Wehrmacht Faction Deep Dive

[@jermasus]

“I’m moving all of my units together in a tactical attack formation, otherwise known as a blob. - Field Marshal Zhang, 1944.

[@onur97able]

Well atleast this time around all 4 factions seem to have acess to solid blob counters in their core tree's provided they dont treat the US and UK HMG's like how they did them in coh 2

[@jayros4269]

@@onur97able The US HMG looks better from what I can tell from the stream.

[@CtrlAltRetreat]

@@jayros4269 Browning was a great mg that came too late. If they 'fix' it by matching timing, it'll result in a lot more gameplay symmetry.

[@onur97able]

@@jayros4269 for this game's i hope they dont repeat the same mistakes ad the m2 50 cal because it has been nerfed without considering it was locked behind a 35 fuel tech

[@jayros4269]

@@onur97able The biggest problem with the USF 50 cal was that it could not reliably suppress infantry in COH2. I think in the last stream about the US forces they mentioned its good now.

[@Sven_Nn]

Speaking of unit's commentaries. I'd really love to have the option to enable every faction's original language audio. So I can listen to the Wehrmacht's audio that player would listen to playing in german, while having the game set to english and vise versa

[@VexingWeeb]

Love it when games have that in games. like in bf1 the faction you play in is voiced by the country they're from ( ie speaking german when playing german, english with english or american accent dependent on faction) or in war thunder there's an option that your tank crew speaks in the language of their country (I think world of tanks and warships has this too)

[@jasperaartsen8990]

@@VexingWeeb this was one of the cool details i loved about the age of empires games too, i actually learned some words from it in different languages lol

[@VexingWeeb]

@@jasperaartsen8990 yo the only thing I hear in age of empires is when you select a villager and it sounds like they say “EAT CHA FATHAH” or “BEAT CHA FATHAH” 😂

[@dreadedTanker3173]

@@VexingWeeb i remember being blown away with that option in Red Orchestra 2. S tier WW2 game

[@supersjaak123]

Yes man, this is something I wished for too

[@Ricardo42901]

Please add the option to remove decals and team colors on the vehicles and buildings, just like in COH2.

[@jermasus]

Seconded

[@juani2929]

hate when companies remove game features

[@jamesjamozo6964]

Really unfortunate that the game will only support English Audio. The german voiceacting in CoH2 was really good...

[@volimcvarke8437]

Shame but I dont hold a grudge

[@m00tes]

True, i wish we would get native voice lines for each faction, like a setting where you would turn on that german speak german, british speak english, soviets speak russian etc. One of the greatest things they could do for the game.

[@davidhughes8795]

Oh that's interesting, i thought the English VO in 2 was generally quite forgettable. Big step down from the hilarious stuff in the first game.

[@invisibleknight2890]

@@m00tes I remember that in Battelfield 1 it was really cool

[@Dar_Skirata]

I hope they can get around to add this in the future. Until then the title will unfortunately be a no-buy for me. I'm German, and the Schwarzenegger-like DEnglish dubbing in these games was always painful to witness, but luckily 1 and 2 had outstanding German language support. Compared to the old different language support packages and the much requested faction-specific languages, this move feels like the worst way to go, and extremely cheap.

[@crableproductions5112]

I was incredibly nervous seeing early footage of COH3, but now I am getting excited. The game is looking great. A lot of my worries have been fixed. Keep it up!

[@CtrlAltRetreat]

Initial beta really had me worried. I'm glad they're getting a handle on things.

[@thatotherguy11222]

Did they ditch the copy total wars campaign map formula?

[@cass7448]

@@thatotherguy11222 The Italian dynamic campaign? No, why would they? The Africa campaign is linear like before.

[@thatotherguy11222]

@@cass7448 It's awful

[@sterben8869]

I have high hopes for this game, launch I think will be a little Shakey but with regular updates and patches to fix various issues and improve aspects of the game I really think it will take off. As long as relic doesn't abandon coh3 I think it will have a bright future

[@JJoJam]

How many factions at launch? Is it just Wehr and USF planned?

