Recently picked up KSP and today I saw for the first time that they actually put "flying safe" into the loading screen. Just the best
@kerbodynamicx4724 жыл бұрын
I like your name as well as “stirring oxygen tanks”
@TheEmeraldMenOfficial3 жыл бұрын
That’s been there since at least 1.2 and I love it: every time I geek out a little and thank Scott for getting me into Kerbal Space Program through his videos.
@ryanhampson6732 жыл бұрын
The updates to the loading screen over the years have been great..Nust little Easter eggs to streamers and KZbinrs
@JeffreyBue_imtxsmoke4 жыл бұрын
That is the most detailed explanation I've ever heard for the Apollo 13 failure. Great job, as usual Scott.
@puremaga174 жыл бұрын
How about one million + parts flying in close formation.. supplied by the lowest bidder 🐒
@glenkeating73334 жыл бұрын
Yes. I was 9 years old when this happened and watched and covered any info that I could find at the time even though I was to young to fully understand it all.
@Allan_aka_RocKITEman4 жыл бұрын
@@puremaga17 >>> A helicopter? 😜
@BedsitBob3 жыл бұрын
You should read Jim Lovell's book Lost Moon/Apollo 13. It explains in great detail, what happened with the tank, on the ground.
@sylvainforget2174 Жыл бұрын
Before this, I thought I knew what happened. Turns out I am not too old to learn after all.
@Alexander_Sannikov4 жыл бұрын
i feel kinda proud for the humanity that we hit a million subscribers on this channel
@malcolmhardwick42584 жыл бұрын
Thats what happens when you provide quality content !
@fabiosemino22144 жыл бұрын
Gradatim Ferociter is very appropriate in this case
@benverdel30734 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, although I miss the old rocket intro.
@exoplanets4 жыл бұрын
Yes !
@giovannifoulmouth72054 жыл бұрын
I feel like this channel deserves at least 100 million subs for such quality content, I find the fact that it only has one million very disappointing.
@DaveF.4 жыл бұрын
One element to this story which is present in Lovell's book, but which you didn't mention - and is worth highlighting as it's yet another of the coincidences and minor failures that contributed to the explosion. When they were attempting to drain the tanks using the heaters whey were also monitoring the temperature within the tanks - this should have meant they would have noticed they were baking it at 500C... But they temperature sensors and monitor they were using was calibrates only to go up as high as the 27C they expected the thermostats to cut out at. So when the thermostats failed, and burned off the insulation - as far as the technicians could tell, the temperatures were precisely the 27C they were expecting - not the catastrophic 500C. If their thermometers could go higher than 27C, they'd have immediately know the tank was faulty. Just makes me thing of the Chernobyl series - "It's ... the maximum reading on low-limit dosimeters. They gave us the number they had...."
@gordonrichardson29724 жыл бұрын
Dave F Ouch! The law of unintended consequences.
@scottmanley4 жыл бұрын
I know.... I knew this but forgot to mention it
@mennol38854 жыл бұрын
Always design your stuff as if it will be hacked by somebody.
@rsrt69104 жыл бұрын
The temperature monitor only went up to 80F. They knew the temperature would be a little higher because they were using the heaters to remove the O2 but yeah, if they had a wider (higher) range on the monitor, they'd have seen that something was wrong with the tank shortly after the pad test.
@scottwatrous4 жыл бұрын
A good case for when testing things, choose a gauge with a range high enough to tell you if things have gone catastrophically wrong.
@wde46574 жыл бұрын
The official report is really interesting. Any engineer should read it to understand just how simple things can add up to a huge problem. I always tell people they should read it but it’s pretty dry. This video is an excellent summary of events!
@markdavis24754 жыл бұрын
WDE46 I love reading reports like that! Dry or not they are the true source of facts!
@svchineeljunk-riggedschoon40384 жыл бұрын
If you like that kind of thing, check out some of the reports for marine and air accident investigations. I've read some from most english speaking countries, and they are enjoyable for the same reason, and the writing is usually very good, if formal.
@KaiHenningsen4 жыл бұрын
@@svchineeljunk-riggedschoon4038 Or rail accidents as well ... it's astonishing how many are just a sequence of error after error after error. Of course, what that means is that just one error fewer, and the accident wouldn't have happened.
@gdwnet4 жыл бұрын
@@KaiHenningsen The US chemical safety board have some amazing videos here, like above, it's interesting how one small thing can quickly snowball into a disaster.
@markdavis24754 жыл бұрын
SV Chineel, Junk-Rigged Schooner Sailing Hi! it’s funny your name is similar to one of the sailing channel i follow, i seem to follow a lot of sailing channels! Yes I quite often read the AAIB bulletins. The Air Safety Institute channel is very good.
