Wednesday: Reinventing A Classic

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Broey Deschanel's Outstanding Tim Burton Video
• The Decline of Tim Burton
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Timestamps
0:00 Intro
1:21 Tim Burton & Expectations
6:25 Breakdown
12:40 The Mystery & The Characters
26:49 The Ending
37:12 Conclusion

[@friendlyspaceninja]

Hey guys. For some reason, this video was automatically posted with the comments off, I don't know why. I'm really sorry about that. UPDATE: Apparently the video wasn't posted with the comments off, the comments just turned off by themselves for no reason a few minutes later. Still no idea why.

[@PixilleFilms]

Yeah that happened to me too. Chances are that it will deactivate every now and then, and u will have to fix it.

[@angelaholmes8888]

You are right dark shadows totally sucked 😬😱

[@cb.on.yt22]

i appreciate you so much

[@Awfullybigadventure0]

The reason that Goody looks so much like Wednesday (or rather, the other way around) is a movie thing as old as time. It’s the “identical grandson” tv trope. For example: Back to the Future. Or in Captain America: The First Avenger, Kenneth Choi plays WWII hero Jim Morita. In Spider-Man: Homecoming, Choi plays Principal Morita, who is Jim's grandson (Jim's medals and a photo of him are displayed in his office.

[@brianpeyton6083]

I saw your community post about the comments before I saw the video in my feed. Wild system.

[@rachelfelix3447]

As a "die-hard Addams family fan" The show was objectively good, I loved Jenna Ortega as Wednesday. However, in an effort to make the show a more relatable teenage drama, they try to create an element of the classic teenage-parent rift that completely misses the point of the Addams family. The original sitcom was created to poke fun at other 50s sitcoms which were riddled with unhappy families, and here was a Weird Goth family that was - actually the picture of a functional family. It would've been a lot more interesting to see Wednesday surrounded by teenagers complaining about their parents and for her to stand out because she actually has a great family life, despite being the goth girl.

[@lanah.5741]

Completely agree. I missed the close-knit family dynamic that the earlier renditions had.

[@owenleal]

True, but at the same time I dont think she has a terrible family life even in this show. She has some understandable insecurities about how her mother excelled and how she didnt know how to fill her shoes, but Morticia never held them over her head and they bonded and reconciled by the end. Despite Wednesday outwardly resenting her parents, they remained a strong family unit who had each other's backs. Meanwhile Bianca's mother is a cultist and Enid's mother is a ham fisted homophobic parent allegory. Not exactly comparable. It is important to note that this Wednesday is substantially older than most Wednesday iterations, so it makes sense that she can't escape some semblance of teenage insecurity.

[@MollyMA13]

I love the way you explained this. That piece of the plot in Wednesday felt weird to me, and you hit the nail right on the head as to why. Very true.

[@hoangvietnguyen949]

@@owenleal i actually think the Animated Movies recently did better at expressing Wednesday’s rebellious phase. And Pugsley, why does he afraid of being bully by normies ? He was literally being torture by his sister throughout childhood (as a form of love). He should be : “joke on u but i’m into this shit” with those bully stuff. Besides from these I really enjoyed the show. Just think it is continuity error and enjoy it 😂

[@anushrees4981]

eh I think it was actually well done. They still have a healthy relationship- they had open communication, it's okay if Wednesday had a slight rift. We saw that such thing happened with gomez and hester too in the movie- sibling rivalry, but they still have a uniqueness in their relationship. Wednesday was always independent and smart, and it was crucial to isolate her in a way to move the story line. They fixed the relationship halfway through anyway.

[@ipuzzletoo]

I think that Enid's character is perfectly written for the role she plays. She is the opposite of Wednesday, hence the over-the-top display of the emotions. Also, she is a young werewolf, basically a PUPPY, and when you think about it this way, everything she does makes perfect sense.

[@Starkiller2725]

She even made puppy sounds, which were honestly, quite authentic.

[@samwiseshanti]

Its been nice for me to read these comments, because I'm a 33 year old man and my brain was constantly telling me that she was a very annoying character, but honestly from the very first episode she was one of my favourites and I just liked her so much. On a more serious, analytical, note- you always need a character who is a bit of an outsider, and in a show where everyone is a dark, dangerous misfit, it makes sense that a sweet, sociable, bubbly teenager girl is a perfect outsider. She very much does belong in a Disney movie for 8 year olds, but the point is that she doesn't belong here. It also makes her quite a tragic character who you care about, because the poor kid just needs a friend and she's in the worst possible place to find that type of connection.

[@Tony_Pesta]

Yeah Enid was actually my favorite, I loved her lol

[@courtneysokal6590]

She was my favourite character! I want one of her snoods lol

[@adamrak7560]

I have realised before her wolf-out that she (and her inner wolf) are probably perfectly fine. It is her nice personality that unintentionally keeps the wolf from coming out.

[@delfi__arts]

The scene of Thing almost dying is so much more powerful thanks to Jenna's acting. It's established prior that Wednesday hasn't cried since she was six, it's the scene she shows most emotion in the entire show

[@eoghannance3820]

Like he said the moment was more emotional than it should be

[@universedonut159]

Yeah it actually had me and my friends on the edge lmao, and Thing's a hand😭 But her emotions just got to us

[@ladydiamond6611]

i also cried

[@sariellakingdom1878]

If you told me two days ago, You will be REALLY invested in a Scene where Think is dying and REALLY scared for him, like VISCERALLY - I would not have believe you. Ortega sells the hell out of that scene, especially with the significance of her tear.

[@RestlessChildcz]

Tyler going from “I’m THE nice guy, but also maybe the tortured manipulated monster” to “lol i actually enjoy killing” was a part of the conclusion that I didn’t need. He didn’t need to be a psycho.

[@YariAzQuran]

I think it would've made a LOT more sense if Ms. Thornhill was CONTROLLING Tyler and that Tyler didn't know or remember anything he did as "Hyde". The writers suddenly turning Tyler into some malevolent dude at the beginning of Ep8 just seemed really cheap and jarring to what they had established with him as a character. It would've been really interesting to see Tyler genuinely believe that he was not Hyde and how at the end he learns that he is in fact Hyde.

[@vinnie-chan]

Are you kidding? The nice guy - is the psycho.

[@mrgtoyz]

Missed opportunity for future seasons if he really was just brainwashed and had no memory of the killings. Then he was then accepted into Nevermore and had to grapple with the fact he is an outcast and murderer. Then they could've given him a redemption arc where he learns to control the Hyde.

[@dagak1180]

Yeah, I hated that. I actually kind of liked him and then episode 8 happened :(

[@akirakhan4790]

@@YariAzQuran One could argue him saying he "enjoyed" murdering was a coping mechanism with being forced to murder and being abused/tortured/groomed. Telling yourself that the pain you undergo and the pain you are being forced to put others through can be so much easier than coming to terms with the true horrors you're undergoing. Also him being a hyde may also influence some harsh things he may have said or believed. Maybe there is a part of him with truly malevolent desires, but he could also have nuance and be layered. I think the plot twist actually added more layers than him just being your generic Nice Guy TM white boy as a character.

[@ladygaygay94]

My favorite fun fact about this show is that Jenna Ortega never blinked unless her character was feeling emotion. It makes rewatching the season so much more fun when you realize she’s stone face and unblinking while everyone around her is flailing lol

[@trinaq]

Agreed, Jenna is so dedicated to her craft, she's got a bright future ahead of her for sure! 🖤🔮

[@marina.chayka]

It was creepy af I loved it!!!

[@UClf6NAwctxXiZbHT0J1-2-Q]

not to mention all the skills she learned to prep for the role! the fighting and the cello and the dancing, she's incredible

[@erikdaniels0n]

Jenna dedication to the role (learning the cello, fencing, archery canoeing, and German and choreographing Wednesday’s iconic dance number) is what really put the show over the top for me. I loved Jenna going into the show, but the show really gave me a new admiration for her ability as an actor

[@lauracerqueiramachado8979]

She said Tim Burton himself advised her to do so because he knew this kind of detail would stand out her creepiness and seriousness to the audience, he also told her to have moments when she looked straight at the camera the famous "Kubrick stare"

[@MARZ_ZIG_X]

When Tyler asks if Thing is Wednesday’s pet and he FLIPS HIM OFF was what sold me on the show. Thing was the unsung hero of this show!

[@ShinryuZensen]

Always been, along side Uncle Fester.

[@tirwd]

@@ShinryuZensen REALLL

[@tobiramatime]

Check out Wednesday edit on my channel, you won't regret it!

[@personalaccount9938]

Unsung hero lol. Literally everyone likes Thing, he’s certainly not unsung.

[@theodavis4565]

For love interests, I wish that instead of a triangle, Wednesday got a reliable friend who the audience can tell likes her but doesn't act on it because he feels like his feelings would just bother her. It'd be nice to develop their chemistry and history until Wednesday becomes more understanding/aware of other people's emotions.

[@char1211]

I feel like that's sorta what would have happened/could happen with Xavier. He really seems to respect Wednesday's boundaries and understand her lack of emotion when it isn't hurting anyone(him). Personally, I really like their relationship dynamic when they're on good terms but I like him as a character in general so I'm a bit biased

[@RaNgErs_Rep]

It's not a love triangle it's more like a string she's showed no interest in Xavier the whole time

[@blizzardeagle1749]

Eugene?

[@TrentR42]

What you described did happen. Enid. We don't know if Wednesday is asexual, bisexual, or heterosexual. I'm personally hoping for this ship.

[@GetGoodSweetie]

@@RaNgErs_Rep I thought the same thing, I never saw anything towards him unless they want to force it

[@sandram852]

I think Enid is the way she is because she has the spirit of a wolf puppy. I like her portrayal a lot.

[@dizzy9751]

I think part of the reason for the love interests being so boring is just that that have no substance and we're not really given reason to care about them. The writers basically took two conventionally attractive boys, slapped some daddy issues on them, and forced them into the plot. It took me until the 6th episode to be able to remember either of their names.

