Were gays accepted in the old mafia cosa nostra life?

[@WEEZYFANx2136]

“Excuse me I didn’t catch that” he 100% caught that 😭😭 he was so shocked

[@syeedrahman8999]

Ton hardy plays the krays twin. They are real and where psychopaths and one of the krays was gay and it was well known it’s just that no day had the balls to do anything about it

[@caroljulien2995]

Vito was gay and they kill him

[@padmac8176]

That clip was real. Ronnie Kray was gay, but because of his name he could afford to be open about his sexuality back in the day. He along with his brother were the most feared gangsters in London in the 60s.

[@sharonlink3109]

😊😊 tubby but try tb

[@ryanwhitehead34]

Whenever someone says something like that they really giving you a second chance 😂

[@rc123theycallme]

“Excuse me? I didn’t catch that.”

[@startedskating86]

Catching or pitching

[@imperiumgrim4717]

LOL catching

[@michaelscottland4239]

He’s not gonna know I told you?

[@alexthebigmac4497]

I can actually imagine that being a pretty accurate response.

[@Imyourchuckleberry]

Lol you’re not gonna have any problem, believe me

[@WilliamEdmondson258]

I grew up in the 50's and 60's. Being Queer was not part of the program. There have always been Gays but they were not accepted in American society.

[@next4506]

Yep. Pretty cool how that’s changed though.

[@next4506]

@@undeafeatable36 Yeah it is. Freedom. ‘Murica. Based.

[@JayJenkins-ps4jg]

Gays were not accepted any society

[@RobertDonnyJr-c4e]

Wasn’t queer a slur until recently? Like fag 🚬

[@maorkob6547]

Even in the 90's it was not acceptable. And there's videos that shows biden use to say marriage it's between man and a woman and states must respect that".

[@thesoultwins72]

I used to DJ at a lot of clubs in the 80s and 90s. Usually, the biggest problem when you open a new club is getting it established - it can take a while to start attracting a crowd. One club I worked at was really struggling - it had all the right ingredients [great music....obviously! Lol], amazing light system and dancefloor and nice decor. But we only got a handful of people. One night, the owner came over and said he was turning the place into a 'Gay club' and told me the kind of music he wanted me to play - which I wasn't really happy about. But he was actually a pretty decent guy and asked me to try it for a few weeks and if I didn't enjoy it - he would understand if I wanted to leave. So I gave it a try and after only a few nights - the place was packed! Although I didn't really mind the crowd, I really didn't enjoy the music - and to me, that means a lot. So I left. But I can totally understand why the mob operated a lot of Gay clubs.....they were a guaranteed money-maker back then!

[@sweettina2]

Yep, you can sell your soul for a buck and win...for a while.

[@rumbledumpthumpershaker6735]

​@@sweettina2The arab goat herder cults are murderous and oppressive. They are the real problem not gays.

[@7Lace77]

​@@sweettina2 How is it selling ur soul? Entertaining people. 😸

[@RickBerg-b9k]

The owner must have done a lot of advertising in the free gay papers usually found in the lobbies of most if the gay night clubs, it takes awhile to build any clientele, gay or straight. The music in gay clubs, it just disco. Disco never really died, it just went back underground in clubs where it started.

[@thesoultwins72]

@@RickBerg-b9k ..... I think the success of the club was due to a combination of several things - 'right time, right place' and definitely because there were very few gay clubs back then. [the club owner had asked me what I thought of the idea, several times BEFORE he told me he wanted to make it a Gay club]. So, I genuinely believe he had been asked by a number of 'customers' and realised there was a definite demand for it. I agree, that 'building' any club isn't easy - but it's easier if you know that there is a market for a specific kind of club - and nobody was satisfying that need. However, I have to disagree about the music. Blanketing every 140bpm record as 'disco' is a little simplistic. [even within specific 'genres' of music there are many variations]. Just take Jazz for example - there's classical and 'trad' jazz, acid-jazz, jazz-fusion, jazz-funk, be-bop etc etc. So, it was with 'disco'. The club owner wanted me to play your typical 'gay' records [I must have played 'It's raining men', 'Relax' and 'I will survive' a thousand times!] But I also needed to play a LOT of 'show tunes' [eg: 'I'm going wash that man right outta my hair', 'Get happy' and 'Can't help lovin' Dat man of mine'.

[@jerrypickles-qr9yv]

Ronnie Kray was of the English Mob out of London and was known to flaunting relationships with men. The Krays weren't members of the Italian mob.

[@bollox679]

The Krays were there own mob they weren't in a mob.

[@Nathan-vh1rn]

there's no such thing as a 'mob' anywhere outside of USA, Krays were gangsters, but it was more than just them who were active in London at that time, the krays were NOTHING like the mob.

[@wyomingptt]

Their own Ass mob if you will.

