If anyone wants to hear the entire downrange audio, it can be downloaded here: drive.google.com/open?id=17fe5WyHilUCO_7WGR_HTD42Fb3RTDI_Y
@garytucker57485 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing,great topic,and video.
@dermotrooney95845 жыл бұрын
Lovely. More please. Didn't spot the kit you're using but if you get the bug you'll see most devices fall down on crack and uncorking (140+ v short duration). I got a b&k 2250 from these guys for measuring down range crack: www.gracey.co.uk/sound-level-meter.htm. Better than buying kit (£8k!) and they're used to military applications.
@aggese5 жыл бұрын
Aren't you in Switzerland? You should compare it to the B&T VP9 with new and used baffels
@ditzydoo43785 жыл бұрын
Makes one wonder at the number of these Welrods that are still lurking about getting up to al kinds of mischief and skullduggery. >_< Good on 007, we'll have your Walther fitted for a Broush suppressor in less than a fortnight.
@felixthecat2655 жыл бұрын
@@ditzydoo4378 Bond was originally armed by Fleming with a .25 Beretta. Geoff Boothroyd who worked for ICI and published widely on small arms wrote to Fleming suggesting he change to the .32 PPK. Fleming may have been aware of the existence of the Welrod as his brother Peter worked for Gubbins in the formation of the Auxiliary Units which certainly had Welrods. Could never put my finger on Boothroyd, who seems to have been considered an "expert" at the time, but if you read his books now he comes across as a bit of a billy bullsh1tter..!
@peterihoy49085 жыл бұрын
So long as it could be dismantled without causing damage, it would be really interesting to to see what it sounded like with a set of new wipes.
@BlokeontheRange5 жыл бұрын
Yup. Definitely. If the owner replaces them and we have the opportunity, we'll see what it does!
@toomanyaccounts5 жыл бұрын
@@BlokeontheRange note the wipes were meant to be replaced every mag or so. since rubber wipes were often commercially found or the sheets, resistence groups were able to replace the baffles.
@toomanyaccounts5 жыл бұрын
@NinjaRider777R actuallly not true. if they are just rubber washers then they are not illegal to have and can be legally used in the can. same with a sheet of neoprene rubber. you just cut out the rubber when you have to service the can and put in the recylcing bin the old rubber washers. the atf doesn't give a shit if you do this since legally rubber washers and a sheet of rubber you use a punch on to make rubber washers is not illegal. also there are silencers that are sold in the US that use a rubber washer and its not a silencer wipe since it is a rubber washer you buy at home depot.
@nevadie1335 жыл бұрын
NinjaRider777R Rubber washers and rubber sheets are not illegal. I saw some at Lowe’s yesterday.
@ANF_945 жыл бұрын
@@nevadie133 buying them is not illegal sure. But actually using them without going through the proper channels and paying fees is a felony. Is it worth it?
@dmforsyth3 жыл бұрын
12:33 . Pulls the mag and clears the chamber in order to put the gun down for 5 seconds and put on ear protection. That kind of responsible professionalism should not be overlooked. There's a lesson there for any shooter. Bravo!
@BlokeontheRange3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :)
@HiroNguy2 жыл бұрын
@@BlokeontheRange Yes! I immediately noticed that, too. While I'm a raging libertarian and don't trust gummint narcissists to enforce nor determine safety requirements I have also seen too much Bubba type 💩 on open ranges (in the US this means public lands where shooting is allowed) so lately actually prefer formally run shooting facilities.
@WpGaming12 жыл бұрын
That just sounds like common gun safety.
@vladdehboiii8888 Жыл бұрын
@@HiroNguy Pro-gun or anti-gun, everyone should know how to safely behave around, operate, maintain, and handle firearms. I'm a Norwegian, and while I don't have the same access to guns like Americans have, I am huge on educating about safety in regards to firearms. Especially in a range setting, when around other people. Edit: I want to add that while being too strict isn't necessarily good, there are indeed a LOT of people who should NOT handle a gun.
@occamraiser Жыл бұрын
@@HiroNguy That's where these dangerous toys belong. Not at political rallys like trumps acolytes like to turn up with. BTW - why do they all fetishise the AR15?
@ChaosPootato5 жыл бұрын
11:10 clap for reference 11:33 Welrod 12:29 Glock 43 sub-sonic 13:15 Glock 43 normal ammo
@MasonMagruder695 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the Welrod sound significantly quieter than that halfhearted clap? Amazing that even with the wipes shot out how well the Welrod can muffle the sound
@4ae1094 жыл бұрын
@@MasonMagruder69 Probably because it's being shot far away from the tripod. Also I heard it being louder than the claps, so idk?
@michaelbuckers4 жыл бұрын
@@MasonMagruder69 It's just you. Welrod's shot volume is about 120 db - as loud as a jackhammer.
