Robert Morris indicated he spent two years away from ministry after a teenager first accused him of molesting her. His own book raises questions about that claim.
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@HeatherRose20233 ай бұрын
A pride problem 🙄 There is a video of RM preaching a sermon where he admitted to seeking out “insecure girls.” That’s not a pride problem. That’s a predator.
@Bambi12-7643 ай бұрын
YES!!! So confident he is so popular - the truth won’t be exposed. How angry God must be with this predator!
@elmyra.jackson3 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@caroletta4513 ай бұрын
Well said!
@exuberant83853 ай бұрын
Groomer
@pastorjohnculbertson6613 ай бұрын
It's the past! The Devil is the God of your past! It's all he has to work with! He's using the past to stop the move of God! RM was forgiven and set free, and God blessed him for 35 years, and now the return of the Lord is so close the devil is doing everything thing he can to destroy pastors! To destroy churches! And he's using you as well! He's manipulating your heart and your mind to finish the work of the devil! To bring the past back up! The one that was and is forgiven! Repent! Who God has set free is free indeed!
@garylefevers3 ай бұрын
There should not be a statute of limitations on SA.
@MTknitter223 ай бұрын
I think a Texas lawmaker is seeing about changing this.
@sonneversets35303 ай бұрын
💯👍
@loribrown41803 ай бұрын
Parents of victim should have reported and handled this when it happened
@MTknitter223 ай бұрын
Yes and something else here. I appreciated James Robison’s statement yesterday. However, Morris was rescued from the kind of job he probably should have had but was rescued to work in MINISTRY by James. I am sure it was not something preaching or counseling but James hires him without evidently even finding out all the truth about what he had done. Worse, nobody TOLD Robison? This just gets worse.
@JEmpireQueen3 ай бұрын
I think you don’t realize the manipulation used and power held that these church leaders can hold over members of the church. They can literally confuse parents.
@mariantreber80553 ай бұрын
I don't think anybody knew the truth except Cindy. She was ignored by many people. Better for this truth to come out now, so something WILL be done.
@777houses3 ай бұрын
@@MTknitter22 As you can see Robinson did not know what happened. God is merciful and forgiving and we all make mistakes but Robinson had no idea what was happening involving a child and hence I do not believe we can judge Robinson for that.
@sandyjuntunen40883 ай бұрын
Sure should have when they were telling a lot of other people but not police.
@JeannieParker-ji6bf3 ай бұрын
12 is not a teenager…even. Why would your reporter call her a teenager.
@kathygoulden29253 ай бұрын
He said a teenage girl accused him ... she was a teenager when she reported it. Then he added the rest..."from the time she was 12 to 16".
@joanseaton17093 ай бұрын
12 is not a teenage girl
@ChangingTides7773 ай бұрын
It carried on for 4 years.
@HeatherRose20233 ай бұрын
There are far too many cases like this…in the Church!! It needs to stop. The wolves must be removed from the pastures.
@caroletta4513 ай бұрын
Yes. Let's pray the dominos of those in sin start to fall for those grieving the Holy Spirit!
@floydthibodeaux18443 ай бұрын
Removed, they are technically leading it.
@Chris-k9k9c3 ай бұрын
This predator did whatever it took to keep the money coming in, as did his handlers, over the decades.
@212days3 ай бұрын
LISTENING to what the lady said in her email and assuming that the lady was telling it like it is in her email...... Him responding with the line of "My attorney advises that if you are threatening me you could be criminally prosecuted" is just mind boggling.
@JewandGreek3 ай бұрын
But it's true. She was blackmailing him.
@donnaleveron57113 ай бұрын
@@JewandGreekNo, she was not. There are 2 sides to every story, have you taken the time and objectivity to listen to hers? She was a CHILD!!
@donnaleveron57113 ай бұрын
@@JewandGreekRequesting repayment for monies spent due to his actions is hardly blackmail, $50,000.00 is not blackmail money, $5,000,000.00 maybe, at this point she deserves it!
@caroletta4513 ай бұрын
@@JewandGreek Either you are a friend of his or you are like him. Either way you are scary! Birds of a feather...
@sierrawendell67593 ай бұрын
@@caroletta451Yes! I agree with you completely!
@jackmullin51103 ай бұрын
She was not a teenager! 12
@vbetta89793 ай бұрын
Yes, and I want to know, when they say he abused her from 12 to 16,did it only end at 16 because that is when she told her parents and so he wasn't allowed around her anymore? I doubt he quit abusing her because HE realized it was wrong. I also doubt Cindy was the only one....
@tammycaskey69903 ай бұрын
@@vbetta8979 keep thinking...go deeper, and you will when that prize!! Sherlock.
@LuckyLong5893 ай бұрын
Your listening skills are poor.
@boerqwhaas3 ай бұрын
You can be forgiven, but you can never be trusted. He should have never been a church leader. The nepotism at Gateway will have to eradicated before any chance of resurrection. That means all his family should resign from leadership positions. Everyone who knew and did not speak is as guilty as he is and must resign. Absolutely sick.
@tamimoncrief22643 ай бұрын
I agree. His family needs to resign or be fired. If Gateway has hope of survival.