[@What_a_mad-world]

Is that a real mob family... (The Krays?)

[@itsacarolbthing5221]

​@ExposeEvil_FleefromIt77 yes.

[@denyasaltz1994]

"SORRY, I DIDN'T CATCH THAT". GREAT LINE FROM CHAZ P.😂.

[@nathanaelito]

Because I'm the pitcher not the catcher type of guy, If you know what I'm saying 😅 Hey, sono topolino 😅

[@crikker9447]

And the look on Chaz’ face when he repeated it

[@McCallahanIndustries]

HE WAS A TOP EARNER. Vito brought in 10 times as him.

[@Watamelon-yx1mj]

I can just hear tony's voice while reading this 😂

[@manchesterguy7961]

Maybe carlo should start taking it up the arse!!

[@garethtaylor1470]

“I don’t know if I’d even have the new boat if it wasn’t for Vito!”😮

[@Wsadef]

you know, Quazimodo predicted this?

[@What_a_mad-world]

​@@Wsadefpredicted what?

[@eddiejamison]

One of the Krays was very much gay and was no afraid to tell people.But he was so ruthless in London back then it would have taken a brave man to call him out on it.

[@lincolnpinkoln359]

Both the krays were gay..reggie was bisexual..Those very close to them knew.

[@DylanAFSCMEFlintMI]

I was just about to comment that that's what I heard

[@sheikhtahmid7799]

Both twins were also having sexual relations with one another. Both the Twins, instead of just one, were in a mental institution for a reason.

[@eknoke01]

That happens a lot with twins for some reason girls as well often.

[@Kyle-l8p]

The krays weren't even the hardest gangsters in London, if they hadn't gone to prison they'd most likely have been killed and good riddance

[@StevieinSF]

Mike's response was on point about gays back in the day. Gay life was kept underground, needed to keep a job, not get beaten up either. Two friends of mine said they were gay when they showed up at the Army induction center during the Vietnam War, I found their stories fascinating from a historical context, they made it out without getting hassled.

[@Indiofoo760]

William Friedkin the director of the movie Cruising with Al Pacino (& also the exorcist and the French connection) said that cruising was filmed in a bar owned by a mafia boss that he was friends with, & also all the gays from the stonewall riot did the riot partially because they were so fed up with the treatment they got not just from the police but also the mafia criminals who had a monopoly on all the gay bars in New York City, which just goes to show how entrenched the mafia was in that world & controlling the gay bars & clubs

[@spinrash6000]

This man said there was no gays in his time but the own gay bars.

[@Mutterschwein]

​@@spinrash6000 He means no out and open gay mafioso, not the general population lol

[@Stumme-40203]

@@spinrash6000That’s not what he said. “In my former life, mafia, La Cosa Nostra, there were no gays.”

[@anti-h1s]

The stonewall riots were because the police targeted gay bars for *rugs and underaged *rostitution. Because these is the main things for gays, they freaked out.

[@michaelm4464]

I mean....look what happened to Vito in The Sopranos when they found out he was traveling south of the border. And yes, I know it's a show, but it's a show that many (even mafia members themselves) have said is one of the most accurate portrayals of the lifestyle.

[@CNR666]

It happened in real life though aswell. John D'Amato of the DeCavalcante family (New Jersey) was murdered by his own crew when they found out he was gay.

[@elmago9547]

He gotta go!!

[@KhanSaab-pi6sw]

Down Mexico way!

[@Josip-sd2iq]

"how much more betrayal can I take ,😑?". 😂

[@jamescrumpler8384]

​@@Josip-sd2iqOl Pauly just had too many betrayals

[@samad4079]

A new Jersey boss was killed for being gay

[@eb2354]

What was his name?

[@samad4079]

@@eb2354 John D'Amato

[@39Hundred]

He was the inspiration for Vito on The Sopranos.

[@EnemyAC130_Above]

@@eb2354Vito spatafore

[@xavierjames8085]

He wasn’t actually gay , there wasn’t any proof of that. Him n his girl had a huge argument n I believe he also broke things off wit her. But she was also friends with another made guy n she ran to the guy n said this, that they went to swinger party’s n he wasn’t “jus going for the women but he was going down on men” her words. but there was no actual proof. N we all know women make up a lot of stuff when pissed. I think it was more of a power play for someone to wanna take the top spot cus nobody looked into it they just went with it n killed him

[@Skalgrim]

I think the point of the scene as seen by chazz’s acting was the mobsters not really liking it but being forced to be diplomatic for the sake of the potentially lucrative deal. I’m pretty sure there’s a part when the mobsters are trying to off the gay one where the fact he is gay is brought up as one of many issues.

[@danbardos3498]

It's a bit on the nose though. Totally unbelievable.

