Silicon Bronze on Blackened Steel

[@davidlakatosh9456]

I just got a pair of those gloves, they're great. Give you protection but are soft enough to feel the tig wire in your hand

[@weldingtipsandtricks]

Thank you!

[@MichaelSmith-sj5uk]

David Lakatosh I’ve tried some miller harbor freight and can’t remember the name but Jody’s are definitely the best I’ve used

[@chucksgarage7165]

I like the fact that you're not willing to sell bad products and that you're willing to admit you "could have done a better job. . .". I think I'll buy a couple pairs of those gloves for my son and me to use in the shop.

[@shenyathewelder9695]

Hey Jody, your channel has been the biggest help and inspiration to me as a welder. My teacher treated me like garbage and wouldn’t help me, but your videos are always here when I need help. I can’t thank you enough. Keep the hood down, keep the wire clean, and don’t forget the ground clamp.

[@markashlock8058]

Jody, there are some REALLY good welders on KZbin , but you my friend are the Best of the Best. Thank you for all you do to promote, explain, and teach this fine occupation and hobby.

[@metzsmayhem6832]

Just went to the Weldmonger store and what a daisy it is! I will be procuring myself a fine pair of those TIG gloves as well as a new TIG finger. Now Mr. Collier, I implore you to continue to do the most honorable of all endeavors which is endowing the masses of the world the knowledge to change it one glorious weld at a time.

[@MichaelSmith-sj5uk]

Metz's Mayhem the tig gloves are the best ones I’ve used so far

[@phillhuddleston9445]

Hey Jody, I've used that Oxpho-blue on a few guns, it does not protect it from rust very well, it is more of a coloring process than a protectant, you do need to keep it oiled to prevent rust, a light oil such as a gun oil would be best. I've used it in a pinch for machine parts when we didn't have time for black oxide, not as good but better than nothing.

[@anthonyrector8183]

Thanks for the awesome videos! Got my first shop job starting tomorrow after graduating from college with a welding degree.

[@weldingtipsandtricks]

congrats

[@precisionarc]

Wish the best for you, which college?

[@anthonyrector8183]

@@precisionarc Snow College. It's a small town technical community college.

[@Dr_Xyzt]

Fun video. I tried Oxpho Blue and silicon bronze on my newly fabricated dashboard, 22 ga steel. In my case, I did quite a lot of cross-hatch sanding to a 320 grit finish. It came out okay. I used a loose arc to wet out the bronze, and had to deal with warpage, but nothing like a normal weld.

[@therealstubot]

I like Van's cold blue. I've tried Brownells, Birchwood-Casey, and a couple of others, but Vans seems to be the most consistent, and economical that I've found. I get best results when I clean with acetone, dip the parts in solution for minute or two, pull the part and scrub it with fine steel wool, then acetone wipe and dip again for a minute. Wipe dry and oil.

[@SteadArcFab_Ministries]

Jody, thanks for the great video. Interesting on the blackening, looks neat. Always appreciate your honesty and how you discuss when you feel you made a mistake or are new at something! Great Character my friend!!! Be Blessed!!!

[@davcot3675]

Another great vid. U R hands down the very best welding instructor on Utube I tell everyone I know that wants to learn welding to follow n watch WTnT Keep it up

[@bennyfactr6122]

Nice job, Jody. You can get a beautiful finish on polished brass with cold blue. If you like the oil-rubbed bronze/black chrome look.

[@jackkrinkov9273]

I use Birchwood super blue. I bead blast the part first than skip the oil than spray it with clear coat. Turns out real nice and it's real durable.

[@Kashed]

Tillman 25B split deerskin gloves are great when working on aluminum and you don’t want to scratch it. They are soft and won’t scratch the surface. But for any other work I like the gloves from lincoln elec.

[@Goodshaft]

GREAT Job Jody...................That Star is OFF the HOOK !!

[@drickard67]

I'm a big fan of Oxpho-blue... Out of all the cold bluing products I've tried it has been the most consistent.

[@jeffgrier8488]

I do like the look of the blackened steel, but I will agree with you, there needs to be more contrast.

[@cronkthecrunk]

I'm glade you did this because I have been wanting to try a bluing next to silicone bronze

[@weldHAGOJIBI]

There's a lot of good stuff in one video. Great.👍

[@BenDrinkin1]

Thanks for all you do Jodi! Really helped me set up my 350 mp!

[@fm1224]

My Dad was a welder... And I would love to learn too!

