What are Red Dot Magnifiers Really For?

[@deltashot5608]

In my experience through thousands of hours and many reps and drills, ive found that magnifiers are very usefull for magnifying the image so that you can see more far away.

[@kursantstrzelecki2958]

This is not a piece of information to be shared lightly, sir. Terrorists may be reading this.

[@ryanhadfield5306]

@@kursantstrzelecki2958Pretty sure this is an ITAR violation.

[@TigerDude333]

this is the hard hitting commentary I'm here for

[@chevtow]

Don’t forget it turns the weapon into fully auto, at least according to politicians lol

[@Mike_44]

Now I really need one! 😄😄

[@ironraccoon3536]

I'm proud of you, Hop. Putting that EOTech behind the SIG is a great first step to overcoming Compulsive Brand Matching Disorder (CBMD)

[@Firstamongstslowbois]

I’m actually recovering from this

[@williamflowers9435]

It’s wrong!!! 🤬 So wrong🤯 They must match, just like your offset red dot and LPVO if using the same mount! (It’s acceptable if mounted separately) Is there a 12 Step Program for this? I need help… 12 steps is a lot (4 or 5 seems more plausible) before my ADHD overrides curing my OCD

[@AEtrane]

Meanwhile Hop will unironically slap a holosun reflex on top of an acog 😂

[@Enjoyer.762]

No brand mixing lol.

[@baronvonsnazzy3355]

@@Enjoyer.762I too am a purest.

[@gansior4744]

Romeo 8T with a Magnifier must feel like having a USS enterprise on the rifle

[@MiseryDuke69]

It's honestly not all that but it's noticeable lol

[@KS-yg9jr]

@@MiseryDuke69 After 2 weeks, it all feels the same. I agree. People amp shit up so much.

[@Pyreleaf]

it's a pretty bulky setup, sure. I paired my 8T with a Holosun 3xt, and between those two and the rear bui, I actually have to bridge the 8T onto the handguard (it's fine - I'm running an Aero M4E1 enhanced upper and handguard, so there's no gap and it's rock-solid, basically monolithic).

[@michaele1564]

Went with a PA MICRO 3X magnifier. It's pretty light and offsets the heavy 8T a bit. But the whole thing is bombproof and a faxon gunnerweight barrel it's not as heavy as the M4 I carried.

[@jonniez62]

Which one?

[@docternoblex]

The majority of people truly run a red dot magnifier because they have 20/70 vision from sitting in front of their PC hopped up on 2 liters of diet coke and angrily destroying their keyboard on internet forums and shopping for Amazon Special accessories

[@Hoplopfheil]

Literally me

[@docternoblex]

@@Hoplopfheil right but you’re not fat and you actually go out and shoot

[@tubeguy4066]

​@@docternoblex>hop isn't skinny You don't have to kiss ass that much

[@A_potato9772]

I am a dual citizen of the PC Gaming Master Race and the Prism Scope Master Race

[@Almost3331]

This is me. I work in IT and am now super near sighted lmao.

[@sqike001ton]

As someone who ran a magnifier and eotech for a long time I have always treated it as easier to slap a target a 200 while keeping the holo for closer in rangers (200 is about the longest shot I can find being a east coaster)

[@thomascaston4644]

What do you run now?

[@sqike001ton]

@@thomascaston4644 I still run that, tho I have dabbled in LPVOs. I guess I should proof read that comment it sounds past tense when it wasn't meant to be.

[@fbswampfox]

May fortune smile upon you and get you out west sometime soon! My range extends out 17 miles!

[@smnkm4ehfer]

200yds? Come to the Appalachians and the southern plains of Central PA. Flat range as far as the eye can see right up to the mountains

[@sqike001ton]

@@smnkm4ehfer I'm from central pa but I'm in the mountains if you get an open area it's still hilly

[@igamewhenimbored7696]

This is finally the video about magnifiers that the world needed, from someone who has actual perspective on the many offerings and actually used them. Invaluable.

[@juanoncello86]

Romeo 8T with Unity FAST riser absolute cowitness and magnifier: when you want to PR curls while also crushing on the 100 yd flat range.

