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We Watched JOKER For The First Time

[@deathninja16]

The Joker's laugh is based on a real-life medical condition called Pseudobulbar Affect (PBA). PBA is a neurological condition that causes uncontrollable laughing or crying.

[@ryanadams2671]

“He’s always been such a happy boy.” That line ripped my heart out of my chest.

[@dibsdibs3495]

It’s usually caused by things like brain injury, stroke, etc.

[@TheBombasticFatRat]

​@@dibsdibs3495 or traumatic abuse..

[@lupitaservin1994]

@@dibsdibs3495yeah and didn’t he get abused as a young boy? It adds up 😞

[@wet-read]

Yeah... and I felt this was a HORRIBLE thing for any man who would be (the) Joker to have. One of many problems this film has IMO.

[@magnusmagnusson8302]

so many great scenes here, but my fav is the talk with him and murray before he comes on the show,, there is some magical acting there

[@tomc3558]

The sad thing is I'm pretty sure that his condition is a real thing that people can get but I don't know much about it

[@vordt4139]

pseudobulbar disease

[@MiracleUniverse-fg8wb]

6:32 seriously you’ve never ever seen a clown until now?!😮

[@mr.hollywoodsellbotlevel127]

When I get stressed at work or sad I start laughing instead of crying

[@seraffi]

obviously nobody will beat heath ledgers joker. but this movie was fucking amazing. he did so well portraying the mental disorder, and showing how messed up his brain was with delusions etc etc. u can see why he went crazy aswell, with people treating him bad

[@yeomzy]

People really be watching other people watch movies instead of watching it themselves thats wild 😂😂

[@Alte.Kameraden]

This film honestly makes me wish someone would make a prequel film trilogy series for the film Downfall.

[@leelawest5904]

yes the laughing disease it real its caused by eurological issues and it causes uncotrolled laughter in moments of high stress and anxiety

[@primecloud]

thus batman and joker were born that night.

[@rickymayberry9998]

My older brother developed that laughing condition. He took the wrong types of drug that messed up his brain. Sucks but it is real.

[@austindick8459]

Joaquin Phoenix won an Academy Award for Best Actor for his performance in Joker. 🏆

[@dopebeets782]

Please watch the king of comedy, directed by Scorsese and staring De Niro

[@dwaynemcclintock]

Ladder 49 is another good movie Joaquin Phoenix is in.

[@Bleeds98]

This movie was insane in theaters. You could feel how everyone in the room got real tense during the "you get what you fucking deserve" scene. But once it was over and White Rooms started playing the tension lifted and people were looking around at each other all smiles and "holy shit" faces.

[@velocity1852]

This is the only movie I watched twice in theaters because the feelings of the theater were so strong

[@Kayoss13212]

Yeah. In a movie that was mostly centered around buildup and dialogue, everyone in my theater was just waiting for the shoe to drop.

[@sophiecooper1824]

​@@velocity1852i still remember people cheering when he made a smile with his own blood , like Avengers level cheering

[@Thedreamer20015]

I remember a huge gasp when he killed Murray in my theatre and than honestly I was like the only one who laughed when he said Murray’s catchphrase and than the music cuts in but that shit was and is hilarious 😂 true dark humour

[@Jordashian93]

What an electrifying performance by Phoenix ... It's the work of a fearless performer, and the result is an acting masterclass.

[@nsasupporter7557]

Yes definitely, it still baffles me that people don’t think that this is the Joker from Batman… of course it is. What other Joker is there??

[@JuliusNovak_]

​@@nsasupporter7557True but nobody has ever done a comic accurate joker like in this movie they got really close bc Arthur Fleck was a stand up comic before he turned to crime

[@nsasupporter7557]

@@JuliusNovak_ this wasn’t a comic book movie, though. Or it wasn’t supposed to be, anyway

[@Paul-br]

His Oscar win for this was well deserved.

[@JuliusNovak_]

@@nsasupporter7557 It very much so is a comic book movie, although the director did put his own spin on the character it's still the joker from DC like you said

[@Lauckitdown]

That twist with the girl not knowing him got so many people. It's such a well-written film, and the minimal brutality made it so effective. Y'all's reactions to the murders and disturbing nature of it all were fantastic. Loved the discussion at the end, too.

[@wet-read]

Actually, it is not a well written film at all.

[@Lauckitdown]

@@wet-read Actually, let me know when you write a successful screenplay instead of trying to disparage an original film that made almost a billion dollars and won over 100 awards. But, you're right, all those people were wrong, and you clearly know more about writing a film than the guys behind that.

