What Are Electric Plasma Jet Engines?

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Imagine a shiny modern airliner crisscrossing the globe powered exclusively by clean electricity and fresh air. That’s the grand vision of a new generation of jet thrusters making big noise in engineering labs around the world.
But is this technology the solution to runaway climate change and fossil fuel dependency - or just a load of hot air?
Join us today as we take a metaphorical test flight with the electric plasma jet engine.
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What Are Electric Plasma Jet Engines?

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@Gabriel.Ponce.De.Leon.777
@Gabriel.Ponce.De.Leon.777 3 жыл бұрын
First they excite you, then tell you it can’t be made.
@Kiyoone
@Kiyoone 3 жыл бұрын
not YET. as it was for the rockets and ISS in 1900
@beniautomotive9702
@beniautomotive9702 3 жыл бұрын
Giving it a try , will Worth it
@0623kaboom
@0623kaboom 3 жыл бұрын
ask yourself ... O- and O+ ions ... Oxygen the element that readily combines with pretty much everything else ... now it goes form moderate recombination levels to hyper-recombination think of it as going from a fractional exponent to one raised by 999999999999999999999.9999 .... yeah you go from the bottom of the recombination curve to the top and you take us from taking millennia to kill oursleves to doing it in a few years ... not something we should want to do ...
@0623kaboom
@0623kaboom 3 жыл бұрын
@@beniautomotive9702 stop and tnhink about it ... you are going to go from fossil fuels taking a thousand years to kill us to all those same gases being created so fast we will kill oursleves in a few years ... oxygen combines with most everything and has few exceptions ... now it takes a little time for it ... turn oxygen into positive and negative ions ... and it recombines so fast you go from the bottom of the curve to the top of an exponential curve of pollution .. VERY VERY BAD IDEA ...
@BigBadJohn5358
@BigBadJohn5358 3 жыл бұрын
Rather like promises by governments then, eh?, they should just come out and tell the truth, they NEVER intend to end restrictions, mankind will be extinct first.
@FallLineJP
@FallLineJP 3 жыл бұрын
On a serious note - the propulsion part of electric flight is relatively easy. As they pointed out, it’s the energy storage that’s hard.
@AnonyMous-gt8vq
@AnonyMous-gt8vq 3 жыл бұрын
Power density of electric motors is also an issue though. In flight both power density amd energy density matter massively.
@JKOOLDK
@JKOOLDK 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s about compressing that energy
@assarstromblad3280
@assarstromblad3280 3 жыл бұрын
Nuclear powered airplane? No? Just kidding, been there done that, probs not a good idea if it ever decides to stop working mid air lol
@FallLineJP
@FallLineJP 3 жыл бұрын
@@AnonyMous-gt8vq Sure, agree. Hence "relatively" above. Less weight is more efficient, and efficiency definitely matters. But the tone of the video was about how this technology was so revolutionary it would enable electric air travel, which really isn't the case. We also don't know how heavy this setup would be compared to a conventional electric motor.
@AnonyMous-gt8vq
@AnonyMous-gt8vq 3 жыл бұрын
@@FallLineJP Agreed.
@deadspeedv
@deadspeedv 3 жыл бұрын
I guess with all these electric based thrust technologies they are all limited by low energy density in chemical based batteries. A portable fusion powered generator is the real holy grail. I hope ITER is successful in creating breakthroughs in fusion
@Trompicavalas
@Trompicavalas 3 жыл бұрын
You are very agree, but I have much more hope in the evolution of batteries than in nuclear fusion. Even if nuclear fusion will one day be feasible, I highly doubt that there will ever be a nuclear fusion power plant that is light and compact enough to power an airplane.
@acmefixer1
@acmefixer1 3 жыл бұрын
Fusion is not going to happen until 2040 to 2060 if it's possible -- and that's a big IF. By that, I mean fusion where the power generated is *greater* than the total power needed for running the reactor.
@johnnyknight614
@johnnyknight614 3 жыл бұрын
Nuclear Fusion is what I see everything running on about 100 years in the future or maybe 200
@pavanbiliyar
@pavanbiliyar 3 жыл бұрын
Batteries are progressing in terms of their energy density; maybe in a few decades the density will line up with chemical systems. At that point, the energy generation can still remain on the ground while the flying machines charge on the ground. I'm thinking of an induction plate rather than cables, since ground crews will help the pilot line-up the plane on the ground anyway.
@TamilAlienAdventurers
@TamilAlienAdventurers 3 жыл бұрын
Green Hydrogen is a easy energy storage
@serpico1616
@serpico1616 3 жыл бұрын
Something else to keep in mind about planes, they get more efficient as they use fuel and get lighter. Batteries don't get lighter when depleted so the plane would have to carry around that "dead" weight throughout the entire flight.
@BigBadJohn5358
@BigBadJohn5358 3 жыл бұрын
The fan shafts in the engines spin at an incredible speed, why not put magnets around them like a generator in a power station and there you have your electricity, to heat the air flowing through they could use an immersion heater like in your water tank except rated at hundreds of times higher wattage, may be less likely to melt the engine casing than this plasma/microwave idea.
@97denis97
@97denis97 2 жыл бұрын
​@@BigBadJohn5358 Because that would slow the fan down?!!? Do you know what conservation of energy even means? Ever heard of Thermodynamics? A little FYI : Perpetual motion is not real and so is free energy...
