Were the Romanians Responsible? | Operation Uranus Part II

[@funkyhetzer6624]

Well, from what I have read in Reports and articles about the romanian Army in Stalingrad, I believe they did best with what they had. They not only were outnumbered but also undersupplied and undereuqipped to stage a succesfull Defence of the Stalingrad Flanks. Great Report and new sub for this great channel!

[@johnweber6612]

Great video. I believe the Romanians did a decent job overall. Logistics for army groups a and b were a disaster in fall 1942. Very difficult for the Romanians to hold in flatland without enough artillery, anti tank guns and reserves.

[@Serby665]

well, they did have one pak40 for every 2-3 km of front, so, yeah, that got the Russians dying of laughter. Romania would end up realizing they are way behind, and build towards the end of 1943 an excellent 75mm gun, but, as usual, it would be too little too late.

[@darklysm8345]

Decent? No But the fault is not on the romanians alone

[@meopen1888]

@@darklysm8345 The Germans were too stretched out, I mean what the hell were they doing in North Africa? The Brits knew their business, you could be better then them, but they would exhaust you by having you fight everywhere at the same time. Inexcusable.

[@jeffjefferson-re4pe]

@@meopen1888 For the same reason they were in the Caucus, petroleum.

[@skyninjaslayer337]

@@jeffjefferson-re4peItaly

[@botatobias2539]

Dumitrescu went on in 1944 to earn the Oak Leaves to his Knight's Cross and lead an Army Group bearing his name. Army Group Dumitrescu consisted of the Romanian 3rd Army and the German 6th Army. The irony is quite fitting.

[@HoLSurena]

The situation even before Uranus starts is a perfect example that sending more and more troops to a battle is useless if you won't have the logistic to supply them. Romania was a little country compared to the "big guys" of this war, they just dont have the capability to give food, ammo and vehicles in the numbers required to such a big war. The germans also were on the limit of their supplies too so it was just a dream to give german equip to the romanians. The romanians even with this critical situation gave a very good fight but the catastrophe was inminent

[@milosmilojevic3506]

Thanks for this interesting video. For myself Romanian involvement in the Eastern Front was present in the mind, but more as a footnote, without proper understanding how far reached it was.

[@hailedamesse3179]

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[@nataliasekula8522]

Many years ago I was playing panzer general 2 and I was defending against operation Uranus with romanian troops .. It was impossible.. horse drawn artillery, slow and weak infrantry almost without AT on open step.. against T-34 and motorized infrantry. It was hardest game ever..

[@Armageddon4145]

Great game. Back almost 30 years

[@rudolphhessian4183]

@@Armageddon4145 I downloaded Panzer General 2 from GOG galaxy it cost like 9 bucks or something, so they still have it. There is operation winter storm , can play as russians too

[@ivan200804]

Same here. Also, Combat Missions had a similar battle, but you were attacking as Soviets. Romanians had a few paks, but my tanks crushed them without any problem. The real issue is that Germans did not expect this offensive.

[@NO_LOVE_LOST]

I just recently discovered your channel and I'm already hooked. the insight gained by these transcripts is immense and your work is a great addition to the stuff other channels do. If you need another voice actor, I'd be very happy to help! I'm a German native speaker and fluent in English.

[@Armageddon4145]

Good to know, thank you! Currently we use Patreon as a first level exchange tool, you're welcome there.

[@DerDop]

In Germany"s defense, they made a movie in the 50's about Stalingrad where they show how the Romanians warned them about the impeding Soviet offensive and how the Germans were dismissive about this information( we were really good on 3 things: informations,close quarter fighting, and aerial warfare) We all know how that ended. On a more personal note, my grandfather escaped before the encirclement(he was stationed on Don's Bend, a location that gained mythical proportions in our family ),after he was wounded in a bombardment ( he lost his left eye and partially lost its hearing). After the war ended, he was employed as a guardian in a communist farm. The dude, a total beast, used to sleep on the field in temperatures well below the freezing point, and always had a bayonet under his bed, even in his 90's. The mofo died while sleeping. My grandpa was not a Nazi, was not a violent man, didn't hate Jews or gypsies( he hated Russians, his family was killed by Russian soldiers in 1917 or 1918), he was a peasant that did his job. Regarding the bad reputation received by us for losing at Stalingrad... Holland and Belgium, imperial powers, lasted 10 days in WW2, while we made to Caucasus.

[@answerman9933]

"aerial warfare"?

[@PoliticalGangster]

Still the Romanians fault. Should of fought harder or died trying.

[@surducalexandru9553]

@@PoliticalGangster they did die.. Politicalstuuupid mf

[@bbbabrock]

​@@PoliticalGangster Yeah. They should have shit all that ammo, heavy artillery, and mobility they were short of.

[@JamesJames-jt3ts]

​@@answerman9933 Yes, Romanian Royal Air Force was one of the best. With Me 109 and IAR 80( domestically developed plane) and very high skilled pilots they kept soviets fighters in check for a long time

[@atanasijesimic4651]

Many thanks for these very creative historical presentations, narrators once again did an amazing job!

[@jamesthompson8431]

One thing I've always found great with Armageddon and staldata is the music in the intro etc. It can have a really positive effect on the whole channel and alot of channels don't seem to realise it's importance. Love ya work mate

[@Armageddon4145]

Glad you think like me about the importance of music for a channel imprint.

[@sonnyjim5268]

This is very interesting and informative. The Romanians have not been fairly portrayed by the traditional narrative. Thanks for setting the record straight. BZ

[@AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947]

By the looks of thing's now, that Alzheimer's ridden, International Weakling and Laughingstock, counterfeit American President Biden is setting Romania up to do his dirty work concerning Russia and it's dealings with Ukraine

[@jasonharryphotog]

Manstein book lost victory made similar points that they had heart and fight well but there was only so much he could do with them, they should of been supplied better, and units assigned to strengthen them up in both management and material

[@DerDop]

@@AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947 elaborate. As a Romanian, i can tell you that were not doing anyone's dirty job when it comes to Ukraine. In fact, we're quite silent on this matter.

