Weekly Quest Updates: Blizzard Kills Hearthstone's Progression System!

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@sgpiegp4rt831
@sgpiegp4rt831 Ай бұрын
HS is in a weird state right now. On the 10th anniversary no less
@gurunext
@gurunext Ай бұрын
The most unstable and broken state ever...
@chrisrod118
@chrisrod118 Ай бұрын
Hopefully, this is just a weird tween phase
@stm8827
@stm8827 Ай бұрын
More like the 4ht aniversary from the death of HS.
@gurunext
@gurunext Ай бұрын
@@chrisrod118 Nah across the internet there's rug pulls (big cash grabs of failing projects) - even Mrwhosetheboss talked about predatory subscriptions and surely Microsoft is gonna get progressively shady as it's threatened by AI innovations
@user-om3uy3bx9k
@user-om3uy3bx9k Ай бұрын
The easiest way to describe: they have no respect for the time of their players. The "time" is a most valuable coin, than money.
@narananas7671
@narananas7671 Ай бұрын
Time is money, friend!
@oshinoedan5666
@oshinoedan5666 Ай бұрын
There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen.
@gurunext
@gurunext Ай бұрын
Like that time when I discovered how to use a microtransactions (i mean microwave)
@Aeirion
@Aeirion Ай бұрын
And then there's Tigress Plushy, which took years off me.
@gurunext
@gurunext Ай бұрын
@@Aeirion Lifesteal in general is disgusting, but Hearthstone is PLAGUED with problems - you can't talk about just ONE, or ONE CARD anymore... it's a whole philosophy
@kolst
@kolst Ай бұрын
@@gurunext The weird thing is the recent philosophy feels like they take the list of lessons learned of what NOT to do as their instruction manual for how to design new cards...
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips Ай бұрын
achievement exp rewards should not be time limited.
@marleonka.
@marleonka. Ай бұрын
I think they did stop locking them out, since you can still can get XP for the Badlands achievements
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips Ай бұрын
@@marleonka. lets make all remaining achievements retro-re-active... EXP across all sets.
@marcellosouzabeltrao9257
@marcellosouzabeltrao9257 Ай бұрын
@@marleonka. but dont pick rewards of titans our the festival of legends
@zyella277
@zyella277 Ай бұрын
Id rather they not give any exp at al ever. and just put that exp into quests/regular play exp
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips Ай бұрын
@@zyella277 interesting. I like this idea.
@LordZanba
@LordZanba Ай бұрын
These weekly quest updates are definitely at the expense of a player's own value. Overall, our rewards for the time we put into the game have depreciated. In short, Blizzard now values our time less. An argument I have heard a few times against pushback to the changes is, "You are earning more XP/reward/etc. for completing weekly tasks than you were before, so why complain?" As many have shown (including in this video), the compensation does not match the increase in effort by a wide margin. Furthermore, while it is an increase in rewards, some neglect to see the threshold for not completing the weekly quest(s) and receiving *no* reward has also significantly increased. I imagine most of us play because we like the game, but we cannot always dedicate so much time to doing things we like, and our various hobbies may compete for the hours we do set aside for them. One suggestion I have seen floating around in response to this is to uninstall/refuse to play the game until the change is reversed. I believe this is no longer good enough as it sets the precedent of Blizzard being able to test the waters with worse changes for the player base at absolutely no risk to themselves. To those this negatively impacts, which should be basically everyone, I suggest we do not play until we see an *increase* in the rewards to effort ratio, and with quests of reasonable requirements as they once were, or a tiered completion system where lower tiers will reward the player with the same or better compensation and completion requirements as before the weekly quest updates. Anything less and we will see the same thing happen again. I have said it elsewhere and I will say it again: If a game begins to feel like more of a chore than fun, I will drop it as I have done several others. I value my time too much.
@blueblitzblaze
@blueblitzblaze Ай бұрын
Brilliant comment
@Orisha1990
@Orisha1990 Ай бұрын
We'll see how brilliant the strategy is when I stop playing like I did 6 years ago until last November when I decided to check out the game again. I doubt I'm the only one who will dip out if the game starts feeling like a chore fest which punishes you for playing casually. Short term gain at the expense of the game dying in the long term doesn't seem very brilliant to me.
