Welp... J. Cole Apologizes for Kendrick Lamar Diss #jcole #kendricklamar #apology #mightdeletelater sunnmcheaux.com weoutcheamerch.com
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@smol-one4 ай бұрын
... why are people so allergic to the phrases 'I'm sorry' and 'I was wrong'?
@celondelon3514 ай бұрын
Ego
@Volundur95674 ай бұрын
Because they ain't sorry
@IndomitableAde4 ай бұрын
They think it's weak to admit wrongdoing/thinking and actually apologize.
@FujishimaAkiko4 ай бұрын
Weakness and cowardice.
@FerociousPaul4 ай бұрын
Context is everything. It's hip hop, it's sport, it's competition. He didn't need to apologize for sparring with Kendrick. But I understand that's not what he was apologizing for, he was apologizing for what he said. His heart wasn't in the track and you could tell.
@FujishimaAkiko4 ай бұрын
Some people in the comments missing that "Welp" Y'all Sunn is not impressed because J. Cole needs to apologize to a whole other community of people who did NOTHING to him. Come on now, how long has this man's free class been in session, and some still failing? *smh* Much love and respect Sunn, as always! Love you fam! 💖
@saoirsevicteoiria27594 ай бұрын
I had no context for this -- it sounded sincere and reflective, and it may well be, but as so often, it's too easy miss all that's unsaid. My thanks to the professor and his community for this timely reminder, and to you for the quick explainer.
@eleanorcatherino38394 ай бұрын
@@saoirsevicteoiria2759 idk what was up between them but he didn’t need to insult him and through that he could have chooses any damn insult and he chose to be transphobic
@onehundredpercent_ke4 ай бұрын
Ya'll swear straight people be minding Ya'll business so bad!!!! But you can't stand not to be validated by them!! Make and create your own spaces instead of forcing your way into the ones you are not accepted in..... But noooooo you can't do that because ad is shows through your cos play of other genders, you actually want to BE THAT, and you expect I blind eye to be casted and people just want notice so that you can continue to slither inside. You can't force people to bow to you. Get your community together and cry together, because most people don't give AF😢
@DOTTAisKING4 ай бұрын
He Dnt need to apologize for anything....this is hip hop
@FujishimaAkiko4 ай бұрын
@@DOTTAisKING It's not all of hip hop, kick rocks.
@wastedinspiration4 ай бұрын
Okay, I'm glad he's willing to apologize to *someone*, but I do wonder if he has an apology for the trans community directly? Also, I'm seeing a lot of people saying "it's a diss track, it's supposed to be mean" you know you can insult someone without dragging in marginalized communities, right? Not to mention that we need to get past the idea that simply "being trans" is some kind of insult.
@JCM2234 ай бұрын
I feel like this gon be kendricks intro on his next diss.
@parasitesundinism4 ай бұрын
Nah
@nailzius4 ай бұрын
He shot strays out to the trans community. THAT was lame and unnecessarily cruel If he felt the need to apologize to Lamar for dissing his catalog, that’s fine for him … I guess
@shorty631364 ай бұрын
I thought this apology was gonna be about that. 😑 IDGAF about a diss record. The toothpaste is out of the tube & it pulled the attention they wanted. Good for him tho, I guess.
@atyourbest53854 ай бұрын
Cruel? It's a diss record. Disses aren't meant to feel fuzzy and uplifting. Do you know Hip Hop?
@quirkyviper4 ай бұрын
I'll never understand how one oppressed group/race/community can be so casual about (even passively) contributing to the harm of another oppressed group. HELLO?!
@Volundur95674 ай бұрын
@@atyourbest5385but you don't have to be transphobic.
@ToddRodSkimmins4 ай бұрын
I'm glad I'm no the only one who thoguht the apology was going to be/should have been about that because the other 'shots' that he took at Kendrick were soft.
@pinkmoonrabbit20724 ай бұрын
idk. as a trans person- not accepted. He addressed disrespecting kendrick but didnt retract disrespecting trans people.and sure hes just one guy, but he has influence due to being a well known artist. Trans people anywhere let alone america certainly dont need a well-liked artist making room for transphobia and modeling that our existence is a reference point for disrespecting and degrading someone.
@Bluespicygreen4 ай бұрын
He just said a lot of nothing, like he’s bullshiting a late homework assignment
@semplybalanced32104 ай бұрын
There’s nothing to accept or not accept, bc he didn’t apologize.
@deniciadarling56114 ай бұрын
Not just well liked, but often considered thoughtful and socially conscious. It's especially dangerous coming from someone like him.
@autonope234 ай бұрын
F*CK that, who cares cuz he didn't apologize to Trans ppl and doesn't owe y'all an apology. Trans women call me, a gay woman, transphobic because I don't want to lay with someone who has a d*CK. Y'all are crazy disrespectful so idgaf about what happens to y'all until you start treating others with respect. No other group demands anything like y'all. Literally demanding ppl pretend you're something you're not, never were, and never will be.
