What 164 IQ Mass Killer Looks Like | The Interrogation of Thayne Ormsby

[@dienglish7777]

This Norman Bates meets Tom Cruise kid is rather unsettling.

[@MsggieB.6870]

I WAS 🤔 THE SAME THING!! BUT COULDN'T PUT MY FINGER ON IT!!

[@JohnnyRep-u4e]

@@MsggieB.6870 - Did you put your finger on the bottle?

[@deepflip9795]

Hell ya i was thinking Norman Cruise😂

[@exquisitebiscuit]

Big time Tom Cruise vibes....

[@keithconley982]

It was that or Val Kilmer

[@Bette921]

I have seen this before but it never gets old. These detectives played this narcissist like a fiddle.

[@AutismMaMa123]

The only kind of person that can be so evil has to have this kind of ego . This why I fear people that truly believe they are irresistible and when someone feeds his ego he automatically opens up to show that evil thinking only someone who understands how great he is truly admiring him not realizing at all that even a blind person could see everyone knows he is a evil idiot . He wanted that old man to tell him how great he was and tell him he was a hero

[@jennifermaddy2442]

That detective had him bang to rights

[@vvatchnlearnk3555]

Facts

[@Michael-oo4yc]

Totally agree

[@LeahDyson-kq4bd]

Amity and AMITYville coincidence 🤔

[@Swellington_]

I see absolutely nothing from him that indicates intelligent,hes arrogant and thinks hes smarter than most but he really isnt,typical of a 20 something

[@InterestsMayVary2234]

Agreed. He doesn't display extreme intelligence whether he has it or not.

[@ecaparts]

True. I’m not hearing any Brilliance from this kid, only BS… 😂 Intelligence is very subjective. He could be great at math or taking tests but he seems annoying to talk to. That seems to be true with other killers with high IQs, they are great at something but suck at socializing.

[@BobBuilder-vn4ux]

I think OP just used basically the same clickbait that like 5 other people used when they posted this interrogation.

[@Swellington_]

@@BobBuilder-vn4ux seems like it

[@kingofallplants3775]

Hes definitely smart. Just not a genius. The IQ score in the title is definitely over exaggerating

[@Argelius1]

Wouldn't an innocent person pretty quickly ask "why are you so interested in my past and all these irrelevant details about my life?"

[@Josh-x9q4y]

The same delusion that caused the crime, causes this lack of insight in the interrogation room. I'm smarter than everyone and I will get away with this

[@GameChanger597]

​@@Josh-x9q4yalso the fact that they love talking about themselves and nothing is more entertaining and exciting to them than having someone interested in them.

[@katarzynagrabosz2709]

It just shows how he loves to have everything about himself ! Narcissist at its best !!!

[@loriclem6889]

What on earth was in that coffee

[@drewfromyay882]

A sensible person wouldn't go down to the station in the first place

[@latinaalma1947]

This first interrogator is incredible...I am a professor of clinical psych and am amazed. It is like they are sitting around chatting at a party gossiping...kudos to you sir!

[@jimjambananaslam3596]

I get the impression he envisions himself as a character in a book and kind of controls conversations to feel like dialogue from a novel. The whole time he was talking about himself and people he knows, it was like he was narrating.

[@ino7604]

​@jimjambananaslam3596 agreed. I think narcissists view themselves as the protagonist at all times. They're smarter. More competent. Better looking etc. Than everyone else. And they "know" it. Well the detectives know that's how you feel too. And they're gonna use that to get you to talk more

[@EvanConnock-k8o]

Masterful, he puts the accused at ease... all very conversational, builds report and lulls him into being totally conversational in his confession. It's as if they are all having the conversation as spectators of the event. Of interest is that he unburdens himself of the secret he has been carrying. Just lets himself go once he realises he's already exposed his guilt. The questions keep coming not allowing him to stop and think about the consequences of his actions.

[@cosmoshiva4643]

Did anybody notice that the detectives left the door ajar and positioned Thayne's chair within reach of it? This is an interrogation tactic that takes the rapport to a whole other level. The detectives are the ones with high IQs.

[@nomorebushz]

Therapy session... kid ain't a deep thinker, to continue the jovial banter.

[@limitlesspotential9599]

25:16 these detectives are so good that it’s unbelievable under rated. They know exactly where their going. Do it so smooth. Even reading him his rights and get him to explain it. These guys did a great job

[@johnwatson9518]

It's called the diabolical 9 Step Reid Technique of Interrogation. Been around since 1950's.

[@janewaterfield648]

Russell Williams was an interesting person to view during his interrogation. The detective was excellent.

[@ryancollinsvideo]

Best one ive seen​@janewaterfield648

[@elizabethmountain525]

He has a high opinion of himself. Not much care or sorrow for those he murdered and their families. Maybe during his long years in prison he can take the time to think what those three could have done with their lives if he had let them live.

[@sherryw1919]

Indeed, hey have the art & science of interrogations mastered, esp the lead Det. I've worked with & been trained by some very talented Det.s. He's excellent, esp with gauging/reading his quarry re how/when to move it fwd.

[@JohnLaw_YT]

“I don’t want my name in the newspapers” - Dude murdered an entire family…

[@meredithcarlson9920]

Right?!

[@gabe_2544]

I think it was his attempt to appear to the detectives like he wasn’t proud of what he did (when he really was).

[@patrickmba7638]

Yeah. A bit late for that..

[@Kiz-qh4gf]

deserves the death sentence im sorry but come on… Maine absolutely feels like a state that does not have a death sentence. No i did not look it up yet but “Maine” it just oozes “no death sentence”.

[@tekfunk6299]

"Why didnt you tell me you had a bike? " "I dont wanna be confused with biker gangs" "A pedal bike?"

[@JayBeeThree]

I saw The Goonies. Those biker gangs exist.

[@justinbond558]

Those gangs exist in every movie with child bullying… 😂

[@terribongers2465]

@@JayBeeThree😂😂😂

[@BrendaBaBoom]

😂🤣😂

[@NikkiChap114]

😂😂

[@seanmadison6360]

The funny thing about narcissists is that they THINK they are fooling everyone when in fact they fool very few.

