What Caitlin Clark proved vs. LSU, Angel Reese postgame: 'I've been through so much' | WBB | SPEAK

Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones react to Iowa's revenge win against LSU, then discuss what Caitlin Clark proved in her 41-point performance, along with Angel Reese's postgame comments saying quote: 'I've been through so much' when reflecting on her off-court experiences.
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What Caitlin Clark proved vs. LSU, Angel Reese postgame: 'I've been through so much' | WBB | SPEAK
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[@Yahoshua24]

Caitlyn Jenner is a man! why won't they say it.

[@therealresurrected7822]

GOATS WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS, RIGHT BRO?👋🏿💍🔔

[@robertorenteria1350]

Joy is an idiot

[@user-gy2xh1sp9s]

WRONG about the IA team - they are ALL STELLAR and bada---.

[@user-gy2xh1sp9s]

And Clark met the historic moment - THAT is the thing of it.

[@Goodzz]

Joy: “ Why is she the villain?” Fellas: She called herself that Joy: “ Who made her the villain?” Fellas: She did. She said she was. Joy: “Someone made her the villain!” Fellas: She did. 😂😂

[@jmoney6043]

Joy is such a joke 😂

[@danielg1291]

That's swell Joy.

[@1inchpunisher715]

The fellas 😂

[@Yahoshua24]

caitlyn jenner is aman.

[@jordantrejo9776]

They made her the villain after last year when she beat CC and taunted her after the game. But CC did it no one said anything but when a black girl does it…

[@nonbiasedreviews001]

"What does draymond do that's extra?" Joy was not in her bag on this one lol

[@MrTastycakez]

Imagine being compared to the habitual nut kicker because you taunt?

[@Moneymarr215]

Joy needed some smelling sauce after KO'ing herself on that one! Lol

[@randomupdates4013]

Joy is starting to be a character as much as Skip Bayless. Takes and personality exaggerated now, not genuine

[@clmrchris]

Joy definitely took an L on this one

[@majestic2858]

Angel Reese is beating folks up on court like draymond green now 😹😹😹 y’all are crazy

[@3ricegr3at]

This is real life merging with sports. I’ve been with my wife for 10+ years and I can’t remember her ever apologizing for anything 😂😂😂. Accountability is an issue .

[@threestar3542]

That's darn down right there they women never ever apologize apology is a man thing we apologize even when we are right 😂😂😂

[@LKS-M9323]

​@threestar3542 never apologize when you are right simply say it's unfortunate you feel that way 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@marcusaurelius5149]

Accountability is kryptonite to women.

[@turkturkleton2671]

Joy is out of line acting like men arent constantly criticized in how they act as winner and losers. Thats half of sports media, the other half is the scores and stats

[@timesfly1081]

I could tell buy the way she was giving Shady the side eye that she was gonna try to defend angel for bring both the villain and a crybaby

[@LeroyLegacy]

No one is gonna love every athlete. Look at Lebron he has people who hate him. Tom Brady absolutely got haters, and itsnnot like he's getting into any antics off the field. Haters just come with greatness. They hate watch. They wanna witness when you fail. It not even that big of a deal. But I guess cause it's Angel Reese it's different somehow.

[@dandaman8572]

Basically what joy did was try to make it men’s fault. That’s what I got out of it. That was a victim role Angel played and she wouldn’t have done it if she had won

[@marcusaurelius5149]

Accountability is kryptonite to women.

[@juiceman_3]

Joy REALLY said “What does Draymond do that’s extra”?!?! She’s dying on a hill for nothing

[@jamessullivan83]

She was trying to make a point that what he does is over the top.

[@rgb2219]

she meant what does he do thats extra in the space of taunting. draymond is a dirty player but i havent seen him taunt. staring at someone is not extra but ok

[@jamessullivan83]

@rgb2219 she was talking about why he's viewed as a villain. It's not the taunting it's being a dirty player. You can say what you want about Angel, Clark or whoever, but they aren't dirty. They just taunt folks. Draymond plays dirty and gets thrown out fairly often.

[@dadillonful]

She’s so woke and delusional

[@nicholasmallard2926]

I was about to say has she watched Draymond at all?😂

[@squalie9]

Joy expected the guys to take her side just because angel is black. The truth is the truth.

[@redmanjohnson4616]

Lol Right...

[@Yahoshua24]

Joy is correct. Joy has a more balanced conversation and james made some good points re Reese.

[@squalie9]

@@Yahoshua24 joy is dead wrong. Not everything can be boiled down to "buh...buh... they are black!"

[@rollinstonemoula9689]

Reese neva complained about being Judge on tha court... Reese is talking about ppl coming at OUTSIDE of Basketball 😎

[@a2knyc]

the tears were not cause of the loss - they were in response to the words of her teammates' support. she didn't come up with excuses. Angel didn't offer the statements. she was asked and she answered.

[@MrSoulauctioneer]

Coach Bluder deserves a fair amount of the credit for Iowa and Caitlyn's success. She knows the team's strengths and its her leadership that gave SC their only loss in two years. Caitlyn didnt do it alone.

[@hawaiianhonu97]

It’s interesting to me that noooobody talks about Coach Bluder. When they refer to Iowa it’s just CC or Iowa but when they refer to SC they say Staley’s team

[@blackcurlmagicgrey-sloan8640]

What joy doesn’t understand is it doesn’t matter who made her the villain, she probably embraced it until it didn’t work for her

[@jayr.2709]

She COMPLETELY Embraced, Engulfed and Fueled it to millions! Then cried alligator tears when it didn't work for her. Accountability.

[@phillipyoung4025]

Finally, and actual black queen with some sense. Thank you ma'am.

