Western Snow Plow Review

[@JoshBeards]

What's so hard about their controller? It's the same controller on my Fisher XV2. I can run the controller and shift at the same time. Yes I plow with a 5 speed. It's the only way to plow. Scoop? Push the scoop button. Retract? Push the retract button. In V mode and want to wind row? First push of the either wing button is always forward. In scoop and want to wind row? Push that wing button twice. I've hung the damn controller on the mirror hanging upside down facing away and ran the controls while I plowed. What's so hard about buttons with the command written on them? Can't memorize a couple simple buttons or commands?

[@jasonbeaulieu4979]

i agree, you can't fix stupid i guess

[@JoshBeards]

jason beaulieu no you can't, but somehow stupid can make a video bragging about said stupidity and be proud.

[@dillardm15]

I was just gonna say this controller is way better than the joy stick

[@michaelkey8424]

Some people just can't figure out how to use a plow. This guy obviously has issues figuring out simple controls as western is extremely easy to use. I like boss better simply because it fits my hand better but nothing to do with the buttons.

[@dillardm15]

Michael Key I haven't used boss alot my boss runs Fisher but the buttons are definitely easy to use on any plow

[@jaybrown29]

I bought a wideout this year. I have 2 other straight blades. Never again will I buy a straight blade. The wideout is a must for open area plowing. I love ❤️ it. Even cleaning.up the ends of the driveways is better. The scoop helps so much. 10/10

[@Dirtmonkey]

I have a C scoop which is kind of like a wideout- Love mine!

[@vttrucker]

Used to plow commercially with a fisher ez-vee for about 10 years. Good mix of pavement and gravel driveways, 85 drives 2 roads about 4 miles total. Went through cutting edges pretty fast, had to do something. Had a metal shop make up new edges out of AR 400 steel and doubled my edge. I plowed commercially on those edges for another 8 years. Still have same edges now on same plow. 14 years on same edges.

[@abclawnworks9127]

Wow - 4 years now with the Pro Plus 8' straight blade and the blade is still really good, minimal wear

[@j.l.truckingandlandscaping2097]

Have you ever used fisher? I have the fisher v plow it has the same messed up controller tho.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+J.L. Landscaping and property maintenance I have never used a Fischer Plow. Sounds like a lot of people like them though.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Avery Vanderkuip Good Info- Thanks Avery!

[@williambowler1801]

i use those same exact controller on fisher and its a very confortable and simple to use

[@levilemon1518]

yes I agree, I actually looked at the wide out and the Prodigy plow both of them look great and love to have either plow.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Levi Lemon Yes- I would love to trade this one in for a wide-out.

[@jamesnm21]

Why the V plows over an extendable wing plow? Easier transport?

[@herbhaddox6820]

Stan need your help real quick I'm new to this whole snow game. I'm only residential atm say I have a walk or even a two car driveway but there's already been traffic on it and it's interfering with my shovel or snow pusher. Will tossing some salt waiting a minute and going back at it again help loosen it up and easier on my back ?

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Haddox Hardscapes & Landscaping Yes- hard pack(thats the technical term for snow that is driven over and turns to ice) requires salt to loosen up. Watch the SIMA video with Charles Glossop I made. Salt only functions at certain temperatures! If it gets to cold-salt stops melting ice and requires an additive to activate it. Crazy but true. Here is your solution for hardpack. Throw down Salt- wait at least 30 minutes-give it time and then plow. Try to do this during the warmest part of the day.

[@d42kn355]

Where do you have it adjusted on the 3 hole A-frame? It almost looks as if the bite is at too steep of an angle. Just my own thought on it. I work at a Truck Eqp. Co. and we're a distro in WI for Western (well, D.D. in general, Western, Fisher, etc. )

[@dianaburghduf1603]

I have a 40 year old Meyer that came off a mid 70's Dodge Sno-Commander. Hydro pump belt drive, two yellow knobs on the dash, push-pull. Oh,its on an 84 F250 with a NP435 creeper gear 4 speed. Been great since 2002. Spend 8 hours in that plowing never ending MI lake effect and I bet you wouldnt mind the Western. also cutting edge wear is the result of improper initial set-up. Better luck 18/19 brother.

[@patugejv]

good info Stanley. I have ran western straight plows a lot with the push button controls. They were fine. I see your point on the v plow button controller. That cutti g edge should not be a problem and the rep should have taken care of it. Did you forward this video to the rep?

[@Dirtmonkey]

+patugejv Not sent this to the rep- I want to see how they handle it first. Then I will be releasing an update other response.

[@BigDadx4]

how do you track your guys? times, etc? do you suggest dash cams for insurance purposes?

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Christopher Lankard We actually all plow on the same lot- about 1.6 million square feet. So I have three managers that help keep track of everything.

[@Pawinterservices]

How could anyone struggle with that controller? It's been out for 10 years and is mindless to use ?!

[@Dirtmonkey]

+PA Winter Services I have had a similar controller on our Western Straight blade- Great controller but the consensus in the company is this controller is confusing.

