Dune. It's Dune Time - The Weekly Planet Podcast

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I can't believe it's Dune o'clock time already. And to celebrate this we cover the new Denis Villeneuve sci-fi epic Dune 2021. Plus more delays over at Mavel, Spider-Man and Star Wars news and just bad stuff right out of the gate. Thanks for listening!
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00:00 The Start
06:18 Halyna Hutchins RIP
12:09 Batwoman Drama
15:39 The Eternals Reactions
18:49 Hayden Christensen Ashoka Return
20:43 Y: The Last Man Cancelled
22:19 Guardians of the Galaxy 3
23:09 New Teasers
24:48 Uncharted Trailer
29:37 World War Hulk
32:24 Indiana Jones and MCU Delays
34:50 Mystery Sony Marvel Movies
36:36 New Spider-Man: No Way Home Images
39:04 Dune 2021 Review (spoilers 57:10 to 01:13:56)
01:13:56 What We Reading, What We Gonna Read
01:16:43 Letters, It's Time For Letters
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[@Amadeus451]

Paul Areides is the anti Anakin Skywalker-- he loves the sand. Can't get enough

[@jesse1086]

It's soft and it's get nowhere

[@DarkachuWasTaken]

It's fine and soothing. And it gets everywhere 😏

[@Arro3]

You really got me with that "I've never SEEN a movie... actually no, I've seen the train pulling into the station."

[@WontBackDown74]

Just watched dune for the first time to prepare for dune 2; loved listening to this 2 years later with all the perspective on these topics.

[@gracejefferson4062]

Same 😅 Watched it yesterday 😄

[@kylecraig2256]

This podcast is so dense with knowledge I love the density I’m sucked in

[@elijahlovejoy5438]

I can't wait for the sequel 2UNE

[@rjrohr85]

Dune 2:Electric DUNEaloo

[@DJSockmonkeyMusic]

Twune Fast Twune Furious

[@inventsable]

It'll be a remake called THE DUNE

[@billyjacob386]

Dune 2: Cruise Control

[@rjrohr85]

Space Dune: A New Legacy

[@yashabreslove8276]

Best part is [deserves an] Oscar Isaac saying "I wanted to be a pilot" and winking epically to the audience.

[@dicedude1071]

"I wanted to be a pilot- in a better movie"

[@mourad505]

Leto: "I wanted my character to not die in the Force Awakens, like the writers originally wanted... They made me regret it..." Paul: "What?... Dad, what the fuck are you talking about?" Leto: **Thousand Yard Stare**

[@pipedreamer9781]

His cold eyes catch a glimpse of Baron Harkonnen floating into the room. A cold sweat hits him. He grips his chair till his fingers go white. In a hushed whisper too quiet for anyone to hear, he instinctively utters "They fly now."

[@PadreDePato]

“If you walk without rhythm, you won’t attract the worm” - Fatboy Slim, ‘Weapon of Choice’

[@BrendanJimenez]

“Walken without rhythm”

[@tysonely]

SPOILER - - - - - - Once in the desert Paul's proximity to raw spice elevates his budding prescience and he begins to see possible futures. In one timeline he leads an army of Fremen to war, in another he and Jamus are friends and there is no future war in Paul's name. The stab fight at the end is the fulcrum on which Paul's future rests. By deciding to kill Jamus Paul is choosing his path.

[@Triforcefilms]

For Dune, Makes a certain amount of sense not to film them back to back. In the book, there is a huge leap in time right away in the story, so it's a natural gap in story, and a good time to let the actors bulk up or physically change a bit.

[@alexjames2264]

I dont think they're gonna wait 5-10 years for the actors to age up

[@Triforcefilms]

@@alexjames2264 Clearly not🙄... But you understand why they aren't at all compelled or required to film both parts back to back.... right?

[@MonroeRepublic]

@@alexjames2264 that was a useless thing to say.

[@MonroeRepublic]

And so was that. And so is this.

[@Triforcefilms]

@@ThreadBomb you're missing my point. The question was "why not film them back to back?" The answer is "because they are meant to look different and older anyway, so there's no need to rush through it". Surely bulking up, looking slightly older, and just allowing time for excitement to build and secure funding/fanbase makes sense, Hmm? When there's a literal 2 year gap in the story, it makes perfect sense to wait 2 years between filming.