[@AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947]

@@DerDop If I were you Guys I would ignore anything that Fraudulently selected, not Legitimately elected, Alzheimer's ridden, International Weakling and Laughingstock, counterfeit American President Biden, and his Puppeteers ask of you regarding the ill fated invasion of Russia, via Ukraine by them

[@DerDop]

@@AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947 this has nothing to do with Biden. We are pro US, not pro Biden or pro Trump. USA is not Russia or China, it doesn't rely on one man, like Russia on Putin.

[@Waterflux]

It is very nice to see Armageddon staying active! The Battle for Berlin series are quite interesting, although I still have a long way to go. :) It is quite clear to me that the Rumanians were not responsible for the disaster in Operation Uranus: 1. The Wehrmacht could not even adequately arm and reinforce the Romanian 3rd and 4th Armies. This is like expecting a decent return on investment without first making adequate investment. Tsk, tsk, tsk ... 2. The Rumanian commanders were well aware of the dismal predicament they were in. They were not shy about pointing out their concerns to Weichs and other German higher-ups, but to no avail. Although, I should not be too harsh on Weichs and Paulus, considering how much these two were overstretched with next to no prospect of things getting better, meaning they would not have been able to provide much to the Rumanians even if they seriously wanted to. 3. By October 1942, the Wehrmacht was, for all practical purposes, behaved like a boxer in a late round. In other words, the German did not have much in the way of new operational-strategic ideas; just cling to the Don and Stalingrad and hope for the best. (When exhausted while danger is just under the horizon, people tend to comfort themselves by becoming a bit too optimistic.) That is, since the Red Army bled horrendously in both 1941 and 1942 all out of proportion compared to the Wehrmacht's losses, it would not have been a stretch for the German higher-ups to convince themselves that the Red Army would be too worn out to pull off a counteroffensive anytime soon. 4. The frontline was damn toooooo long! In particular, it is not going to be very fun to be a divisional commander with orders to defend 20km of front while he is also aware that there are Soviet tank corps lurking somewhere. Therefore, the German failure had a lot to do with not having enough force size and logistical support to achieve the objectives defined by Operation Blau. So, it was a strategic-level blunder, rather than tactical or operational.

[@Armageddon4145]

And Thank You for sharing another very accurate analysis! Yes it was a 100% strategic blunder. The fact is that Stalingrad was Hitler's last possible prize to justify the whole year's campaign. The Caucasus was already beyond his grasp, so it was the Volga or nothing. That and the blatant underestimation of the Red Army (in quantity AND in quality) led to this outcome. The Romanian were obviously the scapegoat.

[@clarkdewar7122]

I look forward to your videos on the actual details of the complete encirclement and how it compliments TIK's very informative Stalingrad video series. Thank you for your hard work... this is truly informative and entertaining as well. Salute.

[@Armageddon4145]

More to come!

[@Scranton0]

I knew an Officer from the 6th Rumanian Infantry. He told me that he lost many of his friends in this battle. It was terrible.

[@KPC-123]

Thank You for the entertaining education and by all mean.... Keep up the good work fellas cause I'm LOVIN IT!

[@Armageddon4145]

Thanks, will do!

[@MD21037]

A.I. Eremenko was the first Soviet officer to come up with the idea for what became "Operation Uranus."

[@artkin-oc6ps]

Indeed you are correct, the video has an error. Eremenko is the creator of the plan.

[@rozkaz661]

Thanks so much for making this

[@dmdj8588]

The cruel fact why axis failed? LOGISTICS

[@cristianmicu]

the question is why the germans didn't have any logistics problem invading poland + france? they were 2 close to germany? seems logical, the further you go the slowest you can push forward! logistics work as the foot of one army

[@surducalexandru9553]

@@cristianmicu the problem is that the russian infrastructure is infinit worse

[@Centrodemasa]

Thanks a lot guys!!!!....you are making a great job!!!

[@markpaul8178]

Thanks ARMAGEDON for yet another superb video.I love how you guys are breaking it down for the grand finale .

[@Armageddon4145]

Glad you enjoyed, Mark.

[@stevecoscia]

Informative video, Anton. The archival maps add much value and authenticity regarding the weeks prior to Uranus. I will likely watch this a few more times to grasp all the details. Thank you.

[@Armageddon4145]

Glad you like it, Steve.

[@bungobox7454]

@@Armageddon4145 Those Romanian maps are great!

[@jaroslavpalecek4513]

Thank you Anton for another great video.

[@Armageddon4145]

Glad you enjoyed it Jaroslav!

[@dyejohn1905]

The Romanians told the Germans that they did not have the weapons to resist the Russian, they were ignored.

[@MrQ454]

Not even that ! The front was too long to cover, on the left and right of their formations, they did not have enough men physically. Even with better weapons it is doubtful that they could have held out much longer in those positions, without any naturally defensible positions. They asked for reserves (only some strong armored forces could have supported the defense against any tank attack there!), they got only dubious tank formations that could not stop the Soviet tanks at all. In addition, many soldiers had not been fed enough and had no winter clothes for weeks and even months! (they received nothing, no ammunition, all transport being monopolized by the Germans!).

[@alexandruturza7131]

I am Romanian and was looking forward for this video for long time. During WW2 Romania was the most important allied to the germans. From the axis allies, Romania provided to the front the largest number of men power to the front and they heavily fought until august 1944. On the other hand they provided a large quantity of oil needed by germans in their effort.

