What are the odds that 3 'random' points on a sphere will form an acute triangle?

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Zach Star

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@louisrobitaille5810
@louisrobitaille5810 Жыл бұрын
6:57 "Out of nowhere." If there's one thing I've learned in maths and physics, it's that mathematical constants (not physics ones like c or α, afaik) show up in the most unexpected places… until you realize that most of those "unexpected places" have one thing in common: a circle (or sphere) can easily pop up if you play with the numbers a bit.
@user-zn4pw5nk2v
@user-zn4pw5nk2v Жыл бұрын
A line projected onto a circle without crossing produces a smaller circle going through it's center, the point mapped to r/distance. And as to physics if measuring distances, you eventually will need C or h so even measuring temperature dissipation through material you will get the speed of light somewhere in the calculation, if you try to be more precise a couple of times.
@theidpboi6205
@theidpboi6205 Жыл бұрын
Oh hell yeah a nerdy zach star video! Oh how i have missed these
@nzt29
@nzt29 Жыл бұрын
yessssss
@AnonimityAssured
@AnonimityAssured Жыл бұрын
I discovered, quite a few years ago, that the bisector of the larger of the two non-right-angles in a 1-2-√5 triangle cuts the longer orthogonal side of that triangle at a distance of 1 / φ from the right angle. I'm sure many people had already discovered it, even centuries before me, but it was still satisfying. This problem reminded me of it.
@birdbeakbeardneck3617
@birdbeakbeardneck3617 Жыл бұрын
Whats the inpiration behind your thinking
@AnonimityAssured
@AnonimityAssured Жыл бұрын
@@birdbeakbeardneck3617 A good question. Unfortunately, I don't have a good answer. As I say, I made the discovery a good many years ago, and I have no memory of what led me to it. Of course, it's just one of many possible geometrical constructions of the golden ratio, but it is certainly one of the simplest.
@louishannett356
@louishannett356 Жыл бұрын
You should look at the construction of a pentagon. When you draw the 5-pointed star using the points of the corners of the pentagon the golden ratio shows up for the line segments that form the 5-pointed star. Also, the ratio of the side of the outer pentagon to the inner pentagon of the 5-pointed star is equal to phi squared. Also, the value of sin(54deg)=phi/2. The values of trig functions for angles of 18deg, 36deg, 54 deg and 72deg have phi buried in the expression. Have fun with it.
@hazza2247
@hazza2247 Жыл бұрын
never knew that about the trig functions, pretty cool
@Wargon2013
@Wargon2013 Жыл бұрын
Does Bertrand's paradox play a role here given that the selection method for the 3rd point hasn't been specified further?
@sigurd106
@sigurd106 Жыл бұрын
Selecting random points on a sphere is well defined, and the puzzle is therefore not subject to Bertrand's paradox. Have a good day.
@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn
@MichaelDarrow-tr1mn Жыл бұрын
no, there is a uniform way to choose points on a surface of a sphere
@anshumanagrawal346
@anshumanagrawal346 Жыл бұрын
It is assumed that the distribution is uniform over the surface area
@TrimutiusToo
@TrimutiusToo Жыл бұрын
Because you are randomly selecting a single point rather than a chord, it is fine, paradox is not applicable...
@Matthew_Klepadlo
@Matthew_Klepadlo Жыл бұрын
“Bro, here’s why you’re a fvcking m0ron!” “Now, do you like interesting math puzzles that utilize the golden ratio?” Zach Star in a nutshell lol.
@oddlyspecificmath
@oddlyspecificmath Жыл бұрын
...I recently spent several minutes puzzling out who this _Evler_ person was, carved into MIT's Newton Tower.
@Matthew_Klepadlo
@Matthew_Klepadlo Жыл бұрын
@@oddlyspecificmath …that sounds super cool, buddy.
@johnchessant3012
@johnchessant3012 Жыл бұрын
3:54 Really cool fact! I think you can link this to the 3b1b video on surface area of the sphere, specifically the animation that breaks apart the sphere and rearranges it into a cylinder
@JR13751
@JR13751 Жыл бұрын
You didn't justify why does only green area results in acute triangles.
@Qermaq
@Qermaq Жыл бұрын
Man your math videos are really good. Would love more of these.
@agrajyadav2951
@agrajyadav2951 Жыл бұрын
hell yeah! Another Zach Star video!
@josgibbons6777
@josgibbons6777 Жыл бұрын
Alternatively, use compound angles to write P(theta)=(sqrt(5)/2)sin(theta/2-phi)-1/2 (where the angle phi is an exercise), with maximum (sqrt(5)-1)/2.