[@coreybkguy1372]

That's exactly what happened

[@TyroneGrinada]

She never embraced it. It was all media driven.

[@phillipyoung4025]

@@TyroneGrinada She literally called herself a villian

[@knownasbd]

Joy says she not gonna play the race and gender game and proceeds to do it 😂😂

[@89kanein]

She said that sarcastically because that type of thinking is near impossible to actually have any kind of legitimacy. Hence the sarcasm. Come on dog keep up.

[@delacybeasley8785]

because in reality it's a factor. As usual Reese is the one that has to shut up and be quiet.

[@chrisfuller2069]

@@delacybeasley8785 Nobody is telling Reese to shut up. We are merely reacting to what she says and does. You are creating a boogeyman in your head to fight. And you are attempting to shame people into only saying positive things about Reese. Very passive aggressive of you.

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

@@delacybeasley8785You can’t get cocky, arrogant and start talking all that mess and then once you get humbled you wanna cry and play the victim

[@CoachLen25]

@@delacybeasley8785no one said shut up and be quiet. They just said don’t whine or cry after a loss

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

“You painted the bullseye on your back so why are you surprised when people shoot at you”

[@HawgWyldFishing]

💯

[@deedelta9263]

*BARS!*

[@andreoates8405]

Swag cost💯🥴 you might not like it being real

[@101CamourTv]

Because they shot at the target because she was black.

[@eduardovelasquez3420]

@@101CamourTvbro she crowns herself before each game 😂 no one else is doing that

[@ishmael_03]

Acho, McCoy and James said it like it is: If you're going to play the villain, don't play victim after you lose Angel Reese!

[@davidgori4500]

Too bad Acho backpedaled.

[@BoosterGoldEarth6]

No Shady had the best take. Acho lead with some BS

[@uluckout1]

This is for you Joy…. She’s “authentically” a “fake villain” 😂😂😂

[@xchiro1818]

Not enough credit is being given to the rest of the Iowa squad. All of those Clark assists don't just happen by accident. They run coach Bluder's game plans to perfection. And those rare games where Caitlin is "off," her teammates step up. Gabby Marshall, Kate Martin, Sydney Affolter... all are legit 3-point threats.

[@risingphoenix1484]

Accountability is a woman’s kryptonite.

[@risingphoenix1484]

@@fwkira864 who raised you? A single mother?

[@achhkay4229]

Samuels

[@fwkira864]

@@risingphoenix1484 ur insecure with ur relationship with ur mother, probably white jumping up and down over a college game, i like clark more if that makes u feel better keep using alts to like comments, fami been cooked u LOOL UR A GIANTS FAN

[@fwkira864]

@@risingphoenix1484 Economics, Finance, and Investing get a job

[@fwkira864]

@@risingphoenix1484 yap yap

[@chrisfuller2069]

Joy kept arguing a point that they never made. They didn't say Angel Reese can't play the bad guy role.

[@anthonyholley2796]

The three Uncle Tom's miss the point altogether because Angel wasn't crying because she lost the game , she was crying with emotional gratitude from her teammates giving her such high praises!! They twist the story concerning her tears!!

[@Lanier-ry5yy]

I completely agree with this comment

[@FATMANSCOOP88]

Literally nobody has ever talked about joy as a villain, or talked about joy in any capacity lol

[@mikem4481]

they used to talk about how hot she was until she hit the wall and got fhat. then she opened her mouth and we dont even talk about that.

[@AyeAyeRon11]

Joy that was absolutely pathetic!!!Quit making excuses for Angel Reese behavior!!! She absolutely made herself the villain and embraced all the hate as long as she won. Yeah it’s easy to be the winning villain!! but she showed she can’t be the villain when she’s losing too and that’s weak. I’m so tired of that unapologetically garbage too. “I’m unapologetically me, BUT I want you all to apologize to me of you’re mean to me.” If LSU would’ve won that game it would’ve been an all time cringe fest from LSU. I’m tired of them saying “these are kids too.” They’re NOT KIDS!!! They are grown adults in college!!! Joy you ARE part of the problem!!!

[@CoachLen25]

Joy is living under a rock in this subject. Reese accepted the criticism and wanted to be the villain cuz she made money and popularity off of it. She self proclaimed it!!!! Don’t cry after you lose

[@TheMaddBlackMann]

Caitlyn was talking just as much trash. The hands in the face taunt was Caitlyns signature taunt. This is why Angel did it. Funny how racist like you forget this

[@dmacdm88]

@@TheMaddBlackManncaitlyn didn't do it in people's face. Most of the time she just looks into the crowd and screams or does a hand signal or something. That's what the hate is about. Angel followed Caitlyn all over the court trying to do that signal in her face multiple times. That's where the villain role came from. If Angel was emotional and cheered toward the crowd or her own teammates it would be different.

[@2legit2quitkc55]

Did Caitlin cry after her loss at the podium HECK NAW we seen her hurt but she pushed thru giving props to LSU

[@TheMaddBlackMann]

@@dmacdm88 stop it. Caitlyn did the taunt regularly and Angel returned the favor and became a villain to white America who wanted to crown Caitlyn last year. So this year millions of non women’s basketball fans showed up to hate Angel. Even the LA Times called them names. All has to do with racism yet people like you will deny it.

[@heygringo7]

@@2legit2quitkc55 facts

[@brumph7256]

I knew Joy was bothered….you could hear it in her voice…😂😂😂

[@leonardobraynen1524]

Joy can eat a diq bro

[@Rascool69]

I could tell by her face before they even went to her. Smh

[@kurosanyasuke8236]

You could tell she related to Reese in this situation.