[@Flotter-Flo]

they actually tend to rigidly screen people they hang out with a lot in regards to their gullibility. if they have common sense and are at ease with themselves, they wont go near them. only the insecure and submissive. they go after the easy prey... just like all predators.

[@kayecastleman6353]

Not necessarily. Many are expert manipulators. They can portray a carefully cultivated image to friends and family of their targets, to co-workers, neighbours, etc. It's quite amazing how much effort some will put into this. It's true that a lot of people aren't fooled, especially if they've run across this behaviour before. Some will just feel there's something "off," but not know exactly what. But many people don't see through it and are completely taken in.

[@MsTtilly]

The person he fooled was himself!

[@jennibartlett2029]

3why do you have a member of the old man’s pedophile club representing

[@janewaterfield648]

​@@kayecastleman6353 There is a KZbin channel, H.G. Tudor. He admits to being a narcissists. He is well spoken and articulate. He explains the behaviour of being a narcissists. It is interesting to listen to him.

[@gcm9572]

This investigator is amazing!! Thayne: “ I don’t want my name in the paper.” No, but KZbin has your interview!!!!!

[@TanyaDavis954]

😂

[@heckmanwasuna]

A kid tells you he's scared, and you stab him? This guy is a devil.

[@Leesaloves]

I could have been fooled by him😮

[@jesusislordsoontoreturn2178]

Your 💯 correct, satan was chasing that poor boy down to end his life. Could you imagine the fear that boy felt. It's sad. He killed that child because he loves to kill I think. He could have come back another day when the boy wasn't there but no, he wanted to kill. They asked him if he wouldn't have been caught would he kill again and he says no. I don't believe that.

[@britth5333]

I know thinking of that poor kid so scared makes me so sad.

[@zenithperigee7442]

@@Leesaloves , it's a scary thought. Just consider all of the women the infamous Ted Bundy took from this world. He certainly didn't show up for a date with a "garrote" in-hand. Rather portrayed himself as allegedly reasonably intellectual/charming even. It really goes back to what God Himself said in 1 Corinthians 2:11 wherein He expresses that basically no one knows the thoughts of a man but the man himself. We know that daily interactions with strangers can end up being a tragedy but perhaps even more dangerous besides "dating" is more personal interactions with people, putting ourselves in situations where we're alone with someone, inviting someone into our lives and homes etc. We don't lock ourselves in a closet but we do need to be more cautious and pray for Father God's protection! I thank Him for protecting me and my Family to this point in time. I mourn & pray for individuals and families who've become victims of these deranged individuals who walk amongst us....

[@zenithperigee7442]

@@britth5333 , it's heartbreaking.... He barely began to live his life and yet his life was stolen from him because "He would've been a witness to my evil!" And the murderer then was giving some indication that the boy might've been better off having left this world is what I'm getting from his attitude in as much as he actually tried to claim that "Maybe Jeff's kids are better off growing up without their Father...." Then he cries when his own freedom to exist outside of a prison is taken away. Just unbelievable.

[@TheOnlyGuitarFather]

“I still have a love for things that grow”- proceeds to murder a 10year old boy Prime example of a psychopath

[@michaelb.42112]

I can't imagine the terror that poor boy felt. When I was nine I was still calling my mom mommy. SICK MOTHER F***ER !!!

[@AnandaSea]

The most-telling statement. 😢 He's not a war veteran or is he actually, in our system?

[@zenithperigee7442]

@TheOnlyGuitarFather, just finally finished watching. This was one of the most insane cases. If I understood correctly as I was my mobile was popping in and out whilst I was doing other things but he took "Jeff's" life because he HEARD "He was a drug deal and other bad stuff about him" despite the fact "Jeff" was trying to "help" Thayne and then he took the lives of Jason and Jesse because they would be "witnesses".... And.... That's the whole story. This 22 yr old murderer lived in an alternate reality of "quotes" and "stories" he read and "rumors about people." I can't believe these lives, especially a 10 yr old boy's where he had barely begun to live, were all ended due to a freak's mental delusions.... And where do they get the "164 IQ". Might want to recheck the placement of the decimal point, likely "16.4" & that's being generous. Something really had to mess his head up to be so deranged.

[@billybunter3753]

​@@zenithperigee7442 😂 Yeah, he was no where near as smart as he thought he was. I'm sure at one stage there he thought he was going to be on special assignments for the CIA due to his "professionalism" 😂😂😂

[@mattmatt6572]

Raised by two moms what would you expect

[@Richard_HowdyDoody]

He was inordinately proud that his girl friend considered him "gorgeous". Bubba in Cell Block B will also consider him gorgeous.

[@kaydot1975]

Bubba is 6 ft 5 and 300lb hopefully

[@silat13]

Well thanks for letting us all know that you support rape.

[@MsggieB.6870]

I knew a buba that was 6'7 300lbs! My X! In for 8+ 10yrs. For hurting a Patrot, football player. Finally got out and passed away 3yrs ago now! But I'm sure they have other BUBAs for him! Also lived in Cambridge, Maine 6yrs. My Daughter lives there now!

[@raphaellavictoria01]

What always strikes me in these interrogations is that these suspects don't ever ask, why the heck are you asking me these questions, who do I respect, etc? Instead they happily chat for hours on end about themselves. About his virginity and all. Insane.

[@PamelaH_HappyVibes]

@@MsggieB.6870- which player was it? My Husband is from Massachusetts.

[@coralhammond3100]

Truly clever people keep their mouths shut except to call a lawyer.

[@bearacuda3338]

Yeah, there's no proof IQ makes you cunning

[@oliviamedina3262]

Exactly

[@Jerry-b7f]

Truly clever people don't kill three innocent people with their bare hands and a knife

[@scottphillips7524]

It wouldn't have mattered. They had him anyway

[@ID30394]

​@@Jerry-b7f Only in a self defense scenario.

[@lulus704]

"We're arresting you for 3 murders."... "Could I maybe finish my coffee first?" wow this arrogant psychopath.

[@SusanW-pn8mk]

All abouthim!

[@pamelacorbett8774]

Yes, and body language so relaxed.

