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@lemix693 жыл бұрын
Also, just wanted to mention, you eluded to this machine made in China, you couldn't be more wrong, WEN tools have been making tools in the US since 1951, they are out of Elgin, Illinois.
@Wyman642 Жыл бұрын
Just saw this video because I ordered the 2021 version. Thanks for taking the time to describe the product so thoroughly.
@nickspace62302 жыл бұрын
Just got one too, it is great. I got the combo pack with a 12 inch variable speed along with the drill press table included, it is the best deal out there. Idk why the variable speed function of these newer models is not more heavily advertised, it is fantastic.
@sburgos9621Ай бұрын
Picked one of these up on Prime day for $189 (12 inch model). Just set it up today!
@mattc244 жыл бұрын
My plastic covers were broken too. I contacted them and then sent me new ones within a few days. Great video!
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
Good to know! Thank you!
@lemix693 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've been looking at this for a while, was torn between 4212 10" variable speed and 4214 12" variable speed and 4210 10" 5 speed and for the same reasons you went with the 4214 is the same reason that I like it, first being able to change speed on the fly, without shutting it off and moving the belts and I like the very versatile table and of coarse the 5/8" chuck. You also said that the 4214 was there largest, it is not. It's their largest bench top drill press, but they have two floor models the 4225 variable speed 15" and the 4227 17" 12 speed. Anyway, I enjoyed your unboxing and review, I'll be looking at others as they come up. Thanks! 🖖😎
@BradsWorkbench3 жыл бұрын
The only big issue with a reeves drive is more parts to wear over time and the lack of low end speed (not an issue for any bits the avg joe would use.) That being said its just like any piece of equipment, it all depends on how well it was built. My philosophy has always been if I am going to buy a cheap too, I'm betting on the one with the least amount of moving parts. Loved the video tho. Looks like u have a great channel here
@ILuv2learn Жыл бұрын
I have a 14 HP riding lawn mower with a reeves drive that has been going strong for 30 years. I use it 9 months a year. I have had no problems. I love being able to change speeds on the fly.
@RTSWOODWORKS3 жыл бұрын
Many other models have this feature too, but this seems to be a great value.
@olgringo-4214 ай бұрын
Only negative that I noticed: The construction of the table is such that it is nearly impossible to use regular clamps to hold your work securely due to the ribs and recessed underside. I beat this by cutting 3 pie-like wedge shapes out of a 1x6 and using Gorilla all-purpose glue bonded them to the underneath side. This resulted in two parallel (upper and lower) surfaces and now C or quick adjusting clamps quite easily hold down any work which I wouldn't want to hold by hand.
@MyGrowthRings6 ай бұрын
That variable speed is almost identical to the way the classic Shopsmith Mark V changes speed. How is she holding up?
@flashcraft Жыл бұрын
Love your name, "Trial N' Error". Classic.
@rbhe357 Жыл бұрын
Had mine for a year now. I mostly drill into metal or forstner bits into wood, so my speeds stay low, but I love being able to adjust this with a lever/lcd readout. I recommend upgrading the chuck to a cheap JT33 keyless chuck. About $30 from the usual getting spot. In fact, do it before you install the factory chuck. Took me 20 minutes of foul-mouthed obscenities to get the old one off.
@robc84682 жыл бұрын
CVTs were on mills and some high end drill presses long before they were on cars very handy for sure.
@akbychoice Жыл бұрын
Been on snowmachines and mini bikes for decades.
@christianstclaire57064 ай бұрын
Could be helpful to let us know the minimum drill Diameter this 12" Wen can receive. Also, can the plunger be adjusted to make it tighter, hence no play in it. Thanks, nice unboxing. 👍
@kodak_jack2 жыл бұрын
For those of us who only wanted a simple drill press and bought one with the 5 pulley design, they should make a retrofit kt/ package that does what this gives you.
@paulfisher46603 жыл бұрын
i've been eyeing out either the ryobi or the WEN 4212. the ryobi (i have all their battery tools), it appears to have plastic pullies and lid. given the same price and higher AMPs, i think the WEN WINs
@rnrudynh14274 жыл бұрын
I could hear the surgeon who worked on your back yelling in the background don't lift that out of that box
@heinz-573 жыл бұрын
I have the 4208 model. I replaced the motor with a treadmill motor with speed control. So much better than before.
