What Arma Reforgers New Tutorial Tells Us About Arma 4

[@MedicalTape_xX]

tbh I want to see Arma 4 just slowly make every system more and more in-depth: Tanks like GHPC, Planes like War Thunder, Weapons like Tarkov, Medicine like ACE, CQB like Ground Branch, etc etc (Destruction? Ground deformation?). I know it's not going to release with all that, but I care a lot more about that stuff than I do new assets/campaigns.

[@SirIronbeard]

Oh they'll definitely be doing that. The update on experimental right now has new ammo types for more modern weapons, and they've done stuff with weapon optics for modders to use in the past too.

[@Adam-kk7nw]

Arma 4 on unreal engine confirmed?

[@38forger]

dear god we do not need medicine like ACE. the current system is good enough

[@MedicalTape_xX]

@@38forger it should be available, but yeah not mandatory

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

CQB ought to be more like Six Days in Fallujah given the closer similarities in gear and weapons.

[@glennpeterson1357]

I for one love the Cold War period and the alternative history of a NATO/Warsaw conflict, but if they’re going for that, BI better make it epic! No fighting over just a few patchy peripheral islands. The main stage would need to be central Europe and be sweeping in scale

[@SirIronbeard]

That would be so awesome if it was!

[@ryanjones7]

Yes

[@OksmanTV]

Cold War is definitely the best, balance wise. However, modern setting is good enough because we are not asking for a full game really those who are veterans of Arma. What we need is core features that allow modders to breakthrough and create amazing things. All we need is a platform and say for example a WW2 setting would have no reason to get missiles or radar or all these features in Arma 3, we need as many features as possible and our modders will stretch the ERAs from gunpowder to Warhammer. Hope I don't get too old before we get a chance to play!

[@jed6rar]

this big this

[@PointThirtyMediaAirsoft]

Dang, I was hoping it would continue the Arma 3 story

[@dscshendy4446]

Arma 4 should have been modern or near future IMO. But with the capabilities of the mudding community even folks like me who wanted that experience are sure to get it in Arma 4.

[@SirIronbeard]

There are already modern Ukraine v. Russia servers on Reforger

[@B.D.E.]

Near future sucked ass so bad. Modern, or literally anything that has actually existed in reality would be better than the half baked nonsense we had in Arma 3. I think Arma 2 was the peak of the series in terms of setting and military assets.

[@dscshendy4446]

@@B.D.E. Very true, It's always a bonus that the modding community are clutch

[@zoriiginalx7544]

Modern is best. ArmA 2 is the best ArmA for that reason (+ DayZ mod)

[@pjohns9532]

I really wanted them to do a modern setting with their new engine. But I can live with the Cold War for the story. What I really need them to add is Cold War era jets and proper hotas support to Reforger please.

[@vt7586]

I think Arma 2's setting was the best, not too futuristic like Arma 3 and not too old like OFP cold war (edit) or reforger.

[@SONNENKVLT]

ArmA 3 is not even that futuristic nowadays

[@B.D.E.]

@@vt7586 the original cold war setting of OFP was every bit as good as Arma 2's though. Arma 2's strength was having a lot more content overall.

[@B.D.E.]

@@SONNENKVLT It wasn't wven futuristic on release, they failed to implement any future tech effectively, apart from maybe drones. Everything else was badly done.

[@sakjdbasd]

ARMA 1 was fine as it was gulf war level of tech, think you meant the cold war assault

[@ArlindoBuriti]

To me, they need to introduce server meshing to arma 4, as a smaller scale experience compared to the tittles that are trying to do this tech, arma would be able to have more complex things happening if is not just one server dealling with everything.