[@wet-read]

@@Lauckitdown I'd like to think I wouldn't write something as bad as Joker. And yeah, you're right: I don't write screenplays. But so what? Am I or anyone else forbidden from analyzing or (gasp!) criticizing a film, in part or in full, just because I/we don't write screenplays? Are people just mindlessly supposed to "eat what's before them"? Ya know, when someone is critical of something I happen to like or think good, I'm usually curious to know the reasons why. If the reasons are good and/or things I haven't thought of, I am capable of rethinking the film and my opinion of it. You don't seem to want to discuss it. Which is fine I guess. But I'm hardly the only person who thinks this way about Joker.

[@Lauckitdown]

@@wet-read Based on this pointless rant and your earlier opinion, no, I don't want to have a discussion with you.

[@daze5491]

​@@wet-readWhy not follow up your statement directly with reasons for it? If you truly wanted to started a discussion why not... Discuss right away? Your initial comment's sole purpose was to illicit a reaction out of people, not to start discussion.

[@TheTreator8]

The fact that when he’s ascending the stairs in the beginning and in such a dark place in his mind, then when he’s descending the stairs (into darkness) he is happy as hell. Very great idea from the director.

[@ryanadams2671]

As someone who had an insanely difficult life and suffered through over 12 long years of intense mental illness with no help and had to figure out how to pull myself out of that extremely dark lonely frustrated place I can honestly say Joaquin Phoenix’s performance was incredible. This movie was something that changed a lot of people’s view on mental illness and made a lot of people uncomfortable because it is subject matter that is never really discussed in mainstream media. It is something that needs to be addressed within our society and stopped being treated as a joke. That is honestly a large reason there are so many violent outbursts and shootings going on. Much like a wild animal when people are backed into a corner like that sometimes the only thing they can do is fight back.

[@Lucifer_morningstar_357]

All that for nothing 🤡

[@juanvargas-qz6vd]

I agree with you

[@Batman-ps4om]

​@@Lucifer_morningstar_357🤡

[@rockymontanamane]

@@Lucifer_morningstar_357go dig x up clown 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@czden]

@@Lucifer_morningstar_357how u a x fan and clowning him? 😭

[@axr7149]

The Joker is one of only 3 movie characters where multiple actors/actresses have won Oscars for it (Heath Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix both won for playing this character). The other 2 characters to do this are Vito Corleone (Marlon Brando for THE GODFATHER and Robert De Niro for GODFATHER PART 2) and Anita (Rita Moreno and Ariana DeBose for the 1961 and 2021 versions of WEST SIDE STORY respectively). Coincidentally, both Ledger and Phoenix competed against each other for Best Actor in 2005 (for BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN and WALK THE LINE respectively) and both lost to Philip Seymour Hoffman (for CAPOTE) that year.

[@nyc_8075]

I heard people actually go kinda insane after playing him

[@danholmesfilm]

Also ironically or whatever, Both Hoffman and Phoenix SHOULD have won for their roles in The Master, but lost undeservedly to Christoph Waltz and DDL who probably deserved it but i'm still bitter lol

[@brinydemon0321]

​@@danholmesfilmNah, DDL gave a generational performance in Lincoln. Maybe PSH should have won for best supporting actor

[@nicolasbaron4506]

Joaquin Phoenix as Joker/Arthur Fleck was dead on. The way he laughs is so genuine to where we feel his pain because of how he’s been treated from the brutal reality of society.

[@ansal2525]

This movie also portrays the detachment politicians have from the people they represent.

[@hgwells1899]

But I'm not sure Thomas Wayne really said any of that or was that much of a douchbag. Like the headlines on the newspapers around him, or the psychiatrist actually saying "nobody gives a shit about people like you," surely it's all from Jokers POV and we shouldn't take any of it literally, in the movie anyway. No doubting in real life politicians couldn't be anymore removed from us, though, but in the movie it's all just the rhetoric of blame that Joker trots out

[@Dark__Thoughts]

@@hgwells1899 It's hard to tell. While it is form Joker's perspective, it doesn't mean it isn't true. From Bruce's perspective his father was this altruistic god figure that was rich but wanted to help everyone, which feels just as skewed. However, the truth of both perspectives is that Gotham is a fucking shithole suffering from social decline and in both perspectives the Joker manages to gather a huge anarchistic following, turning him into this criminal cult figure, which definitely indicates that something is very wrong with the system there. Like, in every depiction of Gotham it seems to be a city full of corruption and classism, so I doubt this is just because it is from Joker's perspective.

[@huangjun_art]

The real laughing disorder is called *The Pseudobulbar Affect.* It's not a mental illness but rather a neurological condition, in some ways comparable to Tourette's Syndrome, being that patients can not control it. And in some cases it's so severe that it causes physical pain, and makes it nearly impossible for people to live a normal life. And for some it's become so bad they've actually taken their own life. It's a horrible condition to have. Watch the making of. Phoenix explains how he studied actual patients with this disorder.

[@wet-read]

I can't believe I don't hear people saying that the Joker having this condition makes no sense. The laughter is supposed to be authentic and not forced, coming from the Joker's deranged sense of humor and such. I suppose, by the end of the film, it gets reigned in some, but still, I literally hated this notion.