@sandyjuntunen40883 ай бұрын
If they didn't know they shouldn't be blamed. This desire to blame, punish & sue people based on emotion & not guilt & fact is very wrong. It's very strange that they told everyone except the police, & that should be explained as well.
@darrendent82883 ай бұрын
The main issue, is that he said he an inappropriate relationship with a young lady but didn't mention she was underaged at the time. Its more on him, then the board members if its true.
@HeatherRose20233 ай бұрын
@@darrendent8288 The board members had a duty to learn the more about the his offenses before even considering a “restoration” process. How can a restoration process even begin if more details of a specific offense are not known? It seems they blindly trusted what RM told them. Would you blindly trust a person who has confessed to you that they cheated and lied? Their lack of questioning and curiosity in that regard is negligent, at best.
@caroletta4513 ай бұрын
I agree that zero part of his family should have a position at Gateway. Especially his son taking over the pulpit.
@TheRealKenF3 ай бұрын
There should also be NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS on child abuse crimes. Period.
@BarbTaylor-g2k3 ай бұрын
1 Timothy 3:2 KJV Bible “A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;”
@chrisoneill39993 ай бұрын
Nobody did blame him.
@donnaleveron57113 ай бұрын
@@chrisoneill3999Not true, her father brought this to those involved in the ministry at that time. She has contacted many churches since to let them know of his crime.
@annabelle14713 ай бұрын
key word : blameless!
@debo85143 ай бұрын
Remove his books from all libraries.
@tammycaskey69903 ай бұрын
I disagree. If he is speaking biblical truth leave them there. He should step down from his pulpit and ministry. But I'm sure his books helped millions of people. ARe you a sinner? Have you committed dreadful sins before? I don't know. Christ's know all men and women's' hearts.
@RobertGareau-z2b3 ай бұрын
I threw his book the Blessed Life that I had in the garbage
@jasongates-3 ай бұрын
@@tammycaskey6990 There's no reason for any of his books to be found anywhere, and nobody is ever going to read them again. Biblical truth also says to follow the laws of the land. Biblical truth also expects that children will be protected. We can assume the allegations against him are true. Especially since he admitted to it. God needs representatives who aren't an embarrassment to Him.
@historybuff71373 ай бұрын
The Lord didn't orchestrate the situation with a child. Robert Morris is responsible for his actions. He still isn't taking responsibility for his actions! Get out of that church!
@HeatherRose20233 ай бұрын
He needs to be removed from any and all church activities.
@MTknitter223 ай бұрын
@@HeatherRose2023 He never will be because if his wife, kids all work there, HE will be involved. The young son is being installed as Senior Pastor so exactly what will change?
@warrenroy53763 ай бұрын
I agree. Robert Morris chose to do wrong. He is suffering the consequences of that and will for the rest of his natural life!
@JoshStahl733 ай бұрын
The reason so many people at Gateway claim lack of knowledge is because the SA took place at a different church long before Gateway was ever started. There are so many bad things that occurred here. An innocent child gets SA by a traveling minister. This went on for 4 1/2 years in the victims own home. The family trusted this man in their home and he never got caught by either family. Which demonstrates some grooming and predatory behavior. 1. The girl's father having heard the details was angry but did not involve the police. Why? 2. The church elders at Shady Grove (not Gateway) removed him from ministry for 2 years while he received counseling and went through a restoration process. 3. Shady Grove, 1 year after Morris' 2 year hiatus, allowed him to be put into an Eldership role. Just three years after RM was caught. 4. 11 years after that, Morris started Gateway. Who at Gateway was going to review his past sin? There would really be no way for the new leaders of Gateway to know the details of any of his past. They would have had limited access and knowledge over the more recent years of his ministry. 5. I am somewhat cynical to believe there was only 1 victim and that RM is truthful in claiming that for 35 years he has walked in purity. Prayerfully I hope that is true. However if that is true, then there is even more reason for Gateway and Elders who came into relationship with RM long after the SA that took place in the 80s. In many cases those elders were 15 years removed from that incident and would only know if someone would bring it to their attention. 6. In 2005 it appears the victim brought back up the allegations seeking financial assistance. At least one elder became aware. And unless that elder dug deep into Robert's past, most likely took RM at his word that this was a past "morale failure" that his wife and Shady Grove dealt with and now he was walking in purity. But the issue over age may of the victim may have never really been addressed. I would think any financial offering to the victim would have requested NDA. And while that sounds dark, the church would not want to keep addressing a situation with RM that occurred long before Gateway existed, and if the victim was seeking money in 2005, would she seek more? Again, RM should have been dealing with this, not Gateway. 7. Lesson should be learned to treat all accusations of SA serious. I understand the victim not acting on justice until later in life, but why did her family (father/mother) who were also ministers not go to authorities? Perhaps they hoped it was a single victim and they did not want to ruin RM marriage / family. But they also allowed for the lack of justice and allowance of other possible victims. it will be interesting in what capacity if any did Gateway elders really know. But Shady Grove certainly had some gaps in the way they handled the situation back in the 80s.
@Brad40833 ай бұрын
Thank you for your serious and thoughtful comment. As a member of a Baptist church in the '80s, I can imagine that such crimes were dealt with differently back then, if possible. In this case, apparently every effort was made to resolve the situation privately without involving the police or lawyers.