[@kevinmaxwell6610]

Great video! I very much appreciate the details 👍 This video will be a great tutorial for years and years to come. Some of our best work gets done by experimenting with new things. I think you did quite a good job on those angles and i have smeared steel to stainless with a non stainless wire wheel so bad everything rusted. Trial and error makes us better, I checked every wire wheel ever since (Details)

[@guazonkiler3640]

Muy buenos videos me gustaría saber si podría hacer una fución de matediales como titanium y acero al carbono para saber que tusteno y que material de aporte se utilizaría parámetros etc

[@danl.4743]

You can remove some of the burnishing layer with kitchen Scotch Brite. Use very lightly.

[@Sean-ib7pd]

If it's possible to do a video on silicon bronze mig welding Auto body panels that would be excellent. I'm limited to a Hobart 140, would be interesting to see if it's possible to set up my little welder with silicon bronze mig wire.

[@Aint1S]

If you polish your steel, clean it good to sterile, and control the temp of your steel... It'll come out nice and blued. I had bought an old pawn rifle 15 years ago for $60 because the bore was perfect, but the rifle looked like 💩. Dents, spray paint, the I took my secondhand Ruger 10/22 apart, stripped it down, and polished the barrel to a mirror finish with 3000 grit wet. From my experience, if you apply the first coat for a shorter period of 20-30 sec and then rinse/neutralize in cold water; you'll get better results from later coats. The hardest part is the foundation coat, but once you get an equal blue finish the later will begin to turn black. Then you can take a torch to it and heat it a little too advance it process into new gun barrel territory. Trial and error, you can always remove some layers by wetsanding.

[@weldingtipsandtricks]

thanks for the good info

[@mushroomhead3907]

Your welding techniques are awesome! It helps me out alot

[@timlong1462]

No pulse on my machine. Just picked up some sibr wire, I guess my footwork will just have to be fast lol. I'm gonna wear out my pedal tap dancing on it.

[@weldingvidio8894]

I'm from indonesia,.thanks for tips and tricks😄👍

[@JonDingle]

This may be a daft question but here goes, Are you able to post the products you sell to the UK? Thank you, in anticipation of great answer!

[@hollywoodhand9012]

Do you have a cut list or the angles used to fit up that star? Thanks

[@Parents_of_Twins]

I bought a welding table (3/4" steel plate on frame homemade) and unfortunately I can't get it into my garage so I was wondering what would be the best way to rust proof without affecting it's function. I was wondering if using the blackening process would work and how much it would cost to do a 4'x6' table? Thanks to anyone who can give me some advice on this issue.

[@HOTRODSANDGUITARS]

Do you have a video of tig welding German silver ? I have a German silver radiator tank I need to patch. ? Thanks

[@GraduatedIn]

I know this is an old video and I’m not expecting any replies, but when brazing I see the puddle looks watery. I still see some sort of film or oxide though, is that always there like aluminum filler rod?

[@E9859-v7d]

Hey Jody , is that a cooks shirt , because if it is and it works great I would like to get some , I’ll pick up a pair of those gloves .

[@Individuality1990]

Love the video, trying to do a large gantry shelf using steel tubes and silicon-bronze fillets. Did you end up experimenting with the bluing process anymore? very keen to know if it was just iron contamination in the braze that discolored it.

[@outdoorzone]

Would the silicon bronze work ok with exhaust parts?

[@rickpalechuk4411]

The key word being "control" Thanks for sharing Cheers

[@gusbisbal9803]

Jody, I am going to be welding together an inch thick cast iron plates with Silicon aluminium rod to create a fabricated mill saddle which will be milled for precision surfaces later. What kind of preheat temperatures do you recommend when doing that sort of work. The saddle is 900mm long 250mm wide so there is quite a bit of metal there. Any words of advice you can provide would be great. Love your channel. I started my welding career because of your work.

[@abwoturab29]

Mr Jodie i have two questions. what is the types of gas to using in the TIG welding. And why we are using gas and TIG welding thank you sir

[@justinhall8318]

Theres usually 2 types of gas for TIG. Pure Argon, or an Argon/helium mix for thicker materials. And for the project hes working on, for a better looking weld on thinner material, TIG Welding/brazing is the way to go cause it handles thinner materials better. And sometimes the WPS, or Welding Procedure Specification calls for TIG welding of a project.

[@ozzmann3217]

Jody brother I took you idea for TIG rod holders with PVC so simple so genius I’m sure you saw that from someone in your years of experience, and I made 8 for the cost of two propose made tig weld holders which is awesome. I do have a question though what do you use for holding the on your wall did you make that bracket or buy it?

[@willlothridge3197]

Do you have a stainless to copper tig brazing video

[@BrassAxe]

Scrub the part with fine steel wool while the cold blue is wet on the steel. The finish comes out much much more even, its night and day.

