WHAT?! "Classical Music Is RACIST"

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[@whitecat5782]

I can’t believe she would disrespect disabled people like that. Beethoven was deaf and wrote one of the best classical pieces ever. Sham on her.

[@MrAranton]

And Tchaikovsky was gay. I know he was a romantic composer, but people who think classical music is racist wouldn‘t know the difference.

[@highhoper1143]

There were also was black people who were composers who then emerge classicals to Blues in the south in the 1900s.

[@F2ZC]

Wasn’t Mozart a catboy or sm?

[@paradoxzee6834]

Beethoven wasn't deaf, he had hearing problems. He could still hear you just needed to speak louder. There is a legend he got the idea for the 5th symphony after the maid who always knock stronger at the door of his private room

[@GorillaYeager]

​@@F2ZCyeah no he was more of scatboy

[@theajoestar]

as a black girl, i can confirm i dont give a shit. if it sounds good im gonna listen to it. its not racist its music💀💀

[@hencytjoe]

It's not racist because they wrote it to impress the audience, not to oppress black people. Most of them probably never met a black person in their entire life, so why would they actively make stuff against black people?

[@theajoestar]

@@hencytjoe for real. but somehow its always the people that arent of colour that are so annoyed about this.🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

[@The_Killah29]

It's racist cus it's White culture, and for some reason White culture needs to be absolutely demolished. :/

[@Dimensionalalteration]

Cheers

[@UnaMandagora]

​@Garraway Prox they mostly wrote it to survive paycheck to paycheck, we glorify them but there was dozens of musicians at that time, some better and some worse, just happened that the best got remembered, doesn't mean they were wealthy tho. Bethoven died in poverty, for example and he never married

[@Orchid_user-789]

“Straight white male” Tchaikovsky laughing in the background

[@lealacey2895]

People who play this game of which classical music composer liked it in the butt are stupid.

[@solena.mediounii]

Is he not straight, white and a male?

[@user-cl2xv1gd2h]

He was gay@@solena.mediounii

[@solena.mediounii]

@@user-cl2xv1gd2h Ah i see. Google doesn’t really talk about those things unless you’re straight upfront

[@tombonespilbo]

​​@@solena.mediounii plenty of composers were homosexual.. Tchaikovsky, Britten, Saint-Saens, Copland, Barber. Ethel Smyth to name a small handful. Also hasten to add these famous black composers: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor, Florence Price, Nathaniel Dett. Female composers: Ruth Gipps, Morfydd Owen, Ethel Smyth, Lili Boulanger, Fanny Mendelssohn, Clara Schumann, Florence Price. And these are the dead ones. The living composers are quite something. Not all straight, white and male and there are plenty out there being discovered, unearthed and enjoyed. One ill informed attention seeking tiktok doesn't represent the industry at large.

[@BlossomedJewelsOfficial]

As an African American girl who listens to Bach’s music on a daily basis, please be quiet classical / baroque music is not racist it’s just apart of European culture.

[@Carlos-il2mo]

Well, they think we have no culture🤦‍♂️

[@stizan9185]

​@@Carlos-il2mo That would be so silly, I mean even this day the most popular music is made with instruments and tools from Europeans and the most popular instrumental music has European roots, "neoclassical"/Contemporary classical composers like Hans Zimmer and pieces like Ludovico Einaudi - Experience/Nuvole bianche, Max Richter - On The Nature Of Daylight

[@DisconnectedRoamer]

I love that you enjoy our white culture in a world where we are constantly told that we have none. Us Europeans laugh at those kinds of people anyway, every civilisation has culture and it should all be preserved and respected. Western Globalists don't understand this and are often still Imperialist.

[@tudormiller887]

Bach is Simply The Best only Mozart can rival him. 👍

[@tudormiller887]

@@DisconnectedRoamer No White Culture=No White Race. 🤔

[@haileymccrae4681]

next: WeArIng ClOthEs Is RaCiSt

[@Keef_Razor]

Take em off then, I need them in here, it’s fkin colddd

[@geenarae]

Ssdly this is kind of already happening. If you wear another cultures fashion - like a white person wearing a kimono - they say it's cultural appropriation and that makes you racist.

[@zachwayne6343]

I support this, let us take action against clothing! Full nudist society 👌

[@zachwayne6343]

@@riversfreedom ah shit..too many "Maps" and supporters of them for that to be a good choice.. I fully retract that.. keep nudism in the bedroom as a special thing for your lover.

[@charlesco7413]

Technically it is based off of cultural norms established by the elite in-group and those camps usually are based aroud the society that harbors their stylistic tropes. And that being said, in a mostly elite Caucasian influenced normality this means mostly white individuals decided those societal norms. So in conclusion, yeah it was.

[@Star_Man21]

A straight white roman male created glass windows but you have them in your room

[@Babvoy]

And the list is long, it's two white European male that invented the camera that ultimately lead to the one in her phone that allowed her filming that bullshit.

[@lewisjones284]

That’s interesting, she’s recording her TikTok on an iPhone. I could’ve sworn Steve Jobs was the founder of Apple. He’s a cis straight white male too, so I suppose she should get rid of the phone and never post again

[@adamsmith1306]

thats Racist! 🤣

[@SpacedudeProductions]

Tbf since he was Roman it’s highly debatable whether or not he was straight…

[@fabriziocossio3336]

​@@SpacedudeProductions it's roman Not Greek So there is a chance, but no guarantee

[@L3_cHat]

“*StRaiGht* wHiTe mEn” Tchaikovsky:

[@DimitriTheBarbarian]

Oscar Wilde

[@olekcholewa8171]

By what definition are Russians not white

[@lealacey2895]

People who play that game with her of which classical music composer liked it in the butt or not are fucking stupid.

[@L3_cHat]

@@olekcholewa8171 he wasn’t straight though lmao

[@olekcholewa8171]

@@L3_cHat Debatable, but he was definitely white. Unless you're using some Nazi logic.

[@user-nf3kz9ee2n]

As an Asian I would say that classical music is the highest form of music for me. I literally listen to Ravel everyday (although Ravel is not a 18th century composer lol) I dunno why so many people have to associate race to subjects like this... it's almost as if 'straight white males' get called racist for even being themselves.. this is kinda messed up, it's almost a kind of racism against white males. Kinda sad, to think so many people unknowingly commit things they swore to destroy.

