What Are These Companies Hiding? - Rabbit R1 / Humane AI Pin

[@mkbhd]

I got to play with the rabbit r1 recently and I have a lot of thoughts …

[@Dave2D]

PLZ SHARE

[@_Makanko_]

First impressions coming soon?

[@SimoBenziane]

sure you do

[@MakerManX]

👀

[@LE_SSERAFIM]

Wow !!

[@KarlRock]

It just seems like a voice assistant. Which we already have on our phones. And which I don’t use anyway.

[@BrajBliss]

This. True.

[@captaincaption]

very true

[@MobikSaysStuff]

You don't use it because it sucks and it's useless. I have a google assistant in my home and all I use it for is setting alarms. If this does as advertised (unlikely) then many will definitely use it.

[@BrajBliss]

@@MobikSaysStuff He said "we already have" and "I don't use".

[@MobikSaysStuff]

@@BrajBliss?

[@ErikCarlosToren]

With the reviews coming coming for the Pin. 4 weeks later. This video has actually aged well. A lot of his critiques came true.

[@MatthewHall-w7y]

Yep he called it, was thinking the same thing. Great video Dave!

[@stormctry]

twitter when they see mkbhd review: 😠😡

[@chocomilkfps1264]

It’s literally a phone with less functionality and more steps… doesn’t really solve any problems and basically is all marketing and no substance

[@BigTylt]

Which means venture capitalists tripped over each other rushing to fund them, no doubt

[@justfasial01]

That's what I thought when they were first pushing it. No one wants to carry 2 devices, there's no special hardware in these devices. It could be done with an app, your phone has all the hardware and is actually much faster. No wonder they cut those promo vids cuz they're prob using very inexpensive SOCs.

[@evank8459]

If the audio input frontier advances significantly, then the cheapest phones can get even cheaper. That's the best case scenario here I can think of

[@nocopyrightgameplaystockvi231]

Million times agree with you

[@onemorechris]

i wonder if all this stuff is simply because phones are kind of boring and AR glasses are a long way off so people I like well we can’t make a phone, but we can make a thing that could exist now and be relevant before AR glasses appear’

[@brandonster]

this is the type of skepticism we need in the tech community. it's crazy how far marketing alone can go when it comes to stuff like this.

[@greenaum]

This is the bare minimum of "journalism". Most sites just read out the press release, sometimes almost cut-n-pasting it into a text article. That includes newspapers and news TV. The bare minimum is actually really great compared to what we have now. You wouldn't get a Watergate exposure now unless Nixon had tweeted out "snt burglarz to rob dem files lol! (some kind of smiley face of dude in mask and woolly hat)" to the public. In fact reporting Twitter isn't news at all! If I wanted to know what people were twatting, I'd join sodding Twitter. That's a deliberate decision I deliberately didn't do.

[@rayaanalam3911]

Hey Guys Actually From seeing there reviews of the Rabbit, Humane and Rewind Me and some of my friends have built something which is trying to replace these Tech companies who are 90% Dependent on Design and charging laughable amounts So if anyone is intrested in our product Please do Connect with me Here I would love To take feedback and Share My solution with the people

[@anderssorenson9998]

I've been bombard with adverts for this shitty non phone for months, I don't know how much pre-order money or VC thay have, but they really are pushing hard to hook as many rubes to put their money down before they realize they bought a worse version of the thing that's on their phone that they never use.

[@DashzRight]

No, this community is super technical, engineer wannabes love gimmicks and useless flashy crap that even themselves call “the future”.

[@StoicJ]

The marketing is just for tech-dumb venture capital investors to throw money at a project they couldn't possibly understand. They throw money at all of these projects because if even one of them takes off or gets purchased by a larger company, it covers the losses on all the others. Then tech-bro influencers and people with super disposable incomes purchase them as a novelty or to see what they do because throwing away $700 is basically just the days entertainment fee.

[@Nurr0]

The Humane pin projector clearly has a fixed focal length so you have to hold your hand in one really specific area to use it, which seems way less comfortable than a phone which you can hold wherever, or even put down and still look at... Haven't seen that addressed anywhere.

[@Mutantcy1992]

That's insane

[@IkeFoxbrush]

Mrwhosetheboss addressed this issue, and many others in his recent video. He even had the CEO of Humane demonstrate and test the device with him. Kudos to him for giving an honest, fair, but eventually unfavorable review of the device.

[@ohredhk]

The lady from Engadget pointed out another problem that no one mentioned. She has smaller hands than most of her counterpart. She has problem just to see the complete "screen" and clearly there is no fix for that.

[@Morphomerle]

Good point

[@Daveforever]

nobody will ever use that garbage anyways... so this is all pointless talk

[@kada0420]

Costing $700, they have the gall to charge for a subscription, putting Adobe on the run for their money.

[@migueltoledo1884]

From companies that are neither well-known or established to have released products worth the investment (that is it - NOT a subscription). It’s actually insulting. Quite frankly, no one needs this. They are better off with a smartphone. Apple, Microsoft, and Google are making massive strides in the AI space.

[@0danye0]

wtf, a subscription for a portable "Alexa where can i buy a coffee "??? seriously...? ridiculous

[@John-wx6wj]

It's the most humane thing to do.

[@langtonmwanza6689]

Atleast Adobe products do something 😂

[@TriggerHappyRC1]

The founders of Humane AI both worked at Apple. That should explain everything there is to know about the pricing.

[@galloe]

They're selling powdered water in packets that say "Just Add Water"

[@rickythethird]

hmm how so explain more pls

[@patrickcarpenter6258]

Real

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

It's not powdered water and it's not called that either. It's essentially a salts supplement. When you sweat you lose more than just water so on very hot days if you just keep drinking water you're not going to feel like your thirst is going down and you'll keep drinking more and more. In longer stretches this can even be dangerous. This is essentially the reason lemonade is a thing in hot weather as it'll have salt. Same reason Gatorade is a thing. Those packets are essentially Gatorade but without the sugar. Thank you for coming to my Ted talk

[@afd1040]

@@rickythethird you need your phone for these things to work while they claim these to be the future of computing

[@rickythethird]

well, not neseccerly, cant you just ask it a question? and go from there? the catch to this device is that it has no keyboard@@afd1040

[@adawg3032]

lol now that these products are actually being handled and reviewed, this video aged like a fine wine. So many points made came true.