[@randy2812]

Hes just a cry baby.

[@OSDCrusher]

Anyone with a fully functioning brain could use that controller no problem

[@MarkWilliams-vp7xw]

I love the western/fisher controllers I had it down pat in about an hour

[@Hoefy88]

I ran Western and Hinker plows. Western is by far my fav. I can operate the Western controller not even thinking.

[@trastek92]

the controller used to have the separate buttons for the wings and the other 2 were vee or scoop, I'd be curious if the other buttons on your remote still function that way.

[@timberray9572]

I believe the mark of a quality product is the service you get and a willingness to stand behind their product and fix any problem that might arise.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Ray Duerksen I agree- and Western Dropped the ball with these 2 plows. If they had been willing to do anything- it would be different story.

[@jakeolson3978]

Did you sell one of those plows and then buy a western wideout??

[@musicbeforethetube5628]

I have been using the MVP3 for 6 winters now in south central Alaska and have far more issues than you are having so wanted to post a comment from that commercial perspective in a place where plowing happens over 7 months a year. Quick background, this plow is mounted to a 2013 F350 Dually and maintains 14 acres of parking lots and a 2.5 mile two-lane road. Like you, my first cutting blades lasted one season and actually bit into the lower frame 1/16th of an inch before replacements were available. -I opted for the 5/8 fischer branded replacements and they have lasted 2 years each. The pivot bar has been replaced twice (not cheap), the pivot pin has broken once and the collar on the replacement pivot bars have both required welding 1/2" plate steel onto for more sheer strength, the T frame broke this year requiring reinforcement angle iron to be welded to either side for better strength, the pipe supports between the blade ribs have all been welded numerous times from hairline cracks, the shoe kits kept falling off so I no longer run them due to the repeat expense, and last on the major repair list is the frame mounts have required several welds on both sides at bolt locations. The more minor list includes the rubber buttons breaking off the controller which are now held down by a fabric tape so it can still be used, the location of the hydraulic fluid reservoir is ridiculous, shouldn't have to need an adjustable throat funnel to access it, the deflectors do not keep snow from going over the plow at any speed due to the steep angle of the cutting edge... -This geometry might work better if the trip springs weren't so weak, when they deflect they also collect snow above the cutting edge creating a 'memory' of that steeper angle, the cheap plastic headlights have both broken from wobbling back and forth constantly. -While most plow lights are fairly weak anyway, these are very dark regardless of bulb type and made worse by collecting moisture from always breaking it's seal. This plow would probably last a home-owner a lifetime of just plowing a driveway or two but from my experience of actually working this plow hard: it just can't be considered commercial quality.

[@Ringlawncare]

All Boss V-Plows here & One Hiniker V-Plow....Controllers are great!!!! My son learned the Hiniker controller in 5 minutes...Thx for your review!!

[@Dirtmonkey]

+RING LAWN CARE I loved my Western Staright blade-but before that it was all Boss and Hiniker. The joystick is what I need.

[@Ringlawncare]

That is the 1st plow I ever had! 7'6" straight blade and I loved it!! But you are right about the controller on the MVP...Upgrade needed.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+RING LAWN CARE Thanks- with all the people on here telling me how great that wonky push button controller thing is It makes me think I'm getting screwy. Appreciate hearing others agree :)

[@MidwestAtvGroup]

thanks for the heads up, I'll keep my straight plow.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Hiniker C scoop is pretty awesome

[@Deuces22]

big mistake the western mvp 3 is the best plow on the market been plowing 45 years will cut your time by 60%

[@Liquidblueink]

How are the tires of the t u know not slipping and sliding everywhere???

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Liquidblueink The truck has 7,000 miles on it- the tires are still new. No slipping and sliding.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Liquidblueink No- the attack angle is off slightly. Just the fact of that though shouldn't burn through a blade.

[@silvercummins24]

I own four of the Western MVP3 9'6 plows . Love them and have not had any issues.

[@jamesbedell7261]

Hey Stanley, love your channel and content!!! So l have Operated the V blade plus for 2yrs and it’s was ok but l found it to be small and can’t scoop up too much snow. I ended up with two 8-10 wideout plows sold one because l wasn’t yawing it and now l’m kicking myself because l need a second plow. To review the wideout l love it!!! I can push 8-10 feet of snow l can scoop the ends and don’t lose any snow so l don’t have to do the job twice The controller works awesome I have one bad thing to about the Western wideout it’s dam expensive!!! I’m up here in Canada 🇨🇦 and a new wideout is over $13K!!!!!! That hurts the 💵💵 Oh well, Thanks for the content!!!!

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks James, I really appreciate you being here!

[@workingshlub8861]

i got an old diamond 8 foot straight blade...built like a tank.

[@capitalandlawns5405]

Plow was not set up properly from the shop.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+CapitalandLawns Installed on the Same truck, same plow, same shop, same time. Nose to nose the differences in the plows is very small but I do believe it could be an installation problem. I am not satisfied that a small adjustment could have such a big impact. My other 7 V plows never had this problem-even after decades of use.

