Weight in the Name of Protection!

How much weight you can add in the name of protection and when it becomes too much? These are the questions that I will try to answer in this video.
If you open a website like Touratech you will find thousands of options to protect any motorcycle, right? There will be at least 20 different items for your model, and it doesn't matter how old or new it is. The example that I am going to give you is my Tenere 700.
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[@PetterIvarsson]

Yes so right! I laid my Tenere on the floor and could barely get it up. So this winter I will shred of as much as possible. I also carry most my luggage as Adam Reiman in two bags below each side of the tank to keep the weight lower.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for taking the time!

[@RideMoreNow]

This confirms my exact experience. I bought a slightly used T7 that the previous owner had equipped with nearly everything in the yamaha catalog (thinking it was a great deal): Aluminum panniers and racks, rear tail rack and top case, rear seat rack, crash bars with LED lights with their own metal crash guards, skid plate, and center stand. I had sold a 1090r wanting something lighter and easier to handle, but the T7 was awful, just as heavy and tippy. I sold that and bought an 890R and only fitted the somewhat svelt KTM rear side racks, and that's it. It needs nothing more for my puposes, and the weight difference is astounding.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@iobawan]

Ok Pavlin, if you are pausing even video I'll write a comment! I'm 3 season rider (all one motor -- nc700). I have only crash bars because I want repair less in case of high/low side. The crashbars however benefited me in unexpected way -- saved my right leg to be jammed by car, that was blindly switching lanes. Car door slightly hit the crashbar + I destroyed dude's mirror with my right handle bar. Likely didn't fall over

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@siulgonzalez]

Interesting video. It is always a balance. How likely to break / critical / expensive /heavy is a piece vs. the protection? In my opinion, if bike designers took protection and practicality as criteria they could design things in a way that minimized the need for aftermarket parts. For instance, foldable mirrors, blinkers and levers, low and sturdy plastic tank (as in KTM), holes or straps to grab the bike instead of bars, cheap to replace plastic panels, integrated luggage that didn't need an external subframe, etc.

[@motorcycleadventures]

True

[@trevorduffin9648]

BMW G650gs set up for travelling. I have found bark busters and soft panniers are good at keeping the side panels off the ground on the occasional drop. Coupled with headlight and radiator protection plus aluminium bash plate and the bike holds up well

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@churovmotofun]

Problemyt is not in the offered protections, but in the fact that some bikers try and manage to mount them all :) . I support the minimum protection - if you overdo it, it turns from protection into a danger - mainly because of weight and imbalance... Another great lesson...

[@motorcycleadventures]

Agree!

[@teneretraveller8980]

Pukka Enduro and dirt bikes have nothing apart from gand guards and bash plate. For a reason. Makes a lot of sense. Ride safe and happy travels 👍

[@motorcycleadventures]

Absolutely!

[@heinschwartz7941]

Once again a very needed conversation Pavlin - well spoken 👍

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks, man!

[@PatchedBandit]

Many riders buy thousands of euros worth of protection and never even go offroad or travel with the bikes. I believe it's just decorative even though many won't admit it 😁

[@motorcycleadventures]

Exactly!

[@aldra744]

If you buy bike for 25-30 k and plan to sell it in near future it makes sense;) If you buy a tool and have a bunch of money it not..

[@EssexCountyPhoto]

Because of course, crashing on tarmac or being rear-ended by a blind c*nt smoking cannabis in his shitty drug-dealer 3-series BMW (true story!) doesn't need protection. You're a genius.

[@KwafoAcquaahArhin]

I don't know about the t700 but If you crash and the steer is turned in or out, you micht hit the side hard. It's just about what is behind the panels. On my f850GS adventure there was nothing critical behind the panels, so no upper crash bar needed. On my new bike, the norden 901, thee radiator might get damged on a big hit, so I do need upper crash bars, same on my Terra 650, it also needed upper crashbars to protect the radiator. But the t700 is a bike that crashes well I think.