[@Alluvian567]

Letting AI spend your money or access any banking information is insanity right now.

[@useless_name]

Will always be that if you think about it

[@JamesYale1977]

Weird part is it could probably never remember the 16 digit number or the password correctly...

[@Alluvian567]

Kind of, but I trust several humans with my bank account information, and one day I think AI may be there. Probably not in my lifetime, but maybe one day.@@useless_name

[@RedCnMn]

Well I rather have an AI / program that sees my banking information than mark zuckerberg or elon musk… In the end it doesn’t do anything without your command. So chill with the „tinfoil hat“-comments 😅

[@NostalgiaHDOS]

@@RedCnMnElon musk isn’t as big of a threat as you believe. He gets more hate than he deserves.

[@ByteReview]

the thing that gets me most is you have to hold up your hand for the humane AI pin laser, it's even the same hand position as a phone!

[@alex_ob1]

Or a smartwatch....

[@mathanielpreston]

It could have been a smartwatch with generative AI

[@wootboop666]

@@mathanielpreston Should! It should've been!

[@BrialMusic]

Also youre fked if it's sunny outside 😂

[@hassan_codes]

Yes, and they want you to pay a monthly subscription for that. I'd rather carry around a Google Home mini

[@latrace1986]

I haven't seen a video of yours in a while, but this popped up in my recommended, so I decided to check it out. I've always been impressed with your attention to detail, but it looks like you've really fully developed and grown into your own vibe/style/aesthetic, and I appreciate that you're doing the work of a proper journalist by holding these companies accountable and asking questions about things that consumers need to know in an industry that is notoriously anti-consumer.

[@austinevans]

Glad you made this video. I've been thinking along the same lines for a few weeks now...sure, there's potential with these things but the version 1.0 that they've shown is so clearly years away from being remotely good.

[@simranpreetsingh4132]

Yup

[@TrangleC]

I don't understand, I have to admit. Seems to me even if this thing would be capable of everything they promised and more, it would still be inferior to a phone. Then again, I also never understood the appeal of smart watches. For me the era of wearing a wrist watch ended when I started carrying a phone around with me everywhere and I was a late adopter of cellphones back in the year 2000 or 2001 or so.

[@DavidEmil_]

hey guys, this is Austin!

[@voice5sur5]

I see no potential. Not every gimmick has a place to exist.

[@taminazo3481]

How can you say that when you haven't even used it, though? A lot of the points in this video are pretty misinformed

[@weezintrumpeteer]

The Humane AI pin demo that is shown a few times in this video freaks me out. It's like the founders are robots and don't look any bit excited about what they've created. It's a really weird vibe.

[@AryaStarky]

He straight up looks like a supervillain and can’t wait to cash out.

[@OGkush69x]

Thought it was only me💀

[@LOLBTLOLBT]

it's just a straight up scam call level scam

[@druskkyyy]

@@OGkush69xq1

[@madcoda]

not weird, just scam

[@geraldslonaker3289]

I agree with your points at around 6:00. I think we already have an example of how relying on voice commands only as a way of interacting with a device to get things done with the in-home smart devices didn't quite work out the way the big tech company thought. People experience voice communication fatigue pretty quick when they have to talk to the device all the time to do things for them. I think they will experience the same issue

[@josuad6890]

I tried running my smartwatch in a similar fashion, using voice commands. It quickly became apparent that it was not a good idea. Everything feels slow, the fact that I have to speak things out loud became awkward really fast, and the output just takes forever to be read. Not to mention that everyone can hear the input and output, it's a privacy nightmare. So yeah, I honestly don't think that this is a good idea. It may serve a really niche market, but definitely isn't for everyone.

[@SIPEROTH]

That is the thing I always wonder why they don't get. Even if this devices work amazingly better than what any of us expected we always end up in this one question. Do people really prefer giving voice commands instead of just pressing buttons whether real or virtual? The answer is always No. People get tired of voice commands. They prefer just touching or clicking things. I guess if you have movability issues this tech might help you but people with such disabilities aren't exactly a big market.

[@QnjtGWonQNqVsbYyzjx4]

@@SIPEROTHPeople are willing to do it, but only things that can be said in a sentence and isn’t sensitive to them

[@lawrencefrost9063]

Yeah I was just using it in the train to work. I said : Siri, play "Wet Witches' Booty Bloopers - Vol. 69" And for whatever reason everyone was looking at me funny...go figure.

[@chiranchauhan9436]

No one would enjoy using such a device outright & we are pretty much wired. This product would only make sense when ecosystem in the surrounding changes. The very point of designing such a device could probably be detach from the information loading on a mobile device. Imagine not being bothered after office hours because of the hardware limitations. The device would be able to do very specific set of tasks & at large detach you from the 6inch world. On such a hardware and input method it would be painful to stick to that digital space. The company has poorly used examples shouting features which are very much appealing to techies (that fails successfully) and not catering to deeply engraved drawbacks of lot of unwanted informations (says ads or notification bombardments). I could be wrong though XD

[@chiranchauhan9436]

The company has poorly used examples shouting features which are very much appealing to techies (that fails successfully) and not catering to deeply engraved drawbacks of lot of unwanted informations (says ads or notification bombardments). I could be wrong though XD

[@BoogeyBryan13]

They're hiding that right now, in the early stages their primary function as a company is data collection. With data from the senors and usage they get from their users it helps feed their LAM.

[@persquad8998]

For a useless product. We have Google assistant and Siri, this literally solves nothing and is doomed to fail, as it should.