[@ShreyDoshi2]

​@@wet-readit was a good edition to the film

[@SinSinny]

@@wet-readthis film is separate from all the other jokers. They made it blatantly clear that this film would be more grounded in reality. It’s really not that big of a deal lol

[@Shockkings0714]

Phoenix is one of the best actors of all time. This performance was amazing

[@300apes]

Javier Bardem would like a word with you

[@Shockkings0714]

@@300apes 1. I said one of 2. Javier isn’t in my top 20

[@300apes]

@@Shockkings0714 Delusional 14 year old weirdo

[@300apes]

@@Shockkings0714 Great way to admit you’re braindead poor kid

[@michaelarias3310]

​@@Shockkings0714Javier is fantastic though. Especially in no country for old men

[@lup7271]

Honestly can relate to him, and a lot of people with mental health issues did, especially how little everyone seems to care, especially in countries without proper safety nets for those with mental illnesses.

[@shainewhite2781]

Nominated for 11 Oscars including Best Picture, but won for Best Actor Joaquin Phoenix and Best Original Score. It was the first DC movie to be nominated in all categories.

[@demianoff]

I think this movie shows a lot why Batman doesn't want to kill Joker. Batman sees him as someone that needs help

[@_ripVanWinkle_]

Still irredeemable

[@nsasupporter7557]

I don’t know why some people don’t think that this is the Joker from Batman… of course it is. There is no other Joker besides the Joker from Batman. There’s also signs that it’s the Batman Joker… Bruce Wayne and his father Thomas were in the movie, it takes place in Gotham

[@4QTRMrCanadian]

true but not the point @@_ripVanWinkle_

[@102-d7i]

Gonna have to disagree cause this “joker” can 100% be seen as a victim but the actual joker who batman faces is just a straight up sadistic maniac

[@nsasupporter7557]

@@102-d7i Batman does face this Joker. It’s the Joker from Batman

[@MasterDirox]

Not only my favorite Joker, but one of my favorite all-time films. There are so many layers to his character here, and so much of it feels real, and somber. It's easier to understand the person he becomes, when you see through his eyes how he got there. Thanks for reacting to it

[@billyhill7630]

agreed

[@nsasupporter7557]

I don’t know why some people don’t think that this is the Joker from Batman, of course it is. There is no other Joker besides the Batman villain

[@Dark__Thoughts]

Ledger is still my favorite Joker but this was my favorite Joker movie / media. Though, I think we didn't see enough of him as actual Joker for me to judge him properly. Most of the movie is about Arthur, not about Joker. I feel Joker is the guy that looks back at him in the mirror after he kills the three douche bags, and the guy that tells the social worker that he didn't even knew if he existed. It's like when he killed Murray, he kinda did kill himself, at least he killed Arthur and then fully embraced his new persona.

[@firecat4529]

16:01 I think in the 'Killing Joke' comic and DC animated movie all the Joker tries to do is to convince Batman that "all it takes is one bad day" for someone to become a "Joker" as well.

[@bigpictureguys8415]

I was in a dark darrkkk place when I saw this in theaters. If you’re in that place reach out and confide in someone. Life does get better. Don’t become what they made you.

[@darktenacity3594]

Sometimes it's not the best to confide in someone else becuz u run the risk of them looking at you as if ur crazy and it'll only make things worse. Speaking from experience

[@bigpictureguys8415]

@@darktenacity3594 what someone else does (or fails to do) has nothing to do with you & shouldn’t weigh on you. That person should’ve showed you compassion in that moment. You did the right thing and should be proud. I’m sorry that happened to you but if you’re ever in that situation again reach out. Hell hit me up if you don’t have anyone else

[@jianclark3016]

Im in such a dark place right now, I'm one lab accident away to becoming a super villain. 😂

[@bigpictureguys8415]

@@jianclark3016 reach out to people close to you man. Maybe seek professional help or go to meetings (depending on what you’re struggling with )

[@CaptainAmercia]