[@work4whatyouwant477]

She should be bothered. She first hand lives the experience of having to deal with weirdos on a daily basis

[@drewtru7220]

@@work4whatyouwant477 can you like articulate what you said and what you mean

[@XRP-MOON]

Shady said it best. Her game is not elite like Caitlin but she’s getting attention and paid like Caitlin and that’s because of her behavior and attitude in and out of the game. You elevated yourself to star status by being the self proclaimed villain. You’re winning, take the bad with the good

[@bruceellis3167]

Clark got killed by the Morris girl in the second half for 20 something and LSU beat them for a chip, Reese is a post player who got boards and points I believe she broke a double double record last year and still doing the same thing but she is not elite 17 and 20 championship last year stop the bad takes

[@XRP-MOON]

@@bruceellis3167 she’s not elite. She has size. It is what it is. Go listen to interviews with WNBA players. Reeses game isn’t going to translate well at the higher level, but they think Clarks will. LSU has a better team than Iowa, that’s why they won last year. Nobody is talking about Reese being anywhere close to as good as Clark. And they never will.

[@sheLuvsManny]

@@bruceellis3167 never talk basketball stats again old head

[@williamnavarro7484]

Villains don't cry. "We played well, the game plan was solid but Iowa made more plays." That's all you have to say.

[@jimmiemccoy6167]

If the girl from Iowa did the same thing joy would be tearing her apart ever time we talk about female sports every preaches about equality but when it comes to giving harsh critique no no give me a break

[@xavierb9061]

Steph curry dancing n doing night night is not a villain..stop

[@johnrickles3378]

​@@xavierb9061Steph Curry is a 🤡

[@coolwiz7994]

😂😂😂😂 Steph curry is where your mind goes when you think of Angel Reese?!?! 😂😂😂😂

[@101CamourTv]

You must be white.?

[@Mboooo216]

She wouldn’t have and there wouldn’t have been any backlash in the first place.

[@stormbringa22]

This segment just shows men and women are differents and we need to accept it.

[@reidx512]

THANK YOU AND I AM ALL FEMALE-GIRLY GIRL, from way back, there is a difference.

[@FlvckoAnt]

The thing is though I am a man but I understand what Joy was trying to say. She didn’t explain it well at all though lol. Since the national championship, ppl been painting Angel as this classless villain who has no sportsmanship, just because she trash talks. That is something most athletes do. That doesn’t give ppl the right to attack her personally. Ppl send her death threats, they even used AI to make nude photos of her. That’s not something you should have to accept just because you talk trash during a basketball game.

[@stormbringa22]

@FlvckoAnt I do understand, brother. But she welcomed all the hatred as long as she wins. That's the only problem. She should keep the same energy in a loss, too. This is how you silent critics. Now, she has given more ammunition to her detractors to come after her. She should have kept strong after a loss. That's all I'm saying

[@FlvckoAnt]

@@stormbringa22 well she broke down because of what Flaujae said about her. They were asked a question and they answered it

[@leonardobraynen1524]

Mos def dude

[@denisako6493]

Our own reaction towards her is also unapologetic

[@IncreaseMatter]

Shady had me ROLLING!!!!!!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

[@reese44622]

You love that she's unapologetic. But then when She loses and she gets it back unapologetically. She doesn't like it. And I'm supposed to be sympathetic.

[@soda8736]

The problem with saying you're unapologetic you blah blah blah, then you feel like you cant be critized and you are shunning growth.

[@perrywashup5168]

Not at all dish it you got to take it

[@JohnJohn-fe6yc]

She's a sore loser and an even sorer winner. She wants to do whatever she wants, when she wants but then gets shocked when people react negatively. like ok.

[@mariopippin3008]

its called grace!🙄

[@Laura-xh8yu]

Umm, she didn't say anything negative about the game or Iowa. Her feedback for them was very positive. She's tired of death threats.

[@risingphoenix1484]

Joy taking all types of L’s in this segment

[@benjaminbabus6466]

Brain dead … she only has one thing on her brain

[@quirinogarza7381]

Joy taking L's to the face 😂

[@brennenjones6658]

I understood what she was trying to say but I was glad when James shut her up, lol. She just likes arguing with Shady the most, but I love her for that.

[@jctslice]

​@@brennenjones6658 or agreeing lol. They're either going at it heavy or agreeing heavy 😂

[@brennenjones6658]

@@jctslice 😂😂😂

[@joshromero-burgan9860]

Angel seemed to fully embrace being the villain till its now not working 🤷‍♂️

[@billbrochocki296]

AMAZING HOW THAT HAPPENS!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@christianrodriguez3637]

Joy is in her feelings! The difference between men and women is most men talk trash and when they lose they take the L. But for whatever reasons, a woman talks trash and loses, we need to be more sympathetic? Whatever happened to women want to be treated like men, as equals? Or they just want the benefits, but none of the repercussions?

[@chaddon7685]

Dillon Brooks is a perfect example. We responded to him EXACTLY the same way.

[@wlane2384]

Exactly

[@SkitReactions]

JOY, get out your feelings! YOU can't effectively talk sports in your feelings.

[@briangosvener651]

Joy is a woman after all. A brilliant woman most of the time.. but still a woman

[@reidx512]

and she is so good for that.... I think it is because some man hurt her and that is wrong. Nobody should ever inflict harm or violence on anyone. Maybe all of this is bringing up bad stuff for her--- but she is still wrong about the Angel thing....

[@kurosanyasuke8236]

All of a sudden she in her feelings naw bruh she speaking real and people like you is proving her point

[@williamwatkins2538]

@@kurosanyasuke8236but she’s not speaking “real” she’s making excuses.