[@ikemouser2580]

get off the flat range

[@cardboard_shaft]

@@ikemouser2580😢

[@tx611]

Solid video. Spot on about actual real-world uses for a magnifier. People brag about shooting a bright white target the size of a truck door placed in front of a perfect green background that doesn't move and think they will be able to engage targets past 300.

[@Enjoyer.762]

And soooo many average civilians just have access to state-of-the-art ranges with moving targets at unknown distances. Amirite? Wtf lol.

[@piotrprzytycki7919]

​@@Enjoyer.762if you have at least one friend you can each take turns setting up targets for each other

[@SJ-km5ly]

​@@Enjoyer.762Doesn't nullify what tx611 said. He's right on.

[@Enjoyer.762]

@@SJ-km5ly And your reply doesn't nullify what I said. Most people can't even train at all because they only have access to a stationary Fudd range.

[@viponly5372]

@@Enjoyer.762 so you really didnt say anything still lol

[@believethehype8936]

11:03 is where I benefited most from this video! THANK YOU FOR MIX MATCHING MAGNIFIERS TO (at the very least 1) DIFFERENT OPTIC!!

[@AK47Uprising]

Really like the Juliet 4 magnifier personally. Works great on my setup for my intended use case, but I think it’s important that everyone carefully consider their intended use case and their own capabilities before deciding on an optics system as that lets you make the best decision for what you’ll need it for.

[@m4e1supremacy]

can the juliet 4 be removed from the mount and flipped around, so it will flip to the left instead of the right?

[@smalltowncop4907]

​@@m4e1supremacy yes it can, i have one.

[@jpmriccardi]

“use case” Really?? Good grief.

[@paulyp9853]

I have Eotech G45 and the 5x doesnt bother me at all. I think the eyebox is ok for a magnifier. The eyebox on all magnifiers leaves something to be desired so between the 3's and 5's we are sort of splitting hairs. The 3'x may be better but by how much? Is it worth the extra magnification? Questions you have to answer for yourself. I will say the Eotech 5's are much better than the Juliet 5's as far as eye box - clarity is night and day. Eotech 5's are also better than the Juliet 4's from my experience. With that said I have looked behind a 6x and to me - just my opinion - the disparity in usability between the Vortex 6x and the Eotech 5x was vast. The 6 was hard to stay behind. I like the extra magnification when needed and if you are trying to be more precise than hitting man size target the magnification really helps.

[@andrewg4192]

Agreed. I love my G45. I have never thought that it is difficult to use.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

The G45 has better eye relief that the 33 actually. It’s a pretty bad ass magnifier. I don’t own one but have shot all three eotech magnifiers. I stuck with the g33 as it’s enough for my MK18.

[@paulyp9853]

@@Heywoodthepeckerwood The G45 does have better eye relief but the eye box on the G33 is better, but by how much really in both instances? We are splitting hairs on both. Both are really good - it comes down to which one you want, and how much magnification you think you need.

[@C420sailor]

Same, love the G45

[@PrecisionRifleNetwork]

Another solid vid Hop. Thanks. I'm a huge 36y zero fan.

[@terrarecon]

I am from the old Marine Corps guard, pre-ACOG, got out in 2004. One of my MOSs was PMI (Primary Marksmanship Instructor). Marines, other than Recon, Force Recon, MARSOC, Scout/Snipers, throughout our history ONLY ever used iron sights. Our KD course went from 200 to 500 yards. Generally Marines are very good riflemen, at least the old Marine guard was with just iron sights. I am not saying there is a right or wrong optics set-up. I am only highlighting that I think too many people skip leg day when it comes to shooting with iron sights or a red dot at distances we Marines, other military branches, and private citizens used to regularly shoot at. LPVO have become a crutch IMO, not saying don't use them, I am saying don't disadvantage yourselves by ONLY running the envogue LPVO set-ups only. Train with all of the optical options you have on your rifles. Ask yourselves this, If you have back-up iron sights do you train regularly with them as much you many of yo shoot with LPVOs?? And yes, Hop is absolutely right about also training beyond KD. 👍

[@Axethales]

SemperFi - Got out in 1992!! I'm deadly out to 500M with iron sites, and struggle very much with scopes. The corps taught us too well. My platforms rely heavily on irons. 4 years, 4 expert badges exceeding 235 pts!