@HeatherRose20233 ай бұрын
“I’m sorry” is not repentance.
@tammycaskey69903 ай бұрын
What's not repentance? Are you being self-righteous, Heather? Now, tell me: Why did Jesus die on the cross? Reads like you forgot.
@iaingraham75863 ай бұрын
@@tammycaskey6990 Even if someone's repentance is genuine, it has nothing to do with attaining or keeping a job, or position . It just has to do with someone's salvation. It certainly doesn't mean people don't have to face the consequences of their actions, or that they won't be accountable for potential crimes they may have committed . (as I write this response Morris has not been charged with a crime in this matter, or had civil judgement against him in this situation) I go to church, I ask for forgiveness of sin , but that doesn't mean I'm suited to a position in a church or anywhere else for that matter. I don't have a right in terms of a constitutional assurance to hold a position of leadership or employment in a Ministry (or anywhere else) on that basis.
@iaingraham75863 ай бұрын
Moreover, Morris didn't come forward and voluntarily repent of his actions in this situation. He was exposed to church elders by Ms Clemishire's parents at the congregation they attended at that time. Clemishire maintains that although they forgave Robert Morris as a person; They never gave him their blessing to return to Ministry. Morris has not been chraged with a crime in this situation. Neither Morris or Gateway Church have had a civil judgement against them in Clemishire's situation as I write this response.
@iaingraham75863 ай бұрын
@@tammycaskey6990 Again, Gateway is claiming they didn't know that Clemishire was a child at the time when she said her abuse began. (and continued) They made that claim in their second statement accepting the resignation of Robert Morris . Assuming their statement is accurate (second statement of June 2024); it infers that Morris was not entirely forthcoming with them at some point. Any job application I can recall filling out, lists that kind of behaviour as potential grounds for dismissal. Assuming Gateway's claims are accurate, then questioning why he was allowed to resign as opposed to being fired is reasonable. Through an elder's statement , Gateway has apologized to Ms Clemishire for what she endured, and they are not offering any moral defence of Robert Morris at this point. The Church as an entity has not had a civil judgement issued against them in Clemishire's situation as I write this response.
@tammycaskey69903 ай бұрын
@@iaingraham7586 You don't understand Grace, do you? He has stepped down and he repented. He is still saved, regardless. What are you talking about. I never said he was Jesus. Fool.
@HeatherRose20233 ай бұрын
Another case of “men of God” abusing the doctrine of forgiveness to guilt and goad the victim into not reporting abuse to law enforcement in order to avoid accountability and legal justice. This has been happening for decades.
@willhammer86653 ай бұрын
Text book Narcissist
@jld48703 ай бұрын
As are all the ‘religious’ mentors for T and T himself are. Seeking to be worshipped by man.
@LALady13 ай бұрын
He definitely should not have gone back into a pastoral position even if he thought it was an affair!
@kay-pu7hr3 ай бұрын
He couldn't have thought it was an affair bc he molested a 12- year old child. There is a difference between an affair and molesting.😊.
@sierrawendell67593 ай бұрын
An Affair??? He knew he abused a child and used deceiving statements like: Moral Failure instead of Molestation and Young Lady instead of 12 year old child. He did Not tell the whole truth! He knew exactly what he did and so did his wife!
@greghanna77533 ай бұрын
They never helped Cindy! Terrible trauma for Cindy. They kept it all private to protect the supposed "church".
@jamescandicetatum51783 ай бұрын
im confused just a little. per the email she disclosed, 19 years ago he offered for a second time to go public. and according what she provided, he offered to go public 18 years prior to the email, but said he was asked by her father not to.... the initial wrong was inexcusable, but the history of this seems... kinda odd or something.
@MTknitter223 ай бұрын
So far that is what HE said to her in private email. It’s looking like there is good reason to wonder about Morris’ honesty.
@chazappiah50593 ай бұрын
@@MTknitter22 Victims father should be interviewed so we know the truth
@Stella-vd7zn3 ай бұрын
@@chazappiah5059 It doesn’t really matter- you can’t excuse the girl’s age at the time. She was 12 and she did not consent to being molested.
@donnaleveron57113 ай бұрын
@@chazappiah5059If he is still living. ??
@kennyzraht58043 ай бұрын
Serious question: why is this lady's message sounds like a shakedown? I absolutely don't question the trauma she had endured. But all these years later she decided she wants, basically, money. Why wait this long?! Her parents, back then, have they contacted the law? Why now? In her message, she doesn't speak of justice for what she went through, as in she'll go to the law. It reads more like a blackmail. Again, I absolutely don't excuse what this man did to her. I just try to figure out her messages.
@destinyandpurpose3 ай бұрын
She has not said she wants money now. She is fighting for new laws and statutes of limitations to help any CHILD regardless of when the abuse happened. Can't speak to your other questions concerning her parents, although I would like to know as well. I did hear that she was "blamed" for being "flirtatious" so much so that Debbie Morris felt to tell the victim "I forgive you", totally RIDICULOUS!!