[@Robocopnik]

They're not just witches, they're, like, ninja Illuminati witches.

[@akshayhere]

Quite accurate

[@erickhart8046]

Haha true true.

[@Phoenix-pb4sm]

"Is it June or is it Dyune?" - James regarding a movie definitely pronounced neither way.

[@MrSmithers]

I feel like Dyoon is right, that's what you call a sand hill. That is to say, it definitely isn't Doon.

[@Paul-ke2hg]

Deune

[@MrSmithers]

@@Paul-ke2hg Duran Duran

[@johntonssen7231]

It’s dyoon, like tyoosday, styoopid, hyugh jackman etc Due (😉) to your accent you might take a short cut and say June, jue chewsday, shtyoopid etc, but that’s still pretty correct. It is very wrong to say doon, toosday, stoopid, hoo jackman, doo etc

[@Th3Downz]

@@MrSmithers I think it most certainly is Doon because Frank Herbert was an American, so that's canon!

[@chrislee3601]

JAMES: The guy who knows everything about anime ALSO JAMES: why is his name " one piece?"

[@AustinViolence]

47:00 Can confirm. IMAX has that bass you can feel, which makes "the voice" and ornithopter scenes amazing. 1:05:20 Hitting a shield with a lasgun makes a nuclear explosion because atoms are split somehow (from the books) 1:07:00 Paul's visions are potential futures 1:11:20 Feyd-Rautha is the Baron's other, more competent nephew. We only meet Rabban (Dave Batista) in this one.

[@dsj1328]

I was in a regular AMC theater and even there the bass was really powerful in those moments

[@KsilVR]

This guy Dunes

[@Elios0000]

its more a fusion thing that sets off nuclear chain reaction

[@Ledpooplin55]

As someone who started One Piece less than a year ago and now ranks it among his favorite things ever (I've seen like 5 anime btw, read 1 manga) I feel it is a travesty that Mason has not read it. Anyone who doesn't know One Piece is a tragic situation to be remedied asap of course, but I feel like it could be Masos favorite thing ever and he doesn't even know what it is. Its made for you guy, do it. Its worth it.

[@TrillgataQ]

He's got a straw hat, and he's running in

[@robertfrost8264]

*Very underrated* final fight between a hero and a villain in a movie: Barry Egan and the Mattress Man in Punch Drunk Love. "That's that." Beautiful.

[@blipmachine]

The Dark Knight is my favorite Dune adaptation for Heath Ledger’s performance as the Joker alone.

[@elijahgibson5910]

Wat

[@blipmachine]

@@elijahgibson5910 The Dark Knight is my favorite Dune adaptation for Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker alone.

[@johntonssen7231]

You quoted it wrong, also keep this unfunny ‘running gag’ bs on mr Sunday movies channel, we don’t want that here on the weekly planet.

[@connorkinsman3164]

@@johntonssen7231 you're, a very strange period of fan aren't you. The Westworld running gag??

[@TheLegoJungle]

He zigged, and then he zagged. Can’t believe this week wasn’t the GI Joe episode.

[@kingfield99]

Mr Sunday doesn't have a swimming pool? My visions of his luxury-podcasting lifestyle are SHATTERED.

[@user-ht9mh4cm3f]

too cold where he lives, fkn freezing in the southern half of aus

[@kingfield99]

@@user-ht9mh4cm3f I assumed it was an indoor heated pool.

[@rjrohr85]

Goats don’t swim

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

Well, he does have that backyard roller coaster. Not much room left for a pool

[@MonroeRepublic]

@@user-ht9mh4cm3f lmao. It's not that cold. If people in literal frozen countries can have pools. A slightly colder State in a country that's basically an oven, can definitely have pools.

[@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL]

Personally I think dune was the most visually stunning, narratively compelling and Complex boring depressing slog of half a movie I’ve ever seen.