[@Macigus]

@@JJoJam US Forces, WEhrmacht, Afrika Korp and British Forces are confirmed as i know for release

[@JJoJam]

@@Macigus Wonderful! I was worried about the starting faction variety. CoH2 launched with only soviets and wehr iirc?

[@Macigus]

@@JJoJam Thats correct, the other 3 Factions came later. So we have a good chance of a CoH game with atleast 6 Factions ( 4 at release and one per side with a DLC )

[@JJoJam]

Terrific! Here's hoping for a good launch and great dlc to follow up. I just hope USF still gets to call in paratroopers. Fave unit from COH2.

[@littlechatelain2395]

Something that I'm so impressed by is the vehicle physics. The rocking of the Tiger as it accelerated across the field was delightful. My absolute favorite part of this stream was the destroyed P4 rolling down the hill near the WM base in that first match. So incredible. Cheers, Relic!

[@nbaumg]

i sure hope there will be some extreme graphic options on PC for things like longer debris and longer bodies and blood/gore. seeing the aftermath stay on the map longer is super cool. if not natively supported in the UI then maybe I can tweak some file values instead

[@hurricane15664]

Is there any chance we could get an option to turn off team colors specifically for the capture flags? The team colors are easily readable, but given the option I'd prefer to use national flags for the capture points. Even just having the Green allies flag and the German flag be red would be nice

[@benedictjajo]

When tanks shoot each other, I don't see any impact when it penetrates which should be fixed. It's a visual cue that affects the gameplay. In coh2 you can feel the impact of penetrated shots on tanks.

[@trabuco9]

Are you blind? It's there and it's better than the pathetic excuse that was in Company of Heroes 2. CoH1 still did it better than both somehow.

[@benedictjajo]

@@trabuco9 I think you're the blind one. And coh2 does it best. You don't get that ooomph in coh1 and here in coh3.

[@trabuco9]

@@benedictjajo What ohmp? There's a quick low effort flash with some sparks and nothing else, in CoH1 there are actually smoke particles along with sparks and in CoH3 it's just an explosion with sparks, which is still way better than the garbage response in CoH2.

[@0x10e3]

+1. In coh2, a stronger sense of crisis can be felt.😱 coh3 I don't feel it's dangerous to be penetrated😐

[@KozahMiek]

baby blue on a tiger tank for team differentiation, yikes. everythung looks great should be a blast to play, cant wait!

[@angelofdarkness3000]

It's getting better and better! Well done, guys! Wish: A fully customizable UI would be great

[@tomakazecoh5354]

I already see a lot of great improvements. The smoke trails on bullets has been toned down (which was really bugging me). I thought seeing the enemy build in base was interesting. Stuff seems to be coming together. Looking forward to it.

[@dudeguybro]

Came here to say this. It looks significantly more polished than before. Hell, even game performance - frames and such - are also a lot better. I'm so pumped for this. Looks like that extra time has really paid off so far.

[@GUANTA23K]

Really like the design of the factions 👍 But I'm not a fan of the strangely artificial look. 🤔 I still think the art direction of the original fits the setting best.

[@GUANTA23K]

@@sapperdaddy3035 No, you can clearly see in trailers and screenshots that a deliberately artificial, stylized look was chosen. Not as blatantly pronounced as in Age of Empires. But clearly a "look", certainly a conscious, artistic decision.

[@GUANTA23K]

@@sapperdaddy3035 besides, in the footage from reveal, the color palette was a lot more vibrant, too. Which did trigger a lot of fan reactions, resulting in the dev team toning that down a bit.

