What Bits May Come | 4-Sided Dive | Episode 30 Discussing Up To C3117

[@Caimbul]

An animated planet Exandria docuseries with Liam voicing an Attenborough type character needs to happen.. Even if it's just an April 1st joke trailer.. So good.

[@Gholdenbro_]

Liam needs to be a tragedy bard in C4, it's tailored made for him. Come on Liammmm!!!

[@equusheart3344]

Yes! Please!

[@homon4422]

Yes Please!!

[@TempestLM]

It's made for CR in general! Imagine Matt doing his monologues when dying under Bard's ability

[@cliffsharp1771]

PLEASE LIAM WE NEED IT!!!!!

[@srlong1123]

He will be playing a cleric in campaign 4. He has talked about how he wants to play the four original classes from the first edition, and cleric is the only one he’s missing. It would be awesome for campaign 5 assuming that happens

[@JimFaindel]

That opening skit by Liam felt like it belonged on narrative telephone. Bravo!

[@Usakachi]

Clicked on the video for the sweet lore. Was not expecting an interesting theater class at the start. I learned something new today.

[@writerofunimportantthings]

Me too

[@Cpt.Str4ng3]

Ja.

[@Pixiel711]

It gave my little English Major (with a ton of Shakespeare) heart such joy 💖

[@reneehoenicke4765]

Also, I hope we get something similar to this show, if not more 4-Sided Dive, in the future. I LOVE getting to hear their thought processes and behind the scenes tea about the characters and plots. Sometimes it can help clarify things I didn't fully understand in the game, which makes it even more fun and enjoyable. Love you guys, thanks for all the wonderful content!

[@jobyebye2237]

As a new critter, this experimentation is what hooked me to the show and, although I love the past campaigns, Bells Hells is by far my favorite! Love that Marisha won’t apologise for them taking risks because I know it attracted a new public, we’re not always vocal about so I’m saying it : thank you for that!

[@cabezadecerveza7635]

If you have watched all of campaign 2, then I can't truly see you as a new critter. You have already cut your teeth on the lore.

[@cabezadecerveza7635]

On the other hand it does sort of make me slightly cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs when I had that moment where it's like I can't talk to folks about this. I know the answers, but I can't say them.

[@chand911]

I don't understand how that could possibly be true. By any conceivable metric this is the worst campaign.

[@justshitpostingdontbmadokplzty]

​@@chand911because old fans have rose colored glasses, c3 is the best

[@fangzntalonz]

⁠@@chand911for you. It hasn’t been to my tastes the whole way through either, but that doesn’t make it better or worse than C1 or C2.

[@Coleth.3]

30:15 Me too Robbie!! I never understood how some people can actually see an apple when they close their eyes and imagine it!

[@Tilla00]

Same!

[@kylebolin1452]

Same here. Including the vivid dreams.

[@koji6745]

​@@kylebolin1452 how are yalls dreams?

[@verdugosilver3047]

It blows my mind that people don't visualize an actual apple. You learn something new every day

[@Coleth.3]

​@@koji6745 For me dreams are very sort and very vivid.

[@Coleth.3]

I'm feeling so sad that this show is coming to an end. It's always great when the cast sit down and discuss events of the game and 4 sided dive did that and more. It was intriguing and funny and included fan questions. I loved it all (C block included), so thank you cast and crew for all your hard work and I hope we'll get another version (or the same) for the next campaign.

[@exnihilogg5420]

can we please, for the LOVE OF GOD, KEEP ROBBIE DAYMOND!?!?! This guy just FITS. I have loved every single thing he has done related to CR specifically. PLEASE

[@writerofunimportantthings]

Seconded!

[@SunniBao]

wait no i love 4 sided dived and the stupid bits and the murdered c block and the constant gas leak energy BRING IT ALL BACK don’t gooooooooo

[@megbrady9233]

Hearing Robbie talk about how his mind works made me so happy because that’s exactly how my mind works too! It’s so hard to explain how it works so it’s so great to hear someone who just gets it

[@_Hollowstrix]

yeah me too!

