West Point Inspection SCIDM Pt 1

United States Military Academy at West Point competes in the inspection phase of the SCIDM 2010 drill competition

[@timrobinson55]

2 reasons. 1) They are on a parade deck run by Marines and will afford them Marine Corps courtesies 2) The Marines are attempting to break their bearing

[@Pax217man]

Soon as I saw all the other DI's coming in I was like..."awwww SNAP here it comes..."

[@RoundenBrown]

USMC DI #1: Since when does West Point wear capris? USMC DI #2: That's my question. USMA CDT: I do not, sir.

[@lfearthereaper8725]

Lol I love how they make these army cadets say "aye aye sir"

[@docmayhem8166]

lfearthereaper lmao I am Army and we got sharked by some USMC DIs. If they want something done you do it as quickly as possible -1 second. Much respect to them from the Army

[@AJ-ix1je]

Former Marine Sgt here. The key word is cadets. Marine DIs are addressed as Sir or Ma'am until your earn the right to address them by rank or grade. As a student or recruit, until you have your EGA or your services insignia, you don't rate to addresss them as anything other than Sir.

[@Kings_1K]

Clearly you don't understand, I learned this from the past video from a Marine. The DI was playing mind games with the cadet, if the cadet were to say "Aye, Aye Sir" he would've gotten chewed out more. The DI was proud that he was standing by his branch and duties.

[@jeffreyjohn2037]

Marine Drill Instructors are the best! I graduated from Parris Island, 1980 🇺🇸

[@CP025129]

Any cadet saying Aye Aye let himself get punked. The DIs loved that. Proper response was to cite the manual governing Army tradition and appropriate responses to an order. Then stick to it to the death.

[@phuckerpower]

The rest of the platoon were probably like "Oh fuck there's more of them!"

[@dieselmech89ful]

Funny as hell watching Army Cadets saying Aye sir.

[@vaughnyboy8]

When six more DIs enter the pad 😳😳😳

[@jamescowan1100]

Love all US military, but just wanted to say, GO ARMY!!!

[@tamird0906]

Ahaaaa army cadets being forced to scream aye sir🤣 i love it

[@XiaoFury]

YES........SIR!

[@wolcans159]

yes........Sir

[@Arathor82]

3:39 sharks in the water.

[@VxMAX]

Okay, if I was a cadet in that drill team, I clearly just heard my Captain say we're not subjected to saying "Aye aye Sir" so my responses would be "YES SIR" or "NO SIR". THAT'S IT!

[@kevinphillips150]

Attention to detail. Who is in charge of the inspection? Since it is a Marine Corps inspection, Marine Corps rules dictate responses. Plus, the lead inspector instructed the unit commander in what is expected (the proper response[s]).

[@Brecconable]

@@kevinphillips150 This is the US Military Academy, they are subject to Army Regulations, and Cadets rank above enlisted but below Warrant Officers.

[@spiceytaco95]

Usually aye aye sir is used when you are given a direct order and you acknowledge and will preform yes sir usually is like if someone asks you if you understand a question.

[@kevinphillips150]

Like the difference between a 'direct order' and a 'lawful order'?

[@faithofjudas]

You're welcome to try.

[@13rapidvictory]

ahhh the memories!!!

[@michaeledlin9995]

It was fun had already heard it all my life at 17. They couldn't do or say anything that hadn't already been done.

[@molanlabexm15]

Cookie and Cupcakes. So sweet.

[@ace2u2003]

It is the way west point trains. they have to answer in that way just like just each different branch has a different way of answering a question.

[@jonpuc1]

Favorite line of the whole video are those Capris?

[@Bojazzki]

Btw, if you ask for an inspection team of Marine Drill Instructors, they will behave like...Marine Drill Instructors. Imagine that. The organizers of the event knew exactly what they were going to subject those cadets to. It was probably the whole point of that. Been on the recieving end of those inspections at Parris Island back in the day. Just warms my heart to see that LOL !

[@blackhawkroger]

I am not in the military but i notice after the DI went for weapons inspection, a Marine talks to the cadet commander pretty softly and the DI didn't get upset with him when he kept on saying Yes sir instead of aye aye sir

[@chrisarnold769]

They are not in an E5 grade for rank or pay. Cadet is an actual rank by regulation, and it falls between Warrant Officer and Enlisted. The pay grade is "special" according to AR600-20.