@artificercreator
@artificercreator Жыл бұрын
Can you do a tier list of the hardest type of mathematics to learn that have real life applications? OR, or, what about a tier list about the most challenging fields of ingeniering? or mabye something more like, rocket science vs architecture or stuff like that. Thanks for your videos.
@FrostDirt
@FrostDirt Жыл бұрын
Highest level of applied math is generally Partial Differential Equations. They are enormously difficult to solve.
@artificercreator
@artificercreator Жыл бұрын
​@@FrostDirt Thanks for your answer! Jumping into Partial differential equations from 0 is going to be so much fun!
@HollowDog5899
@HollowDog5899 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I forget this guy is a genius
@archangelazrael8090
@archangelazrael8090 Жыл бұрын
I wish Zach is my Math teacher
@ioium299
@ioium299 Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@zayyeyint027
@zayyeyint027 Жыл бұрын
Omg..., I have been waiting for your video:)))
@chowmein5982
@chowmein5982 Жыл бұрын
welcome back, zach
@fardinabrarsafee5796
@fardinabrarsafee5796 Жыл бұрын
Man that's awesome. We can never get enough of these nerdy videos
@helphowdoinputusername3571
@helphowdoinputusername3571 Жыл бұрын
A curiosity I've had for a while is: how would a second time dimension work? Like a second spacial dimension allows us to move along two axes and occupy a higher level of space. It allows us to combine coordinates in axes to occupy different positions in the 2D/3D space. But how would that even work for time? Like would you be able to age in two directions? How would that affect processes that depend on time, or entropy? What would that even mean for measurements such as velocity? Or would time just be measured as the distance from O on the axes? Super weird. I can't even begin to think of what that would mean, unlike with spacial dimensions, for which it's at least possible to intuit some of it based off of flat land observations and comparisons.
@rupen42
@rupen42 Жыл бұрын
Where do you get puzzles like this from?
@_Baku
@_Baku 11 ай бұрын
Would be curious about how this problem changes when the triangle is drawn on the surface of the sphere (using great arcs) instead of inside it.
@jorgeespinal5591
@jorgeespinal5591 Жыл бұрын
Hey Zach, I’ve been interested in Aerospace engineering and I was wondering if you could recommend any specific KZbinrs that give a similar experience as you, like giving their experience through college and such? Thank you so much😁
@nasimajosefi
@nasimajosefi Жыл бұрын
your explanation and animation are surperb, can you telle how you do your animation?
@zachstar
@zachstar Жыл бұрын
Thank you! And Software is called runiter
@nikhildugar_iwnl
@nikhildugar_iwnl Жыл бұрын
Hey im kinda confused if theta 126.9 degrees and the centre is in in green area doesn't that mean that some parts of green are red area as the triangle won't be acute?
@MrConverse
@MrConverse Жыл бұрын
6:44, outstanding video, but you said ‘odds’ when you meant probability. It’s in the title too. Odds is the ratio of winners to losers. Probability is the ration of winners to the total. Hope it helps!
@triplez5393
@triplez5393 Жыл бұрын
Golden ratio is the fabric of the universe beyond metaphysics
@netzaltali
@netzaltali Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I forget this is a math channel and I always think you are gonna butt in with a goofy punchline
@nevenazMadwrld
@nevenazMadwrld Жыл бұрын
more discussion of the golden ratio and speculation about how it is fundamentally related to this problem would have been interesting to add, give another 2-3 mins to the video
@agrajyadav2951
@agrajyadav2951 Жыл бұрын
Chef's kiss Phi and pi are two sneaky bois
@hatredlord
@hatredlord Жыл бұрын
Just for the record: is this angles of a 3D triangle, i.e. tunneling through the sphere? Or non-euclidean triangles along the surface of the sphere?
@AlexE5250
@AlexE5250 Жыл бұрын
It’s the triangle on the plane of the three points. Tunneled through the sphere, not on the surface
@hatredlord
@hatredlord Жыл бұрын
@@AlexE5250 cool, thanks.
@cycklist
@cycklist Жыл бұрын
So why do many video titles start with an unnecessary 'so' at the moment?
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394
@reidflemingworldstoughestm1394 Жыл бұрын
Arctan? Yes.
@godfreypigott
@godfreypigott Жыл бұрын
How is the 3rd point chosen 'randomly'? If it was chosen by picking from uniform distributions of latitudes and longitudes then this would not work.
@brandonmaldonado7008
@brandonmaldonado7008 Жыл бұрын
Can you make videos on these topics. Architecture Systems engineering Biotechnology Quantum Computing/Engineering
@GuagoFruit
@GuagoFruit Жыл бұрын
I watch these videos without really taking anything in to feel smarter about myself.