[@PB22559]

Lol Did you expect him to be normal after murdering 3 innocent people?

[@Deedster56]

“I see a young SMART guy” says he. The verdict is still out on that one, buddy!

[@rosiegirl2485]

He started drinking that small cup of coffee at the beginning of the interview. That coffee should have been long gone by that time. As for being really smart, doesn't he realize that the coddling is over now that he just gave them all the details that they were looking for. That means no more McDonalds for you, young man. You should have accepted the Big Mac when you had the chance! May God bless the victims and their families, and may God have mercy on this young man's soul! 🙏

[@mikezbr]

When they ask you, "what type of person would do something like this? "...you're cooked!

[@Laname-Destupid]

If someone asked me that, I'd answer "Oh, the Reid tecknique? You'll have to do better than that"

[@mariusvanc]

You guys are the professionals, and you're asking me for help? You're screwed!

[@_jaded]

@@Laname-Destupid😂😂

[@GuaranteedEtern]

"Look.... I don't think you're a bad guy..."

[@katybug6572]

@@Laname-Destupidlol facts

[@CherubsRock]

i love how the detective just lets him break everything down and he actually answers everything like a twat

[@anniejohnson2648]

He reminds me SO MUCH of Tom Cruise. It's not so much his appearance. It's the way he speaks and carries himself. It's eerie! Christian Bale even said when preparing for his role in "American Psycho" that he "studied" Cruise and his mannerisms.

[@dfadden62]

Why? Cruise is not a killer.

[@9babyblu]

​@@dfadden62 He's an absolute arrogant creep. Easily turn Cruise's mannerisms into a serial killer.

[@amcc5887]

Tom cruise???

[@EchosNarcissis]

What do u mean questioing why Bale would have studied Tom Cruise?? Cruise is the PERFECT American psycho character study. Why would u even question thisss?

[@gretagroce9072]

It's his side facial profile. Similar head shape, eyebrows and particularly, his nose. A frontal view is a little less like Cruise. Seems like he had a mission to kill Jeff based on his perspective on good versus evil. The two other victims were probably collateral damage in his mind.

[@khamael7]

Detective: Is there anything you want to tell his family? Thayne: Tell them, he died bravely... Cold blooded bastard

[@jennifermaddy2442]

That monster has absolutely no remorse

[@JoryBarrett]

@@jennifermaddy2442 hes got a good sense of humor

[@aaronwalderslade]

How about WHY???

[@motherbear327]

He's so detached. You learn that in childhood when you're raised in abusive home. Not making excuses for him, just stating the truth. MOST prisoners were raised in abusive homes.

[@brendafayepatten3312]

He obviously watched Princess Bride a few times.

[@stephenburdell5844]

This Detective is very extremly well seasoned. Nice job sir. Thank You for your service. Thank You.🙂

[@doubleot1984]

Couldn't even get the victims names straight like 15 times.

[@Timmy9384]

I think he's married

[@doublingdown1736]

Yes, love this detective, he’s a smooth operator, lol!

[@gtaylor6937]

This guy reminds me of JD Vance. "I know a lot about the state and I know how I can help. What I know about authority is that it was taken on a point, a sword, for God." Authorities: "OK, I guess we're leaving now." STATE: Convicts him for murdering three people.

[@krmccarrell]

​@gtaylor6937 Hi there, I didn't understand what Thayne was saying about authority, that it's taken on a point, a sword, for God? Is that a Shakespearean reference? Can you help me with that at all? Thanks.

[@judithrix-brown8790]

Psychopathic monsters walk among us. They can appear regular like this guy, but he uses that as part of a ruse to get people to trust him before he does them harm.

[@judithrix-brown8790]

This guy is a regular American Psycho... Born and bred!

[@adelaidemarie]

How many politicians fit this bill?

[@Veggamattic]

They are very very rare and should not scare you.

[@jonahspear4710]

1 in 100 people is not that rare

[@elisabeth400]

​@@Veggamattic They are not rare, about 3-5% of general population.

[@wildwest1832]

The crazy thing is he just randomly out of nowhere from a normal conversation killed all of them. Not one of them had any clue

[@jouwlovestory4919]

😊😊

[@patrickmba7638]

The sheer terror each victim must have felt! I wonder how prison life has treated him so far, given inmates don't take too kindly to child killers.

[@Debi-n2o]

​@patrickmba7638 I wish that were true about child killers in prison but I don't hear about all these child killers getting killed. Just Dahmer.

[@latetotheparty184]

I didn't know that and I just started the video, HOLY CRAP.

[@goldenrulebanner2896]

My friend is a prison guard. It happens.​@@Debi-n2o

[@christopherwhittaker2620]

One of the most disturbing things I’ve ever watched in my 58 years. The matter of fact way he spoke about it once he did start to be honest was so cold it sent cold shivers through me.

[@V1124az]

Mr. 164 IQ CLEARLY never learned that the alcohol in his beer, and the Nicotine in his cigarettes, and that joint he smoked- all are classified as drugs.😂

[@urdadshusband781]

Words don't have meanings they have usages. And clearly he doesn't see those as drugs

[@Godhatesgays32]

​@urdadshusband781 ?? I smoke drink and get high daily and I know each is a drug.. words don't have meaning? That's possibly the dumbest sht iv ever heard in my adult life..

[@IAMinCOMMAND32]

Intelligence does not equal "smart". It's an aptitude of pattern recognition, creativity, and thinking patterns. One can be incredibly intelligent, but lack fundamental knowledge of even elementary things.

[@kungfreddie]

​@@urdadshusband781a word doesn't have usage if it doesn't have a meaning.

[@jennifermaddy2442]

Yes he murders Jeff because he was a drug dealer but smoked a joint just before it.Omg he's such a narcissistic physcopath

[@lumieresetombres9309]

He's coming to the police station to help solve a crime and ends up answering all sorts of questions about his personal life. He never asked why were the detectives asking so many questions about him? It had nothing to do with why he was there in the first place...

[@GUAMANIANable]

I noticed that. Happy to be talking about himself. Never considered what was behind it.

[@kathleenchaffin2591]

He's flattered

[@Nomorewarsforisrael]

I’m not seeing the 164 IQ, actually the main thing shining through is his cringy insincerity.