@AttilaAsztalos4 жыл бұрын
Remember kids, redundancy is crucial in systems that are truly vital. Just remember to route all three of your redundant hydraulic control lines right next to each other so the occasional stray turbofan disc going trough your aircraft has a chance of slicing through all three of them in a single go!
@Cby05304 жыл бұрын
*DC10 references intensity*
@fridaycaliforniaa2364 жыл бұрын
Damn, that's exactly what I thought when I read the technical data books about all this stuff ! Happy to see I'm not hte only one !
@fridaycaliforniaa2364 жыл бұрын
@@Cby0530 lol
@dalecomer59514 жыл бұрын
@@jjohnston94 It"s not funny. Hundreds of people died because of it. Worse than 737 MAX. I worked with one of the people responsible on a later project and it didn't seem to have hurt his career much.
@TheVillainInGlasses4 жыл бұрын
@@dalecomer5951 It's called gallows humor and it's funny
@em217014 жыл бұрын
I worked for the company that built that thermostat that welded. The design engineer for the thermostat line had the same picture you showed on the wall of his cube as a reminder that limits are not to be exceeded. That example was used when customers would call and ask if they could be used at higher voltages/currents. Nearly all of the people who were working at that time had retired when I started, I wish I could have gotten first hand accounts of the aftermath.
@raven4k9982 жыл бұрын
so it happened much slower then the movies shows it happening🤔🤔
@dalethelander37812 жыл бұрын
But, the cryotank in Apollo 13's SM was originally installed in Apollo 10 and removed for test anomalies. When it was refurbished and installed in 13, North American Rockwell neglected to swap out the thermostat. The voltage tolerances had changed since 10. I wonder if Lee Atwood tore that technician a new asshole.
@raven4k9982 жыл бұрын
@@dalethelander3781 if not he should have
@highstimulation2497 Жыл бұрын
dramatizations are like that. the movie "margin call" portays the 2008 financial crisis as if it happened overnight, when it reality it took months, I think.
@cmonkey634 жыл бұрын
"Sir, we dropped the highly critical module, lots of brittle components in there." "Nah, it'll be fine."
@jadegecko4 жыл бұрын
8:50 "Houston, we've had a problem here" Movie: Catastrophic explosion, shock from crew, drama Real life: 80's freeze frame and festive steel drum flourish
@blainedunlap42423 жыл бұрын
I was a kid, was all over ever aspect of Apollo. Kepy an eye on it over the years. I am now 60. NEVER have I heard any detailed explanation of what happened, how and why. Also. You are scary smart. You smoothly went through every engineering detail like you built the tank and system. You have filled in an important blank of what happened in my youth. Very Impressed.
@bodugok4 жыл бұрын
wow that was A lot of detail that I have never heard before. Great video Scott thank you and stay safe.
@rosengrenj94 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine what the astronauts would have been thinking when the service module blew out! Disasters in space are scary stuff. Kudos to NASA for bringing everyone back safely! This mission is probably the most incredible point in the entire space program. Thank you Scott for explaining how it all happened in a way that's so easy to understand!
@TheNoonish4 жыл бұрын
Well, their immediate response was, "Huh? What was that?" There's a few different things that can cause jolts in the spacecraft and in reality, it took them quite a while to begin recognizing the severity of this issue. They had been dealing with the problem for about 90 minutes before they realized that the command module was beyond saving and started powering up the Lunar Module.
@rsprockets78463 жыл бұрын
Trumann sent north American. Rockwell a gag bill for towing the CSM back from space
@laimon0014 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe fire in space look exactly the same as that in Minecraft
@privateer_am4 жыл бұрын
Where do you think Minecraft got their fire animation from?
@CaseyFinSF4 жыл бұрын
@@privateer_am That's a stupid statement there kid.
@Killbayne4 жыл бұрын
@@CaseyFinSF are you joking?
@ToTheGAMES4 жыл бұрын
@@Killbayne Dont feed the troll :)
@bobsaggat4 жыл бұрын
@@CaseyFinSF woosh
@DerekG3 жыл бұрын
I’m surprised ground wasn’t monitoring heater current when they decided to use the heater to drain O2 tank 2. If they had been they would have seen that the heater was not cycling as it should have been, and probably caught the problem there. Alternatively, as has been mentioned elsewhere in the comment section, if the tank thermometer read above 80 degrees that most likely also would have worked to catch the problem. Of course with the benefit of hindsight it’s easy to be critical. The steps the crew and ground support took after the accident occurred were nothing short of incredible, and really spoke to how well they worked together and knew their spacecraft.
@AlexBesogonov3 жыл бұрын
Current is not that easy to monitor when your ADCs weight at least 300 grams.