[@MonthManAugust]

6, count em, 6 sharks, over!

[@3533grl]

heh, I find the Capris comment priceless. As we all know, when you have put on a little weight you tend to wear your pants higher, causing those regulation length pants to sit a little higher on your corframs. In all honesty though that swarm of DI's just made me sigh a little smile of joy. You can't beat memories of getting shredded in a sandpit and the "oh shit" pucker factor when they all descend on you like a cloud of locusts.

[@Rogue_Paramedic]

If they haven't been commissioned yet, I don't think it applied.

[@LiouTao]

Um, Rank does not equal Billet. If the cadets were placed under the NCO's command for inspection, then the NCO's billet supercedes the Cadets rank. Billet supercedes rank, ALWAYS.

[@kevinphillips150]

A rank provides a Marine an additional duty since certain additional duties require certain ranks. As in being a Drill Instructor. The Drill Instructor is either going to be a Sergeant or Staff Sergeant. Gunnery Sergeants and above instruct the Sergeant to become a Drill Instructor. Besides, cadets are not officially on active duty status while Drill Instructors are.

[@condorc72]

Bull#%$

[@BranditoT]

at least we got our own school

[@LiouTao]

But then, there's still the Drill Evaluation rules. Depending on the requirements in the evaluation, it would still decide if they failed or not.

[@Kil1873]

After the command ready front isn't he supposed to give the command say cover? Just wondering.

[@Chadkirkdc]

Ok, so here's my .02. Good on the team commander for trying to have the integrity for sticking to his "guns" so to speak. However, there comes a time that you have to adapt to your environment, and do what needs to be done to accomplish the mission within boundaries. As soon as the DI's saw this guy was wound up tight, he became cannon fodder, as did his troops. Marines adapt and overcome. That was what these DI's were waiting to see, and why they pushed harder. There's a method to the madness.

[@JoseGonzalez-yb7om]

Marines are Warriors, cadetes are kids.

[@faithofjudas]

So did you quit bootcamp before you hit the yellow footprints? or did you last a few weeks before you pussed out?

[@chrismw884]

I don’t see why everyone is having beef in between branches . If I ever have to lay down my life for another soldier, marine, or airmen on the battlefield I would, I don’t give a shit who thinks who is better. We all represent that American flag that has been flying high since the beginning of our country. Now I get the competitiveness between branches. It’s just like brothers giving each other shit. But when it comes down to it they all have each others back!!!🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@KingAusarII]

chrismw88 Its just that: a sibling rivalry; we all give each other shit, even though we’re the same family

[@jcaldwell96]

For those wondering aye sir is a response to a command and yes sir is a response to a question.

[@USN1985dos]

ChixDig Gixxers Correction, in the Navy and Marine Corps that is true. For the Army and Air Force "aye aye" does not exist.

[@KlutchxResist]

"Aye sir" is a term only used by Marines and the Navy. Since these cadets are from West Point, an Army school, "Aye sir" is not something they say.

[@xdeadliestsin1314]

David A West Point is actually for the Army and Marine Corps.

[@KlutchxResist]

XDeadliestSin13 prospective Marine officers go to the Naval Academy

[@KlutchxResist]

XDeadliestSin13 Since the Marine Corps is a part of the Navy. Contrary to popular belief, the marines are NOT their own branch of service

[@MrNell84]

I feel ya pax it gave me jitters

[@paulbenedictalberca2957]

Looks cool and snappy, just like the Philippine Military Academy in Baguio city, Philippines. But its different.

[@spiceytaco95]

No problem =P

[@wtfispakdoing]

@specops24th That cadet is maintaining Army discipline. He simply refused to say "Aye Aye Sir". Also simply because the Army do not say "Aye Aye Sir".

[@tobinhobbs]

I quote Article 92 of the UCMJ (In pertinent part): “Any person subject to this chapter who- (2) having knowledge of any other lawful order issued by a member of the armed forces, which it is his duty to obey, fails to obey the order; shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

[@mrbusdriver]

Enlisted does not give orders...only directives.

[@wingman552]

@wtfispakdoing I'm a Marine, and I could respect that

[@faithofjudas]

Oh you figured out how to use google maps finally? That's an important first step. It's like an 8 hour drive, and I know you'll need to get your magical powers ready, so I expect to see you sometime tomorrow afternoon.