[@socks7545]

@@persquad8998some companies probably want their own data without purchasing massive sets of it, this would be one way to do it

[@Arcanineisthebest]

Nah, all the data they could want from you is abvailable through your phone, and a few companies have the monopoly on that side of the business. You can't just walk in. Unless you're really designing your life around not giving away your data, which is a very specific lifestyle, they'll get your profile one way or another.

[@FUKYFILM]

The other thing they can do is to do nothing. Is it better? To not have any new ideas and products?

[@abilashbalakrishnan]

Exactly my thoughts! I was wondering why no KZbinrs were talking about this. Thanks Dave

[@ZZ-qy5mv]

I loved that they used asking about the totaly eclipse as an example. I'm actually going to try to go see it. This absolutely required me to look at a map to see what my options are and research different flights and driving directions. Their answer was completely usesless if you were to actually plan a trip.

[@atticmuse3749]

Not to mention when they originally released the video the answer it gave was wrong, saying the best place to view the eclipse was in Australia.

[@Kumal94]

And you can do the same thing on your phone, too.

[@snazzy]

The CEO of Rabbit is even on the board of directors for Teenage Engineering. Official collab, it certainly is! Otherwise, awesome video and 100% agree on everything.

[@greenaum]

I'd be kind of embarassed to call my company that once I'm in my 30s or 40s. There's just little "teenage" about some old engineer dude. Japanese-style minimalist design isn't something teenagers spend a lot of time worrying about. And nobody under 40 even knows what a Game And Watch is!

[@ChaossX77]

How does that make it an official collab? If it was it would be called the rabbit x teenage engineering. Being designed by them doesn't make it a collab. Otherwise good comment.

[@loflog]

@@greenaumvictoria's secret is owned by some old dude?

[@atiedebee1020]

​@@greenaumgame and watch is obviously a character from smash brothers

[@dealloc]

@@ChaossX77 They designed it with Rabbit. That is the literal definition of collaboration (i.e. working together).

[@Josh-Tech-Reviews]

THANK YOU for being honest. Plus, dude, your camera demeanour is authentic and peaceful, so unique! Thanks

[@MikeThePianoPlayer]

Not to mention that in its original reveal video, the Humane pin got part of the eclipse question wrong (it gave the right date but said Australia/Oceania was the ideal area to see it when in reality it was North America) and many have said the device’s protein estimate for a handful of -walnuts- almonds was way off. I don’t think AIs are anywhere near consistent enough to plan a trip on its own or really for most of the supposed benefits both of these companies are pitching.

[@rondobrondo]

those were not walnuts, they were almonds

[@GreatTaiwan]

what's going on here is that they use OpenAI GPT-4 or probably Cluade2 then they hook it to API calls and called hey it's not LLM it's LAM basically the LLM gives answer and the answer with simple switch/if-condifiton is calling and API this is not a model entirely I bet they didn't even train their own model (maybe brought something from HuggingFace but that won't come near GPT-4 level and it will be really disappointing )

[@rayaanalam3911]

Hey Guys Actually From seeing there reviews of the Rabbit, Humane and Rewind Me and some of my friends have built something which is trying to replace these Tech companies who are 90% Dependent on Design and charging laughable amounts So if anyone is intrested in our product Please do Connect with me Here I would love To take feedback and Share My solution with the people

[@LoFiAxolotl]

the problem with AIs right now is... that AIs need billions and billions and billions and trillions of datasets that are "good".... what we call AI right now are basically just scrapers that "memorize" the data they have scraped and formulate it for us... be it visual or in text... they can't think or make decisions... there's no intelligence in there... it's just automation... basically really advanced Macros... an AI sure could book/plan you a trip... but it's not a decision it made but just data it's taken from other trips that were booked before and book those with your credit card (very simplified explanation)

[@Robersora]

to me it's endlessly weird that they didn't fact check that before releasing it

[@MartinAaberge]

I tried an AI itinerary website for fun and asked it to line up a five day trip in my hometown. It A) listed Maemo (Michelin restaurant where a meal is $350) for lunch and wanted to send me on a one day trip across the country to see a sight over there. The travel time alone is 16 hours. To allow AI to book a full vacation or have access to my wallet is straight up suicide. Also… these things feels like someone were able go gather a lot of capital by throwing AI left and right. Feels like NFT scams in physical forms. From a design perspective, these things don’t solve anything.

[@sparkycorkers1196]

I was thinking what kind of nightmare holiday AI might book for you. Europe is a big place. Imagine getting your flights and ending up in a Premier Inn in Milton Keans!

[@WhooNiki]

Some KZbinrs might get a fun video out of it hahaha that's all that this seems of right now! There is no way I'd let that thing plan my precious and rare time for vacation

[@DanMortenson]

Maybe you need to watch the r1 video where the guy has it set up a visit to England. The unit comes up with ridiculous items on the schedule, BUT THEN the user explains his needs, and the schedule is revisited and altered. Humbly might I suggest that THAT method is far and away better than the one you try to sell here, where the user would supposedly blindly go where the phone says...

[@mysterystation3551]

just came back from the MKBHD review on the humane pin, and you gotta hand it it to him, Dave predicted down to the detail what MKBHD confirmed in the review. Hats off to the expertise and research that goes into this channel's content

[@onemorechris]

the humane people seem really serious, all the marketing has the same tone as someone selling coffins

[@DailyCorvid]

It's a similar prospect, coffins are full of dead meat whereas these devices are full of dead circuitry,

[@rayaanalam3911]

Hey Guys Actually From seeing there reviews of the Rabbit, Humane and Rewind Me and some of my friends have built something which is trying to replace these Tech companies who are 90% Dependent on Design and charging laughable amounts So if anyone is intrested in our product Please do Connect with me Here I would love To take feedback and Share My solution with the people

[@LoFiAxolotl]

Coffins are more useful if you already own a phone... they really can't do anything that even Bixby can't do... and that's Bixby

[@sloppynyuszi]

If they were any livelier, a funeral would break out 😂

[@onemorechris]

@@sloppynyuszi hahahaahaha

[@hacob2004]

These things are so obviously a scam that could only exist in the age of cheap venture capital money. Both will be out of business in under two years. Also, watch the demo vid where Sam shows how you have to unlock the Humane device using the projector. It's extremely tedious and laughably insecure.