@TheRealMoanmyname4 ай бұрын
You can simple don't listen to him or scroll right on by. If he doesn't want to apologized are you going to force him to?? 🙄🙄
@SRN_RL4 ай бұрын
Can't wait for the follow up video for the commenters missing the point. It's good to apologize to the person being attacked (even though he didn't say "sorry" once, but I digress) but the transphobia behind the insult wasn't addressed at all.
@FujishimaAkiko4 ай бұрын
Yeah, we have many people in here that walked into the wrong classroom, they need to check their schedule, or have someone read it to them if they need help.
@sasentaiko4 ай бұрын
The list of folks owed an apology just keeps growing. Not only was there no understanding of how those lines were hurtful to trans & intersex folks, women in his industry, *anyone who has ever menstruated*, black cis women in particular, etc etc… now he’s adding disabled and mobility impaired people to the list by calling his behavior “lame”. I’ve had former friends give me the same excuse: I was under social pressure, I didn’t really want to do it, but I freaked out and did the bad thing anyway. I threw you under the bus for my own glory… you get it, you can forgive me, right? And then it just kept happening and happening and happening.
@FujishimaAkiko4 ай бұрын
Same thing for me, then I cleaned house, if you haven't already, know it's OK to clean your house. 💖🖤🤎
@kristinn51294 ай бұрын
Seriously he didn't intend to say anything to offend people with the use of the word Lame. If you hadn't said it I wouldn't have looked at the word as derogatory. It had more than 1 meaning.
@BruinPhD20094 ай бұрын
@FujishimaAkiko The beauty of cleaning house is that the clutter doesn't even have to know about it. They just find themselves outside wondering how they got there. 😅
@FujishimaAkiko4 ай бұрын
@@BruinPhD2009 Word! 😆
@yugoxgc4 ай бұрын
... I have no idea what he's talking about. Not sure what that says about his apology
@mommyofkittens48094 ай бұрын
This is filed under “words are wind.” Yet another apology with no apology.
@rainbeauxunicorn52374 ай бұрын
He apologized to Kendrick Lamar because he actually respects him, but he did not apologize to the trans community because he does not respect the trans community. He did not overlook what he inferred about his feelings towards the trans community. That was accurate because otherwise there was no reason for him to “feel bad in his spirit.”
@obatalaosun22224 ай бұрын
THIS
@hive_indicator3184 ай бұрын
Holy hell, the people in this comment section who don't realize what you're about are killing me.
@IndomitableAde4 ай бұрын
I guess apologies sound different nowadays. 🤷🏾♀️
@dallasflynn52004 ай бұрын
I noticed that, too. 👍🏾
@IndomitableAde4 ай бұрын
@@dallasflynn5200 okay? Because I didn't actually hear an apology amidst all those words.
@dallasflynn52004 ай бұрын
@@IndomitableAde Neither did I.
@imeaniguess.69634 ай бұрын
“I just want to be up here and publicly be like,’Bro, that was the lamest like goofiest 💩 and I pray my 🥷🏾 didn’t feel no way and if he did I got my chin out”. ‘It’s all good, it’s love’, an apology doesn’t have to specifically be,”I’m sorry”.
@IndomitableAde4 ай бұрын
@@imeaniguess.6963 and a real apology doesn't include "if".
@carolynjordan20984 ай бұрын
What I will say is that regardless of what people may feel about the levels of his apology, it takes a grown man to apologize for any misstep in today's society. IJS
@obatalaosun22224 ай бұрын
He apologized to Kendrick, one person. Not the hundreds of thousands of trans men that ain't do or say shit to him that he decided to use as a punchline. When men punch down on women, Queer people, or anyone else, they have to be called out, or they will just keep punching.
@RabbitsRi4 ай бұрын
I gotta agree with many of the people here in the comments. We heard half of the apology, the part more people wanted to hear. That lame shit, that pulled him off the path of God shit, was an attack not just on Kendrick Lamar... In fact I don't know if it was strong enough to punch up at Lamar. I wanna say that it was just a punch down at the trans community. I hope to hear about the other half of the apology.
@redcapphony4 ай бұрын
Now where's the apology for the trans community?
@babarocus14 ай бұрын
He apologized you don't like it that's on you stop trying to cancel him cuz your hurt and want him hurt!
@PKSunset3 ай бұрын
@@babarocus1He really didn't
@Captain_Bob4 ай бұрын
"People got mad at me for what I said, so I just wanna say that I felt like shit and that Kendrick is great." Did I get it right?
@FujishimaAkiko4 ай бұрын
You got what he said right, but he got his apology all wrong by leaving out an entire community that he inserted into his mess with Kendrick.
@DeadBore4 ай бұрын
Basically it. A 3:21 minute non-apology summed up in a sentence.
