What Barry Harris means by "Movement"

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Time Stamps
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00:00 - Intro
1:14 - Example Solo
1:45 - Introductory thoughts
3:26 - Dominant bebop scale as a quadrad pair
4:18 ‐ "I play movements, not chords"
5:13 - Tea For Two
5:32 - A simple definition of Movement
6:06 ‐ Back to Tea For Two
6:50 - Plumb
8:37 ‐ Pierce
9:04 - Perch
9:35 - not JUST chord substitutions
11:16 - Barry's master class
12:45 - I don't believe in 2's
13:12 - Plum Example
13:40 - Pierce & Plumb
14:50 - what about Perch?
15:09 - Example 1
16:01 - all 3 paths
16:31 - Example 2
17:30 - Example 3
17:56 - bonus
18:42 - possibilities
19:08 - what notes have to move?
18:53 - Barry's Plumb example
20:48 - Revisiting the Solo
22:27 - The Analysis

[@vertxsecretstash]

can't keep up with the lesson when the instructor is so handsome

[@TheTonomancer]

😅 I'll try extra hard not to show myself on screen so much next time

[@EddieHazel87]

You are an old white man no?

[@cedricary9633]

There may be a SIMPLER explanation for what you're getting at. I believe what Barry means by "movement" is just dominant to tonic. Diminished to tonic movement is a dominant to tonic movement. That's what Barry means by "there is no such thing as two" (traditional"2's" are called "minor7" voicings BUT every minor 7 is an inverted major 6.....so it technically CAN'T REALLY BE A TWO CHORD). But more importantly, there is a minor 6-chord on the 5th degree of the dominant scale. That minor 6-chord IS A FIVE CHORD - or a "dominant". Remember, when you move C# in C# diminished down a half step you get a C7, right? Well, when you move that same C# up a half step you get Gmin6 - a fifth. Barry's teachings are PRACTICAL applications of classical theory. The classical theory calls this stuff dominant substitutions, secondary dominants, leading tone substitutions and secondary leading tones. As you alluded to, these substitutions can occur MELODICALLY. Not just harmonically. In other words, you can target (or "tonicize") ANY arpeggio with "dominant" or secondary dominant arpeggios; and in this case, leading tone OR secondary leading tone (diminished) arpeggios - and that concept is VERY EXCITING once you realize the universe of possibilities it opens up.

[@TheTonomancer]

It's totally possible that when Barry said movement, he meant dominant to tonic. But I dont believe that's true. But maybe more importantly, what I'm getting at in this video is DEFINITELY not dominant to tonic resolution. It's much more than that. I try to make that point several times in the video.

[@Kosmo999]

Hey one thing to add to this, regarding the full dim having a note flattened to make a Dominant7 chord or raised to create a minor6, THIS HAPPENS WITH THE DIMINISHED SCALE TOO! The minor 6th dim scale is only one note different from the full Diminshed scale by exactly this movement too. Same with the dominant scale. These are all just one note different from the full diminihsed scale.

[@cedricary9633]

@@Kosmo999 fascinating

[@bozakarlin9034]

Great lesson, thanks.

[@Kosmo999]

Great video man glad to see you doing your thing:)

[@johnharrisjr.351]

Appreciate your approach to this material.

[@TheTonomancer]

Thanks! I really appreciate that. And hope to make more videos like this

[@nulldude782]

Perfect. Not easy to find players who know how to do this.

[@DallonAnderson]

Great lesson!

[@TheTonomancer]

Thanks so much! I'm glad you liked it.

[@anselmbuchmann4552]

thanks a lot

[@TheTonomancer]

No problem, glad to help!

[@tactlacker]

Loving your 3Ps fyi I’m going to embrace this route

[@TheTonomancer]

The paths are some of my favorite ways to think about diminished chords. Through how they move. 🙌🏽

[@brynrbrts]

I’ve been studying the 8 note scales off and on over the years. Even though this video is discussing “Barry stuff”(which is great!), I’m glad to hear someone glimpse the world outside of the diminishes. Have you found the 10 chords? I’m looking forward to watching your other videos. My music theory has turned into runes and 3D structures in eight note space.

[@TheTonomancer]

DUUUUDE YESS. thanks for commenting. There's soooo many videos about 8 note scales that I wanna do. By 10 chords do you mean the 10 chord forms? Like digital patterns within 8 note scales. Of which there are 10.

[@brynrbrts]

@@TheTonomancer Yeah you should…there’s a way of thinking that, in my opinion, gets excluded. And there’s a TON of stuff I’ve never heard anyone go over. (I thought of doing some myself) I’m not sure if we’re talking about the same thing or not. I’d love to compare notes. I’m talking about the 10 chords that make all 8 note scales. Barry used half of them. Are you talking about this? x.x.x.x. (xxxx|....) x...|xxx. (X..x(x)x..X) .xxx|...x xx(.x|x.).. xx.(x.)x.. x.x.|.x.x xx..xx.. ..(x.x.)xx

[@Kosmo999]

@@brynrbrtsare you meaning the 10 four note chords that don’t contain semitones? Maj6 Min6 Dom7 Dom7b5 Maj add9 Min add11 Dom7#5 Dom9 (no fifth) Diminished Maj6sus2 ?

[@Kosmo999]

I think Tonomancy is refering to the fact with any 8 note scale, theres 70 four note chords, that fit neatly into unique 10 chord scales. Every 8 note scale has 10 chord scales attached

[@TheTonomancer]

@@brynrbrts some of your comment makes me think we maybe aren't taking any the same thing. But your tab things at the end make me think we might be.

[@TheWriter86]

Fellow lefty guitarist, or is the camera just doing that because it’s inverted? Great lesson and insights bro. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@TheTonomancer]

It's definitely the camera, I play right handed. Glad you liked the lesson, man 🙏🏽

[@devonmoore3854]

1k views!!!