What are Gravity's plans for the FUTURE of Ragnarok Online?

[@andiotrebac6583]

They need to encourage party play again. I miss the social aspect of the game - now everyone is playing solo

[@gamecitizen]

The social part is what I miss the most as well, but, to be honest, I have also been playing mostly solo...

[@matias9158]

it felt like an actual social network, i know a lot of people that met in game and married

[@eberhardmezurich2026]

:( I agree

[@perseverancification]

Agree

[@Drethmaster]

Agree, I still am connected with those people.

[@86Corvus]

Gravity is grossly incompetent. Its the story of their company. They struck gold and instead of doing everything to make it bigger and better they started to look for ways to exploit the playerbase.

[@gamecitizen]

The foundation of the game is good. The people who made it, the very beginning, they did an excellent job. But, as time went by, things got worse and worse. The 4th classes are an insult to the spirit of the game!

[@martinharyanto4465]

Well as much as them being incompetent, honestly they still exist and improve their game. The fact and the survival of the company shown, that whatever they are doing is "correct". As the time wen by, I would say the purpose/spirit was shifting, they are fighting against another MMORPG in the era, Ran (newest free mmorpg at the time), RF, Seal, Rose, Domo, etc. They show the world that, they survive. I agree with GameCitizien that the 4th classes are an insult to the spirit of the game. Honestly, they should've made Ragnarok 2 as a Ragnarok game but with better graphic and broader system. I understand that they don't want to kill Ragnarok like RAN did (we wont see it anywhere anymore). But Ragnarok 2 is also an insult as the game itself. Even though I hated Gravity for every little thing, but honestly they are the best out there for MMORPG. They are like Apple, Android, Toyota, etc, as a leading mmorpg company.

[@gamecitizen]

@@martinharyanto4465 Well, I don't think Gravity is currently the best when it comes to managing MMORPGs. It is true that we live in dire times for the genre, and it is hard to find better managers. But I think more modern game have better managing. On top of my head, I can think of Albion being managed in a way that I consider as far better. I think the problem with Gravity is not so much about what they did, but their lack of disposition to make proper changes. I think they are way too concerned with how well the company goes in each quarter of year, focusing on the stock market. Also, it is super clear they focus on mobile games. I don't think the mobile games will keep existing for too long. I think the basis of Ragnarok are super solid. You mentioned RF. RF had severe problems regarding dupping items and other hacking issues. The game had thousands of different weapons for early lvls (30-), and then just a couple of the same designs every 5 lvls after that. I loved RF, and RF also has a special place in my heart, but RF didn't have very solid foundations. My own take is that Ragnarok is alive *in spite of* modern Gravity management.

[@JemRau]

Even if Gravity did nothing wrong Ragnarok will still fall into obscurity. By the time DOTA’s popularity skyrocketed in 2005, it was the end of pay to play mmorpg

[@gamecitizen]

@@JemRau The end of the golden age, certainly. But fall into obscurity is too much. There are still many official and private servers all over the globe.

[@CloudminS2]

Wow, nice to see a fresh channel about the timeless game Ragnarok Online, thank you for keeping us update about the brand!

[@gamecitizen]

Thanks! :)

[@somerandomguyfromtheintern480]

I'm amazed this game still exists. I was a GM for this game at their office in Marina Del Rey back in 2002, and it was a tiny company, small player base, and never seemed to go anywhere. After the sourcecode got out, and there was lots of other free servers around, I thought this game would be long dead, yet here it still stands. Weird. The only MMORPG I've been playing long term is the Guildwars franchise. The only thing I think iRO had going for it was that cutesy anime look, but, I never was very interested it in other than that. I even work for Playstation now a days, access to all the games, and very few interest me any more.

[@gamecitizen]

Nice! You are at the heart of the very beginning of the game! Ragnarok was part of the Golden Age of MMORPGs. I don't think games got less intereting. AAA games, yes - most of them as less interesting nowadays, with a few exceptions. But, looking at indie games, there are many original games.

[@KnightCrawler1990]

Greetings from India. I played this game for 3 years, 20 years back ..... These days I play World of Warcraft. But really happy that this game still exists and still has a decent player base. Gonna check in soon. Just for the nostalgia. I was 13, when I first played this game, now I am 32. Lol :'D

[@gamecitizen]

I was 12 when I first played, and now I'm 30! 😅

[@elempresario2165]

if we could have a old Ragnarok online with new engine, and new graphic, but same game with all the new improvement

[@gamecitizen]

I like the 2.5D anime style graphics! The sad truth is that Gravity will just keep making more and more mobile games. Most of their income comes from mobiles, and they follow the money, not the passion...