[@motorcycleadventures]

That's why I suggest to inspect it closely.

[@Dedalus11973]

great video Pavlin! Weigt always matters in long distance trips! Many use the adventure bikes to go to the bar on a Saturday braving the dunes of the city😂😂😂😂😂 what can you do!

[@motorcycleadventures]

Well... we live in a free world.

[@massaveed55]

F800GSA here, it came with touratech top crashbars and all... too heavy and robust for me, the motorcycle feels better without it 😅

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@arnokonrad7464]

You mentioned it correct: What is Adventure? Therefore I started reducing weight By choosing a KTM690 and mounted softbags for 10l each, Max. 170 kg total finally! Honestly I tell you to Carry my bike with car and Trailer to the starting Point of my Adventure-Tour, avoiding k‘s boring km at the Highway, 👍your vids, Stay tuned

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@josepg.2479]

The key is, to be a real adventure biker or just to have an adventure looking bike and touch the off road when they go to a dirt parquing

[@motorcycleadventures]

Whatever works!

[@VictorSawula]

Totally agree with You Pavlin

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@TheAlfador]

I used to dislike your opinions on protection and weight when I started but now I'm totally agreeing I think engine protection is all I need because I'm on paved roads 95% of the time I use my smaller 450cc naked bike more than my 650cc adventure because it's heavy with protection lol

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@AA-wd2or]

Skidplate, barkbusters and radiator (stronger sideplates - not crashbars) protectors.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@pawelwis7215]

It all depends on the weight of the rider. If you weigh 100 kg, 10 kg more won't make much of a difference, but if you weigh 60 kg, it will.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@yorkchris10]

What is damage in science? Damage is any change in a thing, often a physical object, that degrades it away from its initial state. It can broadly be defined as "changes introduced into a system that adversely affect its current or future performance". I believe there are laws as to what one can put in front of a headlight in certain countries. I was in one country with a lot of dirt highway and people would tape cardboard over their headlights. One guard I've seen allows one to put a lens or wire mesh or both in front of the light. Other than cleaning, the lens is more effective for protection against damage. The cylinders on a Boxer BMW are exposed. Stone strikes, falls on terrain or when scraping a plastered wall as you manoeuvre in tight spaces make it easy to scratch the valve cover. On the 1250s shift cam engines there's also the issue that the construction of the shift cam mechanism is extremely elaborate. Since the valve covers are mounted solely using force locking, there is a risk that the valve cover can be displaced relative to the cylinder head after any violent impact and the elaborate valve drive can be pulled along with it in certain instances. This is why the additional protection of the valve cover is of particular importance.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for taking the time!

[@2wheels.are.better.than4]

Skid plate and hand guards is all I have on my T7. If I break the upper plastics, I’ll replace them with the indestructible CamelADV ones.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@billhamilton2366]

Christmas presents for your bike.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Cool!

[@nasirbasra]

Pavlin what we do with our heavy weight pillion 😅

[@motorcycleadventures]

Leave her at home!

[@PetrolMachine]

I have ktm 890 and this beast doesnt need any protection at all :-D I love it :-D

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@nadigashvin]

hah so funny. I just removed my crash guards yesterday for good and then there's this video.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@ebiebrahimi7472]

Btw Thank you so much for this video .

[@motorcycleadventures]

My pleasure 😊

[@ElDuderino999]

Common observation: The more a bike _looks_ like ‚Adventure‘ the less money is left for _actual_ ‚Adventure‘ (trip money, repair money, proper training) 😅 Europe is full of pretentious big ‚Adventure’ labeled 1000+ cc bulldozers (BMW GS being the most common and most boring sighting), with all those gadgets, but which haven’t seen a mile of dirt road.

[@motorcycleadventures]

True

[@ebiebrahimi7472]

People add many protections to make the bike heavier . First attempt to pick it up they have to go to hospital to do the surgery on their back or their testicles which is swollen now . 😅 in the other hand heavier bike make the handling more difficult and cause crash . It’s just all marketing .