[@ultragamingag]

I use gloves from Weldas and Tegera they are realy good quality.

[@samyfajard2906]

excelente video gracias jody

[@Just1GuyMetalworks]

Thanks for the tips! 😊

[@rajpolekar4789]

Wich gas using sir ??

[@jamessonger3]

I guess i might be the only one but everytime i go to use silicon bronze i have the worst luck ever... Im not sure if its the wrong amperage or the metals not clean enough or what but for some reason i can't get it to "flow like honey" haha like Jody does, it just wanted to stick and ball up like and then a big blob falls off. I will try to go just below the melting temp of the base metal and it doesn't flow. OR if i go to welding temps its to hot..... Drives me nuts.... Im gonna try again though in a day or two and im gonna make sure EVERYTHING is perfect. Keep up the great work tho!!! Just purchased a pair of your gloves! Even though i literally have like 7-8 pairs of other gloves, I like to support you because of what you have done for me. Cheers! Also, Im waiting for you to add the Jazzy 10 cup to your store so i can purchase it through you. Will that happen at all? if not, no big deal. Thanks bro!!!!

[@AtomicFire19]

Are you using the right silicon bronze wire? They've got a version for Tig welding and more commonly available oxy brazing.

[@penrodgarage5699]

Start your arc, heat the base metal until it starts to sweat. Try tacking. Arc, dab, cool down. Repeat. I run 95 Amps on mild steel with D/C. Ensure the metal is thoroughly cleaned, your ground clamp is close, and your polarity is correct. I run 100% Argon shielding. Jody mentions that steel melts at roughly 2700 degrees, brazing wire melts at roughly 800 degrees. Grey, red, orange tungsten works well. Most other tungsten should work though. Silicon bronze easily fills large gaps, gets a bead on thin sheet metal, doesn’t destroy molecular structure of tool steel, etc. just did a bunch of brazing on a drift trike, I brazed a chromoly head tube to mild steel tubing. Weird angles, lots of prep work- its time consuming but unique. Pretty amazing and versatile process. Good luck to you. Just thought I’d share some tips that made all the difference for me- I’m still learning this process too.

[@jamessonger3]

@@AtomicFire19 lol yea im def running the correct wire. I have some from my local welding supply and then some from blue demon...

[@jamessonger3]

@@penrodgarage5699 hell yeah thanks for the tips... I just gotta keep practicing.

[@Gottenhimfella]

As Penrod mentions, cleanliness of the work and the filler wire (and the argon, even) can be major factors. To give a softer arc (which helps prevent parent metal from melting), avoid an acute angle on the electrode point, and ball the point a little with a brief burst of higher current over a piece of scrap.

[@ronaldgenendlis6423]

Do you have a link in which to purchase a aluminum fixture plate like the one you welded this star on? Thanks. Been watching you for a while. I’m an old aircraft welder as you were back in the day.

[@АлексейПлотников-ъ5й]

Спасибо вам огромное за информацию! 🛠🛠🛠

[@classicrestoration]

If you're going for looks, AL/ bronze gets the trophy 🏆

[@kevinhornbuckle]

Does anyone know if there is an aftermarket pulsing device available that works with a transformer Miller 330A/BP machine?

[@CGT80]

That would be really cool, but I doubt there is any demand for it. Also, I don't know if the amperage control system is adequate or quick enough for pulse. Does the machine need the wave form capabilities of the new machines to do that or will the simple system on the old machines work? It is just a rheostat or potentiometer that controls the 330abp, so maybe electronics could adjust that quickly enough, or have a servo/stepper control an input device just as a person's foot would. Sometimes mine will pulse, if I move my foot fast enough :)

[@paulmorrey733]

Thanks

[@israelnieves2817]

Thanks for tips Jody👍

[@sylvestresanchez4848]

Thank you .

[@cuauthemocramirezangel5031]

Muy hermoso espero algun dia poder soldar asi

[@fmjan]

Just ask abom79 about the oxpho blue he has done a lot with it. He also did some parts of your purge fixture.