[@trev0rrrr]

This is literally exactly what I felt. I don't feel like I can't understand or place myself but I just don't see it.

[@imjumokay]

5 minutes at the start just nerding out about Shakespeare and I loved every minute of it. Note iambic pentameter mimics English speech and other languages have their own poetic forms to mimic speech, such as Qene in Amharic or Saj' in Arabic.

[@bookmarkyourthoughtsblog]

Such a fun 4 Sided Dive! Y'all in the comments have so many great points and thoughts as well! 1. Robbie confirming that even though he's just loving life but it's always been Orym first made my day Like, I feel like many of us knew but it's beautiful to hear it confirmed. But knowing this makes me REALLY wish Dorian had stayed for ALL of C3 :( 2. I love the way Marisha talks about Keyleth at 1:54:00 . I never understood how people get so emotionally invested in their characters until I made one that is SUPER endearing but has a semi sad backstory. The DM decided to do a one shot where I see my main campaign character with her now deceased husband and I remember messaging my friend saying ... yo, this is the day my campaign character's husband dies. And living that moment made me cry so hard. I was like ... HOW COULD I HAVE DONE THIS TO THIS BEAUTIFUL CHARACTER I CREATED?! So it was really lovely how Marisha worded the bond you can really have with some of the characters you make in DnD. 3. I'm glad they brought up Beau lying to BH like the whole time lmfao! Bc I know people were saying Marisha was misremembering Beau's thoughts on Yasha but I legit thought in those moments, "Is Beau just spouting out whatever bc she doesn't trust BH so she doesn't care what they think?" 4. I REALLY want Robbie to stay for C4! He just meshes so well with the group! And I love how 2 different characters' of Liam and Robbie have a thing going on haha!

[@Alassandros]

I am dying for Laudna to get Magnificent Mansion and make it a Haunted House.

[@zvenlin]

Our thanks we give, for hosting us with glee, And entertain us, gracious, without fee.

[@guaco__taco]

Only 7 minutes in and this is already my favorite four-sided dive, and I already loved four-sided dive to begin with.

[@ChasingDeathbeds]

For those who keep making comments on how they don’t like the structure of how campaign 3 is handled, Remember Matt stated that having all campaigns merge has been a dream of his since he was in high school-to have played D&D long enough with the same group that he could make a connected universe This is HIS gift to himself after giving narrative gifts to his friends over 10yrs YOU may not like it but it’s THEIR WORLD, we are just humble guests getting to see them play out what THEY want

[@antiphon000]

Yeah, and that has absolutely no bearing on whether people can criticize the show. I literally do not care if God himself came down and said "Make this campaign", I can still dislike the way it's going.

[@tubeplunger]

"ITS THEIR SHOW" is ignoring the criticisms, that doesnt make it good.

[@mackenziebourdage1924]

I agree. I think people forget that they made this for themselves and that it started as a home game and that before they had this huge empire they always said that if people stoped liking it they’d just go back to the home game. Not to mention this might be the last major campaign they do dnd and even play a long term story in exandria for the near future.

[@tubeplunger]

@@mackenziebourdage1924 You can take any media and apply that argument for any criticism. It's a lazy argument and ignores the whole point of the criticism.

[@DavidDingoBleecher]

Bad take. They wanted to do a show for people that makes a profit. They could have kept a home game with no outside opinions, but they didn't. They made it public, and built a business around it. Criticism was not only inevitable, but is warranted. I will say that I enjoy Critical Role, as a whole, even if I heavily criticize aspects of it. Criticism is not hate.

[@Nickyjoet]

I can’t believe this campaign is coming to an end

[@transientanus]

It can't be over soon enough.