[@mimusic1853]

@@williamwatkins2538real in the way her brain works

[@podawe8051]

There's a big difference between celebrating and being a little cocky and actively antagonizing and trying to humiliate your opponents.

[@erikbergfeldt4007]

I play a lot of boardgames with my nephew and my friends kids, and what I always say is: If you taunt people you have to be able to take it when someone gets you back. Don't pretend you're a big dog barking when you win, only to shy away and whimper when you loose. They are in their early teens now and they get it.

[@tone9016]

1. That was a national championship game not a dumb board game. 2. She's a woman so of course she cried.

[@daveduke2371]

Moral of the story- don’t give it if you can’t take it.

[@stevenjohnson7442]

👏🏻👏🏼👏🏻👏🏼👏🏻

[@reidx512]

I am old, but that is what they taught us when we were kids...lol

[@deenice7022]

I'm confused. She didn't give any death threats yet she received them

[@mikedison7081]

When did she threaten anybody?

[@daveduke2371]

@@deenice7022 she told everyone she wanted to be the villain. This is what comes with that. Doesn’t make it right, just makes it so.

[@jays8664]

Joy stop making excuses for her she got famous of that persona and made millions of it.

[@achhkay4229]

Facts and angel is average

[@Yahoshua24]

Joy is absolutely correct.

[@jamesorr4445]

Talk s.... but now whimpering

[@a2knyc]

She was famous for her play. Not the trash talking.

[@animeanime7849]

@@jamesorr4445she didn’t say that because she lost, she said that because people were sexualizing her, being racist, and sending death threats. Why are people being intentionally dense

[@jeffwing8083]

If the Iowa girls did what Reese does, wave the fingers in their face, wave goodby after fouling out, yell at the opposing coach, they'd have been crucified and demonized. Instead they showed dignity and class, traits Reese doesn't appear to possess.

[@SuperRoshua]

I actually think this was a great segment across the board, and worthy of future discussion.

[@roswel777]

Ain't no way Joy took this route!!! Reese just need to stand on being what she said she is. To make this a gender thing is a sad cop out!!!

[@Rcc2269]

Agreed, Joy is usually on point. Her take here was not it, disappointing.

[@lilmoepal]

It’s expected, the black card was dying to be used

[@FlvckoAnt]

I understand what Joy was trying to say. She didn’t explain it well at all though lol. Since the national championship, ppl been painting Angel as this classless villain who has no sportsmanship, just because she trash talks. That is something most athletes do. That doesn’t give ppl the right to attack her personally. Ppl send her death threats, they even used AI to make nude photos of her. That’s not something you should have to accept just because you talk trash during a basketball game.

[@antonioartemus7739]

@@FlvckoAntbro how many celebrities get death threats . Like legit everybody bro . She was so called sexualized but she did that photo shoot with a swim suit bro everything that happend to her happend because of her actions . The death threats I’m not making excuses for it but if every celebrity opened up their dms they’d see at least 5-50 death threats . Stop making excuses

[@kentmains7763]

A woman will never hold another woman accountable.

[@js77z]

That's not true 😂

[@koriburgess1239]

I will, but I hear ya!

[@RB-.-]

Unless they're more attractive and successful than them. Then watch the venom come out 🤣

[@leonardobraynen1524]

*NEVER!!!!* TRUTH & FACTS! Wont do it publically

[@Lanier-ry5yy]

Comment of the Year!

[@demean2798]

Acho, Angel Reese didnt paint herself a Villain, she was born Black, and you pulled a Candace Owens on her, nice pink outfit Candace.

[@jessebenitez4840]

Joy is absolutely wrong 😂

[@kingslayer2152]

Thanks James. I can’t stand it when people try to play the gender card in these situations 🤨

[@everestarmstrong7053]

Gender matters. We live in a society where people have different expectations because of gender, race, etc. it cuts both ways but it matters

[@enigma13ff]

@@everestarmstrong7053 Taking trash is not a girl or guy thing, if you talk trash you should be able to receive it as well.

[@gnarlieybrown4214]

​@@enigma13ffye, that's easy enough to say and all... But it's weird that no One else is expected to abide by these criteria! It's a lot of emotions just in this comment section😂😂 why Angel somehow supposed to be above human??

[@enigma13ff]

@@gnarlieybrown4214 If you mean the 99.9% of the 8 billion people on earth, the same pound Rodgers, Harden, Caleb, Lebron, ect? Right or it's just her? There is a crybaby segment everyday about the Cowboys. Stop it.

[@enigma13ff]

@@gnarlieybrown4214 It's a two way street, you talk trash you have to accept people talking trash to you. There is a reason coaches don't put down other coaches, there is a reason QBs don't put down other QBs. The biggest trash talkers talk because they can back it up. Don't talk trash for your career then get mad when people say things about you. Thats the issue. Stop acting like she is the only one.

[@daylearceneaux4083]

You put Clark on that LSU team and they’re undefeated and winning by double digits every night

[@Justin-gg6hw]

Who’s rebounding? And what the other star guards gonna do

[@TheTGLife]

@@Justin-gg6hwwho’s doing that for her on Iowa? 😆

[@mzbatonrougebeauty5267]

​@@Justin-gg6hwReese is top rebounder

[@Realdannongreen]

Exactly

[@Zay0321]

Yall gotta remember angel Reese has a chip lol

[@marcusaurelius5149]

Joy: "I take it as a badge of honor when I say things people don't like." You call it a 'badge of honor.' To the rest of us it's a dunce cap.

[@user-zd7ko1ei3k]

Caitlin Clark is the only athlete who won the James E Sulivan Award for two consecutive years in the award's 94-year history. Almost impossible to beat.