@emmiestegmann29972 ай бұрын
Cindy... What do you want from Morris? Going to jail? Pay a ransom? Ask forgiveness? He lost everything because of his sin. What will satisfy you and take away your suffering?
@desiremansfield16443 ай бұрын
You who are without sin, cast the first stone. Instead of all the nasty comments, look at yourselves first. However i agree he should not have been allowed back into the ministry.
@tammycaskey69903 ай бұрын
yes. I agree.
@ARL-LifesLessons.-nk4fd3 ай бұрын
I’ve learned so much from this great man, (as it relates to his knowledge of the word and its impartation) but as the Bible says, Neiman was a great man, but he had leprosy. I had stopped listening to him, owing to the fact that he straddles the line of heretics and controversy. I believe he’s forgiven but like King David he’ll pay a price. May his victim find solace in the arms of Jesus.
@lastdayschapel74273 ай бұрын
He's a FALSE TEACHER! If you don't know this, I am to presume you have Never heard the real gospel.
@ARL-LifesLessons.-nk4fd3 ай бұрын
@@lastdayschapel7427 a false teacher is one who consistently errs, he like many others embraces the Levitical legalistic law of tithing. A false teacher distorts the meaning of scripture, interprets consistently, the word of God heretically (without repentance) In your opinion, is he completely false? Please share your thoughts.
@donnaleveron57113 ай бұрын
@@ARL-LifesLessons.-nk4fd"A little leaven leavens the whole lump."
@ARL-LifesLessons.-nk4fd3 ай бұрын
@@donnaleveron5711 that’s why repentance and forgiveness of sins are included in Christ’s atonement. In this life though there are consequences.
@jerryt40533 ай бұрын
The Bible says satan is the accuser of the brethren. The enemy loves seeing believers throwing stones at other believers.. The Bible says, look for evidence of repentance. The Bible also says, if we confess our sins God is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from All unrighteousness. The bible says, For all have sinned and fallen short of righteous requirement of God. Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned-every one-to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us. Everything we need is found in Jesus Christ.
@Chuck-qi8pw3 ай бұрын
The statute of limitations should not apply to crimes like this. Although Robert Morris will no longer be a Pastor, I doubt he will do any jail time. Yes, through genuine repentance, Jesus said in his word, you are forgiven. Lesson learned : crimes like this should be immediately turned over to law enforcement. Are their more victims? Should the church as an institution, require yearly or quarterly reviews of each and every minister?
@DisciplesHeart3 ай бұрын
'Hypocrites All" -Yahshua who also said, "your sins are forgiven." Just another clip the hypocritical media. Nothing new, move along.
@gigglesribera23793 ай бұрын
She was a child. These words are running low. What does it mean so it doesn’t happen again. It doesnt happen to antone being victimized? Or that it doesn’t happen that predators don't get busted? The peity of church males have gone on for too long. There's many, many, many, many more victims affected by males of the cloth. In history, past, present and unfortunately will be in the future until they make our laws for these predators appropriately served.
@camerongage12373 ай бұрын
I think most ministers have a pride problem in their 20s
@JanErtl-p3y2 ай бұрын
The pastor has made it very clear of his past transgressions and immortality. He has been forgiven!! Who are we to say he hasn’t? A 30 plus year ago egregious sin has been forgiven. Our world is being attacked by the devil and this is another attack. Robert Morris has raised a righteous, God fearing family. I personally feel, at this particular moment, that his accuser is seeking retribution because she did not receive money!! Shame on all of you that continue to persecute a forgive, righteous man!! Does anyone care to look at all of wonderful things this man has done? Satan is truly doing his happy dance, seeing so many good and honest pastors under persecution, and you’re all part of it! 😢
@sherrills.23323 ай бұрын
Apologies R NO GOOD. Elders knew!! SHUT GATEWAY DOWN. CRIMINAL MOLESTATION CHARGES
@robertburke99203 ай бұрын
So then, read the breakthrough masterpiece novel "Where Do We Go Now, LORD? - Burke." Explains much. Explains the NLP pastors use to entrain, mesmerize and stage-hypnotize students, employees and congregants... without their conscious knowing. Very important for believers to understand where were the signs that were missed. Why? Because NLP leaders do what they do in public, in front of all. Learn what the techniques are. Enjoy the novel!
@donaldplatt12973 ай бұрын
Family members should also resign,this is not a family business as so many of these megas seem to think.
@greghughes63143 ай бұрын
JUST LAYING HANDS HIS FLOCK
@HeatherRose20233 ай бұрын
Robert Morris made $$$ on that book.
@HailSagan93 ай бұрын
Will he still be Trump’s spiritual advisor? lol
@gregsmith74283 ай бұрын
Morris will doubtless escape scot free with a huge golden parachute paid by the elders. His victims will be swept under the rug.
@MTknitter223 ай бұрын
Yea and his very young son just appointed senior pastor
@deanlaurens29693 ай бұрын
Simple change the law this dog of a man needs to be put in jail for a long long time end of story
@caroletta4513 ай бұрын
@@MTknitter22 I think that is a big mistake if they allow that! It will be business as usual in the next six months, if that happens! That would be a travesty of justice!
@Eric-ro8bw3 ай бұрын
Hail Satan!
