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This week, we're talking about how to make Wilderness Exploration REALLY FUN, why it's not fun enough in 5e right now, and what we're doing both in Weird Wastelands and at any table to make it better. Our Kickstarter for Worlds of Web DM: Weird Wastelands is LIVE NOW! Check it out here: www.kickstarter.com/projects/...
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0:00 Introduction
1:39 What’s wrong with wilderness exploration?
3:27 The “story” of wilderness survival
8:12 Resource Tracking - easing the burden of managing resources: time, food, water, shelter
16:55 Mechanics - simple procedures with clear stakes
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@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for watching and for your support on Weird Wastelands, y'all! We LOVE the Web DM community! To learn more about the project, click here: www.kickstarter.com/projects/webdm/worlds-of-web-dm-weird-wastelands?ref=1getph
@AKNeal81
@AKNeal81 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to see some good cross community support! You guys should get in touch with fellow Dnd KZbinr AJ Pickett who is also running a Kickstarter right now that would pair wonderfully with your book: Silicone maps, character sheets, and combat initiative trackers!
@timkramar9729
@timkramar9729 2 жыл бұрын
I'm eagerly awaiting its arrival.
@SteelShad0w_
@SteelShad0w_ 3 жыл бұрын
It might just be screen glare, but Pruitt getting a faint purple tint on his glasses looks really rad actually 😎
@bazzfromthebackground3696
@bazzfromthebackground3696 2 жыл бұрын
Matches his shirt.
@ScabiousGarde
@ScabiousGarde 3 жыл бұрын
Literally doing DnD in an hour and the second part is a lot of wilderness, my phone notification popped up with this video, what kismet!
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Have a great game!
@jacobdavis6604
@jacobdavis6604 3 жыл бұрын
For those unaware, "kismet" is a word of supposedly Turkish origin that means 'fate' or 'destiny' (at least if I understand Merriam-Webster correctly).
@danielpayne1597
@danielpayne1597 2 жыл бұрын
I love the resource rolling discussed in this vid! Absolutely using that. Helps make resources valuable and add realism without bogging the game down into Accounting 101.
@razorboy251
@razorboy251 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Forbidden Lands did a really good job with creating ratings for supplies and making them matter for wilderness exploration and travel. Dungeon World's Perilous Wilds supplement also did something similar (though I haven't tried it myself yet). Five Torches Deep also does a good job of abstracting supplies, although they do so with supply points (that you can spend in the middle of exploration on things like rations, rope, etc.) rather than with a rating or a target number that you have to roll.
@jakynth
@jakynth 3 жыл бұрын
Just popped in to feed the algorithm and say you guys are amazing!! I'll listen to the patron version later on.
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Spencer!
@greylithwolf
@greylithwolf 3 жыл бұрын
They have absolutely top tier DnD advice. Web DM and Matt Coville are like the holy trinity of DM advice on KZbin, IMO.
@jakynth
@jakynth 3 жыл бұрын
@@greylithwolf Oh I completely agree, I only wish that Matt put out content as regularly as he used to. Totally stoked for this Weird Wastelands book though! Bye Money 👋
@holdengraham6945
@holdengraham6945 3 жыл бұрын
I always have your episodes playing while I prep my sessions for good ideas. Keep rocking 🤘
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Holden!
@shamuswilliams
@shamuswilliams 3 жыл бұрын
I can't count the number of times I've read a post or subthread online where the DM or player states they detest counting anything - not just food and water. Ammunition is hand-waved, encumbrance is ignored unless it's absurd, and even cost of living expenses are deemed "not fun." People say things like, "I'm not an accountant," or, "I play games to get away from worrying about that sort of thing," or, "Heroes don't run out of arrows." I find all those paths unsatisfying. Glossing over resource management removes a significant challenge of the game. Those who ignore it are missing out on a satisfying, rewarding aspect of the game that enhances play. I'm glad to hear there's a resource on the way to bring detail to this lost pillar of the game.
@theosophicalwatermelons8181
@theosophicalwatermelons8181 3 жыл бұрын
I've been running a DCC campaign, with travel rules borrowed from Oregon Trail. Running it has probably been the best TTRPG experience I've had.
@Leivve
@Leivve 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to introduce things like water, to your exploration. Remember GMs, it only cost 15 GP to buy a donkey, barrel, and packsaddle which will carry 40 gallons of water (10 days of water for 4 party members).
@laoxep
@laoxep 3 жыл бұрын
And the mule/donkey/horse? What about it¨s water? They drink more than humanoids.