[@aussiegamer9668]

@@transientanus fr end this nightmare of a campaign

[@jonathanhibberd9983]

As someone who has watched since almost the very start of campaign 1, this has been my favorite by far. I'm not ready to see it end. 😭

[@alicebezu9840]

I relate to the stuff Robbie said about umderstanding and not seeing visuals in my head. Espeacially the vivid dreams part. I often have to draw somethimg to visualize it, so it becomes a real material object on paper. I never know its something particular, and that there is a word for it

[@sirephlyrrian6242]

Marisha did not have to serve this hard this episode, daymn

[@writerofunimportantthings]

I don't understand Iambic pentameter but the writer of the cold open and Liam are really good at it. It's almost mesmerizing.

[@annasim3651]

This is my first time being here for an end of a campaign as it's happening and idk what I'm gonna do 😭 I love them your honor

[@Sgtmini210]

33:36 I resonate so hard with what Robbie was saying here. I never really thought about explaining it in that way, but it is spot on. ❤ya Robbie!

[@beahootiful]

Robbie and Liam with the Shakespeare lesson. Wonderful!!!!

[@LadyElvan]

Even before I hit play, when I say Liam was opening it I said out loud "Oh, dear, here we go" He's amazing. :D

[@nm11111111able]

Phew...Marisha is breathtaking

[@cabezadecerveza7635]

To be fair it's well-known that the entire cast is beautiful

[@nm11111111able]

@cabezadecerveza7635 oh this is 100 percent facts!

[@zackzimmerman2460]

Wow Marisha is stunning in that dress

[@facetankhank]

Heck yeah. I like her look a lot better now too, since she gained a little more oomph! Real woman there.

[@AdmirableRedPanda]

Already a minute in and I'm hooked on wanting MORE LIAM SHAKESPEAREAN CRIT ROLE SPEECHES!

[@mitchellwelch9135]

5:50 love you guys… the poetic meter knowledge is on point. The true art is not dead.

[@pippastrelle]

✨Bells Hells forever✨What an amazing campaign. You always remember your first!

[@davesunhammer4218]

I started with The Mighty Nein. For me, the best season.

[@pippastrelle]

@davesunhammer4218 it's always where we start, eh? It's funny for me going to how episodic and guarded the M9 are but I truly love that all the campaigns feel meaningfully different. The BH have just been this amazing, LOTR-esque story of people fighting a battle so much bigger than them and how love compels people together for better and for worse. I've admittedly seen so much hate for liking C3, whenever people mention liking C3 it's always compared to C2, but I'm really excited to see how C4 is different and what new fans it draws in!

[@SilentObserver966]

ok that intro speach was freaking wonderful nice work art dad

[@tenkiforecast]

Oh my god, I've never seen someone else describe Aphantasia. I've *never* been able to visualize anything, it's one thing that made me struggle with a lot of media, books...so I'm happy to hear someone else having that kind of experience.

[@sheyethppns2940]

I am only in so far as Liam's masterful manipulations and mummeries, and I am laid low and longing for more litanies of his lavishment and loving of language arts...

[@klownservative3934]

Marisha referencing Cosmo Grimm was a secret announcement of more Candela Obscura content and no one will convince me otherwise.

[@alexisbroadwaylove8625]

I'll cry of happiness if it is! AND ROBBIE HAS A CANDELA HOODIE ON AS WELL!!

[@Alassandros]

I like how none of Marisha's mainline characters age (or age slowly).

[@Shikaku55]

me sitting here hearing Robbies Diagnosis of Aphantasia going "so thats what its called..." All I see is a black void, any imagery is back of the mind snapshots of moments i've seen an apple in tv shows or movies, but I can't maintain the image longer than a second.

