What Are the 13 Commonwealths of Fallout?

[@GOTOHELL57331]

In Fallout 1 it's actually explained that the mutations of the various creatures are caused by trace amounts of FEV in the air released after the destruction of US military facilities housing samples of the stuff rather than radiation.

[@heavyfrompootis4385]

Is that why I'm more than sub brick intelligent?

[@yosephbuitrago897]

Yeah but this is often disputed with the original creators and between various writers who want the mutations to be due to FEV, those who want the mutations to be due for radiation, and those who want it to be due to a mix of both. It’s not very clear and there’s a lot of conflicting information/sources

[@TheRusty]

Well, as mentioned, the commonwealth System was intended to be a stabilizing layer of governance between the state and federal level, but all it did was add more bureaucratic nonsense and inefficiency to an already-faltering system. With that in mind - and with an understanding that a lot of Fallout's history is satirical or tongue-in-cheek, ideas like a single Californian state being split between two Commonwealths, or West Virginia being part of the Northeast Commonwealth starts to make more sense. It's a perfectly good map of a dysfunctional system.

[@-lollipopsunder-7044]

To be fair California is legit proposing to become two separate states, so.

[@fristnamelastname5549]

In 1941 (Before Pearl Harbor) the Nothern half of California was going to vote, to become the "State of Jefferson" (Named after the 3rd President of the U.S.A Thomas Jefferson.) However, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor on the day of the vote, and it was canceled do to the sudden attack, and the change of attitude by the U.S. Government.

[@dreadedworld8864]

So in the universe without anime there is the state of Jefferson ?

[@MarathonGuy1337]

@@dreadedworld8864 fuck it so we had the state of California and the state of Jefferson in fallout. Wait does that mean the New Republic of California should be named the New Republic of Jefferson?

[@dreadedworld8864]

@@MarathonGuy1337 yes but the anthem would be "I love you Jefferson" and that doesn't really stick as well as "I love you California"

[@MarathonGuy1337]

@@dreadedworld8864 yeah the New Jefferson Republic or NJR don't have the same ring to it as NCR come to think of it

[@ThyRavenWings]

Look up the proposed state of Jefferson. Most of the state power in California comes from the major metropolitan in the south leaving the north subject to the whims of politicians who don't even begin to represent their interests. Splitting the two into different commonwealths makes perfect sense to me

[@drag0n_rage682]

Arkansas triggers me

[@thebrutusmars]

drag0n_rage Me too

[@laundrewashington3734]

drag0n_rage lol why does my state trigger you

[@totallynotjeff7748]

@@laundrewashington3734 its part of texas

[@laundrewashington3734]

@@totallynotjeff7748 ok and......

[@ReformedSooner24]

Personally I’m not sure WHY Texas and Arkansas is one commonwealth. If anything it makes more sense to do Texas, Oklahoma and Arkansas. Tex-Arkana is a small area. You can’t just have those two.

[@vongard94]

Alright. Endscreen music is absolutely unacceptable. Are you trying to deafen me?

[@talongibb7833]

The official Fallout POD was 20 July, 1947, when for whatever reason the extraterrestrials that would've crashlanded at Roswell instead remains observing the world from orbit as it develops throughout the Atomic Age. Because the aliens never crashed, we humans never had the opportunity to discover and reverse-engineer such advanced technological marvels as the transistor, which in Our Earth was developed by Bell Laboratories in November 1947, a mere five months after the Roswell Incident. The rest is history...

[@DinoRicky]

So alien were actually dumb in this timeline and crashed

[@ronniehopper2726]

1958 to be precise it's listed in Fallout 4 an explosion in the lab that created the transistor no transistor no microprocessor no counterculture

[@JaketheMCmaster]

Ronnie Hopper Oof one lab explosion causes nuclear war

[@thatguy4312]

No, not a nuclear war but, the manufaction of all transistor and mircroprocessors crippled the tecnology, there by they got tecnology that sucks. the nuclear war startet in 2077 after a conflict between US and China.