[@milosmilojevic3506]

Recently I begin to find out how massive Romanian engagement on the Eastern Front was. Unfortunately, I can't read Romanian and its military history.

[@julianshepherd2038]

Didn't have the Italian navy

[@petrosros]

The Romanians had a reputation for extreme cruelty in the treatment of civilians, rape, murder and pillage being de-rigour. A country that came out inexplicably fattened, smelling of roses for its crimes. Incidentally, both Austria and Hungary want their territory back and so do the people. I sincerely hope the Russian Federation support them in this aim.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

@@petrosros I wouldn't call them fattened. They're one of the poorer nations of the EU, as they were of the Warsaw Pact. And hundreds of thousands of Romanians were captured and got to endure forced labor in Siberia, along with the Germans they went to war with. As for Hungary wanting Transylvania back, well, that border is a can of worms, but since they are both in NATO I doubt that the US will let them open that can of worms, just like the US always keeps a lid on that simmering conflict between Turkey and Greece. I fail to see what territorial claims Austria has though. The old Austrian Hungarian empire is long dead and dissolved. And also almost all of its former territory, except neutral Austria is now part of NATO. And even then Transylvania was a part of the Hungarian part of the Austrian Hungary empire, not the Austrian part.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

@@julianshepherd2038 The importance of the Italian navy cannot be underestimated. Even sitting in port doing nothing, without the French navy to counter, as was the original plan of the Royal Navy, it now tied massive Royal Navy assets to the Mediterranean that could not be used elsewhere. The British East Indies Fleet, instead of being one of the main fleets as was planned before the war, now came last in priorities and force allocations after the Atlantic, the convoys to Russia and the Mediterranean. It was so weak for most of the war it had to hide in Africa in 1942, leaving most of the Indian Ocean to the Japanese until 1944. Which makes the Italian navy the most important contribution to the Axis that Italy made.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

As with everything in life, preparation is the key and knowing where to strike. For almost 2 years the Red Army pissed away millions of men in poorly conducted, ill prepared and piss poor supported offensives. Uranus is probably the 1st time that the Red Army not rushed things but took its time to properly plan and prepare. And even then it was very fortunate that the German advance in the summer had overstretched their defensive lines. Unlike at Rhzev where the Wehrmacht basically occupied the same lines throughout all of 1942. Maybe the Red Army of 1944 could have attacked the Rhzev sailliant headon and win, but not the Red Army of 1942 which was still in the process of rebuilding and relearning its craft. Small wonder then that Mars failed miserably and Uranus succeeded beyond expectations.

[@jasonharryphotog]

The Russians by this time were being fed the German movements and transmissions in real time,

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

@@jasonharryphotog Sauce? Because the best known cause I know off of the Soviets getting the best intel on the German plans was with Kursk. And even then there was still a lot of guess work and estimates. For instance the Soviets expected the main blow to come from Model in the North, which was why Rokossovsky was very well prepared and stopped Model cold in a few days. Whereas the main blow came from the South from Hoth, and Vatutin was having a really hard time stopping 4th Panzer Army. Which almost broke through.

[@bergssprangare]

Blah blah blah...You have to be stupid not to understand the numbers that CCCP could muster..Ubermensch thinking and following a plassfus, failed artist and mudcrawler has its prise too...

[@misterbaker9728]

@@bergssprangare cmon bro smoke a number and relax

[@andrewblake2254]

Overextension was a feature not a bug.

[@asullivan4047]

Interesting/informative/educational. Excellent photography job/maps enabling viewers to better understand what/whom the orator was describing. Special thanks to veteran soldiers/civilians sharing personal information/combat experiences making this documentary more authentic and possible. The Romanians were under equipped/undermanned/under trained. How on earth 🌎 could Berlin expect that army. To hold out against such a superiority equipped force. They were smart to surrender to the Russian military forces. Or face total annihilation.

[@walkingwithgiants1]

A wonderful presentation, great narration and images, amazing channel!!

[@razvanteleanu4302]

the fact is we couldn't stop the tanks with pak 36 (even those in small numbers)

[@UnclePhilly225]

Oh this is exciting, i love learning about the Minor Axis nations. Good work once again Armageddon

[@bobandal]

We waited 20 f*cking years for this!

[@UnclePhilly225]

@@bobandal I compromised, I blamed it on Hitlers direct intervention on overall strategic operation.

[@bobandal]

@@UnclePhilly225 I loved him like a brother-in-law but now, I think I may peep for the National Committee for a Free Germany.

[@Mircea076]

This minor axis nation had the second army after Germany.

[@karylhogan5758]

Well, I work with Romanians, hard workers, if given right tools , or weapons in this case, they would have given better show, Germany treated then second class, anyway, so what did they expect.?

[@DerDop]

That was the Nazi mindset, they treated Austrians as second class, what would you expect...

[@surducalexandru9553]

Is was not that they didnt want to.. The. Logistic problem and they put the priority for the 6 army.. An army in combat..but thank you for the nice words

[@360Nomad]

>General Dumitrescu No one tell Resident Evil fans about him

[@jayjayson9613]

What was the purpose of capturing Stalingrad militarily and campaign wise? I've heard that a railroad yard ran from Stalingrad to Astrakan hence its importance. Anything else? Could this disaster have been averted had the Army Group South not been split? Secondly just how bad was German intelligence to miss such a buildup of forces for Uranus?

[@Armageddon4145]

Good questions expecting answers in this series

[@jayjayson9613]

@@Armageddon4145 nice! I'm looking forward to it. Really appreciate your efforts and all your videos. We need detailed history like this. Be well.

[@AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947]

On the subject of Stalingrad, that Alzheimer's ridden, International Weakling and Laughingstock, counterfeit President Biden, and his woke joke General's Autistic Austin, and Milquetoast Milley, setting US Troops up for their own....