[@weldingtipsandtricks]

exactly, I even went back and watch his video before I tried this...Abom rules

[@nighttracker1472]

Hey, I got a newbie question about tig welding, more specifically torches. Is it ok to run a 150A air cooled torch @~140A for a longer time say 10-15 min off and off? Little break changes part position and situating your self. Do I need to go up to a 200A or higher torch for longer welding session? Also, would water cooled setup be better and if so is there a cooler you can recommend? Thanks

[@CGT80]

Torches are usually rated better for DC than AC, as normally the heat flows into the work on DC and AC is more balanced, depending on machine settings. It depends on how hot your torch gets. While I have not used an air cooled torch, water cooled is great if you have flexible lines and a #20 torch, which is more compact than air cooled torches with higher amperage ratings. Even at 300 amps, my #20 torch never feels hot. It is a heavy duty flex head, so more bulky than most #20 torches but it handles anything I do. I would never use a fixed head torch. I built my own tig cooler with a 120v sureflow pump, which is the same kind of pump used in an RV (12v version). These pumps are very quiet. I bypassed the pressure switch and used a t fitting and valve to bleed water back to the tank to get 60 psi on the line to the torch. I read that the flow needed to be something like 45-65 psi and 1-2 quarts per minute. Water coolers aren't anything special or complex, so they just need to be reliable and hold up. You can run a torch off a water faucet and drain the water where you want, in a pinch.

[@nighttracker1472]

@@CGT80 ok thank you

[@sethstrohm7877]

Can you use the silicon bronze filler on most material or does it have to be steel

[@penrodgarage5699]

Seth Strohm aluminum, stainless, chromoly, tool steel, cast iron. You’ll have to change up wire thickness, tungsten, and polarity sometimes. Do the research before hand. It’s a pretty cool process. Silicon bronze uses the amperage to melt the (copper+tin=bronze) wire onto the base metal. Oxy/Fuel brazing uses flame heat to melt the wire onto the base metal. Tig brazing is faster and cleaner.

[@Gottenhimfella]

@@penrodgarage5699 Joining aluminium with bronze using TIG - I didn't realise it was even possible, until I came across this page - very interesting option! Although it would definitely be something to avoid in any situation where a conductive fluid (like seawater, as one instance) might ever be present, as galvanic corrosion would have a high old time. In bygone years, at least in the Brit Commonweath, joining steel using bronze filler was generally called "Bronze welding" to distinguish it from the more commonly used brass, which was called "Brazing". The former gives a particularly good result compared with fusion welding where toughness is a consideration, as in situations involving repeated impacts.

[@ozyrob1]

Cheers Jodi

[@LittleAussieRockets]

Good stuff mate!

[@MegaherzZwei]

tried asking this on a different video....Is it possible to break silicon bronze brazing by reheating with the Tig welder rather than having to cut tubes/joints apart?

[@rtwolfrt]

Not really, but you could use an oxy...

[@CGT80]

Sure, if you can pull on the part while you have heat on the tack weld, it can be done. I have done the same on steel parts with steel filler. Other times, heating the tack welds will allow the part to be adjusted, for instance if there was a gap when it was tack welded. In that case, just pushing the parts together or using a clamp while heating can close the gap. If there is more than a single tack where you wanted to break it, I would not expect it come apart.

[@coors1800]

What's your opinion on the quality between your gloves and Tillman gloves?

[@ardiansyah92ardi13]

Thanks...I ma from indonesia

[@SuperTabney]

what were your current settings for that particular set up?

[@kiffaj9982]

G'day Jody,great video mate.Gonna be getting some cool gear from your store. I've been experimenting with copper sulphate on steel, very nice looking result.Could you show everyone the effects on one of your vids.

[@simon9447]

Keith Jessop Hi Keith, I am curious as to what effect copper sulphate has on steel? Would you mind giving me some info? I do steel sculpture and I am always looking for different finishes. Thanks Mate.

[@kiffaj9982]

@@simon9447 Search for Artfully Rogue/ copper sulphate on youtube..hopefully it will pop up. Queenslander.

[@estevanazua4710]

Where did you get the fixture plate looks pretty helpful.

[@brianb6603]

Excellent as usual!!!

[@alanmony1582]

Hey Jody, in a former life I gas brazed bicycle frames. I think that experience has made my transition to tig a little easier than for some. Do you think you could sell those acetone bottles on your channel? I sure would like to have one!

[@MartyAlot]

I second the bottle request. At least I’d love to know where to get one.

[@drickard67]

I've bought several bottles like that off Amazon... I've also bought one from a beauty shop\hair salon supply store.

[@wickedcityracer]

was that a black and decker drill

[@drdremd]

cody price I think your correct.

[@ChemistyStudent]

I don't know how to weld, but I really enjoy watching your videos! It's just fascinating to watch!! If you don't mind my ignorance, how do you know what settings to use? Is it purely skill and experience or is there a reference manual somewhere? Also, how does the braze joint actually fail? Does it delaminate from the sides? I'm thinking of it like metal hot glue.