[@surielcastillo5718]

It counts given one of his biggest influences was Mozart lol. Nice to know there are more Ravel obsessed fans out there

[@jackisinforthewin]

i like the gaspard

[@S4v3_w3st]

It is white music Asians wouldn’t accept me playing their music white culture is just the most used around the world bc it’s the best

[@MusicismoreImportant]

​@@S4v3_w3stit's for everyone Hopefully Paris Olympics gives tribute to Georges Bizet, Camille saint saens, Charles aznavour, Jean baptise lully, Edith piaf, Erik satie 🇨🇵 Because London Olympics had Simon rattle

[@S4v3_w3st]

@@MusicismoreImportant it is for everyone my point is whites are more tolerant we don’t care but other races do

[@harrylongabaugh7402]

I'm betting that she just failed her music history test.

[@patrickphillips2800]

From the way she spoke about "classical music", I would say so.

[@AureliusG123]

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[@jennifercampbell9938]

😂right on!

[@trishlangford5773]

Oh yes 😂😂

[@m.a.g.y.1796]

Damn right you are.

[@randomdude2753]

Me being a black person who likes and plays classical music:👁👄👁

[@AMKmusic96]

You are listening to the tunes of your former owners (according to them*) 🥴

[@Duramaa]

@@AMKmusic96 that was unnecessary lol

[@AMKmusic96]

@@Duramaa thats what these people believe! 😆

[@shanadriver7744]

This woman in the video I wrong. There were many wonderful classical composers who were black as well.

[@duck_entertainment]

A man of quality I say ☕️ cheers mate

[@THE-US-ARMY]

As a Native American I don't give a fuck

[@DisconnectedRoamer]

As an Anglo-Irish, f*ck yeah mate

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

Yeah people don't how much hard work it takes plus easy to criticize

[@accountno5571]

Corelli was gay Lully was gay Handel was gay Schubert was gay Tchaikovsky was gay Britten was gay Poulenc was gay Copland was gay Bernstein was gay John Cage was gay Chopin was bisexual Hildegard of Bingen was a woman Clara Schumann was a woman Fanny Hensel was a woman Amy Beach was a woman Rebecca Clarke was a woman Lilli and Nadia Boulanger were women Cécile Chaminade was a woman Ethyl Smyth was a woman who was a lesbian Florence Price was black Samuel Colridge Taylor was black Scott Joplin was black Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de Saint-Georges was black William Grant Still was black George Walker was black These are all dead composers just to show that even Classical music's history is diverse. Yes there are definitely problems with representation of these composers, and how their music has been received and appreciated, but to categorise Classical Music as inherently racist is vastly oversimplified and ignores the contributions and identities of these talented composers. Today Classical Music is more diverse than ever with people from all different backgrounds, ages, nationalities, gender identies expressing themselves through music. This list didn't even begin to cover performers, which have been historically even more diverse than composers.

[@TheOrgan1st]

Chopin was not bi Schubert was bi Tchaikovsky may have been gay And I’m pretty sure most of the others weren’t homosexual

[@accountno5571]

@ADumbMidget At least your username is honest. If you're only pretty sure of something, perhaps you should read a book to become more certain of it. Chopin wrote love letters to his classmate Tytus Woyciechowski. Schubert may have been bi or gay, but it is at least evident that he was queer. Handel is believed to have frequented circles in which homosexuality was commonplace and accepted, such as Burlington House and Cannons, the homes of the Earl of Burlington and the Duke of Chandos. He had no wife. Corelli moved in similar circles and lived closely with male companions. Lully developed close ties with the homosexual circle established by the King of France's brother at the time. Britten had Peter Pears as his long term romantic partner. John Cage had Merce Cunningham as his. Tchaikovsky diary entries and letters to his brother explicitly state his romantic feelings for men. Bernstein's wife has confirmed he was gay. Copland was part of a group of gay composers with him, he travelled openly with the men who he was in relationships with. Poulenc was openly gay. Need I go on...? Perhaps if you're not going to do some reading of scholarly articles, a quick Google search would help remedy your ignorance.

[@dunkleosteus430]

I don't think Chopin was bi

[@Joshua_Froschauer]

Yes

[@davidemmet7343]

Liberace may have been gay. Freddie Mercury might have been bi Elton John is non binary Janis Joplin had some straight relationships David Bowie and Jimmy Page had relations with minors. Michael Jackson might have been asexual Led Zeppelin might have engaged in sexual activities involving fish

[@faoziahnuraddini9450]

Asian who learn classical music for 48 hours a day: 👁️👄👁️

[@MrExiledgooner]

Slowly becoming white

[@myss109]

What the brain ain't brainin

[@zreeragkn]

​@@myss109it's that Ling Ling mathematics

[@SmplyMJ]

Only 48 hours. Back in my day I had to do 72. Soo privileged

[@brightr9913]

That's a must if that's what it takes to be paganini

[@Peeramidz]

As a cellist who plays in an orchestra, she is clinically insane

[@flyingmonkeydeathsquadronc968]

I'd say intentionally miseducated by a death cult intent on destroying western civilization to erect a new "utopian"(always dystopian) order.

[@Lily.M.]

As a professional of playing the worlds smallest violin I want to invite her to my concert

[@bestdjaf7499]

Those lunatics are all over the Academia. They can't create. They have no talent. They are just paying & the Universities are keeping them around. So their Major is to complain about things they can't do.

[@Wither_Strike]

this makes slightly less sense before you realize the english language is stupid and that c makes a ch sound instead of a s sound, i thought you were racists against cells for a minute

[@nilssonakerlund2852]

Gee. I didn't know that classical music was only written in the 18th century. 🙄 Is this tic tocker suggesting that I have to listen to gangsta rap and sing about murder and hos and drug deals to be politically correct?

[@classeontop7403]

My cousin in the Philippines told me that European Music is valued as the greatest music over there.