@kernlkajun1 Жыл бұрын
Although impressed by the 4214’s auto” drive feature, I opted for the 4211 5 SPD 10” due, in part, to the included keyless chuck and the 4211’s size likely being the better fit for my small garage work area (not to mention my ability to move a 50 LB press much easier than a press over 80 LBS). Also, having worked in a machine shop for 20 years (QC) (may not have paid enough attention, lol) didn’t ever recall our operators changing drill press speeds. Wen seems to have a good reputation so I wouldn’t think, at least, in this case, that more “bells and whistles” equals an increased possibility of malfunction.
@aeromedical67766 ай бұрын
The electric variable speed control on the 4214 is worth its weight in gold. No way I’d ever go back to a pulley system to change speeds.
@st170ish4 жыл бұрын
If you wanted to spend probably 10 times that price check out Teknatool Nova Viking DVR... lovely piece of kit!
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I just checked it out. Looks like it has a frequency drive built right into it. That's an amazing piece of tech right there but WAY out of my budget! Thanks for the comment my friend and have a great day!
@ajbrown20133 жыл бұрын
I was going to buy one and I got this for a Christmas present today I hate when people get me tools for Christmas
@markchidester62392 жыл бұрын
My Masterforce brand, from Menards, has that transmission also. That's probably the way they will all be soon. My worry is the belt getting chewed up by the sharp edges in the pullies.
@olheghtt Жыл бұрын
No matter how far apart you spread them it's still going to be the same rpm. The please don't change diameter size, right.
@bretthays2674 Жыл бұрын
Add in keyless chuck and it would be perfect!
@SeamlessFab11 ай бұрын
“It doesn’t seem have bad for a cheap Chuck” It is. I own this drill press.
@aeromedical67766 ай бұрын
I ended up replacing the factory chuck on mine. It had way too much run out. Other than that, I am more than happy with the performance.
@AdaptingCamera3 ай бұрын
I know this video is 3 years old, but come on... WEN was not the only one with that "revolutionary" variable drive, not even 3 years ago. There were plenty other brands as well which used that system.
@Trialnerror3 ай бұрын
Please don't forget, I'm an idiot. Never saw one like this before....but again, I don't claim to be anything more than a monkey with thumbs.
@Progmium Жыл бұрын
Video was on auto-play. I thought you were talking about boat engines! Then come back to a drill press video! lol!
@fletchmoose Жыл бұрын
the broken allen wrench was so you could stick it in a drill and screw the screws in quick and easy
@BOOTYINTRUDR8 ай бұрын
Just got this and my LCD readout screen has never worked. Any suggestions?
@dencope53324 жыл бұрын
Would like to see how it handles a half inch drill through some mild steel. As in if it stalls alot, or maybe a hole saw to really test it.
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
You're 100% right, I should have done that as part of the video. I can tell you that it will stall at higher speeds (2,500+rpm) but below that it seems to have plenty of grunt. Since steel is usually drilled around 1k rpm it's been great so far.
@SeamlessFab Жыл бұрын
I just drilled some cold rolled steel today 1/2”. It works well just have to take your time. There’s also a conversion kit for an annular cutter which I will be buying next..
@jeremypetro10843 жыл бұрын
I just put mine together about an hour ago. Im glad i purchased it.
@Trialnerror3 жыл бұрын
Congrats! I still love mine, it's been a great addition to the shop.
@michaelbaykara23222 жыл бұрын
Very good review and humorous too lol, i'll buy from your link- thanks.
@Trialnerror2 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate that Michael! Hope you enjoy it, I still love it. The quick speed change is just killer.
@samreames171310 ай бұрын
Where is the laser alignment?
@michaelyork9975 Жыл бұрын
I just got the 10” variable. It made that same growling noise. Ran it a few times and quieted down. How do you get the chuck off the spindle? Don’t see that slot in the spindle to drive the wedge in.
@davidnguyen7693 Жыл бұрын
What are the two slots used for on the base of the drill press? For clamping your parts?