@sidepriest4 ай бұрын
J.FOLD bout to drop another album: “The Apology” •The Better Man ft. Drake •Diss & Miss •Self Infliction Conviction •The Glaze Phase (fan requested) •I Stand by my Stans •Not enough lungs for the Smoke 💨 •Bars before cars 🚗 Can’t wait
@PumpkinJack314 ай бұрын
Ahhh, yes… “Blackface-Drake”… keep enriching him. You do that.
@KattReen4 ай бұрын
Men in this industry aren't going to apologize for their misogyny, regardless of if it is trans flavored or not. Arguably it's even more misogynistic that he apologizes to the guy, because he's like wow, it was so unnecessarily hurtful for me to compare this upstanding MAN with the much inferior view I have on any femininity. That grace and empathy certainly exists in him, but it is very selective.
@celondelon3514 ай бұрын
He didn’t apologise to the Trans community, also I feel like Drake is behind this, it was Drake who wanted this to go away when he decided not to respond, which I understand given Pusha T most likely still haunts him.
@WhatIsSanity4 ай бұрын
Did he now? I don't recall him saying sorry to anyone. I'm also guessing the track is still on release so...... Doesn't seem sorry he said awful bigoted things, he's sorry people didn't like it.
@Volundur95674 ай бұрын
No accepting of apologies. If you were sorry, you'd not do it begin with. You're only sorry for backlash.
@ohbooyourselves4 ай бұрын
Where's the apology at 😂
@SheisB5154 ай бұрын
I think he felt the peer pressure of needing to respond and the apology is him staying true to himself. He didn't want to respond, everyone else wanted him to. I love that he kept it real with himself and apologized.
@FujishimaAkiko4 ай бұрын
He left a whole community of people right out of his apology, zero props.
@k.m5124 ай бұрын
@FujishimaAkiko what did he say about trans people?
@bryn10634 ай бұрын
@@k.m512he said he saw hints of a trans man in kendrick and that to "trust me, beneath his chosen identity there's still a 😾"
@boondocksdragon89594 ай бұрын
Glad he said what he said, but he still owes a direct apology to our siblings in the trans community. As always, sending Love and Light from Mississippi. Y'all stay safe and keep taking care of each other. ✌🏼🖤
@stlsxyat5d8893 ай бұрын
This is my first time hearing his apology, and I give him the upmost respect. We as people need to be the bigger person and not let things get out of hand.
@deniciadarling56114 ай бұрын
Riiiight...so apologies for dissing K Dot, but no feelings of "misalignment" for promoting transphobia and misogyny in anno domini 2024. So I guess another 10 yrs for him to get that lesson? 😒
@maggiesmith28434 ай бұрын
This shit feels super empty. Idk man tbh fuck J cole for this. I liked his music a bunch but now it feels like im not welcome and tbh what ever im used to that even if I shouldnt have to be.
@aliceangl35634 ай бұрын
Apology not accepted. No accountability for the cruelty he inflicted on the Trans Community.
@mudbuds11614 ай бұрын
He did what was right for him...immense respect
@obatalaosun22224 ай бұрын
When you apologize for saying some greazy shit, you don't get to pick and choose which one of the people that you shitted on that you want to apologize to. That's not an apology.
@Timquan.4 ай бұрын
I'm pissed because the walking insult to hip hop that is Drake was primed for downfall but will possibly skate by thanks to J.Cole's blunder
@AlliSinned4 ай бұрын
In the diss, J. Cole also called Kendrick's album that has a song about him learning to accept trans people "tragic" lol
@beezar1134 ай бұрын
Unfortunately for all the people who are asking for his apology to trans people, I doubt it’s coming anytime soon, his focus was on Kendrick, and everyone in his circle and his fan-base and the general hip hop community was talking about how he would address Kendrick. A lot of the queerphobia in hip hop just isn’t gunna be identified or regulated, and that is unfortunate. Perhaps one day that will change and this video maybe helps (gleaming the thumbnail Sunn used uploading it)
@shaddozer0ne1154 ай бұрын
Real MCs know real battle rap is a challenge of lyrics and wordplay between artists. The streets be immature at times.
@Harlinization4 ай бұрын
True -
@jackabug24754 ай бұрын
Why attack bystanders though? That's like paralyzing a nine-year-old trying to drive-by her neighbor. Nobody in the trans community was saying shit about J. Cole before his unforced error.
@atyourbest53854 ай бұрын
It's also disses and insults along with wordplay. People getting upset about him not apologising to the Trans community is just showing they don't understand that part of Hip Hop. The only things that were off limits in a rap battle were racism and maybe a loved one's death. Everything else was a weapon in a diss record. Why is it a diss? Because It's not celebrated in African or Caribbean culture historically.
@yehooyahoo68614 ай бұрын
@@atyourbest5385 Lmao so racism is off limits but not transphobia. Weird.