On your question about Joker Origin there's been many takes on the characters origin it's just difficult to say if there true or not as many of them come from the mouth of the Joker himself. The most common story involves him falling into a tank of chemical waste that bleaches his skin white and turns his hair green and lips bright red. The disfigurement drives him insane and thus the Joker is born. Then in 1951 we got "The Man Behind The Red Hood" storyline where Batman describes a villain known as Red Hood who vanished during an encounter at the Ace Chemicals. It's later revealed in the story that the Red Hood was Joker before falling into the tank of chemicals. The Killing Joke from 1988 dives deeper into the origins of the Joker where flashbacks show that Joker was a family man with a wife and kid before he was driven to madness. That he had a job at Ace Chemicals plant before quitting. And for time was a stand up comedian. He reveals that he agreed to help a couple of criminals break into Ace and as a reward they would give him money for his family. They gave Joker a Red Hood to hide his identity but everything went wrong and while inside Ace the police and Batman show up. Hoping to escape, Joker jumps into the nearby lake, not realizing chemicals have been illegally dumped there. Emerging later to see that he now looks like a clown. But of course everyone in this story puts doubts on Joker origin and even he himself remembers his old life differently at times so we can't say for sure what's real or not. A version of this story was also told in the New 52 comic BATMAN: ZERO YEAR but this time featuring the Red Hood Gang lead by Joker with the other members being people who were blackmailed into helping him all wearing Red Hood masks. This leads to Joker once again falling into Chemicals. The New 52 was a reboot of DC post Flashpoint in 2011 so some things were changed around. Then there's parts of his origin that hint at him being apart of the Crime Family known as Jack Napier such as the Batman: Animated Series but the name could be an alias. The Red Hood storyline also featured in the Batman Animated Series as well with Joker being Red Hood and falling into Chemicals at Ace. Its really just everything before the Red Hood storyline that's on the fence. For most renditions of the character the Killing Joke origin is used the most from video games like Arkham Origins to Animated Series etc that exist in there own universes. A really cool take on Joker is White Knight comics that depict a universe where Joker turned sane and using his real name of Jack Napier, seeks to change his public image as a "villain" and save Gotham City from Batman. It's an amazing storyline with spin off comics such as Harley Quinn and Batman Beyond.

[@nsasupporter7557]

I can’t believe that some people don’t think that this is the Joker from Batman, of course it is. What other Joker is there? There are many signs of this being the Joker from Batman… Bruce Wayne and his father Thomas were in the movie, it takes place in Gotham, he becomes evil at the end of the movie. It’s the Joker from Batman

[@k3n12ock]

@@nsasupporter7557 to add on, even though OP made all those points, theres still no REAL backstory to who The Joker really is so people can create their own origins, just like this movie, and again, just as OP stated

[@Starsaber222]

"If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice"

[@nsasupporter7557]

@@k3n12ock well everybody has a backstory, even fictional characters… but with them it’s complicated. Their creators might not have given them a backstory, but there’s gotta be a reason as to why people are the way they are.

[@nsasupporter7557]

@@Starsaber222 … another reason as to how it’s the Batman Joker is that everybody compares this Joker to other Jokers onscreen… they compare Joaquin Phoenix’s performance to Heath Ledger’s and Jack Nicholson’s performance

[@Sentinel3D]

The thing that didn't click with me for a whole year was that just like his mother, Joker had an imagined relationship with a stranger.

[@texascard]

Just realized that 😂

[@MrDoot-hj2ir]

Having both enemies, Batman and Joker, being created at the same time was WILD

[@happyhedgehog6450]

"Dont you have to be funny to be a comedian?" 😂😂😂😂 so brutal man.

[@mickesmanymovies]

Back when I watched this in the cinema, I'm pretty sure the dad sitting next to me, who had brought three eleven year old boys to that screening, had no idea what they were about to see! To the kids credit though, they were dead quiet throughout the whole movie.

[@deathninja16]

he completely ad-libbed punching the time clock off the wall. which is why it was so damn sturdy and not made to come off the wall at all.

[@Irapa7]

The laughing condition is actually real. There is a video where a dude does it and Joaquin used it as a reference!

[@k3n12ock]

Also, the ending isnt quite clear. 23:11 You notice he's back in a mental institution and his social worker is now wearing completely different clothes than she has all movie. There's also small scenes like at 1:53 that dont go with the movie BUT goes very well with the end scenes of him in white and talkin with said social worker... SO ... was this, if not all of it, just in his head????

[@texascard]

That was a different social worker

[@hgwells1899]

While it was a different social worker or psychiatrist, yes I think almost everything we see is Arthurs version. Thomas Waynes words on tv, the wording of the headlines on the newspapers, the scale of rioting and the cheering of the crowd, all just crazy old Arthurs BS, every bit as much as his "girlfriend" or him being given that gun free, for gratis, as a gift... none of it happened as it was shown. To clue us in, we got that early scene with Arthur in the tv audience getting a hug before it was revealed as a fantasy. It had to have been, of course, because it felt odd and too unlikely even as it was happening. Just like much else in the movie. Staging the aftermath of his killing of the psychiatrist like it was some kind of Keystone Cops comedy as The End came up was, again, the final proof that what we were witnessing was Arthur's/Joker's reinterpretation of events

[@Gogogoeth]

From what I've read, his uncontrollable laughter is based on a real condition called pseudobulbar affect. It is a disorder that causes a person to experience uncontrollable episodes of crying, laughing, or other emotional displays that are out of context in their social interactions.