[@motorcycleadventures]

True

[@LARPDParks]

If your bike is so heavy it's gonna break itself to bit's when down. Then that means you have a too heavy of a bike in the first place

[@motorcycleadventures]

True!

[@daveo9844]

Spending some money on rider training will reduce the amount of time you drop your bike 😉

[@motorcycleadventures]

Very true!

[@beddccom]

I'm only worried about the radiator (side, not front end). Maybe some simple protection for it without crashbar?

[@gbner9991]

CamelADV apparently is building something to protect the radiator without crashbars...

[@motorcycleadventures]

Yes, tough side panels.

[@EssexCountyPhoto]

What a lot of rubbish. If one rider is 100kg and the other one 60kg, the second one could add 40kg of equipment and the total woukd be the same...

[@superwag634]

Yes, because the 60kg rider is just as strong in lifting a fallen bike as a 100kg rider. Fool 😂

[@motorcycleadventures]

Wrong math!

[@IEGastaldo]

Thanks for this video. Coming from a motocross background, my T7 is a monster "weight-wise"... I've seen people loading so much stuff onto their bikes that they have a very hard time lifting them up if they manage to fall. IMHO, the lighter the bike, the better. I'm a 5'7" 160lbs guy, and every little bit of weight off my bike counts!

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@gbner9991]

One of your best videos Pavlin, I fully agree with the fact that people put too much weight on these middle weight bikes. They still think they have a light bike because it says 205kg on the spec sheet, but it's actually much heavier after all the weight of accessories.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Exactly!

[@thanhnguyenuc8545]

there are a lot of videos on the net where people load their adv/touring (mostly gs1250/gs1300) bikes like pickup trucks, it's hilarious!

[@argomotoriders]

So few comments that sort of go against your points a bit, though I agree overall. I ran my 310GS without any of the protection except skid plate and hand guards. My 21' AT IS NOT THE SAME. The first time I dropped my bike off-road without anything but a skidplate, I broke the upper hard plastic fairing. Well cracked it, first drop on rocks and many would replace it. Now partly bad luck, but a lot of that is just due to the design of the bike. If I dont have upper crash bars I would have had to replace at least my upper fairings by now, if not blinkers and etc... If you rarely drop your bike off road, well you likely arent pushing yourself, and dont need the protection anyway. I also went down on pavement at about 30MPH with upper, lowers, and the rear rack for bags. I re-painted the crash pars, replaced the foot peg that got mangled, and its basically impossible to tell. Try the same thing without any protection.... Basically, good video, yet its all relative to you, your bike, and the type of riding you do.

[@MrRodwatson]

Solid points.

[@Braapncamp]

Totally agree, i don't like the weight or the looks of all that protection i see out there. I have been fine with minimum of optional protection. But i have also seen some bikes with essential functionalities very exposed, if thats the choice of bike it needs to be considered.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Agree!

[@Budschidau]

True story. Shaved off 20 kg of my 1190 Adv R by removing the central stand, crash bars, driver peg rubbers, passenger pegs, passenger handles, cast steel luggage rack, tools and by changing mirrors and exhaust. Too much shit installed just to make buyers happy and convince GS drivers to a KTM (which did not work). Feeling way more nimble anf agile now. Weight matters!

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@aldra744]

Pavlin, nice vid, but why you are so absest with bike weight? You do not cary it on your shoulders, bike cary it. So if you do not do mid/hard enduro you do not need worry too much. I drive 1250 gs with guards, paniers and my wife thousands of km different terrain with out any problem. So if you do not plan compete in Dakar rally, 230 or 260 kg are not game changer.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Because the weight will limit my trips and I wouldn't be able to visit the places that I like. I am not European highway traveler.

[@aldra744]

220 or 260 in standard gravel roads and forest roads no difference, if you go hard off road / endure then 220 kg is also too much I agree

[@motorcycleadventures]

40 kg is a big difference, but do whatever is good for you.

[@steve00alt70]

I find it very confusing and difficult to understand why riders are more concerned about protecting their bike more than investing in their own body and head safety protection.