@richardbadish6990
@richardbadish6990 Жыл бұрын
​@97denis97 You said basically what I was about to say. About perpetual motion. It's the same reason why an electric car can't generate its own power while moving down the road. In theory it seems like a great idea. But once resistance and working load come into play. It all but destroys any hope, of it being beneficial enough to even bother with implementing it into modern electric cars. Same for a windmill of sorts on a car, it's adding resistance, therefore negating anything positive, you gain. However, I'd like to see them put solar panels of some sort on a car. Maybe one day they'll have a solar paint that is capable of adding more miles to each charge. I'd love to see someone like Mark Rober, do something like that and test it. He's very good at doing those things and very good at explaining the process bit by bit. The entire way!
@maninthemiddleground2316
@maninthemiddleground2316 3 жыл бұрын
The bit about conventional fuel is 43 times more energy per unit weight is true. Just to add to this, conventional jets get lighter as they go farther. Electric jets will barely get lighter. 🙂
@danzjz3923
@danzjz3923 3 жыл бұрын
hydrogen is twice as energy dense...
@papaburger
@papaburger 3 жыл бұрын
anti-matter as fuel perhaps ?
@Down915
@Down915 3 жыл бұрын
@@danzjz3923 per kilogram it is more than jet a1, but since hydrogen is not dense at all so you'd need a much larger volume
@aerbon
@aerbon 3 жыл бұрын
@@danzjz3923 making hydrogen isn't that efficient, however for energy dense applications its probably the best way for now.
@aerbon
@aerbon 3 жыл бұрын
@@Down915 well if you are keeping the hydrogen uncompressed then it will give you buoyancy so really just get hydrogen powered zeppelins (and then make them not go boom, but everything goes boom if you try hard enough)
@stan.rarick8556
@stan.rarick8556 3 жыл бұрын
This is old news I was going to build a plasma jet (several inches across) in the 1960s and even had some parts fabricated.. The design was based on one in the November 1961 issue of Scientific American magazine pp 173-188
@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025
@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025 3 жыл бұрын
then your cat ate the instructions one day?
@josephdestaubin7426
@josephdestaubin7426 3 жыл бұрын
Leave it to the Chinese to invent something that's already been published decades ago.
@motosnape
@motosnape 3 жыл бұрын
There's a substantial difference between theoretical design and supposedly successful prototype testing.
@IAMFANTROLL
@IAMFANTROLL 12 күн бұрын
homie he gave the exact issue lol​@@theoriginalchefboyoboy6025
@20_percent
@20_percent 3 жыл бұрын
they invented Tony Starks Patented Repulsor Lift Technology.
@Singleraxis
@Singleraxis 3 жыл бұрын
If only they could invent the Arc reactor in a miniature size aswell lol.
@kennybeginner4087
@kennybeginner4087 3 жыл бұрын
@Timothy Rurak an Iron Man costume it's already real. Adam Savage from Mythbusters made one. You got to check that out.
@kennybeginner4087
@kennybeginner4087 3 жыл бұрын
@Timothy Rurak it's a real life prototype that in the future could have a lot of improvements.
@kennybeginner4087
@kennybeginner4087 3 жыл бұрын
@Timothy Rurak one day at a time. First the helium balloon, now sending rocks in cosmos. Feel free to participate and improve what Adam started. Engineering is a steady pillar.
@richard77231
@richard77231 3 жыл бұрын
But did they BUILD IT IN A CAVE.....WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS??
@mikgol81
@mikgol81 3 жыл бұрын
answer: I can't imagine jetting off on a holiday on any powered aircraft, anytime soon
@VictorGallagherCarvings
@VictorGallagherCarvings 3 жыл бұрын
This is nowhere near being an engineering problem. This is more right now in the domain of basic research.
@UR_HR
@UR_HR 3 жыл бұрын
Already built a big one in my shed last year, sorted the battery out a few years before that, $1000 for the engine, and $500 for the battery ono
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord 3 жыл бұрын
@@UR_HR post a video
@jamesbizs
@jamesbizs 3 жыл бұрын
@@UR_HR yeah. No you didn’t
@craigfisher3976
@craigfisher3976 3 жыл бұрын
Video will be worth a review in 10 years. Once enough engineers get their hands on it, plasma engines have come a very long way in the last 20 years, this is a very promising tech.
@JCAH1
@JCAH1 3 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately incorrect, as far as using this technology for jet planes. The daunting problem must also be solved of how to provide massive quantities of cheap, safe, light weight, reliable, compact, smooth electrical power to the inductively-coupled plasma engines. That is easy enough to do in a ground installation, but doing it on a jet plane is simply not possible. If one is going to install massive electrical generators in a plane, then they might as well also use those generators as the plane's engines, and skip all of the extra heavy, bulky, expensive equipment, which is what the world does now. And it can be (has been) mathematically proven that the inherent limitations of any battery technologies that could possibly be invented in the distant future, could never provide that kind of power and total energy, and still be cheap, light weight, compact, safe, and very quickly recharged.
@KerbalFacile
@KerbalFacile 3 жыл бұрын
France had been working on this type of plasma magnetodynamics way back in the 1980s, but never really made anything out of it, apparently. Japan had a boat propelled by magnetohydrodynamics in the 1990s (the yamato-1, built by Mitsubishi). But those accelerated the plasma-ified medium by running a current through it inside of intense magnetic fields directly, with no moving parts, rather than with a traditional compressor+turbine.
@happyfox711
@happyfox711 2 жыл бұрын
Utilizing the electrostatic field instead of the em field has a bigger potential in every meaning of the word...