[@Pantone268Plus]

As a Marine that was in mid 2007 and started with irons then got an ACOG later I have some opinions on this. Yes, you can train with irons and unmagnified optics, but you can't PID a target or observe it without magnification. You also can't easily verify a hit at 500 yards without magnification.

[@terrarecon]

@@Pantone268Plus you speak no lies. I agree.

[@Mr__Geno]

Agreed.

[@FMDad-dm5qo]

Holosun HM3x 1/3 spacer height lines up fine with Sig micro red dots on Scalarworks 1/3 mount. Just a data point. (Btw Holosun is the OEM for Chinese Sig dots, so this is substantially compliant with the “don’t mix makers” axiom, for those who care.)

[@FMDad-dm5qo]

Also had no problem getting the HM3x w/ spacer to line up with a buddy’s lower 1/3 Eotech (EXPS3 I think). Just a few clicks up on the magnifier’s elevation turret and reticle was centered.

[@b00fmeister]

To add to your data point, my Holosun 3x works perfect with my Aimpoint T2, regarding the "dont mix makers" part. Both lower 1/3rd height

[@bg_azn]

Hop vid on the pooper = great monday

[@bunrudge]

I've found that, asthetics aside, precise vertical alignment between red dot and magnifier isn't necessary. Like more than a half inch off didn't change parallax or usability. And furthermore, magnifiers visually clean up red dots that look wonky due to my astigmatism. I set the diopter, put a strip of gaffer tape on it, and it's crisp dot reticles forever.

[@m4e1supremacy]

looking cool is most important

[@SJ-km5ly]

​​@@m4e1supremacyIf you're larping around in you basement in front of a mirror it is! LOL😅 And don't forget your bulletproof helmet and chest rig!

[@m4e1supremacy]

@@SJ-km5ly OP here has used his gear, knows its short comings and afaik, is proficient with his red dot/magnifier setup. therefore, he looks cool. using your gear and being proficient with it, means you'll look cool, and looking cool is most important.

[@Slai47]

This entire video just makes me happy i went with a canted setup. 5x prism with a canted red dot does so much for most people

[@tire26]

Man it's hard to find people that actually know what they're talking about and make good points. Subscribed. I admit I like my LVPO for various situations but I can't help but love my EoTech and 3X. For SHTF, in my area I don't need a 1-6X but it sure is nicer on the range!

[@SyrupCanuck]

I have a Eotech Xps2-2 on a unity riser and thinking G43 or G45 with unity FTC. Thoughts?

[@tire26]

@@SyrupCanuck I don't have experience with those mounts so i couldn't say. The EoTech magnifiers seem fine and clear but for the money, I'm happy to go with a cheaper magnifier. I risked it on Vortex and I'm happy. I haven't beat it up though, it's had a gentle life so far. I have the 2 dot EoTech too, my favorite. Good luck!

[@SyrupCanuck]

@@tire26 wonder how that trijicon one is its only 3x tho

[@craigmelchiano72]

Awesome. This is how you make a video like this. knowledgable, efficient, perfect. thank you.

[@Quality_Guru]

Great intel. What I would really like to know is when is it best to go with a LPVO vs a Red Dot & Magnifier vs a MPVO with a red dot.

[@seanwhite304]

EXPS3 With Micro Triplier is my favorite setup for 300Y and in . I run 2 Rigs . One listed above and the other is TA31CH-G ACOG with offset MRDS. I use my EXPS3 with Micro 3x all the time in 2Gun matches . I have 0 issues hitting reduced C zone target at 300Y . It will take 2 or 3 rounds to hit 8" plate at 300Y . Sometimes I can get it on first shot . I'm using YHM 1/2" Full Flat Top Riser . I'm also using IRREGULARS FEER BCM SOPMOD 0.5 Cheek Riser . I do not have issues picking up the 3x . I do not run NV . I just have long neck lol..

[@knightmarex13]

feel like we need a follow up to this about why some red dots work and don't work with magnifiers. I know you have touched on this with emitter location in some of your videos.

[@justinsimpson2335]

Those shots ringing across the mountainside👌

[@alexisdetocqueville9964]

A QD magnifier (not a shitty push button mount like the new Juliets) is a must. No need to zero so it's very easy to take it on and off. Realistically I am not shooting past 400 so it's perfect for me.