[@wet-read]

I can't believe I don't hear people saying that the Joker having this condition makes no sense. The laughter is supposed to be authentic and not forced, coming from the Joker's deranged sense of humor and such. I suppose, by the end of the film, it gets reigned in some, but still, I literally hated this notion.

[@gtbrannog95]

​@@wet-read That's already been done multiple times. Not saying it's bad for the Joker to be potrayed that way, but the Joker doesn't have to be depicted exactly the same way each time. I'm glad they went for something more realistic and dark in this movie.

[@wraithje]

the joker is an open character, with no real origin leving the creator in control of the movie, every version is different, some more evil than others, but the point is, its not a fixed character@@wet-read

[@wet-read]

@@gtbrannog95 I don't want exactly the same thing every time! I just don't like this particular envisioning of the character.

[@wet-read]

@@wraithje See above.

[@angelfuturejob]

My best friend and I were very depressed one night and I suggested we go see joker just out of the blue. We went to 3 theaters to find 2 seats together because it was all booked. After seeing this movie we felt better I guess it took seeing someone else with worse mental health problems to put us into perspective.

[@Sand420]

I do like this film alot but it's basically a 1970s/1980s Martin Scorsese film. I do love the early 1980s setting that transition period between the late 1970s and early 1980s but it's basically 1980s New York City so I do wish they would've done more with the city. But the time period does help with the visual style and the overall cinematography and colour-grading make this film for me. I'll say that I do prefer this Gotham to what we got in the Nolan films and the DCEU as the time period is much more interesting than how Nolan Gotham was just modern day Chicago. I hope you react to the Tim Burton Batman films there just so stylized and really unique visually not to mention having the best Batman soundtrack to date.

[@wet-read]

Setting the film in the early 80's doesn't do anything noteworthy. It also neglects the ample things that could have been used to tell the story of how Joker became Joker: social media and the Internet in general, plus various economic crises, perhaps references or allusions to presidents or other politicians since then and what they did, etc.

[@moviereviews4life]

Joker in the comics has no definitive origin. The director Todd Phillips has stated he feels this may or may not be Arthur's true story. Joker is known for making up things about his past as he said in The Killing Joke "If I need a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice" It's even suggested at the end that he's telling his story to the woman and is imagining himself as the reason Bruce Wayne's parents were killed. I actually live in the area where some of the film was made (the scene at the theater was actually a courthouse was in Jersey City, some of the other areas were in Newark NJ) The actress's name in Deadpool is Domino, though its not true to the comic as it was race swapped but she did well there. The film is meant to give you dread as this is a heightened look at how the world is for many people. I love how we see Arthur looking sad and beat up walking up those stairs and when he's walking down at the end he's dancing. It's a visual representation of how sad he was trying to be like how the world wanted him and how free he felt when he was no longer sane and coming down from his sanity. I'd love to see more of these character films that have no sequels or are by themselves. Lex Luthor is another one who could really have a story where the audience gets a better idea of how his mind works l because Lex isn't just a bad guy, but complex. Read the comics and you'll see how complex many of these characters are because with James Gunn in charge they will just make them all comedies

[@TTM9691]

Joker is an homage to two Martin Scorsese/Robert De Niro movies: "The King Of Comedy" and "Taxi Driver" (that's why they cast De Niro in this part). Definitely check those out, you'll see immediately everything "Joker" is referencing, the whole story, basically! De Niro is incredible in them, and they're just really good movies. "The King Of Comedy" is one of my faves.

[@Joe-hh8gd]

And Jokers red jacket is a call back to Rupert Pupkin's jacket in King of Comedy.

[@magnusmagnusson8302]

@@Joe-hh8gd also the final scene call back to king of comedy him running from the staff

[@Joe-hh8gd]

@@magnusmagnusson8302 Joaquin didn't run. Hr killed the lady doctor.

[@TTM9691]

(I was being kind calling "homage". "Ripoff" is more like it, lol)

[@XxXDestroyer]

Yeah when I saw this in theater, all I was thinking was Taxi Driver lol.

[@mpzurlino]

At the end, it’s thought that its now years later after the Batman caught him and put him in Arkham. The joke is that his chaos killed Bruce’s parents and gave rise to Batman.

[@gabrielacero8644]

4:25 Her name is Zazie Beeta and her character from Deadpool 2 is Domino

[@loneranterism]

Rare instance when the movie made me really feel for the anti hero. And so well written

[@1dudecrush]

You guys are freakin adorable, for real. Couple goals.

[@CharlesVanNoland]

M'lady and I caught this in the theater for date nite a few years ago. All I can say is that when the movie ended, you could feel the whole vibe in the theater. Everyone had been jarred, supplanted, re-arranged, discombobulated, disoriented. We felt like we'd all been subjected to something very very gnarly. It was like witnessed someone being eviscerated in slow-motion for two hours straight, and credits were rolling. It was one of the most memorable theater-going experiences I've ever had because usually movies round everything up nice and tidy in a pretty little bow for you to feel good when you leave the theater. Not this film. Aside from Joaquin's portrayal of The Joker, that's why this film is special - the way it made us all feel by the end. It felt like it disturbed the slumber of the animal that's deep inside of us all.