[@user-bx2vk1rw5n]

Acho calls it fair. He never gets involved with race, politics, or personal biases. Just calls it at face value. Wish more commentators would follow his lead.

[@TennisBoy2017]

He & James are the only 2 with a brain in the show.

[@soda8736]

He has a show called , " uncomfortable conversation with a black man".

[@melanatedgod7604]

Be Fake?

[@lapx1]

Anyone that uses unapologetic is a fool and a denier of sin

[@gnarlieybrown4214]

​@@soda8736yep and it was just as counterproductive as every segment he covers here😂😂 move on..

[@PastorTrue93]

I feel like Joy thought she had an argument & realized halfway through it didn’t make sense. But it was too late so she had to stand on it lol

[@josephsutherland-qy5pw]

That is the story most of the time for her

[@FlvckoAnt]

I understand what Joy was trying to say. She didn’t explain it well at all though lol. Since the national championship, ppl been painting Angel as this classless villain who has no sportsmanship, just because she trash talks. That is something most athletes do. That doesn’t give ppl the right to attack her personally. Ppl send her death threats, they even used AI to make nude photos of her. That’s not something you should have to accept just because you talk trash during a basketball game.

[@acegohard4731]

That’s how it is with every argument with women.

[@locario13]

In my son's school basketball team one of the best player likes showboating everytime he makes a basket. Once the team is loosing this kid pulls selfflops, drops on the floor pretending he got injured and starts to cry. I see the similarity with Angel Reese here.

[@tone9016]

Not the same at all

[@coreydavenport6939]

How does joy have a job… bad take after bad take. It’s infuriating to watch when the rest of the show is so good

[@randomupdates4013]

Joy and her “nuance” seems confused. Clark never did the “you can’t see me” gesture to a specific person. Reese followed her on court to find her, and do it to her specifically. Big difference, and glad the guys didn’t buckle opinion to Joy being pretty. That gets old.

[@nateword]

THANK YOU...i wish everyone could see this

[@Kevinschart]

Angela is allowed to trash talk, and the rhetoric about her trash talking was wrong last year. But I'm not about to pretend that what Clark did was the same as Angela chasing Caitlin around the court after winning the championship.

[@Wubzz]

I can’t believe I’m finally agreeing with Emmanuel Acho

[@alanfortune3092]

Me either, he's a gas bag! But he's definitely right on this one!

[@Cheema3]

My first time ever as well 😂

[@robindevily9182]

Right lol

[@gnarlieybrown4214]

I can't see how this is a comment

[@haroldbottom3474]

I guess you're like angel reese but at least you just woke up....

[@BrandiFaulkner-mc3ms]

Not everyone gets millions of dollars for being that unapologetic black female athlete either. She wanted to embrace it, she has benefitted from it, she has continued to act hard and be the same person… until Iowa put it on LSU

[@al1383]

Respect ✊️ gentlemen

[@ryanquiatchon2435]

Lesean McCoy's take on the Reese embracing the villain role is spot on. She is a grown woman she must have know that embracing the role would bring her more notoriety and with that comes the negative more people rooting against you. The Floyd Mayweather effect that he describes towards the end of the segment perfectly sums it up. McCoy is right you wanted all the smoke you all big and bad when your winning and knocking teams out the tournament, have to keep that same energy when you loose.

[@FlvckoAnt]

I understand what Joy was trying to say. She didn’t explain it well at all though lol. Since the national championship, ppl been painting Angel as this classless villain who has no sportsmanship, just because she trash talks. That is something most athletes do. That doesn’t give ppl the right to attack her personally. Ppl send her death threats, they even used AI to make nude photos of her. That’s not something you should have to accept just because you talk trash during a basketball game.

[@ryanquiatchon2435]

@@FlvckoAnt I never said she deserved it but it comes with the teritory of of being a public figure and social media she is not the first person or the last that will experience this it is the Pitfalls of modern day. People back then didn't have to worry about it. There was another Fox Personality that dived into this subject and said either develop a thicker skin to handle it like other athletes or people in the spotlight deal with it or do what Nick Wright said log off social media if it becaomes to much.

[@CheneNri]

@@FlvckoAntThank you. I feel like different people have ways of trash talking to each other and some people don’t draw a line in the sand about what to taunt about and what not to taunt about when trying to throw off an athlete’s game. Trash about her playing style or how another player is capable of beating her in a game instead of sending saying nasty comments about her body or skin color.

[@marvinmj7075]

She not a grown woman..she just paid like one

[@ryanquiatchon2435]

@@marvinmj7075 she is 21 years of age she is old enough to drink , vote and get into the military. At what age does a person become a grown woman?

[@5starathlete804]

You can tell Joy exasperated when she had her left hand on her hip like that 😂😂

[@walkerenterprise1764]

I thought she was about to hit James with the "child PLEASE".

[@dalebruno5201]

It’s very simple BE HUMBLE and your good.

[@QuestionEverything562]

James Jones absolutely nailed the truthful points after Joy's lil fake outrage take. Angel brought it on herself. Angel wanted to be the villain, and nobody respects or has sympathy for a crying villain.

[@ILoveGod320]

Proud of these black men for not CAPING. SALUTE FELLAS

[@SocialDrones]

🦝🦝🦝🦝

[@BLegit2100]

🦝🦝🦝🦝

[@melvinjonesjr1091]

What!!! All three of them was dancing a whole jig on national tv.

[@ILoveGod320]

@@melvinjonesjr1091nah all 3 didn’t take the bait and come to her defense. They stayed solid.

[@FatherDIVINE.]

😂😂😂😂that emoji tho chilllll lol​@@BLegit2100

[@smellanalan]

Goodness Joy…. i rarely come to this page and here you are making me have another 3 month hiatus

[@Danielw354]

Same she was just yapping 😂

[@anthonyholley2796]

Bye ,because we need truth-tellers not blinded falsehood tellers!