[@MrAirsoft6mm]

@Hop you should check out the Trijicon 3x magnifier. Can buy it separately from the MRO and is the best magnifier IMO.

[@SyrupCanuck]

Heard good things about that trijicon but I can't help but think it looks and feels like the Vortex 3x

[@DesertTactical]

I won a very budget monstrum dot and magnifier combo. My first set up as such. Been training with it and definitely see the advantage and uses.

[@SauerkrautIsGood]

Something you didn't mention (and this is a VERY small detail, I know) was that putting a magnifier behind an Eotech isn't quite the same as putting one behind a red dot. With a red dot, the dot is also magnified. With an Eotech, the dot stays the same size - which means it practically goes from a 1 MOA dot to a 1/3 MOA dot that allows for more precise aiming (if using a 3x magnifier).

[@e0001030]

True, that's one thing reflex sight cannot offers

[@ericstrauss9435]

This is wrong. 1 moa stays 1 moa, 2 moa stays 2 moa. The entire image in front of the magnifier is magnified. EoTech reticle doesn’t magically shrink to 1/3 moa. It’s physics.

[@SauerkrautIsGood]

@ericstrauss9435 Eotech dots are actually infinitesimally small. The human eye resolves the dot at about 1 moa if you have good vision. This means that you can never magnify the dot, it will always stay the same size no matter how much magnification you put it through. Practically, this means that the dot "effecively" becomes 1/3 MOA when you put it through a 3x maginifer. The rest of the image is magnified, but the dot stays the same. In other words, the dot shrinks relative to the target. Yes, it is physics. Holograms are really complicated.

[@fly-by-wilson3039]

I have a T2 and EOTech 5x magnifier both with unity 2.26 mounts on my 300 blackout. It looks good and feels right. I must have a skinny, long face, because I never feel like I get a good chic weld with most lower mounts. I am always fighting the stock with my ear pro. I am a relatively inexperienced shooter, but that is just what is comfortable for me. Thank you for the thought intriguing video!

[@deltathirtyfour]

My man! Killer video, so many real life pros and cons in this video. Take notes fellas.

[@RangeDayBro]

Great video bro, love the knowledge and I learned something today.

[@jammbbs1688]

If you need to run higher Mounts just by a neck brace boom stability

[@baronvonsnazzy3355]

I agree, 3x-4x is where it should be. I like them on shorter guns as an option for +300m

[@tomi6261]

Ay the expense of a little weight, I am still sticking to my fav LPVO's. Better clarity/resolution, better in low light, variable power from 1x to Xx and only one piece of gear to deal with.

[@benhetland9409]

I really like my Sig 5x micro magnifier. It's compact and works great. Eyebox is decent, and it's pretty clear.

[@ironraccoon3536]

So, is there a reason to use a magnifier if you don't have NV?

[@Hoplopfheil]

Sure

[@SantosGunworks]

Ben from Wiseman Company has videos where he says that you do have to zero the magnifier. It will be close if you enter it, but you still have to verify it and fine tune it. From my experience with magnifiers, I agree with him.

[@Hoplopfheil]

I have never been able to demonstrate a difference in POI with a magnifier.

[@SantosGunworks]

I had a shift with my Aimpoint Red Dot with Aimpoint Magnifier. I zeroed the red dot perfectly dead in at 50 yards and when I put on the magnifier, it was shooting half inch to the right. I moved the windage on the magnifier to the left and it was better. I still can’t explain it, but I’ve seen it.

[@Hoplopfheil]

Which Aimpoint?

[@SantosGunworks]

@@Hoplopfheil It was an Aimpoint T-1. There was nothing wrong with the Aimpoint or the Aimpoint magnifier. When zeroing them, I first zero the red dot by itself and then shoot with the magnifier and if there is a shift, I just adjust the magnifier. I do not know if it is a parallax thing or something else.

[@Hoplopfheil]

The Aimpoint T1 has pretty bad parallax. Sounds like using the magnifier causes you to adjust your head position and induce a parallax shift.

[@davidschlageter5962]

the EXPS3-2 has a ranging reticle for 100, 200 300 and 400 meters. A standing person filling the 65 MOA circle is 100 meters, from the bottom of the ring to center dot is 200, from the ring to the second dot 300 and between the two dots 400.