@marleonka.
@marleonka. Ай бұрын
If you're this casual of a player that you dont win 15 games throughout the course of a week (but apprently still complete daily quests, which would also require to play games?), how do you expect to get rewards? As much as we would want that to be the cast, you cant really get everything for free just for playing 1 game a month
@NOveXoR
@NOveXoR Ай бұрын
​@@marleonka.Stopped playing for a while now, but before I was that type of a casual player and had no problem getting most of what I wanted
@7jc1rr9
@7jc1rr9 Ай бұрын
@@marleonka. you could complete most dailies with duels, that requires very little time since the first duels are so short and you can fill the deck with quest requirements now that can't be done AND the quests are harder + who are you or they to tell people what to play or whether or not it inconveniences them. If it doesn't bother you great but these changes screw over a large segment of the player base enough that a bunch will quit or just play battlegrounds
@84traveler
@84traveler Ай бұрын
​​@@marleonka.​I will lose the game gradually if this change sticks. Been playing HS for 10 years casually and the last 6-years mainly only doing quests and collecting cards. I have no time to up my play time since I have a busy life as well, but also feel like why should I, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. The last quest reqs were fine so this not a wise decision imo.
@jims7773
@jims7773 Ай бұрын
@marleonka5578 with how much they're charging for a pre order only 60ish packs for like $70 and you're lucky to get 3 or 4 legendaries that you have to pray are viable before they go to wild. If you want to disenchant those legendaries for a meta one you'll need to disenchant 4 to make 1.... not even including epics and with how highlander decks are viable now you're most likely needing more epics and legendaries to be a top tier deck. So why can't we want more free rewards? Why should we have to spend almost $100 every 4 months to be able to make 1 or 2 meta decks praying they don't get nerfed and those epics and legendaries we crafted or got lucky enough to pull to make those decks useless because 2 commons or rares got changed? I'd love to know
@whoeveruwantittobe
@whoeveruwantittobe Ай бұрын
You raise an interesting point that this change significantly diminishes some players willingness to play control decks.
@kayfimt7769
@kayfimt7769 Ай бұрын
Duels was my favourite mode, the quest change means I need to double the time I play, and the 10th anniversary gifts were pathetic. I have stopped playing for the first time in nine years.
@jakimiku
@jakimiku Ай бұрын
I see almost no posts talking about the _price_ of the game (gold or packs) going drastically up. In HS there is virtually no difference between rewards xp and gold (thus packs), so raising the requirements for quests or lowering the acquirement of xp is the equivalent of raising the cost of packs. This is the _only_ reason for Blizzard to do this, not 'player engagement' or whatever nonsense they're trying to sell this with. Increase of cost, end of. For free to play players, this is a real spit in the face.
@PunxsutawneyDave
@PunxsutawneyDave Ай бұрын
I'm the type of person who always purchased the larger bundle each season. Because my job situation changed I went from free to play to tiny whale, I guess. I also always purchased the reward track upgrade thing. I also complete every one of my daily and weekly quests. The thing is I don't play on ladder. It's too frustrating and I'm just not good enough, so I was overjoyed when I found out my best friend plays as well. We play each other to finish quests. He is strictly free to play and even though we are roughly the same skill level I end up winning most of our games because I have better cards. But we still have fun. I've noticed that at the end of the reward track I usually have around 8000 gold and he has 5000. I used money to buy mini sets and he uses gold. Hearthstone, despite its faults, was always fun for us. But I'm just tired of this direction their heading. I don't think I'm going to spend any more money on them. I'll still play but I'll save all my gold for new sets (not the mini sets) and just ride it out until the game folds. Maybe I'll find a new game to play with my friend. (just not Marvel Snap)
@scorpogee6280
@scorpogee6280 Ай бұрын
I stopped spending on the bundles 3 years ago. Now it's saving all the gold to buy anywhere between 80 - 100 packs. The only money spent is on Battlegrounds. Ranked is nothing more than a grind. I'm at Plat 5 and it's move two steps forward then two steps back. It also sucks that you can't get dust normal/gold cards. 2 normal and 2 gold but you can only use two in a deck. The other is nothing more than eye candy. Also being a casual player I don't spend 4 - 5+ hours of my life staring at the computer screen. I'm retired and I have things like house cleaning and such since my wife can't do much if she has to use a walker just to get around the house. Most of these "dedicated" players are on Twitch trying to make a name for themselves while hoping people will sub to them so they don't need an actual job. The Rune Stone system is a joke considering if you want to use "that" type of currency you'll still have to use actual money to purchase them. The developers must think we are so stupid to pull stunts like this.
