Were you wonderfully made or a product of nothing?

Are we merely a product of random chances that pop into existence out of nothing? or evidence is pointing towards a God? #logic #facts ##creationism
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[@landsgevaer]

That is 3 minutes of my life lost.

[@zerodreamidea]

The theist will state: "Everything must come from something!" And then when asked: "Where did your god come from?" The theist will then claim that god is the UNCREATED (thus literally coming from NOTHING) Creator. This is special pleading. This logic is the proof that god does NOT exist. Also, if you think the universe is too complex and must have a creator then why don't you understand that any god would be even more complex then the universe itself? Shouldn't such a complex entity need a creator as well? And then that creator and so on until you have infinite creators with no end in sight!

[@coolumesque]

God shows me the future every day & so it's like I am constantly being awoken by buckets of ice water being thrown over me as everything God shows me will happen does happen as I'm going about my normal every day life. God has always visited me & given me thousands of journeys to heavens & hells etc & I could easily pass all that off as some form of creation of the subconscious. But showing me the future constantly & it all coming true is absolute & unshakable proof to me that God is real. God has always taken me to Their realm which is full of people & all forms of life, & shown me an ocean there & all the life forms in it. God demonstrates how They create many universes from Their auric light in that ocean & then God takes me to walk on the new earths that were just created. God then shows me how our own universe is one of those universes in Their ocean & God makes me swim through Their ocean to our earth & walk ashore. And God constantly manifests while I am on earth & pulls me out of the light our world is made from & I instantly find myself under the waters of God's ocean; which is a thick sweet water that tastes like incense. I have read many reports of God taking other people into Their ocean to teach them that our earth is fully beneath the waters of that ocean. Genesis also says God created the universe in Their ocean where it remained when creation was finished. Genesis also says God brought birds & life in all its forms forth from the waters but it gives the impression that God created life in the earth's oceans from nothing when in fact God brought life through from Their own ocean into ours & it came ashore. Far ancient religions from all over the earth show the same thing in their art. So it's clear to me that The Bible & its description of creation is missing vital facts about God & this is the reason there is so much argument about evolution & a magical sky daddy etc. Life on earth came from life in God's realm & ocean & life has always existed just as God has always existed. There's no magic involved it is just that the universe is holographic & made from light in God's ocean, & there are real dimensions around our universe that the people in the holographic universe cannot perceive with their holographic senses & instruments. Life simply came through from dimensions that are outside of mans ability to perceive & there was no magic involved. It's simply God using more dimensions & natural powers than we know about to create universes & worlds naturally. If people meditate & open their minds to the spirit world they will meet God & God will take them to Their dimensions & show them how creation is made. Have a great day

[@gknight4719]

Well lucky you, obviously god is spending too much time with you, so it does not have time to HELP the 15,000 children from dying ever day, most of them from malaria it made! but he loves children??

[@glenliesegang233]

The suffering of children still does not make hardly any of us give up our day jobs and go relieve it, unless that is your day job. I have cared for sick children with cancer, meningitis, sickle cell disease, diabetes. Anger towards God would have made me less able to be fully present with them in their suffering. And, to teach them to be angry at God would have decreased their ability to have joy in their limited time and coping with suffering. So, had I adopted your attitude, the c world would be a darker place. Evolution demands that bad things happen to good creatures. Sorry how God lets his creation run itself with minimal intervention according to natural processes which support life for billions of children without malaria, leads you to focus on the 1 in 1000 with. The systems of Earth are life giving and life-sustaining. 92% good things to 8% bad is quite favorable odds for a "hands-off system," especially if the timeless period after life more than compensates for the suffering here and now, and is actually better than anything here.

[@gknight4719]

The "burden of proof" is on the one that makes the claim, atheism is like a "none stamp collector" secondly the human body is full of bad design like the laryngeal nerve, the crossing of the wind pipe and the food pipe it can be a killer!

[@glenliesegang233]

If God lets the universe take care of itself 99.9999% of the time, and let evolution handle most of the adaptation, but guided events like Chixulub, and inserted orphan genes (ones which have no homologies anywhere in previous genomes, ?72 found in drosophila (fruit fly) and without which radical changes in body plan like caterpillar to butterfly, are impossible) then who are we to complain about the lousy design of the human body?

[@gknight4719]

@@glenliesegang233 Where do i start, did your god create malaria, that has killed more the wars? tsunamis killed 250,000 20 years ago, earthquake got 46,000 Turks recently. you do not want to be near a supernova exploding star! children are raped to death while your loving god does not help, and you love this monster?