[@thealmightybucket5930]

i called tyler coffee boy for the whole season. the only time where i was like "aw that's sweet" was during the movie scene. absolutely did NOT like xavier at all, super whiny and entitled, and i HATED when he asked bianca to make him forget about wednesday. at least for tyler it makes sense why he stuck around for so long, but i really did not like xavier.

[@momoh5241]

@@thealmightybucket5930 bro I couldn’t tell the difference between for like 3 episodes, there both just boring

[@guyinthechair5795]

@@thealmightybucket5930I only liked coffee boy more because he wasn’t as hard to watch as the emo tortured Artist teenager. I hope Wednesday and that dude don’t become the main shop we know the show will end on but will constantly pull a will they won’t they with a new addition to the love triangle every season. Honestly, why did we have to have Wednesday in a love triangle to begin with? Leave it at just romantic interest since that was the only reason coffee guy being the monster would actually make the viewer care about him. Xavier could’ve just been his own thing and would’ve been better for it.

[@zachjason1751]

Yeah I loved the show but it felt kinda jarring that Wednesday would have such bland love interests. Like even if they were bubbly personality wise like Enid that would have made them 100x better in my book as it would have made the dynamic way more interesting I'd have been cool with Xavier or Tyler just being friends with her and wanting to help her in non romantic ways as I feel Tyler at least could be a decent straight man to Wednesday's super unique personality

[@dancingemmarind]

She does end up with a guy named Lucas Beineke (not the Lucas in the show) in the musical. And he’s pretty cool and has an actual personality lol

[@Chuuzus]

Wednesday exceeded my expectations. it was actually really good and no one would’ve played Wednesday better than Jenna Ortega

[@randywhite3947]

Not even christina ricci?

[@richardethridge8521]

@@randywhite3947 absolutely not

[@heyysophie9928]

@@richardethridge8521 wtf

[@UClf6NAwctxXiZbHT0J1-2-Q]

Jenna Ortega definitely offered a new and fresh take to the character but still kept the roots of Wednesday alive and thriving

[@jmcmontanheiro]

Mee too! That is perfect casting

[@JoyaLewisTheMusician]

You’re telling me we have a school full of sirens, gorgons, werewolves, vampires, a guy that controls bees, and a guy that can animate art - and Crackstone just HAS to be defeated by Wednesday? I mean she can fence and all, but come on!

[@lieke3043]

The Enid - Wednesday friendship and everything around that was by far my favourite part of the show. They really made each other better and grew because of each other. I loved Enid so much. Oh and the Enid - thing dynamic had me crying from laughter multiple times.

[@slsthewriter1299]

The one thing that I will say with Enid (who I actually really like, lol) is that she really grounds the reality that these are still high schoolers. She is a little cringey, and dorky, and all around just awkward, but that baseline clashes with the moments where she is genuine and more or less mature. It still is very much Enid, like when she explained how she was trying to be Wednesday's friend, but you also get the sense that she'll grow into herself a little bit more. I think the key is that she's a direct foil to Wednesday. Wednesday, even with all her faults, is quite mature for her age. The way she expresses herself doesn't come across as a 16 year old/sophomore or whatever, but she is. Enid is 100% a 16 year old. Lol. And a puppy at heart. And most definitely a kpop fan, has a pinterest, and peruses Wattpad on the regular.

[@allisonreilly1952]

I agree with you!!! I also think Enid is so eager and is so rainbows and sunshine is kind of a way she can make herself more likable… like she can wolf-out like the other werewolves so compensates by being the most enthusiastic, likable person so people will accept her even though she can’t wolf-out like the other werewolves.

[@erikdaniels0n]

@@allisonreilly1952 I view it as a way of kind of rebelling against her family, particularly her mother. The fact that her color scheme and personality clash so much with her mother’s isn’t too hard to miss

[@riad.7635]

@Erik Danielson ooh that's right, good insight! I was actually kinda surprised when I saw Enid's parents because I thought they would be as colorful and cheerful as her lol

[@MollyMA13]

I rolled my eyes so hard when Enid first was introduced, but really came to like her throughout the series. Except at the end when she was saying what a “friend is”. That was a little cheesy.

[@slsthewriter1299]

@@MollyMA13 I dunno. Honestly, the sentiment was exactly what Wednesday needed to hear. People are going to do things for/with you to be your friend, because they care, not because they just want to manipulate. Which Wednesday does. A lot. Because she is far from empathetic. Lol. So even though Enid is Enid, and the way she expressed it was very much a bubbly high schooler who was upset, the core of it is far from cheesy, since that is what a friend is, and her having to spell it out for Wednesday (hence why it's a little "cheesy") says it plainly: Wednesday watched an attempted friendship dance naked before her, and she had no clue as to what it was.

[@mrtalos]

Gwendolyn Christie's character should not have been killed off. I haven't even got good reasons for it, I just wanted more of her

[@skyteus]

Maybe someone revived her in secret 😅😅 Cope 😅

[@DariaElGrellPozina]

I have- the Scoobie Doo-ass scene was the stupidest in the whole show. Coming to a serial killer who is also a master of poisonous plants (including one you have discussed muplitple times and have witnessed effect of on a 30 yo corpse) without a plan, a backup or an antidote is just stupid. And not even "overconfident Wednesday does something reckless like getting stabbed by a sudden wizard zombie because she decided to confront him instead of sneaking out after masterfully escaping", just plain stupid, on her part and especially on Weems part.

[@theflashgordon193]

agree. Also I need that tall lady in more thing. she can play more than just a badass character

[@andrews.5212]

That's contractual obligation after GoT xD

[@atomicace42]

To me what makes the scene of Thing almost dying emotional is the fact that Wednesday herself is getting emotional, crying for the first time since the death of her scorpion as a child. It shows just how much she truly cares for her family, and her growth as a character taking form

[@tatjana5427]

I really also don't understand why a lot of people dislike this Gomez, in my opinion the actor's portrayal is very fitting.. I also found the actors portraying the younger versions of the different characters (Gómez, Wednesday etc.) perfectly cast. Personally I loved Eugene the Bee-boy, he was just so endearing. I must agree though that the tik tok references were too much.

[@WaltDevil060]

I think that they disliked him because he wasn't as attractive as the actors from the previous movies. Although the actor that played him in the series definitely looks a lot more like the Gomez from the original comics

[@eleanorconnor4373]

@@WaltDevil060 Yeah I loved that they made him look like the comics!

[@eleanorconnor4373]

I loved Eugene, but then I was a loser at school, so I have great affection for that kind of character. Also I liked that they made him genuinely sweet.

[@andrews.5212]

It grew on me.. i think they unecessarily "uglify" the actor a bit too much IMHO.. he let himself go a lot from his younger self xD But certainly Raul Julia was very iconic in my mind as "Gomez".. although i would point out how now i realized "Addams" isn't really a castillian/spanish name xD (given is the name of the original comics author) a more castillian sounding surname might be "Adamez" or "Escalante" (escalofriante means "spooky" in spanish)

[@jarassigray9594]

It was a shock given the previous Gomez, but then I saw a tiktok that showed a bit of the original comic and like honestly Gomez is spot on. Conventionally attractive or not Gomez is a guy that loves the heck out of his wife and would do anything for his family. I think he's a good match.

[@reginehunter]

I 1,000% agree that Wednesday did not need a love interest; it’s so annoying that everyone needs a love interest in every single thing that comes out. I also agree that the ending of the show got ridiculous and I couldn’t stop rolling my eyes. I LOVE Jenna as Wednesday! Her version is perfect and has the right balance of weirdo and teenager. I like Pugsley too, people say that he’s too soft but Pugsley was softer. He was with the sh*ts but he wasn’t as violent as Wednesday. The only thing is that I would change is this being so PG-13 because I would like to see a darker version but I get why they didn’t do that.

[@MrProbeNWatch]

I was honestly expecting the first kiss scene to be really awkward seeing as she'd never done it before

[@reginehunter]

@@MrProbeNWatch same!

[@allynliving]

To me, it was about the irony of her saying in a pilot, how she'll never be like her mother and reliving Morticias story to a t, but giving it a different spin in the end.

[@mars5834]

Jenna has actually spoken out that if a season 2 gets greenlit she wants it darker as well, and with how influential she is on the crew hopefully that'll happen!

[@gameb9oy]

I didn’t mind it, while they rarely take it seriously, it’s not like it’s the first time they’ve tried to give Wednesday a love interest. That being said, the love triangle is definitely the weakest part of the show, and the boys in it feel like an afterthought with how they were written

[@writeordie5982]

Enid was cringe to me at first but her chemistry with Wednesday made her grow on me. I also grew to appreciate the contrast of her colorful vibes to Wednesday’s dark ones. Enid’s cheeriness fits in the show in a way that ms. Thornhill’s didn’t, which is what made me suspicious of thornhill in the first place.

[@LunaWitcherArt]

I like Enid's personality because she feels like she's supposed to be very similar to Wednesday. She's an outcast among outcasts, her powers aren't fully developed. She has acquaintances, but none of them include her in the Nightshades; She follows everybody on social media and has a gossip blog, but doesn't have a roommate (and would've spent the entire year alone if it wasn't for Wednesday arriving); her personality is "too much" so we see this as a justification for her being mostly kinda alone. While Wednesday separates herself from her peers, Enid just never fully assimilates with them despite being in the middle of it all. When she fights with Wednesday, she is taken in by Yoko, but she keeps coming back to her old room; probably because she could sense Yoko was just being nice and not actually a real, true friend. When she returns at the end, bloodied and bruised and slopily dressed, the only one that goes to her is her boyfriend at the time. No one even asks if she's okay, but she asks about Wednesday, her only actual real friend right now. And when she sees her, and sees she's okay, she runs to her and hugs her, and is even hugged back. The true outcasts, united and reunited.

[@xxMpEGxx]

Love Christina Ricci and I wanted her to be in this but yeah Ms Thornhill was kinda out of place. She never felt like having a purpose in the story. She shouldve been Wednesdays mentor/guardian like Lupin or Mad-eye Moody/Barty Crouch Jr. to Harry which wouldve made her betrayal so much more.