[@urdadshusband781]

If your IQ is 100 which it is probably close and his is 164 you are WAY closer to being intellectually handicapped than you are to his intelligence. So it's not surprising you cannot appreciate it

[@zenithperigee7442]

@Nomorewarsforisrael, same, I figure there was an error in the placement of the decimal point, could only be "16.4", "1.64" or "0.164"....

[@mandelish]

Exactly, he planned it for days with this result ?! Idiot would thought of something better. Wanted to kill one in a situation where there were a couple of people around? Besides his motive is idiotic at least I don't buy it...He wanted to show himself as a humanitarian who clears the earth of evil people. He probably got pissed off because he didn't get what he wanted from the guy and he thought he was disrespected.

[@csengo70]

Yeah, his iq is not high. Average I'd say

[@urdadshusband781]

@@csengo70 you have an average IQ your opinion is invalid

[@Dorothy-j8c]

This was a very good true crime video. I saw it the first time, about a year ago. I was just reminded how well trained and professional those detectives were. This story is just so sad all around. But a good video. Thanks.

[@motherbear327]

He's not wrong; children are raised by the school system and their peers. Stats--80% of parents think the school is supposed to teach and take of their children's mental health. As if they, the parents, have nothing to do with raising or influencing the child. Parents need to be proactive and intentional in their parenting responsibilities.

[@suzziezhills]

They’re just too busy for that!

[@cpncorndogg]

Raised by the school system I would not go that far. If you are a good parent and take it seriously, the time spent with you will be more formative than anytime spend in school or with their peers.

[@michaeldebidart]

49:56 imagine being so narcissistic and delusional to ask a homicide detective to bring you a joint while you’re being interrogated for a triple homicide

[@christonacouch5550]

That’s some real deal American Psycho stuff lol

[@cordeliadaniels7737]

Really

[@audengrumet3985]

Imagine WANTING to get stoned at that moment! WTF? Worse than tripping on an airplane.

[@forgottonbabyforgottendeca1483]

Weed is actually a medicine it's no different than a Xanax it calms a person down get educated on THC people you're way behind in life 🙄

[@forgottonbabyforgottendeca1483]

​@@audengrumet3985educate yourself tripping on acid is a little bit different than weed/a joint this is 2024 people 🙄

[@ElizabethTheunissen-pi3vi]

Excellent detective work and the interrogation was perfect. Kudos, officers. Thank God for your intelligence, psychological prowess and patience.

[@Leoprincess3038]

You can tell when he knows hes caught and they ask him questions he didnt prepare for; he starts repeating their questions before answering, bombarding them with word salad/talking them in circles, he TRIES to keep it cool but he knows hes done....he knows it

[@kurtcsk]

You thought you were better than a drug dealer and you killed 3 people including a child...

[@mandelish]

That is bulls@$ he said that this was his motive to play a great humanitarian hero. He really took these guys for morons.

[@jasoncoward-aintscared]

I've seen a few other videos about this guy from other TC channels. This is the best one Ive seen by a longshot. Well done.

[@annikafrolander7903]

The killer, the detective, the rhythm of the interrogation. Masterful, powerful. No film director needed. Leaves you with all the important questions. Thanks!

[@jamesexploringonline872]

This creep has shown no remorse for his actions, despite causing harm to three innocent people, including a young child. It's sickening to witness such callousness. My thoughts are with the victims' families and friends. This individual will ultimately face judgment from a higher power.

[@uriahweibley5191]

“You probably know the constitution better than I do” lol dude was gassing his up hard 😂

[@marksnyder6120]

And the kid is so arrogant he falls right for it. Hook, line and sinker! 😅

[@projectj3494]

Seeing how many cops don’t know the constitution, the same constitution they swore an oath to, that statement was probably true..

[@kingofallplants3775]

In my opinion it's very clear from the first time I saw him that he's deceiving. Mostly the facial expressions give it away. He's very calm which is unusual in an interrogation. The reason he's able to do this is because he is the type of person who is in a state of constant deceit. He's probably never been real with anyone. So hes just playing a character, like an actor in a movie, and he's had a lot of practice.

[@SunShinyDaysPlease]

Nah. He's just a sociopath.

[@katybug6572]

Yup

[@Lov17213]

You’re describing a person on the antisocial personality disorder spectrum. I’d have to know more to determine if he’s a psychopath/sociopath/narcissistic/borderline, etc…but, it does appear he has a very poorly developed conscience or no conscience at all.

[@BigBoyAlbee]

He murdered 3 people including a 10 year old boy. What more do u need to know ffs ​@Lov17213

[@edwardanderson2717]

Does anyone else think it was to rob stuff off them , it doesn’t make sense he’s against that stuff and smokes a joint with them !!

[@Jim_L]

I love this questioning technique of the one detective. He first lays down a scary, intense question or statement, but then quickly follows it up with a softening phrase. Here are two instances of what I mean: "Did you forget that? It's okay if you did." "Your DNA is in that bottle. Explain that to me. That doesn't mean you did anything wrong." That ending statement of the detective takes the sting out what he just presented to the suspect. I watch a lot of these sorts of videos, and I'd never come across this style before, but I really like it. 👍

[@allisclampMN22]

Totally agree! Great observation

[@Jim_L]

@@allisclampMN22 Hey, thanks much! 😃

[@KFCA194]

thank you

[@amstergal]

Just curious, did you ever watch “The Sopranos?”

[@KFCA194]

@@amstergallol yes -why

[@TVerc-]

Smart people know you don't talk to the cops. You're not in the bar you're in a interrogation room.

[@Fitness4London]

Thayne has the creepy intensity of Tom Cruise, both in body language and the way he speaks.

[@IsabelsHonor]

YESSS, I also thought of Tom Cruise.

[@ID30394]

What's most mind boggling to me is that for being so smart he still didn't have good enough judgment to simply remain silent. It's something you should always do whether you're innocent or not. People can inadvertently say things that could do them harm. Saying nothing should never be construed as guilt.