[@GUANTA23K]

@@sapperdaddy3035 don't get me wrong. This is no dev bashing. I have literally all games from relic. I pre-ordered COH 3, I'm greatly looking forward to it. But I'm just not a fan of that art style. I think it's a huge missed opportunity. And your denial of what you see, clearly shows that you expect the same thing. A realistic approach. More detail, greater fidelity. Hell, imagine what it could have been, if they had decided to use photogrammetry like in the latest Battlefield games or even Battlefront...

[@brianbiggers9611]

@@sapperdaddy3035 The bright look is part of the theme they are going with. The mediterranean. Maybe they will tone it down some in the future with eastern front expansion, western front winter campaigns

[@wrakowic]

Great HUD improvements, loving it now ♥ Will you make the fog of war shadow smoother for the release? It's kind of a huge contrast to the very smooth camera and unit movements.

[@7777Leander]

100%

[@godmodegaming5157]

Im glad to see the visual clarity is much improved!

[@Sanja2142]

18:10 though... Greyhound wiping pioneers with 1 shell and then T posing right after to assert dominance

[@CtrlAltRetreat]

Rofl, makes me wonder how that triggered. What was actually supposed to happen there?

[@octaviogonzalezventura1919]

@@CtrlAltRetreat missing animation probs

[@mattytrane]

Ya'll did a great job with the multiplayer test!

[@sherpamcderpa1961]

Awesome stuff! Love it and can't wait for the release!

[@benjaminhodzic4840]

@Relic Adding options for enabling/disabling stuff on the HUD will go a long way. You don't need to do it right away but down the road it will be quite welcome. For instance being able to disable that icon that shows armor profiles on the unit card, team colors on armored units etc.

[@mega0056]

Something I appreciate about the making of this game is the game designers are actually playing the game so they can not only see but feel things out. I really appreciate that from the dev's as I honestly don't think many do play test their games. Also I am glad the grenadiers are now a 6 man team from a 4 man. This will give them more power in fights and I think they play similar to the wermecht in CoH2. I also find myself playing very defensive in the first half of the game until I either get armor or stormtroopers out (even with strom troopers I'm still a bit defensive, just have them ambush enemies trying to cap in my territory sometimes). I can't wait for the release of CoH 3.

[@ivanbilohuscin6661]

I was skeptical with first gameplay videos, but this looks great! Just about the right mix of familiar and new.

[@childofconvienience]

Looks great so far! But why are we still not able to see all weapon slot weapons? The plus sign next to the weapon upgrade is a step in the right direction, however why can't we see ALL of them?

[@tharionthedragon3531]

really happy about the timer on the tiger call-in, it's a great idea, and I hope it sticks despite the obviously expected complaints from the wehraboos

[@crashtestdummy2337]

It's also going to help the whermact my friend. Can't call in a Pershing again as soon as you lose it. Honestly heavy tank spam is far more common with the soviets in COH2 then the whermact. Your call in tanks are ridiculously cheap.

[@tharionthedragon3531]

@@crashtestdummy2337 the Piershing was locked behind a paywall in coh2 anyway, and not everyone has access to it, so it wasn't a big deal. And the allied fiction is always designed as having to _react_ to german heavy armor with powerful AT, instead of ever leading the game, because Relic believes in the myths about the Sherman being a deathtrap which couldn't pen anything so they make it a shit tank

[@sirculito15893]

wow, too many negative people in these comments. Instead, create a suggestion in discord coh3 dev. Impossible to track each whining from mid 30s boys here

[@ehberburger741]

What I really want in COH3 is a standardization of player colours. I hated that players, allied and enemy, had different colours for me and my party members. If Players 1 is blue for everyone, or even just for my team, it will be much easier to identify what is occurring from a quick glance or mini-map

[@garlkurzer]

100%

[@ziokalco]

Having the option would be nice. I wouldn't mind not always being the blue team xD

[@endlesspera8808]

smoke,flame and mortar hits looking good keep it up!

[@OrionTheta1]

My guy for CoH stuff...