[@andrewblake2254]

@@AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947 Its impossible for an american to understand that it is just not about him all the time. Its not about you.

[@AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947]

@@andrewblake2254 wanna bet real cash on that ?

[@johnhenderson131]

I love that statement from Hitler…”I refuse to accept this”. As the war turned more and more against Hitler and his sycophants, Hitler began using that statement more and more often, usually when referring to the reality of the dire situation as the Russian closed in on his bunker. His order for General Steiner to use his 11,000 men to rescue Berlin for example, he was told Steiner was barely managing to retreat and in no position to relieve himself let alone Berlin…Hitler refused to accept reality and order Steiner to attack regardless.

[@napoleonbonaparte937]

Operation Uranus was the single most important and decisive operation in the second World war by Russian military which ensures victory of the Allies.

[@jayo3074]

No it wasn't it was D Day by far.

[@napoleonbonaparte937]

@@jayo3074 85% of the German Military machine and might destroyed by the Russians in the Eastern front during the second World 🌎🌍 war and rest all the campaigns in North Africa, Italy and D day was just a side show in front of the main battle between Germany and Russia in the Eastern front.

[@victorpelosi7082]

Operation Uranus turned the tide of war.

[@jayo3074]

@@victorpelosi7082 only in the East

[@napoleonbonaparte937]

@@victorpelosi7082 Exactly, Before the execution of operation Uranus, German Army think itself to be invincible but Operation Uranus breaks the myth that German Military machine is invincible and Germany lost not only its sixth Army but as a nation it lost its self confidence after this massive catastrophic defeat at Stalingrad.

[@Odysseus88]

That’s what I luv about this channel! Now I’ve read serval books that were more like and overview of the war but this channel goes deeper. I can honestly say after understanding the basics I switched to the political, philosophical, the propaganda and history leading up to these historical events. More of a jack of all trades rather than an in-depth study in these major military events. It’s why I appreciate what you guys do! It’s why i enjoy this channel Thanks for putting this together for us

[@Armageddon4145]

Thanks for your interest!

[@wheelervette]

Great video. Looking forward to the next one already

[@wdsp69]

Another great video.

[@lorimeyers3839]

About time! Needed my fix..

[@TukozAki]

I've followed TIK and WW2 work on this and men, this is trully *amazing* work! Now FYI I wasn't able to follow the main places mentionned in the commentary on the maps displayed. For most were in russian / cyrillic which I can't read :/ If only it would be possible to mark those land marks on the maps? Other than that, just woow, men!

[@bungobox7454]

When I first decided to learn Russian, my teacher said to the whole class - learn the alphabet for next week's class; those of you who can't be bothered to do that, don't bother coming back!

[@coachhannah2403]

Google Maps and Google Earth do well.

[@colemanhigley747]

Did the Germans simply not notice the buildup? Were they flying reconnaissance consistently? Or did they just simply refuse to believe an offensive like this was able to be developed?

[@jasonharryphotog]

I think B was over extended, it was not only the loss of those in Stalingrad and the flanks. but all the resources poured into gaps like a sticking plaster that would of been better sent up in an organised way before the troubles

[@andrewblake2254]

I think because they could not act on it that they were unable to really take it on board. And previous soviet attempts had been feeble.

[@jasonharryphotog]

@@andrewblake2254 a lack of everything and failure to take Stalingrad had everything over extended for one and just in the right place for another

[@bungobox7454]

On 12th November, von Richtofen, commander of Luftflotte IV, wrote in his diary - Opposite the Romanians on the Don, the Russians are resolutely carrying out their preparations for an attack. Available elements of Fliegerkoprs VIII, other fleet units and the Romanian air forces continually hit them. Their reserves have now been concentrated. When will the Russians attack? ..I only hope that the Russians don't tear too many large holes in the line.

[@DerDop]

They were warned, but they considered the Russians to be too weak.

[@360Nomad]

W-What do you mean Italians whose only significant combat was fighting in a. desert and the Alpine regions were completely unsuited for fighting on the vast frozen Russian steppe?

[@milosmilojevic3506]

Big number of Italian troops fought in the East, and control big part of the Balkans.

[@JVDAWG1]

They were unsuited for fighting anywhere.

[@farqitol]

@@JVDAWG1 😂😂😂😂😂 Sunburned armpits.......

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

@@JVDAWG1 Like with the Romanians and Hungarians on the Eastern Front the average Italian soldier lacked motivation as to why he was fighting in this war in the first place. And Italian equipment was a generation out of date. Had Italy gone to war in the 1930's they would probably have had the best gear in the world. By 1940, not so much.

[@chaptermasterpedrokantor1623]

Italy's military campaigns in Africa and Russia were 'less then stellar' shall we say. But they did contribute a lot of troops. Most of Yugoslavia and Greece were occupied by Italy and in 1943 the Germans not only had to disarm dozens of Italians divisions in the Balkans but also replace those divisions. With a lot of that gear and some Italian troops ending up with the Partisans. That was a major game change in the war in the Balkans. And the Italian navy, just by virtue of existing, just like the Tirpitz in Norway, tied up a large chunk of the Royal Navy in that theater that could not redeploy to where it was needed the most, in the Indian and Pacific Ocean. There's a reason why the Royal Navy only entered into the Pacific War in earnest in 1945.

[@j3lny425]

If the idea of plan blue was to cut off Soviet supplies along the Volga why did it have to be at a city?

[@vladb4493]

The 3rd RO Army didn t have Pak40 AT guns but a few refurbished 75 mm French field guns received from the Germans.