[@ronniehopper2726]

Jake Grande pretty much no transistors no microprocessor no spread of ideas better radio and television technology no Advanced Computers like we have today, dude the smartphone in Fallout wasn't invented until the 2060 it was the Pip-Boy and look how big it is,

[@ronniehopper2726]

Анастасия Асланова pretty much

[@hellboy6507]

I don't like the explanation they gave. Why would an explosion totally wipe out knowledge of transistors? Surely some research would have survived, and somebody would've picked up where it left off. It would make more sense that transistors weren't developed because vacuum tubes in this timeline were simply better, thus transistors never get anywhere.

[@jinjiyoshi5548]

Well we arkansans get mistaken for texans all the time so I'm not mad. At least we're not grouped in the same commonwealth as alabama, Georgia, or Tennessee.

[@bordergore7623]

You include Georgia and Tennessee instead of Mississippi and Louisiana? That’s like saying you wouldn’t want to be in The California, Nevada, Idaho group instead of the California, Oregon, Washington group.

[@ViktoriousDead]

Fuck you

[@wilshire36]

I think in regards to West Virginia You answered your own question. "what exactly is the rich and posh people of New York doing with West Virginia?" Well it would make sense they would take it because they need what little coal they prolly have during a period of so little resources. But hey that's just my take and I'm sure there could be other excuses or reasons.

[@nedisahonkey]

The splitting of California makes percent sense. Obviously the creator isn't from California nor does he know about the bad blood and distinct culture of Nor Cal and So Cal. Northern California has more in common with Oregon and Washington than it does with LA.

[@bordergore7623]

I wouldn’t say that. While Northern Cali is geographically similar to Oregon and Washington it’s culture is far more conserved and rural. It’s more similar to Idaho or Montana socially than the west coast.

[@nedisahonkey]

@@bordergore7623 Rural Northern California maybe. But I was talking about the majority of the population not the majority of area

[@SportsMaps]

4:05 BECAUSE CASCADIA AND ECOTOPIA BRO

[@brandon9172]

AYEEEEEE Fellow Cascadian. How goes it?

[@dangerouslytalented]

The divergence must have happened in the 19th century, with small divergences at first, buildings in the wrong locations, composers composing in a different key, all butterfly effecting to nuclear war in 2077

[@david2869]

"When it's time for the fallout, and St. Peter calls us all out, we'll just drop our agendas and adjourn." -Tom Lerher

[@olliemakesvideos125]

0:54, Massachusetts is it’s own Commonwealth.

[@degenerate3288]

How to trigger a new Englander Make an alternate history map and have a region called New York and put NE in it

[@bordergore7623]

Have you seen Arkansas?

[@emavaz18]

You're getting a headache over California being divided?! California is on the verge of divining itself over the fact that it is a bureaucratic nightmare as a hole already. I should know, I live there.

[@flamesofchaos13]

Good luck with that and fallout is not our politics.

[@ssjwes]

But Fallout predicted your politics

[@flamesofchaos13]

ssjwes How?

[@emavaz18]

Bottom line is, I'm living life imitating art in this bloody state.

[@JAMESMANHUNT9]

so does my uncle

[@docette2015]

I don't know enough about the games to comment, but I like the simplicity of the map you reviewed here. While the "flag overlay" map is pretty, it's also confusing and doesn't define the borders very well. MS Paint fill-in at least lets me see what goes where, even if it doesn't always make sense!

[@johnnygreenface]

There is a huge cultural divide between north and south cali.

[@titan-cb6se]

Oklahoma should be in Texas

[@Fluffybunz779]

Yeah agreed. This map really isn’t very good at all, someone doesn’t know much about the details of geographic and cultural landscapes in the US

[@ronniehopper2726]

Dustin Eyster this was done in the late 60s when America restructured itself to provide an even bigger buffer zone between Russia and China

[@bufordchambers7089]

titanxbox 555 Eastern New Mexico should be as well.

[@visig0th152]

Fuck that, we don't want those tornado jockeys in our state.

[@sanguillotine]

Everything should be Texas

[@tearlach47]

God dang that outro nearly blew my eardrums out!