@arkohmay
@arkohmay Жыл бұрын
Magnetohydrodynamic propulsion runs current through the conductive electrolytic like substance it is traveling through like water (not distilled) to propel itself, exploiting said "magnetic fields" and such to push the water away. Not necessarily plasma. hydro = water
@orenrocco
@orenrocco 3 жыл бұрын
Going to be brutally honest, I am actually trying this right now for a UAV. Now I am technically 3D printing using a powder based printer parts for the engine. Now the problem is that the airflow is not really spectacular it needs to have high compression which require CFD analysis. Also if you use a gas that is already extremely compressed you get a substantial amount of thrust after ionization also this require multiple fin channels where airflow is occurring inside the engine in order to increase thrust as well. Moreover, the ideal solution is to use two technologies which the other I am using has already been demonstrated by multiple institutions and is clean. In regards the batteries that is an engineering problem but not as big of a problem as you might think. The risk of battery usage is that high strain such as high current draw can cause dendrites to form between the electrolyte and electrode inside the battery leading to shorter life and possible failures and this is a costly problem. The only thing that is stopping this from really progressing is actual funding or company interest and ontop of that manufacturing which is another animal.
@robbin4380
@robbin4380 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, could you please explain more??
@orenrocco
@orenrocco 3 жыл бұрын
@@robbin4380 simply no its still in the development prototype stage and its not something you can do at home. You need specialized equipment as well RF shielding in the engine body as this had ionization. Will post more when I have an update or possibly a video expect a couple months I have the body of the UAV and right now I'm working on motor control built my own hardware driver for the AC motors relating for the intake and working on power management rn. I am working aswell on the automonous segment and other parts of the operating system rn. Its hefty work tbh and its not easy one part such as the compressor could take weeks or months for calibration then integration with the components for RF which I am printing and this part is where most of the power gets consumed, however depending on how compressed the gas is the power will vary. Higher compression means less power consumption and more thrust.
@jameriquay
@jameriquay 2 жыл бұрын
Mate keep going with it, I'm also building what I hope to be a revolutionary electric engine while completing my physics degree, but to fill a different purpose, I know the struggles lol
@sadafule9008
@sadafule9008 3 жыл бұрын
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@mvnorsel6354
@mvnorsel6354 3 жыл бұрын
Such a cool sounding name for an engine, and I was impressed with ' hemi '.
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@simplymax2125 3 жыл бұрын
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@jakebrodskype
@jakebrodskype 3 жыл бұрын
Most engines start off as nearly useless lab curiosities. Most never make it out of the lab. But every once in a while, someone who is both an engineer and an entrepreneur sees an opportunity to build something that fills a need. And that's where the money and creativity come from to develop these engines to practicality. Will that happen here? Who knows?
@jameriquay
@jameriquay 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure about the entrepreneur bit, as any engineer or physicist will tell you: capitalism kills innovation. As it only allows finished products to be marketable, leaving no money for the engineering process. Not to mention the politics involved in big companies trying to kill smaller companies with better products like Hoover tried to do with Dyson.
@gregoryvernon6174
@gregoryvernon6174 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. I'm a RF engineer and loved the prototype.
@JW-be8wf
@JW-be8wf 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with the MIT professor. Most of the practical applications of this aren't possible without major breakthroughs in energy technology and material sciences and likely new physics that we haven't discovered yet. Not to mention the scale required. The tallest structure man has built is the 1000 foot building in Dubai. You simply can't pile up another 1000 feet on it given our current knowledge and cost of materials. This is not how engineering works.
@freddybell8328
@freddybell8328 2 жыл бұрын
The Burj Khalifa is way taller than 1000 feet lol
@Futurelicious
@Futurelicious 3 жыл бұрын
The research and development of this video is inspiring keep up the great vids!
@rangeslider
@rangeslider 3 жыл бұрын
Huge respect to Tech Vision! Extensive coverage of a broad range of well-picked, informative tech topics, made enjoyable to watch & learn from. Your consistency is commendable. You inspire me. Keep going. Cheers :)
@DJNoMask
@DJNoMask 3 жыл бұрын
Wipe your nose. It’s brown
@studiosbonsoir
@studiosbonsoir 3 жыл бұрын
Without a single cited source, cool !
@MoneyMindsetM
@MoneyMindsetM 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like we're going to the Sci fi Age!
@acarnivorouscat4549
@acarnivorouscat4549 3 жыл бұрын
It's already here!
@Cylius.
@Cylius. 3 жыл бұрын
I mean... we kinda are... things are no longer so simple to answer with it "cant be done" anymore. It'll take time but In alot of cases science fiction is probably going to turn into just science.
@evanbarnes9984
@evanbarnes9984 3 жыл бұрын
Every single day! I feel you
@usualdosage7287
@usualdosage7287 3 жыл бұрын
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@leerman22
@leerman22 3 жыл бұрын
Because an electric prop or ducted fan is just way too efficient.
@FlamableDeath
@FlamableDeath 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that this technology has no immediate practical use for our global society, but the research has great value for future projects. Humans will have to switch from fossil fuels sooner rather than later anyway. If future technological innovations made this form of flight more efficient and practical, then we should continue to explore possible uses for this technology in the coming decades.
@H33t3Speaks
@H33t3Speaks 3 жыл бұрын
What is Ozone generation for $1000, Doctor Science.
@originalbigtee
@originalbigtee 3 жыл бұрын
For anyone interested, the small turbine footage is from warped perception. An awesome channel!
@ibrahimswiss8714
@ibrahimswiss8714 3 жыл бұрын
We don't know exactly what they'll come up with. Let's not underestimate their technology, hopefully it's for peaceful purposes.
@nicolasnunez8388
@nicolasnunez8388 3 жыл бұрын
Who?
@evanbarnes9984
@evanbarnes9984 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasnunez8388 I assume he's talking about Chinese scientists. But obviously we shouldn't underestimate them, China is a technological superpower.