[@SirIronbeard]

That would be really cool and allow for much bigger scale of battles if they can pull it off

[@Darkdiver28]

I dont think they will be able to do it on their own. Server meshing is some serious tech, even CiG (Star Citizen) and Eve developers are still trying to implemented it 100%

[@FishRepair]

Arma 4 being set in both coldwar era conflicts as well as modern would totally make sense. Making Reforger only one half of Arma 4 with all the code to iron out

[@ItsPapaEddy]

I’m very appreciative the bright Arma to console finally. There’s been such a drought of good shooters for so long

[@MidwestSurvivalCompany]

Snow runner physics in arma would be awesome to see

[@MrFusselig]

I thought about your video again. By coincidence I stumbled upon Fehmarn... not in the context of Arma 4, but it would make sense in Arma 4. Fehmarn is one of the biggest German Islands, it was a western German island, close to the border to the GDR. The Island was quite an important post for the observation of Warsaw pact forces in the Baltic sea, and every Soviet ship would have to pass Fehmarn to get to the north Sea. At the same time, Fehmarn was an important transit point for NATO forces to cross from and to the Scandinavian countries, Norway and Denmark. So it would have some strategic value. By this, Fehmarn it it's full size would be a bit smaller than Altis was in Arma III, and it would fit completely 1:1 into the world of Arma 4. There is a land connection to the south with a bridge, which could also be part of the map, if you do it cleverly, or this could just be left out, and you could pretend Fehmarn was just an isolated island. But this would diminish it's role for the need of NATO forces to transit. The island itself isn't very remarkable, in the 80s it wasn't densely populated. Less than 10.000 people on the whole island. The biggest town had about 6000 people. For Arma still quite big, but might be possible to put it off, especially as many buildings were very similar. If would a website of the B-plan-services online, which probably stands for "Bebauungsplan", and you can not only check for the plans of which buildings stand where, but there are also dates on the plans with changing notes for most areas, so you can check which buildings were added when. And Fehmarn grew steadily since the 80s and the end of the cold war, with a lot of tourism and hotels since then. On the other hand, the countryside is boring, most of the island is covered with fields and meadows, lots of farms and small villages. One slightly bigger town with 6000 people. Very few wooded areas, coats and roads. Not a single true forest. Barely any hills, the island is almost completely flat. I guess it could be pulled off, although not for its interesting countryside, but definitely for the setting.

[@SirIronbeard]

Wow thats very interesting, thank you for those insights!

[@MrFusselig]

I'm totally up for the cold war setting... I would prefer an Able Archer leads to a hot war in fall 1983 scenario, but it would be possible to mod this, if Bohemia just makes a game about a remote island...

[@The-Vay-AADS]

-14 LUFS "Content Loudness" perfectly HIT! AWESOME! Look at that AUDIO PROFESSIONAL! :D Booom!

[@SirIronbeard]

Sometimes ya just gotta tune it by ear ;)

[@The-Vay-AADS]

@@SirIronbeard following the intuition! da waeeee

[@matheuskg123]

nice video, just bought the hame today and it was definetly a good purchase

[@my-cars-stalin4547]

Nogova is from OFP: resistance I hope we are going back there 🤞

[@gabriel-bl4ckh4wk-6]

This video is so grounded and informative, thanks man !

[@riotmaker650]

Your videos are goated bro

[@SirIronbeard]

Thank you so much, that really means a lot!

[@riotmaker650]

@SirIronbeard no problem! Hope to see you in game someday and make a video with ya sometime!

[@andrewstickley6681]

Very glad they are sticking with Cold War. Hands down the most fun era to play in ArmA, and the last time period where a world-war scale combined arms war was a realistic possibility.

[@ZoZooZoooZoxxxx]

Not Ukraine being invaded, for some this new Cold War is real

[@Nacjo_Farmer]

I was hoping for modern times with US and Russian armies but Cold War is also ok because from US and Soviet assets modders will be able to build many modern NATO factions and post-Soviet/Middle Eastern countries based on them

[@B.D.E.]

Plus russia is still largely dependent on Cold War stocks to make up most of their equipment. Maybe not for much longer because they have lost most of it. Something like -3500 MBTs alone now.