@TheCrackedFirebird3 жыл бұрын
The thermostat wasn't able to read above 80.
@souswodaem12 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrackedFirebird I feel like I have heard this before but with radiation... Not great, not terrible.
@DaveF.2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrackedFirebird Why would anyone need a thermostat to go higher in a cryogenic tank?? Of course, what's not really been said by others is that it's remarkable that the tank didn't halt and catch fire duing the draining and refilling. It's a real testimate to just how astonishingly well built the damn thing was that it managed to get as far as going into space. It's just a bummer that's the time when it choose to go kaboom. Equally astonishing is how well built the rest of the CM/SM that it survived the explosion and that it was able to be restarted after several days in a deep cold state - frankly the most frightening line in the movie after "we're venting something into space' is 'like driving a toaster through a car-wash'.
@DaveF.2 жыл бұрын
@Bobb Grimley Thanks Bobb, glad you're out there checking the internet for mistakes. Funnily enough, my spellchecker tells me that there is no such word as 'Bobb' either. Just in case you want to let the person who named you that they made a spelling mistake too.
@AdurianJ4 жыл бұрын
Can't you go over all the changes in Apollo 14 that never gets talked about
@richardmalcolm14574 жыл бұрын
See @11:15 - he mentions these briefly.
@TheZoltan-424 жыл бұрын
++Apollo
@georgeemil36184 жыл бұрын
Did they redesign the CO2 filter assemblies to be the same shape and size?
@kallewirsch22634 жыл бұрын
@@georgeemil3618 As far as I know: No. The Apollo hardware was a steady flow of already built hardware. You do not want to include major structural changes as long as you absolutely do need them. A13 has shown that it is possible to build an adaptor even when in flight. If I had to make the decision, I would say: good enough.If you absoultely insist, construct a prefessional adaptor and put that on the packing list, but otherwise: don't change a working system unless there is a good reason to do so. After all this was in accident, which should not have happend in the first place.
@dalethelander37812 жыл бұрын
@@kallewirsch2263 Major structural changes were made to the SM for the J missions to accomodate the SIM bay.
@rnds76b2 жыл бұрын
What I don't understand is why these tanks were even used at all. You said they were removed from Apollo 10's Service Module and replaced with upgraded tanks. Why, then, weren't "upgraded" tanks used on Apollo 13? Were the original tanks "upgraded," then installed in 13's Service Module?
@joevignolor4u9494 жыл бұрын
There was a temperature gauge on the launch pad to display the temperature inside the O2 tank heater assembly. During the boil off process the temperature inside the tank heater got up to more than 500F but unfortunately the temperature gauge only went up to 80F. The gauge was pegged all the way up to the top at 80 and so no one realized that the temperature inside the tank heater was up so high that it was damaging the insulation on the wires.
@scottmanley4 жыл бұрын
That's something I forgot to mention
@CaseyFinSF4 жыл бұрын
@@scottmanley Giving credit where credit is due - nice Scott👍🏼😄
@opl5004 жыл бұрын
I guess look on the bright side - the o2 tank could've exploded during launch to orbit instead of afterwards when it did
@joevignolor4u9494 жыл бұрын
@@opl500 It wouldn't have exploded that early in the mission anyway. It was too early to stir the tanks. From what I've read the latest in the mission that it could have exploded and the crew might still have had a chance to survive was the beginning of powered descent. Once a sizable portion of the fuel in the LM's descent stage was used up they wouldn't have had any way to get back out of lunar orbit.
@rnds76b2 жыл бұрын
@@joevignolor4u949 I'm confused...what has the amount of fuel in the LM got to do with the O2 Service Module tank exploding???
@n1k0n_4 жыл бұрын
Scott you're just awesome. Thanks for going into such detail and helping us forget our current situation.
@DarxusC4 жыл бұрын
I just finally watched the movie yesterday, because of you mentioning it. And I was really curious about this, of course. Excellent timing.
@nakfan3 жыл бұрын
This channel might end up being my favorite channel on space and one of my top 3 channels on KZbin in all categories. Definately the best walk thru of Apollo 13's tank issue. Thanks.
@scoldingwhisper4 жыл бұрын
i never thought all those years ago when i was trying to get into orbit on the free version of KSP that i would still be watching your videos in the next decade
@RogerWilco14 жыл бұрын
Just started watching but had to get my up vote and comment in to help you in the algos since the video is only 30 minutes old. .... and this is one of my favorite of your videos. Love this deep dive!
@TroyRubert4 жыл бұрын
I was literally just looking for more info on this yesterday. Like a video of what stirring the tanks was like.
@i.p.knightly1494 жыл бұрын
Ya, I thought they just shook them up and down.
@dennisk58184 жыл бұрын
Fantastic explanation, Scott. It's good to hear what really happened; that it wasn't just a 'spark' in the cryotank.