[@crazyfreakypunk]

@AiMhgsmith2 Uhh that's the point of being a drill team. Not all cadets are in the drill team and certainly do not act like robots out in the field. Every drill team I've ever seen perform are like robots, from every JROTC branch to the Marine Corps. silent drill platoon, they are supposed to act like robots to keep a uniform discipline. They have to perform like this because this is an inspection. It's not like they are going to apply drill and ceremonies to field situations.

[@tobinhobbs]

@RNJuiceable Do you mean AR 600-20?

[@NoobyIntellect]

That robot is swimming in a whole pool of pay grades higher then you'd ever be.

[@Handsomeshrek]

I would shit myself if i was surrounded by so many smokey bears

[@dw053408]

@BrianT175 you seem to have been confused by my post as we are in total agreement about protocol. the point i was making was that any cadet that switched to 'aye aye' failed his squad which was exactly what the dis were trying to intimidate them into doing. once the dis broke the cadets focus, the rest descended upon them like vultures.

[@BrianT175]

@dw053408 Uhh no, a quick search of other SCIDM videos show that the DIs harassing the cadets is typical. He is not obligated to say, "aye aye, sir" as he is not a sailor or a Marine.

[@1TayD7]

@blackhawkroger Yes sir is a response when asked a yes or no question... Aye Aye sir is a response to confirm the execution of a direct order.

[@metaldude18]

@JAGMoose While yes they are on active duty status no they do not out rank anyone....they are cadets who have not been commisioned yet and cadet is not a military rank. They make the pay of an O-1 but they don't rate anything else that goes along with the actual rank of O-1

[@BellPhnes]

USMA CDT: I am acting as command Sir USMC DI: acting? your not acting, your FAILING IT!

[@faithofjudas]

no, I mentioned the purple heart and combat experience because you claimed I had done nothing.. And no, we're not the only country that gives out feel good medals. Pretty much every military does just that.

[@tobinhobbs]

Agree with your statement 100%. This is at the Southern California Invitational Drill Meet, which cannot confer a DoD billet. So the Marine lacks any billet authority. There were not orders attaching the USMA drill team to this Marine's unit whatever it may be.

[@faithofjudas]

Are you going to put a spell on me with your magical powers?

[@randomikey5678]

3:39 If I was in that paltoon and that started happeningI woul seriously start to tense up and get scared.

[@BojanglesJCabin]

the way the unit leader says "yes sir" makes it seem like he has a damn speech impediment.

[@MavrikUSMC]

They should have followed the example of their Commander, when ordered to say it, it would behoove you to do so.

[@faithofjudas]

no. Do you ever do the things you say you're going to do?

[@thebeast56445]

what are you talking about?

[@DocHellfish]

Air force calls NCO's sir..

[@kdubyaw3246]

Those Marine Drill Instructors sound like Daffy Duck on helium. Army Drill Sergeants have a booming, command voice. GO ARMY BEAT NAVY

[@Gameboyycolor1]

Pog boot fuck

[@VxMAX]

@AiMhgsmith2 Excuse me? As a Drill Team Commander, I have to disagree. They work as a team so hell, when they do something they do it all together and very precise. We're all the same in the end. Marines, Army, Air Force, Navy whatever your nation has, they are still soldiers and officers.

[@SadethCheng]

When Marine recruits go through boot camp, they address their DIs and other Marines as "sir/ma'am". After they complete boot camp and become Marines, then they stop addressing NCOs as sir/ma'am in the same manner as the other services.

[@MrTurtleVince]

seems like they got it easy...

[@metaldude18]

@khalsasikh oh yeah thats right....my bad

[@Estornellmv]

I'm surprised they let him get away with saying "I."

[@kevinphillips150]

It was an open military inspection; not recruit training.

[@smokeeater722]

Shark ATTACK!!!!

[@faithofjudas]

Except I'm not, and even if I was, you specifically said you'd do it. All talk, no action.

[@DocHellfish]

And Army Regulations do not apply to the Marine Corps.

[@kevinphillips150]

Except when dealing with that branch on their terms. When a Marine is at an Army school, Army regulations take effect as well as Marine regulations.

[@faithofjudas]

Contracting pays better.

[@grayhog2012]

@AaronfromWM Guess im an idot. I guess the writers of AR600-25 are too....

[@DocHellfish]

Which is also unenforceable on marines..

[@natrone23]

Why is that boot wearing highwaters?