[@jamescantorne3720]

actually no. I'm from Philippines. I am a fan of old school opera. Renata Tebaldi visited Manila along with Franco Corelli, they were invited by Imelda Marcos - even the media does not know (or care) about that fact. The latest school journal about opera (any univs) was dated 2018. Philippines is just like america, most filipinos believe taylor swift as something made of (divine) hahahaha

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

That's sad At Least Billie eilish collaborate with Hans Zimmer Ed Sheeran and Ariana grande with Andrea bocelli ​@@jamescantorne3720

[@FBI_agent_4859]

as a black person and a classical musician, i hope that classical music stop reaching people in America since they're just gonna keep adding labels to it. i hate this generation so much.

[@revolutionevolution8571]

But Scott Joplin's Treemonisha is white supremacist, right? 😂

[@KadoTheLion]

As a classical violinist, this woman is insane

[@ericfrate2124]

Thank you from another musician. I'm pretty sure to speak for all Musicians. Music theories is definitely something important.

[@BboyKeny]

"Everything is sexist, homophobic and racist. And you have to point it all out." - Anita Sargeezian

[@m4tta]

who knew i, as a middle eastern child, was actually a victim of racism when playing violin

[@findout2655]

even rockstars praise classical music this lady be cray cray

[@kugelblitz1557]

Seconded

[@DERIVATIVES-mh6ej]

Someone needs to tell her that classical artists of that time were poor nomads abused by the elites and not the elites themselves.

[@isabellamcfall5144]

Yup, they were basically indentured servants and bounced from one benefactor to another. Artists of the same time period were much the same I believe. Many of both didn’t find fame until after their deaths. Many died young. It’s very sad actually:(

[@danim.r2276]

​@@isabellamcfall5144 Mozart died age 36 :( Too good for this world I suppose

[@mandy9775]

​@@danim.r2276 Mozart also does penniless in a mass grave. Just tossed in there.

[@BrazilianImperialist]

They wouldn't mind learning

[@mybrainhurts3727]

If classical music is White Supremacist, so is the internet, her cellphone, running water, and electricity. She better go build herself a hut in the Nevada Desert and eat some scorpions for the rest of her life as repentance for her bigotry.

[@cisium1184]

When your piano teacher tells you, “you’ll never get into Julliard if you don’t practice 40 hours a day.”

[@ianwallace7704]

Ling Ling 👍

[@Aizawa_Fangirl]

LING LING FORTY HOURS

[@evilBreadD-jf9go]

*Juilliard

[@pmadldpc]

TwoSetters arise

[@funsun.]

So classical music isn't valued for it's complexity? Wow I learn something new every day. More notes in 5 seconds classical than 5 min of pop.

[@charmelos1431]

Microtonal music

[@bbvv2967]

@@charmelos1431 do you know about spectral composers?

[@sebastianschweigert7117]

​@@charmelos1431just because music has microtones doesn't make it better. The fact that you even call it microtones is eurocentric terminology. Micro - in comparison to the western scales.

[@charmelos1431]

@@sebastianschweigert7117 the guy was talking about complexity. Thy basically stated the more notes is more complex. More notes don't make music better, so classical music isn't better than pop.

[@theman2699]

People say “cis white men” as if it’s an insult. What has my generation become

[@Fantasylover4709]

Ikr

[@PeopleHaveNoGender]

I get what you mean, yet it technically IS an insult. I'm not "cis" anything, I'm a man. No prefix or suffix.

[@mxcrftaa5508]

@@PeopleHaveNoGender i can relate. I don’t want to be called a cis white male. I am a man and identify as such. I don’t have a problem with calling someone whatever they want (within reason) so long as they do the me the same courtesy.

[@alujis]

Do they realise that 99.9% of the world population is cis??

[@alujis]

@@PeopleHaveNoGender exactly

[@Nyro34]

These are legit the kinds of people who keep racism alive

[@MrNimbus420]

well; libtards are fascist after all.

[@S1D3W1ND3R015]

Yep. Ive always said that the left creates their own racism. Plus i find it funny how they link literally everything to racism but one of their main ideas and talking points (gun control) is actually historically racist but when you mention that fact to them , , , crickets.😂

[@quintonlee4107]

You're absolutely right! She's creating problems that don't exist and things that racial minorities don't even care about

[@IXScasualty]

So true.

[@WFly101]

False. My colleagues told me that only white people are racist. Also I don't know wtf you just typed and I think I'm dying of a stroke right now from all the propaganda in my brain holy hell please help me call somebody the propaganda is too much for me to handle. That was a joke.

[@octosquid48]

Why do these types of people think everything is racist???

[@jamesclarkmaxwell-v2n]

Because they contribute nothing new

[@user-culkepta]

I’m actually offended, as an Asian, that someone would be out of their mind to this extent that they would consider classical music as racist.

[@Sh3ba5843]

She’s just upset she doesn’t have the discipline to even make it through one measure of Moonlight Sonata

[@tomatoglider]

+

[@gsinclair6671]

To be fair I too was annoyed at classical music when I tried the 3rd movement for the first time and realised just how much of a novice I really was.

[@Julius123456789]

Very good point. It seems to be never people that can do anything in these videos.

[@llamalife7210]

Nah, she just mad she can't play Ode to Joy with simply piano

[@Waterwave37]

In terms of beethoven, moonlight sonata is super dry and overhyped, you guys should try some of the better sonatas like the appassionata sonata- Anyway y’all are ignorant, there’s plenty of people who both love classical music and can still recognize it’s historical roots in white supremacy

[@vazjc]

All I heard was, “I’m stupid, believe my stupidity”.

[@PeachesRSweet-ny2pv]

F a c t s

[@LiveExplosive]

Yea like music is music it’s not that deep dumbass Also classical music is more European ofc there is gonna be straight white men composing, they’re European

[@d.a.tsun5104]

I heard (whiny voice) "I don't like classical music and I have daddy issue."

[@LiveExplosive]

@@d.a.tsun5104 hah facts

[@Elvisism]

Facts twisted to fit faulty theories lol

[@Soneiii]

I'm a white supremacist as an Asian, I guess?

[@xiba8703]

You're fully european now😁🤪

[@pomax1464]

there are people in this world that have no business having internet access

[@abstertheprez]

next: bReAtHiNg Is RaCiSt edit: thanks for the likes lmao

[@RCCrawlerz209]

Next thing, rock & roll is racist....🤦🏼‍♂️

[@michaelbender5600]

@@RCCrawlerz209 I've actually heard that argument.