[@AdamClebold]

I feel like Mr phoenix's approach paved the way for a solid background for Heath Ledgers Joker.

[@ScottSkynetT800]

Batman and Joker being born at the same time gives me chills 👌👌👌

[@LoveGodWithAllYourMight]

I think he was laughing at the end because he knows Bruce will suffer and he enjoys it

[@bigpictureguys8415]

I was thinking it’s the orphan connection between the two of them.

[@LoveGodWithAllYourMight]

@@bigpictureguys8415 yeah that would make more sense

[@Isaiboi]

Ah yes my favorite movie ever. I hope the sequel is good

[@joell4393]

Based on the trailer it looks really good

[@TheNeonRabbit]

16:53 If you're going to smother someone with a pillow you might want to unhook the oxygen hose up their nose. Ya know, theoretically

[@stefanhuddleston6816]

A brilliant film. There are some points where the film shows you this is all in his mind, his warped view of the world, like his relationship with his neighbor. That makes you question everything else. Did he really confront Thomas Wayne or was that in his mind, that scene supposedly took place near the sinks in a bathroom and the very next scene is him standing motionless next to a sink? Was he even Wyne's kid or was that his mother's delusions? Were all those people at the end worshiping him or did he imagine that while he was being taken to Arkham? Did the attack on the subway go down that way or was that the way he saw it? Everything is form his perspective and so it's all suspect and unreliable.

[@monkeysaur4305]

This movie is an incredible piece of cinema.

[@blackpixels]

Phoenix was On Point with this Performance... after Heath Ledger's Joker in the Dark Knight... I thought how is he going to top that... I was pleasantly surprised... I didn't think he topped Heath's but it was just as Good... with a different take on the Joker Character. I'm glad filmmakers went in this direction... I can't wait for the Sequel... "JOKER 2" - I think Lady Gaga is starring along side Phoenix.

[@markaholicsanonymous677]

This movie poses one of several questions. One of them being Are monsters born? Or does this “society” create them?

[@mr.o6240]

When the Joker kissed the lady on the stage it's inspired by the comic The Dark Knight by Frank Miller when he goes on a talk show and kissed a woman inspired by Dr. Ruth.

[@hoya1178]

Watch The King of Comedy and Taxi Driver instead

[@zumedusa]

Every time the Joker is hallucinating, the clock time is stuck at 11.10, even on the punch card machine.

[@tomcody2203]

Ehm...Zazie Beetz' name in "DEADPOOL" was "DOMINO" ;-) Great reaction to one of the best comic-based movies ever made. As others have said...you now absolutely have to watch Robert de Niro in "TAXI DRIVER"

[@peperino25]

Please try to never cut your reaction to show only movie scenes . *Movie scenes do not work without your reaction.* We want to see your reaction and the scenes of the movie simultaneously. In the worst case scenario, always see your reaction and censor parts of the movie for c0pyright. Show only the movie scenes on full screen are really Really unnecesary .

[@mindsablaze221]

To me the comedy club scene is the most heartbreaking in the film. Only a hallucination in the crowd gently chuckling at your big moment to finally make an impression the normal route trying to fit in with everyone else

[@vmoonlight4962]

That ending scene a line where joker said “you wouldn’t get it” is the director talking (sarcastic) to the type of people in our society who lack compassion or empathy for people like Arthur and Also to the movie critics who amplify the media about it will inspire violence? Blah blah...meh the thing is violence in movie book and song is not the "violence". Critics and media who hate this movie are the people who lack empathy and don't like what they see them-self villain in this movie. the director, writer cast and crew the movie studio executive understand so clearly (more than us) what the root meaning of the movie and its message. most of us do, it's obviously loud and clear. there are still many people who are kind hearted and understanding. In this movie, joker live by these motto, "the power of kindness and compassion and empathy", strong theme in the movie. Also such as "... to smile and put on a happy face, she said i was put here to spread joy and laughters, you are the only one that ever nice to me, i dont know why everyone is so rude, maybe a lil bit of warmth, maybe a hug dad?, everybody just yell and scream at each other, nobody civil anymore... they were just a bunch of kids, i should have left it alone..." Joker was the sweetest soul in full of harsh people in Gotham City. In real life who understand and live by those principles are highly intelligent smart and healthy enough to never go and murder people like why are you so rude lack of kindness and compassion? (It does not work like that) if someone has that level of mental illness, people cant function like joker and could not understand the movie either. REMEMBER its just a movie, this movie comfort the disturb = (mentally struggles poor not just extreme exagerated Joker level illness) and disturb the comfort = wealthy upper class rich people but not all of them duh, the worst of them are rich healthy and poor sick that lack sympathy/compassion/empathy and (It DOES NOT comfort life sentenced criminals, serial killers, mass shooters etc.). life and art are just so confusing. We all are suffering more or less, we all have our boundaries and limits so the point where we stop rooting for Joker is different for different people. This one is kind and intelligent people favorite movie. if you don't like this movie (that says a lot about you haha) I am worried about our society in the future. To "THEM" you wouldn't get it

[@charlescates5703]

Should definitely check out "Her" with Joaquin Phoenix. Great movie.