[@JaceKeller]

Agreed. And everything they showed and demoed are super wack. And that's them showing the BEST of what the device can do.

[@AllanFarrell]

Who books a holiday by just saying a few words to a voice assistant? Nobody, that's who. These things are pie in the sky stuff. Nobody wants another rectangle in their pockets either.

[@HoNow222]

EXACTLY. I am stunned that dave is the first of the big youtubers to say this. All of the rest just survive on pure hype and scams apparently.

[@gabrielmoro3d]

They are gonna go broke with iOS 18 in a few months…

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

It's not a scam, assuming they do what they say they do. Just because a product is dumb, doesn't mean its a scam.

[@CWINDOWSsystem32]

9:45 This is something I think of every time I see a transparent display or projection in sci-fi. Nobody would actually want to use something like that in real life since nothing beats a real, unobstructed display in terms of usability.

[@OGkush69x]

The humane sales guy face when he asked when is the next eclipse 💀 as if hey siri or hey google cant already answer that

[@masror_ah]

I mean for God's sake siri has been doing this for more than a decade now.

[@thejimu]

I can Google it faster than that thing answered him 💀

[@evevlogsx]

The idea of these devices are exactly to get away from Apple and Google. Not everyone wants to deal with big tech anymore. If these devices manage to somehow pull it off, or at least start a trend of non-Apple and Google-based AI devices, it would provide a third alternative for people who want to get away from Apple and Google. I know that's part of the sales pitch for Rabbit, not sure about the Humane device. The problem I think will be security.

[@sol_in.victus]

@@evevlogsx Ah yes i wanna get away from big tech so I'll get another gadget that completely relies on cloud computing and sends everything you do to some random start up 💀

[@evevlogsx]

@@sol_in.victus When I first started on Google, it was a random startup ... yet, here we are. Everything starts somewhere

[@GabrieleNunnari]

This product reminds me of an 'Electric Ice Scraper' for the car, it required the person to still move the hand along the entire glass, without even having any sort of extension. It is a product that is looking to be a solution for a problem that does not exist. Just because they collected money from investors. It will miserably fail. Also voice does not work in crowded environment, those toys become useless in public.

[@jeffrey1025]

It depends on what you mean by failure... The executives I'm sure have already made sure to get their cut of any potential revenue.

[@jakubknotek4891]

As a person who got the electronic ice scraper I can say it's a gimmick but it can save some effort. But you're basically right

[@chatboss000]

...just gonna say peoplr have been using phones in crowded and noisy environments for decades, the directional mic is already solved.

[@orcusdei]

I like the stupid takes from people who don't understand it. For me, the problem very much exist. I fucking hate googling shit and putting all the information together just to plan anything or get a simple answer on a simple issue like "what is the best restaurant with a seafood, that would be great for a date in that certain town". With AI, this issue is solved in seconds. With Google, it takes 2 hours. So yeah, for me, it really solves many problems, cause daily I spend a lot of time actually googling and researching shit, when asking simple question and getting simple answer is what I am really looking for.

[@GabrieleNunnari]

@@orcusdei you can use gemini or chat gpt from the phone, no need for this device to achieve the result.

[@mondlit]

This could easily be your best video this year

[@emmanuelrodriguez1043]

The rabbit r1 hardware should’ve been a portable camera and MP3/MP4 player with a good speaker and work as a power bank. Main focus, Camera and Sound. Idk just a thought.

[@seansillah2703]

Excuse me sir....Stop cooking this hard in the comments

[@MaxwellJordanCallanan]

legit that's what I thought it was when I first saw images of it. Was so mad when I read what it actually was

[@jensenraylight8011]

Rabbit r1 should use their screen to Show Ads to Passerby without their consent, and Humane AI Pin should Blast those lasers filled with Ads directly into Passerby Retina without their consent There you go, now give me $25 Billion for my Capitalistic ideas

[@them2545]

@@jensenraylight8011if the rabbit R1 does not whisper advertising slogans to me in my sleep I don’t want it

[@medivalone]

A battery bank that had a phone camera built in and a small screen would be awesome

[@carte3527]

"I mean, if you are wearing a rabbit on your chest, the least you should worry about is someone hiding something from you." - Buggs Bunny

[@AshrafMMA]

😂😂

[@shashanksam]

didn't get you

[@shashanksam]

like not hiding because they will be speaking it loud each action?

[@Gaius_Julius_Caesar_Augustus]

​@@shashanksam google buggs bunny

[@shashanksam]

@@Gaius_Julius_Caesar_Augustus next?

[@tanyabodrova9947]

Intelligent analysis and, best of all, no annoying elevator music in the background all the time.

[@BrinkWeb]

I remember 10 years ago seeing these laser projected keyboard demos for portable typing. Never saw anyone use them.

[@wildalentejo]

I bought one like 5/6 years ago, used it once or twice, its almost new with box and everything.

[@pebayou.3380]

😂 Gave mine to my niece , used a few times.

[@eduardofernandez4011]

I remember Thinkgeek used to promote and sell one around 2006. I thought they were so cool, lol.

[@LoFiAxolotl]

there's a reason people buy mechanical keyboards... the pyhsical response of the keys isn't just satisfying... but also a confirmation that you clicked something.... imagine hammering your fingers on a table and hoping something comes out and having no physical reaction to what you're doing.... they're terrible

[@daru25able]

It’s not just them, ceo of nvidia is telling the world that ‘kids should stop learn to programme because we now have computers that can programme themselves’, so what do you expect from companies like these? Thanks for bringing this up Dave

[@user-uw7cr4os4r]

Even when computers can program themselves, I'm not getting on a plane whose software was written by AI. I'm not using a bank driven by AI. I'm not buying pharmaceuticals developed by AI.