[@timberlineoutdoorservices2338]

Hey Stan, I have a new wide out on f350 diesel...same control...same dual action on the wings function... I thought I was just losing my edge... "getting old".. Lol...as far as cutting edges I would suggest getting meticulous in setting the plow shoes and making adjustments as needed to take some of the brunt directly of the cut edge... That being said I somehow lost a shoe last storm... Pin slipped or the thing just broke. Biggest advantage of wide out is 10 foot straight and scoop... Also retracted for travel... Great video... I had no idea v blade cutting edge replacement was so much$

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Chris Smith This plow doesn't have shoes. Its not part of the design? In the past I have lost so many shoes and center pucks I just gave up and got used to cleaning up dribbles.

[@j.l.truckingandlandscaping2097]

Didn't you buy the plow last season? It only made $2,000? Did you stop using it or replace the edge many times?

[@Dirtmonkey]

+J.L. Landscaping and property maintenance I bought it December 04' We had no snow to plow. Maybe 4 or 5 small events.

[@lhc68]

that's why I buy cutting edges that towns and state dot uses. 5 years before they wear out

[@davidg9167]

Carbide is the way to go when you replace a cutting edge.

[@nickjohnson6181]

Another good one Stan..I have a 8ft straight sno-way plow I used for 4 yearsI put on a blizzard power plow (just like the wideout) by far the best designed plow. I can clear parking lots very fast. Look forward to comparison of the v and wideout

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Nick Johnson Those wideouts are amazing!

[@CountryGal_NS]

Stanley I find your videos both imformative and entertaining. if you live near a metal fab shop you can get them made. just take your worn out set and they can be copied likely for half the cost.i work at metal fab and we make them all the time. the more sets u get made the cheaper you will get them. its just as easy to make ten sets as one. u will only pay set up time on the first set . then u will get each added set at a shop rate plus material. cheers from nova scotia canada

[@Dirtmonkey]

+cakies722 Thank you!

[@bobbythoms2078]

If you dont reccomend buying the western plow what plow would you recconmend.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Honda Crf I don't like the western MVP-3- the other western models are Ok.

[@shutyoassup8377]

I run 4 mvp3s and 2 straight blades all from western and i have never had any problems with them

[@arthurnewman3483]

Hey Stan this is really late. But the cutting edge they put on that plow that the cutting edge was worn so severely was a low carbon steel blade and may have even been a thinner one at that . But I feel you should have seen that. Some how that regular steel blade was put on that plow

[@lawnfarmer9939]

Haven't tried em all, but I've had BOSS. Straight blades that, short of the occasional cylinder or hose or corroded wire issue , have been flawless for 15+ years, we keep the feet on and I've never even replaced a cutting edge, maybe twice after a real hard winter I've welded a crack that appeared but caused no failure- after those results I don't think I'll ever even try a different brand.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Lawnfarmer I love my Boss V plows and love the western Straight blade- This one though....

[@bradanderson3828]

I have the same controller. I got used to it pretty quickly. Agree with the cutting edge issue.

[@hudsonhawk0016]

The cutting edge wear issue may be due to Western using cheap or soft steel. Tire height is another factor in the bite angle of the plow. The old school Fisher speedcast plows didn't really have a cutting edge, only the trip edge that could be worn out in a season. The town highway department I worked for in my town would receive a new Fisher plow and immediately bolt a grader edge to it before putting it into service.

[@case2470tractor]

This review is BS! I own this plow, no problems at all! you don't like the controller? if your going to scoop just hit the scoop button! the buttons for individual wing movement is for when you come to the end of your push and dont want to stack into the pile just use the separate wing button and turn, I have been plowing for 22 years and Western Plows are the best period, this guy needs to go back to a straight blade and joy stick controller, I dont even look at my controller while im plowing I know what to push and what is going to happen,

[@Dirtmonkey]

+case2470tractor Glad you have had a good experience with Western.

[@JoshBeards]

Fisher XV2 here. Same controller. I agree. It's a simple controller. I run it while shifting the truck. When you plow using 2 feet and 2 hands running a steering wheel, stick shift, plow controller, clutch, brake, and throttle and have no issues, it's about as simple controller as they can make.

[@jakebourdeau4650]

@@JoshBeards Try a Boss controller. No comparison. I run both. Boss hands down is a million times better. I like things about both plows and dislike things about both plows. I am not biased and am open minded. Hands down no contest Boss is far superior when it comes to the controller!

[@JoshBeards]

@@jakebourdeau4650 I will say it again, I plow using a manual transmission. I shift the truck from the forward gear to reverse while using the controller. I have actually hung the controller over the rear view mirror while plowing. The controller was upside down and facing the opposite direction. I could still control the plow just fine.