@shoutingatclouds10503 ай бұрын
The more I read about The Assemblies of God Churches the more I like them. I would attend the Gateway Church if I was further South.
@angelc11673 ай бұрын
The usual suspect
@gloriakutach95413 ай бұрын
Get him off youtube his face his words are not truth STOP
@polynesia87333 ай бұрын
Those emails specifically say she wants "restitution" his $25k wasn't enough. She wants MONEY!
@donnaleveron57113 ай бұрын
She wants reimbursement for monies payed out for the damage done to her emotionally, mentally, and spiritually. A far larger amount should be paid her. This wolf-in-sheeps- clothing has become wealthy in the 24 years since.
@HeatherRose20233 ай бұрын
She requested $50k to cover her past and ongoing counseling expenses. Nothing wrong with that. They countered her request with $25k but only if she signed an NDA. Big problem with that. RM’s net worth exceeds $100M. He can afford to give her the money she needs to pay for counseling. He should compensate her for the pain and suffering he has inflicted upon her, as well. The people making this about money is the offender and his enablers, not the victim.
@polynesia87333 ай бұрын
@@donnaleveron5711 yeah like Morris mentioned she wanted $2 million.
@HeatherRose20233 ай бұрын
@@polynesia8733 And you trust the word of a man who only partially confessed to his crimes when he was confronted with them? You are a fool.
@caroletta4513 ай бұрын
@@HeatherRose2023 Heather Rose, you seem to be a sharp cookie. You don't see that a lot anymore ... Proverbs: Get wisdom. It's the principal thing!
@failauganua24423 ай бұрын
God bless you pastor Robert and God bless the victim & the haters.
@willhammer86653 ай бұрын
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears
@christopherarocha923 ай бұрын
@@willhammer8665 yup
@aubriellemorgan3 ай бұрын
Okay
@sierrawendell67593 ай бұрын
You are supporting a child predator! I pray that someone helps you!!!
@JulieBlair-g6w3 ай бұрын
He was Trump's "spiritual" advisor in the White House! Birds of a feather flock together! 😮
@ladyguenevere35013 ай бұрын
@user...I read he was part of a large "group" that came under the name of advisers.
@donnaleveron57113 ай бұрын
Do get your facts straight. As soon as this became known, he was removed. I don't remember ever seeing him in that group or hearing he was in it until now. Your gleeful statement shows your character.
@caroletta4513 ай бұрын
@@ladyguenevere3501 TRUTH!
@Floridacoastwriter3 ай бұрын
He's worth $117 Million according to Google. He grifted his way into millions begging others to give to God so that you would be blessed. He thought he was god.
@HerbBrown-e6x3 ай бұрын
*Larry Burkett's book on "Giving and Tithing" drew me closer to God and helped my spirituality. 2020 was a year I literally lived it. I cashed in my life savings and gave it all away. My total giving amounted to 40,000 dollars. Everyone thought I was delusional. Today, 1 receive 85,000 dollars every two months. I have a property in Calabasas, CA, and travel a lot. God has promoted me more than once and opened doors for me to live beyond my dreams. God kept to his promises to and for me*
@LeonardYenglin3 ай бұрын
There's wonder working power in following Kingdom principles on giving and tithing. Hallelujah!
@HarrisWay-kc7li3 ай бұрын
But then, how do you get all that in that period of time? What is it you do please, mind sharing?
@HannahMcnicholl3 ай бұрын
It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US and abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus
@HannahMcnicholl3 ай бұрын
Big thanks to Ms. Chisty Fiore❤️✨💯May God bless Christy Fiore services,she have changed thousands of lives globally
@FelixRothbart3 ай бұрын
How can I start this digital market, any guidelines and how can I reach out to her?
@Ocean16883 ай бұрын
So where is he hiding? Greece? ….Instead of facing the truth of what he hid for decades he runs away? And of course his followers are standing with him instead of encouraging him to face everything. The only person who needs support is his victim. Not him.
@garylefevers3 ай бұрын
100% right. And those who stand up for him are deviant minded themselves. Otherwise how could a person have sympathies for anyone except the victim/survivor?
@mariantreber80553 ай бұрын
I'd guess Cuba. ..GITMO. They expanded gitmo in 2017...reasons - pedos and traitors.
@darrendent82883 ай бұрын
Which followers? Most Gateway members actually agree he should step down.
@JewandGreek3 ай бұрын
What do you want from him? He already resigned, and he's not going to prison. You want him to subject himself to a public flogging or something?
@Stella-vd7zn3 ай бұрын
@@JewandGreek @JewandGreek What? Wow?? I can’t believe you wrote that. What would you do if that were someone close to you. Let it be if you can’t show compassion for the victim keep quiet.!!!
@diggingdeeperbiblically14053 ай бұрын
The apology by the church elders was absolutely disgusting. Propping up their church and how it will thrive through this situation. They should be ashamed. There was no real repentance. There was no real remorse or shame over what the pastor did and how they allowed to be in leadership and make millions in the name of Jesus.
@michaelenelson14563 ай бұрын
Not to mention the horrid False doctrine he spewed!
@robertherrera12343 ай бұрын
Imagine being Cindy hearing “ we’re sorry, but look at all the good we’ve done!”
