This video quickly answers the question "What are space marines in Hearts of Iron 4?" Game: Hearts of Iron 4 Hearts of Iron 4 is a 4X grand strategy video game developed by Paradox Interactive. #short #shorts #hoi4
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@noahcook2972 жыл бұрын
the fucking rule's list is killing me "allies need to be incompetent and always yelling at each other" LMAO
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I had a lot of fun writing it ;)
@noahcook2972 жыл бұрын
@@Pydgin it does feel like that in most MP games nowadays. these kids cant handle a bit of trolling now. cant have shit in detroit
@ultimategotea2 жыл бұрын
@@noahcook297 when you lose north africa because italy wasn't garrisoning algiers, you learn why people yell
@mrgopnik5964 Жыл бұрын
Too easy otherwise XD
@eli-mi3mh Жыл бұрын
Bo in a nutshell lol
@BlockMaster101012 жыл бұрын
"If d-day is successful and the allies get past the siegfried line host needs to alt+f4 and call the allies cheaters in discord after the game" Wow does that really happen?
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
Those "rules" were just a bit of a joke. It depends on who you play with though. It's like any game there will always be the occasional rage quitter.
@BlockMaster101012 жыл бұрын
@@Pydgin Ah ok
@jcrosenkreuz52132 жыл бұрын
Them's the rules, happenned in OTL as well although said player alt-f4'd a little later
@someloser60412 жыл бұрын
I was once accused of cheating while playing in a non-hist game. For reference I was hosting and it was just after La Resistance released, naturally I was Germany (as I couldn't trust that not to happen) and because it was a new dlc I decided I would use a very minimal ruleset. Austria-Hungary formed, but you see there was a nice little issue. In the dawn of 1940 it was revealed that France, Italy, Austria-Hungary and the Soviets were friends and they allied eachother. Now, back in the day I would do the certifiable hood classic no planes, infantry spam (then full tank focus Germany). This meant my strat was essentially starting in 36 I would build nothing but Infantry Equipment, Light Tanks (Veterancy gained in China and Spain really does the work and it was determined by Width, so you could convert the light tanks to Mediums or heavies without losing it). I would usually be on Service By Requirement with the sheer amount of meatballs I would have by war start. Now, with that background in mind naturally, like a good German, I decided the most natura course of action. Completely abandon all hope of holding anywhere in the Eastern borders and instead retreat to the rivers near Berlin (to quote Wilhelm it would shame me more to lose Qingdao to the Japanese than Berlin to the Russians) and settle down for trench warfare until my tanks were ready to go. Blasted Austria and Italy's assws with SPGs (Britain allied me and convoy escorted so I could trade) but the Frenchies just refused to break because air scary so naturally I gave up and proceeded to Blitz the Russians instead. It took until 1944 for the glorious victory. They were malding, streamed going into the save and everything. Truly my finest HOI4 gamer moment.
@xano29212 жыл бұрын
@@someloser6041 lol
@name-yn6vu2 жыл бұрын
The virgin "Noo you can't use superior division templates this is literally unplayable" vs the chad "another 300k casualty push against a minmaxxer? Splendid."
@jeremiahevans41752 жыл бұрын
*1b casualty push
@jackko90MI2 жыл бұрын
@Omar Khurshid AND...???
@meganixi5282 Жыл бұрын
@Omar Khurshid What happened after'?? We must know
@meganixi5282 Жыл бұрын
@Omar Khurshid Glorious.
@mikkel066h Жыл бұрын
300k casualties? That was just the scouting party. Send in another million to take that town. “Some commissar probably”
@captainkeyes15232 жыл бұрын
You all think it’s a joke, but that list of rules is what Bokoen1 actually uses
@OneBiasedOpinion4 ай бұрын
Real.
@timesnewlogan20322 ай бұрын
“Swimmy, the Eastern Front is collapsing” “No.”
@louisnall31022 жыл бұрын
If you do this as a Japan Player, you get to also say “For the Emperor!”
@baronbrummbar86912 жыл бұрын
considering the Warhammer Empire is the HRE i would go with german players
@XpVersusVista2 жыл бұрын
@@baronbrummbar8691 you aren't the brightest bulp in the room it seems xD Japan because Japan had a legit *emperor* at that time. Hitler was Reichskanzler, not Emperor.