@gregjones36602 жыл бұрын
A spark in the cryo tank would been catastrophic?…
@justice40244 жыл бұрын
Най-краткото и най-точно обяснение на случилото се с Аполо 13 . Както винаги страхотно видео . Respect.
@johnwatson39484 жыл бұрын
This is great thanks - feel like I’ve been waiting 50 years for a good explanation like this.
@ryanspence58314 жыл бұрын
10:08 everyone gangsta til service module 106 gets hit by a ghast
@davidchen13974 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one to notice that the fire is from minecraft textures lol
@mvmmotovlogmusic28154 жыл бұрын
Scott is a valuable human resource. Live Safe mVm
@kerbodynamicx4724 жыл бұрын
mVm MotoVlogMusic You mean “fly safe”
@BruceRobertson4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Scott. I really enjoyed the detail and clarity.
@miriamn96574 жыл бұрын
One design deficiency was also that both oxygen (and hydrogen) tanks fed the fuel cells over a common manifold. No isolation valves, no check valves. You have one leak anywhere in the system, you will loose everything. If there had been the possibility to isolate the faulty tank, the outcome would've been less dangerous. Yes, the moon would've been lost. But there would've been enough oxygen in the good tank to return home. They later changed that for the J- missions and AFAIK the space shuttle not only had check valves between the tanks and the manifold, but also the possibility to switch to 'split plant' operation, i.e. feeding each FC from its 'own' tank and isolating them from each other. I still don't get why they didn't implement that in the first place. They used statistical methods to determine how often a system would fail in a given number of times, but overlooked that interconnecting independend units increases the failure rate. Strange...
@THE-michaelmyers2 жыл бұрын
You would think NASA would have learned about planning for equipment isolation after Gemini 8. That has always bothered me.
@JeffSharonLive4 жыл бұрын
I have no engineering background at all and found this engaging and fascinating, not to mention well-explained. Scott, thank you for your service to the rest of us who love space (and space history) but didn’t go to MIT.
@yonmoore4 жыл бұрын
I already knew what caused the explosion on Apollo 13 but I also knew that I'd learn a bunch of new and interesting details by clicking on this video because it's Scott Manly!
@phasm424 жыл бұрын
"But at 50+ atmospheres of pure oxygen..." yeesh
@Kenionatus4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't seem like a highly unusual partial pressure for oxygen by itself. Diving equipment has a partial oxygen pressure (gas mix pressure x concentration) of 40bar when filled with air. But running electrical equipment in that environment is a different thing, of course...
@Nghilifa4 жыл бұрын
@@Kenionatus Air & oxygen are not the same though.
@JP-uk9uc4 жыл бұрын
I'm not exactly familiar with the explosive properties of pure oxygen in liquid form but I imagine it's extremely dangerous.
@lawrencequave86914 жыл бұрын
50+ atmospheres would not be 50+ psi but 50 x 14.7 psi, right? Somebody explain.
@WearyKirin4 жыл бұрын
@@lawrencequave8691 1 atmosphere =1 BAR = 14.7 PSI
@prof.hectorholbrook46924 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's the most comprehensive account of the catalogue of failures that led to the catastrophic explosion of that tank on Apollo13. Well presented.
@AttilaTheHun3333334 жыл бұрын
Bad teflon ruined my morning eggs so many times...no wonder they had problems with it on Apollo.
@johncamp76793 жыл бұрын
Not supposed to use metal utensils. And I’m only guessing that’s what caused it.
@scottwegner42324 жыл бұрын
Scott, your video is the best technical explanation of the Apollo 13 oxygen tank failure I've ever seen. Thank you.
@nazamroth84274 жыл бұрын
I challenge you to find an orkier space repair job than Apollo 13. "Oh no, vital systems of the ship blew up!" "Don't worry, we have some cardboard, plastic bags, and duct tape! We will be fine!"
@yes_head4 жыл бұрын
You do realize those are two separate problems they had to deal with, right?
@nazamroth84274 жыл бұрын
@@yes_head I was also talking about orks. How much do you think I cared about precision in that instance?
@cycoticmongoose4 жыл бұрын
Nazamroth oi yu dum gitz! Da air fingy blowed up! Git tha fixer tape n baggies
@codymoe49862 жыл бұрын
You must not care about "precision" at all, given you misspelled "orcs", not to mention, you have them consulting with NASA on how to fix engineering problems during spaceflight.... Lame attempt at humor... Try again.
@thephantomthieves72649 ай бұрын
@@codymoe4986I believe they’re referring to the Orks in Warhammer…
@davidboyle19023 жыл бұрын
An excellent rundown that I've been waiting to hear since the words "We've got a problem" were spoken. Thank you filling that long standing gap.