[@conversationstranglersteve9873]

​@@danbardos3498What part of it is unbelievable?

[@jamesstewart8377]

He would never have told Angelo Bruno he was homosexual. That’s what’s unbelievable. The guy was like a grandfather.

[@DylanAFSCMEFlintMI]

Pretty sure that twin was off the hinges and was openly gay I think and one was bisexual but the point is that (I'm forgetting the English twins gangster's names) the twin in this scene is supposed to be showing he's completely effing nuts which supposedly in real life he was.

[@mcvicarross7]

​@@crazyboysince1998m8 I'm British myself but when it comes to the Kray twins believe me it's the yanks laughing at us & rightly so, what they were into was perverse & completely abhorrent!

[@henrivillegas8050]

I come from a Sinaloa background. My dad was made in the Sinaloa organization. Back then it was still the Guadalajara cartel. He was murdered when i was 5 we were left with almost nothing. But there is gay kingpins in the Sinaloa Organization. I met some myself. I met some bosses i can't name because of my safety since i was a kid. Nobody ever let me follow my dad foots steps. Because im my dads only biological kid

[@cemoihonay]

Does somebody have to murder to be made?

[@FUtube-h2y]

I love it

[@What_a_mad-world]

What's a Sinaloa? Sounds Hawaiian.

[@AboveAverageGamer1]

​@@What_a_mad-world I'm certain Sinaloa is inner country side region of Mexico

[@seansilver8757]

Just read about a hit they made in South Africa 😭

[@noonecaresworkharder9125]

“Unfortunately back then, some mob guys ran gay bars” 💀

[@do.notdisturb]

He’s a born-again Christian.

[@suspicioususer]

Why skull emoji? Most business owners were prejudice and the mob saw a market

[@AntonioMontana_7.5]

“Should’ve turned him off” 😂 Lmao Michael is based

[@Blackspeaks]

@@AntonioMontana_7.5 Michael didn't say anything wrong

[@alexandremuise8889]

The whole point of making money for an Italian man was to provide for wife and kids. Can't have wife and kids if you're LGBTQ.

[@Jaydaydesign]

Spend 40 years married to a Sicilian man. Had 2 kids. Always thought I was the problem in the bedroom. but there were signs. The boyfriends came out of the woodwork after the funeral….. Lived someone else’s tragic narcissistic lie for 40 years as an unwitting beard and dutiful wife. It was very common in my generation.

[@obabas80]

Damnnnn, that’s hardcore messed up. Hope you’re healing from that…

[@MrMenace3210]

But - key thing is he wasn't a mobster. They never said no Sicilians were gay...

[@Jaydaydesign]

@@MrMenace3210 I never said he wasn’t. His family name was well respected,

[@MrMenace3210]

@@Jaydaydesign Fair, I hear you

[@chazzx1018]

​@@MrMenace3210anybody that earned got a pass. These mob guys are just fools.

[@Tony-w5x]

A nice Italian girl… now that sounds real nice to me!

[@pierrekiroule2827]

Me too.. and i'm half Italian!

[@silverhills5684]

If she's a nice girl, she wouldn't do what you have in mind. What you want is a bad girl.

[@qiqi2692]

Not for gays it doesn’t 😊

[@davemartino5997]

@@qiqi2692duh lol

[@Jamesxavier-v4x]

You’ve never spent time with one 😂

[@ninasantos4834]

Appreciate ur honesty!!!!❤

[@rickypilcher3618]

The Stonewall Inn was a gay bar owned by the Mafia.

[@leonerose1715]

My Mom worked for a big shot criminal attorney in the late 60's and 70's. Camping with gay guys, eating dinner at home with a high class lady of the evening or burglar. My folks felt like you couldn't tell a book by it's cover? From early age I learned a lot about acceptance and ignorance. 😢❤

[@julieann4245]

You were brought to Learn about wisdom and wisecracks

[@leonerose1715]

@julieann4245 Amen. It was quite the upbringing. My Mom office assistant, climbed up to our second story house, knocked on window. My sister opened up and he told he'd just killed his roommate. I was over seas, so second hand, they went down stairs woke up my Mom. She called the attorney (lived 20 miles away) they sat around with Jimmy, waiting for Irv to show up. He took the young man back to the apartment and wait for police to arrive. Yep, it was always interesting. 😵‍💫

[@det6912]

Hilarious scene. Chaz had me LOL 😂

[@lukehoppe9445]

Reminds me of the story Michael was telling about the time he seen a couple pairs of shoes in the bathroom stall thinking some gay stuff was going on but they were doing coke instead 😂 pretty sure one of those guys was Henry Hill

[@ard-core-vibes]

What 😂

[@samthunders3611]

This scene never gets old lol I wonder how many times they tried filming it without laughing breakin%#own .the bloopers must be great

[@ECNIV2000]

Yo Michael, this is a tough one to call. I’m not in the life, but grew up around folks who were in the Phila area, and during my rock band days, I used to purchase substances for a guy who’s Dad worked for Angelo Bruno. And apparently, the stories about him being the “Gentle Don” are true, mostly from the business sense that violence was used only if absolutely necessary, therefore I could see Mr Bruno being able to see past something like sexual preferences, especially if he was working with a hard Cockney bastard who could very well handle himself, and held basically same street values? I could see Mr Bruno being able to work with them, cos Reg, the other twin, was as straight as the day is long, and just as hard. Thanks Michael.

