Welding Distortion Fundamentals

[@weldingtipsandtricks]

Welding Distortion can ruin your day. Here are some fundamentals to get the conversation started. hope you enjoy

[@boosted_l6787]

thats a great videoi have made a few service bodies for trucks,all the frame work is made out of inch square tube its like a maze of frame work i spend all this time getting the frame square and then weld it out and spend double the time getting it back square,i didnt realise the direction of weld had that much of an effect thanks again mate

[@Sicktrickintuner]

I learned first hand welding distortion, making rear leaf spring shackle brackets on my truck, made a basic flat plate bracket, tack welded the 3 pieces of 1/4" plate in a J shape, had everything fitting right and tight, let the welds cool and the gap i needed closed up 1/8" or so. had to cut it and reweld back together. Second side went much better after factoring in for shrinkage and came out perfect.

[@driveheronman4304]

fabulous demonstration Jody, good job..

[@GusozaAPASOL]

Marvelous video...

[@idriwzrd]

Thanks for another well made, informative video. Any tips on preventing warpage while perimeter welding large sheet steel?

[@markdaigle9766]

one of the best distortion videos I've seen, really good info to consider

[@briansmobile1]

I absolutely LOVE your teaching techniques and examples! This video really showcases your welding/teaching/editing talents.

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[@balisticsquirel]

I can see an event at the welding games coming from this. Everyone gets a tacked setup with the laser pointing away from the bullseye, and you get to weld for a certain limited time. Closest to the bullseye once everything's cooled off is the winner.

[@PANTYEATR1]

Jody, you're an amazing dude and this is an amazing video! I am school trained in welding technologies, I have 10 certifications total all tested by x-ray, I've done all processes even torch welding and brazing and even though my instructors were badasses, I learn the most from you. thank you for this knowledge...thank you!

[@jonathangarzon2798]

What's welding technologies?

[@SeamlessFab]

@@jonathangarzon2798Technology of welding

[@eddyoddrod]

I’ve watched many welding videos and you are the only person that even mentions distortion except for some auto body videos I’ve watched. Thanks for all you put into your videos. Truly educational

[@jameschrisdavis]

I dont think I can say enough how great this channel is. I introduced the channel to some of my co workers, and they love it.

[@Rowganlife]

BY FAR the best video instructional on heat distortion! this was exactly what i have been wanting to see, thank!

[@philipolsson7162]

I want to give the man behind weldingtipsandtricks kudos for making these videos, such great content. thank you for sharing your knowledge!

[@Blink_1984]

Stick 'em up! The best welding instruction on KZbin!

[@Dan.Whiteford]

What a cracking demonstration to clearly illustrate the issue and show what happens. looking forward to seeing more on this awkward topic.

[@ajmclaughlin1364]

Very well done! The illustration being made with the laser pointer really opens the viewers eyes and allows us to visualize the point being made Bravo

[@Rattletrap2]

Jody, This is fantastic! Great idea and demonstration. So much better than reading about something when you can see the results so clearly demonstrated. Don't know why I have never seen this type of demonstration before.

[@markd6777]

great Video Jody, I am currently still smarting from my latest project in my home shop/garage. I built a 9' tube bench using 1/8" and 0.100 thou tubing and ended up with some warpage between the the final table top and the floor. I was not happy but your demo with the laser pointer is a fantastic refresher on why I really need to keep paying attention to the direction or weld on EACH and EVERY side of the tubing faces...especially the legs. As always, you are a wealth of real world knowledge. Keep up the great work! Mark.

[@pierresgarage2687]

Hi Jody, This is one GOOD demonstration about warping...! Very explicit, if you have more like this you can add as many as you have. Those are things we don't always think of doing ourselves. Thanks for the intense teaching and sharing with all of us, Pierre

[@kalleklp7291]

Excellent video! I've never seen a test setup like this. It really visualizes the stress acting on the materials when applying heat to it. I used the welding method you described for a long time and it spared me a lot of grief and straightening things out afterward. Thanks for another great video. :)

[@intjonmiller]

Every video that gets any views will get some downvotes. But this one has just four down and over 1,000 up. That's the best ratio I think I've seen anywhere on youtube and perfectly illustrates how great it is. Thanks!