[@GeeNo_]

I would like a general gameplay video going over differences between CoH 1 and 2 to the new mechanics in 3. How do snares work, like CoH 1 or 2, or something new? How does vehicle armor work? Is there red cover still? (If so the unit crosshair that appears when they're in combat looks like it could be mistaken for a red shield pretty easily). For monetization will things be able to be obtained with in game currency like how CoH 2 ended up or are we buying a full priced game to have strategic options locked behind dlc like CoH 2 was at it's infancy? Acknowledging some faults with CoH 1/2 and how those have been improved for CoH 3, like unit pathing or clumping up (to be one shot by aoe). A short video that covers the major changes for people familiar with the series, and another video for people completely new to it would be welcome.

[@garlkurzer]

There is no pay to win in CoH3, apart from buying factions but thats not really pay to win. They released a community post yesterday, where they said you can buy skins in the in-game shop by a currency which you can earn by playing or doing challenges.

[@GeeNo_]

@@garlkurzer That's good

[@maloo2brvo26]

It seems like the units aren’t very high resolution/ low poly models. I’m hoping they have some texture upgrades that make it feel next generation.

[@TheTopOfTheWorld]

Thanks guys, the faction looks great. I have a question. Will we be able to toggle on and off these blue and red cirlces around the flags? It was really cool when the flags were parts of the environment like in CoH1. Thanks.

[@Chevvyization]

Am i correctly assuming u can only chose one tier 1 building as wechrmacht ? and the t2 and t3 ? that will be perma decisiion

[@striderfootyy5046]

It really looks mobile gamey. But I'll reserve further judgement for when the game releases. I'm sure it's just because its different from what we've been playing for years with COH2. I dunno.

[@gargara77]

This game looks rubbish, tanks looks like toys and shot each others in 10 meter diameter. When tanks get shot nothing happens in COH2 tanks was shaking. Right now this game looks like a ordinary mobile game.

[@brianbiggers9611]

The height of the left hud could be lower. I understand the theme idea but it would be handy to see more of the field.

[@vivekantoni2134]

Gotta ask but did they downgraded the destruction physics?

[@richardsims5158]

I was ranked fairly highly for a long time in CoH1 (Hung around world top 30 or so for both Americans and Germans) so I figure I shiuld know what I'm taking about......... but have there been any graphical/engine upgrades since CoH1? It looks pretty much exactly the same to me. Not meant really as a snub to this game, if anything more a reconfirmation of how far ahead of the curve the first game was back in 2005.

[@RajItToMe]

I really hope there is an option to move the unit cards back to the top right or just right above the ui on the bottom right. It being tucked in there at the bottom of the screen by the mini map that takes up way too much space is really annoying.

[@pistonaru]

you have that option in the settings

[@civilprotection3114]

Can building units gain veterancy from building and repairing? Found it really annoying using a terrible unit in combat since it’s not it’s intended role.

[@ziokalco]

At least in CoH2 I find it hard to vet pioneers as it is. I probably would like it if they get some xp for building and repairing as in most scenarios that's their role

[@AltesEisen81]

18:12 Oh no, mighty splash damage of the greyhound.

[@dudeguybro]

Curious about the balancing of the Brumbar in CoH3. Taking many grains of salt with community commentary, there are usually lots of concerns over the current (CoH2) Brumbar's armor being too tough for how powerful it is. I've seen endless rants about this. Though I did argue about counters, a lot of people still had some good points about it being a little too overpowered at the moment. Edit: Playing with that M24 Chaffee is gonna be badass. Gives me T70 vibes but maybe slightly stronger?