@nicolasnunez8388
@nicolasnunez8388 3 жыл бұрын
@@evanbarnes9984 of course of course. China is slowly but surely becoming the most powerful nation on earth, and I think most countries are actually worried about this
@tacocat300O00
@tacocat300O00 3 жыл бұрын
We talking about humans in general, and i doubt most powerful technology they make now will be for peace
@klytouch5285
@klytouch5285 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.... A new fighter jet engine.....☮️🖖
@recoswell
@recoswell 3 жыл бұрын
if you can imagine it now - one day it will be a reality - me
@eddydogleg
@eddydogleg 3 жыл бұрын
The laws of physic are strictly enforced. I can imagine lighting a safety match in the shower... but it's never going to happen.
@michael4576
@michael4576 3 жыл бұрын
@@eddydogleg 💩🥴
@assarstromblad3280
@assarstromblad3280 3 жыл бұрын
Well, probability says that there is a slim chance that no single water droplet hits the match during the entire time you are in the shower. Not very big of a chance, but it exists.
@Player-ix7rx
@Player-ix7rx 3 жыл бұрын
​@@eddydogleg in fact you can, there are matches that can be lighted under the water
@eddydogleg
@eddydogleg 3 жыл бұрын
@@Player-ix7rx Yes there are matches that can be lit under water; that is why I specified a safety match.
@kushalhn515
@kushalhn515 3 жыл бұрын
I had thought abt this when I was in 5th grade.. I recently graduated . 😂
@kushalhn515
@kushalhn515 3 жыл бұрын
@@rushikesh2320 learning is different and ideas being born in ur mind is different. I was just seeing my book on inventions that I had written. Aero india 2007 inspired me to invent and solve existing problems in our world.
@kushalhn515
@kushalhn515 3 жыл бұрын
@@rushikesh2320 all fancy inventions bro. Some defy even laws of physics 😂. Not just in aerospace but in robotics, AI, automobiles, trains, clean energy ( nuclear fusion and all) . I'm a Mechanical engineer btw! Ps; I was lazy too 😂. So I used to ask my mom to write for me when I used to get bored writing. Only if smart phone existed back then.. speech-text is so good 😂.
@kushalhn515
@kushalhn515 3 жыл бұрын
@@rushikesh2320 yeah.. since I didn't know laws of physics properly, mind was free to think, without any restrictions 😁.
@hugh_jasso
@hugh_jasso 3 жыл бұрын
Right? I'm pretty sure i invented hybrid technology when i was 11 but society told me it wouldn't work. Fast forward a decade....
@retna1x363
@retna1x363 3 жыл бұрын
@@hugh_jasso well its easy to make it up in your head rather then building it...
@techtube360world
@techtube360world 3 жыл бұрын
Why not to use propeller instead of lossy clunky plasma drive to get the plane off the ground and make things more complicated. As already prop power planes have been a reality..what do you guys think about it
@ndaagrawal6624
@ndaagrawal6624 3 жыл бұрын
You Never Know ! Yes, it may be Possible !
@SupaKoopaTroopa64
@SupaKoopaTroopa64 3 жыл бұрын
We already have a technology that can convert electricity to thrust highly efficiently: the propeller. There are already multiple models of electric planes that are powered by electric motors attached to propellers. Propellers are simple, light weight, reliable, and the most efficient known method of converting torque to thrust. The only drawback is that you need batteries to power the plane (which can be quite heavy), but that applies to plasma jets as well.
@prich0382
@prich0382 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobLaMacchia And when something goes wrong, you have a highly explosive plane!
@keithhoughton4308
@keithhoughton4308 2 жыл бұрын
@@prich0382 and that doesn't apply to an aluminium tube full of kerosene?
@prich0382
@prich0382 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithhoughton4308 A tank full of liquid fuel won't explode unless there is enough oxygen, it'll just burn slowly otherwise
@carsongbaker
@carsongbaker 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent balanced video! Not just hype but well thought out and researched
@0623kaboom
@0623kaboom 3 жыл бұрын
missed ... the emissions of ionized oxygen now recombine with everything and what do we have ... super destruction of our atmosphere and environment because the oxygen now is working on the high end of the exponential scale to kill us instead of the bottom end of that scale ....O+ and O- ions will combine with so many different things in the atmosphere we will return ourselves to a time before the great oxidization extinction of earths long dead past ... essentialy we go from killing our planet in millennia to doing it in a few years ...
@ivoryas1696
@ivoryas1696 2 жыл бұрын
Carson Baker Yeah, this is _way_ less simple pop-sci than I expected.
@ivoryas1696
@ivoryas1696 2 жыл бұрын
@@0623kaboom That... doesn't make sense. Are you saying that planes are going to ionize the entire atmosphere?
@Rationalific
@Rationalific 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honesty instead of only hype. I hope we can have electric jets somehow, but I'm also realistic.
@patmancrowley8509
@patmancrowley8509 3 жыл бұрын
This video is a long way to go to say "no, it cannot power an airplane."
@stupidhead9117
@stupidhead9117 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! A video that isn’t slightly longer than ten minutes. Kudos and thumbs up.
@gamerpro24hour1pro4
@gamerpro24hour1pro4 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this sounds so cool! It's a way off before we get this technology, but I think the concepts and testing are a great sign for the future!
@97denis97
@97denis97 2 жыл бұрын
Nah the energy density of chemical batteries is so poor that youll never see electric engines on an aircraft. Battery development is at an physical limit right now so they start to play around with the interior design, to get the last bit of density out, but its finished. Youll never get the same amount as hydrocarbon fuel from a battery
@arkohmay
@arkohmay Жыл бұрын
@@97denis97 Honestly there are plenty of battery technology "improvements" and "discoveries" today. A large variety of these "new" battery technologies could still propose drones with this technology rather than commercial planes.