[@Zarviya]

I vibe with the cold war setting I honestly think it's awesome mods will fix the modern setting fans

[@Grimnir_x]

I can't remember the last time I played on a server that was remotely cold war-esque, the server we play on is all modern gear (M4's, night vision, plate carriers etc) thanks to mods

[@alexkrystaszek5201]

for everyone talking about the setting, if this game is successful it will probably be around for a decade or two, and if bohemia wants to support it that long, i could see us having multiple campaigns in different settings, if they decide to focus on singleplayer. iirc the official arma 3 content (excluding cdlc) spans from about 2025 to 2040, which is tac-ops missions to contact campaign.

[@yak-machining]

The only mode i play in every Arma game so far is editor mode😂 idk its so fun to explore and fooling around

[@TheDabKing710]

So excited to wait 2 years for the arma reforger DLC called arma 4

[@mreazy9877]

I would be incredibly happy if Arma 4 is a new classic operation flashpoint.

[@Trve_Kvlt]

If it Arma 4 becomes essentially Cold War Assault 2, I really hope they combine all the islands into one map. Literally the map you're seeing at 3:31, but I feel like you'd really need good boats or ships (please bohemia, just give us actual working aircraft carriers and shit)

[@bobthebuilder1360]

Arma 4 will be cross play that would make xboxs crash that won't happen

[@ActuallyGuliBulli]

Seeing 2027 shocked me, not gonna lie. I hope that the asset thing is something in between because Id love a more 2008-10 kinda setting like Arma 2, maybe even similar to Arma 3. Few cool technology stuff but nothing ridicilous. Ive always loved the Artillery in Arma 3 or the sniping in Arma 2.

[@nathantargato4689]

I'm hoping for a modern setting for Arma 4 because some of us guys in the community don't like playing with mods. I find official content tends to be more polished then mods and I'd like to see modern day jets like the f35 with those glide bombs, that would be cool.

[@Ben_lupul_69]

I personally think realistic modern combat would be absolutely miserable. Drones being the main thing

[@HoriaM29]

Your F35 comment kinda illustrates the issue tho. You want near-contemporary setting and tech but with 90's style combined arms tactics. You want the cool tacticool gear and operator shit but you also don't want thermals or have to cower in a corner from the swarm of drones. You know what the F35 experience would be like? If you're on the receiving end, you'll just get blown up all of a sudden by a GPS-guided bomb that some guy dropped from 200 kliks away - not fun. If you're flying the F35, you'll be staring at a screen on autopilot at 40,000 ft, selecting the red dot, and clicking your mouse to drop a bomb on some poor fucker you can't even see from 200 kliks away - again, not very fun. The Cold War era (up to the 90's) is the perfect level of military technology for that amazing combined arms warfare that people enjoy.

[@nathantargato4689]

@HoriaM29 All that you have described is in Arma 3. Thermals, drones, and GBUs. I've used all of them in Arma 3 vanilla, and it was a lot of fun back in the day. One thing I personally dislike is that in Arma Reforger, it has a lot more arcady gun fights because the objective bases are located in close quarter areas to get on the flag to capture the base. It pushes players to choose some kind of full auto load out, typically an lmg because of the nature of the combat environment. That's one of the reasons some of my friends who played Arma 3 won't go and play Arma Reforger. Gone of the days of being engaged by the enemy from 1 kilometre away from a sniper or some kind of armoured vehicle. There's a good number of guys in the Arma community that want Arma 4 to be like Arma 3, but just with more updated technology.

[@HoriaM29]