[@yuritzenpresents3113]

Already considered that.

[@RCCrawlerz209]

@@michaelbender5600 oh boy...🤦🏼‍♂️

[@yuritzenpresents3113]

@@RCCrawlerz209 already done

[@iamgenius3784]

They will always find something to call racist.

[@adamsmith1306]

that tik tok was misogynistic, sexist and racist itself

[@joeysmith5086]

Damn those humans...

[@AnimeJesus-xz5fe]

they said the spanish language is transphobic

[@keratos92]

they'll gonna say that calling black panther, _'black panther'_ is racist too

[@The_Killah29]

Then just say: "so what".

[@Jabari722]

I’m black and I love classical music. 😂

[@revolutionevolution8571]

Scott Joplin's Treemonisha is white suptemacist! 😂

[@stashadesilva4367]

Scott Joplin and the fellow jazz composers have left the chat 😂

[@okgoogleplay3500]

I'm white and I am a HUGE fan of jazz 🎺🎼🎶

[@tommack9395]

Yes, Only someone who knows nothing about western music can even rationalize the statement. We build upon what we already have. There are no 12 semitones in western scales without Pythagoras working out 5ths ... there would be no diatonic scales, would be no tempered scale without J.S. Bach. Classical is influenced by folk and folk influences by classical. I do not think Classical musicians would even call themselves such - is just a label we applied to a period to those who made a living writing musical works. All folk music, blues, jazz, rock, soul, hip-hop and all use the elements of melody and more important harmony from all the above. Heck, most modern day ethnic music in Africa even borrow and use western elements today.

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

​@@tommack9395I'm aware Euclid and Eratosthenes were in math Did Pythagoras write sthg for music ? Though in evolution of music video sthg Homer work was set to a stringed instrument

[@tommack9395]

@@PortugalZeroworldcup I think Pythagoras was fascinated with "lengths". Right triangles etc... Anyway he noticed the relationships between octaves and fifths/fourths in string lengths. So he came up with the idea of 12 semitones. It's all about the sound waves. Two waves which sync up sound in resolute while clashing is tension - dissonance. i.e. if "A" vibrates at 440hz the next "A" at half the length vibrates at 880hz (a perfect interval harmonically) - a perfect fifth "E" is then smack between them around 660hz (is 659.2579hz or something like that tempered out). Stacking fifths you end up with twelve, Have you ever noticed the entire western scale is built upon fifths until you reach the starting tone again? Look at a circle of them C, G, D, A, E, B, F♯ (G♭), C♯ (D♭), G♯ (A♭), D♯ (E♭), A♯ (B♭), F, C. Now if we took seven tones starting with F - F, C, G, D, A, E, B we'd end up with what musicians would think of as Lydian in fifths. rearrange in sequence C, D, E, F, G, A, B and is Ionian - the major scale. Anyway, I think early on in music the human voice would be the first instrument. It's a single voice instrument until you add another person. The most likely harmonic component would be at the octave when signing a melody (you see that in most every culture), the next would be at a fifth. We also see the use of droning tones in most music - is a focus tone placing a basic relevance on the melody above it. Western scales by far helped include major and minor intervals - at first especially thirds - in helping to create more complex melodies in harmony and/or laying basic harmonic musical structure underneath (chords). What's melody? It's a tonal expression which creates a series of tensions and resolutions back to "Home" - a root - usually a tone within the underlying harmony. It's syncs into it.

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

@@tommack9395 wait, Heinrich hertz died in 1894 , no way Pythagoras talking about hertz or sound waves 🤔

[@silent_bag2350]

As a Brown girl fuck off, Lacrimosa slaps so hard

[@nussknacker9827]

Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de Saint-Georges Born 25th December 1745 He was black, born before Beethoven and Mozart

[@MusicismoreImportant]

​@@nussknacker9827so was Franz Joseph Haydn But yeah In USA there's Amy beach, Scott Joplin, Aaron Copland, Leonard bernstein etc If she doesn't like it she should leave

[@Aleksandr_Skrjabin]

​@@MusicismoreImportantYour name 💀

[@kylerdaconquer0078]

Verdi did it better

[@Aleksandr_Skrjabin]

@@kylerdaconquer0078Respectfully, I think an hour long Mendelssohn piece is even more entertaining than a 4 minute piece Verdi made,, Respectfully,

[@afkjj140]

Someone needs to look up the definition of racism….

[@rogerlopp987]

It doesn't mean anything anymore !

[@wassman0217]

It wouldn't help. They would just change the definition for themselves... again.

[@mh20162]

I swear they come up with the most random stuff to say and label it as 'racism' or 'white supremacy'. They have way too much time on their hands.

[@geraldinevincent9177]

Agreed

[@deality]

Exactly

[@danieljbruso]

As an average classical fan, I could go for some “La Danse Macabre” by Camille Saint-Saens or Gustav Holst’s “Mars, Bringer of War” from “The Planets” to clear my mind.

[@uwilldontdontuwill1276]

What about an 18th century composer Joseph Bologne Chevalier de Saint-George, who was called "black Mozart"?

[@RionE23]

I’m pretty sure that young woman couldn’t even define all of the words she was using.

[@onemanswrld405]

Something tells me she probably doesn't identify simply as "woman"😂

[@UKYusei]

​@@dropkickthedecepticon4009shed perfer to be called an it

[@SorenBlue-it9bv]

​@@UKYusei She'd*

[@thintellect6103]

@@SorenBlue-it9bv what if they identify as a shed

[@TheDuncanStudios2000]

The only thing she can remember is her excessive Starbucks order😂

[@jazzy_for_jesus6048]

Me, a black operatic soprano, singing classical. 🗿

[@ilovedsmp7132]

Love your username 🥰

[@jazzy_for_jesus6048]

@@ilovedsmp7132 aw thank you!! 🥺❤️

[@lauradees4625]

That might confuse her...

[@jazzy_for_jesus6048]

@@lauradees4625 most definitely loll

[@mkultraviolenc3]

Hell yeah girl!

[@renegadesofanarchy289]

TBF there were plenty of female composers back then whose work was suppressed by the sexist culture. A number had male pseudonyms to get around this. My favourite example is Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart’s sister who was actually considered an insanely good composer, colluded with her brother to publish her compositions under his name. Also outside of classical music, non white folk, especially in the 20th century onwards have had a massive impact of music as a whole. Ragtime, blues, RnB, hip hop etc etc

[@dollygiki13]

Exactly! Amy Beach is my personal favorite.