[@reverieren2908]

I hope they would make a ragnarok that can't solo MVP instead a set of party with healer tanker and damager to defeat one.

[@pakainnamansenyo10]

Shining Moon server was able to solve this kind of issue by making multi level teir of instances like, normal - you can solo, hard, you might consider bringing an fs, hell - needs to be close to a whale, purgatory - needs a full party.

[@DerLaessigerZocker]

i honestly wanted to play this again ( old school max lvl 99 ) hopefully they make one in Europe

[@gamecitizen]

When they released the current European Official Server, it started as max 99, and slowly catching up with updates. I don't think Gravity is interested in released an old school server in Europe. Maybe if the Koran Ragnarok Zero works out well, but even then, the official European server is just too small...

[@bobstodomingo]

I played ragnarok classic since 2004, in Ragnarok Philippines, but until they migrated in IRO, now still playing in Thor Server. I still like to play in PC, than in mobile 😍

[@howardalteisen2281]

Walang pera sa Mobile. Since 2002 pa account ko. Since na block ang EU sa iRO nawalan na ng gana sa Thor kaya lumipat ako ng chaos. Wala ng buhay sa Thor ayaw nila eh merge.

[@gamecitizen]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think there is a new official server for the Phillippines. Is that right? Have you checked it?

[@bobstodomingo]

@@gamecitizen Yes there is a new one, but my account was from the old 2004, so I sticked with it

[@reilwaystation9511]

@@gamecitizen yes and its dying lol. NovaRO is the best if the pride of the player can take playing in a rouge server

[@gamecitizen]

@@reilwaystation9511 Aren't you worried Nova might close at any time? It's been a while since I last got news about the Gravity vs Nova lawsuit. That's my real issue regarding any server, official or not: the prospects of longevity.

[@markmangapit]

I just want the original ragnarok with higher frames, resolution and smoother graphics/effects (not the 3d kind in mobile)

[@gamecitizen]

Yeah, I also never enjoyed the 3D in the mobile ragnaroks. That's what I think Lost Memories got right!

[@eberhardmezurich2026]

Me too. I just hate “that trying so hard to look cute”- mobile RO

[@KokoKrunchs]

This game will always the top of my list. So much happiness and memories. The social aspect is what makes this game the absolute bom at that time. Nowdays, they just create other games and put “Ragnarok” title and milk their playerbase. Sad but it is what it is.

[@NiCeNuKNaN]

Personally, I think it's time to add a brand new class (1-1 class) for the game. Ex, Necromancer, the class using Dark and Undead magic aspect or new race which can play all class (exclude Dorams') like, A birdman race or Dragon/Reptile-like race

[@gamecitizen]

It's strange why they didn't add variations of Doram. I mean, it isn't really a different race, it's a class of its own. Grantly, there are three possible builds, but why didn't they add the possibility of having a Doram thief? Anyway, our hopes are in vain, since Gravity is busy with the 4th classes and they didn't say anything about new first classes... In the mobile versions of Ragnarok, they have been adding more mixtures, though.

[@GinsuSher]

I remember playing the alpha in the Philippines. Damn. 20 years.

[@xvii5766]

What RO needs the most is content for sure, hard bosses

[@captainsunbear5472]

for you maybe, i almost never mvp hunt, or woe. i just like to grind new characters,

[@myth2145]

Hi I'm new to the channel Could you explain why do you think 4th jobs are an insult to the spirit of the game?

[@gamecitizen]

Well, consider the 2-2. They expanded the game horizontally. The 4th classes are mostly based on doing higher damage, even for classes like rogue, that always had more "alternative" skills. The game has changed. With the end of the Holy Trinity, the rise of solo-play and overpowered cash shop items, it makes sense for the 4th classes to be focused on doing more damage. It is a vertical progress in the game. Instead of 4th classes, I would much rather have a new ramification of classes, the 2-3, or alternative 3rd classes! But I dream...

[@myth2145]

@@gamecitizen Interesting! I have a similar take to yours, so I was interested hearing your reasoning, thanks

[@MARVINGAYE662]

1. Launch 100 version of RO's and keep milikng all RO's player. 2. Close down after 6 month and make new RO's. Repeat no 1

[@utlythach6366]

Love Ragnarok when the Ragnarok Online 3 coming out.

[@gamecitizen]

I guess never. Ragnarok 2 didn't achieve a scratch of the same success as classic Ragnarok. But there are always tons of new mobile games inspired on Ragnarok.

[@ghifarimubarak7730]

maybe you should review some good RO private server that worth to play in 2022. Because we always want to play this classic game Thx for the content keep goin bro..