When he says ‘boys…italians actually’ you can see Michael get visibly shook.

[@kamabokogonpachiro6099]

He could probably get a note from his doctor

[@blackbeard3674]

I damn near spat out my drink when I read this 😂😂

[@MrGhostman248]

The meds, they F’d with his head. But he’s over that now!

[@daviddigregorio5840]

What it’s a joke! I was here…

[@Thurmanatr16]

Say hi to your wife!

[@Neeko_Z]

ha. Yea. In todays world for sure. For work, at at many hospitals all over the state, ALL of them have the flags plastered all over the place, they are in on it.

[@joshpointoh]

An Italian man would never offer up "a nice Italian girl" for someone to use as a plaything. That always caught me by surprise more than the 'I like boys' part

[@TaCC2]

That's because the writers are usually jooish.

[@joecool9739]

Youve never met an Italian pimp in Calabria then

[@PLayAshEFF72]

They’d offer up anything for money and power

[@Silverken]

You speak as if every italian man has the same values… god are you ignorant 🤦

[@Arzoden]

Nah i would offer him two or three italian girls

[@robertsine8812]

Uncle Mike! ❤ Merry Christmas 🎄

[@neilrogers6767]

The Mafia guy would have had no choice about accepting the situation coz he was a guest in London of the Krays. It's been depicted more than once on film.

[@KyleKing-vx4by]

OMG!! I would NEVER reveal that to a Mafia Boss!! 😳😵‍💫🔥

[@RickBerg-b9k]

It’s very fake. And most gay guys wouldn’t say they like “boys” They like men

[@nicky2011]

😂😂

[@LOTW1]

There is a scenene in the Sopranos when the crew is discussing Vito. I think Tony says "we all know he wouldn't be the first one". I know, the Sopranos was just show. But A lot of stuff in the Sopranos was based on real guys and real scenarios. To the point that there's wire taps of wise guys discussing the Sopranos asking "How do they know this? Is this us?". So, I think there's a possibility that some mob guy out there could have been a closet gay.

[@danbardos3498]

Of course there was. That's not his point. It's like Iran saying, "We have no gays here." (Which did happen btw). The scene is unrealistic because man saying they prefer boys to anyone back then, much less the same race of the person you are talking to would be incredibly insulting. Especially back then. If he had said I prefer Irish boys to the IRA or Japanese boys to the Yakuza or whatever the scenario... that means war. You're dead. It's WAY too blaintant. Even today, diddling kids is kept on the downlow. Just ask anyone is Hollywood.

[@austinvanderveer213]

He wasn't talking about kids, he was just saying he was gay

[@Kwekwe]

True, and Michael himself says in another video he suspects Tony Soprano's mom was based on his own mother, the similarity is uncanny and Michael's home was wiretapped for years

[@johnv6806]

​@@Kwekwewhat? Tony's mom was based on the creator of the shows mom

[@Kwekwe]

@@johnv6806 I'm just repeating what Michael himself said when he reviewed The Sopranos

[@fives.]

From what I've researched about the Kreys, this is a *slight* exaggeration of real life events - Angelo Bruno wasn't necessarily confused by Reggie Krey's sexual proclivities so much as his own formalities being interrupted by Reggie's inability to read the room, which wasn't actually a disrespect as it would've been for others

[@chuckspoke]

There was a open gay Colombian mobster. He was one of the captains for brothers who were at war with Pablo when he died. It was in the movie and he was real character.

[@djbuck4948]

Johnny Rizzo, a soldier under toddo in the Gambino family actually owned a gaybar in Brooklyn. There was also an acting boss in Elizabeth, New Jersey of theDecalvacante family that got clipped because one of his girlfriends started rumor that he was bisexual. His name was John D’amato. They never found his body.

[@pjelias_]

Palminteri was great in that scene, made the movie more upscale!

[@Followyourbliss-2]

What movie was this?

[@KevinFinnerty-c4n]

They cut the Kray clip just before the best part where he says he once twisted a gay guy up like a pretzel!