[@lynnwilliam]

Correct. Programming is not just about code. You need to know computer science and OS theory etc. probably around 50 subjects along with programming. It makes the Nvidia CEO look like he has no idea what a programmer actually does

[@daru25able]

​@@lynnwilliam I think he knows or may be not but you have to see the intent behind, they would sell the world for their company to be profitable, dependence on AI means selling more GPUs hence the kids should stop learning to program

[@Shreyas-S]

Jensen is so disconnected from reality

[@sepmercury5180]

@@user-uw7cr4os4r best response! I am with ya!

[@svenf1]

I have ordered two Rabbit as I'm way too curious to resist, but I'm certainly skeptical as well. My main concern is privacy, which one can have easily on a screen, but not by talking to a device. I do, however, see potential in the realm of accessibility for disabled people - my sister has MS, and I think something like the rabbit would make everyday information-related tasks easier than a phone. I guess I'll see how it works out. I'm looking forward to trying it out.

[@Max_filmatic_music]

Your right that is the best application for these devices accesability for the disabled.

[@LibreGlider]

They're straight-up making API calls. If they had the models, they would show it off and show how adaptive it was. All API's

[@ClearGalaxies]

APIs, as in, they are using someone else's tech? Just want to understand what you mean

[@LibreGlider]

@@ClearGalaxiesFaking the actions of an AI. All of the changes they showed with the image manipulation all have API calls within the application. If you want to demo your AI, this is one of the first ways to do it. Having an AI that's indistinguishable from an API call isn't a good look for your AI. An API is a way to interact with a program via another program. AI's make decisions based on a set of parameters. This wasn't a good way of showing how AI interprets its environment and makes decisions.

[@the__man]

@@LibreGliderAI, chatGPT, is just API calls, mr 101 genius

[@itsjustthewaythingsR]

​@@LibreGlider Are you a developer, a programmer.perhaps?

[@LibreGlider]

@@itsjustthewaythingsRIn the past, yes. Though my current job title is a Site Reliability Engineer, it still involves writing a lot of code.

[@ATLsF1N3ST91]

These devices are 6-10 iterations away from mattering.

[@wilhelm.reeves]

Imagine after 6-10 iterations they end up looking like normal phones lol

[@evank8459]

@@wilhelm.reeves Either normal phones, or get swallowed by 5g watches, for leaving your phone behind

[@anthonytitone]

No, phones r 1-2 iterations away from killing this useless product line lol

[@ATLsF1N3ST91]

@anthonytitone No they aren't. A dedicated AI tool, would have much more use than anything a phone company would even want to put in, because it's so heavy on a processor. Neither Apple, Microsoft, Samsung would push the R&D necessary to develope this level AI software for a cell phone. They'd either have to charge users $20/month to make it worthwhile or make the phone itself $200-$500 more expensive. It's just not worth it. The upside isn't there. Phones are for the masses, that's why niche stuff like professional cameras on Sony phones don't SELL phones. People who want that, get them though.

[@jire9831]

@@ATLsF1N3ST91 All these companies already have some cloud subscription. They just have to add AI to that and maybe bump up the price. Both apple and qualcomm are already putting in accelerators for AI in their SoCs. If the demand is there, phones will definitely integrate this.

[@SustainaBIT]

It is a rare thing to have someone being realistic and having a real talk about something very optimistic and actually speaks logic these days.. You got an instant & huge fan/sub right from the first video!

[@Dras7]

I'm 99% sure the Rabbit "LAM" will just be a normal LLM model with saved user inputs to be replicated when an action Is called or APIs. There will be no ai model at all behind the actual action part, the model will just read the text or see the images like current Multimodal Models.

[@onemorechris]

i can’t help thinking Adobe won’t like this. also, what happens when a company changes their app?

[@rayaanalam3911]

Hey Guys Actually From seeing there reviews of the Rabbit, Humane and Rewind Me and some of my friends have built something which is trying to replace these Tech companies who are 90% Dependent on Design and charging laughable amounts So if anyone is intrested in our product Please do Connect with me Here I would love To take feedback and Share My solution with the people

[@UnitSe7en]

@@onemorechris Nothing has anything to do with Adobe. No clue why you're bringing them up.

[@bharcooldude]

There's already models called action transformers so these class of models are real

[@Words-.]

I don't agree. It seems to be training agentic behavior across websites, mimicking the manner in which humans navigate. An llm with plug ins can do rudimentary things specificed by the nature of the plug in. this seems to want the ai to be able to do ANYTHING that the user can do, with a voice command only, across any website without the use of plug ins. it would be cool if they could do that.

[@moecharms]

Love the hair and the lighting. It really works well for you Dave. It encapsulates your energy and personality beautifully!

[@kingsleygyekye8906]

After seeing the reactions to the release of the Humane AI Pin, this video was absolutely spot on. Incredible foreshadowing!

[@mikasimei9581]

700$ plus an additional 300$ just to use the device is insane. Its border line a scam its crazy

[@DailyCorvid]

Borderline?? It is 955% scam with 300% extra free scam lol literally the worst thing I have ever seen on this channel by a massive distance :D

[@rayaanalam3911]

Hey Guys Actually From seeing there reviews of the Rabbit, Humane and Rewind Me and some of my friends have built something which is trying to replace these Tech companies who are 90% Dependent on Design and charging laughable amounts So if anyone is intrested in our product Please do Connect with me Here I would love To take feedback and Share My solution with the people

[@Rinajahau]

The Aquascaping is great. We've witnessed how much you've grown as an aquascaper

[@zimm007g]

Just learned what that is because of you. Thanks!