@baronbrummbar86912 жыл бұрын
@@XpVersusVista ............................
@baronbrummbar86912 жыл бұрын
@@XpVersusVista i sayd HRE ------ Holy Roman Empire ---- witch was always an empire
@baronbrummbar86912 жыл бұрын
@@XpVersusVista also hitlers offical title was "Führer von Deutschland" the latin translation of führen is Imperi --- making him the Imperator / Emperor - Kaiser is just the old german prenouncation for Ceasar
@tagus1002 жыл бұрын
So If I have a Light Armoured Recon support company, with armour greater than 20, then hardly any of the enemy AI can pierce it and therefore, the entirey of my division loses 50% less org and takes 50% less damage, whereas the enemy takes 50% more damage? 730 hours in the game and I never knew of this.
@dragonfire73542 жыл бұрын
Its my experience the enemy actually usually does invest in Anti-Tank or Anti-Air, at least while playing as Germany.
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
yeah, if they can't be pierced you take 50% less org/hp damage. The enemy infantry won't be able to push you off a tile as easily. In '36 the AI's inf piercing is around 4. '39 it's around 9. By '43 it's usually 20. The AI does sometimes build AT and AA but it's usually support AA. Germany builds tanks and those be able to pierce you. Also you only do 50% more org damage when attacking and piercing an armored division.
@name-yn6vu2 жыл бұрын
Tbf, I recommend heavy tanks instead, they give you a bit more leeway with the enemy's piercing (at least that's the way I invented them, before I learned about the meta)
@ebrimajallow96312 жыл бұрын
Am a new player, am so glad I learned this
@DeafLord18 Жыл бұрын
I almost always include antitank so no idea if people I played online used this. Not a bad way to use light tanks in the late game. Assuming you can afford it oil wise.
@KaidenOZ2 жыл бұрын
god forbid people actually have to invest in recon or spys and get an idea of what your enemy is building before going to war! what underhanded and cheaterish behavior! BAN THEM
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
Gotta research spies to know who to ban. **taps head**
@sonk9442 жыл бұрын
Spies take civs not worth
@TouhouFan2 жыл бұрын
@MikeProductions1000 Not so more after the NSB dlc If you have more recon in your units, the general can pick a counter in the battle I dont know the full details, but, a lot of times i won under-equipped as Poland vs Soviets just because the tactics of the generals
@Mikey123962 жыл бұрын
@@TouhouFan this has always been the case lmao
@TouhouFan2 жыл бұрын
@@Mikey12396 But before was more about stats and less about tactics Now its 50/50 For me i feel that way
@gorgeousbam86812 жыл бұрын
never could figure these things out myself as to what they were, just sounded like they were op, now i finally understand what space marines actually are!
@Oxley016 Жыл бұрын
The term refers to the space marines/astartes from Warhammer 40k which are huge super human warriors basically wearing a heavy tank for an armoured suit and have super op guns. The term is used in a lot of games, particularly HoI 4 and EU4 when referring to super op units/armies.
@rory81823 ай бұрын
Space Marines are just standard combined warfare
@fbihorse28 күн бұрын
Isn’t an armor unit escorting several infantry units like the most realistic division you can make?
@chrispepper12128 күн бұрын
Yeap, i even added combat support like anti tank, AA, rocket arty and arty after adding infantry and armored, basically modern infantry division kind of organization
@clusterfuck737527 күн бұрын
Yes, but the game doesnt understand it that way it treats the armour value added by a tank as simply "inf has armour value now" and since tanks are so heavily favored in hoi4 inf with armour just breaks the game, i should also add that anti tank is useless for some reason.
@SquooshyCatboy2 жыл бұрын
the counter: anti-tank support company
@Flupenius2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic rules list, you forgot to mention how the soviet player needs to go afk for 1 and a half years after barbarossa is started in order to appease the host germany fanboy player
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
That or hold the marshes for too long and get 100 divisions circled. Either works ;)
@kortans_2 жыл бұрын
ahah this rule-set you made is awesome cant wait to learn about the vtuber hoi4 meta now
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
I didn't make these ;) they're totally a real and legit mp ruleset.