[@marlonthomas8042]

They were in London to do business and the krays were on home turf and the gay one (reggie I think) was absolutely insane it was probably a test to see how they’d react

[@kastrioti.gjergj6074]

Rony was the one 👌

[@marlonthomas8042]

@@kastrioti.gjergj6074 cheers I always get them mixed up

[@elonmusket5676]

@@marlonthomas8042to be fair Reggie was also Bi, he had a boyfriend later in life

[@IllyrianRauthan-v9o]

​@@elonmusket5676so they say

[@TOTN17]

The Krays are the Reason the Italian Mafia never made it to the UK like they did in US

[@FirstLast-vl1uy]

That movie is great actually. He really is an amazing actor. Playing both brothers in that movie really showed that

[@jeromecrooks1256]

Hundred percent real. Ronnie Kray and his brother ran London. And worked with, not for American Mafia.

[@Justin-xs2yo]

Its so cute he thinks there were no gay people in the mob. Bless his heart 😂😂😂😂

[@TipppedScales1015]

There was definitely some Dl’s lmao

[@tehf00n]

I always thought this scene was put in for the humour. But Chaz is playing Angelo Bruno, who was known as a friendly person. Perhaps, if it did happen, he would have found it strange and amusing himself but he was in someone else's "manor" and he would have no reason to make a fuss over it and disrespect his business partners.

[@EMPERORSPROTECTION-TERRA4LIFE]

The scene actually showed that he wasnt actually ok. But he stopped and hid his reaction. Then just proceeded to be polite for the business. Thats how i took it.

[@eddihazel3658]

I liked how sonny glanced at his brother and his brother gave him the nod like "mmhm just go ahead and oblige yup" 😂😂😂

[@RickBerg-b9k]

Providence, RI always had an abundance of gay bars. The mafia was said to own a lot of gay nightclubs. For a city the size of Providence having 5 or 6 “gay” nightclubs was a lot. It was said, the mafia liked the gays because they were very private, kept to themselves, spent a lot of money when in the clubs, and they never started any fights (they didn’t want any police). They were always classy, well dressed, well mannered; gay nightclubs were considered big money makers. Once you got to know gay guys, it was hard not to like them, so many are such good people.

[@STACYSATTERFIELD]

Michael love your videos.

[@dannyward673]

The best part of any British gangster is Bob Hoskins the Long Good Friday 💪🏼 the scene where he goes and meets the mafia in the hotel. Proper ole skool

[@itsacarolbthing5221]

@dannyward673 one of the best movies ever made. It's a legendary classic. For me, it was Hoskins' best role. And Helen Mirren was outstanding too.

[@qjames0077]

I remember one captain getting whacked for greasing the unions a little too well

[@dr.vinnyboombatz22]

Vito Arena, Sammy, there were probably more than anyone will ever know.

[@oophorror2251]

The Krays would not have avoided eye contact like that either. I couldn’t watch that movie because of how they portrayed them.

[@palmina77italiana]

I'M WONDERING IF IN THE BAROQUE RENAISSANCE VICTORIAN ERA NOBODY DISCUSSED BEING GAY BUT PEOPLE KNEW WHO THEY WERE .. MAYBE , LOL .. BACK IN MY GRANDPARENTS TIME IT WAS A NO GO THING

[@terintiaflavius3349]

Most likely

[@JyujinPlus]

After the rise of Catholic led governments in the early Common era (say between like 200 and 1500 CE), homosexuality was heavily discriminated against as it was considered a sin by the religion that ran the government. However, until 1567, the Catholic Church had a system called ‘indulgences’, where a person could pay the church to have their sin cleansed and forgiven. I know that there are reports in the 19th century about old-money boarding schools being accepting of gay relationships during students’ time in school, with the understanding that those relationships are ended and forgotten about when the students graduate. The idea basically being that Indulgences created this subculture among rich nobility that you could be gay for fun, sometimes, as long as you knew when to stow it and settle down into a nice straight relationship. TLDR: In every era of history ppl were gay and talked about it, but only those who could afford to expressed it, and even they hid it.

[@christopherkettler8727]

"Unfortunately" and thats him not trying to be offensive😂😂😂😂

[@Zaza13511]

Anyone that's offended can be offended

[@Abefroman-lq3md]

It’s disgusting! He is right!!

[@cemoihonay]

Murder ok, offensive - being careful.

[@Flymeonthebreeze]

That was the fabulous Tom Hardy playing the British Mobster Reggie Kray. Reggie was gay and EVERYONE knew it. If another mobster insulted him about being gay, Reggie didn’t care who you were. He would have probably stab***you in the nec*or sho*** you in the face. Reggie was COMPLETELY CRAZY! Most people were afraid of him. Go watch the movie Legend with Tom Hardy, he plays both twins Ronnie & Reggie Kray.

[@flyhayst]

The gay person was unhinged and crazy?