[@krispeterson1021]

His ego..wouldn't allow that

[@Senorzilchnzero]

But even innocent people are afraid to ask for a lawyer because it comes off as something only a guilty person might do

[@ID30394]

@Senorzilchnzero Fear will get innocent in jail. Anyone who's been caught up in the system at least a couple times will learn that. Who cares what people think.

[@Mmolonn]

I’ve watched this several times before and I’m always amazed at the detective’s patience with him especially as he’s it’s a child killer he’s looking at. The 2 adults were ambushed and impaired but would have had a chance to fight back. The kid, Jessie, that’s the dirtiest fight any adult could ever get into. A child!!!

[@charlette1120]

THIS!

[@BaxterBlue]

Please use punctuation. It was extremely hard to read.

[@genericamerican7574]

@@BaxterBlue do you offer free classes on the weekends in the evenings?

[@whyucare24]

​@@genericamerican7574🤣...that was a petty comment

[@BaxterBlue]

@@genericamerican7574 You apparently need them, as well.

[@badinfluence3814]

The exchange at 46.08-46.15 was fascinating, the killer sarcastically says 'You know everything' and then, 'I know more', and the detective replies, '...and soon you're going to know that I know, that you know that I know that, right? You follow that?' Great response to signs of bad attitude from this punk

[@alan8887]

Whats scary is how normal he comes across at the beginning knowing he's really a monster from the dark depths of hell.

[@badinfluence3814]

I wouldn't say he comes across as 'normal' at the beginning.

[@LevityBrevity]

Agree

[@katarzynagrabosz2709]

If you have an experience on seeing through this artificial normal behaviour, you will see how inadequate it is to the situation he is in . No normal person accused of sth like he did would behave like that … and also his word salat … just so obvious a huge lie ! Studying the subject of narcissistic disorder helps a lot . Not every narcissist is a psychopath but me very psychopath is a narcissist!

[@XpurlX]

The scary part of this tale is that someone like this apparently normal looking guy can be your next door neighbour!

[@mandelish]

Yes, we work with them, date them, and live next door to them...

[@Gregarius91]

Bundy had a lot of letters in prison. They awaken something primal in women.

[@LilyBecca]

Most of them do look and present as quite normal and sometimes even charming. Ted Bundy, Chris Watts, Scott Peterson. They were all the all American guy next door.

[@frankyymilkyy9001]

@@Gregarius91 death drive? 💀

[@Gregarius91]

@frankyymilkyy9001 I think serial killers signal to women that they are dominant hunters. Women will gravitate toward top hunters who can dominate others and then hide behind lies such as thinking he was innocent to cover the primal attraction because it is not socially acceptable. The man who is a serial killer must be attractive otherwise, he would be seen as a creep.

[@AABB-bm9kk]

Very dangerous individual: Deeply disturbed with an outward “good nature”. I’ve watched a lot of true crime and he’s one of the most bizarre with his “non-bizarre” presentation.✌️

[@1027scool]

He's playing a role, imitating how he thinks he should act. Nothing genuine about this person.

[@michaelcalland801]

@@1027scool Dude gives me a “ Dexter” vibe… Trying hard to blend in with normal people

[@bilhelmguitarworks9297]

Yea this. Very high on the superficiality scale

[@MostlyLoveOfMusic]

he is very relatable

[@kathismith7441]

Most psychopaths are good natured that’s why they’re so dangerous.

[@bunnybeebee-c3t]

Thanks!

[@hollieweible5680]

Thank you, Stranger Stories!! I'm constantly checking to see when your next video drops! ❤ You never disappoint!!

[@BrigitteGoodman]

Are you getting pleasure out of such videos? Very strange...

[@jenk.6196]

“It doesn’t make you a bad guy.” Famous psychological interrogation tactic of detectives. Except in this case it’s the most blatant lie this detective ever uttered. Because I think most people would agree that murdering a 10-year-old child is the very definition of “bad guy”. The only thing that went “horribly wrong” in that scenario is this child had the misfortune of being in the same room with a psychopath. 😢😢😢

[@gtaylor6937]

Since Russel Williams and Chris Watts, I think we've all seen that these freaks want more than anything to not be thought of as a "bad guy" no matter how horrific their crimes. These detectives used it on Ormsby with true mastery. Wow.

[@Kitten_Mittons]

Yeah, detectives need better techniques. But they deal with a lot of dummies so I guess it mostly works for them

[@jenk.6196]

@@Kitten_Mittons True. :)

[@lizolson282]

Thank you for the professional way he was interrogated for the questioning to try to get a picture of what was in his intellect. May God have mercy on his soul and may he repent of his sins. 🙏✝️🕊️😥

[@sacb0y]

Actual American Psycho behavior.

[@hlessil835]

Ew, no. Christian Bale was suave and charming albeit murdery. This kid's just a pimplefaced dork that struggled to get laid. He was larping being an assassin.

[@Williamb612]

not someone who “behaves” like an American psycho”…. he is an American Psycho

[@Williamb612]

Whether he acts or looks like whatever, his IQ is 165…and let’s remember IQ only means how intelligent you are, not how “emotionally” intelligent you are. Many high IQ people have been serial killers over the years, Ted Buddy was, however emotionally they are immature, and mostly cannot even feel anything, which enables them to kill, as it means nothing to them and is no more intense than eating waffles for breakfast I am convinced my son in law is a psychopath who emulates feelings in order to fit in, however could kill anyone anytime anywhere if he chooses to, and would feel nothing. Actually he may have multiple times and we would never know it

[@Williamb612]

Never talk to the police whether you are innocent or guilty…NEVER. If you can’t afford a lawyer one will be appointed to you. People often think not talking and getting a lawyer is an indicator of guilt, it is not!!…it is an indicator of being cautious and smart

[@larkatmic]

⁠@@Williamb612There are many narcissist’s among us who are awful people. Many don’t act out in this way. Some do. When you run across one. You can feel the darkness within that resides in them. They prey on the naive and gullible. Gaslighting their victims to no end. Best to not trigger, but play with their ego like these interrogators are doing and stay clear of them if ossicle. I’m sorry for your daughter or anyone who is in a relationship with someone who has a narcissistic psychopath disorder. Their souls are empty.