[@SergeiMosin]

Armor should be similar to the T70, but the gun is the same 75 as the M4 Sherman, so it should be an absolute beast if it can switch between HE for tackling infantry and AP for some damage against medium and light vehicles. It'll be useless against heavy armor and struggle with some mediums, but it's a great choice for moving a solid and versatile medium gun to the front

[@al-hakimabdul8563]

I hope they will give us a freedom to customize our own HUD in game like i want the minimalist without graphics or just translucent kind of HUD

[@RSProduxx]

Well, that´s couragous to show name and face when you´re in charge of balancing :D

[@Dor326]

it is indeed a bold move

[@fotppd1475]

In many ways it looks like a combination of the COH 1 Wehrmacht and COH 2 Soviets, in a number of ways.(mostly when it comes to the Grenadiers) I think they took the best bits of each one and merge them together very well.

[@isaacgentz3319]

The USF seems better thought-out than in CoH2, really like the look of the Hellcat and Chaffee, nice and quick. Units like that would support a nice flanking playstyle

[@mikkel066h]

I like that they have taken the user reviews and it shows that they care to improve the game for the players. One of the main things that was an issue was the game looked to "cartoonish" with how vibrant the colors were. Which is now more washed out and look more akin to COH 2 graphics

[@faltun]

I loved it all, very excited about the game, even though i miss field marshals, i think that system really gave one more layer to the game, one more choice to make and make unique games\builds and also felt good to the lore.

[@Simon-xk8ct]

the hud is huge... bottom right is never visible :-/ looking forward to coh 3

[@thedoubleuw239]

I want to play! 😭 take your time tho, I can wait

[@adityamookerjee.]

One difference between this CoH and the earlier ones seems to be that the infantry can take quite a lot of damage even when retreating (or have I got the term wrong?). I like that and think its more realistic.

[@afreedwalee4826]

Cannot wait for it. Been playing the series since 2008. Still the best RTS is company of heroes 2.

[@Nyllsor]

Tank and infantry movment looks very good! Gameplay and graphics looks Great!

[@McMackster]

'Modest Kar98s' those rifles were, and still are, among the most precise rifles made.

[@profeten4510]

They were but the m1 garand was far superior thanks to it being semi automatic. The Lee enfield tho wasnt better.

[@janik02199]

In my opinion the sounds, espially for weapons are too weak, they dont sound very powerful, the sound effects need some more might.

[@max7032]

HEET I HAVE A QUESTION WILL COMPANY OF HEROES 3 ALSO ALSO BE ABLE TO PLAY TOTAL ANNIVERSARY WITHOUT THESE VICTORY TOKENS ? would be very important for me because I only play sooo many thanks for an answer

[@TheAceIsBlack]

38:06 I like the idea of the Officer Quarters. Vet 1 right away and 25% exp earn rate. It gives a nice coh1 touch to the game without "overdoing" it. I would want to ask if it is possible to reassemble the US forces in a similiar way because i do like the supply yard idea from coh1 a lot. But instead of one supply yard each building would have a "Improved Logistics" upgrade that reduces the upkeep of the units from that building by like 20% or so and units gain 25% more exp. I know there are i think doctrinal unlocks that reduce the upkeep of certain unit types, but still. I would like to bring back the idea of supply yard mechanics for US forces just as we have some vet mechanics similiar to the Kampfkraftcenter.

[@Mani-tg4kq]

the graphics look more toy like compared to the realism approach from previous coh, the game poster/cover also gives you the hint

[@SuperKrisNOR2]

Just watched the Whermacht Deep dive.Tanks look like small toys compared to Coh2. This looks like a re-skin of coh1. Wish they would have kept the direction of coh 2,the feel of big heavy tanks. You could really see and feel the weight when they drive. In this gameplay it looks like tanks are just floating around with paper weight. Also when the tanks explode it doesn’t look very good. The graphics looks very cartoonish to me. And where is the Panther??

[@jermasus]

Especially since a lot of the models were already recycled from coh2, the Tiger uses the same model, including the same mistakes.

[@childofconvienience]

@@jermasus Dude - let them recycle as much as they can. Creating new models is such a costly business that developers can be thankful for everything that does not need to be created another time. And me and you as a consumer can be happy, because that money can be used for different developments. I have worked in the gaming industry. Trust me - recycling is not only good practice, its necessary today.