[@danwest2858]

@@flyhayst Yeah so Ronnie considered himself bisexual in later years (as he got married to a female) but from a young age he was definitely open about being gay. He is also known as the more “crazy” one due to his paranoid schizophrenia (the one in the clip). Reggie who was the more “relaxed” one was bisexual (even though he often denied it), he got married twice.

[@Flymeonthebreeze]

@@danwest2858perfect response 👍

[@denisemawby362]

This was Ronnie not Reggie. Ronnie was the one that was openly gay and absolutely crazy. He served his sentence in a mental hospital. The original Kray twins movie play by the Martin and Gary Kemp who was also twins in real life was a much better movie.

[@flyairguy8825]

He just lucky it happened in the Ukraine cause if that would of happened in ny back then he wouldn't of made it back

[@Rumble225-qe7fy]

Correction. Guys back then just didn’t get caught was a lot of gay stuff going on behind closed doors.

[@isabellrc]

As a Sicilian who knew, I hope you have changed your perspective as “Born Again!”

[@CupidsCrackhouse]

Sure there were gays but they got married and had kids. Didn't want to get hurt.

[@thereject505]

Vito on the sopranos was based a real person

[@kingmaafa120]

Facts

[@kingmaafa120]

A lot of Macho hyped was hyped up to mask some of their activities or wouldn’t be surprised 👍

[@CupidsCrackhouse]

@kingmaafa120 do you know the meaning of giberous?

[@kingmaafa120]

@ Seems ppl down with this (C) will will always come ⬆️ or (COME OUT) with the d est things to justify it 😏👍 Read ⬇️⬇️ Gibberish… 🤔 not .. Now with that being said.. whatever because all I know.. is that the historical protocol ones🤐 BEHIND..get it🫣are just trying to continually promote their agenda globally & sadly over the past 10+ yrs 🎯 kids 👍 In the process spending billions if not trillions doing so.. I say enough-even beyond mafiosi 👍 See your soul for their… PINK $ isn’t even worth it.. 👍 TBC 🇺🇬🇹🇿❤️🦾🐈‍⬛🤐👍

[@jessejames5335]

Ma boy was for a split second scared of the 🌈 mafia than the actual mafia

[@PaulHosey-u3l]

Look what happened to Vito lol

[@Avi-h1w]

And Vito offered to get a note from his Doctor.

[@freakyninja3545]

​@@Avi-h1wit's the blood pressures Getting to my head! 😂

[@DavidHamburg-i5d]

Chaz was great in that scene. A career-topper reaction.

[@Swnsasy]

This was absolutely 100% correct. He was very open about it. This was not the Italian Mob and they said nothing. It was NOT fabricated that he was openly gay but this scene itself, no idea.

[@bjeffrey1863]

Vito was blowing the security guard. Finn.

[@luisbohorquez7096]

Lol.... Pitching not catching..????..😂🇮🇪☕ 🍕🍷🍷☕☕🇮🇪🍷

[@bjeffrey1863]

@@luisbohorquez7096 🤣

[@Aussieduderivs1]

We can’t have him here in our social club no more, I mean that much I do know.

[@MrPink2024]

*Chazz* 🤣🤣🤣

[@nicholasgarnett-ly9nw]

Yeah the excuse me I didn't catch that was excellent. 😀👍

[@dying101666]

I'm gay and not offended. That's just how it was.

[@chazzx1018]

If you earned, they didn't care if you were gay. Gambino crew had a cross dresser. When one of the crew referred to him be his male name, he got mad and stormed off. Franzeze knows nothing. He gonna say the Spartans weren't boy lovers next.

[@JyujinPlus]

⁠@@chazzx1018Source? About Gambino, I mean. I’ve read a book I know about Spartans lol

[@chazzx1018]

@JyujinPlus Gambino biography. He called himself Vickey when cross dressing. Real name Vinney. Being gay doesn't make one unmanly. Many gays are tough. See Spartans.

[@JyujinPlus]

@@chazzx1018 Do you know the name of the doc? This sounds like, right up my alley.

[@chazzx1018]

@JyujinPlus it was a book about John Gotti coming up through the mafia. Good read. Sorry forgot the name.

[@123_iseeyou]

YIKEEEES!!! Caught me by surprise too!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@TheLegPumpkin]

He wasn't trying to join, they ran London. He would have joked about it, and made whatever he could off or with them.

[@johnniedevv9149]

soon a new version of Godfather will be released where don Carleone is a black disabled gay)).

[@DylanAFSCMEFlintMI]

and a trans man(so a woman)

[@amos_comedies742]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@qiqi2692]

Marlon Brando was gay 😂

[@johnniedevv9149]

@@qiqi2692 😂😂

[@Olyfrun]

You do realise Ronnie Kray was a real gangland boss?