@obatalaosun22224 ай бұрын
@atyourbest5385 So things that don't affect cishet Black men are fair game. Things that directly impact them, like racism, are off limits. And we should be okay with it on an international stage because that's Hip Hop. Right.
@seang13734 ай бұрын
Where was the apology to the trans community? Did I miss it? I didn't see it.
@lazypanda60234 ай бұрын
I didn’t even know what he was trying to apologize for so I really don’t think he did a good job
@mm-rj3vo4 ай бұрын
"Ew, trans people, lol, gross" "Hey, uh, that was mean to trans people." "Lol, woops." 🤔
@Cedsbestwife3 ай бұрын
Cole realized he was stepping into a rap battle with two dudes who sincerely hate one another and saw no reason to engage ❤
@kimhart50374 ай бұрын
I love you J Cole ❤️ what a man ....❤❤❤
@dizzylilthing4 ай бұрын
I had zero idea what he was referring to and I thought he had just needlessly insulted someone on one of his tracks and that this was a pretty good way to acknowledge a hurtful line that was needlessly dropped. And then I found out what he was apologizing for and... yeah... I'm livid
@thevnsdrkangl4 ай бұрын
I respect Cole for this speech. I heard his reply late and never posted my thoughts because like him i was conflicted in my soul because i knew he could've done better. That might be what made Cole THAT DUDE but I'd much rather here Cole The Man.
@deldarel4 ай бұрын
So he's doubling down hard on his transphobia. That bait and switch is 100% intended or else he wouldn't have harped on how it's the only thing he regrets from that.
@redbrown4774 ай бұрын
When you know better...you do better. Growth in knowledge is a beautiful thing. ✌🏽
@four16294 ай бұрын
so basically he's saying he got peer pressured into being rude and preferred staying in the positive opinions of his fans and friends instead of being an adult, and didn't consider kendrick's feelings or how his fans would obviously dogpile. he's right, that's lame. next caller lmao
@AlakaxamM4 ай бұрын
Wow. Apologizing live, at a concert. It can be so hard to say, "sorry, I was wrong," or "sorry, I shouldn't have...." But those few words could save so many arguments and end conflicts almost immediately. Good on him for apologizing as publicly as he messed up. I didnt hear the original source of beef, but i hope he didn't say anything else crazy
@AlakaxamM4 ай бұрын
The way the crowd reacted makes me wonder if it was a publicity stunt all along
@KessO24244 ай бұрын
J Cole diss was hard. But I also love that he apologized. ❤@jcole
@beckiejani77824 ай бұрын
My mother would say, "Head for the hills, the shovels ate useless." Or "Don't bs a bs er."
@treinapj4 ай бұрын
Got to respect him for this
@gingersnapsback83534 ай бұрын
I really feel like that is back pedaling, but apology aint to me, so I got no cents in it. Also, nothing for the transphobic stuff. Still, I'm not gonna speculate whether or not he means it or not, he prolly does. Either way, got bills to pay and in the end, I'm still gonna listen to the songs I like by him and Kendrick.
@heademptynothots4 ай бұрын
He's apologizing for disturbing his own peace. He doesn't seem to care about or even aknowledge the true issue
@obatalaosun22224 ай бұрын
THIS. And as a fan since his first mixtape and someone who holds him in high esteem, I'm disappointed.
@goby17644 ай бұрын
What true issue? The trans line? Nobody gives a fuck
@VeganWellnessTribe4 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this. This is like the happy ending of a movie, but it’s real life. Soo much respect. Wow. Absolutely a blessing
@jackabug24754 ай бұрын
He apologized to the person on equal footing with him. He failed to even address the transphobia in the same song, which was aimed at people without the same kind of public platform or presence. Not cool.
@beezar1134 ай бұрын
@@jackabug2475The was his song Pi, not the song 7 Minute Drill, which was his diss track dedicated to Kendrick Not excusing the transphobia just letting you know
@ArcadeJackson-us7mq4 ай бұрын
He still didn’t apologize directly for the transphobic lyrics. Or did I miss something?
@manniebradley37684 ай бұрын
He didn't have to if you were listening to him
@ArcadeJackson-us7mq4 ай бұрын
@@manniebradley3768 please explain? I literally asked if I was missing something and you over here doing the equivalent of “aren’t you forgetting something?” When u could have spared us both and told me my shoes are untied by now. 🤦🏾♂️
@DianaTheLance4 ай бұрын
Felt a lot more like an apology to Kendrick than an apology to the trans community. Maybe an apology about the transphobia to Kendrick, but didn’t feel like he was apologizing to trans people at all.