@JangoAC3 жыл бұрын
thanks
@mkri963 жыл бұрын
lol the Welrod was loud if you ask me
@darkstarnh5 жыл бұрын
My father was in the British forces in Cyprus during the Eoka period in the late 50's. He never spoke about it but once let slip that his best friend was 'Mr Welrod'.
@BigBeerus4 жыл бұрын
@matt keese its called war not murder you fucking spazz. Also 70 ppl disagree with you. Piss off hippie
@bigeboye60004 жыл бұрын
@matt keese you're* lol
@mrsniff36764 жыл бұрын
Welrod wasn't a human name, please
@MrWadsox4 жыл бұрын
@@BigBeerus hey let's not disrespect hippies. They gave us way more than conservatives did.
@notmemeoftheweek66744 жыл бұрын
matt keese go back to watching family guy you spastic malaker
@tylerwhite99233 жыл бұрын
Now that I think about it, the bolt action is actually kind of ingenious. You get a suppressed handgun firing a common cartridge that doesn't leave a casing behind unless you choose to run the bolt.
@trainliker1002 жыл бұрын
It also doesn't produce any noise from a cycling recoil or gas operated mechanism. It is not only an inexpensive design, but it adds to the quietness.
@daylan2335 жыл бұрын
You can definitely tell an enfield user by the way they slap a very rare firearms action closed.
@jamesrivettcarnac5 жыл бұрын
That is quite enough to sound loud on a recording.
@TheLesserWeevil5 жыл бұрын
But the rubber baffles are in shitty condition, so it would be a lot quieter as designed.
@TransistorBased5 жыл бұрын
It's a bit louder than clapping. Still pretty amazing
@kmoecub5 жыл бұрын
Most video cameras automatically adjust the sound level. I'm sure it's much quieter than the recording makes out.
@notmemeoftheweek66744 жыл бұрын
The weapon was meant to be shot around 15 times before the baffles had to be replaced. The baffles don’t actually have holes in them so the first shot is extremely quiet or “Hollywood quiet”.
@Vollification4 жыл бұрын
1. It's an old weapon 2. The ideal method of using this is to shoot an isolated person in the back of the head at point blank range during a rainstorm or when other things are happening.
@occamraiser Жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration of the Welrod. Thanks very much - as a long term resident of Welwyn and general WW II buff I've occasionally wondered just 'how' stealthy they were.
@PWARHOLM5 жыл бұрын
Great to see some footage of this 'Unicorn'!
@john-paulsilke8935 жыл бұрын
Peter Warholm a throw away Unicorn at that. Isn’t the world a strange place. I have a safe full of super modern and very excellent pistols that I would easily trade for this rubbish pistol without remorse and with little effort. In fact I may easily be convinced to trade my $3,000 hand built race gun for just the opportunity to shoot a dozen rounds from this dinosaur gun that I could make in my garage for $50 and a donor barrel worth of steel. (I dare not do it because Canadian gun laws and all that, but the same is true for the USA and many other free countries). 🤪
@MatthewsSloan4 жыл бұрын
It was supposed to be like a close personal assassins weapon. Something you could press to the back of an SS Officers head in an urban setting without bringing too much attention. Reliable and long enough to be able to place muzzle where you want it for a quick single round to the head. Cool gun.
@TakNuke5 жыл бұрын
What is today? International special forces day you with welrod, Ian with Mk23 and James of TFB with Sig p226 Navy.
@dave_h_87423 жыл бұрын
Just watched Gun Jesus showing off a Welrod then this pops up.
@AlastorTheNPDemon5 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember _Medal of Honor: Rising Sun_ and how OP this little bastard was?
@troychristensen4646 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it was my favorite gun in the game.
@mingheemouse5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an accuracy test with new wipes in the can. Because the wipes actually contact the projectile in flight, they would likely introduce a degree if inconsistency not present in the current example.
@TheLesserWeevil5 жыл бұрын
Love this thing. What I wouldn't give to see it fired with fresh baffles.
@dbracer5 жыл бұрын
I downloaded the sound clip and pushed the gunshots through Audacity's "Contrast" tool, which compares relative volume levels. Although one of the stereo channels appears to be broken in the clip, comparing the first, second and third round types shows that the Welrod was about 5dB lower than the first set of Glock rounds and more than 6dB down on the second set. As noted, though, the peak sound levels were clipped for all samples, so this is definitely not more than a rough comparison. The aircraft flying overhead can't be helping, either. If you slow the replay down, you can hear two-three echoes as well.
@Finglesham2 жыл бұрын
And the Welrod was built in a shed for a few shillings. Britain , back to the wall and its inventors given free range. OH, to be there again.