[@UchronianKing]

After WW2, they focused much more on nuclear fusion technology for civilian and military appliances - so, when cars explode, they emit a small degree of dormant radiation during the blast. Speaking of blasts, please decrease the end music titles, they're MUCH LOUDER than your dialogue settings!

[@SamuraiZero]

The Timeline diverts from ours after world war 2.

[@ROBOHOLIC1]

transistors were invented, the "Transistors were not invented" thing was an unsourced claim posted on the Fallout wiki

[@OmniBedlam]

The "rustic" West Virginia as you say, has an abundance of chemical plants and coal mines to power places like Philly and New York. Not everything was running on nuclear power. West Virginia also served as the closest shelter for continuity of government at the Greenbrier. The terrain also provided a strategic advantage in case of a Chinese invasion.

[@Samthescienceman]

Ooh, somebody improved upon his lighting

[@Abdul54cp]

Alien space bats.

[@Zenas521]

Now, if somebody would find the volume nob and turn it up a bit when talking in the microphone.

[@TheAlternateHistorian]

Yep got a professional level lighting now.

[@TheAlternateHistorian]

Exterior microphone will be my next purchase. For now turn up the volume on whatever you are watching me on.

[@denverbeek]

Am I the first person to think of the following: The multiverse is limited to a single set of laws of physics, math, and logic. e=mc^2 will always be true. a=b, b=c will always imply a=c, etc. Therefore, I propose a new concept of the Multiverse. The multi-multiverse (comment a better name, please)! In one multiverse, 1+1=2. In another, 1+1=3. In another, atoms aren't the building blocks of the universe. Comment if I explained this wrong or if I'm not the first to come up with this idea. Thanks!

[@RSTBKT]

How the hell did Arkansas end up with Texas?

[@flamesofchaos13]

1EPICGAMER 1 I'm Texan and I know right.

[@RSTBKT]

If Texas gets Arkansas then they might just Louisiana too for the heck of it.

[@fristnamelastname5549]

Because, Logic.

[@anwaraisling]

The north versus south split of California May have to do with the modern differences between the two halves, given that the northern half is generally more conservative (and less populous) than the southern half. Ideologically, the southern half would indeed have more in common with Nevada.

[@johnnygreenface]

Flames Of Chaos But there was an act proposed to split the state in 2

[@flamesofchaos13]

The lore in the games were made in the 90's and the proposed split isn't the North/South it's the Coast/County. So the North-West Commonwealth and the South-West Commonwealth has nothing to do with politics.

[@Bacchus1097]

Actually POD is around the late 50s when the transistor wasn't created. Without it digital tech wasn't created and the world went from there

[@Stebens0]

Man I love paradox games

[@TheAlternateHistorian]

Me too. Unfortunately I don't have the time to play them anymore.

[@michaelbrown2300]

Which commonwealth would you live in? I’d move to the plains or north

[@christiebailey1479]

The timeline diverged from our own in 1947 when the super conductor was never invented.

[@faggoteditor9297]

that's just a meme.

[@The503GlobeTrotters]

Some of the groupings are to have similarity in region design. Northern Cali is full of trees and looks quite a bit like Oregon and Washington. So if Bethesda were to make a fallout cascading the region would have a distinct and feel and art style. I'd imagine that's why some of the seemingly arbitrary groupings exist on this map.

[@infocus]

Good stuff. One word of advice...okay, two words: Slow. Down.

[@LauraMakesStuff]

Some of your changes to this map seem nicely in-line with the map from the Crimson Skies universe.

[@IlKRONIXZlI]

Wouldn't the commonwealth only be f4? I hadn't heard it anywhere else

[@witherhoard5333]

Southwest is its own seperate commonwealth because of the New California Repiblic

[@johnnygreenface]

Braeden Tiemann no, That's wrong. It was the jefferson (act?)

[@fuckeveryone3382]

What if we did this, with better borders, not during the cold war, and weakening the federal government at the same time. Sort of like, instead of the commonwealths being a counterweight to the federal government, the federal government is a counterweight to the commonwealths. The federal government would mainly handle inter-commonwealth disputes and commerce, then also trade, foreign policy, and defense. Secession would still be illegal, and the commonwealths wouldn't have a military. I could see that working, don't know about you guys though. Oh and states would still have a great deal of power, and influence in the commonwealths. It would basically be blocs of states, instead of individual states, it wouldn't weaken their authority very much if at all. And would probably strengthen their overall power in the union.