@andeejager17533 ай бұрын
The elders are not responsible for a pastors sins or anyone elses. We are only responsible to Christ for our sins. All any church can do is offer counseling and an apology for a situation that rocks the foundation of peoples faith May we all pray for everyone affected by this terrible situation May we all be reminded that we are to always look to Christ as our Shepherd for He is the Author and finisher of our faith
@kay-pu7hr2 ай бұрын
@@andeejager1753 The elders ARE responsible for not asking more questions when a pastor commits adultery. They accepted his word for it, and now look at the results. His wife knew about it and called Cindy, telling her she "forgave" her. Cindy was a child, NOT a young lady". Robert's sins did find him out. His son's should NOT become the next leaders at Gateway.
@alfonsoobando36163 ай бұрын
The law/act needs to be named the Morris Protection Act.
@jeffreymartin63693 ай бұрын
I like that! Ty ❤
@jasongates-3 ай бұрын
Why name ANYTHING after the perpetrator? We want to forget the perpetrator, not remember him.
@thisisanewday18273 ай бұрын
It is usually named with the victim’s name
@lionbeatscobra3 ай бұрын
How convenient that he waited 35 years so he won't go to jail
@fayejordan1753 ай бұрын
The Lord had nothing to do with his perverted actions!
@tammycaskey69903 ай бұрын
No, duh.
@debbayley21613 ай бұрын
00:37 - The girl was NOT a teenager! She was only 12 years old!
@fayejordan1753 ай бұрын
Robert fails to understand what he did was criminal. He is disgusting.
@sierrawendell67593 ай бұрын
He understands. He just keeps protecting himself!
@jamesdavies5423 ай бұрын
He calls it a “moral failure” it’s not a moral failure it’s firstly a grievous sin, secondly and just as importantly… a crime! But his followers continue to defend this despot
@PCLee3453 ай бұрын
These religious bums like to sugar-coat their crimes, sin, and disgrace. These bums preach and practise "cheap grace." They lack redeeming values!
@ToOpen6seven2 ай бұрын
Yes, a grievous sin is right. RM still operates in a lot of pride and sometimes I wonder if the so called men of God are truly saved.
@JERSEYGUY57-n1r3 ай бұрын
He lied to everyone. He kept saying a young lady, not a child. If his board knew it was a child, they should be accountable. If they didn’t, it’s not on them.
@maryeconomou65733 ай бұрын
The truth will come out!!! Be sure your sin will be found out. God is not mocked.
@desiremansfield16443 ай бұрын
It seems you are without sin yourself.!!!???
@maryeconomou65733 ай бұрын
@@desiremansfield1644 Of course not. But I know I can repent, go to confession and be forgiven. God bless you and allwho come in your heart.
@tammycaskey69903 ай бұрын
@@maryeconomou6573 Catholic. I knew it.
@maryeconomou65733 ай бұрын
@@tammycaskey6990 God bless you too
@mannagrandma3 ай бұрын
I am curious. Do you listen to him regularly because he often mentions the immorality in his teenage years and early in his marriage and how God changed him. He didn't build Gateway Church, God did and He used Pastor Morris to do it. We are not to touch God's annointed.
@Sunnydays4803 ай бұрын
Morris is still manipulating her in his email response, by instilling guilt and fear. The way he plays on her emotions concerning her Father is disturbing. Really quite sickening.
@rebeccaoprea99173 ай бұрын
People always tell on themselves if you look and listen closely.
@JLang-bn3hs3 ай бұрын
Can the people who knew still be tried for obstruction of justice? Is there a statute of limitations on that? The people who knew and covered this up need to serve jail time as well. And I’d like to sue James Robison, Robert Morris, Olen Griffing and Gateway to return the money I “tithed” at Gateway. It was a money stealing scam. Look at whose name is on the deeds of all of Gateway’s properties.
@mariantreber80553 ай бұрын
Tithe money does not go to God. It goes to church employees. You could support needy people directly, like on Just Knate channel. I understand supporting your church but leaders are cashing in!!! God will still bless you.
@sandyjuntunen40883 ай бұрын
That's ridiculous. They knew he had a " relationship" outside marriage. Never had a clue it involved a child. Sue them for what?
@darrendent82883 ай бұрын
@@mariantreber8055 Wrong. Some of the tithe money gets distrubuted towards other missions, countries, ministries. There is tons of evidence of it.
@chrisoneill39993 ай бұрын
You bankrolled a predator, and you think you deserve my sympathy?
@donnaleveron57113 ай бұрын
Agree with your logic, deception was at play. I visited this place in 2008, looking for a church, after about 2 months I decided it was not what I was looking for. Anything I gave, I gave willingly, but never again. My money will go directly to people who need help, I am responsible for that decision. When I see the great needs in our nation, I am sickened by these millionaire pastors and ministers, their earthly kingdoms are going to be burned up, turned to ashes. Awakening and repentance are long overdue!
@robertshows51003 ай бұрын
Bet they are already hiding money
@lefthandedleprechaun87023 ай бұрын
I trust robison about as much as a 4 day old burrito
@sierrawendell67593 ай бұрын
Yes I agree! I never trusted him!