[@dadillonful]

😂😂😂

[@kurosanyasuke8236]

The best on the show is JJ…but truthfully they all be on some BS sometimes. We need the old ESPN back!!!

[@phillipyoung4025]

If we can't blame people for being unapologetic, then we can unapologetically stand on our statements.

[@gunner2570]

Thank you Acho and Shady for you said regarding Angel Reese's villain-ness. And with all due respect to Joy's take, she's wrong! Angel brought all of the criticism onto herself. When she was winning she was always very high and quite ready to stick it into the face of people. Sometimes those people deserved it. But a LOT of times, they didn't. When Caitlin lost last year, she was asked about the Angel taunting her and her teammates. Caitlin's response was NOTHING BUT CLASS. That is why she is beloved. It isn't because she is white. And Angel being treated as the villain is black. It's how each person has handled SUCCESS!!! Angel got her vitriol from people because of how she and her teammates decided to carry themselves. Even up to the start of the game! The Iowa teammates were out on the court during the national anthem, holding hands. The LSU team was in the locker room, segregating themselves from not just the world, but giving the middle finger to everyone while doing it. LSU could have always endeared themselves to the country and given due respect to the country, the fans, and their opponent, but they DECIDED not to. Those are the FACTS. People are LOVING Caitlin and the Iowa team for how they have handled defeat AND how they have handled success. That is a basic life lesson. Lastly, I'll say this about Joy's comments. People DO criticize MALE villains. We dog them whenever we see them. And if they do it over and over and over, we forever vilify them. We dogged the Bad Boys for DECADES after their loss Chicago. The difference between the Bad Boys and Angel Reece is that the Bad Boys NEVER ACTED LIKE A PUNK VICTIM AND CRIED!!!

[@deliliankramo7520]

Bruh Joy is tripping. People like Joy and Angel Reese are the same women that wanna be treated like men where they are the winners and as soon as they lose they want compassion and to be treated like ladies. Nah bruh Angel Reese brought this on herself. When you talk, troll and act like she did you can’t be crying and okay the victim when you lose. MAN UP!

[@HollyG95]

Was she acting that way because she lost? Did u watch the press conference in full? Cuz she answered plenty of questions with her head held high until a reporter ASKED HER what she goes thru that people don’t know about and she spoke on it. How is that losing and wanting compassion and not just answering questions honestly? She didn’t duck questions after the game, or didn’t credit IOWA with their win so how didn’t she curry it like a real one?

[@BobothePirate24]

Exactly what I said in a different comment. A man is a man. A woman is a woman act like one. Conservative values are real and time-tested. Love to everybody from me 😘

[@BobothePirate24]

Gospel, bruh.

[@rpullins]

BTH stop crying when you lose. Take that L and get ready for next year.

[@jefffloyd3480]

Great words Carry On Carry on ..

[@TonyRealTalk07]

Joy was in her feelings for sure

[@72brother]

Exact reason I never watch this show; Joy is in her feelings...no surprises there👎

[@chriswong9158]

Greatest debate on the subject I have ever hear... Clear and direct.... All Four, you have the show !!!

[@Co0lAidmW3]

usually a huge fan of Joy but this segment was not it

[@traviswilliams5022]

I agree her bias is showing right now.

[@user-vk6qs7wn9d]

I was with segment

[@perrywashup5168]

Fr she in her feelings

[@randomupdates4013]

She’s really coming off fake as a persona. Like exaggerating her talk and gestures, cringe. Compare first show to now, and it’s like playing a character. Gah

[@AlexanderFromKC]

Agreed

[@user-xb3lk1zv8o]

Reese is 20 not 10 years old. When you choose to take on the trash talking taunting role, you've placed yourself in the villain role. Everybody loves to root against the villain. "Professional" wrestling has turned that concept into a multi billion dollar business.

[@coolnesss16]

I disagree

[@Keefer24]

@@coolnesss16You disagree but give zero context as to why? He’s right, every sport has a villain, looks at Connor mccgregor. He’s hated by a lot of people because he takes on that role, the difference is he’s the same a hole win or lose. Reese is the “ villain “ and the trash talker when she win, but a victim and cry baby when she loses.

[@JoshinonFriday]

you think she deserved to be sexually assaulted and harassed for talking trash? That's why she was crying not because some people don't like her.

[@shauncampbell4371]

face (good) vs heel (bad) is the wrestling term. Angel chose to be a heel.

[@Lebrongoat95]

Why doesn’t Caitlin Clark get the same hate she does as much maybe even more trash talking but is praised for it

[@jakemccann2355]

Joy doesn’t listen 😂😂- she said she was the villain 😮

[@Ao-goat]

What is Joy talking about 😂

[@Heie_]

She's just rambling 😂 she's in her state of what women like to call "feelings" so logic and all accountability goes out the window so she can feel better

[@Lebrongoat95]

I actually agree with joys take but it seems like she just showed up unprepared for this debate thinking all the guys would just automatically agree with what she says

[@camvole8806]

Listen to what shes saying

[@keithwatson3893]

She talking facts

[@forza-kr4bx]

​@keithwatson3893 I don't know why people made her the villian waving bye. She's great 👍 dame waves good bye to russia a few years ago. Everyone loved it

[@ahmorgan]

I agree with Acho and Shady on this one. You talking trash but cry when it happens to you.

[@truthtella3371]

dats not y she was crying nd it’s crazy how yall miss that

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

@@truthtella3371Angel Reese was talking that mess and getting arrogant and cocky instead of remaining humble

[@ahmorgan]

@@truthtella3371 it's hard to buy it when she was all smiles and giggles after beating UCLA. If LSU had beat Iowa I doubt we would have heard any of this.