[@fuckeveryone3382]

Cause really, wouldn't the great plains be better off with combined political power, rather then being individual sparsely populated states? And also, this would need to be combined with heavy federal reforms, and reformed political systems for the individual commonwealths. Also we should build a new capital in the center of the country, not including alaska and hawaii in its location at the center of the country, for obvious reasons. No one but politicians, capitol hill staff, and their families, should really be living in the capital in the first place, and even then, most politicians should be in the states they represent most of the time. DC created a huge constitutional hole, that still hasn't been filled. So washington(the city), should be included in maryland, and a new capitol built out west, without the large population surrounding it this time

[@derpmansderpyskin]

what is you're zombie plan?

[@HaloFTW55]

I see a Red Vs Blue reference!

[@user-MidwayDisc]

Theirs a pretty interesting Alternate history game called Resistance: Fall of Man about Aliens invading during WW 2. It's a really fun game.

[@fristnamelastname5549]

The Commanwealths where apart of the Federal Government. They where created too off load the Daily burden from the Federal Government. How ever they mostly turned to infighting, and often where corrupt. But the States where still around, in what I assume in there pre-existing state before the diversion. (But that is what I think)

[@touchingpriests5061]

When south and north California is separate due to the NCR and Caesars legion

[@theadeptuscustodes]

Then there's Texas, still being Texas

[@thebrutusmars]

Fallout: New Orleans please @ Bethesda

[@steelrarebit7387]

If they created a Fallout New Orleans, Bethesda would make it easy for themselves. They would sell a copy of a product and rake in massive profit. They would only move Point Lookout to the south and change quests. I wouldn't want them screwing up New Orleans.

[@SulfurousJesus]

California is fucking huge, and its 7 different states if you choose either demographics or georgraphy. Its a fairly simple one to understand why its split when any 2 parts of the state have very little in common.

[@tmnumber1]

I like your videos but I have trouble understanding you. Try slowing down when you speak. Anyway, keep up the good work.

[@XLjackbot]

HD! Finally.

[@TheAlternateHistorian]

You're welcome. Remember everyone I'm an amateur who does this as a hobby. That said, I would love to do this full time, but I make diddly squat from my vids. Thus upgrades to my tech will be slow in coming.

[@XLjackbot]

Your work is still pretty good so do please keep the good work up. It is appreciated.

[@TheAlternateHistorian]

Thanks.

[@JamarfromAfar]

Actually, The point of divergence was in 1947, when the transistor was supposed to be invented.

[@lorddemonoss3945]

I'm hoping for fallout 5 to either start in Michigan through Canada and later the north pole or Alaska. Returning to post apocalypse California would be awesome!!

[@Samm815]

"Welcome Carolina-Georgia."

[@bordergore7623]

Alphabetic order isn’t always the best order. Especially when it sounds like that out loud.

[@whitefangv]

OMG please do The Hunger Games next!

[@oneofmanyparadoxfans5447]

3:11 Gotta love how the best state in the Four States Commonwealth is represented as the field of the flag.

[@thetrashmaster1352]

Please do the wolfenstein map next. I want to see what happened to Australia. is it Japanese, is it German? I really want to know.

[@serge00storms]

The eastern panhandle of West Virginia would be in Columbia

[@lastwolflord]

Must fans say in the fallout universe the change happened around 1947.

[@hu4lifefuckdeuce]

how can ohio not fit with other rust belt states when it's an alternate timeline with no rust belt?

[@JaxTheCartographer]

Also if California was split north california would take Fresno and Yosemite not zlsputh California because south California is more associated with l.a. and people from Fresno don't associate with l.a. they more associate with the rest of the central valley witch is in northern california.

[@hellboy6507]

Why would the US have any interest in oil when the cars in the games are powered by small nuclear reactors?

