Were CAN-AM Monsters Cars Faster Than F1 Cars? | Racing MythBusters

[@a7624F1]

The most underrated series of all time. Mainly because it wasn't a world championship.

[@alainaverio9245]

Like indycar

[@reallyluckyoaklawn8306]

The FIA regarded it as an international series, starting in 1971. All its champions were F1 drivers. Surtees McLaren, Hulme, Revson, Follmer, Donohue and Oliver.

[@15DEAN1995]

the f1 car was closer than i expected. if i was guessing the f1 car would be faster somewhere like suzuka but monza would be all about the can am car

[@stryker1797]

Suzuka still has a good bunch of very fast parts. Maybe the F1 car would gain advantage in the S section but that'd be it. Laguna Seca would be another story I think. Many med/low speed corners where aero would make the difference

[@maza19]

To be fair back in 1972 a few tracks were slow and technical. Most circuits were fast with few corners. In Monaco F1 would be faster, maybe Nurburgring with all these corners but the rest would be an advantage for Can Am. Well, for Porsche at least. It was much faster than the rest of the field so I don't know if the average Can Am car would beat an F1 car

[@Hyvelez]

Such an underrated series! Love to see more of them.

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

Oh you definitely will

[@skywanderer]

And now I want a new restriction-less category even if it's likely that one team will dominate.

[@smollerss5229]

Just add a budget cap, mandatory saftey equipment and i see no reason not to

[@che3601]

​@@smollerss5229 yea but do budget caps even work, can't teams just lie?

[@ForzaPolska06]

Too fast for drivers to cope Imagine F1 cars with like 1500 HP, active suspension, all super advanced driver aids, 100kg lighter and full not restricted groumd effect with a fan + not restricted aero and all that It would be 15s faster (or more) than modern F1

[@smollerss5229]

@@che3601 eh true that happens a ton but im sure somehow theres a way to control it

[@smollerss5229]

@@ForzaPolska06 very true.. usually id say use faster tracks like monza or daytona but here i dont know if itll even work

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

Name of the song used in the intro: 1973😎

[@epicmotorsport856]

Those details 😎

[@purwantiallan5089]

This is the most underrated championship ever. But i kinda appreciate the F1 car for keeping up with that CAN-AM.

[@kpcart]

Well you kinda a have to appreciate it as it cost probably 10 times the amount of money to produce and they called it self F1 and was sold to the public as the number one fastest and most prestigous series. You really should appreciate vintage can Am more than vintage F1 since it was faster quite often. Look up ferrari 712 can Am, a car faster than their F1 car in same era.

[@mewtwo.150]

Wish they would allow today a free limit race, a car without any kind of regulations Something like the RedBull X1 (X2010)

[@miguelpereira9859]

No human being will be able to withstand the G Forces that they will be exposed to

[@reallyluckyoaklawn8306]

Watkins Glen USGP F1 vs Can Am comparison. 1969 USGP F1 Rindt Lotus 49 Ford 1.03.62; Can Am McLaren M8B 1.02.21. 1970 USGP F1 Ickx Ferrari 312 1.03.07; Can Am Hulme M8D 1.02.76. 1971 Different layouts. 1972 USGP F1 Stewart Tyrrell Ford 005 1:40.481; Can Am Revson M20 1.39.187. 1973 USGP F1 Peterson Lotus 72 -Ford 1:39.657; Can Am Donohue 917/30 TC 1.38.848. 1974 USGP F1 Reuteman Brabham Ford 1.38.978; Can Am Follmer Shadow DN4-Chevy 1.39.969. Can Am series ended after 1974 Road America race, which I missed as a 👦. But blessed to see 1969-1973 Road America Can Am races! 😄

[@reallyluckyoaklawn8306]

Yes, sometimes. Can Am cars were faster, depending upon the track and year. Compare the lap times, when they raced at Mosport (Canadian GP) and Watkins Glen ( US GP) in the same year with the same layout. This is a historical fact. 1967 Mosport CA GP Clark Lotus 49 1.22.4; Can Am Hulme M6A 1.20.8. 1969 Mosport CA GP F1 Ickx Brabham-Ford 1.17.4; Can Am McLaren M8B 1.18.2. 1970 Mosport Can Am Gurney M8D 1.16.8. 1971 Mosport CA GP F1 Stewart Tyrrell-Ford 1.15.3; Can Am Stewart Lola T-260 1.17.3 (Jackie won his 2nd F1 World Championship, while doing a full season of the Can Am, winning 2 races and finishing 3rd in points. I miss multi series F1 drivers!). 1972 Mosport CA GP F1 Revson McLaren M19-Ford 1.13.3; Can Am Donohue Porsche 917/10 TC 1.14.2. 1973 Mosport CA GP F1 Peterson Lotus 72 Ford 1.13.69; Can Am Donohue 917/30 TC 1.14.1. At twisty Mont Tremblant, F1 was definitely faster. 1970 Mont Tremblant CA GP F1 Stewart Tyrrell-001 1.31.5; Can Am Gurnery M8D 1.33. Only talking the original Can Am. Not the wonderful 5.0L Can Am which had better racing, than the original. I will do the USGP later. 🙂

[@cyboticzombie]

Wonder how it would compare to the later 70’s ground effect f1 cars?