[@Coilla85]

Never a 4-sided Dive anymore???? What??? I have loved it! The chaos, all the bits, the progression, Broomie! But most of all I loved that you guys just chilled and talked about what has happened in the campaign and the tought process behind it. I do hope in the future we'll get a similar kind of show again where we get to hear a bit behind the scene stuff and why characters did what they did

[@00009kuba]

Well it was chaotic while it lasted... Like jazz

[@sebastianevangelista4921]

C3 was the first campaign that I watched full episodes of and before that I kept up with clips and highlights videos, so it definitely holds some sentimental value to me. I got introduced to CR via Legend of Vox Machina, so I'm a more recent critter than others and therefore had this campaign to go along with. It's weird to think that we're near the end, but we will eventually get an animated adaptation and I can't wait.

[@kriscerosaurus]

Gonna miss this show. Sincerely hope we get something similar going forward. Behind the scenes/discussion stuff has always been something I love any chance we can get it, and it was so great to get cast just chatting about the show. Regardless, thanks for a great run! 🎶No way to lose when you’re havin’ this much fun🎶

[@bradseeker]

4sd has been great! although i do selfishly hope it branches into some off-season thing. the format of a few members from the group just, to use robbie's words, in a "long-form hangout" is too versatile to restrict to campaigns!

[@LBv666]

Marisha I love this colour on you!

[@ilapix333]

Liam= start with a tragedy recital= immediate like

[@writerofunimportantthings]

The corruption/fighting/Zimmnian kids story Lian mentioned would be an awesome spin off that i would totally love to see!

[@LoryK98]

Damn, if this truly is the final 4SD, I will miss it. Now I'm sad-HOLY BADONKADONGS MARISHA I AM LOOKING RESPECTFULLY

[@derrianarcher6555]

I for one hope this show continues in the next campaign

[@PancakeMonster359]

As a non-native English speaker, I enjoyed the iambic pentameter discussion so much. Language is fascinating!

[@mikekoloski]

Marisha looks Stunning

[@quintyss1290]

1:43:40 For me closure would be Keeleth conceiving Vax's child on their one night together. It would be an everlasting gift and a reminder that life is precious.

[@Muszka071]

For those not interested in theater stuff - they move to CR topic at 9:53

[@alexlund3739]

This cold open is 😍

[@magicalataj6168]

omg the opening gets me!

[@eris902]

Oooh! Cool to know Robbie has aphantasia like I do

[@darthbek]

This show is great just because I love listening to talk about things they love and take pride in what they create.

[@rancer119]

Liam's opening can just be its own clip, do it and make more money critters

[@XenoArby]

NPC who needs a sitcom: "Are you being served" style Pumat Sol.

[@Magizord]

Marisha's holiday dress is straight fire!

[@jonasgueldryriviere8123]

Omg that ending, happy for broomie but that was a lil scary

[@benjaminwindle6642]

My brother-in-law is that way, he doesn't see an apple when he tries to picture it in his mind. So that's pretty cool to know he has aphantasia as well.

[@TigerAceSullivan]

32:00 aphantasia!!!! i have it too. best way i can describe it in my (and it appears also robbies) case is like... imagine a tower pc turned on, with the application for viewing an image open and that image is loaded in memory and Comprehended... except the monitors off. so i cant actually See it. but i Know it, i metaphorically see it, but that one specific part of the "remembering" of an image in my brain doesnt work. funnily enough, i think this helps me construct /understand 3d spaces and movement in my mind; i love me some maps and distances.

[@TigerAceSullivan]

35:10 yes!!

[@tjnguyen8546]

@@TigerAceSullivan That's so cool! Meanwhile, I'm the exact opposite. If you tell me that a room is blue with tapestries on the wall and a fireplace, I'm fully visualizing the color blue, the thread of the tapestries, and the heat off the fireplace. If you tell me the room is 16 feet long before it turns into a corridor, I'm like, "Cool. Is that the length of, like, a pickup truck? A big rig? Give me something to visually compare it to."