@@nathantargato4689 I get what you mean regarding Reforger. The combination of the "default" game mode (Conflict), as well as the very woody and hilly map concentrates engagements to close distances. But gamemodes are player-dependent (I'm sure if Invade and Annex would be ported to Reforger, we'd see some better and longer distance firefights), and the map is simply the combat environment you're operating in, you have to adapt, not much you can do about that. And regarding Arma 3 - despite its alleged time and technology being near future, the choices in military gear provided in-game were still very much inspired by the 2010's. You have things like attack jets (A164, the A10) which would absolutely not be used in a modern combat theatre, a large focus on MANPADS instead of long-range SAM sites, combat-capable drones were limited to large MQ-9 style UAV's, thermals limited to vehicle sights, etc. Even so, from my experience in public servers and private unit ops, people tended to ignore a large portion of Arma 3's assets and tactics (e.g. artillery, long distance bombing runs) in order to allow for infantry-focused battles, with only limited armored/air support. All I'm saying is - people tend to gravitate towards infantry-focused experiences since that way the most amount of people tend to get involved. Unfortunately the evolving battlefield has made that less and less prominent. But 80's war tech and doctrine is a perfect fit for that infantry focus, all the while having armored/air support that is still vulnerable. It's one thing to have a helicopter stay in cover 3km away throwing bullets and missiles at you with no opportunity to fight back, and another when it's dumbfiring rockets at you close enough that you could shoot the pilot with your rifle.

[@TheMrseanster67]

@@HoriaM29 I get what you're saying but I think you have a fundamental misunderstand of what Arma is. Arma is a milsim sandbox. It's more of a tool than it is a game that allows people to create tons of different modes and experiences. Balance should never be a concern, that can be left to mission creators. Being a sandbox, it should have as many features, systems, assets, etc to allow the community to create whatever their hearts desire. While an F35 might not be wanted in a pvp mission, it and its laser guided bombs would certainly be loved in a milsim group doing pve ops. The beauty of Arma is both those groups can balance their missions by how they see fit and be satisfied.

[@cminano982]

Idk if this has been mentioned yet, but back in the Cold War there were actual NATO Exercises called, EXERCISE REFORGER (REturn of FORces to GERmany), it was an exercise to ensure NATO forces could react quick enough to a Russian invasion into Germany, it’s something pretty cool to look into and gives more insight on how BI got the name for the game and also is literal proof that Arma 4 will be Cold War themed, we the players are in Exercise Reforger and preparing for the real war that’ll be in Arma 4!

[@bobthebuilder1360]

Yea reforger is just a test run for arma 4 so it's not crazy to assume it's gonna be set after reforger

[@Lucaspb97]

well, my optimistic quess is that arma 4 will have multiple time settings

[@AverySnepper]

I don't particularly care for Cold War but I don't explicitly hate it either. The issue with Cold War and earlier settings, though, is that people are going to attempt modern and futuristic mods, and without baseline systems for stuff like drones or night vision (if BI doesn't add it) in vanilla, we're going to see a bazillion different systems attempting to recreate them and they'll all work differently from each other.

[@callum4796]

I would prefer arma 4 be in a modern setting, but the Cold War would have been my 2nd choice

[@edrisroots1172]

they better bring back Armstrong and Koslowsky I love dem

[@Kolaotse]

I myself am mainly interested in the modern setting but I think it won't be a problem thanks to modding. on the contrary if the game is set during the cold war I won't have to worry about base game contet that is way too modern on our retro operations. only thing that I hope is that someone will make a mod that changes the player animations to something more modern

[@solonemanuelwhitetigernava571]

I prefer arma 4 continues the Arma 3 story or to be set in modern era

[@omegadeca]

at this point that would mean 10 years of cold war gaming in BI sphere, which has some serious drawbacks when it comes down to 1) player iterest (cold war is a nieche) 2) dlcs. Arma reforger has been out for 2 years already, 2027 is gonna be a wtotal of 5 years. It would be absolutely stupid to make again another cold war setting game. It's just not plausible in my opinion. It's very likely going to be modern era

[@adam3adam363]

I would love to see a few smaller campaigns in different settings during 80s or early 90s. Like soviets vs mujahideens in afghanistan, britain vs argentina on falklands and some us vs. soviets in central europe.

[@EdtheGardener]

Falklands would be cool. But the islands appear to be pretty barren, giving little cover in firefights etc

[@christianpritz2044]

1989? Yes, fucking yes!

[@TheMrseanster67]

Bohemia choosing a cold war setting seems like a cop-out way of not having to recreate a lot of the advanced systems that come with modern tech that we saw in Arma 3. Think drones, guided bombs, radar, lock-on systems, etc. Yes I'm sure modders will make these things but they will never be as good and fleshed out as official content.