[@benveach9689]

Oh so those old racists were also sexist? Homophobic too? 🥱

[@utvpoop]

Clara Schumann. Louise Farrenc, Maria Szymanowska, Cecile Chaminade

[@jankowalski6338]

They were just groupies. Only men are creative.

[@jackisinforthewin]

​i love chaminade

[@bulbasaurkindahawtngl2345]

Id rather listen to La Campanella than whatever the hell my Pakistani mother listens to

[@Argo123_.0]

La campanella pales to Liszt’s other work. B minor Sonata, Benediction, years of pilgrimage are better. Checkout the operatic fantasies for more catchy melodious virtuosic playing, I like his reminiscences de Norma and Don Juan.

[@pmadldpc]

​​@@Argo123_.0the Dante Symphony is so good too. However la Campanella is also a great work and I would not say that it pales his other works, but rather that we should listen more to his pieces

[@octopuszombie8744]

This is what the OP is talking about. They are saying in comparison to other Liszt pieces, La Campanella sucks as a composition even for an étude. But even that, they'd rather listen to, than what she listens to.

[@bulbasaurkindahawtngl2345]

@@octopuszombie8744 No, I just like it

[@itsm3shadow833]

As a classical pianist, this woman is insane

[@SabianDrummerAAX]

All liberals are insane.

[@JCM_2]

Me who owns books of all of Beethoven's sonatas, bach's sinfonias and Chopin's predludes, nocturnes and waltzes:

[@LiveExplosive]

Yes

[@paladin1726]

As a person who cannot play twinkle twinkle little star, I agree.

[@NikHuhr]

*Yep... upright concert bass player here... it doesn't apply as much to piano players, but more than half of my role models were black men.*

[@groogle9699]

As a violinist, classical music started evolving in the 12-1400s, is still evolving today, has been composed and performed by men and women from many different cultures throughout history and is enjoyed by millions of people all over the world. Yeah, I'd say that it's probably about the most inclusive music genre in the world.

[@kurtsherrick2066]

The thing is there is and has been some great Black Instrumentalists performing in Orchestras.

[@hrw1936]

It seems like mostly women like classical music.

[@jennamedlyn]

I also hate the whole "they were all straight" there is tons of evidence that Tchaikovsky was gay. There are also other composers this is true for. There were also composers of color and female composers who wrote classical music. Maybe these people should take a page from their own book and "education" themselves

[@rebeccarice9760]

@@jennamedlyn classical musician here 👋🏻 ….. YES. Clearly the girl took her intro to music class and thinks she knows everything now 😂

[@jennamedlyn]

@@rebeccarice9760 I'm a classical musician too and you are so right

[@jacobstarr9010]

Get this woman the most beautiful classical pieces known to man and watch her change her mind as she sheds tears from the pure bliss.

[@cevinzeke5110]

I fucking love being white

[@PortugalZeroworldcup]

The music composed before Shostakovich, Gustav Holst is valuable forever

[@yun.k]

bro that girl literally just said "its white supremacy" despite millions of different races with a job as a classical musician rn 🗿🗿

[@xionplague9640]

When life is too good to find anything to really complain about

[@chrissyhill7890]

Exactly

[@Morinnah_Bayle]

Yep. She's a spiteful bored twit who lacks the discipline and heart to actually be a force for good, and just flails about virtue signaling instead.

[@miiim]

Irk?!

[@noname420]

true

[@LukeH2]

Sadly I am part of the generation that's doing all this crap and it's scary to think that I'll have to deal with this crap as an adult even worse a kid. I don't know we're your stand point is on "religion" but I'm scared for fellow Christians that might have to deal with crap and lose their way Not only them but people in general.

[@TheOrgan1st]

*Sad Schubert noises* for context, he was supposedly bisexual

[@unconvention1]

As an African American this is not the alliance we need.

[@pixie77531]

exactly lol

[@ynwyoungin8755]

As a Carribean black man I'll wish y'all Americans luck or just come to us where everybody blacker than a motherfucker. Also there's only two genders 😐

[@otisfresh2719]

"Now the White liberals aren’t White people who are for independence, who are liberal, who are moral, who are ethical in their thinking, they are just a faction of White people who are jockeying for power the same as the White conservatives are a faction of White people who are jockeying for power." -Malcolm X

[@planetsmooth1386]

There are clay tablets written in Egypt that was written by black men way before Beethoven do more extensive research all of the original writings was don by black men so you are wrong and brainwashed by America just like the rest so sit down!

[@TheRealxVincent]

​@@otisfresh2719 today, the Republicans are more in the center, while the Democrats (the party that created the KKK) are so far left that you can't even have a reasonable conversation with them. They talk about inclusivity, while starting organizations like BLM that gave most of their funding to organizations run by old white men that fund Democratic campaigns for old white men, and used the rest to make the families at the top of the organization rich. Then they have LGBTQIAMAP pushing for pedophilia and grooming children. But people get behind them because they just go with what they hear instead of looking into it.

[@hotdot10]

Wow didnt realise the consequences of my ballet training as a child were so dire, traumatic & oppressive - poor me 🤣🤣🤣

[@kurtsherrick2066]

YOU TOOK Ballet! You racist! Haha! Just joking. I do love Watching some Ballet. I loved dancing when I was young. I respect the hard work it takes to be a Ballet Dancer. The Pros gave up a lot of their childhood to dance that Beautifully.

[@kurtsherrick2066]

@»Įñ§åńę Īdįøt« {Happy Halloween! 🎃} Shame on you! Please keep on Dancing! May God bless you and yours!

[@sarahberkner]

I took ballet too and one song we danced to was Through Heaven's Eyes from Prince of Egypt and another was some Christian contemporary song.

[@hotdot10]

@@kurtsherrick2066 Haha I must be really evil huh? I guess all the girls who choose to twerk are going to heaven lol 🤣🤪🤐

[@stpbasss3773]

Ballet is a secret Nazi recruiting technique 😂

[@riverdonoghue9992]

Bach is my favourite cis male white supremacist composer. Love Vivaldi too.