@THETexxStarr3 ай бұрын
Someone needs to ask Olen Griffing if he knew at Shady Grove Church.
@arceneaux663 ай бұрын
He knew.
@carlabarry83533 ай бұрын
It sure does sound like a shady church indeed!
@mchavez11383 ай бұрын
Are they going to include the Catholic Church in this bill? Who were the board members when the church started? Are they still the original members? Anyone who knew of this and didn't say anything is liable. How many people start with asking, "Have you acted inappropriately with a child?" "Have you committed adultery?" How many who act inappropriately boast about their sins?
@caroletta4513 ай бұрын
No, I heard they are not the original members.
@mchavez11383 ай бұрын
Years ago, I walked away from the Catholic Church because of reports that there were priests sexually abusing the altar boys. They were protected by the church and not handed over to authorities. The news about Ps Morris hurts because I attend Gateway Church. Feelings of betrayal and confusion flooded in. The idea of someone in authority and leadership lying to you is a hard pill to swallow. Then I remember, I am not there to worship the pastor or any other person. I am there to have a relationship with God. I am sure he has lost contact with a great number of influencers who were invited to speak at the church. How does one reconcile with a secret such as this? Thank you for answering this question.
@sierrawendell67593 ай бұрын
@@caroletta451 James Robison has always been involved with Gateway
@sierrawendell67593 ай бұрын
They did not ask specific questions, because they did not want to know the true answers. It's disgusting!
@caroletta4513 ай бұрын
@@sierrawendell6759 Then it is very hard to believe he was not aware! Really sad! I heard most of the others are relatively new to Gateway. The guy that was on the hot seat apologizing in the pulpit Sunday has been an elder since 2014. Hope the Board has good insurance!!!
@rondalynch70383 ай бұрын
yes. Frauds
@tammycaskey69903 ай бұрын
There are degrees of Sins. Morris, even though he has been forgiven by God. He and his family needs to step down from any future 'church' duties and positions-all religious involvement. His church members were duped by him.
@joemammatube3 ай бұрын
So, Robinson didn't know the details? How then, did Morrison repent and get reinstated in ministry. Poor management, poor theology, and he is culpable and complicit in the whole thing.
@robertthompson96433 ай бұрын
Cindy did not say the abuse started at age 12 when the original meeting took place. She was still under threat from Robert in 89. So the full extent of the abuse was not known until now when Cindy spoke out.
@sierrawendell67593 ай бұрын
@@robertthompson9643 Were you at the meeting? How would you know what she said? Good Grief!!!
@iaingraham75863 ай бұрын
@@sierrawendell6759 Robison produced letters saying he was not at meetings between Morris and Clemishire's family. (Clemishire backs him up on that specific point) That said, the letters would simply prove that Robison wasn't at those those specific meetings. (if accurate) If the letters state that he wasn't present at specific meetings, that's all they can prove conclusively. Robison denies knowing that Cemishire was underage when the abuse began. He (Robison) says he first discovered that information in recent media reports along with the rest of the public. He does say he knew Morris had a prior moral failing. (his wording) If Morris worked for Robison in a Ministry capacity after stepping away from preaching due to a stated "moral failing" ; then why didn't Robison make it a point to find out what this "moral failure" entailed? (if Morris was working for his Ministry at the time in question) Robison is not accused of abuse himself in this matter. He is not facing any charges in this situation, and has not had a civil judgement against him in this situation.
@GwendaOates-kp7de3 ай бұрын
He has a lying problem also.
@shelleybuerer45023 ай бұрын
I hope they’re sued! Other churches that hide these criminal acts should be very concerned with their hiding criminal acts too.
@johnpaulwebb34403 ай бұрын
And got away with it.
@darrellf69363 ай бұрын
I thought if the victim was under 18 then there was no time limit to be charged criminaly?
@iaingraham75863 ай бұрын
If the law in question was passed after this crime occurred ; then it may only remove the statute of limitations for crimes that occurred after the legislation was passed. (that's likely what a court would decide) if that's the argument that comes up on appeal, if Morris were charged in this situation. He has not been charged with a crime in this matter, as I write this response.
@c.greystone98253 ай бұрын
Firestone I heard that a board should be sued. Now that’s a good thing!
@mannagrandma3 ай бұрын
This was horrible. Sad that it ever happened. Let's remember that if was 35 years ago. He went with Debbie to meet with this family and asked for their forgiveness. Which the woman says they gave. Now she says they did not give their blessing for him to be in ministry. I am not sure that I have that authority or that anyone else does either. God calls preachers into ministry. Pastor Morris did not build Gateway Church, God did and He used Pastor Morris to do it. We need to be careful here as we are not to touch God's annointed.
@jorgemarin73033 ай бұрын
Another phony a TV and net work that’s playing stupid
@barbarajones75023 ай бұрын
Why did it take her so long to come forward ?
@sherrills.23323 ай бұрын
Amen!! Hold all elders accountable
@rhondaschraub7713 ай бұрын
Evidentially Texas does have a statute of limitations. Makes me so angry.
@destinyandpurpose3 ай бұрын
Yes, but the statute of limitations is not retro active for this.