[@chetgoldstadt8250]

very useful and practical video Hop....thanks for the info

[@justinhalethesenuts7769]

We all need a unity flip to center in our life

[@RedEyePergo]

Holosun 512C and Primary Arms 3x is my setup

[@nukiesduke6868]

I mean if you're going to be engaging long distances anyways why not go 308 with LPVO. Surely that'd be better?

[@HWG-wm8ld]

Why not a 50?

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

I'd bring a mortar team and a drone, YOLO

[@funnyklown1]

I slap my nods right on top the unity flip to center. It works fine. Shot it lots running n gunning. I'm sure it would be nicer with it off but I just keep it on.

[@tonymiano1300]

The EOTECH 3-2 and 3-4 do actually have a form of rangefinder. The circle is 65MOA, which is roughly the height of an average human at 100 yards. So doing the math of "does a human sized target cover the entire circle, half the circle, or a quarter of the circle" can give you a rough estimate of distance.

[@apersonontheinternet8006]

All EOTechs have range estimation capabilities, the problem is that the casuals don’t know what they don’t know. Brownells has a video on KZbin titled EOTech range estimation.

[@rawkemsawkem3328]

Cognizant: great awareness ACOGnizant: fudd level awareness

[@calebw7177]

I really find using the exps3-4 on my 10.5 with a g43 extremely useful. Given I stock pile 1 ammo so I simply chronograph my ammo and zero according to give me the drops I want. 0-500 yards is relatively easy without having to remember holds or guess.

[@dependablekit5500]

Deltathirtyfour did a great job on the best zero great video bub keepem comin!!!!I love my Eotech Exps3-2 very handy for ranging as well!!!

[@nick3d155]

This was really informative but I didn't find a big difference between the 3 and 5x magnufiers for eye relief.

[@TheDoomWizard]

I have a Sightmark M-Spec that you reviewed and were meh about but with the 5x magnifier from same company it's just fine. Go ahead trolls.

[@Thekulprit92]

If i was stuck on using a red dot, or i had already invested into one, i wouldnt hesitate to get a magnifier, as well as you should have one in that instance without doubt

[@danielschmidt123]

Im a magnifier newbie. As such i was quite dissapointed with the eyebox and how short the needed eye relief was. Really have to scrunch into the gun since ive got buis and mounted the magnifier in front of them. (Coming from a leupy vx6 2-12 on my hunting AR in a bobro, that thing sits perfect and has forgiving eye relief). Ive come to accept that the gun is primarily for

[@HWG-wm8ld]

Get some education

[@austinporter4285]

LONG COMMENT ALERT! I use the juliet 6 on my ballistic advantage 10.3 hanson barreled upper simply because it is sub moa with my handloads and I already have a twin upper with an lpvo. As for the juliet 6, the eye relief is pretty terrible for any rapid target acquisition however I expected that going in and I can't deny that having 6x capability on an accurate sbr can tremendously increase the range that people like to say sbr's are effective up to and the eye relief becomes a bit of a non factor when you know your needing or wanting an immediate 6x magnification straight from regular sight, you should expect to be forced to take time to adjust your eye to the magnification as well as find the area around your target before you can even find your target 90 percent of the time same as looking through a pair of binoculars and scanning til you find a marker. Performance wise i couldnt be happier and it seems to be a very sturdy magnifier with spacers and clear disposable lense covers you can use on the front and back. I regularly plink 300 and 400 yard targets with m193 and I go up to 650 yards with handloads on the juliet 6 and Ive hit my 12 inch gong at 750 yards multiple times with my razor gen 2 lpvo on the other 10.3 upper... not a HUGE difference for having a more mid range purpose built optic vs a red dot/magnifier combo. Eye relief is of course better on the lpvo at 6x compared to any 6x magnifier I've tried and thats all of them I believe.

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Magnified red dots are exactly what they sound like, magnified red dots. If you already have a red dot, a QD/flip-to-side magnifier is a good addition. They're not a replacement for a proper magnified optic, they're a capability increase.

[@TheAtarashiiKaze]

Firstly, I get that I'm.. odd. I've had a Tactician red dot with 3x magnifier on my 45-70 lever gun for 3+ years now and it makes a great combination.

[@tsoliot5913]

I found out the problem with rain as a bespectacled PNWer one rainy evening. I realized i had FIVE lenses to wipe.