[@H3lzsn1p3r]

Jake Bourdeau boss is junk the fact you cant move both wings with one button is a joke

[@MTSTEEL1]

I have been using western plows for going on 12 years now. 71/2 ft to a 8 ft proplus to a 8.5 ft MVP3. Bought the proplus and the MVP3 new and both times the cutting edge from the factory was junk and wore down too quick. Buying a thicker edge solves the problem. As for the controller for the MVP3, you need more time on it. one button to scoop mode, one button for V mode and the others are simple, up, down, right left. Love my western V plow and will never go back to a straight for the advantage it gives me. going on 4 years with it now and hasn't been in the shop yet for any issues, no bent frames, nothing.

[@joe4hirelawncare497]

I am having problems with a few of my residential snow removal customers. I just have a 30" walk behind snowblower, but some customers have stone driveways. Twice now stones have been jammed in my impeller. I don't want to do these two driveways between damage to my blower and the risk of putting a stone through a window. How do I tell this two customers that I don't want to do their driveways anymore?

[@Dirtmonkey]

Tell them the truth- what you just explained says it all.

[@jban126xxr]

What's the best plow for you money? Gonna build a plow truck soon just got hammered with 35+ inches of snow this weekend. Sick of using the old snow blower. I'm a big diesel guy so I'll probably getting an older reliable 7.3 f350 I was originally thinking western or boss but what's the best for the money eventually get some lots from a landscaping company to make some extra money.

[@connerbutler1077]

Just get a fisher straight blade

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Jacob Banister All of them have good and bad points. That why I run a mix of hiniker, boss and western.

[@christophermasi7669]

my plow is a 2004 and is in great shape still

[@bryantremmel2996]

i agree defently a problem.but where was the shoes for the plow.i willnt run a v plow on a 3/4 tone truck to much weight on the front end.my choice ive allways ran meyers.i have a meyers parking lot pro.and its the best ive had so far.love it.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+bryan tremmel These plows don't come equipped with shoes or curb guards. :( They aren't in the design.

[@bryantremmel2996]

they should that would help with the cutting edge.so what happend with the plow that the cutting edge was gone.

[@jcslawntips]

You should try a western wideout!! I agree it looks pretty cool.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+JC'sLawnTips I want to- that would be awesome!

[@SledgeHammer43]

Stan Can you get the Meyer Super V2

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Don Hanson I can get it if I buy it haha.

[@blessingslawn]

If you decide to throw that controller away, throw it in a box and send it to me lol. I could use a back up.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Blessings Lawn & Outdoor Services Haha Will do:)

[@rk7567]

been plowing for 25 years, that rep was correct, with a steeper cutting angle you wear the blade a heck of a lot faster.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Randy Kirk That is true.

[@patmillar6381]

I love my vplow! 8!years no issues at all

[@Dirtmonkey]

Cool!

[@vicente18222]

ive been snow plowing for 10 plus years. i have used western and ihave used the meyer diamond trip edge snowplow. in my opinion. the diamond blade plow is by far the best plow. i have had no issues. its strong and man does it clean good. maybe its just me. but if i were to get another plow in the near future. it would be another diamond plow.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Very cool- Thanks for sharing that!

[@workingshlub8861]

i have a diamond 8 foot and it is a beast..built like a tank..better than any fisher ive seen. ..has the meyer hydraulics which is another story but they are easy to troubleshoot and repair.

[@marygott66]

This is why I use a Western cable plow system joy stick 2 cable's easy on sight repair. I started with cable system s had the electrical plow. Wound up going back to old system. Guess What? No more problems..

[@JohnnyMow]

Western is #1 around here. I guess your plow was made in Monday morning or Friday afternoon! I am sure they will make this right. I am not a fan of there vplows but there wide outs are nice. I also agree with your assessment of the controller. As always you are on top of it.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Johnny Mow Thanks Johnny- so you don't like there controller either? Have you tried the joystick? I think that might be the answer for me.

[@fcmwhitneyfarms]

boss dxt is the way to go. less wear and tear on a truck. solid cutting edge. I've had a vxt and upgraded 2 years ago to the dxt. haven't replaced the cutting edge yet. as for controller... i like mine. 5 buttons and fairly easy to use. would like a scoop button but that's about the only complaint. i just upgraded the lights to the new led light kit and made a big difference. good review sir makes me not want to ever buy a western v plow

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Marques Whitney I just made a video comparing the Boss DXT to a western MVP 3 :)

[@dsarg82]

Stanly, The pitch of the blade has a huge affect on how hard it cuts. Maybe you added weight after install? We run all the plows and the western controller is stellar. Very easy to operate. Western plow has stood strong over the competition. What Do I know sounds like your the expert

[@Dirtmonkey]

d sarg- I have ran all types of V plows and just never had this same issue on anything else. But then to have it on 2 new blades? Both cutting edges crapped out in the first season. Thats just not ok. Douglas dynamics (Westerns) parent company needs to improve this for future customers.