[@delacybeasley8785]

What trash talk was she crying about?

[@truthtella3371]

@@ahmorgan u wouldn’t have heard it because her college career would still be going wat don’t yall understand?😂 if she won the natty im sure she would still say her experience since she blew up popularity wise

[@chesterwarfield5791]

Did Angel deserve death threats, and did she deserve to get bashed? Clark didn't get that when she did her antics last year. I stand with Joy ✊🏾

[@antonioartemus7739]

Girls get death threats all the time , wnba players , college hoopers . Had she won none of that would have been said

[@lonniecruel3]

Emotions vs Accountability/Logic

[@MrsTruthTeller]

I’m a black woman and I agree with everything he said about Angel. You can’t be talking like you’re a big dawg and then start crying when you lose. It’s very annoying. If you’re gonna be the villain, you gotta be the villain with no remorse.

[@BallCDO]

This why I actually respect Draymond Green, he keeps the same energy!!!!!

[@anthonyholley2796]

The majority of people talk ignorantly without any knowledge! Angel, is not a villain and it was the media that painted her that way! The young lady received so much hate from a certain group of people even death threat and that's why she was crying!

[@cheehee808_]

​@@anthonyholley2796bruh, she literally said she's fine playing the villain and she was doing the most after they won last year. What was she expecting? Sympathy? Nah it doesn't work like that sorry, switch her gender and people wouldn't even be batting an eye about it

[@MrsTruthTeller]

@@anthonyholley2796 She is not receiving any more hate than anyone else. Caitlin Clark and other players gets talked about terribly in comments as well. Idk if you read the comments section of sports article but the trolls are talking about everyone, EQUALLY. Men in the comments are particularly cruel to women. I can't tell you how many articles Ive seen where people called Caitlin a man or called her a Space Jam character. You don't think that hurts her feelings too? Also Caitlin's talent is constantly being diminished because she is white. Hall of Fame black female basketball players have been talking down on her A LOT while uplifting the black female athletes. Swoops even said that she had to stand by her people. Could you imagine being a young girl at the top of your game, breaking records, and the legends you once looked up to don't want to support you because you're not black? This is a two- way street, sir. No one is safe from criticism, threats, or insults. We as black people gotta stop acting like we are the only people dealing with bad experiences. We are not.

[@dewayne638]

​@@cheehee808_That's doesn't take away the fact that YT ppl are weirdos who try to hide their racism when it shows in their actions

[@Travis89-ob5tt]

She would have broke down right there on the court if Caitlyn ran her down to taunt. 😄

[@713Keepgrindingup]

The whole world cry for that white girl last year y'all even wanted her to go to the White House who does that to a losing team

[@713Keepgrindingup]

Shaquille O'Neal said it best a great player doesn't mean s*** without a championship

[@nickv4073]

@@713Keepgrindingup There are many great NBA players who never won a championship.

[@713Keepgrindingup]

@@nickv4073 go tell them that it doesn't mean s*** without a chip bro it's like going to work for free

[@ShawnGlaze-gm4ce]

@@713Keepgrindingupsuch a dumb comment. Be smarter.

[@houstonb9646]

Joy go take a NAP, why should anyone feel bad or have any sympathy for anyone unapologetic?!

[@raymondchristian2932]

It was at this moment Joy Taylor learned the difference between FS1 and ESPN. I'm hoping one day someone will check Molly Qurin and Kimberly Martin when they decide to play the victim card! 😂

[@eweezy55]

Joy definitely took this personally because we do talk about athletes. As a matter of fact Ocho listed them on this very segment. Baker Mayfield, Draymond Green, Dylan Brooks you could add T.O. Johnny football even as recently as Caleb Williams. So no, this is not an isolated incident to pick on poor little Angel Reese. Her experience is not unique and she definitely made herself a villain to boost her brand. She wanted all that smoke and it turns out she can't handle it.

[@NPAMike]

i'd disagree with joy. We made Baker the villain when he was in college and he didn't complain when he lost. He got ripped for staking the flag and he was the #1 villain.

[@camvole8806]

We called baker dirty deputants? Gave him death threats? Had articles calling him evil?

[@zackfletcher4390]

Ripped by some loved by others

[@G4MBIT]

@@camvole8806 the dude definitely had these so-called death threats.

[@camvole8806]

@@G4MBIT okay what else

[@bigballer6666]

@@camvole8806he was called a lot of worse things than “dirty debutant” which is one of the mildest insults I have ever heard. You ever hear SAS, Skip, Rob Parker, etc back in the 2010’s????

[@ladyt4062]

Men don’t point in one another faces without a fight, Caitlin handled it with CLASS!

[@felcherbloom6583]

This was the best/honest take on this yet! (-Joy😂) good job guys! (-Joy)

[@valentinodj1965]

Joy Taylor just told on herself. How many collegiate athletes have ruined their chances of being pros? You don’t see them crying immediately after a loss. Then turn around and play the victim. Young lady, this is what accountability feels like.

[@anthonyholley2796]

The majority of people are buying into the media propaganda! Angel, was not crying because she lost , she was crying with emotional gratitude concerning her teammates praising her!!

[@HollyG95]

Go and watch the full presser and tell me if she was crying because she lost or because she was asked a direct question about what she experiences off the court?

[@truthbtold8697]

​@@anthonyholley2796why talk about being sexualized when you put out a mold of your box😂😂😂

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

When Angel Reese led LSU to the national championship and won it last year, she started to get cocky, arrogant and talking that mess and that’s when people started coming after her because she wasn’t remaining humble

[@33kingmajor16]

Why a winner got to be humble?