@Pinhead64
@Pinhead64 Ай бұрын
HS mathematics are absolutely standing on business and I love it
@caro5788
@caro5788 Ай бұрын
I personally feel that since the Microsoft acquisition, the monetization and predatory design patterns have gotten worse 😢
@Croutonking65
@Croutonking65 Ай бұрын
If the xp gain was like double what it used to be, I think people would be able to swallow the weekly’s being 3 times as long.
@giancaferror5400
@giancaferror5400 Ай бұрын
Well if you get 5000 points for 15 win in ranked It would be kinda good. Before you could get 5500 exp for 3 challenges so you could tecnically get a lot more exp completing only 2 challenges this way. But for now is bad af
@mlekocokolada2816
@mlekocokolada2816 Ай бұрын
The downfall of HS 😢
@gurunext
@gurunext Ай бұрын
Rise of everyone else (I'll personally tip my had to ES legends)
@michaelj8647
@michaelj8647 Ай бұрын
The downfall of the industry 😣
@MB-xj8le
@MB-xj8le Ай бұрын
I am a pretty active player who reaches Legend every season. But this week I started doing my quests differently. For instance the Mini-Quest, I build a deck with only Miniturize Minions and Draw cards and hop into Casual Mode, draw cards, play minis, when my hand is empty I concede and queue another game. Fuck blizzard for this
@sodapopinksi667
@sodapopinksi667 Ай бұрын
I always do that. Been doing it for years. I have specific wild sudoku decks for different classes. It's rare that I do quests on ladder except the win 5.
@lemonsquidsec
@lemonsquidsec Ай бұрын
The real issue is that missing a week is much more punishing than it used to be, not that it takes more time. Missing a week means it will take 4-5 weeks to break even compared to the old system. That feels really bad. A tiered rewards system would be ideal, so that missing a week doesn't feel so bad and playing every week rewards you more for your activity.
@Zakading
@Zakading Ай бұрын
3:45 "An emergency patch that will make the rewards balanced" lmfao yeah right. To nobody's surprise, they just reduced it from a 300% increase to a 200% one, which is still absolutely fucking insulting.
@TicoDK
@TicoDK Ай бұрын
And I always re-rolled miniaturize quest because was impossible to complete at 15 LUL But was kinda easy to get a decent collection, I play 4days max/week and dont get more than platinum 10. I have 11k extra gold, all decks I want (3/4) and don't even need to dust wild cards.
@Rorrojas
@Rorrojas Ай бұрын
Im so sad that this happened.... Moreover, the fact that this channel put so much love and effort in letting us know the true intentions of Blizzard, i hope you guys dont die because of it, i really love your content ❤😢
@darkoshadowfury
@darkoshadowfury Ай бұрын
If blizz want short term profits so bad why don't they put better deals in the store?
@SCARaw
@SCARaw Ай бұрын
why they wanna kill progression on 15 year old game?
@anthonyfamularo8875
@anthonyfamularo8875 Ай бұрын
I played at least one game (but usually several) of HS every single day for ten full years, or 3600+ days in a row. I've been loving Duels lately, and had no idea it was being deleted until last week. This is the fourth day of my new streak: Days WITHOUT playing any HS at all. This isn't because of some rage-induced boycott; it's because I wasn't having fun any more. Anyway, if any of you don't know what the sunk-cost fallacy is, please look it up, and don't let it guide your decisions. (Note: If Duels were reinstated, I would resume playing the game this afternoon.)
@Ord3ith
@Ord3ith Ай бұрын
very weird: I was just going for the “Win 15 games of Tavern Brawl/Arena/Battlegrounds” quest, and after my 10th Tavern Brawl win, the quest completed. I wonder if this is a bug or they changed it.