[@craigoneill2216]

Spot on I’d say

[@yellowfamilyfunny3065]

Seems like dune to me lmao perfect

[@Drawnartist]

Sucks for you

[@NightmareproductionsOFFICIAL]

@@Drawnartist yeh it does kinda but I was still glued to the screen like the more I think about the movie the more I like it but it was still such a Fucking drag. Like ask me 2 weeks ago I’d say I never wanna see it again. Now I think I’d give it a rewatch for sure

[@CobraJayOfficial]

I love the "I'm Spider-Man I'll end you all!" narrative james and maso have crafted

[@tywag5609]

People coming out of the Eternals sound like Marty McFly calling everything ''Heavy''

[@milou66]

Ararat is the name of a mountain in Turkey, but also a mountain in Victoria, but also a Canadian film starring two Canadian starship captains, Christopher Plummer and Bruce Greenwood.

[@phillyhamstring]

please please please do a Caravan of Garbage on 1984 Dune!!

[@tak3aw4y6]

Maybe they'll do Dune 1984 and Children of Dune for Dune part 2 in 2023

[@sonsofthewestredwhiteblue5317]

53:46 except that scene not too long after Paul and his mum encounter the Fremen, where they pan across the desert to show a dozen or so of them just trudging single file through the desert. You had 1 rule guys….

[@jeynarl]

That HHhhot Gggoss segment I could just feel the room get warmer with each max temp exhale

[@Matt-xc6sp]

Hotter than the working conditions on a CW set, baby

[@lyndsaybrown8471]

Listening to James and Mason puzzling out One Piece actually made me laugh out loud.

[@veylun]

He's got a straw hat, and he runs IN 🏃🏃🤠

[@qncymrtn]

I was asleep and I heard One Piece and woke up because I thought I misheard

[@Ledpooplin55]

I feel like One Piece could be Masons favorite thing ever and he doesn't even know what it is.

[@Curly_Swivelman]

29:10 theyre besties and we’re living for it 😂😂😂

[@corydeceased]

Hayden Christensen's Anakin acting: It's dense

[@brt1strrbb110]

To go through someone and into another, that's a bullet. A live round with primer, powder and lead at the top. Apparently they were shooting before filming began and left it partially loaded.

[@holdenstrausser]

Actually the shields in Dune will create a really big explosion if you shoot them, killing you and the person who you are trying to shoot. That's why they don't normally use guns.

[@hollandscottthomas]

@History Eraser Button A knife's a projectile anytime you throw it.

[@godconvoy]

That's only with lasguns, but a regular non energy weapon wouldn't have that effect, but would not pass through the shield because of how they work. Slow moving matter can pass through the shields.

[@TheEnecca]

@@godconvoy in the scene where oscar isaac gets captured he was hit by a fast moving projectile right? but the shild slowed it down. is that how it works for every non-laser weapon?

[@godconvoy]

@@TheEnecca, it's how the shields are supposed to work. It's the whole point of the "slow attack". Sounds like another fail on this version of Djune.

[@chrish5136]

I didn't expect to get spoilers for the rest of the story, stuff that happens to Jason Momoas character outside of this particular movie.

[@ckooakley]

Guys, do yourself a favour and watch the 2012 Spicediver fan edit of Lynch's film, everything is explained. The film depicts all the parties goals and their machinations to achieve those goals. This is literally a galactic Game of Thrones. The 2021 explains nothing. You need the 1984 Spicediver edit as a primer. Peace!

[@keinish77]

So now i need them to make a Caravan of Garbage of the Train Pulling into the Station

[@Brazdon83]

This episode was dense, and I couldn't leave the center of this unrelated black hole because of its infinity density, is that how this works? Cause its dense!

[@PittsburghSonido]

Every shot is just so dense.

[@TheCaporalblutch]

08:10 i was about to google how many kilometers is 50 miles, so thanks (from one of the european listeners who sits at a café with an éclair and a cigarillo)

[@godconvoy]

Don't forget your glass of wine in your other other hand.

[@dvega8513]

Thank you boys !

[@IronicSonics]

Cmon you came up with the best one before "Golden Baytime"

[@jmace2424]

Dune Stans: “Dune is like Game of Thrones in space with all the noble houses at war!” Me: It’s not, though, because they never show up. It would be like if Game of Thrones consisted entirely of Jon at the Wall and Ned by himself in a King’s Landing populated only by a handful of Lannisters.