@MishasMama4 ай бұрын
No, you didn't miss anything
@XShadowWolf19264 ай бұрын
Lol, the diss was towards Kendrick. Why would he apologize to a whole community over 1 line in a whole song. He said Bitch many times, should he also apologize to all women & female dogs around the world for using a derogatory term.... maybe but the sounds ridiculous right? Let me put it like this. I called John a "fat ass"and decided to apologize why would I apologize to all the Obese people around the world.... I apologize to the people I was talking to. You focus on one single line. J Cole is apologizing for the entire song and saying that the whole thing was wrong. Straight up said the response didnt sit write in his heart & spirit. That his actions weighing on him. You can't get much more of a sincere in authentic apology. "Then here you come along like, but what about?" Just say you don't care about apologizes from public figures because you'll never hear one better than the one J Cole just gave.
@paulreynolds71034 ай бұрын
I always liked j cole...seems like a good and chill guy ✌️
@Volundur95674 ай бұрын
So, you like transphobes?
@heffawtf1504 ай бұрын
Everybody should listen to Love Yours at least once, it’s a great uplifting song.
@obatalaosun22224 ай бұрын
That one, Crooked Smile and others. But we're not deflecting to that right now.
@WillinggToFail4 ай бұрын
This was like a roundabout apology. I don't know. I still like him, though. That just wasn't a good move.
@AutisticAthena4 ай бұрын
He's not sorry, he's sorry there was backlash. That's why he equivocates so much... And he didn't really apologize FOR anything... Or make any vow to do better... He virtue signaled his Christianity and showed his ass all over... Most non apology apology I've seen since I left my ex.
@january72134 ай бұрын
Nah, he heard folks wasn't feelin his response to Kung Fu Kenny! He kept saying lame cuz that's what folks was calling it, and it was. I like Cole, he just needs to do better.
@Ttyumbra4 ай бұрын
@@lysanamcmillan7972well there’s that and the regular shit black people say to say that shit was corny or lame o wasn’t good it wasn’t a diss towards a certain community rather than a persons work
@january72134 ай бұрын
@@lysanamcmillan7972 How is it a slur? Pls explain cuz your outrage seems misplaced.
@darklightmotion55344 ай бұрын
@@january7213 the words "lame", "dumb", "stupid", etc. are insults associate limitations which may be caused by disabilities with negative things, making them ableist. Same way its bigotted to say youre not against x group but to insukt their culture and way of being.
@january72134 ай бұрын
@@darklightmotion5534 So, how is it an insult if I'm not referring to that community? Cuz "lame" also means uninspiring.
@darklightmotion55344 ай бұрын
@@january7213 well it's a slur regardless. Same with how the f slur will always be a slur, whether you want to call someone gay or just insult them. Likening people like me with uninspiredness is inherently ableist.
@olivenboo4 ай бұрын
“apologizes”
@Ultraa_ray4 ай бұрын
I appreciated Cole being true to himself however THIS IS HIP HOP!!! I’m sure Kendrick didn’t feel a way, in fact he often invites competition from his peers… if he didn’t take lil jabs and dropped BARS/BOMBS then the reactions would likely have been a lot different. Since there is no real “beef” cole felt like he moved insincere and I respect his awareness… Cole just isn’t cut that way, he’s a “nice guy” lol
@completeandwholetee4 ай бұрын
He said he knew he was sleeping real good these last couple of years. I would ask if he still sleeps well today (April 8)?
@TdT22114 ай бұрын
1:20 Sunn, blood, a word J used in the trans naming bar. Hope we'll explore that more. I understand where you and J are coming from but the subject matter is so dense. And I'm not Black but culturally I am. Therefore have learned that blood has so much meaning in both ways that he used them, as you already know. Anyway, have a good day! TTYS😊😢
@sunnmcheaux4 ай бұрын
Huh? He was literally referring to a menstrual cycle.
@rahbeeuh4 ай бұрын
So much respect for him.
@MadameL3334 ай бұрын
Now see I ONLY clicked on this cause I wanted to hear your commentary... 😢
@Diana2112Gaming4 ай бұрын
So I'm trans. Where's the actual apology?
@user-mr2le3tu1f4 ай бұрын
Exactly like what apology??? Damn cis ppl just don't care
@lmichelle80sbaby4 ай бұрын
I get that the trans community is bothered but his diss wasnt exactly transphobia as much as it was "rap-diss-rhetoric". This doesn't make it sound better if it bothers you but i hope it explains it. To the traditional rap community, men have always called their foes "feminine", "female", b-word, referred to them having "that time of the month", etc and any other way they could immaculate the foe with words. ITS THE NATURE OF THE RAP-DISS GAME... I don’t think they're transphobic because the intent is to make your male foe feel less masculine, not to disparage women or transpeople... and I honestly dont think it will ever change. *personal opinion, its lame but I'm 43 so I i understand the roots.