@Tomi97_videos
@Tomi97_videos Ай бұрын
they changed it.
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips Ай бұрын
I am very upset that Duels mode was removed.
@zbengman
@zbengman Ай бұрын
Bro what? No way....
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips Ай бұрын
@@zbengman like totally for real
@ClarkHellscream
@ClarkHellscream Ай бұрын
1:00 "am big ass" Bot is THICC
@blueblitzblaze
@blueblitzblaze Ай бұрын
This was the true message they wanted to convey all along, glad someone listened
@ljukler
@ljukler Ай бұрын
One of the main problems that nobody talks is that most of times quests doesnt complete in same time - for example spending mana and dealing damage is easy, but makings wins in ranked and using so huge amount of minis in same time is imposible. Most of the good decks does not even use minis or if there are minis they are just two copies of one card. This means that we have to make decks with maximum amount of minis only and play unranked, because we cant win with them, The older minis quest version required minimum 2 games to do it with 5 times lesser amount of minies. In daily quest also we have terrible ones - like playing murlocs, that are not use in a single good deck in standard and wild atm. Cant believe how greedy and incompetent same time are people in Hearthstone/Microsoft.
@mirmoyashi12
@mirmoyashi12 Ай бұрын
Hearthstone is my "After uni" relaxation game, I love to jump in two or three games, get a few missions done and go on with my day as I have stuff to do, getting to win 5 games was just enough games to get my rewards, but 15 is excessive, I don't play this game daily. The more I play these live services games, the more I realize time is a valuable thing, when I was a kid with so much free time I didn't mind waiting a day or two for new missions and do stuff on some games, but now as an adult, you just don't have the luxury of waiting. This is just predatory, and I don't think the Microsoft adquisition wouldn't fix any of these type of things, if Blizzard was already making money in their own way, enough money to get Microsoft interested, they'll continue this monetization scheme or make it worse.
@Trefort90
@Trefort90 Ай бұрын
Guys, this season is the first season I play HS since 2016. I don't understand the discussion about quests. For example when I get a Q to play mini cards+battlecry, I just fill my deck mini+battlecry+draw low mana cards. I choose the casual mode, play this random deck for max. 30min including the time I spent on the deck creation while watching my favourite TV series on another screen and the weekly quests are done. (ofc, I lose all the casual matches, but I don't even try to win)
@lastsinnersa8002
@lastsinnersa8002 Ай бұрын
The real motive is engagement metrics and how they get misinterpreted. This channel, Rarran and Thijs are the only things that I keep track of Hearthstone for now. 2023 had more people playing because 2022 was three good sets after a miserable 2021, combined with three more good ones in 2023. Control Warrior, Zarimi Priest and Shopper DH are not things I find remotely fun.
@lydierayn
@lydierayn 19 күн бұрын
As somebody who always completed the weekly quests on monday, and have no weekly quests constantly, I'd love it to not be gatekept between weeks. I'd love to have at least one quest constantly. Like how the event trackt works.
@callisto
@callisto Ай бұрын
They're basically culling out their casual player base
@DamianPereyraHs
@DamianPereyraHs Ай бұрын
Yeah yeah, it's a predatory plan for etc etc etc... But in the end, it's just fair and square stupidity, they blew up the game: sink player base, go to ovlivion new BGs mode, create a really hostile ambient. A shoot on his own foot. For fun. 👌🏽
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips
@TheOriginalCaptainTrips Ай бұрын
this week's Tavern Brawl is Top 2. WILL SOMONE BEAT MY WORLD RECORD OF 300 TAVERN BRAWL WINS????
@przemczykczytarzeczy8526
@przemczykczytarzeczy8526 Ай бұрын
Blizzard must umderstand what a casual player is in essence. They had a system which basically cause thirst for more grinding but they forfeit it in expense for players which are more interested whatsoever. That's gonna blow back... It's a matter of time.
@OrdemDoGraveto
@OrdemDoGraveto Ай бұрын
The conflict is NOT solved. The requirements are still too high.