@starleigh6680 Жыл бұрын
Dshakey is the vtuber hoi4 meta
@MyFunnyVids8882 жыл бұрын
Damn guys its almost like using infantry to support tanks is a real life effective tactic that most countries learned in ww2 Edit: stumbled across this vid again and didnt expect to see so many likes and comments. Thats cool
@Gustav_Kuriga2 жыл бұрын
WWI, in WWII they were found to be redundant, costly for what they provided, and far better to just design one tank that could do both roles.
@XpVersusVista2 жыл бұрын
@@Gustav_Kuriga what are you talking about? nothing you just said makes any sense. In ww2 tanks were always supported by infantry, namely mechanized/motorized infantry/Panzergrenadiere. They are still used today (i was a Panzergrenadier in the austrian army)
@Gustav_Kuriga2 жыл бұрын
@@XpVersusVista I confused using infantry to support tanks for an infantry support tank. The former is a must, the latter is outdated British doctrine.
@pat8437 Жыл бұрын
Okay so prolly a dumb question and very late, but in this case, wouldn’t the tanks be supporting the infantry?
@sb6675 Жыл бұрын
@@pat8437 Yes, that's how I view it. adding armor that makes defending from low pierce regular infantry easier for the rest of the infantry infantry supporting the tanks sounds more like motorized units used to keep up and hold lines as tanks break through them
@AtomicueYTАй бұрын
The fact those are banned is hilarious, guess the neckbeard 8,000 hours in game kids cant handle superior division making
@Freaky_Lemonade28 күн бұрын
No if you’ve played multiplayer it’s just generally tedious to deal with Soave marine Divisions, recon tanks are easy since basic anti air can put up a fight but if you start spamming medium tanks in the division it just becomes a race to who can keep producing faster while literally every other template in the game becomes useless
@AtomicueYT13 күн бұрын
@@Freaky_Lemonade boo hoo. Superior division making. Get good.
@deezboyeed676412 күн бұрын
Sure buddy sure, its not like people banned it because its a boring meta. But we get it your one of those people who wants see every match go the ssame way.@AtomicueYT
@AtomicueYT12 күн бұрын
@@deezboyeed6764 no, it’s just neckbeards like you wail and cry too much. Get good.
@IslamicGoku2 жыл бұрын
It's so against the house KZbin style to get to the point and immediately end a video. I don't think I've seen any other channels-- including outside of gaming-- do that. It's very refreshing.
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree! We all know to like, comment and subscribe, no need to say it every video. I don't care about your plans for future videos, no need to sign off. It's all just padding to get that watch time up.
@linkly92722 жыл бұрын
kliksphilip has done that with shorts before. other than that though i cannot think of a single other person aside from Pydgin lol
@XpVersusVista2 жыл бұрын
@@Pydgin hey Pydgin i truly enjoy your videos and subscribed. However, should you at any point start padding your videos, or god forbid start fucking telling me about raid shadow legends, nordVPN or skillshare i will unsubscribe faster than a french man can wave a white flag.
@OneBiasedOpinion4 ай бұрын
I’ve seen a few do it, but not many. Props to Pydgin for bucking the tired old status-quo!
@moa91882 жыл бұрын
The emperor knows no bounds!!
@Sigma-xb6kn2 жыл бұрын
You would guess countering strong units instead of complaining about and banning them would be more interesting for the meta and create fun counter-play, but
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
Woah now! That's too logical. It's easier just to make a rule against them.
@delge15542 жыл бұрын
Literally a support anti-tank is all you need
@johanrosenberg63422 жыл бұрын
I've heard that the issue then is that the game just devolves into boring trench warfare. But I can't confirm because I only play SP.
@lafox28332 жыл бұрын
@@delge1554 but that's way to difficult you have to produce a couple then add them to your support template.... way to difficult for the average hoi4 multiplayer player
@samphillips81882 жыл бұрын
In the past they were not fun to play against because the counter was more Space Marines. They nerfed them but a lot of these rules are just legacy from that. Space Marines are just some cookie cutter division. They aren’t fun to play against and no one becomes creative with their units if you allow them.
@ursosexmachina Жыл бұрын
You know you have no skill when you gotta resort to banning a strat instead of figuring out a way to combat it in multiplayer
@thunderedsun203 Жыл бұрын
who remembers to build anti tank 💀
@terranova_ca Жыл бұрын
@@thunderedsun203 Players who've been on the receiving end of space marines.