@trainliker1002 жыл бұрын
It is VERY important for one of these to have new, or nearly new, baffles. In fact, for the first shot, the baffles don't even have holes in them yet. Once a handful of rounds has been fired, the noise starts to climb. This video doesn't remotely demonstrate how quiet one of these things can be. With fresh baffles, and for probably at least a half dozen shots, the report is considerably quieter than the sound you hear in this video when he cycles the bolt to load a new round. If there is any background noise at all, you can't really hear one of these.
@dolphin0695 жыл бұрын
'ROD' was a colloquial British forces term for a weapon. As in 'rodded up' - carrying a weapon.
@aunnaqvi31335 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a euphemism for gay sex.
@wardropcr5 жыл бұрын
That, or, "Rod . Noun. A thin straight bar, especially of wood or metal."
@mingheemouse5 жыл бұрын
"Rod" was also contemporary American gangster slang, and appeared in a plethora of Hollywood movies in the 1930's and 40's. So I agree with the derivation as referencing well established slang on both sides of the pond.
@ste8875 жыл бұрын
I'm a brit never heard that term used. To denote someone carrying a weapon we have always referred to them as either carrying or tooled up
@dolphin0695 жыл бұрын
@@ste887 certainly in 50's and 60's.
@Jazzman-bj9fq4 жыл бұрын
Aha, my weapon from Sniper Elite ;)
@nchunter89185 жыл бұрын
One note on it being a "contact weapon" it probably has much less to do with the accuracy alone, and more to do with the expected accuracy when it would actually be used (not calm and collected off of a rest) and it's extremely low power, and fairly slow follow up. But regardless, yes it seems to be plenty inherently accurate for its purpose! And awesome to see one in action
@creanero5 жыл бұрын
I wonder would it be possible to get fresh baffles made to get a sense of what it would have been like in its original configuration. I imagine it really would be very quiet.
@Legitpenguins995 жыл бұрын
Considering it just used and punched a hole into rubber baffles it should be extremely easy to remake some
@teppokuusisto1445 жыл бұрын
@@Legitpenguins99 rubber, plastic, aluminum... If that front-end can be disassembled then it is no job at all to replace those baffles.
@videodistro5 жыл бұрын
@@Legitpenguins99 only three of the baffles were rubber. All the others were not.
@siem31135 жыл бұрын
@@videodistro check the forgotten weapons video on a modern Welrod inspired weapon as well as the real one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWjXgWypadKga6s
@TheDavephillips5 жыл бұрын
You can, in fact, buy "Welrod" silencers in UK, they're advertised under that name for hunting rifles. Funny how firearms are less freely available there but silencers are perfectly legal. I know they're prohibited here in Canada where guns are easy to buy. Funny old world. Cheers.
@Genesis23OPB5 жыл бұрын
thats awesome, AATS is my favorite gun dealer and i go there frequently. he showed the wellrod to me as well, but not to other customers at the time. im glad he gave it to you for a video. would have been awesome to see a compairson with a modern VP from b&t.
@BlokeontheRange5 жыл бұрын
Matt is literally sitting just out of shot to the left of frame :) Maybe next year if we're feeling flush with Patreon cash, or find someone who's got one, we'll try a VP9.
@Genesis23OPB5 жыл бұрын
@@BlokeontheRange i'll let you know if i ever bought one :D btw, i too was amazed how the trigger on the wellrod wasnt all that bad for a gun of that purpose, quality and age.
@budslinger68775 жыл бұрын
Good group with the S&B ammo considering that it's a contact weapon
@bgbeck555 жыл бұрын
"Rod" as in the American slang term for a handgun of "rod". It was a popular term in gangster and film noir movies of the 1930's and 1940's.
@skepticalbadger5 жыл бұрын
Yes, not random at all, none of the Wel names are. Plus it is shaped like a literal rod. The single shot sleeve pistol version was "Welwand".
@AHPcameron4 жыл бұрын
Finally the one video I find where someone shoots this thing, kept looking at other channels and it was just 30 minutes of talking, like don’t get me wrong I like learning about guns and all but sometimes I’d just like to see it shoot!... And of course being a rather unique suppressed weapon I wanted to hear how loud it really was firing...
@marcpomaville94292 жыл бұрын
This would be a poor representation, the rubber pieces are shot out that do most of the suppression
@bluur1015 жыл бұрын
Way back last century, I made a routine visit to the unit armourers 'shop' (back when L85 was new and had lots of mods) and he showed a suppressed Sterling (from some other unit) which was in for maintenance. I was surprised to see that a large part of the baffling was in a spiral shape, rather than being disks coaxial with the barrel, but of course the SMG was much larger than the pistol so there was more room for being 'clever'. I wasn't switched on enough to work out how that spiral compared to the locations of the drillings in the very short barrel though. One assumes that the Welrod baffles could be replaced by any silicon rubber sheet of the appropriate dimension?