[@zachshields909]

I’m not first but in my heart I am

[@mikemarquette924]

If anyone asks me, I'm gonna tell them you were first.

[@zachshields909]

@@mikemarquette924 my man James and Mason would be proud

[@chivasowle286]

You’re always first in my heart as well.

[@Tymbus]

And in our hearts too

[@stealintomorrow]

wow listening to this it is clear that Maso does NOT remember Dune at all lol.

[@rjdruhan]

For Hulk, it's Universal, and greatly simplified: what they basically have is right of first refusal on the distribution rights for any standalone Hulk films. So, Disney could make a Hulk movie with no problem, but they would have to offer to let Universal distribute it. If Universal refused, Disney could still distribute it themselves. But there's no way Universal would refuse that, because it's *free money* And Disney is never gonna just let Universal distribute one of their films.

[@Sabakryou]

I'm so Dune with this podcast

[@THEAdmiralXizor]

Instead of calling it a "poop suit", they should just change the spelling of "stillsuit": Change the "i" to "oo" and everything is fine! 🤣👍🏽

[@StreamAway]

The best comparison to Dune is the Warhammer 40k universe, it was heavily inspired by Dune as well as many other sci-fi stories.

[@godconvoy]

They ripped off like a good 70% or so of it..... Dune did from Warhammers Games40K.

[@jewsco]

Most of modern sci fi comes from dune . Heck GoT is another thing that was also inspired by dune as GRRM loves the dune books

[@ComicsFromScratch]

I hate to be an old man yelling at a cloud, but in my day, post-Annihilation Conquest, the Guardians grew from their beginnings. Yes, they had 50 years of obscure cosmic history, but within those stories, they learned and grew as people and as a team. There was as big a gap between GOTG2 and Infinity War as there was in the Endgame timeskip. But they didn't change. In the game, they seem to be the same. Flanderization really killed that fresh and interesting team.

[@danielmacnaughton9580]

Bruce Campbell as Sully was the clear choice. Ya blew it, Sony.

[@brockenglish7602]

Guardians of the Galaxy was not made by the studio that made Avengers. They were both published by Square Enix but Avengers was developed by Crystal Dynamics (Tomb Raider reboot) and Guardians of the Galaxy was developed by Eidos Montreal (Deus Ex reboot).

[@ToomanyFrancis]

Just got out of the post-release advance screening for this episode of the Weekly Planet podcast. I don't think it's for every one. It's thought provoking, brain teasing, riddling, middling, political, anti-political, and most of all it's Dense.

[@SacredDaturana]

I liked the Dune movie a lot, but I'd also been reading the book in the week beforehand. It feels like it might be pretty incomprehensible to someone who didn't have fresh/intimate knowledge of the book. Also, the audiobook is great. They go for a mixed approach where most of the book is read by a narrator but some dialogue in key scenes is done by actors, and there is some ambient sounds and music.

[@MasterDoctorBenji]

Haven't read it, stayed away from the story and details. I am the opposite of what people suggest. I prefer watching the movie first. I prefer the visual medium, find the emotional moments and epic spectacles hit better. After, I go back to really fill in the details. I followed things fairly well it seems. Afterwards my Girlfriend and I spent a long time talking about it. That helps. Most people make up their minds in the theatre then don't forget about, just remembering the impression of being confused. It's kinda like the Holdo/Poe storyline in episode 8. It makes perfect sense, when you get down to brass tax but everyone, even myself, left the theatre with the impression of. That was annoying bollocks.

[@tfn19lel12]

You guys should read One Piece it’s a stellar read. Over the 900 chapters it just keeps getting better.

[@jmace2424]

My issue with Dune is that the spice is not only a hallucinogen and highly addictive but it can power interstellar travel. I feel like those 3 things should not be true. A fuel source that powerful should probably just kill you if injected.

[@doomstadt2371]

What does Wahlberg have on execs? He can't be drawing a substantial audience anymore, how is he still in big movies? I haven't seen him try in a movie for almost a decade.

[@himynamelscolin]

he literally makes me not want to see the movie now lmao

[@jewsco]

Him and Bruce Willis must have pictures of executives doing so nasty shit

[@RogueBoyScout]

I read this in Wahlberg's voice ;)

[@AlzheimersCaretaker]

Mark Wahlberg has cornered the market on playing the exact same guy in every movie.