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

Those would be quite faster. Ground effect, better tyres and more power made a massive difference.

[@jstoli996c4s]

Wow, I didn’t even know this layout of the Glen existed 😮

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

It only had one layout until 1992. It looks so different right?

[@jstoli996c4s]

@@THEWINDTUNNEL yeah I got confused in the latter part of the lap, I was like, what is this?? Then I Wiki’d it and saw this was the track layout from 1956-1970 I believe 😅

[@purwantiallan5089]

@@THEWINDTUNNEL 1992? I wish FIA used this Watkins Glen in real life back possibly in 2025.

[@georgipopov07]

Hello. You made a cool video. But olease, can you test the can am car versus the F12004, MP4/4 or RB18? I will be glad to see them against this monster.

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

Mmm maybe... It could give a modern F1 car a good run for his money at a very fast track

[@Nichaansama]

Yeah...the merc w11 would be a good match

[@maza19]

It won't be close. If the Lotus is only a second behind the MP4/4 will be almost 10 seconds faster. Ferrari and RB even more

[@stuntslikeeveryday]

There was a time were F1 wasn't that much faster than other classes, think I mentioned this, but wrote by accident Trans Am 🤦

[@antonsamuelsson1317]

In the 80s group B cars the Lancia S4 could keep up with a f1 car around imola

[@stuntslikeeveryday]

@@antonsamuelsson1317 No, the Lancia was close in the dry compared to F1 in the wet. This channel also tried it, I even know someone who actually has that Delta. It doesn't come close to F1 on a racetrack.

[@antonsamuelsson1317]

@@stuntslikeeveryday ok sorry my mistake

[@Starfire_Storm]

I'm pretty sure that the Group B cars in the late 80's weren't that much slower than the F1 cars of the time. Even in the 90's, while CART cars were certainly slower than F1 cars, they weren't differences of night and day like you see nowadays when comparing F1 cars against anything else.

[@GuilhermeSilva-li8nv]

Compare in another track, that one like hungaroring or SPA at Belgium

[@fayyadguissida]

If it's the old spa, 917/30 will win easily, but the rest idk.

[@patricktaylor4997]

Would like to see the comparison for Mt. Tremblant. Both F1 and Can-Am raced there. Very hilly, windy circuit. Sometimes referred to as the 'mini Nurburgring.'

[@JReaLBiz86]

I think over a full fuel or tire stint, the F1 car would end up edging out the Can-Am. Eventually the downforce numbers for the F1 would preserve the tires well enough that it keeps more pace than the Can-Am. Power : Weight ratio doesn't matter when that power is upwards of 1200hp compared to 500hp, but there's only a 250kg difference between them lol And the Can-Am doesn't lack much in aero. But the higher center of gravity, as well as having to tiptoe all that power around, means the lighter, lower, higher-downforce formula car will end up with the edge in a full race. More forward bite for longer, and higher cornering speeds. The course could also make a difference. For instance, if they were at Monza, forget everything I just said, the Can-Am wins lol At least, that's my opinion.

[@lionemessi]

Always thought old f1 cars were slow but it turns out they were just more dangerous

[@kanizmajorys2572]

Make a video with the indycar at the same time as these too, or another races, just to compare

[@craigwallace3178]

What are all the mods you have in the beginning? The rest of the can am cars?

[@albertpratclaramunt]

actual F1 vs actual LMDH or LMH?

[@Lancaster-77]

Can you make a formula 5000 car vs formula 1 car?

[@notorioushkm97]

What track is this?

[@continentalrcinglg]

1956-1970 Watkins Glen layout.

[@gabrieleb5408]

Some say the in "qualifying setting" the porsche actually had almost 1500hp

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

That's for another video😏

[@magnussencube]

The Can-Am would've been so much faster at Spa it wouldn't even be funny

[@PeterKKraus]

Yes, they were. Especially that 917

[@ghifari5381]

game name?

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

Assetto Corsa

[@skojuzija]

Wow that is crazy fast car for 1973

[@randomCADstuff]

This must be GPL?

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

Assetto Corsa!

[@gabrieleb5408]

Put it against 80s f1 cars

[@kudryavchik]

Can-Am and F1 were both racing at watkins glen. F1 could pass Can-Am (917/30) only by 1976-77

[@bigCobaltguy]

F1 stans are crying rn

[@ninjafrozr8809]

That's cool and all but... where are the corners ? Put them both in Silverstone and watch the F1 car disappear.

[@hydrasin]

If it is the 70's Silverstone the the Can Am car will just demolish the F1 car with all the straights

[@THEWINDTUNNEL]

That's right. Tracks in the 60s-70s were faster. Silverstone, Zandvoort, Spa, Watkins Glen, Imola, Monza, Monaco... all were WAY faster