@Leivve
@Leivve 3 жыл бұрын
@@laoxep get a second one if your going the full 10 days. Otherwise the barrel of water will cover you for the few days it takes to reach the next water source where you can refill it.
@CitanulsPumpkin
@CitanulsPumpkin 3 жыл бұрын
@@laoxep that is more or less the point. People complain about not having anything to spend gold on. Look back at older editions of the game and you quickly find that many groups spent their gold on caravans of npcs. Why trudge through the wilderness in an easily attacked 3 man group? It's so much easier to spend 1% of your profits from the last dungeon to hire 30 henchmen and townspeople to carry supplies, tend beasts of burden, look after the 12 guard dogs keeping watch at night, and carry torches on the way into the dungeon and treasure on the way out.
@GiblixStudio
@GiblixStudio 3 жыл бұрын
uhu and how would you that when you hit some narrow hunter's trail or other obstruction horses and donkey's can't go past? my players had to make decisions and abandon a lot of stuff along the way. so that donkey and barrel might be good in theory, but impractical when actually going out in the wilds. good luck climbing that mountain with a donkey. or the age old entering a dungeon. tying the horses and such to a tree. then when the heroes are in the dungeon for days... they come out and find the animals gone or killed and eaten.
@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself
@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself Жыл бұрын
@@GiblixStudio Oh no, you mean the players might have to make tough tactical decisions sometimes? Sounds dreadful. Just line up the goblins for fireball, sigh from boredom, and move on to the next non-challenge.
@lobsterchow3898
@lobsterchow3898 3 жыл бұрын
I'm running a game right now where I want wilderness exploration to be a major component and I found this very inspiring! Went ahead and snagged the book and the DM screen for Wild Wastelands as well! Big fan of your guys' stuff.
@Aaronb1215
@Aaronb1215 2 жыл бұрын
The illusion of you being in the same room together is good enough that I feel deeply uncomfortable seeing you never make eye contact for even a moment.
@arnovriends5873
@arnovriends5873 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree that in high fantasy games like Pathfinder and 5E D&D it really is annoying that with a special ability or two and a 'ranger-spel" 90% of all wilderness challenges are just wiped of the table, especially when playing a ranger type character or maybe the opposite; a bunch of clueless city-slickers in the wild is an adventure in itself.To ditch that is ditching the very essence of adventure itself! It's all about the journey not the destination!😃 Just deal with exhaustion, hunger, cold, navigation, poisonous plants, crossing swollen rivers, scaling rock-faces, tracking, hunting, building shelters,fires and traps, using secret ranger and Druid signs and finally be a proper ranger and/or Elf and keep your party alive and teach your partymembers to travel light and not haul all that shit.Hell Dm give that massive pile of gold you'll have to carry through desert, mountains or jungle in a realistic way; it'll be the bread and butter for one of your best and most worthwhile adventures not in the least because everybody will be able to relate better and quickly be submersed in the greatest teacher humanity ever had ; MOTHER NATURE AKA THAT 💚GREEN HELL💚
@OgieSifter
@OgieSifter 3 жыл бұрын
Man it would be sick to see some extra resources for alchemical builds, I love how xanathar had cool kits for tools and crafting potions and items. Wasteland or frontier based infusions would be dope. Love the idea of your techno wizard. Thaumaturgical spell casting in a magical wastelamd is always sick
@jcmartin1978
@jcmartin1978 3 жыл бұрын
Here’s what I love about this channel. You guys have stayed true to your approach for the last five years at the cost of a few subs. I’m sure you guys know all of the little click bait tricks but you don’t use them. You guys approach every topic very differently from most other KZbinrs in that you stay with high level concepts instead digging into the crunch. Its a nice contrast from most other channels, although I enjoy some of those channels too. I’m really glad to still have you guys. Good luck on your Kickstarter-- I’m going to back it on payday
@sensur1
@sensur1 2 жыл бұрын
I have developed a little system that the groups consumption of rations is determined by a 1d4 die. I also had three "paces" the group can travel in. "Slow" gives -1 to the 1d4 consumption die. "Normal" gives no modifiers and "Fast" gives +1 in friendly terrain and +2 in tough terrain. Tied together with the Scout role that has the "Forage" ability and the Cook role with the "Cooking" ability that also has their outcomes determined by die with modifiers, I think its abstract enough with some randomness that keeps the pacing going but they still have to worry about rationing without becoming an accountant.
@axelz4316
@axelz4316 3 жыл бұрын
Goodness gracious, you guys get me so excited to DM every time. Love your work.
@Paul-tl4cn
@Paul-tl4cn 2 жыл бұрын
My group revamped foraging and some problematic spells (goodberry, create food and water, etc.) and we now have much more fun with exploration!