@Dragon-Slay3r
@Dragon-Slay3r Жыл бұрын
Thanks commenter
@peterbreis5407
@peterbreis5407 3 жыл бұрын
Because I have exactly zero expertise, but I am on the Internet, this will solve the COVID crisis and will make it possible to deliver meals across continents, revolutionising the way we live.
@10000words1
@10000words1 3 жыл бұрын
Is any of this actually more practical than "just" powering a jet with renewable hydrogen? Not saying hydrogen is easy, but this plasma jet gismo and the necessary energy storage seems even more far-fetched.
@lloydevans2900
@lloydevans2900 3 жыл бұрын
Of all the problems with this idea, the temperature of the plasma jet is NOT one of them. The combustion zone inside any turbine engine (whether turbojet, turbofan or turboprop) is already far hotter than 1000 degrees C - the flame inside the combustors easily gets to 1500 degrees C, perhaps more. This is of course more than enough to melt the turbine blades, but they don't melt, because they are not exposed to this temperature directly: Only a small proportion of the air drawn into the engine by the compressor is used to burn the fuel, with the rest being used to dilute the combustion gases down to a temperature which doesn't melt the turbines. Some air even goes directly from the compressor to the turbine blade roots, where it is forced through tiny holes down the middle of the blades, cooling them from within. The same techniques could be used in a hypothetical engine using electrically generated plasma.
@slifox2752
@slifox2752 3 жыл бұрын
It could be possible if you compress the air similarly on the same scale as a jet engine and convert to plasma... The only way to heat that quickly is a fusion reactor and a heat exchange system... The closest thing to that was the thorium aircraft reactor experiment and so far it was cancelled because ICBM rockets was cheaper and safer... The air force went a different way...
@iyziejane
@iyziejane 2 жыл бұрын
The solution to the battery problem could be hydrogen fuel cells. That brings up the point that rocket assists can also be environmentally friendly.
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@Easedaray 3 жыл бұрын
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@KraussEMUS1
@KraussEMUS1 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think the plasma jet engine will be lifting its power supply anytime soon. Most of the video footage of plasma engines are actually footages of ordinary jet engines. On my channel there are about 40 videos of a series of ion thrusters that are patented for lifting their power supplies against Earth's gravity. They really work as described and have lots of potential. They will not be replacing jet engines though anytime in the near future. They are valuable in other ways.
@efexzium
@efexzium 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a more detailed and graphical explanation of how the plasma engines work.
@arkohmay
@arkohmay Жыл бұрын
Basically something called a compressed tapered waveguide is a fancy metal container shaped in such a way that when microwaves from a magnetron are shot into the cube like cavity, one end of the cavity sends them at an angle to compress them into another rectangular prism area of the apparatus (compression region) where a quartz tube or glass tube has air running through it (perpendicular to compression region). Simple spark it and you have the plasma torch.
@efexzium
@efexzium Жыл бұрын
@@arkohmay the basis for a light saber in 500 years.
@arkohmay
@arkohmay Жыл бұрын
@@efexzium oh nah lightsabers are a different type of shame lmaoo
@efexzium
@efexzium Жыл бұрын
@@arkohmay could this propel a vehicle?
@arkohmay
@arkohmay Жыл бұрын
@@efexzium hard to say since it’s presently known as both a great start for clean future propulsion and substitution for if not all possible conventional jet engines, but also many others claim it’s a joke or literally “a load of hot air.” So it’s definitely still in its prototype, under development, experimental era right now, but concept wise based on what we know now, yes. But it’s closer to drones than it is for commercial airplanes and flight.
@Trompicavalas
@Trompicavalas 3 жыл бұрын
Plasma arcs have been used for the incineration of hazardous solid waste for many years. At the exit of the incineration chamber, a turbine is sometimes placed to recover a portion of the energy consumed in generating the plasma. This is the same but with no waste to incinerate . The limitation of this concept is not the development of the engine itself but the energy density of batteries. State of the art batteries have a energy density about 500 Wh / kg while Jet-fuel (or diesel fuel) has a energy density about 11.000 Wh / kg In a car that difference in energy density although important can be admited firstly because the weigh in a car is not as critical as it is in a plane and in second place because electric cars avoid the thermodinamic cyle while plasma jet engines doesn't
@user-xb6fl9ri6g
@user-xb6fl9ri6g 3 жыл бұрын
I had this idea years ago lol - airflow aside (it could be placed inside a high bypass engine to generate the needed pressure) the problem of course is energy storage density, hydrogen would be best, but then... Why not just burn the hydrogen directly rather than converting it to electricity to power a microwave to burn the air to get your heat/expansion? Ahh, because of the NoX emissions. There's no free lunch, but it will be exciting to see how this all develops.
@anotheruser676
@anotheruser676 3 жыл бұрын
'We've invented a jet engine that doesn't burn Kerosene to produce thrust, just heat air to plasma with electricity!' 'Where do you get the electricity?' 'Kerosene powered generators!'
@VamirZecyrath
@VamirZecyrath 3 жыл бұрын
The only thought I had was that if you're able to miniaturize the nuclear reactor, would it not be more efficient to utilize some other form of propulsion like directly heating something like hydrogen? Regardless, loved the concept, and looking forward to seeing what comes of it in the future!