@chrisrod118
@chrisrod118 Ай бұрын
This might just me being paranoid, they may have done this to divert the hate of losing duels mode.
@grumpykitten4890
@grumpykitten4890 Ай бұрын
Now that i think about it i think i got a tavern ticket when they axed duels and that was it. I usually get a pack at the very least. Maybe my memory is going to the dumpster.
@tigermafia870
@tigermafia870 Ай бұрын
I thought a lot about stopping playing HS, but I couldn't stop because I've been playing for 10 years (i'm f2p player with 100k dust). But with the new expansion (boring reskins, nothing new good ideas...) I stopped playing HS, in return my life is much more balanced. Go guys!!!
@derangedcomics
@derangedcomics Ай бұрын
I consider myself a "regular" player at present. (It's fluctuated more or less over the years.) But even I don't want to do these dailies.
@yuriserigne5524
@yuriserigne5524 Ай бұрын
last week was the first one in 10 years where i was unable to complete any weekly quest. 32 minis, 75 battlecries and 10 wins were not possible after hours of playing. i am really thinking about quitting because this would mean the end of progressing. 100% f2p casual player, standard only and mostly playing less than 1h daily just to not lose any quest rewards (until now). usually reaching gold 10 or 5. also the matchmaking is worse than ever, my winrate is currently about 20% while my opponents are not getting weaker after 10 losses in a row... i had 7 bonus stars (second time to be higher than gold 5) and had around 50 losses (just a guess, didn't count) until 6 bonus stars. if i ever seem to finally be winning, my opponent concedes and steals the fun. another reason to quit.
@AleksaBleja
@AleksaBleja Ай бұрын
Bro you are dogshit at the game thats all xD
@user-bs8hq6bc6e
@user-bs8hq6bc6e Ай бұрын
after removing hundreds of thousands of bots they decided to use quests to force players to play hours and hours more, they doubled the amount of requirements and wrote a patch for when everyone was sure to react, adjusting it to still unreasonable changes. The most disgusting stunt in the game so far
@tatimc6581
@tatimc6581 Ай бұрын
Quit the game during badlands launch, doesn't seem likely I'll ever return at this point
@Joeballs187
@Joeballs187 Ай бұрын
I give up I'm done
@IgnisNatus
@IgnisNatus Ай бұрын
"Never give up!.. Run away! " 😅
@LordNEG
@LordNEG Ай бұрын
As a player since Closed Beta and Hearthstone being my 'hour a day during dinner' game I can safely say the new model means I quit. There are days where I gain no wins towards dailies and the average Battlegrounds last 25-40mins. People point out easier methods of finishing dailies, but the point should be to be able to play how you want, have fun, and still feel rewarded. No amount of exp is worth the extra time asked by this new system. Tiering or making it work like battlegrounds quests won't make it feel better, either. Not saying the design was perfect, far from it, but it worked.
@arnoldbreuer
@arnoldbreuer Ай бұрын
This is why I have a second account: to challenge myself and play all the cards needed to complete the tasks. And I also use it for deck build testing. Sometimes even comes in handy for the tavern brawl.
@Ttangko_
@Ttangko_ Ай бұрын
I'm a returning OG player (last expansion I played was old gods). Thanks for the feedback from everyone here. I will stay f2p, since they made the economy worse. I thought with all rewards track and catch up packs, the game finally was more accessible and I was willing to buy the 10€ "1x catchup pack+1x classic pack". Well guess I'm waiting how the feedback will change the economy, since everyone seems clearly pissed. After that I will consider investing money again
@Ttangko_
@Ttangko_ Ай бұрын
*Lich King/Kobolds and catacombs were the expansions I moved away
@skromnyprezes
@skromnyprezes Ай бұрын
I'd love to witness the casual HS meeting and hear the reasons of such a bad policy towards your clients, I can imagine Dr. Boom taking another aim to ultimately destroy the game in front of Blizzard crew xD
@psychoinferno4480
@psychoinferno4480 Ай бұрын
Fun fact: the istore allows refunds for some reason. Source: a random post in reddit
@Shadovvwithoutbody
@Shadovvwithoutbody Ай бұрын
They should make different tiers for those quests. 1/1 same as it was, 1/2 50% more effort 30% more rewards, 1/3 100% more effort for 50% more rewards. Or something like this. I'm a WoW player, I play hs when a good expension comes out. With this amount of time requirment it won't worth my time. Even if I will have then I will have to make a deck to complete the quests as fast as possible then auto concede.