@jimmyprince61722 жыл бұрын
Rule 7 is a legitimate multiplayer rule we must all abide by
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
breaking rule 7 will get you uninvited to the next LAN.
@TheDane164 ай бұрын
"get off my ship space marine!"-ork warboss grimskull
@redragon19902 жыл бұрын
Gonna need two cups for this amount of heresy
@rafaelcrespo94652 жыл бұрын
Brother get the flamer…. THE HEAVY FLAMER…
@username-jw7kpАй бұрын
And it's even better in single player since the AI ussualy only uses infantry
@versiak0992 жыл бұрын
i realy like your videos, it helps a lot.
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
Glad to help!
@Blythe985 Жыл бұрын
"Nations with default tree's cannot use kamikaze attacks unless they are a Vtuber" What the hell happened here?
@riccardocarretta33082 жыл бұрын
I swear I knew it was a reference to Warhammer 40k but I never understood why they were called like that. This video freed me from a burden I didn't know I was carrying and you don't know how thankful I am
@Oxley016 Жыл бұрын
Just because the divisions are super op just like the space marines from 40k xD
@ragefacememeaholic5366Ай бұрын
I thought interwar light flamethrower tank companies were the best for space marines. Because of the cost.
@JustAPintOfMilk2 жыл бұрын
jesus mate i didnt expect you to make a video about this so quickly after i asked you. Thanks, love your content.
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
No worries! I already had it written/recorded figured it was a good time to edit it since you asked :)
@0sm1um762 жыл бұрын
Something I've noticed is old reddit threads, people seemed to think Space Marines templates involve actual marine special forces batallions. I can only assume that misconception happened because HOI4 players don't know what Warhammer 40k is and perhaps concepts like armor and piercing weren't as well understood by the community.
@ticklezcat51912 жыл бұрын
It's actually from when there was no special forces cap, marines/mountaineers have better stats than infantry, so they were commonly used in super-divisions at the time.
@0sm1um762 жыл бұрын
@@ticklezcat5191 LOL that makes sense. I started playing a bit before MTG
@mainman8792 жыл бұрын
Way back in the day the only downside to spamming tons of marines was that they required a bit extra infantry equipment if I remember correctly. They had better stats, benefited from spec ops research and advisors, and had better terrain modifiers. Spec ops force cap was added pretty early on, but the old days of marines only were pretty funny. Armored divisions in infantry used to be even stronger as well because hardness was determined by the hardest division instead of an average like today.
@grandengineernathan8 ай бұрын
I play equestria at war in which there are actual space marines, so yes I expected space marines
@TheArklyte6 ай бұрын
1)they know what space marines aka Astartes aka discount Starship Troopers are; 2)in old versions of the game there was no special forces limit. So default ones indeed used marines because they had slightly higher org then normal and were better at crossing rivers and fighting in swamps.
@vverbov22Ай бұрын
Yeah but tanks cost a shit ton. My mass assault brain cannot comprehend putting something else than infantry into my divs
@King1Z712 күн бұрын
Well, a well designed tank in a space marine template will only cost around 8 production, possibly less if needed, which is not that expensive and therefore quite affordable
@clinicallystupid15052 жыл бұрын
By the emporer, I've just heard some HERESY!!!! 😂
@d_all_in Жыл бұрын
I spent so much time researching templates and reading about space marines and this video explained it better than all of that in 2 minutes. Great channel.
@Pydgin Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. I personally struggled when I first bought this game, I make the tutorials I wish I had.
@johntaylor7029 Жыл бұрын
As a guy who enjoys Italian singer player, finding a way to cheese light tanks is essential
@nobodythenothingian7 ай бұрын
"Which can be anywhere 1 to 20" Meanwhile my 100 armor supermarine divisions: Am I a joke to you?
@timhand33802 жыл бұрын
AA in any template basically negates space Marines.
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
woah now! Get out of here with your facts and logic ;)
@alexandrutheodorbileca42662 жыл бұрын
Also shoots down planes. Also that, no one lands with no air.
@TheBusbyBabes4 ай бұрын
What? Why?