@perchperkins064 ай бұрын
That's true, and I'm not dissing the history, but it was misogynistic, bc our culture was more misogynistic. a lot of new rappers are going away from that, bc if you're good, you don't need to drag women or trans ppl into it. Femininity isn't bad and it's cringe to think calling someone feminine is a diss, especially now. I would look into FD. Singnifiers stuff, he talks a lot abt how rap has evolved, as someone who grew up w it in the 80s and 90s. I say this as someone who loves hip hop, rap is kinda dying, and it will keep dying if it doesn't evolve bc most younger ppl aren't with the misogynistic or homophobic stuff, or calling a man feminine as a diss. Like if theres nothing else you can think of, youre not very good imo. There's a lot more openly queer ppl and women in the rap game now, and they want rap to be a place for their communities too.
@lmichelle80sbaby4 ай бұрын
@@perchperkins06 thank you for hearing me.💗🤗 I definitely agree it's misogyny and outdated. I just hoped to calm some of the "phobic" energy and hopefully provide perspective. 🤷🏽♀️ Continue being open to share & recieve🙏
@denyshadials57024 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m thinking too. I understand how people feel today, however I also understand the history of rap and the culture (not just ethnicity, but socioeconomics as well) from which it came, and trans simply wasn’t a part of that in a positive light. Not to say they didn’t exist back then-they just weren’t an integral piece of this genre, just like women weren’t. All and all, people need to divest from it, not try to sanitize it. It’s in its own world, and the rest of the world has never truly been a part of it, just marveled at it. It’s also not something that’s ever really needed ‘funding’ like other music genres. Because truthfully, people who really enjoy rap as art don’t listen to commercial rap-they prefer underground. They don’t want the trendy ‘bubblegum rap’ that appeals to the masses. So if it ‘dies’ in the public, then it ‘dies’, but it’s not changing who invests in it.
@user-mr2le3tu1f4 ай бұрын
@denyshadials5702 women were absolutely part of hip-hop culture and although not hugely there were still trans ppl in the realm of hip-hop. I mean damn are we really erasing Lauren hill and other greats???
@denyshadials57024 ай бұрын
@@user-mr2le3tu1f I never said women weren’t a part of hip-hop culture, and women were very much an integral piece of hip hop. Rap and hip hop are not synonymous/interchangeable. Can they be combined? Of course, some of the greatest hits of both genres are these very combinations. But the same, they are not. Never have been and never will be.
@SperezUY4 ай бұрын
I respect him for coming out and saying this. Having said that, he can't keep saying he is the greatest rapper after this. You can't have the title without the fight, imo.
@beezar1134 ай бұрын
I’m not sure I agree with that, for me personally, being the goat isn’t about engaging in beefs that aren’t true to yourself, it’s about the actual talent held within you, and J Cole is a master at his craft, and I say this as a Kendrick diehard And if we’re gunna keep it a buck, nope we are not calling Drake the 🐐 if J Cole isn’t in the convo 😂👎
@kj_H65f4 ай бұрын
@@beezar113if he won't stand up for what he said in the booth then he should sit back down.
@MrTactics264 ай бұрын
To put it in perspective. I got in a argument with some scrub a few years ago and he was such a lame he was harassing everyone. Finally one of my best friends called me and asked me to please apologize to this guy so he would leave everyone alone. It worked and completely disarmed him. Kendrick is not on the same hemisphere as Cole…he didn’t want smoke with irrelevant rappers.
@noeraldinkabamАй бұрын
M.A.N.
@miraclemiracle92894 ай бұрын
That's why I love Cole !!!!
@BLACKONCODE20244 ай бұрын
There is a new ideology, mindset and energy being ushered in🧘🏽♂️🌞🌍🌙🌠 Get on CODE, or get left behind🌬
@leftisbestpolitics4 ай бұрын
Respect to what he just did there
@eneodu37554 ай бұрын
We are all we've got
@GhostnisanArt4 ай бұрын
I love them both. Their music has saved my life (literally) several times 💜🌟🙏
@koolbeams4 ай бұрын
He's only apologizing because he lost beeg in less than 24 hours😂
@teresaabrown80774 ай бұрын
IT takes a Big Man to admit when He's Wrong. Today People love Drama and Hate. What a Waste of Time. God sees YOUR❤✌ 🙏. Keep Doing The Right Things. Amen😘😘
@Volundur95674 ай бұрын
But he didn't even apologize to the community he offended. He didn't even directly apologize to anyone.
@nikkib.60054 ай бұрын
I love this!!! It is so MATURE of him!!!
@williamsmithers94904 ай бұрын
HALLELUYAH
@KExKE4 ай бұрын
I respect him for this. Everyone wanted him to respond to what was a blatant diss to Drake because they know Drake ain’t up to par with Kendrick. He let Drake pressure him into replying in his place knowing he didn’t believe what he was saying on that track. I don’t like seeing so many people bashing him for staying true to himself let him move how he see fit. I’m sure Kendrick just put a track in the recycle bin after this.