[@faithofjudas]

What about killing me though? 4 times you said you would.

[@vluu1991]

Holy fuck, that's a lot of senior drill instructors...

[@canalzonebratt90]

Poor Army Cadets being drilled by Marines... They must want to cry... Makes me happy

[@83usmc2111]

ouch !!! 5 hats versus a small platoon from henry hudson high(yes im from n.y. its ok)not good odds reminds me of me in boot camp the cadets did a great job of holdin it together.

[@6tuf85dyfu]

he was fucked the second he tried to argue that his trousers were in regs. Yes, they rest atop the corframs with not more than one break. The rear also rests 1/4" above the heel. His tailor fucked up and he didn't realize it for how long? Everyone else in his platoon has their trousers properly maintained.

[@LiouTao]

Not unless the cadets are under the NCO's chain of command, if that's the case then rank doesn't matter at all. Also, AR 600-20 does not apply to USMC.

[@Brecconable]

AR 600-20 does however apply to USMA.

[@junkyard10311]

wow. thats intense, id flip on them.

[@faithofjudas]

Nor did I ever imply military equipment/operations are inexpensive. In fact, that's an argument in my favor, not yours. Contractors are cheaper, even with the higher salaries. Contractors don't build up pensions, medical coverage, require training, stateside housing, family benefits, etc etc. They also only get paid while they're working. Whereas troops get paid even in peacetime. And you're right, I was nothing before the Marines, because I was 18... also "anyways" isn't a word.

[@tobinhobbs]

AR 600-20 says VERY differently. Look it up. Table 1.1.

[@Chev427BB]

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[@ARMON180]

You do what the inspecting officer tells you to do, it's not about Marines vs Army or any of that crap. Just like if a Army Drill Sergeant inspects an Air Force unit at the Drill Sergeant's preference you respond Yes Drill Sergeant!! at the top your lungs. This is in invitational drill meet (SCIDM), if they aren't willing to be flexible than they should't accept the invitation plain and simple. This is coming from a Marine and a former AFJROTC cadet.

[@cellblock131]

branches use different voice inflection. surprised you didn't know that.

[@Bojazzki]

I posted this in a similar video: Aye Aye Sir...is used in the Navy and Marine Corps as a response to an order or instruction. It means "Order understood AND will be carried out". Yes Sir and No Sir are used to answer questions that require a yes or no answer. There is a difference. Also, the cadets have no rank outside their own corps of cadets, therefore, they are subject to the orders of the Inspection team.

[@faithofjudas]

You said you'd come kill, I offered my address, and you backed out. internet toughguy.

[@faithofjudas]

Why do you need my name?

[@faithofjudas]

OH SHIT INTERNET THREATS! I live in Willoughby Ohio, come at me bro.

[@RNJuiceable]

He could have nullified all criticism if he knew 670-1. I encourage all cadets/recruits to know regs inside/out.

[@fr8542]

His team didn't back him up.

[@tobinhobbs]

But the UCMJ, on which AR 600-20 is based, absolutely is. Sorry if it hurts your pride, but USMA cadets outrank enlisted personnel, DoD-wide. It's just a fact.

[@jesuso2588]

Tobin Hobbs you're out of your mind.

[@muchpandassowow9726]

Tobin Hobbs they're not even commissioner. They're borderline civilian

[@Brecconable]

@@muchpandassowow9726 Table 1-1 says otherwise.

[@chrisarnold769]

Unless you know something more than can be seen in this video, that's a unnecessarily hasty/inappropriate conclusion. Seems they're doing a fine job to me.

[@mrmotormouth]

this is so beautiful. for 15 minutes army cadets get a small taste of what marines taste for three months.

[@Brecconable]

Except these Army cadets are used to it as they have it for 4 years.

[@13rapidvictory]

3:30....... and like a plague the DI's came in!

[@PilotRyan1533]

Army Cadet saying Aye Aye sir? Thats a point loss, only Maritime branches say Aye Aye.

[@blakrain5156]

PilotRyan1533 it’s the criteria of the inspection so the cadet lost points not only that they lost the competition

[@Bojazzki]

Late response but....I think you misunderstand the 'lambs to the slaughter' comment. I believe that comment refers to the Marine DI's lighting those poor cadets up, not as in 'going to war to die'.

[@chrisarnold769]

Disregard my earlier correction. You're apparently just trying to stir the pot.