[@samsaab1225]

I respect and admire your persistence on weight. It is very important and I experienced it. Actually, the higher guard protection caused my motorcycle to be disposed after an accident where this protection was connected to chassis and caused it to bend…repair is more expensive than a new one! Fortunately, it was the other driver fault and the replacement cost was covered In a nutshell, I learned my lesson. I have a lower engine guard minimalist and hand guard protection. Totally enough, once the bike fell on the ground in the garage and the only damage was on the hand guard and the lower engine guard which is meant to be. Happy for that. By the way, what about boots weight? :) is your Revit lighter than your old SiDi?

[@motorcycleadventures]

They are about the same weight.

[@HolgiSchumacher]

Hey Pavel, great Video! I used to build my bikes like a christmas tree in the past. When I bought my T7, I recognized that less is often more! I have installed Crash Bars but mainly to add bags so I have the luggage front an low.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@spookyoffroadoverlanding7147]

I have just started watching your channel and I very much agree with you re accessories and weight. When I want something on my bike the first question is how much does it weigh. However I do have engine guards manly because I exceed my ability too often and have even had to replace one side of the guards. I also travel on single trails and rough areas and desert and like to go hard sometimes. I bought a KLR650 so i didn't have to worry to much. it's not the best handling machine and I mostly camp so have more weight. The KLR has a large fuel capacity and there are places down under where outback tracks are more than 400km and I have carried a 10lt fuel drum that gets emptied asap. Yes the poor bush pig gets heavy and works hard. As I have just turned 64 years old I intend to take things a little more cautiously. I am looking to upgrade my soldier with a T7 and that was how I came across your channel. I am working through your videos and enjoying. Thanks Richo from Down under.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@krzysiek.80]

When I put my CRF1000L 2019 on the weight with all protection and extras it shown 265kg, starting from original 225kg. Just after my measurements I removed everything. Believe me how lighter my bike feels after that. No more … agree with you Paulin.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing your experience!

[@lequan8766]

What you put increase 40kg to your bike 😢

[@krzysiek.80]

@@lequan8766 I was either surprised. They measure bike from factory very incomplete, I guess, so starting point is even shifted. Plus added center stand, rear rack plus top box and side carriers for panniers. That’s all.

[@AA-wd2or]

So many have over 16.000eur bikes , spend all they can on mods and in one year made just 3000 km

[@motorcycleadventures]

True!

[@onthepegs]

I see your Einhell RT-CD 10.8V battery screwdriver on your wall! :) I have the same from 2014, still worksperfectly :)

[@motorcycleadventures]

Mine is two years old. Works without any problems.

[@vstromxt3799]

Protect your bike based on your needs and real practice..

[@motorcycleadventures]

Exactly!

[@bigjoe4020]

I find it quite amusing how so many people go on a about a kilo here and 2 kilo there. My bike is .....please sit down Pavel so you don't faint ......are you sitting ?.....ok... it is 430kg before luggage and rider ! Maybe now you can see why these weight discussions are so amusing 😂

[@motorcycleadventures]

Yes, for many they are pointless.

[@anthonyturner3238]

I spent over £1300 on plastics etc for my Honda ATAS 2021 ! Put heed crash bars on off road road had two right side drops with no damage except. Silver paint on bars £200 well spent . Can’t keep giving mr Honda £1300 for plastics etc

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@smeclau]

So 200-205kg bike came to be a "mid-weight"?!? Go figure, 20 years or so ago the 950 adventure with about 200kg came out and I thought it was a huge (yet fast) behemoth. Then we were thinking things could only get faster and lighter. But no. Like Peter Thiel said, we wanted flying cars and we got 140 characters. Evolution without real challenges is actually involution.

[@motorcycleadventures]

This is the modern reality.