[@sandville2396]

Comment for the algorithm gods cause great content as always brazza

[@MrMountain707]

Never thought about the rain aspect.

[@OutsideTheTargetDemographic]

Never considered the "put the red dot on it and now your magnified scope should be on target" bonus. Nice.

[@FlightIsLife]

Do you have any issues with durability and knocking the magnifiers off while using just the red dot? That's one of my big concerns about this type of setup... the idea of running around shooting with that magnifier hanging off the side makes me worried it won't be there when I stop to shoot

[@MrRdvs87]

I never messed with these but it seems like the fixed 3x micro prism covers the spread of anything from naked dot to 4x LPVOs,

[@Nachtjagerz]

In my experience I had quite some issues trying to fit Juliet 3x with Romeo 4 and 8. I endend up using the triji one which works really good. No idea why, one would think that the same brand should work just fine but this was not the case

[@detroitvseverybody3813]

6:50 after talking to a sales rep from Eotech, apparently all Eotechs are now made in Traverse City MI. Not sure how true this is but i like to hope they are staying in Michigan

[@thomaszhang3101]

6:03 but magnifiers are so easy to take off and put back on the rifle. Why would you keep the magnifier on for passive aiming in the first place?

[@ChuckSneed88]

I have a pa md25 acss with the pa 3x acss magnifer, i did this bc i wanted as close to an acog as i could get with a rds mag combo and so far im pretty satisfied with it

[@toddinfl]

I cud have commented 2 weeks ago but didn't

[@Hoplopfheil]

I admire your patience

[@phillipk1258]

Where can I find an ultra low QD mount for a flip-to-side Holosun 3x? (I’d like to use it on an AK) Secondly, it’s CRAZY the new PA magnifiers don’t come with a QD mount!

[@swiss_luri8151]

The flip to center are qd so them getting in the way of night vision isn't really a concern.

[@Mitsurugi2424]

That last issue is one of the reasons why I try to run my red dots and magnifiers absolute cowitness.

[@Shawnxsather]

I’ll bring this up, just because you didn’t. I ran an EXPS3-0 with a G33 on a Samson quick flip Mount for a long time. Not very long ago, I randomly took the magnifier off and ran a couple drills at the open Range and I found out I liked it a lot better without the magnifier. With the magnifier flipped of the the side, you lose a lot of field of view, the right side for me, basically any vision from 1 o’clock to 3 o’clockish was just looking at wall, this is problematic when trying to quickly adjust to a target on your right side without breaking cheek to stock weld or having to move so slowly you don’t pass over the target or moving too fast and missing the target completely and having to correct back to the left. Just something I found, if you have a magnifier, take it off and see. Obviously you lose some distance advantage, but in the grand scheme of things, I’d rather see something in front of my face over something 300m+ away.

[@kevinhullinger8743]

I’m a fan of magnifiers period

[@Jay2Slay556]

Awesome video and useful information I needed been thinking about the Romeo 4t pro with a magnifier on my Geissele super duty. Still don’t know what magnifier I want though also the shooting terrain your on looks amazing would love to shoot there lol.

[@calebburrichter8452]

I feel exactly the same, friend. Same gun, same idea for setup, and I wish I could shoot somewhere like that with some friends.

[@NotAnOperator442]

I always saw them as an easier way to identify a threat at that distance of around 250 yards where you could still land rounds unmagnified but want to be sure what your shooting is a “bad guy”. Personally never was a huge fan, felt like extra weight that is underutilized. What do you guys think?

[@Haikeoutdoor]

I think so.

[@chrisacton4200]

Thank you hop

[@kristofer1123]

What state are you in? The terrain looks awesome.

[@reubensandwich9249]

Hey Hop, what are red dots good at?

[@Hoplopfheil]

Nothing Everything

[@compulsivegunbuyer]

Good stuff

[@jeshowls]

Aww man hop didn't dunk on them very much, I guess there won't be a deluge of deals to be had this time around

[@python471]

Hey @Hoplopfheil, have you noticed running the vortex 6x that its inability to return to "center" is noticeably worse than other magnifiers? I find when using it, my reticle can be in any random quadrant of the eyebox after recoil or flipping it in/out vs. simply being a bit off-center. Not sure if it's an issue with the product or just inherent to higher powered magnifiers.