[@gamecitizen]

Thanks! That's a good idea, I think I will start a series reviewing servers, private and official ones :)

[@beenbin9812]

there really is a lot of problem to the company itself from the playerbase to it's game engine, there are so many ways they could go and play with but it seems that every release of a new game or new content they do it's always lackluster. just from the top of my head: New game engine of course Genshin visuals and storytelling TOF mechanics It's hard to hook new and young audience to the IP but harder to retain them, make the 20 year history of the IP easy to digest for them Take all of the existing ragnarok IP's into one full game We did love the episode limits back then where you can't proceed unless a new episode has come

[@clothokaftan]

i have always had this odd feeling that it wasn't the playerbase who did the hacking attacks on gravity, i mean i can believe them hacking the developer servers to get a copy of the source code of the game and perhaps even the concept arts, ideas & plans, whitebox designs, gameplay features, etc. but i cant imagine them intentionally sabotaging gravity to the point of destroying everything they worked on out of spite, only for samsung to swoop in? i don't buy that. what i think happened is that samsung themselves masqueraded as one of the hacking groups that attacked gravity, corporately sabotaged them to a crippling level, then waited for them to go bankrupt before buying them outright for peanuts. my theory for this is based on the fact that shortly after the forced acquisition the CEO and founder of gravity as well as a lot of the senior staff and developers were booted out and replaced with samsung's corporation goons. in a real-world scenario this would have never taken place since back then senior game developers were very rare and hard to find, especially online game developers, dont forget that this was in 2002 - 2003 when there were literally only a handful of mmorpg's anywhere in the world. there's no way in hell that the CEO would have allowed this to happen in the first place otherwise, gravity was his baby and ragnarok was his most ambitious work. i'm almost certain that there was some kind of foul play involved. note that later in the future samsung through gravity would endlessly accuse the private servers of destroying ragnarok online long before any of the private servers even had the staying power to compete with the official servers directly, at ragnarok onlines peak it had hundreds of thousands of players across the world while the private servers had at best a few hundred with the best private servers having a few thousand players. its obvious that they were shifting the blame away from themselves, but what isn't obvious is that samsung likely orchestrated it to use the community as a scapegoat to allay any suspicions away from themselves. it wasn't until the shuttering of official ragnarok servers across the world that the private servers started to grow in size, and only because the playerbase had nowhere else to go, the renewal update destroyed the foundations of the game and began the beginning of the end for gravity as the slow exodus started; and then the development of ragnarok 2 spelled the end for the franchise since it signaled to the community that development and support for ragnarok 1 was ending. with the closures of servers around the world every few months, the future looked bleak. the most hardcore communities tried their best to keep the strongest ragnarok servers alive with Ragnarok Singapore, Ragnarok Malaysia, and Ragnarok Philippines being some of the last servers to shutter in 2021 despite still having strong communities due to gravity (samsung) blindsiding their publishers on the contract renewals. in the end the private servers didn't do anywhere nearly as much damage as gravity itself did, and i believe that samsung is the culprit behind it all. of course for any of this to be proven someone would have to sue samsung for corporate sabotage, but there really is nobody left who can, since gravity today isn't even a shadow of its former self, its a thin veil in the aether of its former self. i have a very strong belief that the community would have never done such a horrible thing to the OG gravity since we love this game so much that we still think about it fondly after more than 20 years since its original debut.

[@gamecitizen]

You might be right! Korea, after all, is a almost a feudal state of Samsung.

[@Soul_Wizard_Of_Lemuria]

They will milk this game to death by making endless gacha mobile game versions of it.

[@Johnnyrockenvoyage]

The problems of official is that ALL items are useless. U just need the cash shop. In private, you use the gear you drop. All drop on iRO are crap.

[@gamecitizen]

Completely agree. I think most officials face that problem. Nowadays, 'new content' means what new overpowered item arrived in the cash shop.

[@noface_777]

If Gravity made an “international” classic pre-renewal server (similar to classic WoW), it’ll be a big success. It’ll bring back a lot of og players and steal back the private server players. They just have to do it correctly, increase sub cost (og players got money), reduce and balance the cash shop, and just make it as similar of a server as possible.

[@gamecitizen]

I really wish they did that. They have the Ragnarok Zero in Korea, which is a take on classic ragnarok. But this is just us dreaming. iRO, the "international" server, blocs most ips around the world! Gravity is more interested in their next mobile cash grab than anything else.

[@frostna8006]

at 9:15 you said you will post a link down below with the documents but I can't find the link in the description.