@felixthecat2655 жыл бұрын
The issue with the Sterling was that you could not use downloaded 9mm as it would not cycle. The perforated barrel was designed to be used with issue Mk2 Z ammo which was supersonic. The perforations bled off gas to reduce the velocity to sub sonic. The spiral baffle was designed to slow down the gas pulse from the perforations as well as from the end of the muzzle. Parallel baffles would simply have blown out under the pressures involved.
@No1sonuk5 жыл бұрын
@@felixthecat265 The MP5SD is also designed to use standard supersonic 9mm.
@felixthecat2655 жыл бұрын
@@No1sonuk Yep.. however the MP5 has a Vorgrimler hesitation lock and fires from a closed bolt, which gives it a much more controllable action. The Sterling is a simple blowback, and is much harder to silence. The MP5SD silencer is made of much better modern materials, whereas the Sterling is made of pretty standard mild steel.. different generations.
@ineednochannelyoutube53844 жыл бұрын
Sounds like an air rifle. You can even hear the bullet impact.
@Saberjet19505 жыл бұрын
cant wait for the mad minute on this thing
@TX200AA7 ай бұрын
the Wel is just for Welwyn, a village in Hertfordshire, where a house called The Frythe was taken over by the Specia;l Operations Executive during WW2, as Station X for the development of weapons and tools for SOE operations in occupied Europe. Welwyn Garden City is a post WW2 development of a new town, and is slightly to the south of Welwyn.
@trainliker1002 жыл бұрын
With proper baffles, especially brand new ones that don't have any hole in them yet, the sound is far less than the sound you hear in the video of cycling the mechanism to load a new round. It is, frankly, pretty amazing.
@nosaltiesandrooshere74884 жыл бұрын
Für eine Commando Schalldämpferpistole ist diese verdammt laut! 👍 excellent, thank you!
@alexmoody92595 жыл бұрын
Being from wgc myself I have to say you pronounced Welwyn perfectly :)
@jackusmc25425 жыл бұрын
You have very nice ranges in Switzerland.
@cheesenoodles83165 жыл бұрын
That was a cool pistol, very specialized, covert stuff. Great to see it shot.
@Breakfast_and_Bullets5 жыл бұрын
Unless I'm mistaken, you're the only person with a live-fire video of a Welrod. Not just on KZbin, but anywhere. If someone can prove me wrong, please do.
@gunsandblanks7065 жыл бұрын
This guy shoots the old and new welrod with fresh baffles kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4Coo6WfYpiNa6c
@Breakfast_and_Bullets5 жыл бұрын
@@gunsandblanks706 How dare you call Tim "this guy!" Such disrespect..... *Trying to detract from the fact that I somehow missed this video, despite watching MAC religiously*
@chaos.corner4 жыл бұрын
@@gunsandblanks706 Would probably help if they put Welrod in the title.
@Legitpenguins995 жыл бұрын
Wow, awesome video. First I've found of actual shooting. But sadly we are only getting half the picture as it does not have new baffles like it would have most of the time. With the baffles its reportedly litterally hollywood quiet. Youd think it would be easy to find a couple rubber disks to use as baffles but i guess not
@KarltheKrazyone5 жыл бұрын
There could also be legal considerations, it could be legal as is, considering its design. But making wipes might be "manufacturing a suppressor" which could be illegal. No idea if that is the case there, but I've heard it talked about in various places.
@BlokeontheRange5 жыл бұрын
There would be no legal considerations in Switzerland. It's up to the pistol's owner to decide if he wants to play about with making new wipes or not, it's not my place. You'd have to ensure the hardness was right to avoid any mishaps.
@OspreyKnight4 жыл бұрын
@@KarltheKrazyone Unfortunately when the GCA was enacted in the US there was zero debate on silencers. They hadn't really been used in crime, they were more or less novel. A politician called it a device for which its sole purpose is assassination and it was lumped in with machine guns. Meanwhile many countries recognized them as safety devices. I've heard that the UK encourages shooters to use them.
@nellinecronje69115 жыл бұрын
But does it have primary extraction? (I'll get my coat...)
@BlokeontheRange5 жыл бұрын
In fact, it doesn't :)
@timhubbard88953 жыл бұрын
After about 5 shots the rubber wipes that suppress the shot, it becomes a lot louder. It is only at it's most effective from it's first or second shot. The rubber wipes in the suppressor have no holes when new and un-fired, after the first shot the wipes begin to have a bore and thus the louder firing sound.
@zacharycolton267 Жыл бұрын
The birds chirping in the background is a really good sound gauge, notice how with the welrod there was no interruption in the birds
@Chlorate2995 жыл бұрын
I've wondered how quiet the Welrod really was ever since I heard of it, what an interesting thing to get your mitts on. Very much a gun only designed to shoot the number of bullets it has in its magazine. I wonder if there's someone about that could replace the rubber wipes to show us how quiet it really was...