[@bobs12andahalf2]

Just had my worst snafu ever with distortion on a decorative thin tube handrail and started trawling the Tube for solutions. This is by far the best demonstration I've seen of how easy it is to screw things up.

[@MrGjcruz]

Welding Stainless pipe was the worst for weld distortion. We did a lot of "washing" over our welds to achieve straight butt joints or pipe to fittings for squareness. Great information on this video!

[@ZopcsakFeri]

I had long been intimidated by heat distortion in welding, but thanks to your genius idea, finally I understand a lot more than I used to! Thanks a million from Hungary!

[@rovidius2006]

In depth heated metal will like to expand more than the surrounding area but it cant because colder metal is stronger so atoms of metal structure will decide to flow sideways to a path of a lower resistance thus increasing in thickness .When it cools down area of increased thickness will pull back with more force thus bending it backwards or in ways dependent to how heat is applied .

[@boybroken]

looking forward to the rest of this series! its one thing to kinda get your head round the theories but to re affirm it with such visual clarity it excellent. much appreciated

[@jimmilne19]

Brilliant way to demonstrate clearly the movement in a joint while welding! The split screen was a great help. I hope you do more of this. I'm going to try this in my shop as a way of "controlling" welding shrinkage and expansion. Thanks a lot for this one. Excellent as usual.

[@javatreker]

Jody, thanks for the video. This demo should be in every welding/community/trades college across this country. I've been welding for 20 years and never once did I think about putting a laser pointer on and watching the results. Kudos to you. I learned something today. Thanks for that.

[@PhillipLandmeier]

This is great! The more of this, the better. Welding is a constant learning process. Like flying a plane or playing a musical instrument, no matter how good your are, there's always more, you can always improve. I found that after you get past learning how to produce good welds, and you start building things, distortion becomes the problem that constantly dogs you forever. There's no bulletproof solution to it. All you can do is minimize distortion, and there's a lot to know, and lots of "intuitions" to develop, in order to minimize it. So, everything you can present on this topic, I'm all ears. This is the real and constant problem when it comes to fabrication -- distortion.

[@marshalearp1]

Hi Jody, I really appreciate you doing this series on distortion. I was one person, at least, who offered this as a topic suggestion a few weeks ago. This has always been a source of problem for me, and although I have conquered it to some degree, I still have difficulty at times. Even this first video has offered some help that I will experiment with. So thanks again; you really do have an incredible talent for teaching. I never miss watching your weekly video.

[@chrisreyes87cr]

Every welder should watch and retain this valuable info. Genius. Thanks

[@insanity0x1]

Great vid Jodi! That's probably one of the most informational ones I've seen. Distortion is overlooked a lot of times; definitely learned something new today.

[@juarezvivo-sc2qi]

Thanks, I really appreciate you generously share your knowledge and experience with us, the people who is learning. Very illustrative your demonstration on all but especially in this video.

[@mujahadeenielazhaweebi383]

already knew most of what you said but geez its fantastic seeing it in action with a laser. what an excellent teaching tool Jody! long time watcher from Sydney Australia.

[@TheEmporiumOutdoors]

Jody, I think the deflection is caused by the shape of the material. It will expand more vertically because there is more material in that plane and less horizontally as its thinner. Love the videos and you are the best teacher on KZbin!

[@djack1948]

Really helped me to grasp the concept much better of how heat,direction of weld,can affect final outcome of your weld.Thanks so much.You will help us to be better at our trade

[@sjowe]

Very interesting video Jody! Distortion is absolutely a big deal to think about when you are welding. I did not expect the direction of travel had more to do with the distortion rather than which side you place the bead on. Thank you! /sjowe

[@aerialrescuesolutions3277]

Awesome and excellent once again. The first video of yours that I watched a year ago told me that your channel is the real source of consistent quality and practical experience , Totally worth each minute of our time. As a welding student for life, I learn new/ proven stuff each day. Jim

[@Portrayalpress]

Love your dedication to the art and craft. Thanks for sharing Jodie!

