Dave , excellent vid and my only comment is manufacturers fail dismally for the Aussie market (small in the global market), however their failures is great for businesses like yours. Im ready to book my LC200 for max increase for wagon to overcome the poor gvm of 3350 which I have already exceeded adding a few accessories building a tourer!
@limitlessadventures76262 жыл бұрын
Still a wealth of knowledge mate well done
@darrindouglas12 жыл бұрын
My van fully loaded was 3.14, so the 180kg gvm upgrade will be sweet as a nut........as I thought.......cheers..
@daveharman52942 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave. Great info extending on the 4x4DNA fb post last week. For the 300kg it should only be 120kg over the 180kg so rear axle should be 2150kg not 2330kg. And now I'm in trouble because I did math outside of work hours... In terms of taking the weight off the van - isn't the towball weight still part of the van weight so saying the total van weight comes down wouldn't be completely accurate, particularly on the lower end of the gvm upgrades. If you have a 3.5t van and 300kg towball weight, doesn't that 300kg count towards the vehicle weight? (Given the 300kg then counts towards the weight taken by the vehicle - the van itself weighs 3.5t in total still, it's just distributed across both van and car axles). You can't exactly chuck a 585kg towball weight on the 4085kg gvm upgrade to that one would definitely reduce the max van weight.
@leoneyates63722 жыл бұрын
Well done but when writing on the white board write with bigger letters so we can see cheers
@jonoj76662 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, nailed it 😎👌
@jadedFk2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video 👌🏻
@aaronmorrissey20392 жыл бұрын
Great video Dave, however I got a little lost at the end, are you saying the larger the gvm upgrade you go the less you can tow.. I’m sure I have completely miss understood? Cheers
@jj8662 жыл бұрын
It’s because your 7t GCM doesn’t change, so if you add 4t to your car then your van can only weigh 3t etc.
@aaronmorrissey20392 жыл бұрын
Right sorry, got it your suggesting you need to add the weight to the car. As your gcm doesn’t change even if the gvm is upgraded. Kind of counter intuitive, is it possible to do a gcm upgrade out of a matter of interest? Cheers
@jj8662 жыл бұрын
@@aaronmorrissey2039 no you can’t with Patrol. Only GVM
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
You are correct, if you consume the weight in your gvm, it needs to be taken off what you tow
@paulgiles5422 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the info across all your vids. Not that I watched them all but getting there. Just wondering, can you recommend somewhere in Newcastle NSW for 180 GVM and also for the ARB compressor install for the rear quarter as you guys do it?
@denisniclair17602 жыл бұрын
Great info explained in Layman's terms which has helped me a lot Dave. Just took possession of new Patrol TI - L and towing a 3500kg van as is, but need to get GVM upgrade. Based in VIC near airport, can you recommend the best place to go to get this done in VIC please. Much appreciated. Denis
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
I think there is only one place in Vic, that’s OnTrack. Otherwise come see us at 4x4 DNA in Adelaide 😏
@mytimber90642 жыл бұрын
Hi Mate. We have been speaking with Sharon at your office and she has given us 2 options for a gvm upgrade. I have watched most of your videos regarding this and am still trying to get my head around the fact the higher the upgrade the lesser amount is achievable when towing? For instance gcm 7000- 585 upgrade - gvm 3400 is only 3015kg. The lotus caravan we have on order has a tare of 3007kg approx what is the best option in my scenario with this y62 s5 ti dilemma I have as it is kitted out with most bells and whistles on 295/70/18 34.3s. Will appreciate some direction before I place an order. Thanks Paul
@tyreynolds46202 жыл бұрын
does on track cover all warranty if Nissan wont? nissan say 3680 is max with that 180kg upgrade, but with the 300kg wont that be over Nissans limits. or will nissan still give warranty with the added after market parts??
@Leighbshorter2 жыл бұрын
In your video you suggest that you can tow a 3.5t van with a stock y62. This assumes that you don’t have any towball down load. The GVM upgrade is to allow you to have a 3.5t car (unhitched) and a 3.5t caravan (unhitched) and the GVM would cover the ~350kg towball down load. Is this correct?
@RobertOgs-ik9hc2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave for great post as i live in Mandurah it is not practical to come to SA for 180 GVM upgrade Do you have a WA agent or someone over here you recommend
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, just have a look at the installer tab on our website 👌
@bradphillips14462 жыл бұрын
Hey, do you know what the series 5 out of the factory is in terms of front and rear actual axle weights? Im sure there is a range.