[@Edo_Ginting]

@@childofconvienience As long as it feels new recycling is fine

[@Edo_Ginting]

Panther is doctrinal, similar to the Panzer Elite in CoH 1

[@naksachaisaejane1982]

@@Edo_Ginting panther before coh3 never was doctrinal. Call-in, sure, but call-in and doctrinal is not exactly the same.

[@csabas.6342]

18:12 ah I miss company of heroes...

[@MathiasCzR01]

Will it be possible to change the Unit Icons into NATO standard identification?

[@pruntschischmurky7560]

I think it was really weird that the flak 38 was not only decrewed by an air attack but also got completely destroyed in the followup... considering it should soft counter air abilities

[@internettroll1985]

I should wait for the winter update patch 2024👍☺️

[@maloo2brvo26]

Will we have powerful indirect fire artillery options like CoH2?

[@maloo2brvo26]

Company of heroes was my childhood. I have high hopes for the game but also am cautious with it.

[@Geerterig]

This looks real good. Super happy with how this looks and the improveements made since the last beta I played.

[@MERV_]

Please add the possibility to zoom out more, i hate having to use mods that no one else uses to see everything comfortably.

[@levrur7913]

No

[@stsk7]

Looks great. Im wondering if they'll make the shell impact of vehicles seem more hard hitting. When a tank gets hit it looks like nothing but a slap on the back, whereas coh2 had this large *BANG* followd by the whole vehicle lurching and swaying

[@moecullen100]

So hyped this is coming to consoles

[@lGuzikl]

What happens if you pick up a weapon like BAR on granadiers and then turn then in to jaegers or pgrens? BAR gets lost or transfers over?

[@whatdothlife4660]

almost certainly gets removed

[@pistonaru]

Can't wait

[@anthropox3]

Just wondering if we can rebind the hotkeys in COH3?

[@luisfernandoalmeida5707]

how's the performance? would a RX 5500 xt be able to handle it?

[@crowrider199]

add options to remove.... decalls ,side hit rear hit warnings and animations and seclection circles .....

[@isaacgentz3319]

57:35 - anyone notice the donkeys standing there? I don't remember any livestock in the previous games not being deceased...

[@felixalexisortizlagos6904]

i already preorder the game on steam, i really need to play this

[@MrRiversand]

I think I need to fix a lot of things here and there. It has a history of making many similar games. Even after producing the previous two previous works and the WARHAMMER40K series, it does not look much better. It seems to be obsessed with unnecessary parts. I am worried that if it is developed as it is, it will be properly made apart from reviving the expectations of the fans.

[@Sunbeam21]

I think you need to fix your English first

[@borderreaver4615]

Did they completely scrap the realistic damage models for the vehicles?

[@arcturus64]

it would be nice if we could move the unit icons back to the top right of the screen like in previous games.

[@Mani-tg4kq]

bra how do you go backwards in graphics and vfx after 10 years of improvements in hardware

[@xara505]

No access to a *general pool* AT gun on Wehrmacht? What?!

[@Casualfield]

The 1990s called, they want their UI back.

[@HopeForPeave]

Please increase population cap… there werent enough troops on the field towards end game and it was at79/100

[@Mordo_47]

I wonder if there will be an option to choose a random faction in automatch, as it was in coh1

[@chomis5000]

The UI is way better but the hotkey backgrounds still look kind of off.

[@RS-kt6is]

it looks more cartoon-ey compared to CoH2 and 1. Also what are those coming from the top, mortars? no explosions?

[@ginger7288]

Is it me or does the HUD look way too big?

[@ivankalich2874]

Can we get demo without time limit?

[@trabuco9]

I think a skirmish match, locked in one faction with one doctrinal option would be a good method to do this.