[@baseballworldwide9439]

The whole point of the offensive into the caucuses was to secure the Baku oil. Pulling troops out of the caucuses would’ve negated the whole operation. That simply wasn’t an option

[@Jinxohh]

Such a amazing channel great work guys, the minor axis forces could’ve done much more if they we equipped better and definitely could’ve changed the outcome of the war.

[@alih6953]

Germany was far too outstretched though they could have NEVER won! Paulus told Halder in 1940 that reaching the Volga was just not possible. He did reach it but could not have held it kzbin.info/www/bejne/hqHWeHqqp9ekg9k&ab_channel=WorldWarTwo

[@russellblake9850]

Fantastic series. @6:48 .... Romanian troops were kept at home in case of war with Hungary" ... really ? never heard of this. Can you share some sources ?

[@danielandrone8795]

It is true, just the year is wrong....they do this especially after Stalingrad disaster....units bring in the România for "rebuild", and keep in the country .... Germany asked for more men before Stalingrad, but România keept enough units in the country to cover Romanian-Hungarian border

[@surducalexandru9553]

@@danielandrone8795... Inexact... From the start roumanians form so call.. Easy divizions..6..or 7 batalions.. A normal . Div have 9..10.. Basical for every div sent in east.. They keept home a regiment..

[@surducalexandru9553]

Verify the. Mettings of Antonescu with Hitler... In one of discution Antonescu bluntly saying that if the problem of NTransilvania.. Especialy afther the massacre of the hungarian army over the civilians.. If the problem is not solved in roumanians favor.. Roumanian army "will" intervine.. He is not asking permision.. He is stating that.. And afther that for every divizion send in east.. A regiment stay at home.. In rezerved

[@russellblake9850]

@@surducalexandru9553 thx, a little known story. The animosity of allies !!

[@surducalexandru9553]

@@russellblake9850 ..is wery well known..just you have to read a little history..from the roumanians or hungarians point if wiew..but look for tactical maps..you will never see ..a hungarian unit next to a roumanian..because they are likely to fight each other...rather then russians ..this was well know by OKW

[@РафаэльХанов-ф3ъ]

Мой дедушка участвовал в этом наступлении на южном фланге как десантник на броне танка...рассказывал что во время прорыва румынской линии обороны ни разу не выстрелил..так как не было никого...все разбежались или сдались😂...в его роте никого даже не ранило и не погибло...🖐🫶🏻✌🏻

[@loneycornel778]

Trolule! Esti peste tot user.

[@mihaiviteazu1886]

If the allied will not helped USSR Germany will won the war and Romania join Germany in the war because you invade Romania first in 1939 Ribbentrop- Molotov pact remember when USSR take Basarabia from Romania.

[@jasonharryphotog]

thanks , great episode

[@84rb]

Please do an episode about tha 2nd Hungarian Army which was on the northern flank of the Stalingrad region of the front! They withstood the soviet attacks a bit longer than the Italians or the Romanians, but it was hopless fight: they were out numbered and under equiped.

[@РафаэльХанов-ф3ъ]

В меньшинстве...?😂 Наступающие клинья русских в три раза уступали силам Оси...так как думали что в окружение попадут 80-90 тысяч человек...а оказалось более 300 000...😂🖐

[@adamskikijowski9139]

I like this format

[@danielc6925]

Great job !

[@paduapeted49]

Nicely balanced assessment with interesting new sources! Everything had to wait for the big, 'final' push in the Stalingrad sector... or did it? Well these flanks were thinned out at German discretion, on their watch. So the Stalingrad sector sucked in more and more German units, depleting and fatiguing them too... In the belief that Soviet resources were virtually expended, and that everything was in hand.... as per usual.

[@mechaboy0226]

I’m looking forward to the part where we get to see operation Uranus in motion

[@Armageddon4145]

In another couple of episodes

[@66numero]

17:43, "the Volga flotilla deploying Titanic efforts" , pun intended?

[@Silverstream-74]

What i find interresting is that the Romanian troops weakend their own divisions to keep troops back in Romania incase of war with Hungary. Did they seriously think war with Hungary would be allowed at this point?

[@AwayWithYouVileBeggar]

I mean Hitler pretty much encouraged this behaviour and made the Romanians and Hungarians compete for land (AKA Transilvania). The good: the Romanians and Hungarians advanced into Russia and did all they could to help the Germans even when they wouldn't gain anything from these conquered lands. The bad: well neither trusted each other anymore and they were fully prepared to kill each other for the land that Hitler promised both thus they couldn't fight alongside each other.

[@surducalexandru9553]

They where not weeking anything.. A force of 150.000 man.. Is 150.000 man.. Egal they are in 10 divizions.. Or 20...and about of permision to wage war agains hungary.. Roumanians would not ask.. That is the reason that roumanians troops only recevid the hevy equipment from the germans on the front(equipment that the roumanian guverment already payd)..that is the reason for exemple that the 15 inf Divizion enter in combat in Stalingrad with no artilery.. And 6 (six) AT guns.. Do the logistical problems german could not provide the rest.. So... That was it..

[@kamarkhal]

Stalingrad was the beginning of the end for the German invasion in the east Today we have the benefit of hind sight but during those days neither Stalin nor stavka had full intelligence of the situation I believe No wonder the preparation had to be full proof. Brilliant narration, keep up the good work👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947]

Same goes for that Alzheimer's ridden, International Weakling and Laughingstock, counterfeit President Biden, and his General's Autistic Austin, and Milquetoast Milley if they attempt to head east

[@kamarkhal]

@@AutomatedPersonnelUnit_3947 Hopefully that doesn't happen, because all said and done the human cost of any war is unprecedented The advantage with the us is that the war never reaches their backyard, so they never have to deal with collateral damages

[@nikesan2472]

@fun fact. really? how? Romania is part of NATO.