[@cookerbullock]

If watched two of your videos, I like them. I bought a harbor freight 90 amp flux welder. Thank you for taking time and sharing.

[@thebrokenbone]

this laser pointer idea is pure genius! i couldn`t believe my eyes and i am a little embarrased bc i have the notions wrong, gladly 360 wrong so i get mostly square but i tought the movement was THE OTHER WAY AROUND. humbling, always learning. thanks man. cheers. pete

[@thebrokenbone]

Mark Fryer hahahaha you`re right! i meant the effect of my wrongness is 360 but reading what i wrote it came that way.( note to self edit before hitting the send button...) i`ll get a laser pointer and start experimenting this will come handy anytime i want to "move" the welded pieces and i can`t count the times when this knowledge would have saved me hours of fiddling. sometimes the simplest ideas escape, Jody is a practical man with a practical approach. good he`s sharing his knowledge

[@Earthnewz]

what an amazing video. we all know metal distorts but to see it like this is brilliant

[@pusherpilot]

THis is an awesome illustration. Learned a ton. Thanks for posting

[@bkreadr2147]

I just wanted to say thank you for your informative vids iv alway been a good welder but the info you share help me to take my skills to the next level and now I'm welding better than ever once again thank you and keep those vids coming

[@4570levergun]

Man I see this a ton doing body work. I've learned you have to keep that heat spread out. Weld a little and move to another spot and weld some more. Great series!

[@ErwinEnterprises]

Very informative video. I learned something. This would be a great lesson for welding school. I'm looking forward to the rest of the video series. Thanks for your hard work, we appreciate it.

[@TFB82]

The execution of this video is brilliant.

[@GadsdenMerrill]

I like the split screen shots to show real time movement. Cool stuff! I'd really like to see this with stainless steel. I've had small flat stainless parts end up looking like a taco shell if there's too much heat...

[@russ8001]

I originally thought the laser was pointing along the bar-not away...I haven't had my coffee. Great videos-they (and a magnifying lens for my helmet) have really helped. Thanks!

[@lvfabrication6124]

Great video Jody.This is the kinda video I have been waiting for.Although all your videos are top notch.Thanks so much

[@bittechslow]

Hey Jody, as usual,great video,good stuff for the new guys.That book you got 'Metals and how to weld them' was given to me by my dad who was a boilermaker like me about 30 years ago when I started my apprenticeship,small world.

[@edmontonclassifieds8719]

Very good instructions in all your videos. Well done.

[@kiritibhattacharya2772]

Great, simple but effective presentation. Appreciated!

[@FullPenetrationWeldn]

More of these distortion videos. Learned a lot and would love to learn more! Thanks

[@harnesswinergy9785]

Thanks for such a wonderful demonstration. I have downloaded this video and shall be using as a remembrance note while doing welding. Thanks once again

[@YouTuber-mc2el]

I made a wood splitter to mount on my backhoe. I needed to build it with tight tolerances with what the backhoe needed for mounting. I placed small tacks to hold square. Then larger tacks. Everything held nice and square. Then I welded it up permanent. It pulled out of square. Not enough to effect the project. Steel was 1/2" 325A. Pulled a 1/16" in 16". Minimal I know but I would have thought that with heavy tacks it would have locked it in. I'm learning...everyday. Thanks for the schooling.

[@SBBlacksmith]

Awesome video. Keep up the great work. I am really looking forward to the rest of this series.

[@sevke2002]

Great lesson !!! Nice way to show how metal moves,thanks JODY

[@fastbusiness]

Thanks for all your instructions. I have had much trouble with distortion and am trying to learn how to deal with it. This does help.

[@JWW922]

Great demo, dramatic, easy to understand. Thank you for your time!

[@Lastmashstanding]

Great video! I'm learning and this has helped me see how much distortion can affect work.