[@jgoodell77]

I can tell you quite emphatically, that while this may have been the case in the Colombo Crime Family, I personally knew two gay men in the Genovese Crime Family. And yes the Capo Big Al Bruno knew them and knew they were gay.

[@JyujinPlus]

Sort of why I wish Franzese would say ‘In the Colombo family’ instead of ‘in the mob’ every once and a while. Sure doesn’t seem like it’s a universal organization

[@Pilot545]

@@JyujinPlusagree 💯. Ppl need to remember everything he says is ONLY from his personal experience.

[@RosinoPetrini-z1r]

Did they go to the club Gear Box

[@croybeck8779]

AS A PERSON WHO HAS BEEN AROUND AND TALKED TO QUEER PEOPLE, THIS IS COMPLETELY BASED AF!!!🍺🗿👌

[@unfunnyname9027]

What does this comment even mean?

[@croybeck8779]

@unfunnyname9027 IT MEANS BACK WHEN I WAS WAS YOUNG IF YOU WAS QUEER THEN *YOU NOT LIKE US* FAM!!🍺🗿

[@LeahDyson-kq4bd]

😅

[@BoceGarcia]

"What did you get lost in Yonkers"???😂😂😂😂

[@thedarknate08]

I will never accept sin!

[@AlexG-tp2ik]

You sin everyday just like the rest of us. Get off your high horse.

[@mattpryor216]

there's nothing wrong with being homosexual OR trans and your 2000-year-old book of fairy tales about your imaginary sky daddy isn't fucking real.

[@thedarknate08]

@@AlexG-tp2ik I don't sin everyday you might but not me

[@AlexG-tp2ik]

@@thedarknate08Just the simple act of passing judgment on others is sinning. And you seem like the type who does a whole lot of that.

[@Navelover520]

​@@thedarknate08the bible says we all sin everyday. Argue with God not the internet. Lemme know how it goes for you pharisee

[@bigdevine]

You mean there was no openly gay people

[@bollox679]

It was illegal in the 60s still.

[@bigdevine]

@ fairly sure everything the mob did was illegal too mate.

[@freakyninja3545]

​@@bigdevineyeah but now the rainbow has a group like that now.

[@freakyninja3545]

​@@bigdevinethe rainbough group have one today aswell.

[@ricardo950535]

From what I heard and saw, NYC 70-80s, working my dad's deli all the time, you fought a gay guy back then it wasn't like today. You were in for a fight especially if they were high on those uppers and poppers. It was a tough time. They were used to being bullied and attacked.

[@Pilot545]

So, you fight a lot of gay guys, do you?

[@yous2244]

Good

[@EMusyk]

difference is, the mob wasn't dealing with any ordinary Mafia, they were dealing with the Krays.

[@ChlorineSpeedo]

Always inspiring seeing your assemblages. You look smart and beautiful - and you are!

[@alantinoalantonio]

Theres nothing wrong with not accepting certain practices. Cosa Nostra or any other org/club are exclusive by definition.

[@opaljk4835]

Practice makes perfect

[@beezzarro]

It's not about "accepting certain practices", it's about not accepting entire minorities based on things they cannot change and judging them for it. There's a world of wrong with that.

[@ben-9123]

@beezzarro Gay guy here, I’m not exactly losing sleep over not being allowed to join a violent criminal gang.

[@opaljk4835]

@@ben-9123 you probably still could, but it would have to be the right one.

[@Deeeeezeeeee]

The krays where both raving irons 😂

[@anniebell4386]

A lot of comedians lately said most Italian men are gay. Well, I know better. I was brought up in Italian home and I didn’t see any of that stuff!

[@r.j.3040]

You’re a damn girl Ofc you didn’t see anything

[@Mari-tn6fn]

That's bull! Italian men are the least gay. Very very small small percentage. Most gay men are black. Just google or ask Diddy and the gang

[@Kai88988]

should've finished the scene, it was what Cray said afterwards that changed the mob boss's mind

[@opena1759]

The Mexican prison gangs do not allow any form of homosexuality. The movie American Me had some of those involved in the movie executed and Edward James Olmos had to pay people off and is still watching his back to this day.

[@r.j.3040]

Ok great let’s be like the fn Mexicans I’d rather not

[@freakyninja3545]

@@r.j.3040 yeah and your type is different than us? I don't think so.

[@hectorleon465]

I'm sure there were gay folks but they just didn't want to admit cause of how society would of reacted 🤷

[@bollox679]

It was illegal in the UK in the 60s,

[@hectorleon465]

@bollox679 everyone can hide their gayness over time

[@bucketheadwendy5358]

Another reason why england could use a 2A

[@beezzarro]

What? What does that have to do with this?