[@Kevin-mx4vm]

Aquamanscape

[@victorforce2]

Rather than shooting lasers or having a tiny screen they could add a wrist band and have the screen be attached to your wrist, a body part that you can easily move in front of your eyes. That will even allow them to put sensors in the device to measure your heart rate, saturation and such. They could call it “intelligent ai watch” or something like that

[@esseferio]

LAM in itself is interesting. None of these devices are. Let's hope for LAM integration in our mobile and desktop OSes soon: that will save us from yet another device to carry along the ones we already carry.

[@Joshualacruz]

Well put. I am very much looking forward to- and feel very hopeful for LAM on our existing devices.

[@steppedon]

The LAM is a list of thinly disguised 3rd party APIs that will solve for 98% of use cases. Want an Uber? API. Want DoorDash? API. Want to send Grandma an email? API. Want to make a blog post? API. That leave scraping the DOM on some random website and replaying your clicks. Groundbreaking! QA teams have only been doing that for the last two decades. Also, the chance of this working with a tool like Photoshop off of the “learning” will never happen.

[@Joshualacruz]

Hey @@steppedon , I hope you have a good day. You're probably right. I am not going to say this system is not using API because, that's probably the best solution for the problem. However the "groundbreaking" part of this concept is that we can put this API business in the hands of fools like myself. I know enough about programming to know that I should never do it. It'd be really interesting for me to use a system as advertised as Rabbit. If you can help make it a reality on normal devices, please do. You seem to know what you're talking about.

[@gabrielmoro3d]

Finally someone talking about these ChatGPT hardware scams.

[@kanadoots]

This is top tier content. I love it. Do more of these - doesn't have to be similar skepticism type topic but just you talking deep about technology like youre talking to us like youre our friend. Your thoughts and ideas about stuff like these are as good as a showcase of devices and whatnot entertainment-wise.

[@thejeffinvade]

Is the model calculation done by the chip in the device or in the cloud? If it is in the cloud, I imagine latency would be a big issue.

[@nocopyrightgameplaystockvi231]

These are tiny models i guess

[@nocopyrightgameplaystockvi231]

@@willng34 these are too useless devices for the lazies out there. The fancy ones are going get it for the fun, market it, and the brainwashed going to buy it in lots. That's how it works.

[@whenhen]

It has to be mostly in the cloud for more complex stuff. Google and Microsoft required teams of highly paid engineers to get even some on device AI working on much higher end CPUs than what these devices are likely running.

[@LibreGlider]

Def cloud. You get the compute and you get the data to retrain the models faster.

[@Dave2D]

Cloud for majority of it

[@williamkesner781]

The thing that got me excited about rabbit was definitely the LAM interface. As I understand the pitch - this could fall apart in practice, we don't know yet - you have a Lego mindstorms esq cloud interface to program functions for multiple apps.

[@samcurmudgeon]

Greetings from 1 month in the future. We've seen reviews of both devices and Dave was right. So, so right.

[@OkieDokieSmokie]

The Humane AI pen was clearly useless just from viewing their presentation. I’m skeptical but hopeful for the R1. I would heavily consider getting one if it could turn my phone into “that rectangle I only use for youtube videos”

[@molarrr]

The rabbit are one is a Collab with teenage and engineering. They’ve said so in marketing material.

[@jason_v12345]

And another thing he got wrong: it doesn't take action without confirmation from the user. There's no need to worry about hallucinations making $20,000 purchases, or whatever nonsense examples he gave.

[@WrldExplorer]

When you said they edit and cut the video on the wait time. 😂 hilarious. I’ve been researching translation devices, and all of those companies do the same thing. I even called them out on it.

[@darsh2209]

I'm sorry but these things have to be integrated within a smartphone for them to work. As a separate device, these things have no chance. No one is gonna replace this as their smartphone

[@darsh2209]

The sorry was directed towards these companies who think that this could become mainstream. It was meant in the sense that "I'm sorry to break your heart but this is the truth". Lol

[@skumar3395]

At last a sensible review I had been looking for since I heard about these devices.

[@Koko.25]

I have been a subscriber since i was in highschool and now im 24 and still take your advice, you are one of the most honest tech masters that i have ever seen till this day, and just the fact that you speak your mind when you review something says a lot. Thank you for the amazing content

[@Jaiysful]

When Dave mentioned about the 'editing' on social media about the pre-release orange thing, I remember in the trailer itself they edit out the AI response. They just show you can ask question A, it never shows it will give you an answer. It's insane the kind of things people fall for.

[@rayaanalam3911]

Hey Guys Actually From seeing there reviews of the Rabbit, Humane and Rewind Me and some of my friends have built something which is trying to replace these Tech companies who are 90% Dependent on Design and charging laughable amounts So if anyone is intrested in our product Please do Connect with me Here I would love To take feedback and Share My solution with the people

[@philkingston7679]

Dave didn't bother to go look at some of the videos not edited like that

[@RastaHenkie]

lol they did a whole tech demo in the first presentation, they edit the video because short are 1 min and people have attention spans of 12 sec or less 🤦‍♂️

[@nigel-uno]

You're complaining people edit videos for short form content?😂 People trim pauses all the time in dialogue just like Dave did for this video. People do not have the attention span to wait 5 seconds in silence as someone recalls. They will open TikTok, Subways Surfers and some ADHD video

[@MagicFlav]

This reminds me the promises made by the wearable company Misfit. At the end, the company was acquired by Fossil for 260M in 2015. Nothing much came out of it later, just a nice exit for their founders.

[@The_Harylaba]

This video aged so well 😂😂

[@verbon47]

Facts, he knew😂😭

[@JohnneyleeRollins]

More screens to scratch in my pockets 😅

[@zerokiryu6330]

I can't begin to tell you how close I came to buying an r1. I literally had my credit card out. I was so so so close, but I had some skepticism. Part of me regretted not getting it. That part doesn't exist anymore. I hadn't thought about the things that you are saying here and I'm so glad you said them. Fantastic video!