[@Hoplopfheil]

I think it's more noticeable on the 6x mags than on the others, even ones using the same mount. Maybe it's the extra magnification, or maybe it's the extra weight of the magnifier jolting it when it snaps back and forth.

[@Santaheckler]

I’m a simple man, but my Juliet 3 micro really helps me see without strain at the 100yd + range…getting old 🤫

[@SC_Actual]

Do you like the cloud legacy body with the 3.0? I’m loving mine so far

[@Hoplopfheil]

Not my gun, I would never own a Cloud light

[@SC_Actual]

@@Hoplopfheil oof 😞

[@ThePatriotParadox]

EOTECH or 8T.. . Otherwise a 2moa dot or an LPVO (and really everyone needs to try them all)

[@Sklit77002]

A veteran to Iraq and Afghanistan with the 3/75 told me 100 yards you can see a face 200 yards no face 300 yards hands disappear 400 yards head disappears 500 yards light between legs disappears 600 yards fat triangle

[@Syntax_Error_404]

I first bought the sight in order to look at cats closely. Only after I had looked at cats closely I bought the rest of the rifle. You gotta have priorities.

[@linearswitchguy9593]

yoo direct action pack !! fire

[@charmingmander331]

"force multipler" is i guess a decent way to discribe it.

[@jcarter855]

The beginning looked like "9 HOP Reviews" LOL

[@mattwernecke2342]

What's your field of view at 100 yards? I basically live surrounded by dense semi tropical woodlands. Maybe a good fit?

[@brandanb9735]

@6:13, I mean, we've all clonged our tube, amirght?

[@jonathanrogers9961]

magnification does not extend the range of your rifle, or make you more accurate. It simply allows you to see your target better.

[@jonathanrogers9961]

@@shiftd_1114 The range of a gun is finite and dependent on the cartridge. Your optics and skill determine how much of that range you can use out to the cartridges maximize effective range. So an optic may let you use more of that range effectively but not extend the range. Also with traditional red dots and say 5.56 you have one zero and have to Kentucky windage beyond that. I believe he was talking about a combat zero where you can hit a target of a specific size while aiming directly at it, without hold over or kentucky windage.

[@formam1022]

Alot of new magnifiers have a way to "sight" them in, is there a way that you can use that feature to have a different zero with a magnifier?

[@Hoplopfheil]

no

[@herknorth8691]

I've used the 4x SIG Juliet magnifier with a Holosun red dot that has the ACSS reticle for a while now. If a BDC lines up with your gun, ammo, and environmental conditions, then you lucked out and I certainly can claim that. I ran the combo at a run-n-gun match (Big Ben Blast n' Dash) last summer where there was targets out to 600 yards and the BDC lined up perfectly out to that distance. I have a non-ACSS Holosun on my M&P 15-22 as well and I can put the magnifier on that rifle if I want magnification.

[@smnkm4ehfer]

I'm just sad that my OCD makes me have to pair an expensive Aimpoint CompM5b with an expensive Scalarworks LEAP combo, and an expensive Aimpoint Magnifier. But I've always ran Aimpoint and always loved them

[@homevalueglass3809]

I don't know, for me, I just like having magnified optics, especially an LVPO, because it makes things easier to see. To me, 200 yards is pretty damn far to see what I'm shooting at. I even like magnified optics for 100 yards.

[@williamrogers.]

Once again I am happy with my setup and you say not to do it...... Unity flip to center 5X EOtech with nods. Eat it!

[@k.1873]

Where is he at 2:10. Looks like the coolest “range” in the world

[@spearton-1912]

10:48 why does he look like if patrick bateman was a boog larper "I like to dissect girls... at night in the middle of nowhere. did you know I'm utterly insane?"

[@DeOppressoLiber]

Hop What optics with FDE color are you using at the very beginning of the video.

[@sylthaya7571]

*has forgrip* *holds the splinter treestump?*

[@joerandel4649]

Romeo 3 works with eotech 512

[@fmatthew5876]

@hoplopfheil Have you tried the aimpoint 3XMAG-1 or 6XMAG-1? Expensive, but both have very good eye relief, including the 6x variant.

[@IFarmBugs]

G45 seemed like a no brainer to me cause bigger zoom for same price 🙉🙈