@maxmusterspace6037
@maxmusterspace6037 3 жыл бұрын
"I don't want to remove even more from the game". Ahh. So true! I love the idea to just view the spells from a different angle. Introduce complications to those spells. Btw: I modified my resting rules a bit and they seem to put a reign on some of those spells too. 1: Short-Rests are about 10-15 minutes long. 2: I use the slow healing rules from the DMG. So you use hit dice on your long rests to heal. 3: On a long rest you only get back half your spell slots and hit dice (rounded down). 3a: Exception are Warlock spells and features like breath weapon etc. 3b: I might introduce a option to convert Inspiration into a single hit dice (not sure about vice versa). Now the PCs have to be a bit more mindful about spell use. Create Food & Water, Good-berries etc. are now way more expensive. Maybe if they eat to much good-berries still - they have to save or lose a hit die for that day. I am very interested in the resource die mechanic. Sounds really promising.
@garygoucher4739
@garygoucher4739 3 жыл бұрын
When you talked about Goodberries and magical food, it reminded of the Potion Miscibililty (sp?) table from 1e AD&D and how drinking multiple potions could have some unpredictable and extreme effects. I love your way of thinking about it. Going to back your kickstarter now. March 2022 can't come soon enough.
@kid14346
@kid14346 3 жыл бұрын
Ah this explains why you mentioned Lone Survivor's Guide to Bushcraft. You guys were making your own survivor book!
@natejoseph4121
@natejoseph4121 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are great. I wish I could keep your ideas in my head when I'm rushing to keep up with my players at the table
@sergiocerina7876
@sergiocerina7876 3 жыл бұрын
Early birds where u aaaat
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
We're here!
@kennedymiyamoto4314
@kennedymiyamoto4314 3 жыл бұрын
We are here!
@Judge_Dredd_
@Judge_Dredd_ 3 жыл бұрын
Here 🖐
@Grinnar
@Grinnar 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man. I just got home from a long walk. Thanks guys!
@TheSceptileNinja
@TheSceptileNinja 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so beyond excited for this book, it seems like exactly what I've been looking for! The fact that it comes from WebDM is gravy! Thanks guys!
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384
@twilightgardenspresentatio6384 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for touching on Magic food
@kennyw7033
@kennyw7033 3 жыл бұрын
I plan to use the guide for a arc in my Ebberon campaign in the mourn land. I'm excited.
@pineapplefarmer7352
@pineapplefarmer7352 2 жыл бұрын
This is great advice! Love these dudes' personality and outlook too, definitely subscribing for more.
@kurtoogle4576
@kurtoogle4576 3 жыл бұрын
I immediately backed this. I love your ideas and am eager to see them in print!
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@marder111
@marder111 3 жыл бұрын
Backed this so hard. This seems right up my alley, and not in the Blackadder sense. Now the only problem is how the hell do I stay patient for 8 friggin' months?
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support!
@sergiocerina7876
@sergiocerina7876 3 жыл бұрын
I know riiight
@frontierwriting1718
@frontierwriting1718 3 жыл бұрын
One point about the eagles and LOTR, the Eye of Sauron was in place for a reason. One doesn't just soar into Mordor.
@andrewdiaz3529
@andrewdiaz3529 3 жыл бұрын
Also, all the lands were crumbling and about to tear each other and themselves apart. If Eagle Rush worked, which it probably wouldn't have, the world's still broken and heading to a dozen wars.
@KyokushinFighter229
@KyokushinFighter229 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim and Pruitt, I've commented on this before, but I'm currently running a wilderness exploration hex crawl and your videos have been instrumental. What you describe about players becoming deeply attached to their characters in these types of campaigns rings so true, at least for us. Our last session's conflict was nothing more than having to cross a river, but it was 300 ft wide and they're only level 3s... it ended up being quite the challenge and they really had to pull together. Looking forward to your book, keep up the great work!
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Great feedback, thank you! Glad you're having the same experience as we have, it's incredible when it fires on all cylinders
@YUmailME
@YUmailME 3 жыл бұрын
God I am so thrilled to hear more about the project - every time I hear more I get more enthralled in having it and you expansion on exploration rules
@sandpaper
@sandpaper 3 жыл бұрын
You should check out Forbidden Lands. Its seems like its the source for a lot of the rules that are being referenced. I've implemented a lot of the lessons learned from FL and other Year Zero Engine games by Free League in lots of other RPGs
@dirigoallagash3464
@dirigoallagash3464 3 жыл бұрын
@@sandpaper I just got FL like a day before this vid dropped (just watching now) and for a sec I thought I was hearing a FL review. lol I backed early because I like the idea of supporting WDM but I doubt I'll use the book. Will just play FL(which I am loving!) and not deal with 5e bloat.