[@gamecitizen]

Oh, I forgot to add the link! I will add it now. Here is the link: www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1313310/000156459021021574/grvy-20f_20201231.htm (Just remembering that this document was released over a year ago)

[@howardalteisen2281]

Need to improved is make it HD. The game play still good and i still play since 2002 until now on iR0 always choose official server. Private servers are no Future lots of corrupt GM after taking all donation they closed the server then re open again and find someone who hook to thier server

[@gamecitizen]

Exactly. Official servers have many problems, but so do private servers, at least the bigger ones. There was corruption in the official Brazilian server - but so there was in Nova. I can understand playing on private if the person doesn't want to use VPN and can't connect to an official one, or in case the person wants to play older versions of the game.

[@abrahambrandao8310]

I plate on IRO and I’m not biast to any servers , can honestly say I will play RO for the rest of my life , and to many people RO is eternal.

[@CloudminS2]

I have a question: i'm from Italy, and I would like to play this game again. Should i join the official european one or should i try a unofficial server? what is the difference between these two in terms of: playability, updates with events etc.?

[@gamecitizen]

All right, so... Each server is different. Regarding updates, usually private servers are the most updated servers, because they bypass the bureaucracy. The reason why official servers outside Korea take so long to get updates is, mainly, due to internal company bureaucracy. I live in England, but since I'm from Brazil, I prefer to play on the official Brazilian server (it feels more nostalgic to me). I don't recommend playing the official European server. Europe had an official server, it closed a few years ago, and with it, all the old characters. The new European server is a completely fresh new server. The population is very low. If they have closed the server once, what guarantees they won't close it again? Regarding stability, regarding the prospects of the life of the server, I think the official European is on equal status to private ones. The interesting thing about the private ones is the variety, specially of the old school Ragnarok, the one you and I played more than 15 years ago. Ragnarok has changed a lot, so if you want to have a taste of the vanilla ragnarok, private servers will cater you better. Regarding updated private servers, there are many, NovaRO being the strongest, but be careful - rumor says the server is about to close due to Gravity's recent hunt against private servers. My tip: try iRO - but you will need VPN. You can any VPN for free for one month, it can be NordVPN or ExpressVPN. Try and see if you like it. Try the European as well. Just download, create a char, and play it for a weekend. Check their forums and discords to see how active they are. If you are okay using VPN, I would go for iRO. If you want to taste oldschool ragnarok, I would try a private one.

[@resaleking14]

Covid 2020 brought back alot of that party play , it was great , i quit winter 2022 , came back aug 2023 , game is dead.

[@terushinomiya]

The need to properly animate the series again, since the isekai genere has been everywhere for quite a while.

[@jeeshzor]

Literally all you need to bring players back to official from private. Start fresh CLASSIC server. Cash shop should ONLY be cosmetic, and actually make a proper goddamn effort to prevent bots. Private servers can do it and they thrive.

[@gamecitizen]

Exactly. People say that the recent classic server in iRO shows that classic servers aren't good anymore. Not true. As you said, there are so many classic private servers out there. What ruined the iro classic were the bots. But nowadays there are tools to avoid bots, like the EAC. Also, by having a permanent classic server that is free to access and just cosmetic cash shop, Gravity would not spend too much money, since they would not need to develop new things, and they would be supporting their right to the intellectual property. But, go figure Gravity and Warpportal... They prefer to release new mobile games... They just released one today, btw.

[@balaw8466]

I started playing iRo again, got maxed level, then there is no real goal for the game,for best in slot items are already in the cash shops except for the cards.

[@gamecitizen]

Yes, I completely agree. I tried to cover that in my last video. When we think of classic Ragnarok, the game didn't finish by reaching level 99. But, nowadays, it's all about the next overpowered cash shop item. Interestingly, I started from zero recently in iRO. I have lots of good equipment in bRO (official Brazilian server), but I enjoy so much that early stage in Ragnarok. The problem is that I know that once I reach the max level, as you said, the game fades away. Then I spend a couple of months without playing the game, return for the nostalgia again, and so the cycle begins again! xD

[@_ANGST]

@@gamecitizen The original developers wanted to implement housing back in the days. Is it still not in the game?

[@gamecitizen]

@@_ANGST Yeah, they had that plan, but they gave up just after the engine leaked. So, they gave up on the housing system pretty much before even releasing Ragnarok. I don't think they will ever bring it. I have never heard anything from Gravity about implementing that in the future.