@absbi0000
@absbi0000 2 жыл бұрын
Hydrogen was fuel of choice for the first demonstration of the jet engine. However it was deemed unsuitable at the time for flight by the Germans (Ohain), and instead another fuel was used for airborne flight. Plasma jet technology is definitely the future. Almost every industry is waiting on a battery breakthrough, aviation not an exception.
@97denis97
@97denis97 2 жыл бұрын
@@absbi0000 Wich wont happen...
@MrQuantumInc
@MrQuantumInc 2 жыл бұрын
Nuclear thermal rockets and jet engines were built and tested on the ground in the USA. A nuclear reactor heating hydrogen could provide double the ISP of most conventional rockets. An airplane heating the air with nukes could stay up indefinitely. As they mentioned in the video they couldn't shield the crew and if such an airplane ever crashed it would be a disaster. For better or worse the idea was simply abandoned.
@Nerukenshi1233
@Nerukenshi1233 2 жыл бұрын
@@97denis97 that's an astoundingly arrogant and stupid statement.
@fermitupoupon1754
@fermitupoupon1754 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, there is no mention of exhaust products. If this plasma engine leaves a bunch of NOx and O3 in it's wake, then how green is it really?
@jesseboatright8593
@jesseboatright8593 3 жыл бұрын
Very P L A N E L I K E
@agnichatian
@agnichatian 2 жыл бұрын
Even if using imaginary super batteries and super cables carrying the power to the engines, you'd be using fossile fuel-powered grid electricity to charge the batteries. And we are not even close to changing that fact.
@cyberbetica
@cyberbetica 3 жыл бұрын
Fusion reactors, like fission reactors, aren't going to happen on planes either. Require the same amount of shielding since they are quite radioactive.
@Nice_Person7379
@Nice_Person7379 2 жыл бұрын
But fusion reactors don’t release radioactive waste do they?
@torinor6703
@torinor6703 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nice_Person7379 Im pretty sure that they release single neutrons as a waste as well as Helium, meaning that a lot of shielding is needed to contain these high velocity neutrons.
@notsureyou
@notsureyou 3 жыл бұрын
Hans von Ohain: In 1947, Ohain was brought to the United States by Operation Paperclip and went to work for the United States Air Force at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. In 1956 he was made the Director of the Air Force Aeronautical Research Laboratory and by 1975 he was the Chief Scientist of the Aero Propulsion Laboratory there. During his work at Wright-Patterson, Ohain continued his own personal work on various topics. In the early 1960s he did a fair amount of work on the design of gas core reactor rockets which would retain the nuclear fuel while allowing the working mass to be used as exhaust. The engineering needed for this role was also used for a variety of other "down to earth" purposes, including centrifuges and pumps. Ohain would later use the basic mass-flow techniques of these designs to create a fascinating jet engine with no moving parts, in which the airflow through the engine created a stable vortex that acted as the compressor and turbine.
@Henry-dt9ht
@Henry-dt9ht 3 жыл бұрын
The plasma exhaust from his engines will mean a new and more durable form of runway will have to be built. The asphalt and concrete and fall apart immediately. Another problem just maybe this new engines replacement for air travel in general. The thrust from these engines may have another problem with the superheating of the atmosphere with the exhaust from these aircraft. I do really hope that we make this technology viable.
@vrajeshK.I.E.E
@vrajeshK.I.E.E Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the repulsors used by ironman. Where he turns excess electrons into muons and generate ion plasma. Which is a self-sustainable way to generate thrust even in space.
@jamesbass9797
@jamesbass9797 3 жыл бұрын
I think the research should continue but currently this sounds like more pie in the sky.
@justinfowler2857
@justinfowler2857 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be the first time a big announcement came from China only to be withdrawn due to fraud.
@markmapanao4689
@markmapanao4689 3 жыл бұрын
Why nto biofuel airlplanes
@paultinwell5557
@paultinwell5557 3 жыл бұрын
@@markmapanao4689 look harder...
@kingmasterlord
@kingmasterlord 3 жыл бұрын
@Andrew Onymousmech suit jump jets
@luistoral1192
@luistoral1192 Жыл бұрын
Nuclear plasm with combination of petroleum plasma is unique!!
@maverickdallas1004
@maverickdallas1004 3 жыл бұрын
Petroleum is still the heavy-lifting champion, and will be for a long time.
@reho7387
@reho7387 3 жыл бұрын
This is how most great inventions get started. Start small, test, and re-test and hope for success.
@ericbourque6389
@ericbourque6389 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like spinning a propeller with that juice would be more efficient lol
@inspirasiimaginasi
@inspirasiimaginasi 2 жыл бұрын
Compression before ignition is the key to this tech. How to do that with 'electric-powered turbines'?
@ChickentNug
@ChickentNug 2 жыл бұрын
Would energy of that level put off enough UV to damage your eyes? Arc welding's more than enough to, and I'd imagine this is even more energy, so I'm just curious.
@jameriquay
@jameriquay 2 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely, although plasma in of itself doesn't necessarily; some lower temperature electrical arcs are fine to glance at for short periods.
@tryingtoreachyouaboutyourc6161
@tryingtoreachyouaboutyourc6161 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know about you and your rocket science but I like seeing big jet go vroom vroom.
@gamersocke2372
@gamersocke2372 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video :)
@markhartford9843
@markhartford9843 Жыл бұрын
Low tech answer to a high tech conundrum: Ain't gonna happen.
@genemartin6962
@genemartin6962 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that this concept came out of a Lab In good old WOOOOO HANNNN China tells me ALL I need to know
@jjboswell5043
@jjboswell5043 3 жыл бұрын
No, no it doesn't.