[@AverySnepper]

This.

[@ethanthereenactorguy4829]

Arma Reforger is my dream videogame when it comes to setting. That's why it always annoys me that people try to make it set in modern day. Arma 3 already did that.

[@sesh6667]

some people on console aren’t lucky enough to play arma 3 crap comment

[@ethanthereenactorguy4829]

@@sesh6667 Maybe get a PC then? Lmao

[@EdtheGardener]

I can't stand futuristic arma 3. Always searching for cold war scenarios in workshop!

[@solonemanuelwhitetigernava571]

I prefer modern era with the new graphic engine

[@sesh6667]

@@solonemanuelwhitetigernava571 same here i like both but ive been really enjoying the modern conflict stuff a lot armor gameplay changes the battlefield a lot

[@yuriyjikharev6966]

Nogova is ~95 km², whereas Everon is ~51 km² and Nogova also had only 1 airfield on the whole island Altis from A3 is ~270 km² and Chernarus from A2 is ~180 km²

[@yuriyjikharev6966]

i've been playing Arma since 2001 and i can tell you that Nogova island has 100% nothing to do with Lemnos. Lemnos is Altis, same shape but Nogova is like 3 times smaller and its shape is completely different from Lemnos + it has a river with a bridge google for Nogova map pictures and you'll see that its shape has strictly nothing to do with Lemnos/Altis

[@SirIronbeard]

Thanks for playing :)

[@sdfsdfsdfsdf7214]

Hello, at 0:20 you reference a Yan Duchek, or similar, I CANNOt for the life of me find his name!! Please if you know the spelling or how to find him online let me know!

[@SirIronbeard]

Ján Dušek is the correct spelling I believe

[@sdfsdfsdfsdf7214]

@@SirIronbeard Thank you

[@ARGAR_GAMES]

I wonder who first told you about the concert reveal?! 🤔🤔🤔 And the ArmA4 line! I feel like I've been vindicated. I've been saying this for the past year. Great vid tho.

[@SuperTyrannical1]

That timeline would also just be around 5 years after the Falklands war. So NATO would possibly make good use of the British battle hardened veterans that were experienced in that kind of small island conflict.

[@TepacheLoco]

Here’s hoping BIS don’t decide to make a vanilla British faction 😂

[@bobthebuilder1360]

They need to add in teamed faction like idk uk America vs china and russia ​@@TepacheLoco

[@rvh1999]

Uk sucks anyway

[@PsyOpCitizen]

If they add Nods I’ll be happy.

[@HyperHyena88]

How expensive of a PC do you need to make reforger look as good as it is on your screen . . . It looks DAMN GOOD compared to my PC.

[@TheBuckfastwine]

Enjoyed.

[@SirIronbeard]

Thank you :)

[@PantherCat64]

I'm still hoping for the Futura/2035 setting, it's one of my favorite concepts, goodness gracious the game was released in 2013 and got a bunch of things right by accident, even some of the little things. Secondly we never got closure in ArmA 3's DLCs, there's still way way more places to go narrative wise. I'd love to see a 2050 to 2070 prediction. Though if they're trending old ground of the story, it might not happen. AT BEST, we might see some events in Armaverse's 2015-2020 era. Though currently the wiki is still stating reforger is non-canon, it's not reliable but it does mean nothing has come out about the timeline yet. I'm trying to hold out hope, even though I doubt anyone cares about the 2035 setting in the community.

[@HoriaM29]

Honestly, after we've seen what a contemporary/future war is like from Ukraine, I don't think that would make for a fun game. Cowering in fear from drones and only doing hit and run tactics with minimal high-value asset usage (tanks, heli, planes) so drones can't destroy them - that sounds awful. The combined arms warfare that Arma is known for just doesn't exist anymore in near-contemporary settings due to the overreliance and overusage of technology, especially unmanned tech. The Cold War (maybe going into the 90's Gulf War tech) is the perfect era to have the iconic infantry + armor + air combined arms.