[@SP-ej4kd]

​@@33kingmajor16they don't. But don't cry and play victim either

[@user-lt1fx2he5s]

@@33kingmajor16 That’s how you become more successful and God blesses you more

[@alexamontae5503]

@@SP-ej4kdwhat makes y’all think she was crying over a loss??? Everyone losses. She was crying because of what her teammates were saying about her and all the media hate she gets.

[@truthbtold8697]

​@@33kingmajor16they dont...but don't say you embrace being the villian then turn into the victim

[@windridermach]

james jones on point as usual, when the man speaks ppl need to listen

[@ARMac1979]

This was her last college game. So many emotions! I hate that this is the story of her last game! She showed up in a way that folks wasn’t ready for! When she did all her taunting folks said she was doing too much but some loved it. The villain role came from an article she didn’t self proclaim herself the villain. She took a hold to it after being called that. Tears during the tournament are normal. Even the villain has emotions! You can’t knock her game. She is a hooper.

[@davidfaxon3336]

You heard them she was the 2nd best and it wasn't even close

[@user-qb9fv3bf2d]

Shes mediocre one and if you are gonna act like a big dog i dont want to see you whimpering with your tail between your legs when you lose. This whole Angel Reese thing is the reason men dont respect women anymore.

[@antonioartemus7739]

Never knocked her game if you the villain don’t expect sympathy like a hero literally all he said

[@MrLodeus]

Racist BS aside. Why do some paid athletes think they should be protected from harsh critics?

[@narlywaves2371]

Harsh criticism is different from the over the top reactions to her.

[@hunterillest]

LMAOOO shady is absolutely sick of Joy 😭😭😭

[@BigDave113100]

They must have broken up lol

[@Vibelounge_]

@@BigDave113100you think shady smashed?

[@randomupdates4013]

She’s had beauty carry her to career, but certain comments show she hasn’t played the game. I bet he gets tired of her “nuance” expertise telling him, and rest of crew that has played in NFL..

[@clmrchris]

@@BigDave113100that’s what I thought too lol

[@arturopelayo202]

Never liked her but I think she got big headed during the time Acho was out.

[@kodyoliva8183]

Joy really makes a fool of herself here lmfao

[@SocialDrones]

Shout out to Joy💯💯

[@lilwilz16]

Angel wasn’t crying because she lost, or because people waved her off the court… she can take that bc that ain’t the 1st time she lost… she was crying discussing her off the court experience after they won the champs last year… it’s normal for anyone to cry after losing a spot for the national champs.. Caitlin and her team cried last year in the post presser…

[@deontajohnson5537]

That part

[@dadillonful]

Na

[@oboy9090]

She posts H*E pictures and complains about being sexualized??? As for the rest prove it. "Death Threats" that is a criminal offense, she should make a police report but, she won't because she is lying.

[@itsalmostdry22]

she had the whole year to talk about it.. what does this loss have to do with last year championship stop it

[@TTagit]

Exactly! Death threats to this young lady is pathetic! Angel crying, was a combination of things and not just the loss.

[@chuckgunn1359]

Being unapologetic and authentic doesnt mean that person is a good person or pleasant to be around.

[@soda8736]

It also means a person is unwilling to accept criticism , its a pretty dumb way to live.

[@winstonsyme5899]

Or being unemotional is also authentic. Belichick is that ‘on to Cincinnati’ guy.

[@feliciafoxworth1]

She was asked a question! She didn't just cry and volunteer this information. I have seen grown men, athletes, cry on wins and losses, and it's NOT criticized!

[@nne-nneabanobi]

Acho was preaching! I can't believe he later apologized for stating his OPINION! It ain't that serious. We don't all have to agree... 🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️🤦🏿‍♀️

[@bigwerrmwindycity5619]

And there we go…Joy said the magic word “BLACK”

[@ConradoMartinez-zi6qe]

Joys face and demeanor when Acho was telling the Angel Reece story about her and the UCLA coach " well Angels grown " was amazing 😂😆

[@folkblues4u]

Angel crying about how victimized she is was an insult to Catlin. In essence: "we lost because of all these things I've been subjected to" (many of her own doing) ... rather than "we got outplayed". It's one of the most pathetic things I've seen in college sports. Just wish she had someone grab her and tell her before that press conference, at least behave like a winner.

[@hungdinh9292]

I like all the guys take on this issue. I have watch it 4 time and have not got tired of it.

[@spencer8877]

joy takes this so personally 🤣

[@madprogamer4076]

There’s a reason as fine as joy is she’s single and her previous marriage only lasted a year😭

[@Doc_Hollladay]

she sure did!! Reese said herself she was the big bad wolf!!! now you gotta eat the crow

[@greggoose8182]

@@madprogamer4076exactly! lol

[@MauricioSandoval-xc9ih]

@@madprogamer4076😂😂

[@jerryfinger8659]

Why can't we get past race? Our government and media doesn't care about any of us regardless of race, 90% of our government and media just want to get rich off of all Americans, regardless of race.

[@muaythaicoachnimo]

Joy Taylor doing her “I’m dumb but pretty” thing again. Really? Reese was extra and she called herself the villain. Then asked for sympathy. You knew here?

[@SierraSmith-mp7wv]

Angel NEVER once asked for sympathy. Yall are delusional

[@tamih.9043]

I just wish no one was the villain and everyone acted classy on the court. I love that when Caitlin was arguing with the ref that her dad yelled at her from the stands and didn’t justify it.

[@ronwoods1214]

I agree with you 💯 Joy Reid. She Angel Reese didn't make herself a villain the media, her haters did.