[@electricbaby7315]

same. she annoyed the hell out of me at first, but she actually grew on me quite a bit

[@lisamarie5341]

@@LunaWitcherArtI absolutely loved when they hugged at the end. It was the friendship version of ‘the romantic kiss’ after the big action scene. We need more platonic representation for young people, not everything is about dating.

[@lammieshipper]

@@LunaWitcherArt this is so sad 😭 😭 😭 😭

[@marilandgrebe928]

THANK YOU for addressing Crackstone using magic. It was so weird, especially since no one threw shade at him (or Laurel) for doing so. I woulda liked some one-liner burns to acknowledge it even if it's never properly addressed, imo some handwaving would've done me better than just not addressing that kind of character inconsistency.

[@iskra6264]

I don't think that he is using magic (at least not in the typical sense) but powers proper for a vengeful ghost made out of 300 years worth of stored-up impotent rage and resentment. Like, he is not a living person anymore, but a restless spirit bonded to a fleshy puppet, so an undead monster of some kind (that is why he could be vanquished only by destroying his black heart). He essentially became everything he hated in life, and I would assume that it makes him even angrier and more hateful than ever before, with his powers being the extension and expression of that rage.

[@TrentR42]

A Christian Pastor being a hypocrite? You're right, that's never happened before.

[@Dodo-gy4ly]

What I love about this show is that it doesn't do the frustrating misunderstanding tropes just to drag on the plot, characters say what they truly feel and it is really refreshing. Like Enid and Ajax, Xavier to Wednesday, and Tyler and Wednesday.

[@trinaq]

I love how in the Disney sitcom "Stuck in the Middle", Jenna's character compared herself to Wednesday, being the middle child of seven siblings. Now, she really IS Wednesday.

[@moonxliqht]

wait WHAT. LMAOO THAT'S ACTUALLY SO FUNNY. i used to watch stuck in the middle and ngl it's a pretty good show. it's a dumb disney show but it's really cute and entertaining

[@untertainment787]

hi trina

[@trinaq]

@@untertainment787 Greetings, great minds certainly think alike, right?! 💕

[@Texas-yeehaw]

That is so cute

[@untertainment787]

@@trinaq Exactly

[@rionamcauliffe5469]

I was really expecting Crackstone to have an identity crisis when he came back because he's technically a Frankie Stien style outcast

[@luciakaminski779]

That would have been great! Him wanting to erradicate all the outcasts, while dealing being an outcasts himself would have been amazing.

[@ruminator3570]

​@@luciakaminski779 Sheila Broslovsky in bigger longer uncut.

[@tink6225]

also i thought he had powers the whole time but went after outcasts to save his own ass

[@TrentR42]

Enid is my favorite character, and 17:30 makes me cry every time. Her overly bubbly personality and her obsession with her blog and gossip makes total sense to me. She's literally a pack animal that has been ostracized from that pack her whole life (and shamed for it by her mother), so she overcompensates with modern day social media to create a new pack relationship.

[@karrihart1]

I also love how the teen characters on this show are written and acted like actual teenagers, versus writers who seem to think teens are the exact same as 26 year olds (cough Euphoria cough).

[@chisomo8088]

Exactly! This is why I love Enid, because she's not cringe or anything, she's just a teenager in high school. I'm sure we all knew of an overly bubbly Enid in hs too

[@karrihart1]

@@chisomo8088 Hi, I was Enid in high school. That’s why she’s my favorite.

[@antoniaboboc7491]

Nah euphoria is just a different vibe

[@mlbrestreet]

@@karrihart1 the same lol

[@l187]

Wednesday is a show about teenagers for teenagers whereas Euphoria is a show about teenagers FOR ADULTS

[@trinaq]

Wednesday and Enid's dynamic makes this show, in my opinion. The actresses have fantastic chemistry, and I like that they have close platonic friendships.

[@anastasiadrozdova1192]

God forbid we have close platonic friendships anymore, am I right? Esp if the characters are same sex.

[@thealmightybucket5930]

@@anastasiadrozdova1192 why are you salty? 😭 there are plenty of platonic friendships between members of the same sex, what are you on about?

[@bismuth6778]

@@anastasiadrozdova1192 they have opposite personalities Ppl have loved dynamics like opposite attracts for generations obvi some ppl will ship them, and If they were opposite gender I'm sure those ppl would be the majority, also like the other person said there are many MANY good platonic friendships between women depicted in media literally what are you on

[@imhislobster2063]

@@anastasiadrozdova1192 doing the absolute most

[@sabrina0013]

the actresses constantly talk about kissing each other and have openly endorsed people shipping their characters. "platonic" my ass

[@gooblegal817]

one of my favorite parts of this Wednesday is that her character is consistently selfish and it comes back around. the writers let her overestimate herself and lose, and leaned into her "I can do it myself, people are only assets" mentality. later in the series she genuinely begins to care about some people (Enid/Eugene), but only after her self serving motives upend the relationships. this also made me kind of enjoy the love triangle up until she kissed Tyler, because she was literally using them to further her own interests and investigation, not because she had genuine feelings, which felt completely in character. Wednesday was never supposed to be a good person, and the fact that the writers acknowledge it instead of letting her be shitty to everyone with no consequences made this series so much better imo

[@RaNgErs_Rep]

I just want to point out that Wednesday actually had a love interest way back in Addams Family Values. And for thr most part she did use them but people get confused. The Addams Family are anti-heroes they're not necessarily good people but they're not bad people either and I mean they said in an interview themselves that they were going to humanize Wednesday. Plus I think most people know this but it technically wasn't a love triangle more like a string she never showed any feelings toward Xavier except of like friendship towards the end and even though she clearly did end up falling for Tyler her being Wednesday and got over it quite fast. Pretty I'm charcter

[@ChrisBrengel]

I did find it amusing that the first boy Wednesday ever kissed turned out to be a homicidal serial killer. "I guess I have a type" she said. LOL!

[@Bee-jq2yi]

I felt the morticia/Gomez/stalker storyline was necessary to the plot because it gave Wednesday a chance to bond and improve her relationship with her mother, which in turn progresses her character arc and allowed her to learn more about her visions, how to control them, how to channel the spirit of her ancestor Goody and so forth, and I liked that her mother Morticia was the one to do it.

[@mugibugi7669]

i to be honest think Enid should have been mad with Wednesday for a much longer time because i think Wednesday deserved it and it would have made their hug in the ending more powerful.

[@TheYasmineFlower]

Idk, that hug was after the finale, and I feel like "being mad at your best friend" kinda takes a backseat to "yay my best friend is still alive!".

[@LunaWitcherArt]

I quite like Enid's character. I think she really sells the idea that the only one who would be able to develop a genuine friendship with Wednesday is someone who's an outcast amongst outcasts. Eugene, the bee dude, served that purpose as well and I quite liked their interactions. I could see Eugene growing up in later seasons and Enid starting to notice him a bit more lol

[@RestlessChildcz]

Yes! Little less incel vibes from him tho pls

[@LunaWitcherArt]

@@RestlessChildcz aw, c'mon, he's not an incel, he just doesn't know how to approach a girl he likes. If he was an incel, Wednesday would have said he reminded her of her brother and he would never talk to her again.

[@ajabelcher-velez1482]

I LOVE EUGENE HE DESERVES ALL THE LOVE also yes Enid is so loveable even though she's a little cheesy

[@Kay-im6ht]

@@LunaWitcherArt Yeah, though he's clingy, he never really blames others for not liking him. Like, he doesn't even blame others to an understandable degree as an outcast loner, he just straight up doesn't. So yeah, no incel vibes imo. Love the lil guy

[@tinamoul]

@@RestlessChildcz How exactly was he an incel? He had a crush, and didn't flip his shit when his feelings weren't reciprocated. In what way does that give off incel vibes? 🤦🏿‍♂️

[@zasherakhan6957]

for the love triangles Jenna actually fought for there not to be one with the writers but wouldn't listen she says that now she hopes in the next season Wednesday and Xavier will have a platonic relationship

[@realestsienna]

wait but i like them together 😭

[@TheKeyser94]

Well, seeing how the audience reacted to Xavier, actually despise him, they surely reconsider him, but having a "platonic" relationship is to kind to a character being the creepy stalker that take no for an answer like Xavier, he is more the antagonist type, also the "tortured artist" is such a cliche, I trough that after Lana Lang and all what they done to actually make her likeable, like marrying to literally Lex Luthor, they would have learned by now.

[@-----REDACTED-----]

If there absolutely must be romance let it be Enid and Wednesday at the end of second season...

[@_LunarDragon]

@@TheKeyser94 The thing that kinda annoyed me the most about him was his attitude. He was so whiny and pissed off that Wednesday thought he was the monster. He seemed to act like he couldn’t fathom why/how Wednesday could think he’s the monster, despite the fact that throughout the series he does nothing but give her more reasons to think that. Like, maybe stop following her like a weird stalker, and maybe you won’t constantly be showing up right after the monster has just attacked someone.

[@_LunarDragon]

@@TheKeyser94 The thing that kinda annoyed me the most about him was his attitude. He was so whiny and pissed off that Wednesday thought he was the monster, and he seemed to act like he couldn’t fathom why/how Wednesday could think he’s the monster, despite the fact that throughout the series he does nothing but give her more reasons to think that. Like, maybe stop following her like a weird stalker, and maybe you won’t constantly be showing up right after the monster has just attacked someone.