[@aaronsbarker]

We run a Fisher V and it has the same controller (same parent company, Douglas Dynamics). I have to agree on the lack of usability in the remote. Apparently, when Douglas Dynamics bought Blizzard in 2005, they got the extendable blade patent and shared it across their products so you can get the same technology with slightly different tweaks from each company.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Aaron Barker I have heard something like that. I am guessing that controller makes more sense on a wideout plow than a V

[@robertmillier1]

If you could do a new video of 2018 western plows, it would be greatly appreciated 👍

[@spiker84]

So I just did my first storm with my MVP3. I actually really like the controller, although I fall into "for the new texting generation" group. A quick tip about the wings (which is mostly moot, the scoop/vee buttons cover most of what's necessary) The wing will almost always move forward first, unless you pressed it already within about 30 (possibly more) seconds. So if you want it to move back like you're going from scoop to straight, quickly press it twice.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+spiker84 Yep- thats the same controller- one button 2 functions. The joystick is more intuitive.

[@nickneves9005]

Hello, enjoy watching all of your videos. We own three Fisher XV2 Snowplows and one fisher extreme V plow and absolutely love them. I personally love the control as it is the same as western, for me it is very simple but that might just be me. Just a thought, maybe try to look at a fisher plow as your next purchase or if possible see if you would be able to demo one. Again great videos, thanks.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Nick Neves I actually will- Seems like a lot of people like the Fischer plows- I need to check into them.

[@DEVUNK88]

dude doesn't the top two button scoop and v the plow automatically?

[@robertreisner6119]

Been plowing snow in Alaska since 1984. Always used the straight blade Western Plow 7.5 ft with minor issues. One is a 1984 model the other is a 2009 Pro model. V blades offer more problems.

[@jamesnm21]

Put wings on it man. You'll never go back. They usually come with thick rubber cutting edges so I bolted a strip of 1/4" steel to them and they hold up pretty well.

[@loganp7043]

Have you ever tried a fisher snow plow

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Logan P Not yet. Hear they are pretty good though

[@anthonythorp7291]

My friend has his 1995 plow still in service for personal and his business lot. I had a 2005 which I liked. It was 3 yrs old b4 showing wear. 4 yrs old b4 lights/plug in started being a problem. Other than that, no problems. My 2013 showed wear the first yr, the slow drop quit the 2nd yr, and plug in problems the 3rd. Quality definitely went down hill. The new plows idk, my 2013 is still in use. As far as controllers, I love mine. I can press one button on my western that would take pressing two buttons at the same time on a 2013 boss. Plus I got my mpv3 9'6" v put on the truck for $5,800. Dealer had a boss 9'2" v for $6,600 plus installation.

[@randymikhaiel933]

Wow that was an awesome review! I know "0" about snow plowing, but this review was so simple to understand. I bet u had that rep shaking in his boots. Lol!

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Randy Mikhaiel I wish- he wasn't really much help though.

[@RipperWest]

i have the same plow but a fisher, and dont know where you are coming from with the controller complaint. I think its the best one period. Also if you are having cutting edge issues you should step up from the 1/2'" cutting edge to the 5/8"

[@Dirtmonkey]

+RipperWest That cutting edge is what came with the plow-but now I know to get the thicker one.

[@jakebourdeau4650]

I'd be very interested to know what other controllers you've used? If you think it's one of the best what are you comparing It too?

[@GameChanger-hj9jx]

Great vid. Thanks.

[@rustynail3159]

I see they still use the same pull out spring-loaded pin for the jack stands that tend to stick all the time.

[@dancody2388]

I have a western straight blade. I'm not a fan of anything v-plow. my father has a boss v-plow. I hooked it up for him once and hate it. The western ultra-mount is the system to have. what I would like to know is how the wide out plows work and compare.

[@sasquatch8044]

Had a 8'6" Hiniker V-plow on a Ram 2500 absolutely loved the controller, I didn't like the mount. That is one main area for improvement. Had a Boss 9'2" V- XT on a F-250 love the mount, didn't care for the construction of the blade or the controller. Also the Hiniker plow was heavier which worked better for back dragging. I sold my plows and may get a new one next season. I was considering a Western but now will most likely buy another Hiniker, especially if they change their mounting system.

[@MemphisMojo15s]

Boss makes good snow plows. We have the 8.2 V plows at work and a 9' Boss V plow. They're not bad at all

[@kellybowen2854]

I own Boss stainless dxt v 8 2 love that plow and a fisher 9 6 stainless v with 1 foot extentions love that plow. The boss plow has better contoller on that one. The newer fisher with the high outside edge is great I hear.

[@BigDadx4]

i love the boss v plow controller vs my fisher v plow controller. my boss has been a solid performer i know alot of folks dont like the fact that if it fails, it cant be chained up off a snowbank. you got snow already???

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Christopher Lankard Not much snow- Enough to try out the plows for 5 hours the other day.

[@pennapropertymaintenance9430]

wow we've yoused the western mvp3 sense it came out. Never had a problem love it, fyi the stock blade is much thinner than the replacement. It's also much easier if you never use the bottom buttons(kinda pointless) we never use them just the top 2. great video!!!