[@kamarkhal]

@@nikesan2472 fighting in another country is not same as fighting within the borders of one's own country True Romania is part of NATO, but in the event of conflict collateral damages will be in Romania and not in the USA

[@701duran]

great video as always, and are you guys planning on doing a video about the Italian Alpine corp's breakout to the west it's an interesting story.

[@georgekaragiannakis6637]

Thank you for an interesting analysis. You seem to conclude that the Germans were responsible as they knew the weaknesses of the Romanians, yet I’d suggest it was a failure of aggressive action and intelligence at the army level of the 3rd and 4th Romanian that tactically resulted in the disaster. Certainly at the strategic level the German high command seemed to underestimate the Russian reserves, especially as the Kotluban offensives seemed to the Germans the ineffectiveness of Russian counteroffensives.

[@Armageddon4145]

Certainly the German intelligence was completely wrong in assessing the Soviet forces

[@stevevicory9623]

Other than the Finns perhaps, the Romanians were perhaps the best German Allies. Their equipment was simply inadequate for 1940s armoured warfare.

[@РафаэльХанов-ф3ъ]

Мой дед повоевал со всеми...говорил что после немцев тяжело было воевать с венграми и финнами...🖐

[@sylvainguidi]

*I refuse to accept this* (excellent voice and tone)

[@fazole]

It reminds me of Carter impersonating the Führer in Hogan's Heroes!

[@vaninec]

There is no info in anglish on the Romanian attack on the USSR In 1941, on June 22 3:15 Weird or What?

[@chudleyflusher7132]

Beautiful maps.

[@82dorrin]

Me: *A serious student of history* Also me: Hehe, "Uranus"

[@JamesJames-jt3ts]

Romanian divisions were the best, better equipped for the cold, cunning in their actions and knew their enemy better. No wonder why they repeatedly informed the germans that an offensive is imminent. The only problem was they lacked enough weapons. If this was a deliberate action of the romanian high command we have to find out.

[@carlrichards5207]

Very well done.

[@twoquickii1330]

Those maps are so damn cool. Is there any place that sells prints?

[@Armageddon4145]

No they remain inside the archives

[@robertrotman7730]

by november 1942 romania had secured ALLLLLL of its war aims against the Soviet Union and then some Bessarabia, Transnistria maybe a bit more in future peace. So soldiers felt their war was over! The staff and Antonescu were still indebted to Hitler however. For the Romanians the war was over we just had to get to the peace now! Soldiers were trying to survive to the peace not die on the way there as the war, if you looked at maps anyway, was pretty much won! For the Germans there was still ideological war against the Soviet Union and communism/jewry!

[@danielandrone8795]

Romania's goal in that war was the annihilation of the Soviet threat to Romania... since the creation of the Soviet state, it continued aggressive actions against Romania, through attacks in the border area, raids by spies and instigators in Romania (mainly Jews, Ukrainians , hence the behavior towards them)... From 1919 to 1940, the Soviets behaved aggressively towards Romania, and not aggressively at the diplomatic level, just... It was who who, the sword had come out of its sheath, so that stopping on the Dniester was stupid, at that moment.

[@SuperSwordoftruth]

I agree with Paulas in that the Romanian divisions should have been spread amongst German armies. That way their relative weakness would not have caused the Germans any significant strategic defeats. Not sure how politically feasible that was though. How much control did the Germans have over their allies?

[@Armageddon4145]

This was certainly the good thing to do.

[@surducalexandru9553]

@@Armageddon4145that is not necesarily true.. A god thing to do...is That they have a decent second line... And a few tank divizions in rezerves redy to intervine..

[@surducalexandru9553]

@@Armageddon4145 ..you didnt have any comments about my previos post..may be you have at this one...if you belive that the germans should disband the roumanian army ..spreding the troops among the germans units...what do you belive they should do with the 250.000 hungarians...or the entire 8 italian army...who where a lot worse that the roumanians divizions..

[@drunio1504]

Hitler began WW2 fully aware his forces didn't have the resources / logistics needed to fight a long war. He gambled on a short campaign in the east and lost. His staff had given him a well detailed preparedness report [ I've forgotten who the authors were]. He was the best asset the Allies possessed.

[@gyozop]

The Germans and the Soviet knew it both that armistice would not last. However the beginning of 1941 German intel warned of a rapid build up of forces on the border in Poland and Moldavia. They reacted as fast as they could and surprised the Soviet just in time. 6 million Soviets were lost within months who just happened to be parking next to the Germans.

[@remy12]

You would think the Germans would get proper winter gear for their soldiers after what happen the previous winter in the Moscow campaign.

[@chonpincher]

The narrator voicing-over for the Romanian general Dumitrescu is doing a pretty good imitation of a Russian accent.

[@Outdoorified]

Indeed, considering Romanian is a Latin language and has nothing to do with Russian 😅

[@nemiw4429]

0:36 can anyone explain?

[@digitalcommunist6335]

Bravo!

[@Serby665]

Romania be like: "Germoney, halp. Russian bias. OP T34 + unlimited resources cheat = roflstomp" Germany be like: "Lol no, git gud" Romania: "eff this, gg, im out" But seriously, lots of men tried their best to fight with what little they had in a hostile environment, and were either crushed on the spot, surrounded and starved of food and ammunition, only to end up dead, or on their way to death in a Russian gulag.

[@karrole88]

The last time you said you are working of operation Bagration, can you please update us on when you are going to post it?

[@Armageddon4145]

I updated you several times in the Community section, change of course 2 months ago. Bagration is now rescheduled in about 6 months from now

[@karrole88]

@@Armageddon4145 oh you did, It seems I was not paying attention to details, anyway thank you the reply.

[@philipryan25]

Thank You

[@deeppurple883]

Could the high command have given everything that Palus asked for. If so why not. If they had would it have made any difference.