[@danyger6790]

⁠​⁠@@HoriaM291. Arma is a war simulator, making it without drones would be a shame(you can say that modders can add them, but their implementation would be pretty bad without vanilla mechanics) if you so scared about drones, just play on servers without them A3 also had drones, they were an issue? 2.Also making game in CW will eliminate ability to have good mechanics for thermals, NV and other cool tech

[@HoriaM29]

@@danyger6790 1. Arma 3 is a game first and foremost. It's a simulator yes, but it also has to make for a fun game for people to buy and play it. Arma 3 indeed had drones, but their implementation was mostly derived from 2010's UAV technology. That being, they were large, relatively slow and quite loud, had to take off from an airfield and were only used for ground strikes. Sure we had a handheld drone but it was only for scouting and took up an entire backpack slot so it was quite balanced in the end. Unfortunately, that's not what drones are today. Some shitty AliExpres drone can be used nowadays to take out anything from some guy to entire tanks or helicopters. Not very fun being on the receiving end I'd say. 2. That's just objectively wrong. The CW had some of the most major military technological advancements - you know, on account of being a global arms race? NVD's 3rd gen was developed on the late 80's (not to mention all the previous generations), and basically all of the Cool Military Shit people gush about dates back from the Cold War: M1A1 Abrams / AH-1, AH-64, Mi-24's and UH-60 / literally all the iconic fighter jets, F-14, F-15, F-16, F/A-18, Su-27, MiG-29 / not to mention all the old stealth designs of the B1, B2, F117 and more. All of them are Cold War tech baby. Hell, Reforger is set in 1989 which means literally all of the above were already in service, some for more than a decade! Yes, thermals didn't really exist until after the CW, but I'd say that's a good thing rather than a bad one, no one enjoys fighting against thermals in A3. Saying the CW had no cool tech is just... plain wrong my man...

[@IAtarenI]

The part with nogova looking like Altis was a joke right? If so, it didn’t feel like it. Just in case - Altis is based on Lemnos, and Bohemia devs were imprisoned for a year on the accusation of spying in Greece (they were taking reference photos for Arma 3 Altis). Nogova would definitely not be anything like Lemnos and has nothing to do with it, it wouldn’t make any sense. It’s kinda wild to even imply that. I truly hope it was a joke. If not, please rectify the content to stop any kind of wild misinformation this could generate

[@uncledavid1132]

Idk, take a look at Novoga and Altis side by side and they both look like they are based on Lemnos to me...

[@ben-niej-barkii4888]

i will be a vet when arma 4 comes out lol then i am 37

[@abdelhakyac7285]

We need better explosions, effects..... squad did it...... we need better character movement, reforger looks like clowns running, arma 3 was better..... we need more liberty of action if they wanna make arma4 the simulator: we need to be able to hang a objects like a torch somewhere in a house to lure enemies in, we need to be able to dig trenches in order to defend the city.... and so on and so on

[@claudej8338]

"Bohemia made a Betestda game". IronBeard, oct 2024. You made me spill my coffee and fries there Sir.

[@SirIronbeard]

Coffee and fries sound like an interesting combination!

[@kalebdelagardelle1686]

Missed ur vids

[@Phoenix411th]

Are we getting a new map

[@adarad]

Arma 1 setting in Sahrani maybe

[@OrigionalCigarette]

*My biggest hopes for arma 4 is:* [] AI dynamically navigate through both player and map-made assets [] AI behave more strategically during conflicts {I.e. Flanking, cover, etc} [] AI are more stable indoors and for CQC [] The game runs smoothly on modern OS when in large battles [] The campaign is as good, if not, better than Arma 3, [] Doesn't have as many DLC's, or at least sell DLC's for cheaper. Mostly the biggest complaints Arma 3 had was its basic AI system (compared to today) and how bad it can run at times, so i really hope its somthing that will be a focus in Arma 4. Needless to say, wherever i may be, whatever i am doing, i'm definitely buying Arma 4.