[@shosholozabalafon2436]

I've bought my T7 with yamaha crashbars, rear rack end rally bashplate and a couple other accessories and i've always wonder how much more agile it could feel without all that stuff . After watching this vid i'll keep the standard Africa twin i've just ordered stock with minimal protection, just the low engine guard and barkbusters so it"ll be just 8 kgs heavier than the Ténéré i had. Thank you for the vid it realy helped me👍

[@motorcycleadventures]

I am glad the video helps!

[@alexakkers2859]

Okeeeeeey! I have a Tenere 700 and i did spend some money in the Axp nylon bash plate, also in motea crush bars… why…? The protection is need it…but I cannot denny the racing adventure cool factor…

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@leclerq6230]

Combine Colin Chapman (Lotus) and Adam Riemann (Motology FIlms): Simplify and add lightness. And get the weight down between the wheels!

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@francoisscherman7140]

As an ex super-bike racer I tend to look at the whole thing differently. I try and remove as much of the unsprung weight as possible from my bike. Ie catalyst and stock exhaust evn the bolts get a trim as far as possible. I have shaved about 10kg from my 790R. Makes a huge difference specially as the bike is tall already for my 178cm frame

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@richardahola692]

My buddy bought a Tiger 800 XCX. It has protection over everything. Nice beefy skid plate, engine guards and a clear plastic shield over the headlight. I think it is all original. I was thinking of putting a skid plate in my Goldwing. Took out the water pump on a curb. Easier to not ride over curbs. I had a skid plate on my 400 adventure bike but it filled with oil when I drained the oil. Need to rework the mounts for easy removal.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Snowhite808]

we are a suspension workshop for bikes. We mostly do travel bikes and some offroad-ish machinery too. We never do the setup on theoretical basis - but we always weigh the bike and customer. The amount of crap people like to hang to the bikes, is just amazing. And one would say - if You really like it, then it is ok. But at least be smart enough to take it into account. we have yet to see any tenere go out with less than 225kg or Africa twin - to be less than 250 kg. The bigger he bike, the more You can add, without it making it a problem. +15kg on a 150kg bike, is big difference, especially when mounted in a bad spot.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@megaidiot]

My bike came heavy out of the factory, and I bought it with about 10kg of crashbars which I removed when I had to fix it - and never put it back. Did i fall off the bike later, without the crashbars? Yes, once I forgot the disk lock and once I forgot I had a panniers on. It was easier to lift the bike up without that extra 10kg :D

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@pureblood2020]

The headlight on my motorcycle is one piece & cost $2,100 usd if it needs replaced. I have headlight protection for that reason.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@webmuir]

Bash plate, robust hand/lever guards and double jointed mirrors for me. A hole in the sump, snapped lever or smashed master cylinder bracket makes progress difficult, whereas a bit of cosmetic damage doesn’t change the experience one bit.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@izwanizi]

I add weight to my bike by installing some crash bar because i do some workout...its kinda exercise with your best friend..😂😂😂😂😂

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@giuliobuccini208]

I always asked myself why the motorcycle fairings are not made of some kind of different density foams to absorb impacts. There are so many fantastic materials nowdays that I'm really puzzled that we are still using steel pipes like on a tank... Consider the material for body protection as example. They are amazing. Couldn't they be used as fairing components too?

[@motorcycleadventures]

Maybe in the future...

[@jimh2061]

Im a new older rider and I have layed my bike down a couple times and the engine guards have been great. Full protection.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@skulijakobsson5116]

Buy...buy....buy...buy!!!! Black Friday 🤡🤡🤡 Not on this channel. Much Enjoyment 👍😎

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@Krom1hell]

I only have a pair of sliders and after 2 small falls from minimal speeds, with only them hitting ....during a trip one fell off in trafic....screw was bent probably and broke in time.... Spent almost the same amount to dig the screw out of the engine block as a set of new plastics......😂😂

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@adaptableadventurerider]