[@TigerAceSullivan]

there are like, different forms of aphantasia, or different experiences i should say; not everyone with aphantasia is necessarily good with words/language or innately understanding 3d spaces, and i think there are other aspects to the mind that play a role? hard to say cause theres not a whole lot of in depth research quite yet, but i know its happening

[@TigerAceSullivan]

from what research i have seen, it may have something to do with how visual memories are stored and reactivated; for people who do not have aphantasia, it seems that certain parts of their brain that process the incoming information from the eyes actually activate in a very similar way when remembering an image: literally reconstructing the visual information in their mind. but that isnt the only part of the brain responsible for memory by a long shot; for some pertinent examples, language processing, spacial processing, and temporal processing are in different regions, so those "parts" of the memories formed tend to stick around better than visual information. theoretically. i could be Very wrong. just gotta wait for more research.

[@TigerAceSullivan]

​@@tjnguyen8546you can imagine down to that level of detail? thats so fascinating, especially thinking about how the fireplace would "feel"

[@Mu11ana]

Same, Robbie. I have aphantasia as well. Didn’t stop me from becoming a comic artist. I guess the vivid dreams even helped!

[@dingelle_]

I 100% relate to Robbie with not visualizing stuff. I get the concept or scene, but I don't see it when I imagine it.

[@writerofunimportantthings]

Same

[@cabezadecerveza7635]

I'm not going to lie I was counting the minutes to when they actually started talking about the show. While it was highly amusing I was like wow how long can they do this?

[@ianlavalley1803]

Please make robbie a regular member

[@DreamEngine707]

Robbie Daymond and I imagine things the same way you are not alone Robbie! 😅

[@davesunhammer4218]

The age thing... I went for 2 years saying I was 1 year older than I was. I was so shocked when I discovered I had been doing it. Just mind blown. I actually have to calculate it sometimes. Fortunately I turned 35 in 2000 so it doesn't take to long. Glad to hear it wasnt just me.

[@JonathanMcKinnell]

I think this show is great. Anybody who doesn't is just way to serious in life. D&D shouldn't be serious, and the conversations we have about it shouldn't be either! Thanks Dani! Thanks Kyle! and thanks Marisha

[@antiphon000]

This is such a horrible, horrible take. The beauty of D&D is that real emotions can be explored while in a fantasy universe. The reason people liked the show in the first place was that they got emotionally invested in the story. To say what you've said completely undermines everything they've achieved to this point. Also, just because you have criticism of media doesn't mean you're incapable of having fun.

[@DavidDingoBleecher]

The biggest flop in the Mighty Nein fight was Caduceus's Divine ask. One round of vulnerability is WAY too small an ask for that kind of spell. You're directly asking a god for an intervention. Since it was close to the beginning of the fight, a much better ask would have been immunity to a damage type, and make that damage type psychic, for the group. Or, since it was crystals, ask for a huge AOE shatter spell. But, vulnerability for a single round was a waste of that ask.

[@bigsarge2085]

What a fun ride.

[@nitsuj3117]

Yooooo I learned what Iambic Pentameter is, what a great Christmas GIft Critical Role

[@beahootiful]

Marisha, your dress is awesome!

[@connerdemonte8863]

Thanks for always posting the content that I can look forward to during unprecedented times. Love you all.

[@Cpt.Str4ng3]

If back to the future ever gets a remake.liam must play doc brown. I will die on that hill.

[@TheyCallMeCarg]

What's odd to me is that when they're all talking at the end about their character's attitudes on the role of the gods and what they're going to do... of course the brunt of the decision will pivot on how Exandria will be affected, and more intimately how they and their loved one will be affected by their decisions, but one word I've never heard from anyone is "deicide". Once of their decisions poses a significant risk of an extinction level event for a sentient race of super-entities, and they have to consider their responsibility to that decision. Is it even theirs to make, and by what right? "The gods" are no more a threat to Exandria than every other sentient race on the planet, except perhaps in terms of scale of agency. Sure, they've talked to a few, but not all of them, and even then, you don't (or at least shouldn't) get to decide the ultimate fate of a population by committee.

[@robcnp6757]

Now that's an intro!