@patheddles40043 жыл бұрын
Very bloody quiet. Here's Tim from the Military Arms Channel test-firing a modern remake and an original Welrod, both with fresh wipes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4Coo6WfYpiNa6c
@mrpirate34705 жыл бұрын
3:16 The silencer Is user servicable. Simply unscrew the front cap and replace the wipes with the spares issued with the weapon, then screw it back up again. BSA Still make them, Welrods are still on establishment with our special forces as well as the US and others.
@indeed72895 жыл бұрын
can tell you for a fact that no they aren't
@Ni9995 жыл бұрын
@@michaelwarnock3988 How about a cutaway? _Silent But Deadly: Welrod Mk IIA_ kzbin.info/www/bejne/mmKVcp2setiUfsk
@elijahmccormick33604 жыл бұрын
indeed what is this fact that you are so sure of lol
@SafetyProMalta5 жыл бұрын
I would assume the wipes are easy to reproduce given availability of rubber washers and leather.
@BlokeontheRange5 жыл бұрын
Probably, but you'd need to get the hardness right. If Matt manages to reproduce them adequately, we'll see if we can't repeat the exercise :)
@SafetyProMalta5 жыл бұрын
@@BlokeontheRange That would be fantastic obviously empire sourced rubber was used back then...none of that synthetic crap. Send your minions fo Malaya to tap a tree 🤣
@felixthecat2655 жыл бұрын
Neoprene works well.. allegedly! You need to be careful with the metal baffles when you replace them and use a spud to make sure they are lined up. You get a distinct phut-hiss from the first few shots which are by far the quietest!
@lordsummerisle875 жыл бұрын
@@BlokeontheRange If the wipes currently in the pistol are original to 1940something the rubber will have hardened, which I can only imagine would reduce the silencing effect which to my mind makes this even more impressive.
@daltonkinsey86143 жыл бұрын
the difference is outstanding
@pickeljarsforhillary1025 жыл бұрын
Medal of Honor: Rising Sun anyone?
@elliswatanabe5 жыл бұрын
i remember having to aim low left because the crosshair isn't aligned properly.
@bluesrocker915 жыл бұрын
Me and a mate always used to have "Welrod Only" splitscreen matches. I seem to remember they got it wrong in the game though, making it a single shot, manually fed pistol, rather than magazine fed.
@elliswatanabe5 жыл бұрын
@@bluesrocker91 i forgot about that, but imfdb says you're right.
@mannys91305 жыл бұрын
@SolarEmp1re5 жыл бұрын
singapore sling
@mybuickskill69794 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say. To keep the semi auto quiet. You can hold the slide shut. It will help tame the sound. It will be quieter then having sound escape through the breech as it does.
@LN997-i8x5 жыл бұрын
That's a really, really nice little range setup!
@johnivanp4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if it's my imagination, but it sounded quieter when the second gentleman was shooting it. Interesting video, thanks guys.
@pnutz_25 жыл бұрын
this sounds like every generic handgun sound from the early 90s but uncompressed
@13lochie5 жыл бұрын
That is such an interesting story behind that pistol.
@rb67mustang Жыл бұрын
Before watching your video, I watched Forgotten Weapons video of the Welrod. Ian, said the rubber wipes when new didn't have a hole in them. So, possibly the first couple shots were much quieter. Then as the rubber wipes had a 32 caliber hole it wasn't such a silent killer. Maybe you could try and replace the rubber wipes yourself. Even if it's not the exact same rubber; it would be interesting to see how quiet the Welrod would be. Thanks for sharing this test firing video, Ian wasn't able to test fire the one he showed in his video.
@scottwatts3879 Жыл бұрын
thank you for this.
@bigmaddad76893 жыл бұрын
The Welrod could be rebuilt with leather disks that would be even more sound suppressing than the rubber disks. Anyone in the field could make new leather disks with a small X cut in the center that would be way more durable than any rubber. I wish there was a chance for him to fire the Welrod in the night to see if it kept the flash from giving away the shooters position. Great stuff Bloke on the range. I am new to your channel but I look forward to seeing more vids by you in the future.
@carlchallinor49333 жыл бұрын
I m a bit disappinted. I came to hear a welrod fire. This will mislead people.
@carlchallinor49333 жыл бұрын
and its mentioned in historical sources that silence, and the welrod was possible. (timeghost has a few good sources) this ignorant stuff annoys me because its playing and misleading. No one ever willingly used a welrod like in this vid.