[@Novac_Alexandru]

With all of my respect I can say that doing these kind of videos isn't simple, I am proud to see that there are some people like you dedicating their time doing quality content and also detalied on a specific front. Romania overall had a weak armed force inferior to the Soviet one, we were outnumbered, unequipped, a bad supply line, most of our units weren't mechanized and they were still using horses, our anti-tank couldn't even destroy the new T-34 Soviet tank and Romania really needed German aid regarding equipment, units and supplies. There were desperate times in Romanian history, being a theater of war for the world super powers and being exploited. Romania never had wars of expansions we had defensive wars and we tried to do whatever it takes to fight for our nation.

[@rodjarrow6575]

Romania never had wars of expansions? Ha! You had defensive wars and you tried to do whatever it takes to fight for our nation...? Are the southern Black Sea regions of Ukraine (Odessa) the territory of your nation? I remind you that during the Second World War, the Romanian administration managed the occupied lands of the Northern Black Sea region in Ukraine

[@cristianm7097]

All countries invaded and captured territories in history

[@Novac_Alexandru]

@@rodjarrow6575 We had it in occupation, we didn't had as intention taking that ground. Our intention was to liberate Bessarabia but we had to collaborate with Germany in the conflict to show loyalty.

[@rodjarrow6575]

@@Novac_Alexandru You are mistaken, or you are lying! Because: 1) Bessarabia (Moldova) this is not Romania (just like Slovakia is not the Czech Republic, although very similar!) 2) Odessa, actually a small Israel, is almost a full Jewish town in which there was no mass extermination of Jews and deportation to concentration camps during the war, because Odessa, along with the Northern Black Sea region, was supposed to be a colony of Romania according to Romania's agreement with Hitler, so there was a Romanian administration in Odessa during the war. This is the only positive fact of Romania's presence as an ally of Germany on the eastern front. Everything else was not positive. Alas! All of Hitler's allies on the eastern front were participants in the war to occupy foreign territory. In fact, during the war, every second soldier of Hitler on the eastern front was not a German by nationality! This is a fact of the statistics of prisoners taken by the Red Army. In fact, unlike the Western Front, almost all of Western and Central Europe was a participant in the invasion of USSR (under the general leadership of Hitler)... as another repetition of the ancient Northern Crusades of the "Onslaught on the East" ("Drang Nach Osten") 3) Today, Western propaganda is trying to blind the culprit of World War II exclusively in the image of two Hitler and Stalin, ignoring the fact that the war would not even have begun without: a) Anglo-American oil supplies to Hitler (the Anglo-American Shell and Standard Oil Consortium owned all Romanian oil production); b) As an analogue of the modern EU, the entire economy of Western and Central Europe worked for Hitler during World War II against the USSR until the summer of 1944

[@Novac_Alexandru]

@@rodjarrow6575 Bessarabia was ethnically Romanian, the tradition of the region has some similarities as Romania. You can't compare Slovakia with Czech since there is a difference between their situation and Bessarabia with Romania. If you might not know the situation in detail you shouldn't spread disinformation. We collaborated with Germany, due that Romania was in a bad spot during that time, we lost major territories and our national integrity was in danger, so we wanted good relationship with Germany so we could have our national integrity secured from the Soviets that wanted even more territories that were owned by Romania including the snake islands. We had an administration in Odessa but we didn't had that as intention. And I could say that Antonescu didn't had something personal with the jews, he even tried to save some of them. If you are ethnically Ukrainian I understand you're supporting your nation but that doesn't mean you should spread disinformation

[@danielgreen3715]

Interesting episode ..Seems like there was a sleight of hand here and the soviets took advantage of the situation

[@inraid]

the maps presented are barely readable

[@danfilon3349]

the Romanian armies were there out of the express desire of the German army ... they didn't have supply logistics .... basically my grandfather who was at the don code then said ... we have 5 bullets each soldier ... if we fired one and not I was bringing a Russian corpse, it was a court martial ... I had no means of anti-tank with which to stop a tank ... despite numerous reports of ammunition and the concentration of enemy Russian troops, the Germans had no reaction. So it was only a matter of time ...

[@priatalat]

All the Romanians needed was some decent panzers, and they would’ve been able to halt the Soviets. Germany’s distrust of their allies caused this.

[@Mr_Fu_Manchu]

Antonescu did send to the Eastern front poorly equipped and trained troops which were blown away by the Soviet army and its T-34s like leaves in the storm. Now, you take the responsibility for a front sector you respond for it.

[@lorinewton5181]

I don't see why the Romanian army would have had the doctrine, training, logistics or armor to fight so very far from home against a completely unexpected enemy.

[@Mr_Fu_Manchu]

@@lorinewton5181 Romanian high command did new very well what we're up against and should not send troops there unprepared and unequipped.

[@surducalexandru9553]

@@Mr_Fu_Manchu.. Read a book before you post something.. You are completatly lost.. Roumanian 3rd amy was well train by germans for about a whole year.. Was decent equipt for fighting against infantery... But have serios problems in AT and AA equipment... That the germans where better equiped.???sure...but they wehere better equiped that the france or enghlish soldiers.. They prove that in operation Uranus.. When the russian where incapabile to brake the line until they trow in combat hundred of tanks..

[@danielandrone8795]

1.Do you know why the Romanians went to fight whith USSR? 2.Do you know who asked for the Romanians to be there? 3.Do you know from whom Romanians taken that sector ? 4.do you know that the Romanians informed the 6th army about the soviet build up ? 5.do you know that they asked for German assistance to eliminate a soviet bridge head for a better defence and didn't get help ? 6th was like "yes, you are right, do as you consider, but don't ask for troops, because we don't have.... You wrote a comment just to occupied your time....