@SmolAnarchy
@SmolAnarchy Жыл бұрын
Something on exploring, as I've done that in my youth. Are you exploring in an area that has been explorer before? Or going from one place to another that people already had gone before. We are a social species, and we require the survival of more people to keep our species alive. That's how we survive, and we keep doing so, specially in a setting like D&D, we would share knowledge of such things for free, it's both our nature and instinct for surviving. Now, if they are going into an unexplored area, then the safety thing to do with rations is to take either a lot more or turn back once half the rations have disappeared and there is no way to acquire food in the wild. I explored caves, explored mountains and forests, swamps, deserts and so on. It was a fun activity back then, there are rules for safety though even back then since it was just me, my siblings and my mother.
@heathenwizard
@heathenwizard 3 жыл бұрын
The lack of really straightforward and simple wilderness rules, and the fact that exploration is a pillar of the game that some classes can just ignore, is in my opinion the great flaw of an otherwise pretty good version of DnD. Glad to see you all have addressed it
@Exisist5151
@Exisist5151 2 жыл бұрын
You know what the weirdest thing is, in the playtest there was really straightforward survival rules all in the same location. Furthermore, it has examples of how survival in a campaign would be run. I don’t have a clue why they wouldn’t include these rules in the DMG because their work had already been done!
@Draeckon
@Draeckon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Exisist5151 It could have been a matter of space. They may have cut it out out of concern for keeping the page count to a certain number and the text flow/structure straight.
@Exisist5151
@Exisist5151 2 жыл бұрын
@@Draeckon Maybe, but still, it’s much more worth it to me and I’m pretty sure most other consumers of the DMG, for it to have the full set of rules rather than pieces of it, even if it might break the flow a bit.
@kyubii972
@kyubii972 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to say not only was I able to back your Kickstarter buuuut ... I'm also starting two new campaigns just finished the map and I'm dropping the hex grid on top today. As always gentlemen your timing is impeccable and I wish you good luck on all your future endeavors.
@pitanguirj
@pitanguirj 3 жыл бұрын
Tx for the show, guys.
@FluffyCookeZz
@FluffyCookeZz 3 жыл бұрын
Good idea to put out this video. Definitely convinced me to back the kickstarter.
@cups7987
@cups7987 3 жыл бұрын
Excited for this my dudes.
@scootergsp
@scootergsp 2 ай бұрын
Love the Consumable Resource dice mechanic. Will be adding that to my games in the future
@EmperorJinx151
@EmperorJinx151 3 жыл бұрын
I missed watching you guys. Always so interesting and informative. I love 5E.
@christopheroneill77
@christopheroneill77 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! looking forward to the book nice job with an abstraction that compacts a normally overlooked aspect of fantasy roleplay.
@dankmemes9942
@dankmemes9942 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the release of this book guys! It sounds like it will be great for my own game
@zero11010
@zero11010 2 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of a hybrid approach. Leave trivial things as meaningless (food and ammo). Set aside time in the adventuring day for minor foraging and fishing, arrow and bolt making. Let there be a chance for food to spoil or a quiver to accidentally dump out, and the consequences of that. I see ammo as almost punishment for a ranged character as you don’t really ever run out of longsword. Some of that can be attributed to the comparative safety inherent with attacking from a distance.