@hifreindso6962 ай бұрын
I made a variation of this in my most recent playthrough. Played as democratic germany. My armys are base calvalry, and my infintry are 9 soldiers one artillery and one heavy tank. They bulldoze troops and defend like a wall. (No dlc)
@hugofavier18922 ай бұрын
Basically the french doctrine during the war
@jaffy99392 жыл бұрын
This seems like it wouldnt feel like cheesing to me in all honesty It makes sense to have infantry be supported by armored elements, in my head anyway
@Tyrrituil Жыл бұрын
Its cheating to force me to have to counter you with anti-tank :(
@jozopako2 жыл бұрын
Cavalry doesn't apply for space marines and also support companies doesn't apply. You are free to make these divisions in most of competetive multiplayer games.
@presenttomato10602 жыл бұрын
weren't tanks originally used alongside infantry in world war 1 as some kind of infantry support? THEY USED SPACE MARINES IN REAL LIFE??????
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in all conflicts they have needed need some kind of infantry, but at least in hoi4 motorize and mech are kinda the same thing as leg infantry they can just move quicker.
@presenttomato10602 жыл бұрын
@@Pydgin Yeah, I guess the way Paradox represents this is with division organisation.
@baronbrummbar86912 жыл бұрын
WW1 tanks where mostly propaganda ----- they where so slow that they just got vaporized by artillery
@unclemestor2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the anime v-tuber exception. Fought long and hard for that rule.
@haulperrel254716 күн бұрын
im old enough to remember when space marines actually used marines
@ostrichhe4d2 жыл бұрын
I have 1000 hours on hoi4 and never heard of these, thanks.
@handlesarecringe9572 жыл бұрын
Other thing to take into consideration is breakthrough, which is why heavy tanks are common in Space Marines templates. If you have a lot of SF cap like the Soviets or China, you can also straight up make your Space Marines actual marines for the extra org and breakthrough.
@SmoofyTripp4 ай бұрын
One of the rules is that you're not allowed to be better than Dankus
@Zaxstronemi4 ай бұрын
The Emperor Protects.
@TheJemShuffle2 жыл бұрын
The people who made these rules have no idea what "All is fair in love and war" means
@therealgaben55278 ай бұрын
People do host no rule games, but there is a reason why people don’t play them. It’s not very fun playing Germany and having a France player who declares war on you Rhineland to fuck you over. Also there are things in the game which you can do that just don’t make sense, like a historical usa being able to join the war against Germany even before France falls.
@King1Z712 күн бұрын
@@therealgaben5527wanting to keep it realistic and therefore having some rules is alright, however, banning space marines goes against this realism, since infantry units being accompanied by tanks was a common idea
@liquidsnake68792 жыл бұрын
Imagine banning a template because you're too incompetent to deal with it in MP lol there is no cheese, IRL if an infantry division has tanks and the other only has infantry, the one that's all infantry is gonna get rekt by the one that has even one tank brigade unless ofc they have bazookas but without bazookas the tanks are unopposed, it's not something cheesy at all it's just a good template and it's actually how many tank divisions work irl Just rush AT II and you've beaten Space Marines lol
@aguy36642 жыл бұрын
space marines where a big problem pre NSB when heavy tanks where unpierceable you would add heavy tank destroyer and look at that you can pierce heavy tanks
@nahuelleandroarroyo6 ай бұрын
Space marines were very broken, a major with heavy industry would delete amything that looked slighlty as infantry, piercing used to work as a all or nothing and armour was a value that came from the strongest batallion, it was less weighted that it currently is
@felipescheuermann17363 ай бұрын
Ive used 20 width being 9 inf and a single heavy tank... never knew it was considered "space marines"😂
@andrewhoppas79844 ай бұрын
“12 - Die hard is a Christmas movie” 😂😂
@ertrick36932 жыл бұрын
Armor stat is why I *love* putting light tank recon on my fighting infantry templates lately. Stick that recon on there as well as cheap flame tanks, support AA and arty, and either a single brigade of artillery or of AA, along with enough infantry to turn it into a 27-wide template, and it's going to smash basically any dumb thing the vanilla AI makes.
@hatchmaster_57456 ай бұрын
It's just a good idea, that's genuinely just what militaries do
@theapexdragon50103 ай бұрын
I didnt know this was a specific thing, i always put armored recom with them.