@gurunext
@gurunext Ай бұрын
How are you pumping the video without waiting for overall information to develop??? Wait he did? 👀 I am impressed
@HearthstoneMathematics
@HearthstoneMathematics Ай бұрын
As for me, new post from developers confirm my conclusions. I didn't expect the change in quest conditions to be so small, but I'm not surprised. They don't want to go back on their decision in full, even despite criticism from the players, which means they definitely have a reason to implement these changes.
@kickassez
@kickassez Ай бұрын
i play since the beginning. now they reduced their 300% to 200%, still want to quit playing hs now.. but if the battle pass can be completed with the daily quests only, its not too bad. is it confirmed if this is possible or not?
@mathieucoulon6627
@mathieucoulon6627 Ай бұрын
Sorry but I don't understand why you're upset about this modifications. I mean, actually weekly quests are completed on monday or thuesday without thinking about it even a second. Winning 15 games in a week drive you to win at least 2 games / Day... + one. We just don't get any attention on them, and I think that regular/ daily players deserve an advantage, even a small one. With à 50% WR decks it means playing 4 games a, representing around 30min in game / day (less with aggro decks, more with control...). At the end it won't change anything for regular players, we stil manage to achieve every quests on time, but with more ressources for the new expansion. At the end we speak about 8-10 additionnals packs, with means 1 or 2 epics cards end 1 legendary with Luck, or 1 epic and full dust without (so enough to craft another epic at least). Always good to take. And if you play so few that you don't completed every quests, you won't have all the free ressources... just part of it. Seems faire enough for me
@amauryfages6386
@amauryfages6386 Ай бұрын
Problem is "regular players" think they are regular while actually they are just scrub in sofa, no career, no wife, no children (but themselves), no realistic healthy life. Playing every day is an "unwanted" criteria for any healthy life (and any wife/partner). I play other games too, don't want to be a slave to weekly chore, there are other not dark patterns. Problem is, since I'm rich because I'm a hard worker, I pay, but even while paying if you do'nt have time to complete weeklies with only few hours a week, you can't grow PAID reward track. Which is a very very bad chess move.
@bpbp7407
@bpbp7407 Ай бұрын
lmao it said " win 15 battle grounds" and i lost my mind
@TrimutiusToo
@TrimutiusToo Ай бұрын
Settled? I mean they changed 15 to 10 which is still a lot... I will complete it anyway... But if it takes too much time i will just uninstall...
@WeeWeeJumbo
@WeeWeeJumbo Ай бұрын
welcome to Microsoft Gaming, everybody.
@dingolord9148
@dingolord9148 Ай бұрын
I think simply, 300% more work for 20% more reward is terrible and they knew. Means they are deciding to be blatantly predatory for terrible reasoning. The execs clearly don’t care about this wonderful game and it makes me sad
@DrKirath
@DrKirath Ай бұрын
After playing Marvel Snap for half a year, I really appreciate the monetization and rewards of Hearthstone much more. Players unsatisfied with the rewards in Hearthstone should try to build anything close to competitively viable in Snap without paying (or having started at launch). I'm making the comparison because I think as a free to play game, it needs to be evaluated in the context of its competitors. I found the changes to the weekly quests in Hearthstone a bit excessive, but the reaction by the community on Reddit was way over the top. The game is doing well, so I don't know why people are acting as if the game were close to failing.
@BruceChutbackSR
@BruceChutbackSR Ай бұрын
So because another game has a bad system, everyone should appreciate a game with a little less bad system? Got it.
@tsundude4320
@tsundude4320 Ай бұрын
Blizzard forgetting what April fools is
@amauryfages6386
@amauryfages6386 Ай бұрын
They absolutely have no respect. While I see how it can bring dynamic to the game and more statistics matchup because players are willing to play more in ranked, I have only a few to spare on this game for fun. It will be hard for me to keep up, because "I'm CTIO bitch, not a grub on a sofa".