@imeaniguess.69634 ай бұрын
…He bout to fire one off in a couple weeks lmao!!! I called the exact date of Cole’s track dropping. If he doesn’t have an album coming then give it two weeks since Cole took 2.
@user-et9zu3zq9u4 ай бұрын
This is a man and I'm a fan God bless you #Coleworld I'm only following unity... The whole world wants black ppl at each throat
@qm-sl6hy4 ай бұрын
Welp, growth, accountability, and maturity. We do not need another Tupac and Biggie situation.
@TabancaQueen4 ай бұрын
Jermaine Cole is that real one. I love me some Cole and Kdot. Bare good vibes.✌🏾
@VashtiPerry4 ай бұрын
I love him❤
@TdT22114 ай бұрын
You know I got thoughts. But what do you think Sunn? Let us know in the next video?
@hw10344 ай бұрын
Real MEN talk. Real MEN stance. Live for God and righteous. The juju energy is often found in nizzas group - real talk. I prefer the greater man, than the petty man. Don't matter the faith or religion, my historical research dictates that the Universe holds everyone accountable for their actions - positive or negative. Happy that J. Cole recognized that before those dark forces reclaim him. Real talk. Well, done.❤😊
@Mostlyharmless19854 ай бұрын
I think I know exactly one rap/hip hop act that was or is positive towards the LGBT community. Are there more? I sure hope so, but stuff like this doesn’t show me the space is safe for people like me, I’m not going to go digging in manure to look for gold.
@user-mr2le3tu1f4 ай бұрын
Kendricks auntie Diaries first off is genuinely groundbreaking for many cis people but TONS of queer black artists make great hip-hop music. As a trans woman, I love a lot of hip-hop, and tbh I would assume that you're probably a white gay man who just wants an excuse not to like "black music".
@Mostlyharmless19854 ай бұрын
@@user-mr2le3tu1f I Love “black music” (whatever the fuck that is.) i listen to jazz, pop, and rock and roll, grew up with Michael Jackson and Chuck Berry. I don’t need an excuse to dislike *HIP HOP* it’s always been overtly misogynistic and homophobic in my eyes. Why do I need to see a hip hop artist behaving like and think “oh he’s one of the bad hip hop artists they are all not like this, this and you certainly haven’t given me any reason to explore it further with “There are plenty of Black queer artists in hip hop.” Ok, who? Name them, Especially since you spoke of the exactly one act that I knew of that was positive. The only other act I know of is Macklemore with “Same Love”. I’m sure you’ll claim he’s a white invader or other such nonsense though. Great job making this about race. I’ll continue to refuse to dig in manure to look for gold since you haven’t shown me any nuggets that weren’t corn.
@MishasMama4 ай бұрын
JCole punches down on Trans people, and you use that to punch down on Hip Hop/Rap and compare the whole genre & people to "manure".
@user-mr2le3tu1f4 ай бұрын
@@MishasMama yep... I'm a trans person and I bet all my cards this is a sour racist annoying ass white gay guy trying to find any reason to be triggered
@MishasMama4 ай бұрын
@@user-mr2le3tu1fagreed.
@liltitan94354 ай бұрын
It's Hip Hop, he could have went back and forth with the pen. No physical violence was happening smh Cole let me down
@cypress22124 ай бұрын
Ok BIG UP COLE!!!!
@1ginachell4 ай бұрын
Censorship has gone haywire. The people are censoring the word trans in music but other words, which are constantly used to demoralize, demean and/or dehumanize are ok!? Zero tolerance should be just that, not this pick and choose version of who gets to be offended BS.
@sunnmcheaux4 ай бұрын
Nobody's censoring the word "trans." He literally said it in a transphobic verse unchecked. FYM??
@donnafreeman15714 ай бұрын
Is it weird that when Diddy and Meek Mill "relationship" came to light and the Diddy parties list is out. All of a sudden this beef is form, out of nowhere? Hmmm
@GINYH4 ай бұрын
I love his music, respect his choices. just not into the god shit
@jamescarter64684 ай бұрын
First off, he has nothing to really apologize for. The trans bar was a mistake sure, but listen, every-time someone makes a big deal over some racist, homophobic stuff, it only solidifies the opposition. I mean do what you want and fight how you must because I’ve done the same in my life for causes I’ve believed in, but I also know that “doing too much” gains you a swift backlash. You can be conscious and not agree with every nuanced take ya know? Internal biases are something we all share and yeah, it feels bad when comments are made for a mass audience, but I dunno man, I personally don’t see the fire for a trans bar just like I don’t take offense to Ramirez or Maddrox using slurs or whatever. I think we need to look at Rap and understand that change is coming, albeit slowly. Why give haters another talking point when it’s not needed? I’m sure he realizes the bar wasn’t okay, but to make that bar in the first place means that maybe he holds some type of way towards that community (which is still largely acceptable in the black community) and the condemnation won’t go far enough (as people talk about in this post). As a non-trans cis male, I don’t get the issue of his lyrics and people overblowing them, but I guess I’ve forgotten what it’s like to so recently have a voice. I dunno if I’d seek to demand apologies from someone who spiritually doesn’t align with me, but you do you, hopefully you get it and be grateful and not come at him for it being “weak” or “halfhearted” because like.. he wrote that bar right? You know how he feels and it may just be easier to nod and move on. Be disappointed sure, but.. I dunno, I’m not qualified for this conversation and I accept whatever criticisms follow.