[@buckhubach2720]

Good one Jody. I look forward to your new videos on Distortion

[@craigspakowski7398]

Hi Jody. I hope there are more videos on the distortion topic. This seems like something that is always discussed but rarely demonstrated. I need more tips so I can improve the quality of my work. Thanks

[@StormDogg]

Laser pointer=Brilliant!! Great demo. I fabricate stainless molds and hopefully won't have to use as many stiffeners and heat spots now to counteract shrinkage. Had no idea pre-heating minimized warpage. Might tinker around with that on some scrap 12 ga.

[@bittechslow]

The starting shot of the travelling weld is brilliant.

[@yourweddingdance]

Oh this is one one of the best videos out there!

[@mrblack61]

Had some problems with hinge assembly moving yesterday, fingers crossed for today :). Thanks Jody.

[@21gioni]

What a great idea using a laser to demonstrate the effects of heating and cooling. For aluminium I have used the locking technique with no bracing. welding all inside corners first. Then top and bottom. the sequence is important and you allow the distortion to work for you and not against you.

[@theslimeylimey]

I wish the welders where I work with cared enough about their trade to actually learn things like this. The fitter knows exactly what he's doing and how to weld but the welders routinely weld things the worse possible way for distortion and refuse to change or learn. It's very frustrating to see. I'm not even a welder but learn a lot from you.

[@tonythomas951]

Well damn, I wish I had seen this vid a long time ago. What a great idea. I just gotta say it, you are one smart puppy. Thank you.

[@LA3198]

Thanks Jody, another outstanding educational video.

[@billarroo1]

This stuff is ALWAYS interesting, as it is never exact no matter how long or much experience I have doing it. But it's fun !!😃😃😃 GREAT VIDEO. Thanks

[@richardallan455]

Hi Jody ,I am calling from a town on the N.E, coast namely, Arbroath,Scotland famous for the Smokie-smoked fish and the founder of Buick Motor Cars,David Dunbar Buick. Thank you for this visual example of distortion with square hollow section steel. I wish I had known more about this some 12 years ago. Can you confirm or debunk a question I have on the same topic-distortion. This is the job we have to weld frequently ,a steel rectangular frame,joined at each corner, inside ,outside top and bottom. So 4 locations per corner, at all the intersections,no missed welds.The job is to be Mig welded. It is square hollow section steel that has been cut at 45 degrees with a small gap( requiring a full penetration weld) and prepped with a bevel/chamfer on the diagonals and joined to make a rectangular frame. Now if there is an approved order in which to weld this, to minimize the distortion .then no textbook I have seen tells you this stuff.So some of the fabricators at my workplace have suggested an order to follow. It is all the inside,all outside,then one run initially in each chamfer but the preferred direction is from the inside to the outside of each chamfer,adding more runs as necessary once they have all had one run deposited.So is this order best practice?No mention or concerns have been made about the direction of travel for any of the other welds. Thanks again for your great insight and educational videos.

[@TheLightningStalker]

Not at all what I would've expected Welding and lasers, two of my favorite things!

[@snoopydoggy5196]

I sure learned a lot from this video. I remind myself everything I learned here every time I tig weld with my everlast tig welder.

[@themadmailler]

Awesome video! very interesting. can't wait for the next in the series.

[@465maltbie]

very interesting, good idea and I am looking forward to seeing where you go with this in the forthcoming videos. Used the tig finger day before yesterday, love that thing thanks again.

[@StHilaireRay]

I really enjoy watching your videos , keep up the good work.

[@ypaulbrown]

great Video Jody....learned some good stuff. By the way, at 25 feet, .083" movement is one minute of angle or 4.98" is one degree of angle, or at least close to that...Great Stuff Sir.....

[@TheBrick2]

Excellent video thanks. 2 questions. 1. On a butt joint do you ever start in the centrer of a joint and move out to pull in one direction then back in the other? 2. Is it common in some industries to use a method like the laser pointer or a dial indicator or two at the end or a work peace to get an idea of how the piece is distorting as the weld joint is welded up?