[@gabriel-bl4ckh4wk-6]

Bohemia + Bethesta cross over lmao

[@NotEpoxyResin]

cold war period is good, I just want late 80's jungle warfare so bad rn

[@ColdCoorsBanquet]

I’m glad Arma 4 is going to be a Cold War setting I’m getting tired of modern tacticool gucci gear operator stuff

[@dkDeMKN]

shame about the time period. one of the strengths of arma 3 is the near-future setting. tech systems were built in, and given as a foundation to modders to either work with, or downscale for older weapons/vehicles etc. if 4 ends up in the cold war, these systems would be fragmented across mods.

[@grog447]

That is a good point. I really like the near-future setting and its lore, it'll be a shame to see all the stuff from that time frame just gone for a setting that would've been made by modders near immediately.

[@dkDeMKN]

@@grog447 every word on point. you can downscale from a near future setting, but you can't as easily upscale from cold war/historic

[@dubmeisterxd2133]

why are so few people working on reforger? arma 4 is 3 years away

[@Themistocles30]

If its an mmo with just multiplayer servers and no singleplayer or creating scenarios then it has killed it. I'm predicting this might lead to that.

[@lDocteurLulu]

Not sure about cold era. Arma 4 will use reforger assets yes. But as far as i know all soviet stuff is still used today in minor countries/militias. Aswell as american stuff. So. We can still speculate

[@SumRussianJew]

I’ve always loved the cold war and I hate how it is always over looked because the only thing people care about is vietnam or the modern war

[@oldKonk]

archapelageeeeooo... stay at school kids.

[@SirIronbeard]

Got it, Arhcpalegiololol...

[@caffeineman5]

Arma 4 RP is so back

[@byronee]

I really wish Arma 4 would go full alternate world like in Ace Combat, they can keep all of the real world weapons, vehicles, and equipment but, maybe mixed around to create interesting combinations and variations (A country using Russian or Chinese vehicles but using UK infantry equipment and weapons). I think this would give Bohemia the ability to really get creative with the setting, not piss off any country/region or show bias. Besides there will always be real world US vs Russia mods like RHS and historical settings mods! Lastly, I think the whole Nato/US vs. Csat/Russia (or counter Nato equivalent) is old and over done, i’m personally sick of it, and Bohemia has already set all of their games in fake countries from Chernarus, Altis, to Livonia and Tanoa. They have shown more than capable of creating interesting alternate stories while mainting a real world feel. They might as well just go all out and get creative! But then again i’m not a game dev and i’m sure there will be a whole slew of other problems in creating an alternate world that I have not thought of.

[@INTHEWILDERNESS-00]

antistasi?

[@burgertanker7970]

So bored of the constant video game industry bombardment of modern conflicts and wars. So glad Arma is going back to an actually interesting period of history with actually interesting tech. Deserts vs insurgents or Ukraine vs Russia is just the most boring thing you can do, why play it, it's on the news ffs

[@Themistocles30]

All Arma games mainly focused on CSAT and NATO. None of them have nothing to do with Ukraine and Russia war.

[@ett_baer]

@@Themistocles30 Arma 3 and it's DLC's focused on CSAT and NATO, there are 4 games outside of Arma 3 with no mention of CSAT. I am so glad we are leaving that bullshit semi future era, it was shit. Arma 1 and 2's settings were far more interesting.

[@EdtheGardener]

​@@ett_baer100%

[@grog447]

@@ett_baer Stop being butthurt, there probably won't be much more content in that setting as compared to the endless mods for the Cold War and every other setting.

[@ett_baer]

@grog447 How am I butthurt? I said I'm glad, sounds like you're projecting.

[@NotThatGuyPal.]

Hope it’s modern and focuses on SOF.

[@Ben_lupul_69]

Play literally any other tactical shooter. That’s all the tactical shooter game industry is Anyway, it’s so incredibly over saturated

[@burgertanker7970]

Boooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiinggggggggggggg

[@feiocv]

Great, cold war

[@RAGE-56745]

When Arma 5? JK, but in all seriousness, PS6 when?