@AzeddineHamich
@AzeddineHamich Жыл бұрын
👌
@RespecterAlexander
@RespecterAlexander Жыл бұрын
👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
@stevenpike7857
@stevenpike7857 Жыл бұрын
Hey Zach, I was curious about your opinion. I would think that the laws of probability are independent of time. If this were the case, then if you could time travel you could never get back to your future. For example, if you traveled 10 years back in time and then traveled back to your future, all the events based on probability would be "re-rolled". Another example is say you memorized the lottery numbers that won in last weeks lottery and then traveled back in time. The odds of winning this particular lottery is, say, 1 in 350 million. Since the balls "have no memory" it would still be 1 in 350 million chance that those numbers would come up. There's no guarantee that those numbers would come up again. I don't know, it's just something I thought about, what do you think?
@A_Stereotypical_Guy
@A_Stereotypical_Guy Жыл бұрын
Because it shows up everywhere? Lol
@mrxylophonegaming4249
@mrxylophonegaming4249 Жыл бұрын
Burgundy
@leventaksakal5
@leventaksakal5 Жыл бұрын
U have to make a sketch like "If god was an engineer." where an atheist and god have a conversation in afterlife
@mdashrafulahmed2820
@mdashrafulahmed2820 Жыл бұрын
real
@johnniesalomon1942
@johnniesalomon1942 Жыл бұрын
I read the title seven times... Tried to understand the joke or gag, but then I realized... Lol
@farrankhawaja9856
@farrankhawaja9856 Жыл бұрын
What?!
@carnap355
@carnap355 Жыл бұрын
I don't get it shouldn't you just put those points as close to each other as possible
@AzureFlash
@AzureFlash Жыл бұрын
I picked a random video, it was Zach Star, he's a cute so I win
@no_name4796
@no_name4796 Жыл бұрын
0:23 yeah the triangle is very cute I WIN!!!
@alexbanks9510
@alexbanks9510 Жыл бұрын
I'm not happy with the explanation from 3:05 onwards. You can't just say "these bits aren't red so they're green". I have no confidence that ALL the points in that section are valid
@duongquocthongho2117
@duongquocthongho2117 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@anhthiensaigon
@anhthiensaigon Жыл бұрын
tbf I find at that point it's pretty straightforward already and is okay to omit the rigor. Just for quick visualization: imagine we have determined 3 points. Then through these 3 points we can define a plane that cut the sphere at a circle. If the 3rd point lies in the red area, it's quite easy to see that on the circle intersection, *all 3 points lie on one side relative to a diameter of that circle* . That results in that one angle has to be >90°. Nevertheless I agree Zach skipped this part too fast, probably since he can't afford to make a longer vid.
@hazza2247
@hazza2247 Жыл бұрын
he explained that no matter where on the sphere u place a point in that green area, it will always be acute, i don’t know what u mean by ‘have no confidence’ when he literally showed that it’s always acute in the green
@duongquocthongho2117
@duongquocthongho2117 Жыл бұрын
@@hazza2247 he in fact did not explain why
@hazza2247
@hazza2247 Жыл бұрын
@@duongquocthongho2117 he did he showed that in that green area any third point will make an acute triangle
@JosaxJaz
@JosaxJaz Жыл бұрын
The people in these comments are far smarter than me holy
@ultrainstinctgokuhope7442
@ultrainstinctgokuhope7442 Жыл бұрын
So your saying I can unlock tusk 4, got it
@rhashydramos7927
@rhashydramos7927 Жыл бұрын
Can I use this to defeat the United States president?
@MichaelZankel
@MichaelZankel Жыл бұрын
5:10 I disagree, it should be written as: 4pi*r*z- pi*R2d2 I cannot believe you didn’t write it that way, very disappointing.
@doim1676
@doim1676 Жыл бұрын
You do make interesting videos, but i find it hard to stay focused because of the many little pauses you make while speaking. Some of them may be a good thing, but for me it's too many. Just a suggestion for improving, but maybe it's just a me thing and the way you record you videos is fine 🤷
@FrederickCorkery
@FrederickCorkery Жыл бұрын
"promosm"
@Ulnvtcydr
@Ulnvtcydr Жыл бұрын
Boring.
@TeenGameProgrammer
@TeenGameProgrammer Жыл бұрын
Just like this comment 😂
@aryanjoshi3342
@aryanjoshi3342 Жыл бұрын
Then why are you here?
@godfreypigott
@godfreypigott Жыл бұрын
Hi Boring, how's it going?
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