[@_ANGST]

@@gamecitizen Always heartbreaking to see an amazing groundwork done for game development and the people who now own the brand just stretching it out & never investing in the future. This form of laziness makes me angry, as you might have noticed. It just happens too often, everywhere: Game developers who are players become or get replaced by moneymen who are constantly afraid and choose safe money over quality. Every. Time. On top of that, if Tree of Savior had real producers, game designers & musicians, we wouldn't even need Ragnarok! :D

[@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891]

I just want to share a comment that I did in other channel, kinda not related but I hope you like this story... Geezzz... Me as as 33 saw this RO content in 2023?! Wow... Want some story? I'm from Phillipines! It was Published by LEVEL UP GAMES with active game and live events from the very beginning. I played this game from 2003-2008 and 2010-2013. This game defined my teenage years (mid high school to college) as a gamer, it made me totally quit console games and go full PC until (which is casual since I'm a father of 2 now). I meet 3 girlfriends (even my 1st, shout-out Paula circa 2004 at French Baker, SM Fairview, hahah!) in this game but didn't lasts long since they are rich chicks, I'm a commoner (and young dumb teen, not in my prime), but those failed puppy love or failed relationship, it builds character. This game is fine from 2003-2007 even in a form of Monthly Subscription (a good one compare to now) since you can hunt Gears without spending real world money (except for buying RMT or PHP as we call it back then), and don't have Item Mall and Microtrasaction, even plague with bots, all towns and dungeons are alive and pack with humans players in party which make grinding more fun! Prontera the Main City as a Hub for Marketplace is packed and filled with responsive buying and selling. Players were reduced back then when Renewal was introduced (as stated in your video) since you have to achieve Max Level TWICE! (99 from OG JOB and 99 in Renew), new comer must double the effort needed to keep up with older one. It was slowly dying when Free to Play Server was introduced in 2007 with Microtrasaction of Consumable Items that Heals, Buffs and Boost Stats (great for rich players) meaning you can go solo specially when given to OP Renew Jobs like Biochemist that Spams Damage and Champion having 1 Huge Blow Damage, these guys and those items killed the joy of Party Leveling, people go solo... Like BOTS... But PVP is Fun but bit unfair. And when 2010 came, (I quit for a while to play Rohan Online 2008-2010), but when 3rd Job was released but oh, boy... Monthly Subscription Server and Free to Play Servers are now ALL-IN for Item Mall ONLY Gears and Cards (OP ones), Premium Subscription is added in F2P Server with Advantages and Finally the thing that REALLY KILLED the game here in Philippines in early 2010s? CNR or Cash N Receive! You'll have to pay (forgot how it is) Real Money Online to get OP Items and Gears giving edge to deep pocket players... AND THE FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN! Seven Eleven Promo Codes when Buying Slurpee or CD Album with RO related song, these code contains ANOTHER OP Gears and 200M Zeny (Game Currency) that BROKE the Game by Overpowering Heavy Spenders (guilty here) and BROKE Economy (a 10M Gear became 100M overnight) creating Hyper Inflation that really upsets A LOT OF GAMER! And that's it, months after that Real Life Rich Gamers become Gods in the Game and when I couldn't keep up... I said goodbye to the game... Years later after I got married in 2013, I've heard all Philippine Servers are shutting down... Sad, but life must move on, we get old and that's the REAL REASON why Ragnarok Online Died. Gamers... Go.. Old... And... Boring... Life became suck... Sorry for bad/sad ending... Wrote this one in almost and hour, made my youngest asleep. Hope you like story, have a great day my old fellow Ragnarokers... =)

[@gamecitizen]

Hey, really nice story! I loved reading it! I didn't know that in the Philippines server the company managing the game sold zeny. I mean, there were (and still are) lots of RMT, but the company managining the game doing it, that is so wild! - And you are right: MMOs die because we get old... and boring... Wise words!

[@mrgtmodernretrogamingtech6891]

@@gamecitizen Thanks! Glad you like my story, I love sharing joy and painful memories when it comes to my (our) beloved Ragnarok Online, same thing here and I LOVE hearing yours.... Made my burning passion ignited a bit, and try again casually playing iRO or create an Offline Ragnarok Game in my PC since I still have 2 Sealed Copy of "War of Imperium" and "Juno" (hope the CD is data rotted yet), make a playthrough content like you... Again, sorry for my sad ending story, hope it doesn't affect you bro, AND THANK YOU FOR A GREAT AND INSPIRING CONTENT!

[@kiaraayroso6792]

I’m also from Philippines it’s very nostalgic to see some people still inlove with this game .. I can admit that even up to this date I’m stil hoping to find a server that will make ragnarok back again to it old glory days .. but I know it’s just a dream .. 😅😅😅

[@MasterJackmarjun]

The classic ro was the best, I've played the close beta server in Ph last 2000 From free to play to pay to play

[@gamecitizen]

First time I played was in early 2005! Also went through the pay-to-play to the free-to-play, or should we say pay-to-win!

[@jridad0275]

subbed for the RO content.

[@matotstv9369]

RO global server ..old school RO on mobile .not the 3d .same gameplay but good control or joystick.i miss this game ..