[@Merlinlolol]

“Is your spectral vision impaired? I’m dying.” Best line in the show

[@delusion5867]

One 'thing' (pun accidentally intended) that surprised me in this show is how Thing has so much characterisation as just a hand that the scene where he gets stabbed and they try to revive him hit me straight in the feels. Honestly, Thing and Wednesday are my favourite characters in the show. (it's a difficult ranking in general, I love Enid, she has just enough cringe to be a gen z teen, and Eugene is a wholesome friend, and Enid is too) Also, I'm surprised this show is pg-13 when we get straight gore, dismemberment and a rather graphic corpse with a very broken neck. I am squeamish though

[@TheKingOfRooks]

I don't give a fuck about gore but I was taken aback, definitely was not expecting this show to be as bloody and gory as it was

[@delusion5867]

​@@TheKingOfRooks the broken-neck guy was super graphic. You'd think that he would be in the background, not taking centre place in the shot. It is TV-14 in the US which is suitable but it's rated 12 in the UK which seems too low. It's classified as M in my country (Australia) which means not recommended for under 15 but Aus is always stringent with rating anything. Still, I think it's properly rated.

[@TheKingOfRooks]

@@delusion5867 yeah I mean shit they showed a decapitated bloody head and severed limbs including a slashed up torso and shit like 15 minutes in, that just really shocked me lol

[@starlightnight5593]

No one expected this show would be such a huge hit . Jenna Ortega nailed it perfectly.

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yes the show is really great jenna nailed it

[@ftftyffghfvghfcht6701]

very clearly netflix did

[@laurenbroomfield3709]

This has been advertised so much what are you on about?

[@pissqueendanniella4688]

that "how do you think an attempted murder would look on your record" joke response from wednesday fucking KILLED ME. wednesday is a queen and she for sure slays

[@Oscar-----]

I actually really liked Enid. It's always refreshing to see teenagers in teen shows actually act like teenagers, and she reminded me very strongly of some girls I was friends with in high school.

[@tannerorrock1916]

I really liked Enid like she was very bubbly and sweet but she didn't let Wednesday walk all over her also Tyler had the weirdest 180 with his character in end like when he was talking to Wednesday in the police station was a little odd

[@lelannazalee2730]

As a 90s kid who grew up adoring the Addams Family, this show did not do them dirty. It was respectful, but definitely left the fun family dynamic in the background a bit. Jenna Ortega was perfection. However, in my mind Anjelica Huston will remain the best Morticia of all time. She was meant to play that role. Having Christina Ricci in the cast was brilliant, but unfortunately I also saw the twist coming a mile away. Still happy she was in it as she will always be my first thought when I think Wednesday Addams.

[@angelaholmes8888]

Yeah I totally figured out that Christina character was bad news

[@noobmasterruben5167]

Wednesday, Sandman and Inside Job part 2 are the biggest Netflix surprises for me this year

[@thibomeurkens2296]

I really hoped that it would have been someone else. It seems like there never is an extremely nice character just because they’re nice. I liked her nice persona a lot.

[@AnoAssassin]

About the only criticism that I personally care to give was also about the parents, what was all that about the murder case??? The Addamses, at least in the 90s movies, are openly cool with killing and don't feel bad about it. Why was anyone involved ashamed? I get wanting to hide it to avoid jail but not the sorrow over it They might not be insidious murderers but a duel to the death for the sake of love is Gomez's bread and butter

[@TSDTalks22]

@@AnoAssassin I think Wednesday was more upset about them lying to her, and they just didn’t want to get caught or spend time in prison. None of them seemed particularly cut up about the actual murder itself

[@justwonder1404]

I love that Wednesday is flawed, but the show knows she's flawed, she's repeatedly called out for it and faces consequences of her actions. It makes her so much more relatable even when she makes obvious mistakes. P.S. wait, Dumbo and Mrs Peregrine were by Tim Burton?? Man, that's tragic.

[@LjuboCupic1912]

There was a lot of studio interference during Dumbo, Burton himself complained about how Disney went out of their way to make it less creative

[@GrimSanto]

Tim Burton was producer and directed half the episode. The real credit should go to the crew he brought in and the showrunners & creators...Miles Millar, Alfred Gough (of Smallville fam). They did a great job leveraging Burton style while adding their own flair. Jenna Ortega is also pitch perfect as Wednesday.

[@SingAllTheThings]

As a note to you, Friendly Space Ninja, "Goody" isn't a name, it's an antiquated title. So it's kind of like calling her "Miss Addams", and also releases the writers from the obligation of trying to give her a first name, lol

[@user-yl2cr1cx1u]

the purpose of the side episode with morticia killing the stalker was to establish the gates family as people who hated the outcasts and to introduce the motive that laurel gates (thornhill) had to really hate wednesday and her family (in addition to her ancestor killing crackstone) it was a definitely needed part and really smoothly introduced the gates family into the forefront of the show when we had just heard like 2 mentions previous about their house. without it it wouldn’t really make the transition from rogue monster in the woods to someone human is masterminding this

[@char5108]

THIS!! i was looking for someone to say this

[@charlotteb3960]

I think it also gave wednesday a chance to understand her parents better. The fact that she used the same sword to kill crackstone felt like a full circle moment to when her mother used it.

[@hollywooddarling]

@@charlotteb3960 Agreed here! This sideplot was important as the first red herring, and it also gave us more depth to the Addams family dynamics, obviously some fanservice (very welcome), but also, very importantly, it was extremely important regarding Wednesday's character development and our understanding of her. Wednesday, if you take away her family, can come across as similar to the other sociopathic/asshole male detective characters that we have too much of. While Wednesday is obviously a goth psycho, her bond with her family is extremely important and allows us to see that she is very well-adjusted despite everything because of how loving her family is, and how much she loves and respects them (Morticia, Gomez, Pugsley, Fester).

[@adventureswithmadison]

Definitely agree! It was definitely an important line

[@isadora6092]

@@hollywooddarling don't forget Thing!!

[@apoorvsingh4459]

One of my favorite scenes of Jenna's acting was her quarrel with enid. You know she cares about her as she just gets a little bit teared up, but it is not too apparent but we can still notice the change in her eyes as they soften a bit. That is some incredible acting 👏

[@L4tinG]

What I liked about that fight is that it showed they cared about each other. When they were listing all the things they found annoying about the other, I was like "damn, both of you have been paying attention."

[@apoorvsingh4459]

@@L4tinG it was obvious that enid did care,because of how hurt she was. But from Wednesday's side it was something new which we hadn't seen before as she really felt sad after it.

[@cheezbiscuit4140]

Enid's eye twitched a little when she called wednesday out 10/10 acting

[@NotoriousLightning]

Nah, you misunderstood the whole show my friend.

[@sassylittleprophet]

Not only that, but there was a tiny break in Wednesday's voice when she said "I never asked you to do that." It's such a quick moment and easy to miss, but it stuck out to me because...it's Wednesday. Wednesday doesn't really acknowledge having emotions, let alone show them to others because she views emotion as weakness. That moment felt like emotion slipping out without her meaning to, this reaction was beyond her control.

[@MiguelGonzalez-sl5hw]

It’s a shame you didn’t like Enid’s character. I actually love her character because I, unironically, relate to her struggles of trying to please everyone. She may seem naive and ditzy, but she’s unshakably a strong and good person who supports those around her, including THING OF ALL PEOPLE! Not to mention she breaks the bubbly girly girl stereotype by respecting Wednesday’s no hug boundaries. Call me crazy but I’m pretty much a sucker for warm characters. To note, Emma Myers does a great job portraying Enid.

[@z0mb3rt]

1. I agree with you on the casting. The first thing I said about this show after surprising myself by liking it was that pretty much all of the casting was fucking incredible, coming from somebody who grew up OBSESSED with The Addams Family. 2. I got the impression that Enid was cringe and disney-esque for a reason tho. Like it felt very intentional to me that she was meant to contrast and feel out of place tonally because it sort of put a spotlight on Wednesday's flaws. 3. God my immediate DETEST for the love triangle aspect cannot be overstated. It literally defeats the entire POINT of Wednesday Addams as a character. It was completely unnecessary. 6. As much as I love that Christina Ricci was in this, I spent the entire show hoping to God they weren't going to make her the twist villain because it would be too obvious. I wish they had found another role for her character.

[@leahmoore3226]

I hope in season 2 they reveal that Goody is still inside of Wednesday and shows her possessing Wednesday to hurt outcast haters. Having Wednesday going through random blackouts would be an interesting plot point in future storylines. I also want the show to acknowledge how terrible what happened to Tyler was in season 2 and how he was groomed/manipulated into becoming a murderer (I know that Hydes are messed up by nature, but I think there is a clear separation between Tyler's personality and the Hyde personality- like they are two separate people sharing the same body, playing off of the story of Jekyll and Hyde). Hopefully, Xavier will also get more attention to his character because there is potential for an interesting story there with his latent psychic abilities, neglectful father, and infatuation with Wednesday.

[@lainiwakura1776]

Don't quit your day job, that idea is dumb and cliche as hell.

[@zebbr0s]

@@lainiwakura1776 damn calm down no one is forcing you to be here

[@delusion5867]

@@lainiwakura1776 If this is serious, you could have just kept your mouth shut instead of insulting op with an unnecessarily nasty comment and making yourself out to be a complete asshole. I'm guessing you're a troll but, either way, learn how to make constructive criticism.

[@coolcatalesha]

@@lainiwakura1776 deep breaths dude thats so mean for no reason lol

[@kizzyharris3727]

The storyline for Wednesday here is literally just what happened in season 1 just with Wednesday instead

[@pinkpantherjealousy]

I'm so glad you mentioned Sabrina! I remember binge-watching this and saying to my boyfriend, this is what Sabrina wanted to be but failed. The writing is amazing in this show. I was completely hooked from the beginning. Somehow the show made me stick around because I desperately needed to know who the monster was. They used gen z slang without trying too hard/shoving it down the audience's throat. Also, the fact that Eugene has two moms was not his "personality"/plot line. The show did not need to prove it was progressive. Having two moms/dads is normal. I loved that Wednesday's character is flawed. She needs to realize that there are people that care about her and she needs to be less selfish. I'm curious how they are going to develop her character in the next season. I hope she does grow and learn to have meaningful relationships but also doesn't lose her core self.