[@glennpeterson1357]

PS6?!?! 😂

[@TheAceuu]

Probably 2025 or 2026 maybe it will release with gta 6

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

I'm so fucking happy we're staying in the Cold War. The tactical shooter space is massively oversaturated by modern tacticool bullshit. Give me my classic M81 woodland, PASGT helmet+vest and M16 drip over the modern stuff any day.

[@theoturner1137]

M81 is the camoest camo to ever camo. Today everybody just wears multicam 😏

[@burgertanker7970]

Absolutely spot on, I agree 100%

[@HoriaM29]

Abso-fucking-lutely! Cold War really is the "perfect" era to game-ify since there's no single technology that overshadows and overpowers everything else (think 2010's importance of air superiority or contemporary usage of drones). It really is the ideal combined arms experience, where infantry can fight alongside IFV's, tanks, heli and planes without one of those being the clearly most important (in fact, infantry is arguably the most important, which makes for fun gameplay). Overeliance on technology is also not present which is great for player experience. Only thing I wish we could see is NVD's since night fighting can be quite messy in Reforger. Not to mention the 70's (Reforger years) has some more modern technology than people would expect. F14, F15, F/A-18, and even the F16's are technically all 70-ies tech. And they can always slowly push the era to the 80's so we get some quasi-modern stuff (especially on the Soviet side who took a bit longer than the Americans 🫢).

[@majorborngusfluunduch8694]

@@HoriaM29 Reforger is set in 1989, so Arma 4 will already benefit from the quasi-modern feel of the decade. And of course older assets (Vietnam Era stuff) can be included since old equipment, weapons and vehicles tended to be kept in storage to prepare for the rapid attrition rates World War III would've had.

[@HoriaM29]

@@majorborngusfluunduch8694 Are you sure about that tho? That sounds incredibly late for the level of tech we see in-game. Pretty much all of the weapons and vehicles seems to be from the mid-70's or earlier (main exception I can think of being the Humvee). But hey, not that I'm complaining. That just means even more freedom of choice for weapons and vehicles to add to the game. 😁

[@Magplar]

Altis IS Limnos.

[@chrisking3537]

Bohemia made a bethesda game mad me chukle

[@sambakerman9406]

Modern combat sucks......it's just a sniping match But my God they need bump the damage of the 5.56 round. It's like a peashooter.

[@DorkwingYT]

I'm VERY upset it's cold war 😡😡😡

[@Jsaint07]

Why u wanted modern combat ? We already have 2000 games like that Cold War seems waaay interesting

[@Ben_lupul_69]

Cold War makes for more fun actual gameplay. Modern era would be miserable if depicted realistically

[@Jsaint07]

@@Ben_lupul_69 exactly

[@DorkwingYT]

Because to me arma is the best combined arms simulator, this means we get a Bradley, m19, m50 ontos, bmp, btr, basically no data link, no drones. We have better targeting and automatic range finding, better stabilisation, thermal sights. Long story short I prefer modern.. and this will mean 3/5 arma games are in the cold war setting

[@DorkwingYT]

Also what will the story be, relatively nothing happened during the cold war

[@esto-bx1me]

I will be too old to care...

[@karlgimmedatforfreemarx]

If Arma 4 is anything like reforger, I have wasted thousands of hours on arma 3. Reforger is utter trash

[@trivixni435]

ffs why are we going vietnam again? why? so that modders can work their ass off doing modern things?

[@meuhey]

cold war *

[@benji_clark06]

Because the modern era is oversaturated. And I don't think this is Vietnam, seems more European cold war.

[@Jsaint07]

F the modders anyways they better start making lore accurate mods

[@johnfrench59]

i'd rather play arma 2

[@Chufabust]

Been playing operation flashpoint resistance aka arma cold war assualt since I was 3, im 24 now. Arma is thr stuff and when I say arma got it right the first time, go ahead and play ot for yourself. It's cheap and it's on steam. If they redid that holy smokes