[@himynamelscolin]

@@AlzheimersCaretaker he’s got that Mark Wahlberg role locked in

[@sapphic_sophie]

So wait wait wait, I’m confused… is it “D’yune” or “June”? also i should admit that i’ve said this in my head every time someone said the name of this movie

[@smacksalad]

Its all the desert all the tiiiiime!

[@chivasowle286]

49:00 Live action Avatar movie…is that something y’all have in Australia?

[@jasonmckenzie2835]

Loved Dune. Best movie experience I've had since 2019. I appreciate slow burns and excellent world building and with the spectacular cinema photography and excellent score I was completely transported to this universe. Hoping for a 2nd film.

[@hollandscottthomas]

Fingers crossed, cos it's apparently doing pretty well so far! I'll be really sad if WB does a WB and just farts in the elevator and leaves.

[@hollandscottthomas]

Part Two just got announced as greenlit!

[@jasonmckenzie2835]

@@hollandscottthomas fantastic!!!

[@niyaking-khari3515]

I enjoyed Dune but while I get that there's a lot of depth to this universe the first half was painfully slow. I think this would work much better as a big budget GoT styles series where you could dedicate entire episodes to some of the more complex world building

[@marikikyo5652]

That’s what dune fans say, but for what it’s worth, I loved the movie. Edit: I do agree with those fans too tho. Definitely better as a GoT style

[@maxxranchero634]

"You can't use them on Dune because of the sandworms." "The what?"

[@geordaneplays]

On release, this is the video that convinced me that I WILL be playing Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy. now months later, I have finished the game and got it to 100%. :)

[@michaeljeacock]

i did not know luffy's real name was one piece. but if the guy who knows everything about anime says it, it must be true.

[@Vincent.Morreale]

Can't wait to see Paul's son that turns into a giant worm god.

[@kevinearley5896]

Wow! What a dense episode……..

[@JaredisAMPED]

I was holding my phone with my pinky when they said it’s bad to hold it with your pinky.

[@reptocilicus]

I was holding my phone with my pinky when I read your comment, and they haven’t discussed it on the podcast yet, so now I’m concerned.

[@DarkachuWasTaken]

Spiderman ends with setup for superior spiderman so we get to see him punch a man's whole body off

[@unbearifiedbear1885]

Aussies and Kiwis quietly winning KZbin Massively overrepresented on my channel list

[@UnknowNinja]

I bought an epson projector for Dune. Now I watch tv on 100” lol

[@peteharper3299]

"I can tell you [the SPUMM 2024 movies] will be disappointing." Calling in from 2024 - yes.

[@Tymbus]

Apparently Dune 2021 cost a mere 165 million dollars before marketing

[@MrLee-zh9ls]

Ah! Warhammer 40k mentioned on my favourite podcast. Even more exciting when the comedian Stewart lee said "warhammer twat" during a bit.

[@runner9528]

I thought it was a guardians of the galaxy the game episode this week

[@Sabakryou]

im dying a few minutes in!😅 lmao the European stuff

[@THEAdmiralXizor]

I wonder how much Feyd-Rautha is going to look JUST LIKE Tom Hardy did in Star Trek Nemesis..!?

[@BigMikeMcBastard]

Well, Feyd was meant to be the carrot to Rabban as the stick. I am interested to see Denis' take on it as he may deliberately not look very Harkonnen-esque in order to better contrast him with his brother.

[@THEAdmiralXizor]

@@BigMikeMcBastard that is not a bad take... Respect

[@jasonjohannsen7822]

"When Tom Holland grows up and becomes a man" He is 25 years old guys

[@AlzheimersCaretaker]

He might be the next Paul rudd. He may have already stopped aging at 25.

[@DJ-vg1pr]

that's the joke that they're making

[@michaelfischer566]

James and Maso‘s image of Europe is just France and I love it

[@TheHumanVoiceBox]

Have they ever read Fist of the North Star?

[@JadenSmithEyes]

40:35 Is this a deliberate saboTAHHHHHHGHGGHHGE?

[@shwnshts9469]

remember when the hulk vs the thing was front page news? i really hope the mcu can somehow bring that back. make the thing a thing again.