[@madeleine.genevieve]

this was the first comment I made while watching with my boyfriend!! halfway through the first episode I was like “this is what Sabrina wished they were” LOL we just agreed on hoping they keep musical covers out of it 😅

[@erikdaniels0n]

YES! The first season of Sabrina had so mich potential, and Wednesday blew even that out of the water

[@KennethLyVideography]

I do think that the 1st season of Sabrina is pretty solid. Wednesday made me think back to the days when I actually enjoyed Sabrina. If Sabrina could have been as good as Wednesday is I bet Shipkas Sabrina would be as iconic as Ortegas Wednesday.

[@LunaWitcherArt]

lol the show definitely needed to prove it was progressive after the "Tim Burton's racism reflects on his work" discussion from a while back. I believe they tried to reach a middle ground with this show by getting the whitest Latin cast they could and making them paler with makeup (this makes it easier on the makeup team to achieve Tim Burton's characteristic style without it looking *too* jarring, and it also kinda serves as a clap back at the people who said his aesthetics were inherently racist). I honestly don't care about any of it, but I'm happy to see some effort going into diversifying the cast even if his motivation isn't so genuine. The POC characters felt very developed, which is a step up considering all other shows that just included POC actors to avoid backlash and again, denotes effort. I'm just very satisfied with it overall.

[@nattthekittycat]

The one thing that would have made the "Awkward love triangle" work would have been if Wednesday just completely stonewalled them both, and only went with it to get what she wanted. And then, in the end, she nd Xavier talk about it and she just comes out like "I don't feel love" or something, cementing her as ace/aro. THAT would have been *chefs kiss*

[@kaidestinyz]

I'd have prefer Christina to play an aunt role, a mentor to Wednesday, maybe it's predictable but I like the "passing down the torch" feel to it.

[@JupeGiggles]

Peep my recent video I discussed this

[@cyler01]

i feel like the show did a good job conveying how uncomfortable she was with the relationship stuff. like, this is the world, someone is going to want you, so idk how realistic not showing it would be; but the fact that most of it is her discovering she might actually have feelings, not necessarily about the relationship with the boys themselves, makes it more than appropriate to me. added so much depth

[@Blirre]

Yup, I agree. The love interests were kind of forced in the show but it has sometimes felt like that in my life too. Someone suddenly likes me and I don't get it and it feels uncomfortable. I think that dynamic was represented well. She didn't seem really into dating either even though she went along with it and I see that as her just wanting to experience the normal teenage stuff in general (maybe to check it off a list).

[@adlcnyc]

I wish i could like this comment 1000 times. That was my take as well. However, i do agree with his criticism of the two love interest. I wish one of the boys would've been an open ended stort line, type of thing, where you know they should be liking each other, but they dont..... yet. Having just one guy after her would have been more align with the character, and people in the story would have been like, "really, you like her..." lol i also think they made her look toooooo pretty, and realistically speaking, it makes sense she would have two guys after her. Lol

[@cyler01]

@@adlcnyc i would agree, but i think the fact that the two boys are from two different ‘worlds’ allows for some more depth, since the whole overarching story was ab normies vs outcasts. so her choosing the normie boy was almost poetic, because of how the whole thing ended.

[@adlcnyc]

@@cyler01 only that he wasnt a normie lol

[@kylerjohnson4352]

It felt forced a little bit but I didn't have a problem with her starting to have feelings just her not understanding how to show them as she still as a teenage girl just a very twisted one so it makes sense she would maybe form feelings for someone ik her way of forming them my problem was tyler was just to uninteresting

[@jaroneller1525]

21:10 that scene was one of the greatest things about this show tbh, we got to see Wednesday show more emotion in that one scene than in the entirety of the first season. ep 7 in general was just overall very very good because we got to see how much Wednesday actually cares about her family: she really smiles when Fester shows up without trying to hide it, she cries when Thing nearly dies. we get to see a whole lot of growth and acceptance in there and its really beautiful

[@pyreaurum676]

I honestly think that with some adjustments, the 7th episode would have made a more compelling ending than the 8th.

[@KDBetter]

Jenna Ortega deserves alllll the praise. She did an incredible job. She better win some damn awards or something

[@prudenceemillian5660]

I cannot fathom how anyone can fail to love Enid, but I guess to each their own. I LOVED HER!

[@Vicky-uv8ri]

Finally, the comments are open! Re: your question for old fans. I have been an Addams Family fan for over two decades now, and just like you, I side-eyed the whole idea. After Fate and Cowboy Bebop, Netflix should stick to buying shows, Tim Burton fell off, please no more milking nostalgia, etc. But this was SO GOOD! I ended up binging it all in a day too. And I see your criticism, the whole murder plot was very unnecessary but Gomez is so magnetic on screen that I didn't mind seeing more of him.

[@drawingsticks5333]

As another Addams fan, I feel like they have been very...tame. thoughts?

[@Vicky-uv8ri]

@@drawingsticks5333 Yeah, it feels like it's making an entrance to the Addams family for newbies. Like they are trying to get new fans and ease them into it. Morticia and Gomez are joking about random murders in Family Values, here it's a big deal. There is very little gore or body horror, they are frontloading with the piranhas. I don't mind it, though, if younger people end up liking Wednesday, there is more to discover for them and who am I to not welcome that.

[@beritheuck1067]

As someone who grew up watching the old show on vhs (I was probably way too young at the time but it was my favorite) I absolutely agree with you and I also binged it in one sitting because it just captured me in a way no show has done on the past few years (except for the last episode which was way too fast paced and possibly would’ve benefited from being split in two)

[@zandikhetwayo7444]

@@Vicky-uv8ri as a 16 year old who grew up with the Addams family. I definitely agree it’s too tame😭

[@liv97497]

Same! I wasn't even going to watch it, but I was in the room when my sister started it and I'm happy to say I was pleasantly surprised. I'd been disappointed with Tim Burton in the last few years, but this felt like it had an actual spark behind it, and it feels like everybody involved really cared about the material, which is why I think the creative decisions work.

[@devonwatson4385]

I very much disagree with the stuff about Enid. There needed to be an extreme dynamic to Wednesday. She is a foil to Wednesday, but instead of being antagonistic the dynamic is friendly. There needed to be something to show Wednesday growing, and to me nothing is better than her opening up to her entire opposite.

[@joyc.e.7511]

I agree! I'm often a fan of sun-shiney characters, and Enid was great imo.

[@Jokerasmaw]

Oh man I love Enid! She’s the bright spot in this dark show, I feel like they need her to balance the darkness out.

[@velloceti6898]

Jenna kills it as Wednesday! I think they characterization of the student cast works well to contrast Wednesday, though sometimes at the expense of the character (for the reasons you discussed). My big let down was the writing for the Gomez, Morticia, and Pugsly: they felt way too normal, for the Addams family. Which contrasts really strangely with Wednesday, Fester, and Thing; who were played perfectly.

[@iamangieh]

11:51 in an interview, Jenna also agrees that the interest in the boys was out of character and mentions how she tried to tell the writers that she was super against such a prevalent romantic plot hahaha she said that she really wants there to be more m/f platonic relationships in media because there simply aren't enough of them represented edit: i found the interview and timestamp ;)) kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYaxop98o6lqrdE edit 2: you know what, it's not the interview i first saw in a yt short so i'll keep looking 😭

[@Eddeha]

I loved how Wednesday was allowed to be arrogant and to fail in this story. And I also feel like not only was the romance plot unnecessary, but it wasn't handled great either. Wednesday taking an arrow for Xavier felt like a random last minute addition to help smooth things over between the two so they could have potential friendship/romance later on--like Xavier might've even shot the OP wizard if he hadn't practically announced his presence with the most cliche line ever. Still love the show, but I hope season two can improve on those issues

[@lenkajunova7419]

I think the design of Hyde is at least partially based on actual description of Mr. Hyde in the novel. At least I read it few years ago and felt it made sense when they revealed the name for the monster 😂sure it looks like from Scooby-Doo but this is not a horror series or Supernatural episode. Also the big eyes are kind of Burton's signature move 😅

[@makaylahughes4969]

The way wednesday could've fought crackstone while dying is by just letting goody possess wednesday and use her body with the caviat that once she leaves her body, Wednesdays injuries will come back. It makes things interesting, gives a good final showdown, and gets Wednesday out of the life-threatening situation without creating a convoluted plot line.

[@Chetanp1445]

I think without a doubt the acting and characters were the best part, jenna ortega was fantastic, the side characters were great, the veteran actors were obviously great, the only character i thought was poor was of xavier’s character, idk if the actor meant for the character to be whiny or moody, or if it was tim burton’s idea but for me didn’t work

[@moonxliqht]

agreed. idk why i just really did not like xavier. the actor was great as was everyone else but xavier was just so unlikable and confusing

[@alittlepotato546]

I didn't really like Enid. She didn't feel like a person.

[@arianewinter4266]

interesting, I, as someone who hates most romance plots and interests felt like it Xavier really worked well. If he is to mush of a pushover, he becomes her tool and that would not work, if he is to confrontational, he gets her adversery and they end up killing eachother. I felt like he hit the sweetspot inbetween quite well. Enough patience to put up with her, not feeling entitled to her liking him, but not enough of a doormat that he would not push back when she goes to fare. Not confrontational but absolutly willing to call her out. His crush on her is not random out of nothing, it feels belivable how he finds her oddeties endearing, that he does not imidietly backs of, he does not overly idealise her but is very willing to addapt to her, he does not try to change who she is. his charactersisation is not weak, it is subtil cause he is an introvert that lets her decide how their interactions go and addapt so she feels comfortable with him instead of pushing what he wants onto her, he lets her dicide what she makes of it. Over all, I think he is probably the ideal love interest they could have come up with for her. Enid is to demanding, Tyler to much of a follower so was the kid from the movie. Someone who imidietly melts her icy exterior would have been unbelivable, so it needs to be someone who gets to her with time and he, who she cant figure out, cant showe into the role of tool or adversery as much as she tries has the best chances. Bothy are artsy introverts with a macabre inclination, sarcastic, are facinated by challenges . . .