@bigmaddad76893 жыл бұрын
@@carlchallinor4933 He was lucky to find someone with a working Welrod that could feel comfortable loaning it for use on the show. I think he is just trying show how well the gun still works even though the disks are worn out. It was working well to fire the modern amo without hearing protection. If he found one to purchase and rebuilt the disks to show how amazing it worked would have been incredible. The cost and finding anyone who wanted to part with one may have proved too much for his budget. I imagine to, the gun would have worked very well, under a cloak or trench coat to dispatch someone in the street as you walked by. Probably some elder gents would have a lot to tell us about it but unfortunately the internet is not easy accessible to very elderly people. Have a great weekend.
@mybuickskill69794 жыл бұрын
From what I hear about them they were produced actually just outside of London. In a town called wel something or other. They made a lot of welthings with very much clandestine thoughts put into their conceptions and engineering.
@durayenterprisesllc44403 жыл бұрын
You mean kind of like he specifically explains in the first minute of the video?
@mybuickskill69793 жыл бұрын
Welyeah
@j.yossarian68525 жыл бұрын
Oooo, nice alpenflage cap.
@konatychuk5 жыл бұрын
J.Yossarian i was checking the comments to see if anyone knew what it was called. I have a jacket with the same pattern. Good to finally know what it’s called!
@j.yossarian68525 жыл бұрын
@@konatychuk the Swiss were crazy about it.
@thegunpenguin5 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video, as always!
@lankey69695 жыл бұрын
Next week on Bloke on the Range; Digging a hole with a rake.
@TheArmourersBench5 жыл бұрын
Good stuff lads!!
@crispy91755 жыл бұрын
BotR: "You can tell it's this because the front sight is on the front." Me: "where else you would put the front sight? stupid." BotR: "as opposed to the other model with its front sight in the middle". Me: ohhhhhhh.
@madgeordie44694 жыл бұрын
These things were dropped to resistance groups all over Europe during WWII. After the war ended the British (and other) governments went to extraordinary lengths to get them back out of civilian hands as there was much concern about them being used on contemporary politicians who had some unpopular decisions to make.
@Finglesham2 жыл бұрын
SO true. Suddenly men who had all the weapons they wanted were denied hem. That is politics for you. If you are US you are lucky to have the second amendment. In the UK this stuff is out of bounds now. Yellow livered politicians.
@komitadjie5 жыл бұрын
"Minute of SS Colonel." XD Love it.
@dksdg3 жыл бұрын
From watching you two experienced shooters this was probably considered a point blank weapon because those using it had never actually fired it or had much pistol experience in general
@84kjk2 жыл бұрын
No shit. No one was sniping with it
@bluerift5 жыл бұрын
I expect there is a locker somewhere in Hereford with a few these of in that have seen the loving attention of an armorer or two. I bet they run and shoot sweet as a nut.
@unohoncho77274 жыл бұрын
An armourer with an HBM.... Hereford bad moustache lol
@zzzires50455 жыл бұрын
these were loaded with sub sonic rounds and the first 8 shots were VERY quiet with the first being almost silent and punching new holes through the wipes
@BlokeontheRange5 жыл бұрын
All 32 ACP is subsonic.
@blancsteve48195 жыл бұрын
Could it be made quieter by adding a gas like nitrogen to the initial setup. With a new foam rubber neoprene thingy ? Wel good show !
@felixthecat2655 жыл бұрын
no
@mannys91305 жыл бұрын
Perhaps, but the juice probably isn't worth the squeeze. The first shot through a silencer is usually louder than the following ones. That's because there is oxygen inside the baffle stack for the first shot and the burning gases continue to burn in the silencer and the pressure is still a bit higher than normal when it leaves the last baffle of the silencer. After the first shot, the oxygen is depleted and the powder gases don't burn anymore after entering the baffle stack; they just expand and cool down as intended.
@felixthecat2655 жыл бұрын
@@mannys9130 Not applicable to the Welrod.. first shot is always the quietest as the first bullet punches the holes in the rubber wipes. If you get combustion in one of these, you have some real ammunition issues. Don't compare these with HV rifle silencers which are operating under completely different conditions. Adding any gas to the expansion space will make absolutely no difference! I think the only way you could use gas to affect the sound would be to surround the silencer in a vacuum (or shoot in space!) .. or go down the Russian route and don't allow the gas out at all!
@JohnSmith-dt1tw5 жыл бұрын
Might be worth putting up something of a warning for the Glock sound, it was quite uncomfortable for me with headphones, and I spent the day at Bisley giving my eardrums a battering. Also it would have been quite informative to have had some of the conversation from the sound comparison portion as through the downrange device to compare. Aside from me being picky, that was an awesome video, I don't think I've really seen a video of a Welrod in use, and if so it was nowhere near as in depth as this one, keep up the good work, Bloke!
@BlokeontheRange5 жыл бұрын
The downrange sound recorder hardly picked the conversation up at all.