[@Haysey_Draws]

We're DUNE it!

[@RogueBoyScout]

As a HUGE fan of the novel Dune, your "review" of the film is so hilariously funny in a naive way. I say that with full enjoyment of your review

[@RogueBoyScout]

Oh yeah, they need to bring back Sting in those undies he wore in the 84 film.

[@thedamash1]

Updated Numbers, Budget for Dune $167 million plus marketing = $300 million. Total worldwide as of Oct 24 2021 is $220 million, $180 international, $40 domestic.

[@Tymbus]

I wonder what streaming on HBO Max contributes to the profit

[@geoffreytilford6620]

Wasn't that Tom Holland movie called Mumflood and Son

[@mrsundaymovies]

This is the best comment anyone has ever made here

[@nolanhicken241]

I think for Spider-Man no way home an explanation for me to why Tom Holland Peter is dressed up as Toby McGuire Peter is maybe when the multiverse spell is cast Tom H petter falls into and replaces Toby peter in his universe kinda like x-men days of future past style

[@jonsvee837]

Final fantasy? Don't know anything about it but, isn't there like 16 million and a half?

[@godconvoy]

And that's just the regular mainline ones. There's also the tactics and other spin-off lines.

[@Peteparker_]

Y: The Last Man is really good, but something is fishy with it. I can only ever find it by specifically searching for it in Hulu. It never comes up in 'my list' or favorites or whatever. It's like Hulu has been trying to bury it as soon as it came out.

[@thechurchofnimko7678]

“Mom flood : The Movie”

[@ericodinson6593]

I fucking love you two

[@kylestark8581]

The Amazing Bulk 2: World War Bulk

[@carl7697]

Best End hero vs villain fight? Kiss Kiss Bang Bang - Captain Fucking Magic. No question.

[@mr.fancypants666]

Amazing adaptation. They goofed on not using Gurney's iconic line during the training session, and there were too many lasers. Lasers and shields don't mix.

[@AustinViolence]

What was Gurney's iconic line? Mood is a thing for cattle and lovemaking?

[@mr.fancypants666]

@@AustinViolence "love play " but yeah.Granted this is only the third version of Dune but still. Every Terminator movie has " come with me if you want to live." You have to keep these things alive.

[@AustinViolence]

"Love play" is from Patrick Stewart, not from the book. The book says something about mood being for cattle, lovemaking, and future guitar.

[@jonseyjones321]

You guys had to have watched the leaked version of Dune.

[@robertmartin2936]

Marvel's What If... World War (hulk?)

[@khorne41]

Fassbender for Feyd Rautha !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@FRESHNESSSSSS]

Did I actually just hear Nick Mason call Denis Villeneuve "villa-noof"??

[@jamesclement8985]

I've been banging my head against that wall for years now trying to correct them. They also say "Ga-doe" when pronouncing Gal Gadot. It's like, ffs guys, you can find videos where they pronounce their names correctly. It's "Vee-neuf". It's "Ga-dot".

[@FRESHNESSSSSS]

@@jamesclement8985 They keep mispronouncing "Dune" aswell. It's "Dune".

[@BigMikeMcBastard]

@@jamesclement8985 You pronounce the L and it's more of a V sound at the end than F. Vill-nuv. Source: Am Canadian.

[@FrogJuiceJustice]

One piece infact turned out to be pretty alright thankfully

[@JacobRavenglass]

12:50 I’ll be honest, I had to look up the article to see if I heard you correctly - Getting people to *steam your pants around the crotch while you’re wearing them* seems kind of bad for your health, never mind the mental health of the people you’re getting to do it. Like, I get that it’s a power trip, but that is just ... peculiar, to put it lightly.

[@RogueBoyScout]

I got called Dense at school. It wasn't a compliment. That is all...

[@qncymrtn]

James!!!! Don’t let the length stop you, I will write you every video until you block me for harassment, will I go to Australia to convince you, absolutely not but it’s a great read.

[@TheMagicRobot]

Eternals is dense, like an harem anime protagonist.

[@jonboldrey5339]

Mtn. Dune!

[@17absolut]

Yo, when's Mark Wahlberg's infinite review ? Hein ?