@ttprophet
@ttprophet 3 жыл бұрын
In the spirit of making wilderness fun. I enjoy equipment management, but i dislike the 5e system for it. i often exchange weight management for a slot system. You freely carry a belt with a main and off-hand sheath, 20/20 ammo pouch (or quiver), a 30/30 component pouch, a 5/5 water skin for short rest hit dice, a 1/1 ration pocket for long rests, and a tool kit satchel (tools can be replaced with larger items such as hunting trap, 10' retractable pole, or door ram, etc.) Additionally, your STR score x2 is your carry weight slots. backpacks and mounts and carts significantly add to the carry slot number for the party, but you risk losing it all if you go into a vertically challenging terrain without a game plan to lift a pack mule 50 feet up a rock wall (make block & tackle great again lol) also, make rangers great again, so they can navigate your pushcart full of mined copper ore thru the cave and out again. but i digress. i give out loot like crazy, but they all have random die slot mechanics for the sizes they take up in carry weight. When there is an hour worth of travel between each section of a "dungeon" (to far to backtrack) and too much to carry, players have to fomo to leave something behind to pick up something new. which mean they may drop some extra torches or rope to grab more loot. Not even myself as the DM knows what its value yet, as the dice decide this as well. they are often caked in mud, fossilized, or rusted (very nondescript) When the party long rests, what I do is "perceived" value. the higher you roll, the better % chances you have of having something of great worth. make a roll to identify the item, then note that number next to the item. if you fail the percentile roll it is still mundanely valued for gp equal to the amount of your roll. Choose one: Perception + weight= % chance of being highly valuable to a merchant. Arcana + weight = % chance of being enchanted History+ weight= % chance of being valued by a specialist/collector who might trade up with rare items. Investigation + weight = % chance of being something very useful. particularly something clutch to the mission. Religion + weight = % chance of yielding a blessing, bane, or augury. Nature + weight = % chance of gaining experience or boon
@SomoneTookMyName
@SomoneTookMyName 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the finished product. I have to say that there a lot of quality of life features that are way to easy for the players to get ahold of in D&D. One of my biggest pet peeves is anything that lets players fast travel of bypass areas with ease. Another one is all of the magical huts and whatnot that let players rest without the burden of having to worry about getting attacked during the night. Though this has not been so much of an issue in this campaign, my last one it was. Honestly, there will be various things that will simply not be making it into my next game. It just kills great opportunities within the game.
@CitanulsPumpkin
@CitanulsPumpkin 3 жыл бұрын
One method to limit some of the ease of use and fast travel stuff is to just alter the thematics and descriptions then have your players roleplay through the changes you made. For example, Goodberry. Don't change anything about the mechanics of the spell or limit/ban the use of it. They can cast goodberry all they want. But like Jim said in this and a few other recent videos, magic food is the worst thing you can put in your body. So every time their teeth piece the skin of a goodberry tell your players they feel like they're being waterboarded with lemonade. It also helps to play the adrenaline shot scene from Pulp Fiction and tell them "Yeah, that's what it looks like whenever you cast revivify, or use magic, potions, or goodberry to get back up while making death saves."
@dssdfdgfgfgf
@dssdfdgfgfgf 3 жыл бұрын
I need to punch up on my wilderness exploration, so this video is a godsend. Also, I can't believe how well the Kickstarter is doing! You guys are great.
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rene! Glad to help
@DrVikingrMD
@DrVikingrMD 3 жыл бұрын
Very excited by this video. I definitely want to run some hexploration asap.
@jayteepodcast
@jayteepodcast 3 жыл бұрын
I'm geeked for this book !
@lukesalter9600
@lukesalter9600 3 жыл бұрын
Let’s go! More one shots to write for beach trips!
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Woot!
@gabrielsaba2965
@gabrielsaba2965 3 жыл бұрын
Super excited for your book!!
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@DougVehovec
@DougVehovec 3 жыл бұрын
I really dig the resource abstraction die mechanic concept. Particularly with ammo it smoothes the disconnect with feeling like you ought to carry inordinate amounts of ammo. In game terms it makes sense but narratively speaking who would even imagine they might need 200+ arrows between excursions
@jasminebebe3455
@jasminebebe3455 3 жыл бұрын
I carry more than that many rounds when I am in country fighting for America... Why does that number sound weird to you???
@DougVehovec
@DougVehovec 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasminebebe3455 200 bullets vs. 200 arrows? idk how to answer your question, it just seems unusual to imagine a fantasy adventurer expecting they might need that many at a stretch. I'm not saying it's unprecedented in real life though.
@jasminebebe3455
@jasminebebe3455 3 жыл бұрын
@@DougVehovec Not saying you would have them all on your person but possibly in a pack or a horse or a cart.
@geoffdewitt6845
@geoffdewitt6845 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! I've got an idea for several campaigns that could benefit from these ideas!!!
@thealchemistsapothecary469
@thealchemistsapothecary469 3 жыл бұрын
Okay so I just went to your site to look at the book and I want to say that like what I see and I'm considering picking up a copy for myself. I'm especially excited for the wilderness adventure portion, which is something the community really needs. I'm not going to lie when I saw the orc casting a spell I thought she was using a guitar as a casting focus. That might not end up in the book, but the energy is there. I’m already thinking about how to do a magic based mad max fury road campaign.
@gamingat3099
@gamingat3099 Жыл бұрын
AHHHHH I NEED THIS BOOK IN MY LIFE!
@bronsonkim6652
@bronsonkim6652 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always craving more content for this
@CaseyWilkesmusic
@CaseyWilkesmusic 8 ай бұрын
I had a player play an abhorrent mind sorcerer and take the navigation feat. On one hand, we lost the ability to get lost…but on the other hand, each time we navigate I have an in game reason to move ahead a bit as well as give them a chance to narrate how they lead the party through the uncharted areas.