[@invincible_and_legendary]

Probably because the US goverment didn't want peace. Remember that Fallout's America was esentially a military junta by 2077

[@deadknight1402]

With that in mind, I would be interested to see your division of the US into 13 commonwealths. Also, in 2051, the US destabilized, and invaded Mexico for their oil reserves, and in 2072, annexed Canada in an effort to secure their supply chains leading into Alaska during the Sino-American War, as in 2066, then China invaded Anchorage Alaska for their oil fields.

[@Buran1494]

Y que paso en otros paises cual es su mapa y como quedaron después de la gran guerra

[@bruhe8895]

There are 12 different Commonwealth's and shit but Texas is just texas, epic.

[@aaronboyko2540]

Why does every youtuber that does history or video game videos always throw some line in about the Republican party? It is annoying for everyone and just loses views instead of gaining more.

[@ssjwes]

Yeah when Im a new viewer to a video and see cheeky shit jokes/serious about politics I just move on.

[@myself2noone]

Well they'll piss off snowflakes like you, but like it or not the Democratic party is the more popular of the two main parties. Especially at media aimed at younger people.

[@grahamkeithtodd]

how about a map of how the UK would have been split up after the nuclear war?..based on the official Home Office maps?

[@johnnygreenface]

Graham Keith Todd it is a crater.

[@grahamkeithtodd]

sadly old son you may very well be right,according to the us,the uk will be only able to carry on as an airbase for about 4-5 months if all hell breaks loose!

[@justcallme-russ3602]

The US also annexed Mexico

[@flamesofchaos13]

Master chipz Not annexed just occupied only Canada was annexed.

[@unitedlunch1609]

I thought it was the pacific commeweth

[@The_Alt_Vault]

The idea behind the split was more to make the states more cooperative by delegating more power to them the consolidating them into 13 commonwealths that being the reason why the us flag only has 13 stars. So basically the stats are under the commonwealths and the commonwealth are under the federal government it's easier to make 13 agree to conquer Mexico and Canada than it is for 50 to agree on this

[@pabloolsiewich7268]

George Smith Simply: USA gone feudal but with democracy.

[@animedudevid]

watched a few of you videos but dear god ever one of this is a shot a republicans..... it gets annoying. But whateves your channel your choice to be annoying.

[@deiansalazar140]

When the GOP denies facts, even historical ones, its his job to set the record straight so I appreciate him calling it out. Good Academic integrity.

[@DogeMcLovin]

@@deiansalazar140 It's all about perspective my friend

[@Fenris77]

If you want to understand Fallout best you should start with the original Fallout games (Ignore that Bethesda crap)

[@gc6096]

One real life fact there were people in Northern California that wanted to split and was gonna vote on it…….then Pearl Harbor happened and was under the radar ever since. One of its proposed state names was Jefferson I believe.

[@jflorez6484]

yeah this map doesn't follow the lore all the whole reason the country was split up into Commonwealth's was because of the annexation of Canada in Fallout New Vegas you can't see a map of the 13 Commonwealth in The Lonesome Road DLC and their split basically latitudinally through Canada and the United States. I played Fallout since Fallout 1and i absolutely love the series but there's a lot of misinformation on the lore of the game because of 12 year old fans posting on Reddit what they believed to be true I am guessing but most importantly because the lore in the series doesn't stay consistent between different developers and games.

[@sgtdornan5211]

FINALLY SOMEBODY MENTIONS OHIO

[@R5d4d2]

TAH, please speak more slowly.

[@christopherellis2663]

Panem map?

[@cupcaketheman7729]

it changed at 1915

[@codydavis8014]

You look like Mallory from heartland

[@MASTERPHINOX]

east central huh

[@hurricanekate6839]

I stopped watching halfway through because I couldn't understand half of what you were saying (and my hearing is excellent). Could you perhaps speak a little more slowly and clearly?

[@TheDrakanMaster124]

You got to love even when the country is falling apart Texas is still Texas

[@ChristopherHowery]

Texas should have been bigger

[@redbluesandmoons7478]

The 13 Commonwealths of America, featuring,MEEEE

[@bryancrabtree4093]

Do you not know that northern and Southern California are politically different than each other? Northern has tried to create their own state several times now.