@alexisrdevitre
@alexisrdevitre 3 жыл бұрын
And then they said.... we’re waiting for fusion to make it work XD
@tylerdurden4006
@tylerdurden4006 3 жыл бұрын
Tah dah 🎉
@rampentpanda
@rampentpanda 3 жыл бұрын
heating air with electricity to spin a turbine seems way less efficient than just spinning a fan or propeller with a motor... gotta be a fair amount of energy escaping when you're blowing 1000 degree air out the back.
@scotth9397
@scotth9397 3 жыл бұрын
Heat from the jet fuel in conventional turbojet engines is combusted straight into flames to help furth condenses the air that flows infront of the engine compartment & through the turbine fan with many blades & creates an air condensing thrust vortex. The turbine fan designed to creat airflow in any jet engine is turned on with electricity & jetfuel fuel is combusted to provide the heat.
@rampentpanda
@rampentpanda 3 жыл бұрын
@@scotth9397 while many jet engines do use electric starters, the turbine is what produces the torque to drive the compressors at the front... i think we're in agreement but i cant say i really understand the point you're trying to make....
@rehobothjohn3224
@rehobothjohn3224 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video. Please can you make a video on maglev trains and how they work
@dranzergigs8333
@dranzergigs8333 3 жыл бұрын
Well if batteries are the problem then once batteries get decent, we can just attach a propeller to a DC motor to make an electric plane.also add some solar panels on the wings to increase range.
@jonnda
@jonnda 3 жыл бұрын
If one could use a nuclear reactor on the plane, fusion or fission, turning the nuclear heat into electricity and then back into heat in the form of plasma would be a waste of energy and weight.
@sid1234213
@sid1234213 3 жыл бұрын
You can directly use the heat from the fission by directly conducting it.
@jonnda
@jonnda 3 жыл бұрын
@@sid1234213 The experimental functional nuclear jet engines made by the USA had two circuits, but yeah, they used the heat from fission to heat the air.
@DavidA-411
@DavidA-411 3 жыл бұрын
Dang - another great idea foiled by facts.
@funny-video-YouTube-channel
@funny-video-YouTube-channel 3 жыл бұрын
It will happen. Electricity slowly wins over other forms of energy.
@0623kaboom
@0623kaboom 3 жыл бұрын
think about about ... turn oxygen into plasma ... side effect .. you now have oxygen (an element that combines with pretty much EVERYTHING else) in a state that will allow it to combine so fast with everything in the air that fossil fuel emissions over a thousand years would be less than the plasma emissions over a few years ... you thought global warming was a problem .. what about trying to live in an acid sky or sulfur dioxide air ... we would be undoing many billions of years of oxygen production in extremely short order ... look up our history and one of the first mass extinctions on this planet called the great oxidization event ... where a bunch of lil microbes started using sunlight to make energy to live and the waste gas was oxygen that reacted with the volatiles of the time and killed off 96% of all life at that time ... Nope this is NOT a good idea for an engine or even a long term sustainable atmospheric propulsion
@TheTechiemoses
@TheTechiemoses 3 жыл бұрын
@@0623kaboom NASA been doing it for years. Just another hype video for CCP propaganda and tech theft.
@KbB-kz9qp
@KbB-kz9qp 3 жыл бұрын
Oh really, how?
@jackwhite108
@jackwhite108 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheTechiemoses those are ion drives, this concept is very different
@jakobfromthefence
@jakobfromthefence 3 жыл бұрын
Tang jet. Now that’s a good sign of a new era. 👍
@acmefixer1
@acmefixer1 3 жыл бұрын
It seems to me it makes more sense to make synfuel out of green hydrogen and use that instead.
@thomcrowley1043
@thomcrowley1043 3 жыл бұрын
If you got rid of the backround noise/music and the narrator slowed down a bit ;perhaps your point could be made
@AnotherPointOfView944
@AnotherPointOfView944 3 жыл бұрын
Really a non-starter, even though I wish it could happen.
@damonsisk4270
@damonsisk4270 3 жыл бұрын
So true. The amount of energy the plane needs does not change. The only thing that could hold the amount of energy needed is chemical or nuclear energy... So, welcome back kerosene!
@gordonlawrence1448
@gordonlawrence1448 3 жыл бұрын
@@damonsisk4270 Wrong. Solid state lithium will make medium haul flights entirely practical. IE the energy density shown by Prof Goodenough was over 1MWH per tonne. He has near doubled that. But let's take 1MWH for a 777 sized aircraft. 94MWh for the one which has 94 tonnes of fuel. More for the larger one. How much would the engines need? About 40MW while cruising near double when climbing/taking off and 10% when landing. So a range of 1600KM+ with enough to redirect. That's at MGW by the way. Lessening the load could extend that by 800+km in a passenger only configuration. If Goodenough gets his 2MWH per tonne cells working reliably then you can double the range to 5000km.
@damonsisk4270
@damonsisk4270 3 жыл бұрын
@@gordonlawrence1448 I hope so. It would be amazing to improve the energy density of batteries that far! Unfortunately, theory and experience often do not merge. I will not hold my breath in the meantime.
@Mikhael03
@Mikhael03 3 жыл бұрын
Entire video felt like those Facebook ads that suggest a child has made a life changing device, when really they haven't.
@paultinwell5557
@paultinwell5557 3 жыл бұрын
@@gordonlawrence1448 ermmm... but kerosene specific energy density is 12.8kWh/kg if you consider the higher heating value, so your 94tonnes will contain 1.2TWh. 12.8MWh/tonne actual is a very long way from an as yet unproven 2MWh/tonne. Am I missing something in your analysis?