[@CGT80]

There are books and manuals out there. For mig welding, the machines will have charts or programs in them to get you started and from there people will adjust by experience. A common "rule" is to use 1 amp of heat for each thousandth of steel thickness, so 1/8" or 0.125" steel would use about 125 amps. With tig, it is most common to set the machine hotter than you need and just use the foot pedal or finger control to adjust heat, just as you use an accelerator pedal in a vehicle. When you figure out how much heat you need, you can adjust the machine so it gives you only slightly more than you need, giving you finer control at the pedal. If you are welding with lower heat but have the machine set at full power it can make the pedal real touchy. For example, the top notch on my tig is 230-460 amps and the middle notch is up to 230 or 250. For some material, the middle notch doesn't give enough power, so I use the top notch and then set the dial on the machine to maybe 40%. That limits the power to 322 amps and the pedal now starts at 230 amps and all the way down is 322, instead of the full 460 amps. Normally I use the middle notch that is 60-230 amps and leave the dial at 100% so the pedal is 60-230. The weld puddle tells me if I have enough heat, based on learning what to watch for. I'm not an expert on how the metal fails, but I would agree that brazing is like hot glue. I suppose it is possible for the brazing filler to tear if it has a strong bond to the base metal. Welding can be very enjoyable. If you haven't tried welding, definitely do it. If you can get an experienced welder to get you going, it will give you a quick taste of what it is like. It can take a lot of time to get decent, especially with tig. A class is a great way to start as I did in high school and college, but I spent a few months or so learning tig on my own before the class started since I bought a used tig machine.

[@ВячеславХарченко-й8ы]

очень интересное видио смотрю с удовольствием жаль что нет перевода на русский спасибо

[@Lasonp]

Great video Jodi, what pulse settings were you using? I would like to put one of these together for my sisters new ranch house when they finish it but I have never use silicone bronze and I cant seem to have much luck with pulse. What amps were you hitting while welding?

[@weldingtipsandtricks]

I think I had amperage set to around 145 but with pulse settings of 2 pps 40% pulse time and 25% background so actual amperage was probably around 75-100 amps depending on gap or were I was on the tube.

[@lsa55]

thanks for greatest tips!

[@robpridgen3791]

I recently tried TIG brazing thin stainless to copper with silicon bronze. It did not go well. Should any sort of flux be used on the copper? The SB just didn't want to stick to it. Also, what amperage are you set at here? Thanks for the videos. I have learned a lot from them.

[@weldingtipsandtricks]

I think I had amperage set to around 145 but with pulse settings of 2 pps 40% pulse time and 25% background so actual amperage was probably around 75-100 amps depending on gap or were I was on the tube.

[@RickBaconsAdventures]

Silver solder with flux is what I have used to successfully braze stainless to copper, I have a video of it. Get the stuff for brazing A/C lines

[@precisionarc]

If the copper was thick then it was sucking the heat away too quick, I've TIG welded copper to sst using 312, 309 will work also

[@robpridgen3791]

@@precisionarc It was tin stainless and 3/4" copper elbow. I cleaned it well and thought I had it right. I will keep trying. Thanks for the advice.

[@precisionarc]

@@robpridgen3791 If this is for a customer, I'd recommend letting them tell you what filler and process to use

[@calebsiegler5471]

Try diluting it and spraying it on. Or buy black magic from sculpt nouveau. All about the spray bottle for blackening patina. Wipe on never gives a great look for me. I do large art pieces. Like I used 64 ounces of patina on one piece last year.

[@JesseWright68]

How much argon were you using with that big cup?

[@avocares]

+1

[@weldingtipsandtricks]

20-25cfh

[@krazziee2000]

nice

[@GibClark]

Good info👍👍👍👍

[@weldingtipsandtricks]

thanks Gib

[@pblevy1]

A quick question: would this technique work for thin walled tubing like in bicycle building. It looks similar to oxy/ acetylene but cleaner.

[@pblevy1]

@TowME trailers Thank you!

[@usmankhan-rk7ri]

His uncle i want your all vedio in hindi

[@mowafab]

best gloves are soft touch

[@calebsiegler5471]

Try wiping it on. Or use black magic from sculpt nouveau. I think KZbin deleted my last comment. No idea why. But I do art. Large pieces where I can use up to 64 ounces of patina on one piece.

[@kazimohammadkayef4188]

Good 1🙂

[@TheOneAndOnlySame]

Lol with the colours of the font , the star the word oxpho i thought it was a russian video

[@Mike-ss1ju]

Thanks for teaching us how to weld and not being a literal Nazi.

[@mdjubayer1467]

Your email address can be given

[@paulwyleciol3459]

thanks! --- illuminati confirmed! ;-)

[@dannyl2598]

Thank you.