@paulhorn26654 жыл бұрын
Well, I never really understood what was the cause of the explosion. Now I know, after 20 yrs! Thank you Mr. Manley!
@greggv84 жыл бұрын
The cause was bloody stupid penny pinching. When the damage to the tank was discovered, it should have immediately been tagged as defective then cut apart to see what all had been affected by the impact.
@Firebrand553 жыл бұрын
Excellent.....no waffle, no padding....just concise, clear explanation. At the time, I listened/watched every minute of the drama. At one time, real doubts of survival were intimated, and we all held our breath. Mission Control's finest hour.
@CNC-Time-Lapse4 жыл бұрын
I don't always test my rockets. But when I do, I do it in space.
@commiccannon5924 жыл бұрын
George D. Marsack hopefully you mean in ksp
@lukerees2813 жыл бұрын
Saw the Apollo 13 capsule at Hutchinson Kansas. Absolutely insane detail
@mgutkowski4 жыл бұрын
Lovell/Kluger's explanation of this in the book of Apollo13 is almost as complete but contained one extra titbit you didn't mention: The pressure gauge. When the thermostats stuck shut (ohm's law - double the voltage, double the current, quadruple the power) to boil the LOx off, the pressure gauge should have alerted them that it was way high. The problem was the gauge topped out in normal use meaning the most basic way they could have detected this failure eluded them. The lesson here stands true in anything with a gauge: Always make sure the gauge can read higher than you expect it ever to need to! Thus endeth lesson 37 in the gospel of engineering according to me....
@Nighthawke704 жыл бұрын
Lovell did also mention they duplicated the whole thing on one of the test flight articles. I hope they didn't throw away the recordings of that event.
@2112121124 жыл бұрын
Captain G should take an engineer to realize this tidbit. But it takes an engineer to reason his/her way out of using an overly capable gauge
@zchen274 жыл бұрын
So "Not bad, not terrible" strikes again.
@justin23084 жыл бұрын
Exactly right. Michael Crichton actually took inspiration from Apollo 13, I think, in the Jurassic Park novel: The motion sensors were programmed to make sure none of the dinosaurs had escaped so it topped out at the number there was supposed to be, but they also should’ve programmed them to make sure there weren’t more.
@Jonascord3 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the bean counter, down stream, who gets a deal on a cheaper gauge...
@annando4 жыл бұрын
At the beginning of the video I thought "I have seen enough documentary about Apollo 13 - you can't tell me more". Yeah, well ... the hubris is strong with me :-) Thanks for the video and congratulations for one million subscribers!
@jjohnston944 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it's hard to find the right level of technicality for a public explanation. I submit there should be different levels you can choose from, depending on your own estimate of your education/competence. This one just a tiny bit too much in a couple of spots (the chemistry), but otherwise just right.
@annando4 жыл бұрын
@@jjohnston94 I found it perfect - especially *because* of the chemistry. This one had been left out in the other documentaries.
@AllanDeal4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great videos in are extremely boring lockdown. fly safe people
@randycrew4 жыл бұрын
Scott, thanks for this video (and all of your others) a great description of the events. Well done and easy to understand
@spxur4 жыл бұрын
when he adds the minecraft fire you know hes cultured
@MarkoVukovic04 жыл бұрын
Scott, congratulations on 1 million subs, you deserve it. Thank you for this outstanding channel!
@EnglishMike3 жыл бұрын
About 30 years ago, when I was working for IBM in the UK, they had an all-site meeting at a local convention center, and the guest speaker was none other than Jim Lovell, commander of Apollo 13. Whatever IBM had paid him to be there, it was money well spent. He gave an enthralling and inspiring account of the mission and the entire audience was hanging on every word.
@joshmellon3902 жыл бұрын
I keep re-watching videos that I know I've liked, and finding that I have to like them again. All your videos too.
@wheelitzr24 жыл бұрын
Wait so the tank failed a test on the ground and they just said "send it"?
@evanr324 жыл бұрын
and even before that they were fine with using a suspected damaged ox tank
@CNC-Time-Lapse4 жыл бұрын
.. and it failed multiple tests. lol
@VaporheadATC4 жыл бұрын
Same could be said for the Challenger. These folks are under such immense pressure to launch or pure ignorance, they jeopardize everyone's lives.
@thomasfholland4 жыл бұрын
VaporheadATC Yeah NASA has way too many managers in management!
@maxk43244 жыл бұрын
It's easy to criticize in retrospect, not so much when you have an entire multi billion dollar government program and agency breathing down your neck and the eyes of the world watching your every move with bated breath.
@goodclover4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, enslaved oxygen breaking free.