[@bradycall1889]

As a big opera fan, aspiring opera singer, and organist this makes me cringe.

[@0rez1]

She looks exactly like the type of person I imagined when I think of someone who want‘s to be offended for no reason lmao

[@Peter-ui6ey]

the current number of likes on this comment is 2 to the 4th. I was doing Algebra when I saw this, and the intrusive thought fell out

[@alfredohumberto2222]

You are offended by no reason

[@michaeldobson107]

Just what race does this idiot think inhabited Europe during the 18th century?

[@deckogecko2008]

She's definitely THAT Twitter user.

[@Yurindeep]

The purple hair is a dead giveaway...

[@cadensmith1359]

or or and hear me out, they were the most technically well-composed pieces of their time and still are to this day

[@lovetolovefairytales]

❤️ 🎶🎵

[@Monkchelle_Kongbama]

I mean not really by any stretch of subjective or objective long shots. There tons more complicated music past and present and theres tons more appealing music past and present. Classical music just got put on a pedestal for being the genre of royalty. Stuff like pub music and cletic folk existed during this era too, but it isnt treated with that same superiority since it didnt possess that original status.

[@mrknarf4438]

@@Monkchelle_Kongbama they didn't state "complicated", just "well-composed". As for "pedestal", I think if you listen to it you'll understand why it's held in such high regard, historical reasons aside.

[@Monkchelle_Kongbama]

@@mrknarf4438 damn, your right, i somehow dismissed an entire genre, nay, era of music without being informed of its structure or history, hell i have never even listened to these masterpieces, how ignorant is I.

[@prissylovejoy702]

Isn’t it because of the math involved in music like that? Seems like I heard something about a relationship between math and music.

[@josephiroth89]

Personally, my favorite American composer is Aaron Copland. Look up his Hoedown sometime.

[@monsieurbaguette1458]

As a classical person , this is outrrrrrRRŘŔÄÅĢƏeØus.

[@lukeistilted864]

This is the definition of “It’s not that deep bro”

[@vae8652]

“I don’t like or understand classical music so I’m gonna say you’re racist for appreciating it” 😂

[@FrenchLightningJohn]

communist hate arts because it is an expression of oneself and you have to conform to the regime so they can't let you do that

[@sync4103]

She probably thinks für elise was written by mozart

[@bruh-lt5bi]

Except she didn't say that, did she. She is saying that in the west we put classical music on a pedestal because of eurocentrism, not that you are personally racist for liking it or even that she doesn't like classical music. I don't know why this is so hard for so many people to understand

[@Swissgar0]

​@@bruh-lt5bi Because it's bullshit, we put talent on a pedestal. The works of these artists in the 1800s are works of art that have stood the test of time even centuries later.

[@aria2436]

​​​@@bruh-lt5biWe put classical music on a pedestal because it's fucking good music, hope that helps. It's the perfect example of how music can convey and create hundreds of emotions in one piece, without the person writing it having to say a single word. And it's doing all that while also being incredibly satisfying to the ears and to the soul as a result. Plus, trying to play most classical pieces in their entirety is the ultimate test of a musician's skillset and musicality, given that they were created by some of the most talented musicians ever.

[@Herr_Gizmo]

Therapist - "Female Ben Shapiro does not exist" Female Ben Shapiro:

[@hazelnutlynn]

As a black person I have never even thought of thinking about this I love Classical music

[@kateroyall1911]

When she said classical music is 18th century white males… uhhh girl we got classical music from the renaissance up until today. She’s going to flip when she finds out classical music influences literally all other forms of modern music.

[@VARMOT123]

*western music

[@mayamartin7359]

Speaking as a classical musician and teacher , the Classical period lasted roughly from 1750-1820… anything too far before or after may still be western art music, possibly even of the common practice era (Baroque/Classical/Romantic, or what laymen call ‘classical’) but no, we don’t have Renaissance Classical. 😊

[@kamalsinghbhandari8288]

Hindustani classical music is well documented and have science behind so called well documented Do re mi fa 🤣🤣

[@irochristodoulou6505]

It still sucks

[@nooneatnowhere]

There were actually some female composers that influenced the aforementioned composers...beethoven was one such artist.

[@panganibangani]

“Straight composers” Tchaikovsky: damn they still don’t know

[@daanbusch6255]

How about handel and Britten and Aaron Copland.

[@chrisy367]

Was about to comment this

[@robertwalker2052]

Andre Watts, Ned Rorem, Peter Pears, Leontyne Price, George Walker, etc etc mean nothing to you?

[@keithrobertson9075]

I was going to say that! 😂

[@PassionPno]

The lady said classical. Tchaikovsky is romantic.

[@UrFriendlyNeighborhoodBassist-]

Joseph Bologne: 💀 For those of you who don’t know he was an incredible black composer in the 1700s. We’re playing his first symphony. Brilliant musician. That song is so hard we had to move it back to the next concert 😂

[@Alisonsgachaverse]

Yesss

[@Shosty]

So, someone who doesn't have enough knowledge on a subject made a video sharing their malformed opinion, then someone who doesn't know anything about the subject but assumes themselves correct about everything made a video reacting, then thousands of people who don't know anything about anything were predictably tricked into believing that 1. any serious academic would agree with the first person, and 2. the second person's arguments hold any logical or cultural value. The discussion that the first person is brushing up against is long historied and well documented, if you want a youtube crash course then i would recommend adam neely's video on the topic.

[@sundus928]

Love this comment.

[@worldmusictheory]

it is considered the highest form of art music because the level of creativity and knowledge of music it takes to compose something like a symphony is insane. it takes a lifetime of education and training to become a master. its an insult to place them on less of a pedestal than a modern musician who just sings over the same four chords or variations of it, no matter what race you are.

[@cinnabar_]

fucking preach

[@skellybonz5467]

exactly. And i don’t think she understands most of those composers were far from elite members of society. Beethoven for example died a poor man, Mozart died at 36 and was chucked into a pit full of bodies, etc. They were all living paycheck to paycheck

[@classicalricky]

Ikr!!! Like, I've been studying music all my life & even I don't fully understand it (but then again, I'm only 23 atm)

[@Marie-Fey40]

Preach ❤

[@spinylightgaming]

Wasnt one of them deaf?