[@karmathegolden]

This better not be the last 4 sided dive Maybe they'll change the name but pls keep the format

[@webers28]

ROBBIE, I RELATE!

[@tjnguyen8546]

Loving all the Vax x Keyleth love, they're my ship!!!

[@Kei-jx7hf]

ayyyyy high fives for all the folks with aphantasia, especially the ones who heard this word here for the first time - there's a lot of us! Before I know this word I tended to say I simply did not have "mind's eyes", my eyes can only see what my actual eyes are seeing. Also, similar to a lot a-something labels, for the longest time I thought it was exaggeration / metaphor / a figure of speech not based in reality whenever folks said they "saw" something their eyeballs did not see. Still think it's really weird that people can visually make up stuff :p (while obviously it's perfectly normal to not do that and just ~know~ where stuff is in imagined space)

[@knol800]

I'm not sure Shakespeare could have done better. Bravo!

[@Sandsquid21]

Wait… is what Marisha saying around the 2:20:00-2:30:00 mark indicating the end of 4 sided dive as a whole?! Or just for the year’s end? Because I love this show and want many more episodes of it.

[@Coleth.3]

This is the last 4 sided dive as a whole unfortunately.

[@Sandsquid21]

@ oh man, that’s absolute hot garbage! Thank you for letting me know though

[@edelan]

I think that Robbie is the second-best thing that happened to the Critical Role, the first thing being the creation of Critical Role

[@sveltsequoia74]

I totally relate to Robbie with conceptualization

[@canucklehead9250]

"Marisha is a tokie" okay? 😂 I'm there with you

[@Mark-ki7ic]

Plastic Santa is in the fireplace

[@wit6665]

loving Marishas dress so dang cute.

[@dylanheisroth415]

I also don’t see things in my mind. I just understand what they are

[@cabezadecerveza7635]

Okay Rob we made a very interesting comment. Let's face facts Matthew is constantly calculating whose turn is it next I'm just giving them a kind little reminder. I think this is why the game moves quickly

[@Pixiel711]

Hey Robbie, my husband (also a Robbie/Robin) has aphantasia and he wants you to know he considers it normal 😬 it works out great because I am the opposite end of the spectrum so I get to tell him where everything in the house and barn and the farm in general goes as I can mentally rearrange things, but I hate doing math unless I can picture it in my head, but he’s great with it, so he does all the finances.

[@jessiechen279]

Damn....👏👏👏 That's an Intro..... Could listen to liam all day

[@SusanBinks]

Thank You

[@dire4280]

When they mention Dorian X Orym

[@igorbarros1311]

35:00 I relate Robie hahah

[@poobd]

i miss it already

[@noahholland1795]

COYG - feel better Mr. McN.

[@MagashiSaizen]

To the cast's point @ 13:29 especially Liam, last birthday I thought I was celebrating my 37th, two weeks later I realized I was 36th instead...Lmao

[@biggbill72]

3:06 Liam said this is the last episode for campaign 3, does that mean the campaign is ending after the moon stuff???

[@TempestLM]

Seemed pretty obvious it's at it's climax. And they most likely already pre-recorded the end

[@halfwaybrooks4202]

Not that this is a sure source but in a broadcast one of the mods said they still record Thursday day of for the most part. Not sure if they would know/ since they no longer have to don't see why they would only shoot Thursdays. But on the 3rd hand maybe thier used to Thursday for scheduling reasons?

[@antiphon000]

I mean. Yeah. 3 more episodes, max.

[@punctualwizard]

Guys, why am I hearing Amy Grant’s 1991 classic “I will remember you”??? 😢

[@JABO95SA]

No... it's too soon! 😢 That being said... I would sacrifice a grape if it meant we get a camping in the shattered teeth

[@Caitsaysthings]

Hey does anyone know if robbie intends to join the group again for campaign 4? i have absolutely adored him ever since he joined in EXU and i just cant imagine the future of CR without him.