@MichaelDeHaven4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, for the laugh.👍
@Jay-ln1co4 жыл бұрын
"The only thing we have to lose is our carbohydrate chains!"
@GiovanniEsposito54 жыл бұрын
Wow! Never found an explaining that was so detailed and well presented! Great job as always!
@opl5004 жыл бұрын
I guess it's like aviation - fail to dot enough i's or cross enough t's and you're hating life.
@bumrocky4 жыл бұрын
but it's always the missed dot on the lower case j that causes the REAL problems
@moejoe9876543214 жыл бұрын
@@bumrocky Or the missed bar over the R
@igvc18764 жыл бұрын
@@moejoe987654321 which rocket was that? I forget..
@moejoe9876543214 жыл бұрын
@@igvc1876 The Mariner 1, I think Sotty boy has a vid on it
@pjimmbojimmbo19903 жыл бұрын
Good Breakdown of the Sequence of Events that led to the Tank Failure.
@jasongibbs64234 жыл бұрын
I never really thought about the fact that the failure on the O2 tank was in fact caused by a piece of hardware that was later determined to be unnecessary.
@1943vermork4 жыл бұрын
Jason Gibbs Wrong, the fan/agitator wasn’t necessary, the heating element was still required to maintain the pressure at super critical equilibrium
@Galactis14 жыл бұрын
VERY well researched Scott. GOOD JOB!
@michaelbuckers4 жыл бұрын
Imagine damaging life-critical equipment and then putting it into crewed space vehicle anyway. What is this, soviet union QA standards? Pretty sure they had better. Geez.
@Alex230927094 жыл бұрын
It was nothing personal, just business
@2112121124 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@igvc18764 жыл бұрын
Well, Soviet Union/Russia had the same number of deadly incidents in their crewed space program with an almost order of magnitude more launches.
@markhatch12674 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great explanation of something I have wondered about my whole life. I was a little boy when it happened. Everything I have heard about it since then has left me with more questions than answers. Thank you for finally clearing things up.
@Jack-Cabinetry4 жыл бұрын
My wife is supercritical, she puts me under immense pressure...
@giovannifoulmouth72054 жыл бұрын
hey, as long as there's no surface tension you're good
@davecawthorn22344 жыл бұрын
Scott, that’s the best explanation of this event and the lead up to it. You should be really proud of your work. Many thanks
@b1laxson4 жыл бұрын
Ground work: Empties to 92% History: Close enough, its not like this is rocket science. 😏
@St0RM334 жыл бұрын
They should have replaced the tank right now and there. Who ever made the decision to proceed with that tank is a retard.
@St0RM334 жыл бұрын
@get to the Choppaa really?!? wtf
@dalecomer59514 жыл бұрын
@get to the Choppaa And the flight manager that didn"t want to bother her boss at home on a Saturday when they thought they might have a problem from the external tank foam hit on the wing of Columbia and then sleep on it over the weekend while neglecting to inform the flight crew of their concern.
@JP-uk9uc4 жыл бұрын
The faults of man. I believe political and financial pressure on the launch had a role to play in all this. Given the incredible complexity of the build, I imagine there were only a few that could do it without damaging something else.... But then again most engineers, managers and others think those of us who turn a wrench are replaceable; "whatever you were doing can be done by somebody else" attitude. What's clear to me is someone knew there was a problem with the tank and chose to rely upon the backup procedure for the primary.
@BigDaddy_MRI4 жыл бұрын
I wrote a white paper in college on this subject. I also spoke to Jim Lovell about it. Thanks for posting on this. Great video!! Thanks Scott!!
@nczioox11164 жыл бұрын
Its because Tom Hanks was on that mission
@MarkTheMorose4 жыл бұрын
I thought he was landing an airliner in the Hudson River that day.
@jackmcslay4 жыл бұрын
Never put Tom Hanks on something involves flight, or you might end up stranded on a deserted island, having to land your plane on a river, getting stuck on the airport because your home country no longer exists or almost dying in outer space.
@mattmanyam4 жыл бұрын
What happens if we put Tom Hanks and Matt Damon in the same movie?? (Again?)
@buckstarchaser23764 жыл бұрын
Wasn't he in Australia filming a movie on a corona-like virus when he caught the corona virus?
@zapfanzapfan4 жыл бұрын
If Tom Hanks sits next to you in a space capsule or a plane, take the next flight! :-)
@thirstfast10254 жыл бұрын
I always love the pictures/videos you're able to find to compliment what you're explaining!
@eliotmansfield4 жыл бұрын
The BBC are doing a podcast series on this called ‘13 minutes to the moon’.
@621Lafayette4 жыл бұрын
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w13xttx2/episodes/player
@zapfanzapfan4 жыл бұрын
Cool, that will keep me occupied for a few hours, thank you!