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Penna Property Maintenance penna Thanks!

[@jandblawncare8570]

Even though this is a late response I still think it's valuable. When we got our first Fisher XV's (basically same as the Western) they came with 3/8" cutting edges and they basically melted off in 4 storms of about 8 hours of plowing each storm. We too went back to the dealer, called Fisher directly (douglas dynamics) and was pretty much told too bad for you. I went back to the dealer, flipped out and the dealer stepped up and put 1/2" thick cutting edges on and problem solved. Now we get about 1.5 seasons on a set of edges. We average about 110-160 inches of snow a season so we're plowing a few times a week and the 1/2" thick edges seem to hold up well. You can even get a 5/8" edges but very pricey. We pay 380.00 for a new set of OEM edges installed, don't know where your coming up with 450.00

[@Dirtmonkey]

We bumped up our second pair of cutting edges as well. Sounds like Douglas dynamics put the screws to you as well on their junk cutting edges. The heavier edges hold up much better but what a bad experience and customer service.

[@davidg9167]

Stop buying OEM edges. If it snows in your area (obviously) than there are fabrication shops in your area that will make custom quality edges. DD plows come with 3/8" edges but you can bump it up to 1/2" or 5/8" when you buy the plow.

[@jandblawncare8570]

We have zero problems with the 1/2" edges. Local fab shops want the same as or more for their edges....Ill stick with my dealer who gets me in and out when it counts.

[@jamesnm21]

@@davidg9167 i went to a local steel supplier and got a 6" piece of 1/2" ar400 steel for about $212. Then I bought a Bosch 1/2" cobalt drill bit, clamped my old edge to the new one and drilled my own holes on my drill press. You can also buy aftermarket ar400 edges that are pre drilled for your specific model of plow. They will hold up better than your average cutting edge.

[@MattyDardani]

I love your videos I just bought a fisher xls which is the fisher version of the western wide out and can't wait to use it I also own a fisher xtreamev plow and have the same type controllers as you however My guys and i have learned the controllers rather quickly my friend has the joy stick version and he says its horrible because it has 8 slots rather than 8 buttons and it is really had to get it in the right slot for example he says when he tries to get it to angle right it will go into the vee slot hope that helps people

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Matt Dardani I have used both joysticks and buttons- Most controllers have a learning curve- this one is not fast or easy.

[@potskie420]

I run fisher(westerns twin) they have the same controller and I can't use any other controller near as efficiently except in tractor. The cutting edge and dealer support problems are shitty tho. My dealer is phenomenal and goes the extra when ever he can to take care of his customers.

[@potskie420]

Also a heads up.... In some areas the Snow Ex brand has a different distributer than fisher/western and has 25% cheaper parts for some reason. Yet on most newer plows uses the exact same parts for cutting edges/ controllers/ modules etc as all three are owned by Douglas Dynamics. So if you need a controller or module buy the snow ex and save some bank.

[@beauwilliams8037]

Boss and ford are the perfect combo. Hated my old western got another new stainless boss this year and will never change. Western wide out is good tho, boss got the best controllers I've used too

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Beau Williams I like Boss as well. Used to love Western-until this one.

[@tylersvideoproduction8603]

ive heard really good things about the western wideout

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Public School Tyler I have heard they are amazing plows- wish I would have bought one.

[@tylersvideoproduction8603]

where i am, you can get one installed for under $7,000

[@dodgeramguy85]

Stumbled across your channel. You got some good videos here! Keep up the good work!! As far as the plow thats sad to see the rep couldnt even send you in the right direction.. Dont really have any time behind the mvp.. I run the boss dxt and so far have had good luck with it.. Seems to be the plow of choice around me... As far as the controller I like it but I dont... My boss controller is 4 buttons for control of the wings which some guys like and others dont..

[@Dirtmonkey]

+dodgeramguy85 I have had many Boss V plows- Liked them all. But switched to western V plows- don''t like them at all. I would never buy another one. Basically all due to poor service and lack of response from Western. The plows are Ok and I love the ability to chain up a plow if it breaks down.

[@SnowMenShow]

Try Boss Snow Plows. They are more expensive, but built better.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Snow Men I have had 4 or 5 of them- Like them!

[@dltbrothersprofessionalser411]

Well looks like I'm sticking to boss when it comes to v-plows. I was going to try out a western v-plow but after seeing this no thanks. Thanks Stan for the heads up!

[@dltbrothersprofessionalser411]

Also that controller not only looks complicated, but not glove friendly whatsoever.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Pedro De La Torre That controller is whacked and the excuse the rep gave me is even worse. My first Western V plow has been OK-but I like the Boss for V's I have had many of them.

[@christopherreynolds6964]

western wideout is the way to go. one thing that Western does that drives me nuts is the ludicrous pricing on replacement parts. $500 for a controller? come the fuck on!?!