@atomicdmt8763 Жыл бұрын
just ordered MINE!
@NRiggiKnives4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for my delivery of the drill press as we speak
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
NICE! Good choice man. For the money it's a sore dick deal; you can't beat it.
@gb80144 жыл бұрын
Why do you think no one else uses this system if it's good, simple and cheap? There needs to be a catch. Thank you.
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
I think it's just new to the market. I really cannot think of a single downside to a CVT in this application but I suppose I'll find out soon if there is one lol. Thanks for watching!
@BradsWorkbench3 жыл бұрын
Its been around for decades. Its called a reeves drive. Plenty of old drill presses and lathes use the same system
@dfinma8 ай бұрын
8:55 The instructions say to tap the chuck only once. Don't worry, everyone gets this wrong 😄
@rogertyler32374 ай бұрын
Ho Much Did That Cost?
@olheghtt Жыл бұрын
I have yet to see a video where somebody gives an explanation of how this variable speed pulley system works that I understand... I just don't get it, I can't wrap my mind around it.
@fabianortease14403 жыл бұрын
one good hit is all you need,not 4-5 to mount the chuck
@wulf67 Жыл бұрын
All it took was one left hook for Mike Tyson to knock out Trevor Berbick, but it took him a couple rounds to get warmed up first.
@paulfisher46603 жыл бұрын
if you have a drill press vise like i think a cross slide ? can you then use a WEN as a router or sorts ? i would imagine it would work on plastics and wood, but maybe not metal, a true router would be needed for metals ?
@Trialnerror3 жыл бұрын
Yea, they do make small little router tables. I looked into them a while back and they seem to work well for what they are.
@michaeljulius58954 жыл бұрын
Is all of the rattling ok as u change speeds?
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
Yea, thats some belt chatter. It sounds bad but is perfectly normal.
@steverobertson44253 жыл бұрын
The roller on the extension rattles. I threw it away.
@vp28802 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video. Very informative for a DIYer like me. It's been a year now. How is that drill press holding up?
@Trialnerror2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Yes it's holding up well and I've been really working it hard building the steel chassis for my race car. It's cut all the notches in the 2" bar with no problems.
@vp28802 жыл бұрын
@@Trialnerror Great news! I ordered the 10" model yesterday. Good luck with the race car.
@glenschumannGlensWorkshop3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@glenpaul36063 жыл бұрын
Noisy thing ..geesh..what is rattling so much?.
@JayJay-sr5gn3 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought, sounds horrible.
@randyb25053 жыл бұрын
Love mine!
@dannpurvis Жыл бұрын
I have one just have one problem with it and it’s bad. It wobbles. I think you call that runout. It’s bad enough that it shake the table. I was doing a search for possible solutions for this drill and how I found your video. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can fix that?
@aeromedical67766 ай бұрын
I had the same issue and just replaced the chuck. That solved it immediately
@dannpurvis6 ай бұрын
I did the same awhile back and it worked. Thanks
@neilborkowicz3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. How has the CVT speed system held up so far?
@Trialnerror3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. It's actually quieted down a bit and has performed very well. I really like the drill in general, that CVT make a big difference when cutting metal for sure.
@anthonymarino42603 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing
@douglingle1600 Жыл бұрын
Nothing new my 1956 shopsmith has variable speed basically works the same
@bluegill20303 жыл бұрын
I just got this exact drill press today. When you turn it on it has the “clicking” noises and various by speed, gets louder and softer...... is that normal?? Seems like it is not spose to be like that?? Edit: I notice your drill press did it also. There is a small square piece on the side just above the speed adjustment handle, I literally touched it and it quit clicking, now it’s nice and quiet!!!
@Trialnerror3 жыл бұрын
It's normal and will get quieter with use. Just run it!
@tomm25192 жыл бұрын
Chattering is not supposed to be normal; I bought mine 4 1/2 years ago and it was smooth and fairly quiet from the very first.
@popsthemachine2473 жыл бұрын
I just purchased this and my cvt adjustment handle is really stiff any suggestions on how to make it easier to move ?
@kenny008692 жыл бұрын
I know a bit of a late reply, but I just bought this model, and mine was also really tight to adjust. You can remove the rubber cover over the handle nut, and very slightly loosen it. Works like a champ.