[@riad.7635]

same here, I also didn't like Xavier's character. which is a shame because from the interviews, it looks like the actor has a fun personality irl

[@IndependentMind115]

If you have any other aspects of the show you want to share, please do. Here's my take on what is most bothersome about the show, as entertaining as it was: 1. Family Conflict/Rebellion Wednesday is depicted as basically the epitome of emo, punk, and goth children in the last 20 years. She's rebellious, she doesn't want to follow in her parents' footsteps, and most importantly, she doesn't give a single F what other people think of her (which is problem #2 in this essay). The love that was palpable within the Addams family, one that tied every strange character together in a sense of unity and understanding, is no longer there. Her teenage years are finally here, and she's not giving a single F about it. In fact, you sense that she is hurt in some way, but they don't explain anything about that, so you're left to guess what in the world Morticia and Gomez, who loved her so deeply, could have done to make her turn against them so badly. To make matters worse, Gomez is depicted as a suspect for murder! This is an example of my problem #3. 2. Anger/Angst This is what My Chemical Romance, Green Day, Avril Lavigne, and all those artists basically promoted, and it's something most of us love. However, because this is such a hackneyed concept and outlet of emotional release, it's like a p*rn scenario we've watched multiple times and then there's yet _another_ video based on that same premise. This sort of personality is almost always fueled by some sort of past hurt, betrayal, or just anger at the world, so there is almost always a reason for the angst. Wednesday seemingly has no reason, and that reason is not provided to us, especially not regarding her family. We have edge lords, so Wednesday would be an edge lady. Her edgy, angsty one-liners certainly made us laugh, but that was it. And that's all we're given. She constantly defies authority to the point of pugnacity, puts her newfound friends in danger, and seeks validation for her beliefs, especially on the premise of her visions making her crazy. Gaslighting at its finest! This is one of the only things that makes us root for her - to see her win, because everything that happens in the show only puts her in the worst light possible. This is my problem #4. 3. Disconnect from Original Addams Family Satire or Universe As Shawn Ryan said on this matter, this isn't as bad as the first two issues I mentioned, but it still leaves us a bit flat, "giving us nothing." The classic satire and irony that was central to the original TV show's theme is mid at best in this show. A couple of the movies still kept this humor in their scripts, but because this show was basically all about Wednesday, Jenna had to carry the whole show. Plus, as Shawn said, the whole world of Nevermore was right up her alley with everything and everyone being an anomaly or weird (even though it was basically an offbrand Hogwarts). It's like Lavagirl swimming in lava - you expect it and there is no dissonance. However, that dissonance is what makes Addams family humor and satire so satisfying. Shawn said that the abnormal is normal for the Addams family and that is 100% true. So that's the second strike against the show in this regard. For example, the original masochistic Wednesday probably would have felt little to nothing about being stabbed; in the show, however, you could see a mix of fear and regret in this version's eyes. All those days of playing with knives, seeing who could last longer on the wheel of death? Down the drain. Plus, Thing is basically a dead hand with stitches. Would the original Wednesday cry over a dead hand if she plays with death herself? No, it's not logical. Same applies to Gomez's scandal with Garrett Gates' death. Death was something the Addams family played with, not be horrified at, and I would assume it would be the same during their backstory. 4. Wednesday's Constant Dislike or Abhorrence of Other People and Their Lives It's telling that Wednesday alludes to Machiavelli, because that's exactly whom she acts like. Subterfuge, manipulation, obsession. She uses people for her goals and basically tosses them aside when she doesn't need them. That's some _major_ character devolution if you ask me! The sweet little girl who was oddly obsessed with spiders and torture methods is no longer with us. They killed her and replaced her with a sadistic, Machiavellian, egotistical Karen clone who cannot be stopped because her intelligence and wit always shut her opponents up. Even her own parents cannot escape her wrath as she is a _tormenta_ that will never die - literally. This Elphaba-Glinda pairing was obviously going to lead to "Glinda" getting hurt. And all the friends she made at Nevermore evidently mean nothing to her (until the very end when she finally develops as a character). She will always dislike what they like simply because she is not like anyone else. Remember when she taught Lurch how to dance? Now she evidently hates the thought of dances and is simply there with an ulterior motive. All of this causes not only us as the audience to strongly dislike her, but also everyone around her to dislike her. Besides her wit and intelligence (which there was obviously a loophole in) as a reason for us to root for her, we also root for her because everyone is turning against her and "she must be vindicated!" These are both _very_ shallow reasons for us to side with her. 5. The CGI.

[@patotive4704]

Well said, my exact thoughts on the show, its an ok show with fun parts but its not the addams family

[@AllgoodthingsTv]

One of the better Netflix shows of 2022 for sure. Initially, halfway through the pilot I was not that impressed, and even turned it off. But then I revisited it with a friend and quickly realized I must've just been in a bad mood or something when I first saw it because I really liked it. That dance sequence is awesome and Jenna Ortega, who was a big fish in a small pond in "You," finally got a chance to sprout her wings. I also really liked Emma Meyers as Enid.

[@NikkiBudders]

Personally I bailed when they started focusing on the "romance" aspect with Tyler. Under no circumstances is Wednesday a character who dates, and especially not at this point in her arc. She's barely capable of being in a friendship, and the writer's thought making her "fall in love" was going to go well? Stupid fandom-baiting bs.

[@shohinighosh3102]

After some thinking about the show once I finished it, I feel like Thornhill basically groomed Tyler by unlocking the Hyde and making him think he could only trust her. Anyone else feel the same?

[@Yeodoongiiie]

yeah😭

[@LunaWitcherArt]

I mean, nothing says "villain" like a groomer lol But it wasn't really grooming because unlocking his Hyde wasn't dependent on their relationship, but on the chemicals she used on him. That part wasn't really well explained (most likely as a result of bad writing), so I'm just dismissing it instead of problematizing it.

[@vilAvain]

them interacting towards the end of the season was so uncomfortable to watch

[@joyc.e.7511]

That's what I thought too. I didn't like the personality 180 he did. I was weird. I was under the impression that he wasn't mentally aware of the things he was doing, which would have made that torture scene with Wednesday more emotionally impactful when she realizes that he doesn't remember anything and she's hurting a mostly innocent person.

[@Starkiller2725]

It's kind of obvious that this happened, imo. He is bound to her will and can't resist her after all.

[@H.P.93]

The only part of the love storylines I liked was the horror movie Tyler picked out for the crypt date. It made me laugh because for she would find Legally Blonde horrifying.

[@aathenaiz6151]

as a jenna ortega fan for quite a while, the fact that she is finally getting the recognition she deserves. it is amazing to see 🖤

[@shaliekk]

I've never cried at a pinky promise and a hug before. Thanks Wednesday 🖤

[@ladygaygay94]

I’m so glad you made a video on this!! As someone who loves the campy 90s movies, I was a bit hesitant going into this even though I love Jenna Ortega. But, to my surprise, even though it could’ve played out like a CW teen drama, the acting, plot, and design made everything feel so alive. The idea of Wednesday going to school with vampire and werewolves while being an amateur detective makes total sense. And of course, Jenna Ortega stole the show. She made Wednesday feel like Christina Ricci’s portrayal while also putting a new spin on it. I honestly just loved this show so much!

[@koraorion4506]

When I was watching, I immediately thought "This is what Chilling Adventures WISHES it was", so I'm glad I'm not the only one! Also, I'm pretty faceblind, so I literally could not tell the difference between the two romantic interests for an episode or so 😂

[@paigehansen8944]

12:39 I actually liked the inclusion of romance in this show for Wednesday. All of the titular characters (Enid, room mom (at first), headmistress, coffee boy, artist boy, siren girl, the Adam’s family themselves [been too long since I last watched to remember the names]) serve as pressure to make Wednesday change her character throughout the story. Maybe color & touch isn’t always bad because Enid softens her over time. Maybe romance isn’t always gross and stupid. Maybe family isn’t just annoying people you’re forced to live with. Maybe a school isn’t just a hindrance to one’s goals. Each of these values are initially rejected by Wednesday until they’re put in danger and she has to realize she’s lying to herself about what & who she values as she jumps into danger to save them. I liked it honestly Edit: OMG & bee boy!! I cannot believe I left him out I love him. Bee boy showed her that she cares about him personally and by extension, the club he loves. So amazing

[@tobennaokoli4450]

I like how Wednesday isn’t your typical unfeeling emo kid. She has emotions and can feel happy, sad, or angry just like the rest of us. She just has the willpower not to let them overpower her. She also doesn’t have godlike levels of intellect and plot armor. She’s defeated a decent amount, can be surprise attacked, overpowered and one upped by many people around her, but she uses her losses to make herself stronger. Wednesday who strong female characters think they are.

[@lollipopsky8941]

tyler was bland throughout the season i think almost purposely, but at the end i feel like that changed and his character has good potential to be explored in season 2. can't say the same for xavier, he was just there....kinda reminded me of jonathan byers💀

[@julietoconnor323]

As a die hard Addams Family fan (and specifically a fan of the Wednesday character) I absolutely loved this interpretation. I can’t wait to see where it goes next!

[@Nivmax]

This is pretty much what I was gonna write.