[@toddthomas4542]

The absolute best snow plow in the world ever made was and will always be a blizzard 9' to 11' hands-down nothing else touches it

[@dylon4884]

Fishers are the best plows by far. Easiest to mount on the truck good cutting edges I have 3 seasons on mine and do big commercial lots and my other truck does state roads. You should give them a try

[@coreymacqueen4802]

Fisher is owned by Western, LOL

[@1958johndeere620]

That controller is the very same as my fisher xtreme v's. I like them.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+1958johndeere620 Good deal :)

[@Brandon-ve1ow]

my friend has one and the rear springs both snapped whe. he hit a sewer cap im not sure what there called. there in the road there big caps. anyway they sent out a guy and he claimed both springs were undere stress due to the amount of snow. 16inches. both springs and controller installed $780 more then he made that week. he now has a v boss plow and they dont bull shit. nice video though keep up the work

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Brandon's LawnCare I have encountered some BS from Western on this as well but I guess it happens both ways.

[@FortitudeLLC]

I bought the MVP3 plow 2 seasons ago and hate it.. Been nothing but problems... Mostly electrical problems..Two modules later.

[@GardenViewLawncare]

I think you can't speak for others any plow can be junk even if its a new plow.. so just because ppl get a v plow and you like it and it turns out great doesn't mean Stanley couldn't get a bad plow. it could of happen to you moss and you could of complaint about it. Stanley has a lot of equipment if at least western would give a new cutting edge would be good or trade the plow. so no you can't speak for others because it can happen to anyone.. I have a new snowdogg no problems I love it stacks like a king and I also have a western wideout and works great too.

[@erikatslsr9969]

Boss is where it's at brotha snow man.... GL with the snow! and make that MULA!

[@erikatslsr9969]

+Erik ErikS PLUS... all V's... get rid of the straights with wings.. if ur gunna do that u midas well just buy a push box for your loaders instead of blades... they can back blade just like a blade.. and push a hell of a lot more snow then a blade leaving less runs.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Erik ErikS I have 4 boss plows- good stuff.

[@erikatslsr9969]

thats what i like to hear! get after it this winter brotha. GL with everything

[@spiker84]

That's a strange issue. Not trying to take the blame away from the plow because it is most likely something wonky with that one, but is it on a large lot? Western puts pretty thin edges on their plows and I guess it could be possible the a long straight push at higher speeds burned it off. Wouldn't think it'd go that fast though. Definitely worth upgrading to the 1/2 inch edge.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+spiker84 Western hasn't been any help on this issue. Both trucks plow on the same lot.

[@TheRockinhouse]

I have the same plow on a Dodge. My problem is getting in on and off the truck. I have to ram it into something to get it on and then tether it to something to pull it off. Then, when you pull it off and it collapses on itself its "as easy" as breaking out the floor jack and a pinch bar and some blocks of wood to get it back to a position that i can, again, ram it back onto my truck. Im sure i may be able to "adjust" that T bar to make it actually work the way it was intended but then what? Wipe my blade out as you did? Not happy.

[@Dirtmonkey]

HAHAHA- sorry I am not laughing at you but with you! I have the exact same problem. I put mine on once-November 15th and leave it on until April 15th. I have had friends call me in a panic because they need help getting their plows on with a storm on the way. They are never as easy as they seem. Although- Western has been the best out of the bunch for hooking up.

[@diabel1969]

The best i've ever seen hooking up was a old curtis plow. Had a hydro powered kickstand, and it was heavy enough that when you drove into it, it didn't move and you didn't have to chase the damned thing around the yard like I do this western!

[@JimTomatore]

rockin house I HAD the same mount/dismount problems with my mvp on my 06 Ram. got the whole rig used. First thing i did was download the manuals and adjust the leg heights. that helped a little. Next I learned a little wd-40 (or some spray-on white lithium grease) helps everything slide in and out much better. This also helps when your hooking up a little crooked and one side just won't lock in place. I always hook/unhook in 4-wheel drive. This helps to prevent slight changes in ride height when applying torque to the wheels. Finally, after I drop the plow to the ground to unhook, i drive forward a little. Then when i drop the feet, adjust the springs, unhook and back away I don't get that settling movement from the plow. Which means it slides off much easier and when I hook back up it's at the perfect height/angle so it slides on much more smoothly. My description is long and wordy, but in practice it's simple. The wd-40/grease not only helps hookup, but it also cuts down on rust build up in/on the coupling.

[@davidg9167]

If you guys are having these kind of problems you are doing it wrong. Key for an easy hook up is that the blade is level and at the right height.