@fireiron369 Жыл бұрын
My server doesn’t ban Space Marines either because they are so ludicrously easy to counter
@Cattoman-5 ай бұрын
I heard you say space marines and I immediately thought that super inhuman soldiers from the 40th millennium had not made it to hoi4
@ArsunGalm14 ай бұрын
A like to make AA tanks cause their armor stat don’t change and it’s becomes a nice bonus against enemy airforce
@rekire___2 жыл бұрын
There is one rules in single player, the rules is there is no rules
@killawhale87262 жыл бұрын
I find that heavy TDs on soviet infantry works very nicely.
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
hey, if it works for you, it works. I ain't going to judge :D
@monchamonchi72042 жыл бұрын
For Hearts of Iron II: The Darkest Hour, most of major countries did sent an space astronauts to outside Earth from 1960s.
@ESG12 жыл бұрын
You had me at "Short"
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I make long videos that are over 2 minutes. ;)
@ESG12 жыл бұрын
Make a second channel for playthroughs. I think there is a button under your youtube studio.
@Anty20042 жыл бұрын
Never played with space marines in single player. The division templates are already powerful enough
@mrgopnik5964 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget that France isn't allowed to deny Rhineland
@DrillTheThirdHole Жыл бұрын
“Muh OP division” bro just build some tank destroyers
@mrscsi64728 ай бұрын
funnily enough this is basically how the ifv came to be invented. an ifv is basically an apc that can act like a tank when needed. normally an apc just drops the troops off and leaves, but an ifv sticks around and provides fire support with its 20mm gun
@regret7548 Жыл бұрын
It’s all fun and games until one of them start staying “For the Emperor!!!”
@Probably_Talhah5 ай бұрын
Never knew my infantry division was a space marine division, i always added a tank to my infantry divisions.
@ArcticWolf264 ай бұрын
One year later and a single God damn light tank in a 9 infantry template will let me out dps Germany and only holds because of death stacking
@grandengineernathan8 ай бұрын
chads play with actual space marines in equestria at war
@noobsworld42176 ай бұрын
Suffer not the heretic? Suffer not the xenos? FOR THE EMPEROR!
@kovacs81gabor10 ай бұрын
I personally love using armored recon for ANY division early game
@danielgloyd4529 Жыл бұрын
That rule set was amazing. I feel bad for those that don't pause to actually read them all. 11.25/10 would use this rule set for my MP games.
@ddarkon12238 ай бұрын
Space marines are literally the example of combined arms warfare A necessity
@The_Iron_Storyteller3 ай бұрын
FOR THE EMPEROR
@genericviewer96734 ай бұрын
You can't stop me. WE MARCH FOR MACRAGGE!!!!
@kevinisnotscargaming7296 Жыл бұрын
"Die Hard is a Christmas movie" I'm glad I took the time to read the list because it made me laugh for every rule 🤣
@saigitsjevstignejevs8 Жыл бұрын
This has been my standart infantry template for the past year, plus arty sometimes if i feel like it, didnt know it was called a spacemarine division
@shaggybottomtext83632 жыл бұрын
Germany main here, little adjustment for the axis rules. Germany is only allowed to produce tigers, anything else will result in ban
@weedwhacker28710 ай бұрын
“Romania can only lend lease Germany if they say ‘pwetty pwease’” that one fuckin sent me for some reason
@sora644442 жыл бұрын
I don't really get why they get banned, just slap some at in your infantry and call it a day, at it's cheaper than tanks so it's not like you have to invest that much to counter it
@samphillips81882 жыл бұрын
Legacy from when it was very strong and not fun to play against. It would just be everyone using Space Marines. No creativity
@eetuthescrub1206 Жыл бұрын
Back in my day, space marines WERE marines since before the special forces cap
@Gilder-von-Schattenkreuz Жыл бұрын
Why Space Marines tough. Its Simply Combined Arms Warfare. It was common Tactic in WW2 to add Tank Units to work together with Infantry Units so that they could take Fire for the Infantry and therefore massively Reduce losses of the Infantry. It was one of the Basic Strategies especially in the US where they tried to always have at least a Few Tank with each Infantry Division to give them the Fire and Armor Support.
@cm012 жыл бұрын
good ruleset. I'll have to add some of those to my next game.
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
Please don't.