[@jacktaylor6135]

Good to see them working on it, please don't have a botched launch. I would like to see more competitive game arenas to bring more market to the game.

[@ElConquistadordeAmor]

Game looks fantastic. Could you please show more of the tech building that has the Panzergrenadiers in it? You didn't showcase or talk about 25% of the entire faction in this video.

[@Turican76]

Game looks fantastic? its not 2013

[@jakbaillie2563]

Like the graphical update but hope you give the panzers period accurate camo instead of the early war grey

[@maelradec7897]

They better have a campaign

[@volimcvarke8437]

Guys hope the game will be available on GeForce Now cant wait

[@Norfen_Red]

I've been hoping for this too! Hopefully since SEGA allowed some of the total war games to get put on we'll see it

[@splooshy4014]

Yes, I too hope it's available on Geforce Now! Make it happen, Nvidia!

[@CtrlAltRetreat]

Rofl, first view of coh3 nearer release and I see usf blobbing into mgs and flak, wehr getting punched in the face stalling for a tiger, tiger diving and getting almost immediately punished for it, the game reversing back from a lucky bounce. It's like coh1-2 tier 8-12 matching memes rolled into a trailer

[@jrm8206]

I want to see the tactical map. How did this player not use it once the entire game? :)

[@internettroll1985]

🗺️ map hacking NO!

[@garlkurzer]

Bottom left

[@whatdothlife4660]

They refuse to answer questions or acknowledge the tacmap not being in the game yet for some suspicious reason.

[@chomis5000]

theyre watching a replay in the game not the game footage, there would be no way of knowing if the player used tac map. Although im sure tac map will be in the game no worries.

[@whatdothlife4660]

@@chomis5000 How are you sure?

[@khaledaboshady6386]

Is the game gona be listed at XBOX Game bass at realese

[@centuriosupernumerarius1625]

Is there a confirmed reason why the Panther is missing? Is it because of the game setting or just lazy from relic? Because in CoH2 both the Wehrmacht and the OKW had access to the Panzer V Panther. The setting is probably no excuse, because the Panzer IV Brummbär and Panzer VI Tiger, who where produced in smaller numbers as the Panzer V Panther are part of the game. It is kinda disappointing.

[@Dunkerque351]

I’m coming from the perspective of someone who plays mostly 1v1s and the Panther being a doctrinal unit(I’m guessing its doctrinal) is perfectly fine in my book. The P4 being spammed in numbers is usually favored over Panthers.

[@centuriosupernumerarius1625]

@@Dunkerque351 It would be a little bit disappointing if the Panzer V would be demoted to a doctrinical unit, but if it is in the game, I am happy nontheless. I like the Panzer V and always favor him over the Panzer IV. And I am also a fan of big unit roosters, even if you have plenty of unnecessary units, you have them and you could play them. What I have seen so far of this game, I am not that excited about the amount of playable troops.

[@Kronosaur0s]

@@centuriosupernumerarius1625 Panther is doctrinal. confirmed

[@centuriosupernumerarius1625]

@@Kronosaur0s Ok, thank you for sharing the information. I am reliefed that it is in the game, yet somehow disappointed, because it is doctrinal.

[@bro3217]

@@centuriosupernumerarius1625 thank the allied fanboys in coh2. The same people that ruined coh2 will unfortunately ruin coh3. These people think that german tanks should be on the same level as their allied counter parts despite costing double the resources and being very specialized in certain categories.

[@Graun]

Why do the units and vehicles/tanks look worst than the original CoH?

[@gregmccartney5780]

How does it rate against CH2??

[@nbaumg]

HYPE

[@囧囧]

They talk a lot about the game, but I care more about how they support the community. Do they want to support more community content than Company of Heroes 2?

[@panzertank1985]

German Late game look kind of weak comparing to CoH2. Without Commander Heavy Armor I doubt they can actually hold the line with Panzer IV.

[@internettroll1985]

Wait for the winter update 2024 😂