[@Mr_Fu_Manchu]

@@danielandrone8795 Deci, după tine, daca cineva te forțează sa faci ceva tu nu mai ai nicio responsabilitate? Indiferent de situația in care l-a pus Hitler, Antonescu era responsabil fata de soldații lui pe care i-a sacrificat cu sânge rece in numele unei datorii oarbe si stupide si obligații asumate pe viata si sănătatea altora! Cunosc foarte bine, poate mai bine decât dumneata, ce s-a întâmplat acolo si prostia si ambițiile lui Hitler nu îl scutesc pe Antonescu de vina!

[@surducalexandru9553]

@Armageddon ..you didnt have any comments about my previos post..may be you have at this one...if you belive that the germans should disband the roumanian army ..spreding the troops among the germans units...what do you belive they should do with the 250.000 hungarians...or the entire 8 italian army...who where a lot worse that the roumanians divizions..

[@Armageddon4145]

It's the German Command that said so, all dialogues are quoted from memoirs

[@surducalexandru9553]

@@Armageddon4145 this was your own coment to a post.. Your personal opinion... Is not from the clip

[@РафаэльХанов-ф3ъ]

Девочки не ссорьтесь...в любом случае русские намотали бы ваши косички на штык...😂

[@lawLess-fs1qx]

Romanians were tough, attacking tanks with grenages & Molotovs. Twenty pak40 guns in depth at each bridgehead would have stopped the tanks dead against the 3rd Army. Hitler lost the war because they couldn't supply 40 - 100 Pak guns to the Romanians. No wonder he was an insomniac after Stalingrad.

[@AdmiralStickney]

Hitler sounds like German Vegeta and I love it. However he did not sound like that at all.

[@Kannot2023]

At Stalingrad died 100k romanian soldiers, in the whole war Romania lost 500k by death 500k wounded or prisoniers.

[@РафаэльХанов-ф3ъ]

Румынам надо научиться делать ставку...на правильную лошадь😂

[@thorfahrendorf809]

Great jawb

[@RyanKeriger-qt2pq]

I can't believe the Romania army's were single out so much as to blame for the encirclement. When I've read the Italians were just as bad if not worse than some of the Romanian divisions

[@rebelusa6585]

Romania, hungaria, italy, just gave german a false sense of security.

[@katenpp]

You are producing incredible videos, I`ve watched many of them and have always found them very informative and well made. But please please stop with the accents.. It`s almost impossible to watch you latest videos because of the overdone fake German/Russian accents. These people don`t even talk like this.. Really, there is no gain from the accents, and I personally would find the narration much better without them. Best regards

[@Armageddon4145]

Thanks a lot Katya! But there aren't any foreign accents in the Uranus series, you know...

[@MrCealicuca]

@@Armageddon4145 actually, you or someone did the Dumitrescu reading English accent. No offense, the video is amazing and I appreciate your work a lot. Take it as constructive criticcism please - Romanians don't speak English with that accent. I think it's a lot safer to NOT try to immitate - it may lead to unintentional stereotyping, and detract from an otherwise amazing oiece of content 🙂

[@vladibalan]

@@Armageddon4145 I could do without the accents honestly. But overall, good work.

[@TheYeti308]

I suspect if the entire line was manned by the German No major victory by the Sowjet .

[@AlexanderXVIIII]

Yeah, with antitank guns, tanks, and equivalent numbers of soldiers on both sides, yeah the frontline could have been held. But there were just under 200.000 Romanian troops holding two huge frontlines north and south of Stalingrad which the Germans thought the Soviets would not attack any time soon.

[@MrQ454]

"Guess" wrong! even with the same number of Germans, such an attack could not be resisted. The main problems were the insufficient number to cover so many km of the front, the lack of reserves. I don't see how the same number of Germans could have stopped the tanks that could penetrate through the inevitable wide holes at such distances, the only ones that could oppose such a thing were armored formations that could quickly block the breaches created by the Soviet tanks.

[@TheYeti308]

@@MrQ454 Nothing against the Romanians, BUT , had the G D R been in that sector, There would be a lot of crumpled up Sowjet equipment and K I A .

[@MrQ454]

@@TheYeti308 Dream on! there were German formations that fell to much easier attacks, the Americans that had much better conditions (better weapons, more ammunition and more fuel, better balance of power) succumbed much faster to the battle of Bulges It has been mentioned here several times what the causes were, but it seems that you have not understood anything. Only if there were significant reserves of tanks that could have stopped any breaches made by Soviet tanks could the siege have been stopped, as well as if the demands of the Romanian commanders to eliminate the Soviet bridgeheads had been met.

[@TheYeti308]

@@MrQ454 OH OK !

[@richardvolbrecht2935]

The narration is of zero value when the camera is constantly scanning over a map with 100's of tiny size notes. Often the narration notes geographic names that thee map does NOT SHOW

[@jayo3074]

Lmao that Hitler voice killed me

[@CostiCosti-cr8wf]

How many romanians died in this operation ?

[@РафаэльХанов-ф3ъ]

Более 100 000...

[@bookaufman9643]

Two things. Number one why have to narrators? Number two why does the American narrator keep saying kilometer that way? It's driving me crazy.

[@Armageddon4145]

The main one wasn't available for that part, so had to call another, otherwise you'd have waited 2 weeks more for the video

[@weilandiv8310]

Outstanding. The Russian voices appear to remind me of the reds I was raised to dislike.

[@kaywilliams5268]

It was no ones fight only the Germans, the rest were not that interested, not so committed!

[@antonceta1]

They were supposed to send Roses 🌹 instead of Romanians at least they have thorns

[@pat8988]

Well, I wanted to like this, but all those inscrutable maps are worthless for a non-Russian speaking person who knows nothing about the military symbols.

[@Armageddon4145]

Noted.