@absolutechad9735 Жыл бұрын
I would do this on my paratrooper divisions before I knew what space marines were, I’d stick armored recon on them and just cheese away
@Killabear-en2xq3 ай бұрын
The multi-player rule list tho😂 Italy can't garrison ports in Europe? Tf
@casusincorrabilis15842 жыл бұрын
The explanation of why spacemarines are so "stronk" is a bit wrong. They don't take half damage, they actually take MINIMUM 50% less damage, but actually up to 80 % less damage, depending on the attack to defense ratio if they aren't pierced. And they also inflict extra org damage.
@Pydgin2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to be proved wrong but piercing is binary and doesn't scale. Attack to defense ratio applies regardless if the division is pierced or not. Are you maybe referring to the piercing change that was mentioned in a devblog and supposed to come with NSB but was cancelled?
@casusincorrabilis15842 жыл бұрын
@@Pydgin No, it's about how damage is calculated. If for example with piercing the target you have 2 x the targets defence in attack, the 50 % reduction in your attack would result in the target taking only 20 % of the damage it would take if pierced. I speak of effective damage inflicted. It's a weird mechanic but yeah depending on the ratio between attack and defence it can change between 50% and 80%. 50 % for atk < defence. growing to 80 % until atk = 2 * defence and then declining again until 50 % in infinity... Yeah it's weird but that's how it effectively works.
@mxcokoko10 ай бұрын
light tank recon and light tank flamers with dozer blades are peak meme marines
@PolishPsycho27042 жыл бұрын
I have one question: why that template is called space marines?
@trikmandularlgaming20262 жыл бұрын
warhammer 40000
@2000_bms2 жыл бұрын
In Warhammer 40k, Space Marines are basically Hulk-sized genetically-enhanced super soldiers that wear huge suits of armor basically making them into a human tank. The connection to HOI4 is that Space Marine templates are majority infantry divisions with enough added bonuses from the inclusion of armor that they perform much better on average when fighting a normal infantry template that is equal in all other aspects.
@PolishPsycho27042 жыл бұрын
@@2000_bms thanks
@mr.magnificent32372 жыл бұрын
@@PolishPsycho2704 it's also because they used to contain actual marines instead of infantry before there was a special forces cap. The name just stuck...
@symphony_in_152mm27 ай бұрын
[*spits coffee*] hold the fekking phone, so my "Infantry tank" variant of infantry divisions where I give them a single battalion of heavy tanks with a howitzers is actually a "Space marine" template?
@Squantanamo10 ай бұрын
I'm just imagining hitler calling the british cheaters for using infantry tanks in real life.
@shugokopuffs31975 ай бұрын
Normandy broke before the Guard did!
@pinkbaron360210 ай бұрын
My friends and I used to do this, but with flamethrower HEAVY tanks, and paratroopers. Needless to say that wasnt fun
@buttwheat7 ай бұрын
Fine, armored horse soldiers. Calv with one light tank.
@Pydgin7 ай бұрын
That's when they inform you that cav and tanks is against the rules so you make camel tanks. *taps head*
@kilianfirebolt Жыл бұрын
Space marines are less of a problem since partial piercing is a thing, the biggest 2 mp historical servers are thinking of allowing them
@Cheezymuffin. Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is, thst historically about 70% of a nations tankforce was spread out over the infantry, even Germany had this ratio, altough for the invasion of france they concentrated all of their armor in specialised armored divisions. But later in the war the tanks where spread out. The concentrated armor divisions could punch trough enemy defences, while the armor relegated for infantry gave the infantry an enormous advantage in dealing with enemy infantry and armor.
@warden2794 Жыл бұрын
I heard space marine and i was like: FOR THE EMPEROR
@Seriona18 ай бұрын
I didn't even know this was a thing. Before I learned how to play single player correctly, if I was a nation with okay industry, I would throw light tanks with infantry for break throughs.
@samuellove9619 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this guide, ended up using it in a kaissereich Australasian game with medium SPA and light recon. Ended up inflicting a mil in casualties to Japan while only taking >30k losses, (to be fair at least 200k were from convoy raiding)
@secondlieutenan11 ай бұрын
“Romania can only lend lease to Germany if they say “pwetty pwease”” 💀💀💀💀
@slump2p10 ай бұрын
been making my infantry divisions space marines every time i play ig
@Jaykk022 жыл бұрын
Love video’s without added bullshit. Probs to Pydgin!
@rellikskuppin7417Ай бұрын
Im at almost 300 hours. All co op or single player. What the hell is even any of that? 😂