[@jackcollin1695]

So what happens to those who spent real money on this for thousands or even millions in pesos back then when the original had been closed?i was a kid back then and for me i spent atleast 3k pesos and that was big money for me back then as a highschool student (from 2002 to 2005)

[@gamecitizen]

It's all gone. Into Gravity's pocket. :/

[@-PurdyBurdy-]

All that money from mobile games and they cant even remaster or remake the original with a new engine and sprites. Horrible people treating their original like trash.

[@Drethmaster]

I think they should animate the manga it will be a great promotion

[@gamecitizen]

Yeah! When they did the animation, it was based on the game. They should have made it closer to the manwa. It's a shame the manwa was never finished.

[@Drethmaster]

If they own the IP for the manwa they can just hire someone to continue the story base on the actual lores in the game. Not only that they can profit in it, it will also give a huge boost to all the games.

[@gamecitizen]

@@Drethmaster I'm not sure if they do. The creator of the manwa participated in the creation of Ragnarok Online, but within a few years he left. After seeing what the Cyberpunk anime in Netflix did to the game, I'm sure it would also be super good for our Ragnarok!

[@mattlong5746]

they will never go away from pay to win mobile games. I think the company should just go under so we can stop hoping for a remaster or remake of the game.

[@gamecitizen]

It would be good if they went under, only then the private community would really flourish and ragnarok would certainly become a better game!

[@abbasaltake1414]

@@gamecitizen OPEN SOURCE RAGNAROK WOULD BE AMAZING.

[@monez2864]

Classic Ragnarok Online (remastered) ❤

[@kimyip5565]

Definitely needs a remaster. I recently tried to play again in a private server but the clunky laggy movement... makes it unplayable for me. Do what diablo 2 did with resurrected and I will definitely give this game a go again.

[@mataca9]

there is a few brazilian private server that have more than 8k active players

[@gamecitizen]

Sério? Quais servidores? Fiquei interessado agora! :)

[@amirulhafeez6282]

aesthetics wise, if they do a TOS visual style to the classic old RO game, where the map is immersive and big. where every monster we met is iconic and rememberable. that would be great. game design wise, come on~ its a 20+ years old game, it needs a lot of revamps of mechanics and monetization design. change the control design, change the core mechanics, etc. i hope they return to their roots, which is THE "anime" version of Lineage2.

[@gamecitizen]

What monetization design do you think would be better? I think a monthly payment would just drive people away from the game. Ideally a cash shop of just visuals? But, to be honest, most of their income come from mobile games anyway, so they could just stop the aggressive monetization in the classic computer ragnarok.

[@amirulhafeez6282]

@@gamecitizen hmm, there is a lot of ways actually. in my opinion, there are 3 ideal ways to monetize the so called new RO. (which is im pretty sure gravity would not do this) 😆😆 1. selling expansion areas like ESO would work (we can choose what to buy and play, and what not to buy). but of course needed the base game to be some what. "free". 2. visual cash shop is a good way to generate cash aswell, cause i would pay to look good tho. 😆 any costume that tied to the class fantasy should be awesome, like for example, swordsman basic model is from prontera. then they can generate version 2 and 3 (not just color change, but change in design as well, pattern, materials, etc. but still remaining the class iconic piece. example, swordie with their tippet on their shoulder with a swordie emblem pattern) then they even can fantasize what if there is a payon theme swordie costume, alberta, geffen, and so on. this will be a great design exercise for the dev and a good exploration for us players. 3. VIP plans would be great as well, but.....not too over the top tho. probably VIP is just for the"serious" hard core players to min max loot potential %.

[@gamecitizen]

@@amirulhafeez6282 I loved your idea 1! I think I will steal it and make a video about it 😁

[@amirulhafeez6282]

@@gamecitizen that's great! sure, lets tell gravity how much we love the IP and its world. as much we want the IP to survive, lets take it back from the hungry loot box gatcha dev. 😅

[@SubliminalEncryption]

So you suggest they change everything but the story/IP? That's not evolving ragnarok. That's slapping ragnaroks face onto a different robot. Let's not forget they did alot that already with RO2. And that was a dumpster

[@ARBENGAMINGG]

do they still have a global server? if yes, link please.

[@gamecitizen]

Well, technically speaking, iRO is the international server. It literraly means "international Ragnarok Online". However, in practice, it is not international. Many regions are ip blocked. So, if you want to play on an official server, it depends on where you live. But you can use VPN, it works too.

[@ARBENGAMINGG]

@@gamecitizen Already tried iRo but did not like it because the progress is very fast, unlike the old RO that have the classic rate. :'( I miss those good old RO classic days.