[@hearliestheglobe8423]

"Little did Thayne know, this time was no different" 🤣🤣 Brilliant one-liner!

[@josmclove4426]

😂😂🤣🤣

[@rookbunker]

Now THIS! This is a great interrogation! I’m so tired of all those channels posting integrations that are a total slog to get through. This video should be the standard. Great job

[@RashadTyrique]

The literal definition of “brutally honest” after he started confessing everything

[@mahapralayaavatara6447]

What does one benefit by intelligence if one does not possess wisdom?

[@henrifischer1119]

Personally, I find the 164 very hard to believe. A 164% narcissist, yes, that I could believe.

[@De5O54]

The average I.Q. is 100 - typing in anything between 163 and 165 into a video title is clickbait.

[@janelleanderson6744]

I agree. He may have high average intelligence of up to 115, but that's about it. I'm thinking the 164 IQ mentioned in the title was to draw viewers.

[@LisaLisa-wy7pw]

He loves to hear himself talk.

[@josmclove4426]

Yeah he loves to hear himself saying nothing

[@emily.toombs]

That detective has him beat on that score. Interrogation technique aside, he basically doesn’t draw breath once he got going and was practically patting himself on the back there during the “you know that I know, that you know, that I know “ routine.

[@GinaHarrisToo]

Trump does too.

[@bestboy1986]

@@emily.toombs The detective annoyed the shit out of me and made me actually cringe at certain points. The guy was clearly already buckling and yet he still kept treating him like a child who just needed comforting. I wanted to vomit.

[@Leoprincess3038]

​@@bestboy1986 What?! 😂 they did an amazing job are you serious lol....they allowed him to think he was the smartest person in that room, fed his ego and his grossly inflated view of himself, played like they weren't nearly as smart as they are so he underestimated them. Bad 😂 you want to hurl because the point missed you by a mile too; they played chess while Thayne was playing checkers 😉 it got them their confession, established his motive and lack of remorse simply by taking advantage of his need to hear himself speak. Like the OP said, she's right. They didn't baby and coddle him...they played him like a fiddle and he fell for it hook, line, sinker. Work on your critical thinking 😊

[@plantqueen7790]

Lol the way the detective interrupted his biopic movie monologue at the end like “okayyyy time to go buddy.” 😂

[@exquisitebiscuit]

The detectives are awesome! Watching the body language alone of lead detective, master class!

[@KellieJK]

"Murder doesn't make you hungry." Wow. That is kind of haunting.

[@thomsonmaclean2041]

He meant it ruins ones appetite, obviously. He was very nervous and emotional so he said it in a very clumsy manner.

[@annieliebert]

He meant it as an authority on murder, now that he's a murderer. He thinks he's an expert on it now, and he thinks everyone wants to know what he thinks; and he's proud to be a murderer now.

[@mellimel9300]

It is, because he's completely insincere. Right after they asked him that, he paused. He rubbed his belly and the wheels were turning. Following his thought pattern, he thought, I AM hungry...but, If I eat right now, the mask will look like me. "Cold and heartless." He could add calculating, and "professional" actor, to the list. They knew who they were dealing with. A psychopath and a sadist, with narcissism. "Michael Myers", wore a mask. I think it was symbolic, and to elicit primal fears. It could be anyone, anywhere. It's also true. It's no joke. These "people". They never look like who they are.

[@loribarto2119]

People saying he’s not that intelligent must have never been around genius at all! I can tell you from my genius brother and a Mensa group that used to meet where I waited tables, they are very smart but they lack in a lot of areas such as common sense, social skills etc especially if they know they are genius iq. Now I don’t know if he’s smart or not but just saying genius people are not well rounded in my experience

[@CS-mo7xp]

I would say that applying to be in MENSA (which I guess is how it works?) is an immediate red flag as far as personality goes...

[@BigBoyAlbee]

Narcissism is very common in this devils, intelligence is a curse for a lot of these cowards, and it allows narcissism to take over their souls

[@BruceLee-fd7uw]

Autistic then

[@thomsonmaclean2041]

​@@CS-mo7xpmany use their MENSA membership to interact with people more on their level and to network and flash it at interviews for top positions.

[@PA-hi9wj]

How many types of IQ are there? Naturalistic, Musical, Logical-mathematical, Existential, Interpersonal, Linguistic, Bodily-kinaesthetic, Intra-personal and Spatial intelligence

[@schism6976]

If his IQ was as high as the title claims, he'd walk out or use his right to remain silent. Also, i feel like we all know one person like this 😅

[@Cornwalls.best.doorway]

Common sense and intellect aren’t the same thing - and they don’t always go hand in hand.

[@leratoselolo9551]

You could be that person to someone 😅

[@onichan924]

@@Cornwalls.best.doorwayain’t this the truth

[@deborahd7321]

People with very high IQ does not mean they are on the ball. Usually, common sense is absent or very low on everyday things. He is well read, but not good on basic everyday nous. So maybe he thought if he didn't ask for a lawyer, he would seem innocent. I maybe he didn't think of it. Don't confuse intelligence with wisdom.

[@ginabee848]

Alot of book smart people have no commonsense

[@cindysettles3743]

Great interviewing techniques

[@ginabee848]

He loves the compliments he's getting and thats why he keeps talking

[@invictusbp1prop143]

He's a narcissist. Of course he loves to hear about how great he is... Most cant help themselves but to fish for more praise, especially from people of some importance, like investigators.

[@TanyaDavis954]

Narcissist EVIL 😈

[@kellym4747]

We would do better to treat all kids with love and kindness, praise, compliments, positive comments about the good things they do. Those who are neglected and abandoned and criticized are left hungering for compliments and acceptance where they can get it.

[@Dan52484]

Proof that high IQ does not translate to common sense

[@cowbatboots282]

He's not actually high IQ. The title of the video is making fun of the dude.

[@Michael-pt8cr]

i doubt his iq is even 164, seems like clickbait, this guy isnt bright

[@JoryBarrett]

@@Michael-pt8cr google says einstein was 160 I hate this stupid clickbait titles.

[@JoryBarrett]

@@Michael-pt8cr google says einstein was 160 I hate this stupid clickbait titles.