@jadedjene87864 ай бұрын
Accountability is to alluring.
@razzenvythebest92484 ай бұрын
I’m nonbinary and cannot grasp how Cole disrespected the Trans community. Like when I hear the bars people are talking about, to my ear he’s talking about a specific trans person, as opposed to disrespecting an entire community. Am I understanding that right? If someone could respectfully enlighten me as to their perspective of it specifically I’d greatly appreciate that 🙏🏽 As far as apologizing to KDot- I see this as a chess move too. Now the best thing Kendrick could do is Nothing. If KDot does nothing people gon say Coke conceded, if KDot comes back w something though then it HAS to be disrespectful. And the next step of this beef is to get REAL disrespectful either way which is why Cole would try to lower tensions prior. If Dot comes back w Heavy Disrespect, I feel like Coke would actually allow himself to let loose fr. Both parties held back they true power lyrically speaking
@user-mr2le3tu1f4 ай бұрын
Did you listen to the lyrics? He's making fun of Kendricks song where Kendrick accepts his trans family members. As a trans woman, yall enbies need to shut your mouths sometimes.
@Cicada-Screams4 ай бұрын
So because he only attacked trans men its okay? Not nonbinaries or trans women so its okay for him to mock a cis man by comparing him to the majority of trans men's current physical state to emasculate him. Got it.
@Cicada-Screams4 ай бұрын
@@user-mr2le3tu1fthank you
@joshuasimmons64434 ай бұрын
😏😏
@thomasbailey75804 ай бұрын
He deserve praise for that real Carolina boy 💯
@oya-adjuasankofa73384 ай бұрын
Dude's with Yt Mom's aren't allowed to say the N-word.Aubrey and Jermaine.😏
@pietrycranberry66214 ай бұрын
I'm not trying to justify anything,but J Cole is married to a Black woman and seems more supportive of Black people than Drake.
@kimochi__4 ай бұрын
what a dumbass take
@XaraK14 ай бұрын
But Phat Joe is 😮
@DOTTAisKING4 ай бұрын
It's a sad day for hip hop when the soft shit is taking over 🤦🏿♂️
@vercinsogolon43454 ай бұрын
People really trying to make running off at the mouth then tucking your tail is respectable.
@VashtiPerry4 ай бұрын
Apologizing is respectable. Being aligned with yourself is 💯 percent respectable.
@imeaniguess.69634 ай бұрын
Bro could’ve at least had a respectable lyrical spar. I don’t think the people hear even listen to Cole like that. He’s been talking so much about how he’s the best and at other rappers, shading Kendrick his entire career. Even a couple days ago,”Cool when it’s tension”, then folds.
@vercinsogolon43454 ай бұрын
@@VashtiPerry Makes sense, some people have coward spirits. Shouldn't have ever compared himself to Muhammad Ali.
@vercinsogolon43454 ай бұрын
@@imeaniguess.6963 I don't think they really know anything about hip hop period, nor care to. He's been popping trash for a long time, but he only gets right with his soul when it seems like someone will hit back.
@imeaniguess.69634 ай бұрын
@@vercinsogolon4345 True, that’s what I’m saying. The time finally comes to prove your number 1, the king of rap. Then all of a sudden you have no heart. I was honestly disappointed when he jumped right to gun bars instead of lyricism and wordplay or just overall real rap spitting facts(which he kinda did). I thought he could win by going after the fact that he was real conscious rap and he at least had that over Kendrick. He was even in the right since Kendrick dissed him for no reason. From what I’m seeing they definitely don’t know much about hip hop, it’s just some bandwagon that was hopped on. I think they think they’re going to hurt each other or something. 😂
@glendaniels8214 ай бұрын
All that "feel like Muhammad Ali" barking really gassed me up. I was expecting something to eclipse Ether, Hit em Up, No Vaseline, but with lyrical mastery and respect for the craft!!! Instead I get Drake crying on stage "CANT NOBODY ON THIS EARFF...." and Cole just rolled over and showed his belly... on stage... with "Smooches daddy, hit me again please." Lames
@Bandwithbrass4 ай бұрын
Dispite the fans I'm still on yo channel ... I'm here today cuz still don't know what the K-Dot Cole issue is.... How the Twitter Goons don't have a vendetta