@techkid3874
@techkid3874 3 жыл бұрын
Anybody notice the map at 1:20 doesn't have a UK (It might do but there is definitely no English channel to separate it)
@santhoshsaravanan9043
@santhoshsaravanan9043 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@techkid3874
@techkid3874 3 жыл бұрын
@@santhoshsaravanan9043 hello random person
@ExTofia
@ExTofia 3 жыл бұрын
What I thik is that the jet technology is just evolution..when it made first time steel today its just upgrade not any more now what aviation really need is that revolution not evolution.. In short whole new kind of engine... Again what i think... If you want some unique inspiration and just take a look to Museum of alien video.. 🙂
@fallingshells6856
@fallingshells6856 2 жыл бұрын
A problem you've missed, plasma can result in the creations of Ozone and Nirogen Oxides. This will directly contribute to acidifying water sources, degradation of air quality, and to an increase in outdoor bacterial and viral spread, by virtue of reducing UV reception from the sun. This may also lead to vitamin D deficiency in under developed countries. It would be easier and better to utilize swaths of open ocean to grow algae for biofuels that reabsorb their own emissions.
@EternitP8
@EternitP8 3 жыл бұрын
Wu-tang clan
@mauricevester2748
@mauricevester2748 3 жыл бұрын
Forever
@jeremybatterson211
@jeremybatterson211 3 жыл бұрын
It is possible to BEAM energy to such aircraft via a string of ground stations. Otherwise, we will probably have to wait until fusion reactors are available, at which point all aircraft will use this method. Many studies have investigated the idea of beaming energy to aircraft or even rockets travelling to orbit.
@wesleyhale4472
@wesleyhale4472 3 жыл бұрын
Short answer, no.
@TgamerBio5529
@TgamerBio5529 3 жыл бұрын
Until someone creates a light compact power source that doesn’t cause harm to the atmosphere or user like nuclear fusion
@TheInsaneupsdriver
@TheInsaneupsdriver 3 жыл бұрын
this is inevitable tech, we may not see it in our life times but it will happen. they've been working on this since the 50s.
@misterbig9025
@misterbig9025 3 жыл бұрын
Is there something better than the jet engine? I'm sure scientists in the 1930s were more innovative.
@briandonovan9091
@briandonovan9091 3 жыл бұрын
750 KW is produced by the models S battery pay. One Tesla car. You compared it to the power walls, instead of the Tesla car drive power.
@nbn4698
@nbn4698 3 жыл бұрын
How can i become a futurologist?
@passdasalt
@passdasalt 3 жыл бұрын
Simply apply for the job today and hand in your resume from the year 2035. If you can presently demonstrate a history of forward time management you can hire yourself, as you are the CEO of the company you started 10 years from now.
@cardboardboxification
@cardboardboxification 3 жыл бұрын
the plane will need to be full of harbor freight generators to run that plasma engine
@robhobsweden
@robhobsweden 3 жыл бұрын
I think normal elecric engines driving fans are more likely to be useful and efficient.
@JJs_playground
@JJs_playground 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably going to take a 100 years to come to fruition.
@akkalavaralaxmithota8586
@akkalavaralaxmithota8586 3 жыл бұрын
I love your voice
@biffaozzie2373
@biffaozzie2373 3 жыл бұрын
Hate to be picky, but the engines being developed for space are not “plasma thrust” engines, they are ion jet thrusters. The fuel is ionised (by high electrostatic field) and the resulting ions accelerated with a high electric potential. You have to reinfect the electrons into the jet to make it electrically neutral, but it acceleration of the ions that does the job (not heating plasma with microwaves).
@jjtc6881
@jjtc6881 3 жыл бұрын
wuhan the city that keep on giving
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@geraltjames398 3 жыл бұрын
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@mareksicinski3726
@mareksicinski3726 2 жыл бұрын
'jetting on holiday' is part of where the problem starts. for the most part
@waitwott
@waitwott 3 жыл бұрын
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@tjpprojects7192
@tjpprojects7192 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but why the hate for fossil fuels? They are an important stepping stone for future technologies.
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@danielmartinez-qs4ov 3 жыл бұрын
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@danielmartinez-qs4ov 3 жыл бұрын
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@mathewlopez4491 3 жыл бұрын
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@sophiabaker3146
@sophiabaker3146 3 жыл бұрын
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@isabellahall4117 3 жыл бұрын
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@danielmartinez-qs4ov
@danielmartinez-qs4ov 3 жыл бұрын
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@richardtodt8660
@richardtodt8660 3 жыл бұрын
There is a guy in Australia who also knows plasma, his IQ is 196 and he is a very good friend of mine
@leosypher9993
@leosypher9993 2 жыл бұрын
I had this same exact concept in high school back in 2014, I still have the drawing
@System32F
@System32F 2 жыл бұрын
6:10 I can Imagine, We technically already do since jet engines are plasma powered, Fire is plasma Haha
@JustJezBeingJez
@JustJezBeingJez 2 жыл бұрын
It gives me so much hope for the future to even see these things being discussed.
@mattthomson3134
@mattthomson3134 Жыл бұрын
How does this give you hope? Why were you not hopeful for a good future prior to watching this?
@eder0009
@eder0009 2 жыл бұрын
I think the bigger problems isn't what type of engine we will use to increase the speed we explore the universe, it's the source of the energy. Advances in what we use for fuel and how we store the fuel/energy will allow greater advances in technology. Solid state batteries seem like a great advance if we can scale them to commercial size. If we can find ways to create and store hydrogen from water at a much lower cost or find a energy system to create gravity field to propel spacecraft. I do hope we do see an increased use of pulse engines though since they are much more efficient than conventional gas combustion engines. I would love to see pulse engine cars!
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