[@9babyblu]

Pfft, with the amount of times the title says 'IQ genius level,' is disappointing. From here on out, I'm going to need to see some proof.

[@Ihaveblueyebrows]

Didn't think Brad Mondo could do something like that

[@Ocean_Monae]

😂

[@genie7987]

dumb

[@_rockseeker]

Lmao stop 💀 why is this so accurate

[@calicojakk9974]

​@@_rockseeker Because the guy looks like Brad Mondo...

[@_rockseeker]

@@calicojakk9974 🙄 yes, obviously.

[@debidriscoll8108]

Girl was smart to get away from him

[@tamararutland-mills9530]

Great interrogative skills. 👏 👏 👏 These officers should teach classes on how to interrogate suspects.

[@James_Bowie]

"I don't want my name in the paper." ... in that case Mr IQ of 164 don't murder 3 people. Duh!

[@kristinaplays2924]

Narcissists are so easily manipulated, my god.

[@BradHoover-m1i]

No

[@rhondawelliver6174]

Narcs are just children mentally but in adult bodies. Yes they do believe almost anything you tell them. They're also void of empathy, theyre grandiose, revenge seeking, compulsive liars, sadistic and mix in some beers or alcohol, they turn into literal psychopaths and they're capable of murder.

[@pitolove71]

Yep, they really are their own Worst Enemies! 😂

[@CopingwithGrattitude]

Not all of them…they can be master manipulators. He is low functioning. Despite his IQ or whatever.

[@cowbatboots282]

Yes lol. Shut up. ​@@BradHoover-m1i

[@clownrituals587]

So the genius was easily tricked into believing that a person who was not a drug dealer was a drug dealer…and killed the guy, his son and a friend of the guy….and threw away his entire life… so…not a genius

[@mobilegamersunite]

Stay strapped folks, and always be vigilant. You never know who is really who... this is scary and sad..that poor child. I dont know how anybody could kill a child like that. This guy is a monster.

[@RiVer-Parish]

Guy looks like he belongs in fraternity.

[@horrido666]

More like a sorority, now. He' serving out 3 life sentences in Maine's women's state pen.

[@angelchaffin5477]

@@horrido666 WTF

[@budgonstopCANELO]

The culture in general has been doing insane things to people for thousands of years

[@bjbrown]

Please explain

[@JrayAloha]

Fraternal Bros of the Incarceration

[@Quibes1982]

Detective work and interrogation were bang on

[@Kitten_Mittons]

I'm honestly amazed why people rave about interrogation techniques. When they pretend to relate to the criminal I roll my eyes

[@charltonheston969]

Thyane "Jeff was mowing the lawn" Det. "Outside ?" No inside cutting carpet 🤦‍♂️

[@XodyCalizander]

Notice how he repeats so many things that the detective says? That's not normal. And they see right through it. He's doing it too.Make himself seem normal, and it's not working.

[@allgrapes4352]

Diversion to think up an answer

[@9babyblu]

​@@allgrapes4352 Right? Textbook deceiving. Buying time to conjur an answer...

[@tetsuoakira8294]

He also imitates their body positions as well. When the detective leans back, HE leans back. When the detective leans forward, HE leans forward.

[@9babyblu]

@@tetsuoakira8294 Psychopathic traits. Mimicking others behavior. He thinks they look cool and confident, yet they come across nice as well. Which is exactly how he's hoping to be seen. 'A friend' to gain trust. He's diabolical. I think he got 3 life terms WOP. The fact he had to take the child's life as well... the audacity this guy thinks he has.

[@Brooklynbred3]

The murderer is the smartest person in the room, but the detectives are way more experienced in these situations. Big difference.

[@brettcatterall7761]

I agree with that. He looks like a quick learner. Not enough experience in the real world as a younger guy

[@billybunter3753]

Nope, not one ounce of common sense in him! He actually thought at one stage that he might still be used for good due to his "professionalism" 😂 They actually had him believing that! He probably thought he was going to get special assignments with the CIA! Dumb as dog shit!

[@htimsid]

I think that you greatly underestimate the intelligence of these detectives.

[@David-vn2id]

The 164 IQ was thrown in the tag line to get more clicks. IQ was never mentioned by anyone in the entire clip. Too funny that everyone commenting on his IQ were not able to see this....

[@Kristy-x1t]

This is the difference between smart AND cunning.

[@JohnDoe-zz7on]

Dude: What do you see? I see a narcissistic sociopath.

[@picometer472]

"Murder doesn't make you hungry." An extremely quotable quote.

[@toddburgess5056]

When asked by the LEO if Thayne could think of any good reason why the triple homicide occurred, Thayne nodded his head "yes" while verbally saying "no". I never noticed that before when I watched his questioning in another video.

[@deborahtyler6567]

This is a Master Class in psychopathy.

[@Wonderwhoopin]

To be so smart and not ask for a lawyer 😳

[@Ischemiaa]

IQ merely purely correlates with the ability to do well on IQ tests. Also, intelligence does not equal wisdom. A highly intelligent person who has no experience (first or second hand) with the legal system would potentially quickly learn and understand but initially not fully comprehend the best course of action. Also, don't underestimate naivete and arrogance :D

[@dizzymindy6024]

His arrogance annoys me.

[@TedBackus]

@@Ischemiaa merely or purely, not both.

[@critical1388]

So true...👏

[@piggerGg]

@@TedBackusBoth is fine. Capitalise your sentences if you’re here to condescend inaccurately, else you’re just a lower-case baby screaming at a missing comma.

[@MADDLADO1]

Just goes to show, intelligent people aren't always smart.

[@allgrapes4352]

No common sense

[@tetsuoakira8294]

I am a highly intelligent person. I did great in school, top percentile and all that, blah blah blah. Guess what? I've made some REALLY stupid financial decisions. So you're right. I think there are different types of intelligence.

[@RH-go4wi]

Many things, actions are such shite, only intellegent meatheads believe them

[@dennisbrown7079]

I seen this. I love how he thought they had nothing on him. And you literally see the moment he knew he fucked up

[@jeffdo9195]

Not “ I seen this” it is I saw this

[@dennisbrown7079]

@@jeffdo9195 my bad officer. Dnt take me to grammar prison.