@scottburns4458
@scottburns4458 3 жыл бұрын
I love a gritty game with survival mode so looking forward to seeing your book for this Excellent video as always guys Thank you
@sandpaper
@sandpaper 3 жыл бұрын
You should check out Forbidden Lands. Its seems like its the source for a lot of the rules that are being referenced. I've implemented a lot of the lessons learned from FL and other Year Zero Engine games by Free League in lots of other RPGs
@LuvLikeTruck
@LuvLikeTruck 3 жыл бұрын
@23:45 it's what plants crave
@KingofBlades113
@KingofBlades113 3 жыл бұрын
This video really speaks to me as I've been playing both Pathfinder Kingmaker and Assassin's Creed Odyssey where wilderness exploration is an important part of the games
@zenith110
@zenith110 3 жыл бұрын
All fantastic, I just wish it were out sooner because I need these rules now xD
@punkasaurian3055
@punkasaurian3055 3 жыл бұрын
I picked up rime of the frost maiden a while ago but I was still a bit lost for how to run the exploration in the setting. I think this book could be a big help.
@ttprophet
@ttprophet 3 жыл бұрын
22:00 is good stuff. for more veteran tables, the burden should be a part of the journey. one thing I do is require generalized "components" to cast a spell but are consumed. Similar to how sourcery was explained in the witcher series. something must give and something must take. this makes monster hunting a more meaningful journey. Spell focus merely negate cast fail chance, but anything with component feature must have something to consume. Base 3 components down into a +1 component to make higher spell attk and save DC, or kill a high CR monster to collect high +1 or +2 compenents. "For sure we could sneak around these trash mob goblins, it's not worth our time, but we could use the easy kills for some goblins toenails, since my component pouch is getting low. and we can sell the rest to the local alchemist, or, i might can brew a poison with it, or make a scroll of stinking cloud." See? the burden provides motive. it makes the story pace out that much easier when players are focused on being optimized verses being brave to push on. In this way, you don't need to write countless plot beats. The necessity to survive will make for a good narrative as you work your way towards a singular easy to remember and highly motivated plot beat.
@kevinm3428
@kevinm3428 3 жыл бұрын
I give rangers Advantage on Survival rolls for navigating and foraging, instead of automatic success.
@GradientScarab
@GradientScarab 3 жыл бұрын
I straight up give them expertise in their favored terrain.
@CitanulsPumpkin
@CitanulsPumpkin 3 жыл бұрын
I let Rangers keep deft explorer from Tasha's, but favored foe/enemy are replaced with favored mana. I took the 5 colors of mana from magic the gathering, plus colorless, and let rangers pick one color at 1, 6, and 14. Creature types, races, backgrounds, classes, and terrain types are all mapped to one of the 6 color options. Players deal an extra 1d6 on 1 or 2 attacks a turn if the color identity of the creature they hit matches one of their colors. They also get one or two languages common to their color, and advantage on all Dex, Int, and Wis checks made in terrains of their color or while dealing with creatures/cultures tied to their color.
@Wimikk
@Wimikk 3 жыл бұрын
Been wanting to run an exploration/survival game for so long. Really excited to see this is going to be in the book
@sandpaper
@sandpaper 3 жыл бұрын
You should check out Forbidden Lands. Its seems like its the source for a lot of the rules that are being referenced. I've implemented a lot of the lessons learned from FL and other Year Zero Engine games by Free League in lots of other RPGs
@tyleremery7088
@tyleremery7088 3 жыл бұрын
For a long time I've loved the idea of abstracting resources such as rations, torches, ammunition, etc. with decreasing resource dice. It simplifies the bookkeeping but doesn't completely remove it.
@Pandaemoni
@Pandaemoni 3 жыл бұрын
Backed...and oh, if only I could have this NOW! Even just the sweet, sweet flask.
@whoismyult
@whoismyult 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos...definitely the most insightful and thoughtful among your peers. This is aside from the main topic of this video, but I just wanted to throw in a different perspective concerning ammunition. Yes it's dumb for a PC to carry hundreds of arrows, but I would question how a PC could find that many arrows. It is actually difficult to make arrows by hand that fire correctly. I think the DM has the freedom within 5e to make ammunition harder to come by...scarce, expensive, and only from an NPC fletcher or a PC with Woodworking tool proficiency (which is what XGtE suggests, 5 each day, only if the materials are available).
@Dennis-vh8tz
@Dennis-vh8tz 3 жыл бұрын
One of those arrows that "missed" you was stopped by you quiver damaging it an allowing half you arrows to spill out.