[@bigpictureguys8415]

Not sure that’s “their type of movie”. Subtle movies with nuance & complex emotions don’t seem like their forte

[@jynxce]

Loved the open ended nature of the this movie. One tragedy is that he killed his mother when her history with Thomas Wayne was buried in truth. He may have been abused by his mother's boyfriend, but not necessarily disqualifying what happened before. Wayne could've easily setup forged, abortion paperwork, and had her committed to Arkham to cover up any scandals of infidelity that could've ruined his future political asperations. Also, there's little bits of information like the photo with his initials T.W. in one scene. The movie offers a lot for those who do multiple watchings.

[@shakawhenthewallsfell8570]

I was skeptical of this movie at first. Trying to follow up the powerhouse that was Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker in The Dark Night, felt like a disservice to the legend, but boy was I pleasantly surprised. Joaquin Phoenix nailed the role.

[@bt3519]

Joker doesn't have 1 official original origin story. So basically anyone can make up what they want it to be. Which is what this movie did. Personally, I think Ledgers Joker is still the best because I prefer not actually knowing what his backstory is. Makes him more scary. But this was still a great movie.

[@cjmac1777]

When he killed Murray his true laugh finally came out

[@НикитаСергеевич-м2ц]

One of the best moments of my movie watching experience in the cinema was when the white room started playing. Catharsis as it is

[@SimplyDarknes]

Just wait, if you think Joaquin Phoenix was a great dark joker, Lady Gaga is his Harley Quinn in the next one. I didn't like her in AHS, but I think she'll kill it next to him.

[@k3n12ock]

Such a good movie and totally different take on who The Joker is

[@TheLOUIELOPEZ]

Great reaction, but I will have to say that your rating was a bit low. I rate this movie a 9.5, great acting and the Joker is such an iconic character. I would say he is the most known villain of the comic book world. Such a great character! Great reactions as always!

[@Gunnar001]

7:25 Nope. The shooting was totally justified. How do you know they weren’t trying to kill him? How do you know he wouldn’t end up being permanently crippled for the rest of his life if they continued to stomp and kick him? A group of people have you on the ground and are actively assaulting you, you have every right to defend yourself and use a gun to stop them. It only became unjustified once Arthur chased the last one (who was fleeing at that point) and shot him dead.

[@BullRadu]

the sad thing is that all of the good things that happen to him in this movie, it's just in his head. mental illness is such a life destroyer...

[@jingleballs9935]

We’ll see in the next movie

[@Chris-o9i6j]

you mispelled poverty

[@raphartman]

"Can you open it from the inside" "I don't know I've never tried" xD this killed me 😀🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@tomesofawesome8041]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I don't get why people are so shocked by this film. Is it a tragic story? Of course it is. But it's also happening to real life people all over the world right now. Honestly, the only reason that any of the 1% or the politicians are still alive at all, is because we've all just gotten too comfortable with bad things happening. If our pioneering ancestors, who first helped create AMERICA 200 years ago were still alive now, every one of those mother f*****s would have had their head cut off and topped on a pig pole right now. We're all just too, "Civilized" to stand up and do what needs to be done. Do I want violence to happen? No. But at this point, I truly think violence is unavoidable. So if it has to happen, why not direct it at those that are actually guilty? The mackivelian puppet masters and their ilk? Just saying.

[@jt_uno1781]

Idk if this has been brought up, but have yall heard the theory that at the end of the movie, we're seeing Arthur maybe 15-17 years in the future so hes full on Joker and has had his fights with Batman, and he's remembering basically what we just watched and he puts together that Thomas and Martha Wayne were killed that night and that's when his crime boss things got started and about 12 years later some guy in a black bat suit is beating every one up, including him. When the doctor asked him what's so funny, that was when he realized that jussssst maybe Batman is Bruce Wayne he doesn't want the fun to end, so his response: "you wouldn't get it"

[@rinslittlesheepling1652]

7:30 "Not killing" Yeah, as if you can't be killed or disabled by being beaten up on the floor by a group of people. There's nothing wrong with shooting at people who assault you. I bet if this was a scene of woman being graped, she would have complitely different opinion on this kind of actions. As many other people who held similar opinions on this scene.