[@joshclontz1306]

She says it with a “look how special I am” smile

[@rosequartzjewelryllc]

They both are. Obviously neither is right and both are somewhat right. It’s not black and white there’s lot’s of grey. getting overly upset about one side of this “argument” is stupid.

[@Mongaloose]

Making a Woke TikTok, Step One: Come off as self-righteous and pretentious as possible.

[@johnlennon2333]

​@@rosequartzjewelryllc let's agree that you brains are pea

[@rosequartzjewelryllc]

@@johnlennon2333 let's agree English is not your first language.

[@johnlennon2333]

@@rosequartzjewelryllc let's agree that English is my first language - I was born in Bristol mate - I accidentally put you not your cos of autocorrect and I said your brains are pea as it rhymed with agree I'm calling you pea brained basically mate

[@nussknacker9827]

Joseph Bologne, Chevalier de Saint-Georges Born 25th December 1745 He was black, born before Beethoven and Mozart

[@Alisonsgachaverse]

Biracial*

[@julieglazierwingate260]

As a beginner violist, I am ashamed

[@CadmiumSulfide69]

She cannot be dissing my boys Beethoven, Mozart, and Bach like that

[@floridafrostbite8002]

We must get her Bach

[@hellfaerie]

only real ones are chopin stans 🙏🙏

[@scarletscout2598]

I wanna send someone like this to like the 1800s to 1970s and see how fast they’ll last

[@mayloo2137]

I would love for one of these people to be sent to Victorian London. They would end up in Bedlam (a well-known mental institution of the time) in no time flat.

[@giraffe8554]

14 minutes

[@jimmyweez2992]

​@@giraffe8554 and that's generous

[@user-nr1ol1ip5c]

If only you could, I'd like to see as well.

[@Jacob.Seth.Pulcifer.]

As a fan of classical music myself, I can confirm this person is a liar.

[@Gustavsnaf]

Once i heard this, i Decided it was time to learn for as much Classical/Baroque/Fugue music as possible

[@crustyseashell8848]

the songs literally have no words

[@purple.9919]

The ones of today have the N word slur

[@matthewsteinmeyer4998]

Right!

[@annie5741]

And that's why you call them pieces and not songs.

[@billygugen8104]

Theyre for ppl with intelligence and taste. Theyre not beer commercials.

[@blazed_existence3338]

I thought the same until a friend introduced me to classical pieces containing lyrics. An example would be Mozart's Requiem-Confutatis.

[@mattnoah8309]

I’m starting to understand why other counties look down on America more and more these days.

[@Robert53area]

It isn't even our ignorance. It's our sheer arrogance that our way is the only way and correct way. You know how to spot Americans over seas. They busy looking for American restaurants because they are afraid to eat local food

[@alyssagomez2163]

Meanwhile, composers like Berlioz (Spanish), Puccini (Italian), Palestrina (Italian), Wagner (German), Tchaikovski (Russian), Mozart (Austrian), and Vivaldi (Italian) were all composing in their own distinct style, reflective of their own cultures, and in various languages (opera).

[@oldtimegamer2.098]

With classical music anybody could sit back and enjoy depending on the person music taste

[@JustHereRightNow88]

Majored in music. Heard this before, but after I had gone to South Africa to work on my teaching skills with a group of other students. Everyone there loves western culture and especially classical music. They love their culture and because they appreciate their own they are capable of appreciating others’.

[@charlotte6154]

YES

[@Waterwave37]

Also majored in music- this line of argumentation doesn’t really have to do with what people enjoy exactly. Adam Neely made a great video about it if you actually wanna engage with it

[@aidens4669]

My science teacher would die if she saw this video. We listen to classical music while she teaches us. Shes an awesome conservative, non woke Christian teacher. I'm glad I know her

[@altspencer2264]

she sounds like a great teacher

[@youngconservative]

I love classical music. I listen to it to help me study!

[@mattmackmack9173]

My Lord, your story would give this girl from Tik Tok a massive stroke.. Lol.

[@trevorm0329]

The ironic thing, a large amount of my science teachers have been Christians

[@jamesbarnicks4863]

She sounds great but I got to ask. Why does the Christian part matter? I know having like minded beliefs can matter, but ones religion should hold no bearing on them as a person imo.

[@johnellis414]

The world has gone mad! There is no logic anymore!!!

[@calebbeasley77]

Classical, Baroque in particular, is top tier due to the literal measurable frequencies that the compositions themselves create being akin to what we begin to literally resonate when in our meditative states. Has nothing to do with white, black, green, or blue.

[@NdxtremePro]

When she doesn't even get the time-frame of classical music right, we know how valuable this will be.

[@darealbeesechurger]

That’s what I was thinking💀

[@thepinkelephant2520]

☠️

[@idioticbagel2833]

i knew as soon as i saw her purple hair

[@thekickanoragm8559]

Classical music is middle 18th to 19th century.

[@thekickanoragm8559]

​@@idioticbagel2833What's that have to do with anything?

[@Saucyy..]

bro that was literally the only music out there in the 18th century that many people liked because it sounds amazing

[@abdullahnooreldinalkhawari704]

Please don't make it sound like everyone liked it, there were no TVs or DVDs back then, so, only the british listened to it lol

[@WidgetWW]

The only music out there? Lol so what were people on every other continent listening to?

[@A_Random_Ghost]

​@@WidgetWW Most of them were weird.

[@abdullahnooreldinalkhawari704]

@KillThrottle wdym? Bro, I said that classic music could not be sent to anywhere else because the musicians wouldn't travel those vast distances and there were no DVDs or TVs to stream it! It's like you made a stupid assumption and built my entire response on it! Also, I live in Britain so, ur wrong lol.

[@nikitalvov40]

​@@abdullahnooreldinalkhawari704 bro actually uneducated out here, France, Germany, Russia (in the making), Italy, we're powerhouses at that time. Long before recordings musicians traveled pretty far distances to play their music. It's literally history

[@Snakles08]

What where is Classical music done by European composers appreciated the most, the areas most affected by European culture? I doubt that Mozart was a huge hit in India, not because he was white but cultural influence.