[@rayaanalam3911]

Hey Guys Actually From seeing there reviews of the Rabbit, Humane and Rewind Me and some of my friends have built something which is trying to replace these Tech companies who are 90% Dependent on Design and charging laughable amounts So if anyone is intrested in our product Please do Connect with me Here I would love To take feedback and Share My solution with the people

[@philkingston7679]

Problem is that a fair amount of what he said is coming from a negative viewpoint and from not understanding the product or even have read much about it. Comes across as just salty he didn't get sent one tbh

[@RastaHenkie]

It’s his worse video I’ve seen. Is 200 a lot money to you or not? Because there practically giving it away for free it comes with a year of perplexity AI which cost more.

[@RastaHenkie]

@@giuwuseppe It’s only 200 the AI pin cost 700 plus a subscription that cost most then the R1 yearly. If you have a subscription to perplexity it’s cheaper to buy a R1. When is the last time a new tech device dropped cheaper then a Nintendo Switch 🤦‍♂️

[@YuProducciones]

dont listen this bots responding bro, go with you gut decision and just like you said, dont buy this shit. let other be the testers😂

[@benzymatic]

I actually really appreciate a tech KZbinr showing this much skepticism towards these sorts of products. Breath of fresh air, frankly. Kepp up the good work!

[@MarcStollmeyer]

I will admit, my first thought was “Siri, Alexa, Ok Google, etc will just become just as good in 6 month and drive these guys out of business”. And then I used Siri and Alexa and realized just how little they have improved in the last 10 years compared to the demos that Rabbit showed. Sometimes we need small companies to drive innovation, but that still doesn’t quite satisfy our inevitable security concerns. It was recently leaked btw that Amazon cut funding for the Alexa team because it was failing to turn all the extra data it collects on people into measurably more sales. Talk about saying the quiet part out loud. There absolutely has to be an ulterior motive with how low the price of the Rabbit is.

[@davidjohnson5635]

It’s how enshittification works bro, you start people out with something being underpriced and get them to a critical mass that you then court companies to provide resources to market. Then you just scoot right into the middle and gobble up everything with fees.

[@wotwithbert7591]

My general take is that marketing is often based on business requirements which are projections for future dev work to be done. To get the marketing department to do actual justice to what has been made without compromise, there would be no marketing in tech. It's just a gimmick to represent an idea of what hasn't or can't be done.

[@dennyw2383]

Imagine unlimited potential these devices COULD have if adding 6 inch touch screen.

[@radtheori]

Thanks for the clarification of these items. Wasn't sure how legit these products are going to be.

[@randomaccount53793]

HumaneAI is straight up a scam. The Rabbit R1 just seems overly-optimistic. The R2 will likely just be an app and will use the training data from the R1.

[@rayaanalam3911]

Hey Guys Actually From seeing there reviews of the Rabbit, Humane and Rewind Me and some of my friends have built something which is trying to replace these Tech companies who are 90% Dependent on Design and charging laughable amounts So if anyone is intrested in our product Please do Connect with me Here I would love To take feedback and Share My solution with the people

[@ikoyDaPnoy]

100% transparency and honesty from a product company is rare.

[@thomaslystDK]

Nice haircut, Dave. Looking sharp 🙂

[@yomi001]

He was inspired by the look of your mom's muff.

[@Taskade]

Good to see you covering this Dave and thanks for digging into these AI gizmos with us!

[@strikecover]

There's a much bigger play than creating an app for these guys-they're building hardware AND software. If they had an app they would be dependent on other companies, and i dont know about you but Apple/Google challenger brands should be welcomed-esp given the all round design effort gone into these products. Idk, there's already a bunch of llm apps you can download if that's what you want but i'm excited to move things forward.

[@verbon47]

HE KNEW

[@japheth2316]

This aged well, Dave was right

[@daryuscash2155]

These products also will improve there AI models significantly. In 2years the amount of training data those companies will have will be insane. This is a big issue with big tech since people are not comfortable giving ai access to their phones data, but people that buy AI devices are implicitly giving access to data.

[@arnaudsm]

Finally a tech influencer that can call bullshit and not drink the kool aid. 100% agree with your interpretation, these companies feel odd and dishonest, and are just fueling the AI bubble.

[@asdfasdfasdfasdfzzzz]

Easy way to say you don't understand LAM

[@arnaudsm]

@@asdfasdfasdfasdfzzzz I literally work on headless browsers and worked on AI for years. It's not realistic at all. Every major platform fights automated activity at scale. It's a cat and mouse game that never ends, therefore reliability is poor.

[@swagheel]

There is nothing these "devices" can do that a smartphone released after 2016 can't do. I feel like all the people who buys these things are gonna be extremely rich people who thinks Apple invented VR displays

[@iwanovaca]

Speech to text wasn't that good in 2016. That and battery life prob the only things

[@michaelthomson5125]

No one has ever said Apple invented VR displays. That's just something you've invented.

[@no-nukez]

Your joke didn’t make any sense. Why would Apple fanboys be buying non-Apple products?

[@Fatvod]

You guys are still thinking in terms of api's and traditional voice models

[@Fatvod]

@enilenis no? The device itself is not what's revolutionary. Its the LAM system in the cloud. You might want to do a little research on what it's capable of.

[@forrestlanaux5785]

I’m glad you made this video! I keep getting stupid ads about these things and wondered why would you use this technology lmao

[@sharmaakshat]

I have GPT voice assistants as a widget on my iPhone’s lock screen!