[@AA-mj4sn]

Without being an unconditional fan of the Addams family, I consider this show to be the poorest of all adaptations. I explain myself : The Addams is about a family’s life and how they live and interact with each other, not a single family member. Plus, the Addams are supposed to be an inversion of the ideal American family whatever it’s in the 30s when they were created, the 60s with the series and the 90s with the films. Part of the fun was they never concerned themselves about how people perceived them, they never cared about the taboos and appearances that others middle and upper-class families were obsessed about. That despite their oddity and monster aesthetics, they were the most loving and authentic family of all. That why most of Addams family’s stories resolved around the Addams family being confronted to normal people and it revealed the ridicule of these preppy people compared to the Addams. But here Wednesday is sent to a school of paranormal/monster kids, which makes her not the oddity or outsider she’s supposed to represent as an Addams. It’s reduced her to the moody emo girl archetype in every school drama (to the point that it was parodied with the character of Joan of Arc in Phil Lord and Chris Miller’s Clone High, the creator of the Lego movie and Spiderverse franchise twenty years ago.) Worst, being one of the only human students with no apparent power or one that she controls makes Wednesday the normie around them. So it’s not an Addams family story, it’s a young adult fantasy school drama that marketed itself as Addams family to gain viewership because of the iconic status of the Addams. Just like new Jumanji movies with Dwayne Johnson and Shane Black are just typical action movies that happened to be called Jumanji instead of being Jumanji. Also the YA tropes and its targeted teen audience prevent the series’ aesthetics to be too macabre or gothic in the vein Addams family’s and Tim Burton’s cinematography. But what bugs me the most is that it doesn't reinvent a classic, it combines all the clichés of the YA genre, it's literally the same plot as Hex Hall, a YA novel I read ten years ago, which is also about a “special” misfit teen who doesn’t know she has supernatural abilities and is sent to a secluded school in the middle of the forest for special children (witches, vampires, fairies, ect…) and ends up with a roommate who likes girly pink stuff. But mysterious murders are happening inside the school and she must find out about her family's origins to resolve them notably about a powerful female ancestor (Alice and Goodie). There is also a ball, a rivalry turned friendship with the queen-bee of the school and a love-triangle with one of her love-interests being revealed to be working for a human society who seeks to eradicate supernatural people from the world. I think the show is popular among people who like YA fantasy tropes and the trend never truly ended but YA fictions and their tendency to tone down everything had bored me over time, so that’s why I couldn’t find the show entertaining. Ortega was the best but I'm probably be the only one who didn't like the dance sequence (because of the song that didn't fit mostly but the setting and choregraphy didn't back up) and I like dance sequences, they're usually my favorite part, but I think that for a character like Wednesday I would have prefered something more in the vibe of Suspiria the remake than whatever it was in the show.

[@shanouboubou]

Can I say as a black person how much the debate between Weems and Wednesday about outcast and normie relationship hit close to home ? It was amazing

[@shanouboubou]

@@user-rh7ch6no2r well in many ways the normie & outcast relationship was a clear metaphor for white & POC history all over the world. It was simplified but at it's core the questions of what should we do about the centuries of abuse & mistreatment is something a lot of person are asking themselves in their lives. Retribution or Moving forward ? It's a hard one because there's a lot of anger on one side & a lot of misunderstanding on the other.

[@CaraRowen]

Yeah but then there's Morticia telling a black man that "men like you don't know what it's like not to be believed" like black men ain't been killed for the lies of white women since ever.

[@BandFairy]

So, someone on Tumblr pointed out that the Tyler leg of the love triangle was bad because it was supposed to be. He doesn't actually like her, he's just playing the part so he can keep an eye on her and report what she knows to Thornhill. Xavier's side was bad because they forgot to make him a character. Which is a bummer because I usually love a long lost childhood friend as a love interest. But the scene in the nurse's office, that part where he's walking with her in the rain and talking about his dad, and the scene where he catches her outside his studio are pretty much the only real bits of character we get from him. I feel like there were some story changes that happened mid production and that's why some characters feel flat. Like, they were so busy making sure that the girls were girl bossing, that they forgot to give the boys something to do.

[@RachaelTheRed]

As an Addams family fan, I absolutely loved Wednesday. I had the same issues with the finale as you expressed but my only other complaint was with Gomez and Morticia. I understand that the show is about Wednesday and not about them but they felt a little too watered down and not "Addams-y" enough. Both of their reactions to killing the Gates kid seemed kind of out of character. Like, the reactions were two normal for a family of sociopaths, killers, and societal outcasts. Also, while I enjoyed each of the actors in their roles individually I felt like they lacked chemistry/it came off as a bit forced. Other than those two characters I really enjoyed the show.

[@jamiedee2409]

I absolutely agree with you. This performance does not come close to the characters they had to portray. If they are really going to show more of the Family in upcoming seasons, I hope the writers are doing a proper job.

[@growingupwithdisney]

Maybe the canon in this show is that they’re not actually truly dark and close to evil, everyone just assumed they were, so they decided to just play the part. And because Wednesday only met them after they put on the entire dark persona, she actually is sorta like that

[@HVLong1]

Loved it. I grew up watching the original series in black and white re-runs, also seeing them show up on Scooby Doo cartoons, then later the movies with Raul Julia and Angelica Huston, Wednesday and Jenna Ortega are a welcome addition!!! And I am not a huge Tim Burton fan, but it really fits this story

[@lud3445]

I love the Addams family from the 90's movies, because they all deeply love and support each other in their own way, they are happy doing their own shit. What I didn't like from the recent versions (Wednesday and those animated movies) is that they put the family in stupid conflicts. "You need to do that traditional dance for the whole family" "I don't identity with my happy family, maybe I'm adopted", "we don't know what to do with you after you tried to kill your peers with piranhas" 90's Morticia and Gomez would give an A for effort and look for a school that better nurtured their little Venus trap. The 90's version was not only happy not conforming with social norms and expectations, they genuinely had no clue they were even there. They were always supportive of each other and never apologetic for being who they were. This version has Gomez and Morticia scared of the murder charges and visibly shaken from killing the stalker dude. Like, is this the same family who was 100% ok with _putting spiders in a piñata?_ I think because the conflict was the normies freaking out around the Addams family and not with the family members themselves (and I get it is a shtick that can get old fast, and you need to modernize it a bit), any inner conflict if not done right feels like they are ruining the characters. I really liked Wednesday and her inner conflict/character arc made sense and kept her still felling like an Addams. The parents and Uncle Fester thought...They felt so surface level, like people pretending to be them but not fully _being_ them, saying weird and cooky things but behaving like normal people.

[@drawingsticks5333]

1) Addams family wise: the show was not weird enough. I liked how they adapted the character but one of the important things with the Addams family is that they stand in contrast with mainstream society, usually for the better. They are weird and spooky and unhinged and a loving family and kind people. That's the joke. The joke was not here. Also... Wednesday's family kinda took a step back in weirdness but also Nevermore was pretty bland and it did not really look like a place where I can imagine Morticia and Gomez thrive? A good example for me is the blood scene in episode 4 - this a school full of vampires and werewolves and sirens. Why are they all panicking? Why everyone freaks out at every little things? Also the Addams are a very loving and caring family, so why do they let their children go to a school where they get bullied? Why don't enroll them directly at Nevermore? 2) Nevermore is not only bland but apparently everyone in Jericho hates them. Why does this school have no security? Why could EVERYONE break in and bully their students? WHY DIDN'T YOU DO YOUR JOB, GWENDOLINE CHRISTIE. 3) I have thoughts about how the show does the outcast/other theme. Too often it feels like window dressing.

[@reginehunter]

I agree that the show wasn’t weird enough. I loved the piranhas in the first scenes but nothing like that happened again.

[@luisasoto2750]

Thank you for putting into words what i was thinking. i adored how Jenna interpreted Wednesday, but the show was modeled to be a 'now' teen drama, and left on the side the reason why we love the addams family. They represent how being so weird, macabre and to be honest dangerous, doesn't mean they are not kind and loving, and that's kind of what i follow in my life. Anyway, i liked it. it was entertaining, but tha'ts it.

[@joellejohnson3503]

i agree so heavy like wednesday's family seemed so angry w her for being weird, when in the old movies they all were weird and accepted eachother ???

[@mophead_xu]

i forgot whose video was it that i watched that argued this, but the video essayist's argument for the whole addams family schtick is that their "weirdness" is supposed to come from them being a contrast against the contemporary social norms. in the original TV shows, they were open and appreciative towards cultural diversity and big family values in an age where the whole american nuclear family with suspicion towards "outsiders" was real strong. in the 90s movies, morticia and gomez's romance was amped up to 11 when the common portrayal of married spouses were lowkey hating each other and can barely tolerate one another. obviously in-text the whole family are oblivious to this oddity of theirs; that whole thing about being a contrast comes from out of universe influence, i.e. the writers. but that's the basic idea of it. i haven't watched the netflix show, but maybe that's part of what's missing? i mean, aside from just the other family members seem to not have that much presence in the whole 10 episodes. i don't know; i like that argument of the addams being whatever the current society isn't, but i guess it may be a bit harder to do in our modern age where there isn't necessarily an "alt" because with the rise of faster communication and social media and whatnot, the typical norms are a bit more frayed and not as dominating as they used to have been able to. this argument puts the addams' weirdness as a social critique, but when technically everyone gets an equal chance of being a weirdo, how are you going to write that?

[@SwiftNimblefoot]

Agreed. The main point of the Addamses is that they need to be contrasted with normal people. When Wednesday is a goth girl with psychic powers in a school full of monsters, she is just one of the many weird ones, and not special.

[@HigherSelfTarot]

The scene where Thing dies and they’re trying to revive him was the only scene in the show that MADE ME CRY 😭. It was *so* well done! Wednesday’s line about killing Thing if he dies was hilarious, yet incredibly touching as you see Wednesday still trying to cling to her unemotional persona whilst clearly devastated and in a vulnerable moment. Perfection 👌

[@zachjason1751]

Yeah I loved the acting in that scene from her. Its takes legit talent for a performer to show a character "breaking" but still have it clear they are portraying said character. Never felt like it wasn't Wednesday just letting her mask drop

[@justwonder1404]

Jenna's trembling lower lip finished me

[@UClf6NAwctxXiZbHT0J1-2-Q]

that scene is what influenced me to watch the show! Jenna smashed it

[@aedanroberts6822]

A: really hope it gets a renewal. B: Really hope they figure out SOME way to bring back Gwendoline Christie. I absolutely LOVED her in this and was EXTREMELY annoyed at her character's fate.

[@macsmith2013]

Minor nitpick: the monster's identity would have been harder to deduce if it hadn't the exact same hairstyle as you-know-who. Great show overall, can't wait for more.

[@shimlacy]

Your note comparing it to Sabrina remake was so spot on. I felt the same way. Sabrina was absued and used as a trope for gratuitous teen sex. She deserved better. I loved the casting of that show too. They all deserved better. This show is just about the best I've ever seen and I can't wait for next season. I hope they don't wait so many years between seasons!