@BlokeontheRange5 жыл бұрын
You can listen to the whole file here: drive.google.com/open?id=17fe5WyHilUCO_7WGR_HTD42Fb3RTDI_Y
@JohnSmith-dt1tw5 жыл бұрын
@@BlokeontheRange That's interesting to listen to for comparison, but I see (or hear I guess) that it wouldn't have worked well in the video
@davidbrewer3595 жыл бұрын
Would a Welrod made in Dagenham be a Rod Sterling?
@Shadow_Hawk_Streaming5 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see this revisited with some form of replacement wipes, supposedly it was even quieter still, at least for the first few shots
@TheRealColBosch5 жыл бұрын
I am amazed that this was okayed for export by the UK. I had thought that these were still so hush-hush that it would've just vanished into the depths of a Royal armory somewhere. :D
@No1sonuk5 жыл бұрын
There's been enough info around the web for a while now that anyone with the right tools could build one themselves.
@felixthecat2655 жыл бұрын
A lot went into Europe during WW2 for resistance groups although they were never handed out like Liberators or Sten guns. It would seem that most got swept up by the new governments after the war and were retained by their SF and similar agencies, however some have evaded captivity! The only film available of the Welrod on Utube for many years was from a Norwegian resistance group. Fewer sleeve guns/Welwands seem to have survived, although these are pure assassination weapons and would not normally have been used by even resistance forces. I am aware of a few of these in working condition, but only in closed collections. More of the Soviet assassination weapon inventory has come to light after the breakup simply because the KGB/GRU was such a huge organisation. A number of examples came into the west after the fall of the Soviet Union, presumably to line the pockets of ex KGB armourers. I suspect the FSB has regained control of the inventory(..and the armourers!)
@forcemen1232 жыл бұрын
I tend to wonder if the recoil would be affected at all if New baffles were installed jn the barrel
@ZephyrusAsmodeus2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much the only gun I've ever fired in a video game that ever lived up to actually being silenced, makes sense, the entire gun is essentially a suppressor and dampener with a clip and bolt stuck in it lol
@emmafisher57765 жыл бұрын
Awesome video.
@andrewreeds15582 жыл бұрын
That one sounds like the baffles are burnt out. The 32" was normally exceptionally quiet. Interestingly when originally issued they had no stampings and no serial numbers. That was to prevent German weapons intelligence analysis. You were half right on the name. 'Wel' comes from Welwyn. Rod comes from the American gangster term for a pistol i.e. a 'rod'.
@stewbacca1175 жыл бұрын
Noice. Also. Dat 5.11 Range Ready bag. Twinsies! 🤙👌
@commander31able605 жыл бұрын
for some reason I always thought the Welrod was in .45 ACP. odd.
@derekduffner60485 жыл бұрын
You might be think of the De Lisle Carbine. An integral suppressed rifle made for a similar purpose
@commander31able605 жыл бұрын
@@derekduffner6048 yes I think i used to think their magazines were interchangeable.
@felixthecat2655 жыл бұрын
A few Welrods were made in .45ACP for the OSS, but were never taken into full production. There is one in the Spy Museum in Washington DC
@JerryEricsson5 жыл бұрын
I would love to have one of those old pelters, however my pocket book says that even if I could locate one, I could never afford the price, plus the ATF Tax
@earlgunman63255 жыл бұрын
The ATF tax is small potatoes...if you could find one for sale in the US, it'd be probably $5k or so given the scarcity of it especially over here. So the $200 tax isn't even worth mentioning. It would be awesome to have though...it is a simple design though and blueprints are very easy to find.
@cymond5 жыл бұрын
FWIW, if you want a suppressor, and you're willing to settle for one that ISN'T a collectible iconic weapon from 75 years ago, then you can find 22lr suppressors for $200+tax, and 9mm suppressors for $350+tax. They're not cheap, but they are achievable.
@earlgunman63255 жыл бұрын
@@cymond I bought one in February. I got a rifle suppressor mainly because I don't have any pistols with a threaded barrel and have several rifles with them. But I got it through Silencershop and they made everything very simple. I ordered it online, did all the paperwork online, they even have an app that you take a selfie for your "passport photo." The only thing I had to do at the store was my fingerprints on the kiosk. It was very convenient especially considering that the store is 45 mins from my house and there was no running back and forth. I got a YHM Nitro .30 with the tax stamp and trust for like $840. I hope to have it October-November as the average lead times for approval was 8-9 months when I got it...but some are up around 13-14 months.
@oldofftime4 жыл бұрын
There's always gonna be a huge difference between suppressed semi and bolt action. That's just expected....
@mattsavage96134 жыл бұрын
Minute of SS Colonel... GOLD!!!
@strikerdelta2 жыл бұрын
Both types of ammo landed 15 of 16 shots within a torso sized target at 25 M, that is damned impressive for what it was designed for.
@ryanhampson67311 ай бұрын
While this is quite there is a video of one being fired with the rubber seals totally intact and all you hear is the click of the spring.