@isimbiryayesu3 ай бұрын
All I know is that he helped me in my spiritual journey. I love ❤️ him
@rogerhernandez96753 ай бұрын
I like that...change the laws protect the children & people from evil doers were humans evil slips thru the cracks that are not governored by laws
@MTknitter223 ай бұрын
He has yet to face his congregation. A statement as was released is not the honorable thing to do. The Elder put in that position this morning was not right.
@darrendent82883 ай бұрын
Why should he have to face his congregation when hes already resigned?
@ChangingTides7773 ай бұрын
He resigned, therefore it's not his congregation and he will never face it. Coward.
@MTknitter223 ай бұрын
@@ChangingTides777 exactly. Shocking to me that those in congregation think that’s ok for him to hide, release a statement and not even face the people he pastored. Pretty low standards for character and basic integrity expected of the leader. It is starting to tell us a lot about the Quality of Biblical teaching there. The poor Elder. He appeared as if the elders drew straws and this poor gentleman drew the short one. Then he goes out to read a statement more crafted by lawyers than the Word of God. I pray for the victim, Robert Morris and the church. I don’t think this is over at all.
@centariprime99593 ай бұрын
Why can't Morris go to jail? There is no Statute of Limitations in Texas for the crimes of which he is accused.
@destinyandpurpose3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, the statute of limitations is not retro active.
@centariprime99593 ай бұрын
@@destinyandpurpose When was the law changed to no limit?
@CMMC-immigration3 ай бұрын
This James is also not a good God’s disciple either.
@sandyjuntunen40883 ай бұрын
False accusation. Are YOU a good disciple?
@HeatherRose20233 ай бұрын
@@sandyjuntunen4088 Why did James Robison not know more about the details of the sin? He gave Robert Morris a job after the “moral failure” occurred, after all. Did JR just blindly trust the word of a confessed cheater? And why was JR not interested in the “young lady” being “restored”? Wake up and smell the coffee. This was a cover up from the start to avoid a scandal that would shut down their lucrative cash cow ministry. RM is a predator and JR et al. enabled him.
@HeatherRose20233 ай бұрын
I have never trusted the Robison’s. There is too much emotional hyperbole coming from his mouth and not enough sound logical doctrine.
@exuberant83853 ай бұрын
I hope the laws not only change to include elders, those under the pastor, but those above these pastors that know. Also include Catholics and all religions, like latter day saints.
@sierrawendell67593 ай бұрын
And the Spouses
@warrenroy53763 ай бұрын
One thing I am very passionate about Robert Morris. In 2005 rather trying to get her to sign a NDA he should have signed an agreement to stay 100% out of her life, to avoid all contact with her! He should totally 100% leave her alone and agree to have absolutely nothing to do with her! And then offer $200,000 rather than $50,000 which she wanted!(See Luke 19:1-10).
@benjaminwilson48753 ай бұрын
They should name the bill extending the statue of limitations for child rapists the "Robert Morris Bill". . . . .
@kimspicer90383 ай бұрын
And this, that the Lord orchestrated things so that he could step out of ministry??? NO. He should have got out and stayed out whatever the circumstances. It's clear that he still had a price problem if he thought he was so important that he couldn't get out unless God arranged it so. Scripture is clear. He was no longer qualified to pastor from that point on.
@deborahbourg83813 ай бұрын
Why can't he go to jail. There will be consequences. Very selfish act. That young lady is an overcomer by the blood of the lamb and the word of her testimony!! We all have to STAND before the lord
@gabecossio29233 ай бұрын
I get the impression James Robison isn’t being honest.Maybe it’s just me. I don’t trust televangelists.
@marilynharmon54673 ай бұрын
Because now everything is being shaken ,Jesus is coming
@WillieMonden3 ай бұрын
Yes, you would like to sue & get rich, read your BIBLE, MONEY CHASER!!!
@gordonteats2983 ай бұрын
Jesus forgave him , praise YESHUA
@mosimosi6303 ай бұрын
So you think he was going to put that in a book 😂😂😂 you people don’t know charlatans and James Robinson is lying he knew the whole thing
@Brujula_Nomada3 ай бұрын
Never fails, the backpedaling. *NEVER!*
@oladeebiazazi45383 ай бұрын
You know these kind of crimes hit different when they happen in your hometown.
@robertherrera12343 ай бұрын
Next book: Destiny to Reality
@christinemus9893 ай бұрын
God is cleaning house
@bryanpetersen13343 ай бұрын
I’m sure it was just the one
@heatherkneeland-ry4xm3 ай бұрын
A 12 year old is not a teenager
@kelliewhitaker7773 ай бұрын
Horrible.
@WilliamAllikzander3 ай бұрын
Western Culture Values Of The True CHRISTIAN are on ON DISPLAY with this man. Pay attention. This is what these people have ALWAYS been about.
@stanleymays27103 ай бұрын
Jesus Christ loves you more than you hate Him and His followers !
@donnaleveron57113 ай бұрын
Spoken like a true mocker, broad generalization based on a limited number of observances at a distance. You have no knowledge of what the true believers do. Jesus Christ was the only perfect man to walk the earth, He died for the sin of mankind, you included, then rose again and sits at the right hand of the Father, making intercession for us.