[@Eques2749]

i am from the middle east and i think this is ridiculous

[@explicitgenius5790]

Brett smiling and saying “No I don’t think I will” actually made me laugh we love you Brett ❤

[@davidedgar5923]

It's valued as the highest form of music because it is. It is technical. It is complex. It is beautiful. It is moving. This is not to say that other music doesn't have these qualities, but classical is the pinnacle of them.

[@Waffles2009]

I got into choir, and my instructor is like in classical music, and it also takes math. So if you do classical music or can read sheet music fluently then you have a big brain.

[@amandatinkham3406]

Isn't jazz up there to though?

[@Aubergine1941]

Exactly. That's why it lasted all this time. It touches people. This is also true of a lot of jazz and blues music. And spirituals started in the cotton fields - I think. Beautiful. Who cares about the skin colour of who created it?

[@davidedgar5923]

@@Aubergine1941 absolutely

[@davidedgar5923]

@amandatinkham3406 jazz is a great form, but the technical side of music was developed through the medium of classical. Those same technical traits are found in all western music that followed it. This is why Pachelbel's Canon in D Minor is so prevalent today across so many mediums of music.

[@pizzadahut6073]

People who think like this are doomed and I don’t have time to listen to you or save you. I wish them nothing but the best though

[@user-ln2fd5vh3e]

Don't disrespect Vivaldi like that 😢

[@sienaparente4452]

I can’t deal with these people anymore 🤦🏽‍♀️

[@Deathcatclub]

Your emoji skin doesn’t match your actual skin

[@TerryProthero]

They push the boundaries of what is humanly possible. I didn't think it was possible for a human being to be any dumber, and then they keep surprising me.

[@rodanfan2695]

@@Deathcatclub👴🏿

[@c.b.h1151]

I. HATE. Gen. Z.

[@p_manash_]

​@@c.b.h1151 Us 🫂

[@mariahgina1224]

Everyday I believe more that social media was the worst thing to happen to us.

[@LaurenG3301]

I believe it's going to be the downfall of society 🤔

[@tacticalteddy5556]

@@LaurenG3301 it already is. you cant see it happing already? We are so connected to a man made world that we are disconnected from the real world. And some people cant tell the Difference between the two which leads to an unbridgeable gap when trying to reason with them or show them the truth.

[@ravenclaw_ramen]

sooo true.

[@LaurenG3301]

@@tacticalteddy5556 yes I'm aware. I'm talking about total collapse happening because of it. I should have elaborated more.

[@Mini-Toast_]

That's because you pay attention to this kind of content. This reactionary content only highlights the worst things. How about giving attention to the positive ways social media has helped? Try engaging with that. Maybe even do it yourself. Otherwise, if it's so bad, leave. Seriously your so busy examining others, have you taken a hard look at yourselves.

[@darian.the.barbarian]

I cant stand living around insane people anymore 😓

[@khalilthe21th]

Who in the bloody hell would think of such a bad thoughts! Every Ladies and Gentleman are allowed to hear the most beautiful classical music. Any race does not included to music. I must say, she is from Twitter🍷🎩

[@claranadine1086]

I shall continue to enjoy my Tchaikovsky, thank you very much 😂

[@Thewesmen67]

Wow you’re are so privileged. Keep being so uptight and keesh

[@cutiewitch3992]

You maybe would like Rakhmaninov, try it out if you haven't:)

[@claranadine1086]

@@cutiewitch3992 oh absolutely! I love Rachmaninoff ❤️

[@AllGloryToTheOneMostHigh]

At this point - they are going to say the fuckin alphabet is racist because you can spell the N word with all the letters in the song ☠️☠️☠️

[@G.F.SF55]

Oh, are you aware that he was gay? Russian politian offered to not let teach/listen his music on the lands of Russia

[@richieph80]

Honestly, she needs to start apologizing to trees for wasting oxygen.

[@user-mx4is4fx3c]

I remember people saying the student scene in Tar is hyperbolic and unrealistic. It's not.

[@warpnweft2192]

Scott Joplin has left the chat

[@angieeae_]

as an asian girl, I can confirm that twoset will be angry.

[@nereid149]

as a twoset fan and a violinist, i can also confirm.

[@thepinkelephant2520]

As another Twoset fan and a trumpeter, I can offer my confirmation

[@Ling_Ling40]

TwoSet Gang is everywhere🤟🏼 Ling Ling will be disappointed if it sees this

[@good_nightmares-czh]

Yup... As somebody who plays three instruments and as a fan of them, I can confirm it too

[@applefish745]

Sacrilegous!

[@alyssasmith5758]

"STRAIGHT males" Tchaikovsky: I don't even exist baby I'm just a figment of your imagination

[@moderatecanuck]

White cis gay men are the white straight males of the LGBTQ

[@thatcrazywolf]

Clara Schumann, Florence Price, Scott Joplin, and Joseph Bologne too.

[@jennamedlyn]

@@thatcrazywolf William Grant Still and Samuel Coleridge-Taylor. Along with contemporary musicians and composers like Jessie Montgomery, Wynton Marsalis and anyone with the last name Kanneh-Mason.

[@jennamedlyn]

Also Scarlatti, Copland and Bernstein

[@r.achel044]

she'd probably say ableist until she remembers beethoven was writing music after he became deaf...

[@misterflamingo]

I'm reacting wayyyy too late on this but couldn't help it. Yes, racism was surely common in that time. homosexuality was less accepted too, but it was present in Europe. But context does matter: people lived in tribe-like cultures: travel was expensive, risky, unreliable and very long. You didn't meet many foreigners, let alone foreigners from different ethnicities. And of course, no direct communications. And yet, you find this gem in Mozart's opera "die Zauberflote" (the Magic Flute): Papageno the bird catcher and Monostatos the slave master black man accidentally scare each other off. Then, Papageno remarks "Am I not foolish that I allowed myself to be frightened? There are black birds in the world, so why not black men?" Some composers, at least, were more open minded than others :)

[@deadshiro3446]

Classical music is a form of music highly used in almost every TV show, movie, video game we play, it shows so much of the much needed emphasis on things that can't always be displayed purely through showing something or dialog. Classical music is a form of art through music as any other music is, and literature is all much the same, ofc with some differences. Also, history fact, if I'm not mistaken, the irish celts actually had believed that speaking of things, instead of writing it down, help retain memory and, in turn, enhances it. Tyvm