[@davemartino5997]

@@beezzarrokid was a Brit and second they surely could use 2A especially today with all the Islamist mess they got

[@beezzarro]

@@davemartino5997 what reason in this clip makes you say that England needs a second amendment? What about this has anything to do with Islam? Or a tyrannical governments? So you know what the second amendment is for? Because it's not there to give you license to sh00t people you don't like.

[@ben-9123]

@davemartino5997 The Islamists could also get guns in that situation. Then no one wins.

[@suspicioususer]

to defend against homophobes? I agree

[@thomaswilson7655]

I totally understand! Where I'm from we roll Adam&Eve not Adam&Steve!

[@dagnabbit6187]

As far as female gayness . There used to be an old web site called Blind Gossip where one could guess who the celebrity was in a scandalous clip. This one was a female coming out of the closet . I posted that many women are bisexual sometimes. Guy corrected me . He said that you are or you are not and that homosexuality and bisexuality isn’t an on off switch. He then wrote “ but you are correct women are more queer than what their boyfriends or husbands will acknowledge “

[@michaelharrison3602]

Telling Angelo Bruno that he preferred boys Italians actually is Ronnie Telling him that he's not afraid of him.its a challenge you want to say something about it. I doubt if that conversation actually took place Angello would have lost face in front of his own people

[@brandonwood8117]

That's what he thinks!!!😂😂😂 There were probably plenty of sausage suckers!!!😂😂😂

[@chazzx1018]

Gambino crew had a cross dresser. Read his biography. This guy is so full of it. Franzeze acts like he knows everything that went on.

[@kingmaafa120]

Facts

[@Matt_Fields_29]

I think the point is this would've been unusual at best. It's a dramatic way for the movie to tell the audience how much leverage and value he has that guys will still do business with him.

[@Mutterschwein]

Ronnie Kray(the character he was reacting to) was well documented to be gay and they're British, not Italians/Cosa Nostra anyway. Not sure if the actual conversation happened though but the Kray Twins really did meet Angelo Bruno.

[@beeshor1]

Tom Hardy is hilarious in this scene. "I prefer boys. Italians mostly. Sometimes Greeks. But I'm not prejudiced."

[@bretmavrick-ph2ip]

You tell em bro....

[@SplashyGames]

"Turned him off in a big way" what you think some outta town Italian American could've done ANYTHING to Ronnie Kray in London back then? You're a mad man 😂

[@scott575]

He is a kray brother if my memory is ok and was gay

[@Palendrome]

Like Mike said, they would work with him, but theyd never let someone in cosa nostra who was gay

[@ceilconstante640]

Coming from an old fashioned Italian family, it was a BIG shame. I had a cousin that was gay. , but not obvious. My Mom was aware but no one ever mentioned it. Also, I've posed as a date for a gay Italian man when he went to weddings.

[@johnpauldriskill8737]

Why is it a shame who cares

[@iankerr6526]

people usually just are afraid of the truth they want to try it and are probably somewhat bisexual themselves, everyone is

[@chazzx1018]

Earners got a pass. Many gays in the mafia, even in the 60s.

[@bobroberson9286]

I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHO GETS THEIR FEELINGS HURT, ONE WAY ONLY, MAN 💔 WOMAN ⚡

[@endlessnameless6628]

Thats your opinion, thing is if you'd have said that to Reggie Kray back in the day? They'd have been scraping your nutsack off the ceiling and finding your head down a drain in Soho lol

[@Danimalpm1]

The feeling is mutual because they’re not losing any sleep over what you think.

[@r.j.3040]

Guys hooking up with females is gay I mean think ab it… you’re legit hanging out with a female. Talking ab gay female things Soft n weak. Females aren’t capable of being as loyal as males You’re literally having sex with someone who wears make up and wears dresses THAT SH!T IS GAY They can’t even fight

[@Mutterschwein]

Wow you're so brave posting that in the youtube comments on a burner account 😁

[@Cheekysnob]

Your face at the start 😭 You look like my teacher who got too angry with us all talking 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@MarkoSkid121]

It almost certainly did make him.mad, and turn him off immediately bit he was most likely very aware that his reaction could cost his life

[@NJFXD]

We can't have him in our social club anymore, that much I do know.

[@judytinker3392]

Michael was a really nice guy somewhere along the line. He had really good parents that he did learn some things from other things he learned in the street but at the end, he also realized that his parents were correct in the advice that they were giving him.

[@TracyDeskins-h5p]

The chuckle at the end of the video. 😂

[@phillyboy215ism]

The way he blank was crazy like huh😅

[@jordanw.97]

The way he blinked his eyes in disbelief is hilarious

[@dagnabbit6187]

Vito on the Sopranos of course brings everybody to this speculation . The era also has a say . The writing was so good on the Sopranos Sil remarked “ You know T he is not the first one !”

[@RedHavok7]

This a surprisingly accepting comment section.