@dwmac20104 жыл бұрын
@@621Lafayette Yes, agreed this is an excellent podcast. Season 2 is Apollo 13. Season 1 is the moon landing. Both are very good and highly recommended.
@jackvernian77794 жыл бұрын
Scott, thank you for keeping me entertained in these times of isolation! Fly safe.
@dalecomer59514 жыл бұрын
It"s reminiscent of the decision to ground test with the crew in the Command Module on 100% oxygen and at the same time not use fire resistant materials in the CM since a fire could be extinguished quickly in space by dumping the oxygen. Both decisions by high level NASA managers, possibly even the same one.
@kallewirsch22634 жыл бұрын
The issue was not, that it was 100% oxygen. In order to perform the leakage test, the pressure inside the capsule had to be raised way over 1 bar. Something that would have never happend in space. In fact when in space the pressure in the capsule was way lower then 1 bar, giving roughly the same amount of oxygen per volume as it would be, would there be ordinary air. So with the regular pressure in flight, the risk is more or less exactly the same as on earth under regular atmospheric conditions. It only happend because the leak test was done with the capsule at higher pressure then normal. The issue was solved by not filling the capsule with pure oxygen at the Cape but instead staying with air but add an additional pressure valve which would close during the ascent, when the dropping pressure reached the intended capsule pressure. From them on, the air was steadily replaced with pure oxygen.
@dalecomer59515 ай бұрын
@@kallewirsch2263 So you are stating the crew would have been okay if the capsule pressure had only been 1 bar or so?
@kallewirsch22635 ай бұрын
@@dalecomer5951 No. The crew would have been ok, if the test would have been performed with ordinary air. But this was not possible, since the capsule was not equipped with air containers. The capsule only had the facilities to be filled with oxygen. That is why they used it to perform the test. It was a leakage test. Thus they needed to pressurize the capsule with a higher pressure then the surroundings. Just using 1 bar (same as the surroundings) for the test would not have been enough. They NEEDED the higher pressure for the test.
@dalecomer59515 ай бұрын
@@kallewirsch2263 Out of curiosity, when were you born?
@kallewirsch22635 ай бұрын
@@dalecomer5951 1963
@prof.hectorholbrook46924 жыл бұрын
A great further (more detailed) insight into something I've been "studying" on & off for about a year now, out of total fascination for the Causation Factor(s) of the explosion. Thanks Scot. Great work.
@eisenklad4 жыл бұрын
are you going to do all the tragedies that NASA/Roscosmos had on their respective anniversaries?
@RogerWilco14 жыл бұрын
eisenklad That would be great!
@GoldSrc_4 жыл бұрын
Challenger is still too much for me, it makes me sad and it pisses me off because people could have been saved that day, just like Columbia ;_;
@eisenklad4 жыл бұрын
@@GoldSrc_ i was thinking of Gus Grissom/Apollo 1 . i'm not even American but that death was pure horror. he avoided drowning when the hatch to mercury capsule blew off... only to die in the gas that keeps people alive while on the launchpad
@GoldSrc_4 жыл бұрын
@@eisenklad Yeah, Apollo 1 was horrible, and the capsule had lots of bad design choices, like a hatch that opens inwards and held close with latches, which made impossible to open with the higher pressure inside as well.
@adrianshingler97834 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that Scott, superb detail as ever!
@alvarov67754 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence, just recently watched the 90's film starring Tom Hanks about this incident.
@jimmyjames63184 жыл бұрын
You mean the alleged pedophile?
@call_me_stan58874 жыл бұрын
Hey, Scott :) Great presentation, as always. BTW I like your Scottish accent - mixes well with the content :)
@7pH4 жыл бұрын
I love how you say mun instead of moon.
@ericsbuds4 жыл бұрын
fantastic. i love learning about this kind of stuff. love all the photos, too. thanks for the great video!
@bruhdabones4 жыл бұрын
10:10 Minecraft fire animation
@MrMoriarek4 жыл бұрын
Is it only me who's Scott's 'Fly safe' - really makes me comforting ;)
@EwingTaiwan4 жыл бұрын
So if the oxygen is in a supercritical state, how do you measure the fullness of it?
@shrikedecil4 жыл бұрын
Both pressure and temperature measurements work as usual, leading to the usual routes to calculate how much gas is present.
@tomf31504 жыл бұрын
And mass.
@EwingTaiwan4 жыл бұрын
Methods that can measure mass is quite impractical in space I would presume. To use gas formulas would implies that one needs to measure the density directly?
@nunya___4 жыл бұрын
Temperature and pressure are commonly used to determine operating mass even in situation where there are mixtures of vapor and liquid. Or even mixtures of differing gasses.