[@leahmoore3226]

I feel like the plot line in episode 5 was somewhat relevant to the story because it introduced the Gates family, which then came back into play when it was revealed that the whole family didn't die off and Laurel was getting revenge on the people who wronged her family and trying to destroy all outcasts.

[@moofia]

Agreed. I don't really care about the boys role or storyline, but the girls?? come on give me more of Enid's self discovery, give me more of those siren girl secret powers that made her run away from home and her manipulative mother, and give me more of Wednesday like yasssss~~~ I really never thought I would like this show so much lol

[@matrm5113]

The opening with the song and Wednesday dancing is everything, love it!

[@emmac1398]

I definitely enjoyed it but for me the peak of Addams was the 90s movies with Angelica Houston and Christina Ricci. The 'healthy family dynamics while still being weird' aspect was so beautiful to watch. The Cinema Therapy video breakdown on it is so good. But I agree Jenna Ortiz did a phenomenal job and the show itself was very fun

[@neivilde.1242]

as a fan of the addams family,when i heard they were making this, and they announced time burton was attached, and jenna was playing Wednesday, this is pretty much EXACTLY what i pictured, aesthetics wise, story-wise, casting wise, my expectations were met. I never doubted jenna at all and always knew she would kill it, but i am SO GLAD that everyone agrees and everyone even if they didn't love the show, loved jenna's performance because she was truly a star. the overall mystery was pretty straight forward, but like you said there were enough layers that it kept me entertained. I will say, tyler being the hyde was not the surprising part, him being evil was, i was under the impression the hyde didn't know what it was doing, so when he was like haha surprise i was evil the whole time i was like oh no don't do that. i understand that being a teen show, they will have romance plotlines, like even if I don't care for it all the time, i understand it appeals to a big demographic, i was there in the trenches, i get it. i just really hoped that it being Wednesday addams, they would tone it down, or approach it differently. not to be that person also but Wednesday often read to me as aro/ace and i know she doesn't have to be, like its just me, but i just wish they didn't bother with it. It just baffled me how they gave her the blandest, most boring love interests, and the fact that they were both like "i thought you liked me" like babes she has not expressed anything to you??? why are you like this? tyler turns out it makes sense, but xavier has no reason like honey you need to chill out. It would've been nice if they kept any romance subplot to the side characters. i loved how everyone called out wednesday's behaviour and she had to apologize for her actions, more of that please. there are a few drinks to fix, but they have a lot of material for s2, stuff they already planted seeds for, like who's the new principal, or bianca and her cult, I'm so excited for that, and the stalker obviously. also i predict tyler coming back randomly mid season 2 for one episode to mess with Wednesday somehow. - sidenote, i really liked the cheesy joke that gorgons are called stoners, like please

[@Ace-xs2qe]

youre so real for your acearo wednesday headcanon. i always imagined her as either bi+ace or acearo bc i love rep. a lot of people have been shipping her w enid but i just really cant see it

[@neivilde.1242]

@@Ace-xs2qe yeah same, like if it happens, sure, but i really like the friendship they have and am not getting more vibes.

[@easilydistractedauthor]

When Tyler kissed Wednesday, I was like "Honey, it's okay if you're not into it. I feel like you're totally ace" and my husband was like "Not everyone is like you." So glad I'm not alone in that thought!

[@magicfeliuri2681]

Agreed

[@TopKing63]

You've probably been told this half a million times, but the reason the show worked so well was because Jenna Ortega had to go back and rewrite lines that the writers originally gave her. And Burton backed her. Today, Ortega is facing "fan backlash" or whatever because many think she, as an actor, should have just stayed out of the writers' room and just "did her job". They thought her rude and entitled. Basically, "shut up and dribble".

[@sophiag4518]

23:29 Gomez’s casting was one of my favorite parts of the first episode, I LOVE him. Pissed that ppl had a problem w it.

[@luiscalzoncit2820]

My main issue with this series is how they changed the fundamental point of the Addams family. The Addams family was supposed to be a satire of the American family back then. The Addams were everything a normal family is not. They where creepy, goth, spooky and bizarre in their appearance and behaviour. But they also were a super healthy and loving family with emotional maturity and great communication. So by introducing the damaged relationship between Morticia and Wednesday they really messed it up for me. The og Wednesday wouldn't have any trouble with her parents even as a teenager. Don't @ me. That was the point of the family. Second, the main comedy source comes from the juxtaposition between the Addams and the normal society. So when they mention the supernatural school with monsters it was weird. Also, if they are vampires, gorgons, werewolves and such, why nobody accepts Wednesday spooky nature? I liked Jenna Ortega's performance for the most part. But she doesn't quite reach the deadpan tone Ricci gave us. Jenna seems mad, Ricci was disinterested. Anyway once I understood this was meant to be an alternate take on the Addams family finally enjoyed the series.

[@michaeladkins6]

Altogether ookie

[@Noa......]

So, not a refreshing and original take on Addams family and the character of Wednesday. Got ya.

[@luiscalzoncit2820]

@@Noa...... I am not sure what you meant. But yeah. It is not a refreshing new take if it goes against everything the original is.

[@Noa......]

@@luiscalzoncit2820 If it follows the original, it would be a mere attempt of a copy. And hence, not refreshing.

[@luiscalzoncit2820]

@@Noa...... Since you seem to keep using that word, let's see: -A teenager in conflict with same gender parent -A teenager transering to a new school and thir struggle to adapt ( A magical school at that) -A love triangle between a semmingly nice guy and a tortured and mysterious artist. -A "mean" girl who we turned into our ally. -The cringe best friend who is the opposite to our main character. -A very predictable plot twist. So no, there is actually nothing refreshing in here, it essentially any supernatural teen drama with the Addams name attached. Once I accepted that, I managed to like it. It would have been refreshing if the writers managed to inject life to the franchise without ignoring everything said franchise is.

[@RagenNikole]

As an Elder Millenial and an Addams Family fan, I absolutely loved this iteration of an Addams story. I loved Enid and her oppositeness to Wednesday. I cried when Thing was hurt and Enid wolfed out. I really hope netflix does not cancel like they did The Midnight Club and First Kill.

[@dzemjo]

i think season 2 is confirmed

[@lory31311]

@@dzemjo It’s not, but they’ll probably renew it

[@UClf6NAwctxXiZbHT0J1-2-Q]

it being renewed for a second season is almost a surefire thing, i think most people were pleasantly surprised

[@lory31311]

@@UClf6NAwctxXiZbHT0J1-2-Q It surpassed Stranger Things in terms of hours watched on Netflix, so it's basically a sure thing

[@mophead_xu]

the midnight club got cancelled?????????????? as in, the midnight club made by the same creator of the haunting of anthology series??

[@j.alexanderyates3129]

Hello, it's me, one of the others who has gotten really into the Addams family due to this show. Loved it the whole way through (actually Enid was one of my faves, I felt she did a great job highlighting how weird her surroundings are). One thing that a lot of people bring up is that the Addams family are meant to be a counterpoint to America's dysfunctional but aesthetically pleasing expectations of family; they are kind and loving towards each other, and their humor and drama derive not from family disputes but from outsiders not understanding them. This has occasionally been levied as a criticism of Wednesday, as the tense relationship between Wednesday and Morticia seems to run counter to that thread. However, I think their relationship is well founded here, even as a departure. After all, Wednesday is 15 in the show, and she is trying to prove her independence. Yet, right when she most wants to be independent them, Wednesday is forced to rely on her parents pulling strings to keep her out of legal trouble. Though it is a loving act, it severely hampers Wednesday's ability to act independently from them, which would naturally put a strain on their relationship. I feel like, read with this context in mind, Wednesday becomes a nice successor to the earlier Addams installments. Wednesday is growing up, and as such is going through the same stages of life we all do. Rather than shy away from that, the show embraces the change, and seeks to understand it. Then, as Wednesday matures over the course of her investigations, she gains the perspective needed to appreciate the core of love which is central to the Addams family.

[@kateealer7]

Jenna actually re-wrote a lot of her lines. That's what made Wednesday as good as it was.

[@passiveaggresivesquirrel2052]

I think that aside from the aesthetic of the movie, Jenna Ortega is a massive boost to the shows quality, holy shit this woman plays so well. Edit: I watched your video further to the point of you mentioning Ortega, and yeah holy cheesus she is litterally Wednesday, its like she is not playing at this point. I have a massive crush on Jenna herself and her Wednesday's performance.

[@Hazeljv3]

I totally agree about the romance plot - it could have been completely cut and the show probably would have been better for it. Also, as an asexual, I feel like it would make so much sense for Wednesday to be aro-ace, and that is the only glaring missed opportunity for the character I really noticed. (Although, I would have settled for Jenna Ortega's ideal romance of Wednesday and Enid lol)

[@linguotgr]

Possible unpopular take here, but I think most of the praise this show gets is 100% because of Jenna’s performance. The show itself is pretty below average, but her performance is legendary and elevates everything that on its own is pretty bad. The whole show centers around a mystery that no one bothers solving which gets revealed entirely through deus ex machina visions. It’s a love triangle with two bad, boring options. I have a theory that this was a completely unrelated script that got adapted to the Addams Family. Just a few too many plot lines that felt out of character, like how Wednesday was mad that Gomez was possibly a killer, or hell, that Wednesday Addams is in a love triangle.

[@breej1643]

Three points. Jenna Ortega is amazing. Enid being the "Hyde" instead would've been a thousand times better, no matter how it ended. And I'm thrilled probably more than the average person should be that this show has brought you one step closer back to Tim Burton. 😁❤

[@realestsienna]

that would’ve been cool but i feel like that would’ve been basic and cliche.

[@breej1643]

@@realestsienna Can't argue with that. But it still would've possibly been more entertaining than the boring love interest. At least in my opinion.

[@realestsienna]

@@breej1643 i agree 😭 i don’t care about tyler either