[@kenw2225]

I seent this interview on other channels before too. I seent this dude got got. Did you seen this interview before? I've saw it 2 or 3 times. I've saws it from this camera angle and not seent any other camera view of this interview. Have you saws any other camera angles of this interview elsewhere?

[@theresagomez2605]

​@@kenw2225lol

[@JimmyfromPhilly1-ub4hq]

​@@jeffdo9195🤡

[@ronniesthedon5034]

I'm no expert but how could someone conclude that there is no remorse present? How could someone say that this person is ok with his actions and proudly talks about them killings? I see someone shaking and crying while telling the truth of what he has done. Obviously he feels relief, because he can finally share.

[@dj-flights7376]

I think he blames drug dealers for ruining his mother, childhood, and life.

[@SusanBrown-hb7xz]

And uses drugs himself

[@johnsillings6330]

@@SusanBrown-hb7xzCannabis isnt drugs, Einstein..

[@SusanBrown-hb7xz]

@@johnsillings6330 are you 5, you probably think alcohol isn’t a drug too. Try googling it

[@donjoe2661]

@@johnsillings6330 Alcohol is a hard drug. Cannabis a soft drug just as coffee and sigarets, Einstein ;)

[@rawnukles]

nah he just hated that guy from some reason he didn't explain and thinks it's socially acceptable to hate drug dealers. Maybe he has a nasty temper like his mother.

[@PaperclipProphets]

“Good luck to you and may God have mercy on your soul.” That detective is fantastic on so many levels!

[@JesseRChase]

They just evaporate, once they’ve gotten everything out of you.

[@Mmolonn]

If word-vomit was personified it would be this guy. Words words words but not saying anything of substance.

[@dizzymindy6024]

“Word vomit” You are so right!! He’s yakking and yakking, and yet, he says nothing.

[@BrendaBaBoom]

No substance and trying to be vague about specific questions. 🧐

[@CandlestickNinjaTV]

You just defined a politician

[@SunShinyDaysPlease]

Same as Kamala Harris. 😱

[@jonimestas9692]

Gigantic word salad. A loser. Not slightly impressed.

[@jdspublic]

No remorse, faking emotion. Psychopath.

[@chrisscross1577]

So which crime is worse. Selling drugs or killing 2 innocent people just because they were there.🤔

[@freedomoffgrid82]

4 lives needlessly wasted.

[@maksenDK]

The gasps and wierd breathing patterns while he is confessing is clearly a way to seem empathetic. sometimes he stops shaking and gasping, so it is clearly an act. He does not feel a thing. he could be explaining this stone cold facts if he wanted to.

[@CeeDoggz]

These people are out there. Millions of them. Trust no one.

[@Firthmax]

"I'm against drugs, they're a cancer. So anyway, we smoked a joint..."

[@RestNPeaceBozo]

Weed isnt a drug clown.

[@oisinquinn9469]

Yes it is. Coffee is a drug​@RestNPeaceBozo

[@FlashRayLaser]

​@@RestNPeaceBozoTylenol is a drug, clown. Arrogance doesn't help the cause. It's a drug, but it shouldn't be a narcotic. Especially not while alcohol is legal.

[@Maureen-q6w]

@@RestNPeaceBozoweed is an organic drug

[@PeachysMom]

@@RestNPeaceBozoit is a drug. Alcohol is a drug, caffeine is a drug. Anything with biological action on the nervous system is a drug. There’s no moral judgment in science.

[@suzannelindsay2247]

NARCISSIST! NARCISSIST! NARCISSIST!LOVED THE ATTENTION AND THE SOUND OF HIS OWN VOICE. NO CARE AT ALL ABOUT THE PEOPLE HE KILLED OR THE PEOPLE WHO'S LIVE WERE CHANGED BECAUSE OF HIM.

[@adelaidemarie]

You couldn’t hear or see the remorse for the child? Did you just listen to the commentator and go blind?

[@suzannelindsay2247]

@adelaidemarie He is just saying what he knows normal people want to hear.

[@colinjames2469]

Written by a narcissist. lmao

[@suzannelindsay2247]

@@colinjames2469 Maybe!🤣🤣🤣

[@kellym4747]

Yes, this was him talking all about himself and the people he killed….because that’s what the subject of the interrogation was. In that case almost anyone interviewed about a crime might be called a narcissist.

[@atsylor5549]

I don’t actually believe any of the motive he claimed to have because it sounds like pure nonsense. He hates drug dealers so much that he’ll kill one but then he’s perfectly ok with killing a man and his child that he first met! He’s a manipulative liar who has a grandiose opinion of himself and he probably killed those people for no other reason besides he wanted to see if he could.

[@missysbloglife]

Mike on That Chapter did a great story on this some months ago. I highly recommend!

[@chelsz9148]

Omg I love Mike and I don't remember this episode! I'll have to try and look for it

[@Call_Em_Yall]

Just went over there and am watching the latest video - which I'd seen the case on another channel. But in all the true crime channels I follow, I have never seen a ruder comment section. I understand having a varying opinion but...

[@CS-mo7xp]

​@@chelsz9148 hmm I thought I watched all mike's vids and don't remember this one either....must've missed it

[@michaeldebidart]

If someone is here watching this video, what’s the point of recommending they go to another channel to see the exact same footage?

[@ThatSnobbyChick]

​@@michaeldebidartI watch several true crime channels and many cover the same cases. What keeps me coming back is that every channel I watch has different commentary and different interpretations and biases. I like seeing all sides possible

[@annewhite9850]

Brilliant interrogation they went through him like warm knife in butter. The detective gives off that I’m just a simple country boy vibe in fact he’s the genius well done keeping his utter disgust hidden to get the answers the families needed RIP🌹🌹🌹

[@thomsonmaclean2041]

Not so much. Throughout this interrogation they both discuss how he knew that they knew that he knew that they knew....😊

[@KFCA194]

my hero was columbo

[@ladypamela8269]

This video was very well put together

[@tte4445]

How was he not suspicious with all the questions about his personal life lol

[@Xena4battle77]

No kidding NOT so smart ‼️