[@teckhardt127]

Western Plow Certified Tech Here. That adjustment you are talking about is called the "Configuration" of the plow. Unfortunately, whoever installed your plow should have double checked this configuration and did not. That being said, MVP plows are very hard to get a perfect configuration with, depending on the truck. There are four total bolts that can change the configuration of the plows. They are located by the foot stand. Loosen those four bolts, and then removed the two rear. Use a hand jack to jack front of plow into air until upper bolt holes line up. Then reinstall the bolts and tighten. That should take care of the problem. My opinion of Western as a company? Terrible quality control. I've installed about 20 plows this season and sometimes they give you MORE hardware than you need, and sometimes they short you. We've had multiple plows that had MISSING parts upon arrival. With all that, the "dealerships" that sell, repair, and install the plows are ultimately responsible for correct installation and repair.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+teckhardt127 I Love a person that says it like it is! Thank you. By the way I did reconfigure the plow. I am watching to see if it makes a difference.

[@MTSTEEL1]

Well I bought my MVP3 2 years ago and have had no issues with it. The only thing I agree with this, is that Western cutting edges -(and it doesn't matter what western plow you buy) are garbage and you only get one season out of them. I always replace them with aftermarket ones. And you really can't figure out the controller? I had it down after the second storm and no problems with the buttons and I have large hands. Plowed for years with a straight blade and after using a V plow, will never go back. I rate the MVP a 9 out of a 10

[@Dirtmonkey]

They need to correct that cutting edge. As far as the controller goes I was comparing to Boss and Hiniker controllers which are much more intuitive.

[@captseamus]

Maybe your truck frame is messed up? I seen bent frames from the OEM before... brand new cars.

[@doccafs]

5 years on my mvp plus never had a problem. I was hit by a car sliding. had a hise blow out plow totaled the car, ripped a hold behind the drivers door in to the back seat. no i was not moving i was parked. i love my plow and have several. my cutting edges have never been changed and i dont run shoes on my plows.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+doccafs I wish my cutting edges have never been changed but the truth is both have already been replaced.

[@levilemon1518]

I have two ultra mount straight blades and they are great. I was looking at an MVP3 and now i am glad i didn't buy it! Thank you

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Levi Lemon Buy a scoop plow- by far the most efficient design.

[@blonchay123]

I think it has a lot to do with the down pressure feature. Make sure the operator is in "float" otherwise the hydro applies extra down pressure for back dragging. That would definitely lessen the life of the cutting edge

[@Dirtmonkey]

+blonchay123 Hmmm- Great advice. I never though of it that way. Thank you!

[@jreidwelder147]

I like the idea of a V-Plow, but I wouldn't do anything different than a Fisher straight blade, like an HD or X-blade plow. Great review though!

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Joe Shmo I prefer a straight blade with wings.

[@hoffmanlawnfertilization2246]

i think straight blade with wings is the winner overall. less hassle less to teach just simple , and v plows can wear uneven, and i dont think they can swing as far to either side.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Hoffman Lawn & Fertilization Your right- V's can wear un even and I like the straight blade with wings.

[@bsepropertymaintenance4297]

I've had nothing but issue after issue after issue with Western play don't back there products they don't care about the contractor I will never buy another Western snow plow again. !! I went with Fisher and they have helped me every step of the way

[@Dirtmonkey]

They are made by the same company- douglas dynamics. It must be the dealer?

[@coreymacqueen4802]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! What a clown. Go stand in the corner!

[@SummitLandscapingLLC]

ive been running westerns since 08, ran an old 8.5 MVP on truck 1 from 08 to 14 and can honestly say i beat the life out of that plow and it kept kicking absolutely no complaints. in 13 we put a 8.5 MVP3 on our truck 2 and its been great. last spring i upgraded the MVP to a 9.5 MVP3 and got 2 storms in with it and it was great. ive been running western long enough to know that the adjustments need to be made on the A frame to maximize wear and tear. both trucks in the video look like they were not setup right from the dealer since the a frames did not look level the severely worn one did look worse. not to mention both of those plows cutting edges looked spent too. never seen that happen, we get at least 1 full season out of a cutting edge. i was not impressed with the Wideout BTW, i would stay away from it and go with the new snow ex line (old blizzard) the mounts are interchangeable with western just have to swap the ears out and the wiring is the same as long as you have fleet flex system. as far as the controller goes ive got well over 1000 hours with that controller and honestly dont have a single complaint. i dont mind how the independent wing function operates both directions. you will get used to it.

[@Dirtmonkey]

+SummitLandscapingLLC I'm sure I will get used to the controller but I think the cutting edges are junk. I have a brand new on now on this truck and another brand new one on my Hiniker- there is not comparison. Hinder standard cutting edge is much better.

[@y2kxj]

Sound like the Harding of the cutting edge was not correct. Installing them is easy, I put on many. If it's biting too much it was a installing issue. I know the older ones I did you need to have a level shop floor and v in the plow and drill 2 holes. If the floor or the v is not right when drilling the plow wii,l not sit level in any v position. If you want better cutting edges find out where the highways truck and heavy equipment dealers go.

[@buldgymoose7]

Boss Plows for the win.. My only complaint is I can't stack snow as high as I would like.. Not like it matters this season in Ohio

[@Dirtmonkey]

+Collin L Just made a video putting Boss against Western ;)