[@4000mack]

"(V) Can you open it from the inside? (S) I don't know, I never tried.". Y'all had me on the floor 😂😂

[@caps_lock_]

After Heath and Joaquin, whoever plays joker in the future is going to have some very big shoes to fill

[@DeRockMedia]

people were saying the same about Jack Nicholson

[@williammccormick984]

The bathroom dance is legendary. It's a perfect scene and being there for the first showing, EVERYONE in that theater was in awe. This was a hell of a special movie.

[@daleunderwood7407]

In reference to the traincar scene, No no no... it's not the victims responsibility or obligation to know or just guess if their attacker that is bludgeoning them is going to kill them or not. That's not how the real world works.

[@brutishwing2.090]

High probability that he is Bruce Wayne's brother, when he's applying paint to his face and looks at the pic on the back the initials are of Thomas Wayne

[@sonnyofox6413]

There’s a handful of Joker origin stories across the multiverse. But they’re still shrouded In a bit of mystery like the possible story of the killer through out Gotham history called the pale man that might be joker. Bit a while since I took a look at that story but still.

[@tacobellalugosi2527]

This is such great FILM . Even if it’s not an “Origin” film of the Joker is a great movie about the journey of a man who was Pushed to far to the point of Madness . And the birth of another Legend the best part to me in the movie is the parallel the night the Joker was born was the same night The Batman was born as well ! It shows that they really are two sides of a coin . Oh and I dig your guys rating system . And yeah this movie is a 8 for me it’s an amazing movie but not perfect . But there is another one one coming and it has Lady GaGa co starring in it

[@Wayhoo]

Joker is still my favorite movie of all time throughout all these years!

[@reppinseattle7974]

16:00 Vince...... You don't know how based you are bruh! I was abused by my mother for years. It got so bad I had a friend who I would run away from home with. It wasn't till I turned 18 that I realized that "friend" never existed.

[@autonomouspublishingincorp8241]

Yes the condition is real, but extremely rare and debilitating. No this is not in line with the comics, as the comics never revealed a backstory to the Joker without casting doubt on the credibility of the same backstory. (Beyond arguably the red hood that is fairly obscure today) There WERE multiple compelling backstories throughout the years that seemed as they would be the real deal, until it was revealed it really wasn't. Even one comic in which Batman really does discover the truth, which is never revealed to the reader, other than that there were actually 3 Jokers, and whatever it was Batman learned, it disturbed and confused him. Even the Joker himself never seemed clear as to his own origin story. The Joker said it best: "Sometimes I remember it one way, and sometimes I remember it another"

[@Wholesomewebs]

Zazzy wasn’t lucky but Domino. Her power was her luck/good fortune tho. She’s an incredible actress too

[@Supes97]

No that was just made up, i never read any comic where Joker is Bruce's step-brother... Even though there are many interpetations of his origin story but the main one from the 2011 reboot is him having a really bad childhool into growing to be a gang leader called Red Hood One... When he fought Batman he was ultimately thrown into a chemical tank which bleached his skin and turned his hair to that dark green colour.

[@lorinczbarat]

Just a few thoughts: a crazy person never ever will make an adoptation procedure through, and his mother have never mentioned that Wayne is his father and that fact is against her profile.... think about it.

[@jonathanwelchbmnc7615]

On the subject of the 3 guys beating up Arthur… it’s 100% legal to use deadly force to defend yourself in that situation. He did nothing wrong… until he followed the last guy and gunned him down.

[@jingleballs9935]

Idk I like your reactions to dark and serious films more. It’s great how immersed y’all be sometimes😂

[@AdamClebold]

Yes. It is a real thing. "Pathological Laugher." Is what it's called. It's a coping mechanism. It's as involuntary as a cough or hiccup.

[@jonathonsmith8871]

It’s actually called pseudobulbar affect

[@joshuacampbell7493]

Can't wait for the sequel. Because Lady Gaga will play as Joker's girlfriend Harley Quinn.

[@georgenelawson9917]

Hilarious awesome movie! Laughing every time he's laughing! Its all so funny and crazy! And so much chaos lol

[@dontemanning9203]

Thank goodness you saw this! Idk why everyone reacted to the trailer but not the movie

[@kissmy_butt1302]

The brilliance of this movie is it gives you a believable Joker in the real world and ties it well into the Batman origin. I consider the following the best representations of the Joker and they are all different version but excellent. Caeser Romero in the Batman tv show. Very campy but all the villains were great. Burgess Meredith, of Rocky fame, as the Penguin and Frank Gorshin as The Riddler. Jack Nicholson fit perfectly for Tim Burton's Batman, though he dies in the end. Heather Ledger and Joaquin Phoenix need no explanation.

[@jbomber4416]

joker was in the first suicide squad too i recommend both suicide squads even tho most dont like the first one i prefer it. also this film is completely original has no comic links at all and is basically just a none dc film using some basic character ideas for joker and other characters like waynes