@MCKZD
@MCKZD Ай бұрын
Hs client just changed to shop. I only play bgs since IT came out
@GunnuX
@GunnuX Ай бұрын
Correct the dialogue: conversation between developers and a small group of legendary players or highly successful streams. Until today. you don't read what users of your games write on the official forum !!
@tylerbacoka4248
@tylerbacoka4248 Ай бұрын
This very much needs to be talked about, because it's not the only game, it's almost all of them. Most fps right now are battlepass or bust. Its twisted taking actual skill from players to help timmy wallet never lose a game even if he's a trash newb. Heathstone has always been somewhat rigged but omg what it looks like now. As a wild player I can contest it doesn't function, blizz planned that as well.
@miltonlost138
@miltonlost138 Ай бұрын
I vote for weaponized incompetence on Blizzard's part. I have both a paid account and a FTP account. The meta was preventing me from having fun for about 80% of the past year, so I was strongly considering dropping the game entirely at rotation. The set looked like a lot of fun and it has actually been decent for the most part. Changing the weekly quests has killed my motivation to play on either account right now. I was sitting on the fence about leaving the game, and they might have just pushed me over the edge. In their greed, they have probably lost both my money and my engagement on 2 accounts.
@ThreshAllden
@ThreshAllden Ай бұрын
Who cares how much gold they give you when you can’t buy shit with it Most of the things in the store cost real money
@Lu-KN
@Lu-KN Ай бұрын
12:00 IMO options B, C & D
@markovucetic6797
@markovucetic6797 Ай бұрын
Hmmm. The 15 wins quest doesnt give me 3000 exp but 2250
@hybridwafer
@hybridwafer Ай бұрын
Different quests. 15 Ranked wins is 3000. 15 wins in tavern brawl/arena/BGs is 2250.
@user-vt1ec9yi6e
@user-vt1ec9yi6e Ай бұрын
Please fix this - in video it shows +8500 gold.
@vecsia3811
@vecsia3811 Ай бұрын
this was the best expansion to quit hearthstone, glad i don't have to put up with this BS... I encourage others to do the same. Good Luck everyone!
@yourmomma7869
@yourmomma7869 Ай бұрын
Am I the only one who just makes special decks solely to complete the quests in a couple rounds?
@francorkun5596
@francorkun5596 Ай бұрын
I have 2 accounts and had no problem completing my quest, people are just lazy. This change is good.
@shocknawe
@shocknawe Ай бұрын
"Never give up...! Run awaaaaaay!"
@gurunext
@gurunext Ай бұрын
I think Hearthstone has 60 problems and someone has talk about all of them in one hour
@oriolbassols1128
@oriolbassols1128 Ай бұрын
To complete the new semanal quests it would take me about a month. So I decided to left the game.
@narayanafry3314
@narayanafry3314 Ай бұрын
Why don't they just let you roll for a far easier quest?
@byronsotirispetrakis9470
@byronsotirispetrakis9470 Ай бұрын
for me it's not a problem if give 3X xp for the effort not 20% extra xp
@Litematter73
@Litematter73 23 күн бұрын
Have played since the start. I dont want to play hearthstone as much as they’re asking lol. Now it just feels like some sick homework assignment. Definitely playing less and will probably stop all together. Oh well was a good time.
@symraynor
@symraynor Ай бұрын
As long as there are people (also called "whales") who will buy anything HS offers them, only to then complain that the game is predatory -cough cough Zeddy- this game will always be less respectful of its own users.
@theresamariethompson3121
@theresamariethompson3121 Ай бұрын
I can't get over how funny it is to hear these characters say such angry words in their cheerful cartoon voices. They're right though.
@sodapopinksi667
@sodapopinksi667 Ай бұрын
I wish I could remember which episode it was, but there is one where the Reporter just goes ballistic on Mathbot. Like Samuel L. In Pulp Fiction. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger. It was hilarious.
@EzioAuditore1500
@EzioAuditore1500 Ай бұрын
i just logged on hearthstone and saw the quests. Completely and utter shit, what a drag
@badipaddress
@badipaddress Ай бұрын
I'm glad I've stopped playing HS last year.