@ajbrown20133 жыл бұрын
What is all the noise from?
@Trialnerror3 жыл бұрын
It's the nature of a CVT style transmission. They tend to make more noise in general.
@nukestrom57193 жыл бұрын
How about longevity of this variable speed system? If electronics go bad then this might be junk.
@Trialnerror3 жыл бұрын
What electronics? There are literally zero electronics involved in the variable speed. It's a simple mechanical system.
@petrucioci073 жыл бұрын
Im sure he find out about scratching the countertop afterwards.
@dylanharris87073 жыл бұрын
Do these have forward and reverse for tapping?
@Trialnerror3 жыл бұрын
No unfortunately
@timgile8144 Жыл бұрын
what's your impression of this drill press after 2 yrs?
@Trialnerror Жыл бұрын
Really do like it. It's not top quality but for the money, I'd buy it again no question.
@adeptheatingair3 жыл бұрын
I just bought one from home depot, they wont sell it in the store cause they wanna make money on the garbage they sell in the store. I hope I'm not dissapointed.
@15NOV20104 жыл бұрын
I got a hand me down drill press, ive used it a few times. However whats run out?
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
Basically, run out is wobble in the chuck. No run out would be a chuck that holds the bit dead center. Some run out is expected with less expensive drills so I was surprised when basically none was present on this one.
@15NOV20104 жыл бұрын
@@Trialnerror its a nice looking unit, makes me want to run and check my run out haha
@JayJay-sr5gn3 жыл бұрын
why does it sound so scratchy when you turn it on?? 9:40
@Trialnerror3 жыл бұрын
Nature of the HST. Some are louder than others (mine is on the louder side) but it's nothing to worry about.
@regibson232 жыл бұрын
Several other manufacturers have infinitely variable speed.
@kftc19802 жыл бұрын
Which ones? Are they around the same price point?
@EwokyBalboa4 жыл бұрын
looks practically identical to my jet 12in. Know of any way to mod that pulley system to get an even lower low speed?
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
I think it is the exact same unit as the Jet. Because both pulleys need to move I think slowing it down would be cost prohibitive. Just no real easy way to do it short of using a VFD to adjust the motor speed itself.
@tmeyer2022 Жыл бұрын
If at first, you don't succeed, READ THE DIRECTIONS !
@davidball84 жыл бұрын
Cool drill press. My dad always got mad at me for ruining his bits. “Why didn’t you change the belts around? Well you never showed me. “
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
My Dad always got mad at me for loosing his bits....now I understand. I would have killed me too LOL.
@kendallbrock92753 жыл бұрын
Sounds like it’s going to fall apart
@rickrogers95113 жыл бұрын
My lady likes 14" . ( Drill press ) LOL
@Trialnerror3 жыл бұрын
Daaaaaaaaaamn
@deplorabledave1048 Жыл бұрын
What REALLY annoying Muzak do you want to hear in MY videos? Don't ask. The answer is NO MUZAK! Ever. Here, let me show you how quiet (or loud) this suppressor is while I blare some heavy metal. Face Palm. You laugh. Dont. Waaay too many channels do this. There is no better way to show off your new car performance exhaust tone than when downed out by obnoxious hip hop. Yes, its true. Too often.
@DaveSomething4 жыл бұрын
ooh a drill!
@DaveSomething4 жыл бұрын
it's a cool drill though!
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
LOL, I thought so. Thanks Dave!
@karlh67003 жыл бұрын
The background noise er, music, sucks.
@0re02bruh4 жыл бұрын
Don't pick on my kids paint job 😂 jk 😜
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
Better get them some arts and crafts classes LOL.
@Tome4kkkk5 ай бұрын
Wow, that's noisy!
@felixf52114 жыл бұрын
It was nice to see the arbor and the taper in the chuck cleaned with a solvent. You're in the minority on KZbin.
@Trialnerror4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Felix, I appreciate you watching and the kind words man. Have a great day buddy.
@davidneuzil9356 Жыл бұрын
seems pretty noisy
@Trialnerror Жыл бұрын
Yea, power tools generally are unwelcome in library's