Absolutely fascinating Pavlin, i was posting on one of the forums, the other day Horizons Unlimited, previously i had a 300 Rally, and now the T7 which we just got, i said it was not top heavy compared to my 1150gsa and on a green lane in the Uk i found the T7 more managable than the 300 Rally and not top heavy. They were convinced i was wrong after watching this i think they must have had upper crash bars on theres which they had sold. 110% agree the last thing i want is to turn the light and managable T7 into a bike that weighs as much as my 1150gsa. Im just planning on frame protectors a bash plate and hand guards :) Which centre stand do you have on yours Pavlin? Thanks for sharing again Pavlin big help.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Any time! The center stand is from a Romanian brand Heavy Duties: heavyduties.ro/product/yamaha-tenere-700-center-stand/

[@adaptableadventurerider]

@@motorcycleadventures thanks Pavlin I'll check that out :)

[@lonewolf7519]

Spot on! You are so right. Have some extra weight on my Africa Twin, crashbars and a lot of other stuff. Now I've gone for a lighter bike - an Aprilia Tuareg 660 - and will start off with a minimum of extra weight. I will see how it works, but No1 for now on will be to keep the weight very low. Thanks for all your great videos! Take care and Cheers!

[@Roberta_Esposito]

shift lever on Tuareg snaps off in a heartbeat. dont ask….

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@44degreesmotorcycleadventures]

A lighter bike with protection! That is the aim! Ténéré is not a light bike as with most the all so called adventure motorcycles. That don't even see a dust road in their life time 👍

[@motorcycleadventures]

Most of them yes

[@say10rules666]

I just got a T7, and instead of adding protection, I am putting it in a diet to loose weight. The only Protection I plan on adding is a water pump guard. Well and a luggage rack, My goal is to drop as much weight as possible

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@falseneutral7890]

I’m guessing SW-motech nor Touratech are going to be calling you any time soon 😂 Though I command you for addressing the elephant in the room 👌🫵

[@motorcycleadventures]

They are welcome!

[@ennisventer8038]

Thx, good information. I’m very curious why they would sell protection for your protection 😂. Ride safe.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good question!

[@molluscturtle]

I’ve a Ténéré and the number of dreamers buying these things (same could be said of any of these type of bikes) who will never, due to desire or ability, take these off-road but yet load them up with every single bolt on accessory just makes me laugh. I’m in complete agreement on all this video - Adam Reimann says the same.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@TheWuseln]

No protection whatsoever on my bike cause I'm a city slicker, my bike goes only from home to the next bike cafe.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@WadeCarberry]

Just ptotect the parts that will be trip ending if you drop it. Cosmetic stuff just replace when it won't stay on the bike anymore or when it is time to clean it up to sell, probaly cost you less than all the protection and all the protection would be scratched/damaged when you sell it.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Exactly!

[@dougiverson4297]

Great video. I have tried to go minimal protection with my CB500X. The bash plate is a must for this bike, barkbusters, and stronger handlebars. Not much else, although my luggage racks with soft bags obviously add a layer of protection. It is not often, I ride without the soft bags but on short day trips that is no problem. You have me thinking about my tools and luggage. I carry enough tools to do a rebuild of the bike, so can probably lose some weight there. But, with travelling alone and remote I find I carry too much weight in needing to be self sufficient. I am usually not remote enough I could get rid of all cooking gear, and eat a good meal at a restaurant at noon every day and eat the leftovers at night, but I enjoy the cooking part at the end of the day and breakfast coffee. I carry a very light, small headlight protector I put on when on gravel with lots of big trucks throwing up rocks. I gave a thumbs up, and subscribed. I found the video on the CB500X forum, where one of your followers posted it. Now I am going to search, how you get to 15 kg of luggage when I have closer to 50, which includes about 5 kg of tools (wrenches, JB weld, parts, …) but that does not spare tube and compressor. Thanks again.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@bryanreeme8584]

I ride a kkr gen2.. Everything I've been suggested on the forums is useless sheep-feed, & time has proven that to me

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@yveslegrand9826]