@EwingTaiwan4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I got a brainfart there, totally got the ideal gas law backwards. Given a fixed volume, one DO get to calculate density directly from temperature and pressure. My thermaldynamics teacher would probably strangle me for that lol.
@paulhaynes80454 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott, a nice chewy video to get your teeth into. I can't believe they didn't do more when they found they couldn't empty the tank. If they'd investigated, the whole disaster would have been avoided. What on earth did they think - that it didn't matter, or that fairies had fixed it?! Mind you, I also can't believe that I sat at the tea table, with the whole family dead quiet, listening to the static on the radio, waiting (it seemed like forever) for Apollo 13 to reply, after re-entry. 50 years ago!! I cannot possibly be that old....
@johncheresna4 жыл бұрын
I was in an audience with where Jim Lovell was the speaker. True or not he said that they found that someone had dropped one of the components during construction and thats what caused the problem.
@gordonrichardson29724 жыл бұрын
John Cheresna Lots of holes lined up for the problem to occur!
@MaxStax14 жыл бұрын
I love when Scott posts videos about the real events from Apollo 13 and explains what really happened.
@goodclover4 жыл бұрын
Comments: 8 I can count at least 23
@nunya___4 жыл бұрын
Prove it.
@TheSadButMadLad4 жыл бұрын
It's called caching. KZbin doesn't keep all stats up to date for everyone equally.
@user-px1wj2uv3r4 жыл бұрын
Great video Scott! I love getting ready in the morning and getting my space fix all at once!
@DaveCompton51504 жыл бұрын
First!
@Wombattlr4 жыл бұрын
*second
@Forest_Fifer4 жыл бұрын
I've been following the Apollo 50 account on Twitter (definitely recommended by the way) who tweet in real time about the missions from 50 years ago. It's been fun watching their updates recently about all the O2 tank issues during the build up to launch
@antoniomaglione41014 жыл бұрын
Wow! The most correct and complete explanation of the oxygen tank explosion on Apollo 13 that I have ever seen. Thank you Mr. Manley, Anthony
@jhyland874 жыл бұрын
This was much more detailed than most other videos. Thanks!
@OfficialUSKRprogram2 жыл бұрын
I like how "the most replayed" part of this Scott Manley's video is the 3 second intro being skipped lol We all watched the whole video
@jjeherrera4 жыл бұрын
Great explanation! This is why your engineering oriented viewers follow you. The ill fated Apollo 13 mission is one of those examples of how human ingenuity and capability for improvisation can work under pressure. It's fortunate it had a happy ending.
@PTuffduty3 жыл бұрын
probably available in other places (?), but this is the first time anyone has explained just what happened. Thanks Scott.
@1ronmoore14 жыл бұрын
A very clear, enlightening video. Thanks, Scott!
@mikeburch29984 жыл бұрын
That was well done Scott. I learned a lot. Greetings from Arizona.
@PDLM12212 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott for making it clear what probably happen on Apollo 13
@howardbond15834 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott for explaining this failure. When it occurred my Father-in-Law was a Physicist at NASA (Moffet Field). He told me he almost blew up his lab. Although he explained to me the failure modes, I didn’t really understand totally. I think I remember him saying the explosion should of separated the Command Module from the Service Module. It was a long time ago. Thank You for explaining it to me and and letting me relive a time I spent with him. Regards Howard
@middlecam4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant summary Scott!
@mikefochtman71643 жыл бұрын
Hmm.... even with the third tank, that diagram (11:47) seems to show that a failure in #1 tank would still take out all fuel cell supply and environmental oxygen?? Maybe there's a check-valve not shown or something, but it still looks like several single-point failures would endanger the crew. Ah well. Great explanation, you're about the only other person I've ever heard mention the 28V vs 65V difference used pre-launch that damaged the switch. I read that years ago, and so many people ignore that and focus on the 'dropped about 2 inches'. Great video.
@erikpeterson19894 жыл бұрын
Thanks Scott! This was one your most interesting videos - can't wait for the next one!
@MkmeOrg4 жыл бұрын
Such a fascinating recount/explanation. Like any accident- there are almost always a myriad of small errors leading up to the incident. Very cool
@pjimmbojimmbo19904 жыл бұрын
Good Job Scott. You did your Homework on the background. Lovell was aware of some Problem/History regarding the Tank, as he one of a Group that had Signed Off on the Procedure to Boil the Tank Dry. I will bet that the Astronautss that flew Apollos 7 - 12 had some thoughts that they too flew Spacecraft that had the same Inadequate Switches/Breakers. Of course other Key Elements to the Failure hadn't occurred, but I'm sure they were looking back with better than 20/20 hindsight
@GenoLoma4 жыл бұрын
Always great information from this channel.. thank you Scott. 😁👍