[@martinharyanto4465]

Well as much as them being incompetent, honestly they still exist and improve their game. The fact and the survival of the company shown, that whatever they are doing is "correct". As the time wen by, I would say the purpose/spirit was shifting, they are fighting against another MMORPG in the era, Ran (newest free mmorpg at the time), RF, Seal, Rose, Domo, etc. They show the world that, they survive. I agree with GameCitizien that the 4th classes are an insult to the spirit of the game. Honestly, they should've made Ragnarok 2 as a Ragnarok game but with better graphic and broader system. I understand that they don't want to kill Ragnarok like RAN did (we wont see it anywhere anymore). But Ragnarok 2 is also an insult as the game itself. There are a finite timing and content for the game. They can't just keep scaling it as far as they want, because then the game will have to help the new players to catch up with older player, and with this idea all new player will not experience what older player experienced when they start the game. They won't feel the "party" and "waiting" (but then this is what the nowadays popular game rely on) Even though I hated Gravity for every little thing, but honestly they are the best out there for MMORPG. They are like Apple, Android, Toyota, etc, as a leading mmorpg company.

[@reilwaystation9511]

But stocks of gravity falling down

[@martinharyanto4465]

@@reilwaystation9511 yeah, but even with that fact, they still able to continue development on their games... I really appreciate them.

[@reilwaystation9511]

@@martinharyanto4465 i wanna root for gravity but dùe to bad experience in their official servers. I really can't but yeah i hope they continue developing their game with passion and only few p2w concepts

[@martinharyanto4465]

@@reilwaystation9511 nah im also not rooting for the officiak anymore. Its a fact that gravity producing games that is very interesting to play. But seeing the official servers full of bot and p2w content, I would say thats why they are not very big. Example of good product but bad company. They can survive, but just not the best out there

[@hamzakhalil31]

Is there any official server working well in middle east area as all the servers is lagging extremely

[@gamecitizen]

As far as I know, there are no official servers in the middle east area :/ Have you tried using a VPN?

[@hamzakhalil31]

@@gamecitizen no I will try to use vpn but I don't think it will work

[@masaiz4059]

Gravity, we need ragnarok online remastered.

[@restiction1532]

Did you ever wonder if the game would strive if the graphics is like assassin creed but ragnarok aesthetic

[@gamecitizen]

I'm not sure if it would, but even if it would, Gravity has no interest at all in doing that. Most of their money comes from mobile games, and that is clearly the route they will keep persuing. As a comparison, there is Albion, which is also "top-down", but they have poor graphics, which allows them to run the game on mobiles. Genshin Impact is an exception!

[@utlythach6366]

Love Ragnarok Online love the creator.

[@aesthetical3090]

It's not about the game only but the people we meet along the way. I guess gravity has no plans on fixing the bot problems. but maybe, just may, put back the subscription to eliminate bots? I don't know. sigh, developers, do something

[@gamecitizen]

Putting back subscriptions wouldn't work. Most servers had subscription and suffered from bots. EAC blocks bots. It worked wonders in the Brazilian official server, bRO. But it doesn't block macro.

[@aesthetical3090]

@@gamecitizen I guess the game would remain broken until gravity really do something about it.

[@axellyann5085]

O negócio é jogar quando der vontade e parar quando saturar, e assim repetindo esse ciclo até o jogo finalmente morrer de vez. O jogo não vai melhorar por que como todo mundo sabe não é o foco da gravity, tudo que a gente pode fazer é entrar pra brincar um pouco e é isso.

[@gamecitizen]

Exato, ainda bem que o jogo ainda ta vivo!

[@ricksouza9299]

Bots have ruined the brazilian server still for a long time, they ran rampant for a decade and here we had next to no punishment for them; whats even worse, there are several accusations of corruption and association between GMs and botters/RMT players what makes matters even worse (i.e. a duping bug happened a while ago and the GMs did nothing; instead of doing a rollback on the server they just pretend nothing happened and said they punished a couple people)

[@gamecitizen]

Sou brasileiro tb! :) O bRO teve muita coisa ruim. O EAC limpou o bRO dos bots, e o kRO ainda não usa o EAC. Ah, a LUG não fez um serviço fenomenal não. Tenho muitas e muitas críticas à LUG! Principalmente com o RF...

[@ador7572]

Can anyone recommend a server Im in the UK.