It makes a lot of sense ! If the bike is heavier it will damage itselft even more easily because the Energy is proportionnal to Mass... The question is not how much added weight is protection worth, its rather what can you REMOVE from the original bike to make it lighter at first. Many adventure bikes are already stupidly heavy and if you plan to use them as real adventure bikes it makes sense to select a light one first and then to remove any unecessary mass : Passenger suff => foot pegs, sadle, handles... Look => any cowling that's not necessary for the bike to work proprerly. Anything you don't absolutly NEED is a wasted load. Keys, mirrors, reflectors. Then you can start replacing the absolutly necessary parts with... lighter versions. Aluminum foot pegs and handle bar, battery (LiPo), screws (Alu or titanium), side (and or center) stand... the limit is the cost and time you can spend. Then you can consider adding some protection where you feel you need it most but remeber if you drop a feather from the second flor, it will not be much damage to it, if you drop an elephant with an amor it will probably not survive....

[@motorcycleadventures]

Very well explained, thank you!

[@ogasi1798]

most people are magpies (they like shiny new things to smile about) - the industry knows this and exploits it, it should of course in order to make money from people wherever it can, what i find funny is most bikes i see (and i bet you see them too) that are kitted out to the nines are never seen anywhere where they need the gear, it is fashion mostly - weird but that is human, or at least some of human - the term 'adventure' needs to die if you ask me, it is now a moniker of being a sucker for anything that can be added to a bike

[@motorcycleadventures]

True!

[@KeepItSimpleSailor]

Interesting vid and comments. Go minimal, minimise weight is my approach. First level protection for my 2023 CB500x is a bash plate (once smashed a hole in the main casing), radiator guard (once majorly punctured an oil cooler on a DR650), and some decent foot pegs (better control avoids the problem generally). Next level is some new ASX ‘unbreakable/folding’ levers and I’m about done. And yes, I use the bike off-road, I come from a dirt bike background, and I ‘enjoy’ that sort of riding (especially twin track) heaps 😁 As to other protection I hate the weight, and for the first time I’ve got a comprehensive insurance. So, a headlight smashed, major body damage, or anything from being collided with (none of which has ever happened, and I ride to survive) are pretty much covered for replacement/repair. And my son is an apprentice spray painter, so that might help one day.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@McPappan]

I like to carry small bags on my engineguards, dual purpurse👍 🙂

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@hogueraleksander5868]

The more shit you add to the bike, the cooler it looks going to Starbucks, prove me wrong 😅😂.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Yes, many will like it, but not me!

[@rogerdepretto440]

Palvin on the other side is if you're sending your bike overseas by plane the heavier the bike the more it costs.😊

[@motorcycleadventures]

True

[@s151669]

It indeed is surprising how even a little extra weight can affect handling. I have a 220kg cruiser I took on a overnight trip. Filled my smallish panniers, strapped tent & sleeping bag across rear fender. Took off. Instantly wondered what was wrong with the handling of the bike.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@orlandovftw]

DUDE, I was literally just about to pull the trigger on a set of engine guards, now I'm not so sure. I DO use my DR650 like a true adventure bike, it sees approximately 50/50% dirt and road usage. I have dropped it on service roads with mango-sized rocks more times than I can remember (hence me thinking about adding more protection for those long trips away from civilization). Not that I can't have an accident, but the engine area, now that I think about it, is still as fresh as it looked when I first bought the bike. The handguards, skidplate, forks, pegs, and fenders have seen way more hard impacts. Thanks for giving me something to think about.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Any time!

[@MultiHolling]

I remember your sentence: " Weight is always matter". I am curious, despite my knowledge of Cyrillic, who is man on picture above you?

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for watching! His name is Vasil Levski: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasil_Levski

[@frankmercer7009]

Engine guars protect more that just the engine. I was T-boned while riding my 2012 Tiger 800. The only thing that kept my left ankle from being crushed by the car that hit me was the lower engine guards. The bike was written off as a total loss. My left ankle was pretty sore with some bruises, but no broken bones. I will always have engine guards for that reason.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@davecarrera]

I wear my protection. Anything on a bike can be replaced. I can not. My CB500F will have a small windscreen, 50L top box for my photography gear and grip guards, that's it. A very good video sir.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Micr0chiP]

For some people the adventure is buying new toys to put on their bike :)

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@perto6747]

You forgot to subtract weight of your wallet when buying all that stash

[@motorcycleadventures]

True

[@nikoscosmos]

Adding weight high is not good! Think Christmas tree...