@thefallenmonk605
@thefallenmonk605 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so hyped for this book
@darkjack164
@darkjack164 3 жыл бұрын
i made cards, with 12 encounters on them, taking up front and back. labelled for dif types of terrain, then made a card with 12 behaver's. such as hunting, resting, fighting, running etc. combining them to make quite a few dif out comes. and i am making more, so i roll which card i am going to use then. roll on the card then roll the behaviour. Then i am working on my own way of doing the Trailblazer, scout, quartermaster and warden. with degrees of success ranging from, you travel normal time, to asking the players to tell me what is here, such as land marks or maybe dungeons. Yeah, i have fallen in love with the hex crawl, combined with 'normal' storytelling. forbidden lands was my gate way drug for it :)
@andrewhalverson6974
@andrewhalverson6974 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for your book. Survival is a sorely missed part in woc content.
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@Connor-kh8sh
@Connor-kh8sh Жыл бұрын
Just started reading wheel of time and wow do they really sell you on the character building of travel. My first big fantasy book and yeah they spend a lot more time moving and experiencing adventure on the road than much else.
@jeofickles2771
@jeofickles2771 3 жыл бұрын
I've been dying for this video
@G_BLASTER
@G_BLASTER 3 жыл бұрын
Backed the KS today, mostly due to curiosity about the new Psion class and because I'm a complete RPG book freak.
@Kevlar-78
@Kevlar-78 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many class features / options / skills that never really get used if you skip the journey. No matter the game system. Clerics create food and water / purify water , ranger abilities etc…. The travel / survival aspect is important. It makes reaching that small settlement and a good nights rest at the inn a reward in itself. The resource tracking streamlining is important though to make it a mini-game.
@lbur7119
@lbur7119 3 жыл бұрын
To give credit where it is due, the usage die concept is from an osr game called The Black Hack
@nintendoloyalist7094
@nintendoloyalist7094 2 жыл бұрын
I never use fast travel even when it's an option in video games anymore. The only exception is in instances where it's the only option; I remember in Ocarina of Time there's a puzzle where adult Link goes to a place and learns the song to warp to that place, and then he has to go back in time so child Link can play the warp song because otherwise the place is inaccessible in the past.
@cistern
@cistern 3 жыл бұрын
I become increasingly more interested in your vision for the game.
@CitanulsPumpkin
@CitanulsPumpkin 3 жыл бұрын
I like goodberry. But I also like the idea of limiting it by making it so your character only wants to eat a goodberry as a last resort. You eat them to fend off starvation or when you're down and making death saves so the ranger puts one berry between your teeth and presses your jaw closed. So far my best idea is to say that goodberry does everything the spell says, but as soon as their teeth pierce the skin of the berry your character feels like they're being water boarded with lemonade.
@jasminebebe3455
@jasminebebe3455 3 жыл бұрын
Your player sacrificed a slot that they could have used for damage or utility so you then punish them twice over... got it.
@baconghoti
@baconghoti 3 жыл бұрын
This makes no sense, the same amount of energy needed to feed the party for a day is the same as that needed to boil water to make them each a cup of tea, once. Caster's have the ability to warp reality, cure the dying, unleash napalm hell, summon high explosives from thin air, animate the dead, precision bend light, but can't make a tasty sammich?
@CitanulsPumpkin
@CitanulsPumpkin 3 жыл бұрын
Okay so apparently I was the only one paying attention to the part of the video where Jim talked about limiting magic food consumption becuase it's literally the worst thing you can put in your body in every myth, fable, and fairytale where magic food comes up. I get that it's hard to pay attention and you guys might not have noticed that this video is talking about very specific homebrew rules to add chellenges back into the exploration pillar of the game. But if you're just here to nitpick over limited use houserules while ignoring the context and content of the video you can kindly piss off. Edit: also, how exactly is turning Goodberry into an easy route to recreating the adrenalin shot scene from Pulp Fiction "punishing the players?" I never even mentioned changing the mechanics of the spell. Just the thematic effects that should be roleplayed through.
@bazzfromthebackground3696
@bazzfromthebackground3696 2 жыл бұрын
What about weapon condition for long journeys. Something like a hit die for your equipment that you can use on a rest for basic maintenance. Each time you use the "repair" you can drop the die level by 1(d10 to d8 to d6...) You wouldn't so much worry about sudden breakage as you would dread watching your equipment slowly deteriorate.