[@iwillflushthegerbilliadown9966]

the split happneed after ww2 and it was because the world instead of refusing nuclear power, the inbrased it!

[@CherriPicking]

Ohmygod, I *hate* the borders of the Fallout Commonwealths

[@natesgreatshow1634]

incert joke about the democrats here

[@malikreseftenebrous2626]

Right; since the Democrats are selling out our liberty - unless you are illegal immigrants & the radical Gay Lobby (who now are not fighting for Gays, Lesbians & bis as they should but nutter freaks). That being said I am a fan of RINOS or ultra-religious social conservatives - I am a Libertarian.

[@myself2noone]

MalikRešef Tenebrous You're a libertarian? I'm sorry. I hope you get better.

[@malikreseftenebrous2626]

What is wrong with being a Libertarian, it is not a disease. It is a pro-Liberty & pro-free-market ideology, it is better than be a big government Democrat/Republican totalitarian.

[@chapkilla19]

The Ritual Kings that's called anarchy not libritarian nice propoganda though

[@visig0th152]

Libertarianism is a myth. It should be called "Corporate Feudalism".

[@NationstateOfficial]

They didn't glorify the 1950's. They were essentially "stuck" in the era of the 50's because that is when everyone was forced underground due to nuclear fallout. Hence, the 1950's is where the Fallout timeline "left off" before cultural and technological progress was halted.

[@JakeSnake07]

I see kinda what you're saying, but the way you've phrased it made it insanely wrong. They were stuck in the early 60's because of the lack of the transistor, which caused the people of the Fallout universe to continue searching for new ways to use nuclear tech instead of digital tech. Basically, the Atomic Era of our timeline simply never ended. The nuclear fallout is because of, not the cause of, the universe being trapped in the early 60's.

[@skullamic5759]

While that is true its not entierly the lack of the transistor another main reason is becase they where never able to break the fed of the cold war aswell

[@FilthyCasualDavid]

SelfHatred yes he did.

[@johnnygreenface]

That is 100% wrong

[@johnnygreenface]

SelfHatred yes he did. He implied that the reason the world is stuck in the 1950's is because the bombs dropped then.

[@narcossiss2572]

this guy virtually spent 6 minutes saying, absolutely Jack Shit

[@anomaly2990]

.....yaaaawwwwnnnn....

[@jordonbrewer2010]

IRL california is not very settled or universal when it comes to politics. some parts of california are some of the most liberal places in the united states and others have general ideologies in line with any part of the deep south. It makes sense that California would have split into two states. And in fact it wasn't that long ago that a proposed split of the state actually did happen. Actually, it probably happened after the making of this video. But that's besides the point. Although the border is a tad bit weird. That can be explained by a natural movement of people with certain ideologies moving towards one area of california to be with people like them. And that of another ideology moving to a different part. Almost like a reverse diffusion.

[@1Pings]

This is a pre-war map. Here is a post-war map: orig00.deviantart.net/d7e0/f/2015/068/2/5/north_america_fallout_by_beastboss-d6mmhvi.png

[@AntWrig]

Your map is wrong.

[@creepercthulhu591]

love your videos but I must say you are a little hard to understand because of how fast you are speaking.

[@tehhammz]

As far as california there is a baja California that is part of Mexico. So maybe thats the reason california is split into north and northern.

[@BlueBird-wb6kb]

You have two Eyes , Stop reading books and go play single player story based games

[@soundwavegamer2321]

Technology progress in the Fallout Universe stop in 1947 when no one invited the Vacuum tube (which wouldn’t be invited until 2047 a good 100 years after our timeline) then cultural progress stopped in the 50’s

[@AntWrig]

Soundwavegamer wrong.

[@soundwavegamer2321]

Antonio Wright nope when you look the timeline for technology progress did stop in 1947 because when you look a lot of the timeline show it diverged from there and kept diverting from our timeline

[@darthcole4668]

Your liberalism is showing.

[@woutervanderhoff9143]

Darth Cole Your terrible grammar is showing.

[@darthcole4668]

Wouter van der Hoff Hey thanks man. Surprised it took someone a month to notice that.

[@titan-cb6se]

Good hippie joke