[@motorcycleadventures]

True

[@Vilmantas_A]

Perfect video. Very helpful. Thanks and keep going. People who travel longer or shorter trips on motorcycle will understand what do you mean.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks for taking the time!

[@joronator]

So nice to see a Bulgarian vlogger creating quality, informative, and entertaining content. Kudos!

[@motorcycleadventures]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@SaeshArban]

Unfortunately my bike has bad tail form and long exhaust, so I need a steel panier holder even for soft language system. And I use crashbars to protect my tanks, because find a new one for DR750 can be a really hard.

[@SaeshArban]

And btw, I never really care about my crasbarsh condition. Left side was 6 time broken, right side 2 times broke. All covered with scratches and bumps :D

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough!

[@attilapeter1765]

Am I the only one who feels that to reason to put protectors ( upper / lower engine guards) on the bike is because the original part is made from plastic what I (?we?) don't trust.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Interesting point of view.

[@attilapeter1765]

@@motorcycleadventuresOf course if you need to protect the engine (usually lower guards) are hardly recommended, etc.

[@guidok3762]

To many adds in your you tube films!!!! 😢👎

[@motorcycleadventures]

It is not my choice! Install add blocker.

[@steveball2307]

As Colin Chapman said - add lightness....

[@motorcycleadventures]

Good!

[@RonnieM]

An elephant is more likely to be dropped also.

[@motorcycleadventures]

True!

[@chegynas]

I disagree regards crash bars. I droped my bike in offroad without crash bars, the side fairings broke and other plastics around it including the metal holders underneath them. (Thats around 300-400€) if you buy original parts..

[@chegynas]

Therefore im buying the crashbars

[@motorcycleadventures]

Fair enough, but remember that there is no guarantee that you won't do it again, even with crash bars.

[@chegynas]

I agree, and some crashbars can add ~10kg :(

[@johnfallon6906]

Thank You !

[@motorcycleadventures]

Any time!

[@enduromotorradtouren]

You need a good bashplate when you leave asphalt. That's the most important thing. And you need good luggage. Many things just add weight and cost a lot of money. Perfect to impress people (and stay at home, as you pointed out so well), Happy travels, Günter/Nürnberg

[@motorcycleadventures]

Very true!

[@hondaexplorer]

Great video! I like to put my cb500x onto the trail quite a lot, and while I thought having the protection bars was a good idea when I first bought, I now have scratches behind the bars, I wonder if I’d be better off replacing all of the damaged panels when I choose to sell

[@motorcycleadventures]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Roberta_Esposito]

boom! 666 likes😮

[@motorcycleadventures]

Thanks, man!

[@ioandragulescu6063]

have you though about putting a lithium battery? you will save about 3 kilos with that and it's 3 kilos pretty high up.

[@motorcycleadventures]

I prefer to bet on reliability of the standard battery.

[@ioandragulescu6063]

@@motorcycleadventures my experience with them has been positive. I had SHIDO batteries in two bikes, with at total of more than 40.000 kms, a decent ammount of accesories fitted, like heated grips, heated jacket, GPS charging phones and what not and no issues. My big concern is fire but the better ones have a built in BMS (battery management system) that shuts down the battery in case of some serious problems.

[@motorcycleadventures]

Not really good on cold days and as you already mentioned might cause a fire.

[@ioandragulescu6063]

@@motorcycleadventures well, for cold starts just leave it for a minute with the contact on and the headlight consumption will "wake up" the battery. I know I said about the fire concern but these are LiFePo4 batteries, much safer than your usual phone lithium battery. But yeah, your choice :)