[@rickythethird]

so, basically you have it too

[@marcom5500]

I kept getting ads for the rabbit r1 but immediately thought "this is stupid, it's just a worse, less secure and more tedious experience of a phone" and blocked the ad on KZbin

[@Samolin69]

We've had voice assistants for years now and theres a reason why most people only use it for very basic stuff like setting a timer lmao

[@essaquadry]

What does a smart watch do? The answer would be similar- "it's pretty much what your phone does, but with a lot less functionality." Yet still you seem to be wearing one. 🤔

[@rumbleizer]

I'm not sure the comparison is accurate - smart watches are more or less fitness devices, and notification machines. They're far more available than pulling your slab of phone out of your pocket (and you still have to pull out a slab for the R1). Think about your argument for more than 5 seconds before posting garbage shill material like this

[@nigel-uno]

​@rumbleizer Are you this delusional? A smart watch is 100% unnecessary. You can check your notifications and your heart rate via your phone. Ads for smart watches advertise being able to perform voice calls which is what a phone is for. There's even maps for smartwatches which is what a phone can do. But a smartwatch does only that. The comparison is dead accurate and you just sound like a shill for smartwatches.

[@AlexJHatesGoogle]

@@nigel-unoif you wore one you’d get it

[@Wanhope2]

Smaller, attached, extra sensors

[@spoingus-]

off topic but why is this video not in 4k like your other videos? not that it looks bad or anything but just simply curious lol

[@HydroSheep]

it certainly looks crunchier than usual

[@simeydotme]

Very eloquently put, Dave! Great video. Totally agree

[@abhijay_hm]

what i really respect here is that Dave isn't just putting out his opinions, but is quite clearly understanding and explaining the technology behind the devices. most people just throw around buzz words related to AI which as a tech enthusiast and an engineer is quite frustrating and annoying.

[@RaedVS]

That Rabbit R1 is just a Pokédex.

[@langamlalazi6803]

Brilliant review!! perhaps the hypothesis for the catchy (and well priced) Rabbit R1 hardware argument, was for the 100,000+ people to train the LAM. Really scared about the AI hallucinations in booking my holiday and end up maxing out my bank account 😂

[@IAmAPhan]

The humane one is interesting as a concept but I'm not interested in getting either. 🤔

[@StarmenRock]

Its functionality is horrible. Overpriced crap made by sellouts

[@detsu9176]

I'm just wondering how I'm gonna watch KZbin on it

[@IAmAPhan]

@@StarmenRock It hasn't even been released yet. How do you know this? Should actually use it before making a statement like that.

[@StarmenRock]

@@IAmAPhan Ive seen a boatload of videos on it. Some comedic, some going in depth, all proving that its definitely something ex Apple hardware designers would do. Its all out there.

[@rayaanalam3911]

Hey Guys Actually From seeing there reviews of the Rabbit, Humane and Rewind Me and some of my friends have built something which is trying to replace these Tech companies who are 90% Dependent on Design and charging laughable amounts So if anyone is intrested in our product Please do Connect with me Here I would love To take feedback and Share My solution with the people

[@hiroshi6421]

It's giving out the vibe of the video game The Day Before

[@StingrayForLife]

I'm going to call this as the "AI Willy Wonka Experience" for people with too much disposable income

[@harryguo]

The UX of these devices are overseen by wealthy founders trying to replace their human assistants who book their trips and order their meals. They don't have a strong understanding and/or care about the nuances of performing those tasks on phones. They just see them as tedious without acknowledging that many people tinker and tweak their orders for important reasons (ie. maximize savings for flights, customize food orders for allergies, etc.).

[@HardstylePete]

These tasks are which complex with a range of requirements and trade off decisions to be made. There effectively isn't one "right" booking method. For those with the time and money to book whatever, probably aren't spending of that time today to consider these factors. Most people just want these automations to install a new app or something basic.

[@ruujay3222]

This video aged perfectly 😅

[@jayseb]

Voice interaction sounds great... in theory. In day to day either smart phone or could imagine smart glasses

[@watsonwrote]

I will say there is psychological value to having something be a separate physical device instead of an app. I can make music using the touchscreen on my laptop just fine, but I like having the physical synth to feel the buttons and just have a different mindset with it. I like using LSDJ on a physical GameBoy or DS instead of pressing buttons on a computer keyboard even though it's functionally identical, because it's not psychologically identical. I can see the Rabbit R1 being fun because of that physicality and separate-ness from the phone. Yeah, it's kind of gimmicky, but I still like it when some products and experiences are embodied instead of just being yet another thing on my phone. Some things I definitely do want on my phone, but not everything.

[@johnathanphillips4417]

It's refreshing to finally see a video in my feed questioning these devices rather than just giving them praise. I actually cancelled my pre-order for the R1 because a) I have a habit of impulse buying things just for the novelty to wear off and never be touched again, b) while devices like these need a market to receive feedback and improve, currently, my smart phone's interface is far more precise and, I feel, is more effective for what I need it to do. Now my biggest point, is that c) I feared a bait-and-switch might be underway after seeing the campaign for a free year of perplexity. For this level of research and development, is a subscription-less business model really economically feasible in the long run? Not to mention, whose servers are even providing the service? Is it exclusively Rabbit? Does Open AI or another company provide some of the functionality? It's got to be paid for somehow. Also, (equally as important..) d) what makes my data so secure with Rabbit, or, for the matter, an LAM that's in its infancy. Not saying they've given any really reason to doubt them, but they *are* the new guys. TLDR; Lot's to consider.

[@Wanhope2]

Unfortunately that means you need to shake up your feed sources a bit

[@svelard7]

this kind of content is why I stay subscribed to your channel, thanks Dave

[@Wizo_0]

How right you were.

[@finnwain2183]

its kinda like when oven companies made a new tabletop mini oven and called it an air fryer. Most people aren't willing to buy another ovens but you market it as something completely different and it sells.

[@thatdarnskag5043]

It's a mini-oven that's easily movable and takes less time to pre-heat, so even the air fryer has some tangible advantages over its counterpart. I can't really see that with these AI pins.

[@OMNI_INFINITY]

*ACTUALLY software engineers CAN still make apps that can access those items on both apple and google platforms, as long as customer agrees to allow it when installing the apps*

[@AdrielVelazquez]

AI is great especially as a utility, but both these products just seem like an attempt at a first-mover advantage in the hardware AI space.