@old_guard24315 жыл бұрын
What? Bloke shoots a bolt action and there is no "Mad Minute"? Standards are slipping. . Seriously - well done. We will also forgive a failure to provide a shootout with the FP-45 Liberator. The vast superiority of the American .45 ACP is wisely conceded. (Now lets see how many take that last comment seriously. . .)
@Incognito-vc9wj2 жыл бұрын
Wurd on the streets is that thing is damn near soundless with a new stack of baffles
@Finglesham3 жыл бұрын
Those chaps in Welwyn did a good job in their shed funded on half a crown a week. They devised a bomb to kill Heydrich too. That may have actually had a sinister touch t it.
@Alex-us2vw5 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen worse groupings with people using modern handguns at the range. But un-supported, only people shooting on bags at my range are people with .22 pistols or hunting rifles.
@triggerhippy28264 жыл бұрын
RIP anyone's ears watching with headphones on while the Top Shot is being fired through the Glock
@briankerr45125 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a modern version of that.
@sark31535 жыл бұрын
B&T makes a "Veterinary" pistol that is basically a modern version
@eamo106 Жыл бұрын
Love this with Mark Felton's latest video . How do you have access and ability to shoot old weapons! Assume you are in the UK? I am in Texas and expect I would have legal ability !
@BlokeontheRange Жыл бұрын
Check your assumptions ;)
@eamo106 Жыл бұрын
@@BlokeontheRange I did, moved to Texas, No idiots with knives stealing here.The youth is controlled. Yes if we have an issue we can shoot someone attacking us, our home, our car. Most of the gun violence is not white on white.
@prinzeugenvansovoyen7324 жыл бұрын
can you please once show us the B&T SPR 300 - it seems like it was inspired by the G150 SSR and looks pretty promising
@jconradh5 жыл бұрын
Why not compare with Glock 42? Wouldn't that be more uniform?
@randomfaca2 жыл бұрын
I can hear the German sentry..."ist das ein Welrod or are you just happy to zee me?"
@robvanbeers98472 жыл бұрын
The second gunner uses more of his right hand for balancing,does that reduce the sound of the welrod?
@ray.shoesmith3 жыл бұрын
The rubber wipes were solid discs and were only good for 10-15 rounds. After that they lost a lot of the silencing ability
@charlesshaft639 Жыл бұрын
It could also be disguised as a bicycle pump with a piece of black tubeing carried by the resistance riding bicycles a normal form of transportation .
@gazza85964 жыл бұрын
It was made in London out side a town called welrod or some thing along they lines
@El__Leche5 жыл бұрын
But is it primer activated?
@TrentAnding5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the accuracy claims are because the wipes decrease the accuracy when they are fresh; since the bullets come in contact with them.
@BlokeontheRange5 жыл бұрын
I doubt it...
@sukul38893 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed it’s quieter than other guns, but still not silent, but I see absolutely no muzzle flash, would it be quieter if the disks inside were maintained?
@BlokeontheRange3 жыл бұрын
It would be quieter if the disks were fresh.
@mattysee242 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing they designed it to not look like a typical trigger? Either way very sneaky, very cool.
@BlokeontheRange2 жыл бұрын
I think it's just designed to be as simple as possible irrespective of how it looks...
@Finglesham2 жыл бұрын
@@BlokeontheRange And cheap as chips. Britain was broke . Do not forget ,please, but we repaid you. Who else did? Let me know.
@greyghost44483 ай бұрын
1:22 Out of curiosity: Where did you find this manual written in German?
@JCdental4 жыл бұрын
Apparently, "unshot" washers make this thing nearly "Hollywood" silent
@snowflakemelter11725 жыл бұрын
You have to factor in that people don't instantly die when shot like in the movies, they will provably scream in pain and shock, until you finish them off with multiple shots.
@cymond5 жыл бұрын
That depends on where to put the bullet, and the Welrod was originally intended at a contact range weapon. Like, literally a "shoot a guy in the face from 10 feet away" kind of weapon. For something even scarier, check out the Welwand. It was basically a signed shot Welrod that was meant to be carried in a coat sleeve, pressed against the target, and fired directly into him.
@MooreLeather5 жыл бұрын
Owned one of the commercial copies in the late 80's Bloody awful design to actually use - trigger had a mind of its own & sometimes the gun would not cock. As the one I had was new, it WAS QUIET to use Nice to see one again though as more of a curio than a useful bit of kit
@Finglesham2 жыл бұрын
You are not fighting the NAZIs for you life. Lucky you. Very interesting all the same Cheers.
@stonegiant45 жыл бұрын
Too bad such a relic is illegal in the USA because "only an assassin needs a suppressor"
@zachbrummett83095 жыл бұрын
I mean you totaly could own one just need a 200$ tax stamp well for now anyway knock on wood