[@BillPhillips4]

Wow! What a great and simple way to demonstrate distortion! I learned a lot :-)

[@stefanm5636]

This man is living legend!

[@pixiepaws99]

This is excellent. I wonder how it compares to TIG brazing. Can you please do a video comparing to TIG brazed joints, both silicon bronze and aluminum bronze?

[@henriquemata4198]

Great video! It taught me a lot.Thank you very much Jody!

[@momobadilak]

this is very cool - it would be cool to do another mini-version of this video with the target moved right up to the laser pointer - like 1/2" away. This would help get an idea for the actual amount/distance of distortion that occurs.

[@tonyzeh]

In the beginning, If the laser pointer is at the back of the stock, from where it's welded, Isn't it expanding tilting the laser up, therefore the back end of the stock is in fact going down (not up), tilting the laser upward? You videos are very informative, and your welding finger works out great! Thanks

[@mainemikeiii]

Jodi, I'm a know nothing untrained individual with regard to welding... I enjoy watching your videos and have learned a lot from your efforts... you have me scratching my head with your first laser test however... because it appaers as though the laser was afixed hard to the rear of the work piece it seems to me that if the laser showed an upward movement the cause would be a downward effect on the piece it was attached to. Sort of like an effect you'd expect if you placed a target in line with a seesaw and the laser on the far end of the seesaw. Please correct me if im wrong, as I said you're the pro, butmI'm just a little confused on this one... lastly please understand that I realize the intent of the video was to illustrate the movement in general so I may be taking this over the top... great video, you made me think with this one... thanks for sharing... Mike

[@weldingtipsandtricks]

I may have shown the piece backwards for a sec.

[@mainemikeiii]

Yep... watched the video a second time and I see how you have it set up... sorry for my confusion.....

[@pilotmountain1]

I want to make a competition between my students using a laser to see who can keep it on target when all welds are finished. Great video thanks for the idea!

[@vinodjagthkar2211]

Max Jordan can you please explain about tube Welding distortion

[@paulg444]

fantastic video, it seems counterintuitive that the side went toward the bead side. I would have thought that the weld side would have been hotter and so the expansion would be greater on the weld side and so the side bend should have been away from the weld side.

[@CGPaxa]

Great video! The laser idea helps to understand the concept. I wish you could have made a dot to mark the laser position before each run just for comparison sake...

[@scottcureton6055]

awesome video. Would preheating help or make worse the distortion?

[@sanjaysami4315]

Great video ! Fantastic demo.

[@SLINGSHOTandMOLOTOWS]

Great demostration Jody! thanks

[@eugenegonzales5146]

Awesome. I'm going to do the same test myself. Thanks Jody

[@Zoomsterful]

Great vid especially this time Jody! As a beginner welder this is an AWESOME tip thanks. Was wondering if you could do the same clip with the square tubing in the correct sequence, with the laser pointer on it. Just to see if you could hit a bullseye???

[@maxwellcoldpepper6550]

Ohh..now I get it. That was great. Thanks and looking forward to learning more on this (now less) mysterious topic.

[@whitecaps775]

Good topic, wonder what would change if welds were done from outside to center, requires more starts, but might be interesting to see results. Just a thought.

[@SteadArcFab_Ministries]

Jody, just awesome man!!! So informative! Thank you

[@libertyordeath1287]

Very informative as always

[@petermccuskey1832]

Excellent presentation

[@KarlAlfredRoemer]

Very nice idea with the laserpointer.

[@vwturbinado7349]

your videos are awesome Jody, could you make a video on welding vband to turbo housings? I have done a few, and the half welded to the turbo tends to want to ovalize, yet the clamp is tighten to avoid distortion with the other half. thanks in advance

[@kgroombr]

Awesome explanation and demonstration. Thanks!

[@aarondostou3888]

Very creative video! Excellent

[@JonnyBetz]

im excited. learned alot. If my project starts to warp in a certain direction i can purposefully place welds to bring it back to square. interesting