@jare3459
@jare3459 Ай бұрын
how hard is it to make the quest this simple? Weakly give you gold/points...and daily battle pass points.
@alexkarassavidis3023
@alexkarassavidis3023 Ай бұрын
Blizzard is just mad I'm sitting on 12k gold.
@StrangerX9
@StrangerX9 Ай бұрын
I fucking hate Hearthstone right now! They made us re earn cards we have had for years and had golden copies of them by moving them to Legacy. So I had to re earn those cards, on top of this season of toys which is so tone deaf as some of their players have been playing for 10 years (me). Then they spring these super long quests which reward about the same points when you can complete them, this is predatory and just a desperate attempt to drive up engagement.
@Thing-vc2qm
@Thing-vc2qm Ай бұрын
This 15 wins a week makes the game a lot less fun. When I'm loading the game I hope to have fun and relax regardless of losses or wins. Now this just a chore. I don't think I will keep on playing there's no way I can spend this much time on the game.
@aspeakgaming3564
@aspeakgaming3564 Ай бұрын
Before I could easily complete the free game pass gaining around 8k gold. They made it harder so players cant reach this and will be forced to pay packs to get some good legendaries or be able to craft 1 good deck. Blizzard is a disgrace not one cent anymore for this shitty company
@nosiderathsilvercross5721
@nosiderathsilvercross5721 Ай бұрын
Honestly when I enter into the game im slowly losing interest in it at the point that only money could be the difference for me to have some fun
@1234bcadlog
@1234bcadlog Ай бұрын
i have decided to not play anymore, although buying both bundles for the past 4 expansion, this is too disrespectful to players smh
@Blackmallowtube
@Blackmallowtube Ай бұрын
Hey HS, let us know how making your employees work 120 hours per week and pay them 20% more turns out for you.
@amauryfages6386
@amauryfages6386 Ай бұрын
This is already the case, welcome in the world buddy. If you want more money in a business company (and every are), you need to pay your price a lot before getting recognized as an exponential golden seat position ;). That's how business work. Not talking about bulshit jobs that can bring more while not contributing to GIP and industry...
@urdimsum7961
@urdimsum7961 Ай бұрын
Welp, I was thinking about coming back but nvm I guess.
@bpbp7407
@bpbp7407 Ай бұрын
im not playing HS again until they change it. Legend player here btw.
@whoeveruwantittobe
@whoeveruwantittobe Ай бұрын
I fear this is Microsoft's way of saying HS aint making enough money. We need more revenue or we will cancel it. And the devs doing things against their will to save their baby.
@Heatranoveryou
@Heatranoveryou Ай бұрын
you said 850 and showed 8500
@nessercristianodeandrade3182
@nessercristianodeandrade3182 Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's 850
@shaftlamer
@shaftlamer Ай бұрын
Microsoft is at it at last
@SCARaw
@SCARaw Ай бұрын
Blizzard motives being predatory? HOW CAN YOU EVEN DEDUCE THAT? name: blizzard entertrashment and sexual harashment is dead giveway i hate this company and i wish game would be more strategic
@dimitrisbeleniotis4769
@dimitrisbeleniotis4769 Ай бұрын
maybe if they fix their game people will pay.....
@tbestialhuntress8237
@tbestialhuntress8237 Ай бұрын
After playing this game regularly for 6 years, I have decided to quit. Some people have a real life outside of gaming.
@piggy8761
@piggy8761 Ай бұрын
You’ll come back
@louisng114
@louisng114 Ай бұрын
Hearthstone is already dead to me with the removal of Duels.
@Triebwerkstoerung
@Triebwerkstoerung Ай бұрын
I have the feeling the hearthstone team wants to kill their own game.
@eaberrydc
@eaberrydc Ай бұрын
The bloated rng and lack of actual interactive play got me to stop spending money on this game years ago. Blizz's dilution of player rewards doesn't win my money back. Quite the opposite
@wolfmaster7227
@wolfmaster7227 Ай бұрын
I think this is the end of hearthstone - I have decided to quit to many things that are just so wrong for the game I think in 1-2 years hearthstone won't be around anymore
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