@Pyroproductions10
@Pyroproductions10 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up fellas
@thomaselminster774
@thomaselminster774 3 жыл бұрын
People usually play 5E as if the world between zones of interest is not a zone of interest. It impoverishes the game so much. I myself use the rule 1-2. For every single (story relevant) encounter in a specific location (city/village/fort/lair...) there are 2 related encounters "on the road". Distribution of the story throughout the world, really makes the world alive.
@ehrenmonster5798
@ehrenmonster5798 3 жыл бұрын
so pumped cant w8
@nicolaezenoaga9756
@nicolaezenoaga9756 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@baronaatista
@baronaatista 3 жыл бұрын
Resource die is a really great concept... I'll be buying a pdf of the book for sure, but damn could I use the details of that system right now! Would just love to drop 5-10$ for a pdf of just that bit.... right now.
@ZarHakkar
@ZarHakkar 3 жыл бұрын
Music at 0:34? Also I will say I usually don't buy non-official books, but with what you guys have said about this so far I will have to make an exception to that.
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support! As for the song, it's from a licensing library. Pretty sure it's called retro sci Fi or something like that
@GoldenDragon007
@GoldenDragon007 3 жыл бұрын
I think Breath of the Wild would serve as a good example of how to make exploration just as fun, if not more so, as completing main quest. Obviously it's not a one to one example since BotW is a video game instead of a TTRPG but I think many of the principles still apply.
@saintmatthew956
@saintmatthew956 3 жыл бұрын
Backed, hoping that some of these mechanics can easily slip over to other systems (Cypher, TinyD6, Dungeon World, etc.).
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely should be!
@timkramar9729
@timkramar9729 2 жыл бұрын
Opportunity cost is still a cost! Yes, a spell can take care of it, but you lose out on another spell.
@samchafin4623
@samchafin4623 2 жыл бұрын
How do you recreate the serendipity of stumbling across something you weren't expecting to find?
@lucienderthel338
@lucienderthel338 3 жыл бұрын
if you guys have ever played outbreak undead, what you described for dice for supplies sounds similar to their system
@WebDM
@WebDM 3 жыл бұрын
The guys have not but Emma has and it's fun!! Can think of a few other games with that kind of system as well, it's clean and it works.
@MrDemonfred
@MrDemonfred 3 жыл бұрын
Having to travel and suffer occasionally doing so can even give credence to character bad attitudes or the approach they will take to solving problems after getting to town
@R2-DPOO
@R2-DPOO 3 жыл бұрын
My god! The system me and my friends have been developing makes frequent use of a usage die system! Im never been more happy and so gutted at the same time that someone beat me to the punch.
@R2-DPOO
@R2-DPOO 3 жыл бұрын
Not implemented in the exact same way it seems but certainly interesting how like-minded people come up with similar solutions to problems.
@R2-DPOO
@R2-DPOO 3 жыл бұрын
Also Land of the Freak and Weird Wastelands ! Mad
@Asher.Yodaah
@Asher.Yodaah 3 жыл бұрын
I was not super excited for this book at first. It just seemed to be about a setting I wasn't interested in running. These mechanics have piqued my interest. Not sure if I'll support the Kickstart yet, but I'll definitely take a closer look by the time it goes to print. I have very similar issues with exploration and arrow like resources. These are brilliant fixes and wizards should pay you to include them in a future book.
@themailman9
@themailman9 2 жыл бұрын
I've wanted to run an entirely wilderness/survival campaign with my friends for a while, but I've finally buckled down and started working on it. But I'm unsure how I will keep their attention on a world with not much lore or POI. At the moment, they are a group of adventurers who sailed off with a group of settlers to discover the secrets of a newly discovered land. I plan to have a mysterious kind of magic to the land with tremendous creatures and whatnot and ancient ruins of a forgotten civilization. Any suggestions on how else I should build up the world would be greatly appreciated.
@themailman9
@themailman9 2 жыл бұрын
Side note, I'm not sure how I'd use the History check if none of them know the history of the land they are exploring.
@owensmall4480
@owensmall4480 3 жыл бұрын
I got it alongside Helianas.
@Taylortheslayer
@Taylortheslayer 3 жыл бұрын
could you do a video on lizardfolk?
@CitanulsPumpkin
@CitanulsPumpkin 3 жыл бұрын
They very lightly touched on lizardfolk in their dragonborn video, but I'd be genuinely interested in a longer RP and world building video on all the scaly races and any potential ties they have to the primordial elder dragons that may or may not have ruled any given setting in "The before times. In the long long ago."
@ddickson1167
@ddickson1167 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the movie "News of the World" without Wilderness Adventuring or exploration.
@ZexyObserver
@ZexyObserver Жыл бұрын
It must be cool to play D&D with the creator of Garfield
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