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
It’s 1650kg front and 2030kg rear 😉
@bradphillips14462 жыл бұрын
@@DASHOffRoad hey sorry i meant at tare where do the weights sit, not the maximum from factory. Ive seen with half a tank of fuel and a tow bar one person already the front is 1500kg front, 1400 rear weights. Sound about right?
@namwens12 жыл бұрын
You touched on pre vs post rego modification (secondary manufacturer). Can you clarify the benefits of going either option?
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
I can’t say I have any experience with the pre rego gvm upgrades. DMW are the ones to talk to about that
@Leighbshorter2 жыл бұрын
Think you can avoid the luxury car tax because the vehicle can carry more than 1000kg and is classed as a commercial vehicle
@rosslovechild42632 жыл бұрын
Do any of the GVM upgrades require a higher weight rating on the tyres to pass engineering?
@jj8662 жыл бұрын
Great video! Roughly how much is it to upgrade to 4085kg GVM?
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
Roughly, $14-15k
@Leighbshorter2 жыл бұрын
Does the $15k include the raslarr rear bar or is that on top?
@iiankirk26612 жыл бұрын
Great information David, so with the 2”lift you did including the rear spring upgrade to my Y62 with your Dash springs would that give me the 180kg gvm upgrade, and if so can you provide the engineering certificate.
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
We need to get the back of your car down to a 2” lift then we can get the engineer in to sign off 😉
@iiankirk26612 жыл бұрын
@@DASHOffRoad no problems will do, having to put the camper trailer weight on there to help since the off-road van is behind schedule.
@weridegiantsmtb2842 жыл бұрын
So how do u get the 4.2 gvm upgrade?
@AussieMatias Жыл бұрын
Hey Dave what is the rear axle limit stock? I keep reading on forums its 2030kg without any mods. And what you are calling your 300kg upgrade is really a 480kg? 300+180 right? As whenever I hear 300kg upgrades, I think a split of 180kg front and 120kg.
@DASHOffRoad Жыл бұрын
Rear axle is indeed limited to 2030 as standard. The video explains how a gvm upgrade is applied
@rthomson71442 жыл бұрын
Gday David,my van is 3.5T unhitched,car is ~3150kg and ball wt 350kg. Would the 180kg give me a bit of breathing space on the car and still satisfy GCM 7T?
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
Not really, you have both a gvm and GCM issue.
@obs27462 жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah
@covo712 жыл бұрын
Is the 300kg on top of the 180AGL so it becomes a 480kg upgrade???
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
Negative
@MEBAD012 жыл бұрын
Hi David What’s the cost for the 180kg upgrade.
@traciesmith74362 жыл бұрын
Can you get the higher GVM upgrade in all states?
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@dylan53242 жыл бұрын
GCM stuff gets confusing quickly
@joannerowe29892 жыл бұрын
Hi David, we are in vic, if we already have installed ontrack 2 inch lift springs (200kg) with airbags fitted can you provide an engineering certificate without bringing car to you for the 180kg gvm upgrade. Can you confirm cost? Or do we need to make a trip to SA to do it. Or any one in vic do it?
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
For us to do it our engineer must site the vehicle, so you would have to bring it to SA.
@wasbruce2 жыл бұрын
@@DASHOffRoad HI David. My question relates to this.. I have the OnTrack lift - front LCA plus rear springs. I'm not sure which springs I ended up with but I'm guessing the 200kg is pretty standard. Likewise at the front I know there are variations to the kit based on weight and again I don't know which was supplied but I'm guessing it would be toward the high end because I had a steel ARB full-hoop bar installed at the time. I understand the lift alone does not give me any certified GVM increase without engineer sign-off, but can you tell me, with these components what is my theoretical GVM increase, i.e. that which this setup could be potentially certified at? My guess is that the OnTrack front LCA gives me +100kg and the 200kg rear springs allow me full rear axle load, so front 1650kg + 100kg, rear 2030kg, total 3780kg for an increase of 280kg. sound reasonable?
@chrissteer37332 жыл бұрын
So no way of upgrading gcm
@DASHOffRoad2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@hanshonstatzky9612 жыл бұрын
Sorry…… my understanding is you can get a GCM upgrade but only if it’s done Pre rego with companies like DWN. I hope I’m right. Cheers