[@user-xg3jz1th2k]

if only gravity stop being greedy making RO trash mobile games. and trying remake RO. i miss grinding card drop, leveling with party, and upgrading equipment

[@tristramemerge]

I play private servers because of GM are more active and they have more events. Yeah they need $$$ too but its worth to give give them some because of their effort. More people played private server just because of this reason. Gravity make more version ragnarok especially for PC for what? $$$? They can do it to the main game put mobile, put gotcha if they want they are just separating the players 😂

[@design926]

Please give me link website

[@gamecitizen]

Sure, I will put it on the description

[@gamecitizen]

It's this one: m.post.naver.com/viewer/postView.naver?memberNo=4505449&volumeNo=34229172

[@design926]

Thank's 👌

[@dinaauliani6160]

Ragnarok mobile games is p2w.. what i mean p2w here is "heavily-p2w".. not spender player will stay crawling on the floor

[@harrywilbert9762]

3. Class was the worst thing they could add to the game

[@blahblahgdp]

Was a great idea to suddenly attack Private servers btw. -.-

[@gamecitizen]

Gravity is just shooting its own foot by attacking the private servers. They can't possibly be thinking that all the players in these servers will migrate to official ones. Even if they get some players, they are damaging the brand, the ip.

[@alredza7366]

Official gonna go nft isnt it?

[@gamecitizen]

No, not the official. They will release a mobile Ragnarok that will use nft. But I never enjoyed the mobile ragnaroks anyway

[@johnpaulsanchez1121]

bruh private servers are better since they allow stuff that players want to have.

[@keselekbakiak]

The future? Finish the fuckin manhwa!

[@gamecitizen]

Yeah! It's a shame it never got finished!

[@rezacomplex5327]

the main problem... bot. 1st release server apply anti bot.. sea server market crush right now :sigh

[@gamecitizen]

Yeah, the two main problems (which are connected, btw): Inflation and bots. So, in the official Brazilian server, they now use EAC, and there are no more bots. EAC has its problems, but it has trully worked to deter the bots. But the inflation is still a problem. It has been about 2 years since they started using EAC, so it has been about 2 years that we don't have bots there, but the inflation got even worse...

[@rezacomplex5327]

@@gamecitizen their really not learn from old mistake... open new server just same that 2 problem facing

[@gamecitizen]

@@rezacomplex5327 Yeah, iRO is opening a new server.... I have no idea why, if it will have the exact same problems...

[@Helan87]

Honestly I don't give a f**ck of them, there are unofficial servers... :)

[@dpyxl]

Ragnarok Origin is closer to Ragnarok Online... but the gameplay update is too slow to progress that most of its original Korean players got bored and tired of waiting for the next content... until now a year passed we are still waiting for the 4th job of all job classes.. this problem is set aside with its greedy P2W content and repetitive ingame quest.

[@gamecitizen]

I would love to try the Korean server, the problem is that I no nothing of Korean! And you need a mobile number to play there, right? From what I am told, the Korean and the Japanese servers are the healthiest of them all.

[@dpyxl]

@@gamecitizen English patch is free.. only need vpn when updating the game weekly but no need for vpn in playing. ezpz

[@gamecitizen]

@@dpyxl That's great news for my project of trying every single Ragnarok server!

[@reilwaystation9511]

Well private servers doing things better

[@mataca9]

I tryed some mobile, with some hope, but is a lame. The mobile games should be names "Ragnarok Cassino"

[@gamecitizen]

Definitely! They are cash-grab games. Gravity even acknowledge that in their annual financial report.

[@LOLLOL-kg4dz]

they just need remaster ragnarok online 2002 . and stop making bullsh1t 3D ragnarok mobile games every year ,seriously nobody ask for that lol

[@86Corvus]

WE HAVE BIGGER SCREEN RESOLUTIONS NOW!, ITS NOT 1998! 1024x768 ISNT THE STANDARD ANYMORE!!!

[@marzukiismael9833]

Old RO is P2W (PLAY to win) and RO nowaday is P2W too (PAY to win) :)

[@Selfra33]

i prefer old school classic ragnarok that need to load so you can play!!!

[@kuyakenken5503]

I quit ro because of bots

[@gamecitizen]

Bots are extremely annoying. The official Brazilian server has been using EAC, and it really got rid of all the bots. However, the inflation keeps super high. The current problem in the official Brazilian server is the use of macros.

[@Alemis_]

@@gamecitizen Bro, wha means EAC??? o.O

[@gamecitizen]

@@Alemis_ It stands for Easy Anti Cheat. It's a paid program that works can quite, in that it blocks bot programs, like openkore.

[@billyreyes4842]

remove the bot

[@gamecitizen]

The servers using EAC managed to get rid of the bots! A bit too late, but hey, better late than never.

[@leveluplife8270]

New ways to destroy its legacy and milk players?

[@christiancabrera5464]

They are stuck and no better ideas comes up ragnarok is dead

[@aicaadventure2651]

hopefully they make a mobile platform playable on mobile the old RO Pc version.. see flyffuniverse for reference.

[@gamecitizen]

That would be so wonderful! I don't like any of the mobile versions. Old ragnarok on mobile would be so amazing! I did play a bit of flyforfun in the past, I will check out how the franchise is doing nowadays