What Did I See at GSX?

[@saltyroe3179]

This is the most important topic you have discussed. What is important. What guides your life. People are the most important. Unfortunately to many of us are more interested in wealth and power and will do terrible things to others. I see so much corruption in local government where the elected officials do not do their job for the citizens but somehow get rich on the taxpayers dime. This is a bipartisan horror.

[@saltyroe3179]

:-)

[@FlexDRG]

It's capitalism to sell solutions to things rather than spending less and work on prevention (like the school lunch etc) to reduce the need for these "security" solutions. And on top of that, seeing all these "preventative" measures instills fear, and governments like a fearful base. At least fearful of others, not in fear of their government. But the people have a lot to fear from their government, at all levels, as well as from the judiciary and executive branches.

[@MichaelBerthelsen]

Honestly, I don't think it's the US government directly as much as it's the US government allowing for rampant, uncontrolled Capitalism, and the EXTREMELY LIMITED big players just being as greedy as humanly (or inhumanly, honestly) possible. The government is (intentionally) ineffective, benefiting those that already have FAR too much.

[@Tome_Wyrm]

@@MichaelBerthelsen Is there a meaningful difference between "This company wants me to do this thing and they will pay me millions of dollars to do this thing" and "I want to do this thing"? So long as corruption is legal (or anti-corruption measures are unenforced. Again, there's no functional difference between these states), what benefits the corporations peddling expensive solutions to problems is what the government will support.

[@sketchyAnalogies]

FEMA has a lot of courses for disaster management/ all-hazard incident response. Many are free. Learning how the fed-bois respond to incidents can be informative, but also... it's just a kick ass system. The Incident Command System (ICS) is super applicable to many situations. Definitely recommend taking the classes you can.

[@charliebravo77]

Thanks for chatting for a couple mins in the lobby Tuesday evening, wish I had seen your talk on the speaker track. Big critique of the conference is that there were too many talks at the same time (my own session had a few competing topics and attendance reflected that). I had many of the same conflicted feelings at GSX. A lot of big brother/surveillance state tech trying to solve problems that are socioeconomic issues and as a big 2A supporter and (somewhat) security expert it's disheartening to see because I know there are so many failure points - and since I'm "law abiding" my own personal security options are diminished when some of these things are implemented in places that are enormous soft targets (again, with many failure points if you know where to look). I do appreciate some of the AI tech that is being used as a way to help triage and present information to a human analyst but it's a slippery slope, like many of the things you discussed. The future is bright *and* scary.

[@DeviantOllam]

Oh yeah, I was astonished at how many parallel tracks they were running

[@jmr]

Ham radio is about helping. Lots of "preppers" being hard core but also a lot of us are doing day to day good like storm spotting.

[@itwasrightthere]

The Hurricane Network is always ready to go. I need to start doing more.

[@dailythenoob]

I wish the barrier to (legal) entry weren't so high, that won't be changed but it needs to be. Also kinda maybe not being "allowed" to encrypt your transmissions is insane.

[@jmr]

@@dailythenoob It's very easy to get the license now that Morse code isn't a requirement. If you don't want to take any test GMRS is an option. GMRS is much more powerful than most people realize. The ban of encryption on Ham radio is annoying but it also makes sense. With encryption it would be difficult to stop misuse and abuse of the spectrum. For instance you might get a bunch of commercial entities using public frequencies to conduct business.

[@BryanTorok]

@@dailythenoob Morse Code was dropped as a requirement for all Amateur Radio license classes in 2007. Study books and classes are readily available and even on the Internet. Not only is online study a thing, you can now take the test online.

[@ibex485]

Thank you for saying what so many of us have been thinking for so long.

[@Scully1800]

I like the way you speak and your thought process. A true pro as always!

[@DeviantOllam]

I appreciate that 😁👍

[@perfumedmanatee6235]

When the apocalypse comes, be ready... to help

[@danirizary6926]

That is a wonderful saying. Thank you Perfumed Manatee.

[@tyranneous]

Build a longer table, not a higher wall.

[@DeviantOllam]

OMG I love this

[@tyranneous]

@@DeviantOllam I'd love to claim credit, but it's a very old adage!

[@QEsposito510]

We’ll build both! Wall/table extension and retrofitting services are now available via Exley Construction. Prepare for the coming struggle (trademark)

[@bear4278]

I agree with you mate. I recently saw a video for a piece of metal that you slot into the bottom of a classroom door in case of a school shooting. Firstly, I was concerned at how seemingly stupidly easy it would be to defeat, but then the use case sunk in and… WTF… is that really the direction we want to go in dealing with the issue?!?

[@Wheezs]

The best thing we can do is talk to people in person and have quality conversations

[@bubbleentity]

"Yes and no" " some of it is grotesque " yup, agreed. But Dev, not all your audience is in the states. On that note, Hi from NZ

[@DeviantOllam]

hiya from way up here in Norte America!

[@saltyroe3179]

When I took an AI class at UCLA the early 1980s, my favorite definition of AI was: An attempt to replace humans with somelthing lower cost. 4 decades latter it still describes most AI well. Most tech that is claimed to be AI is not.

[@Bbonno]

I sometimes find myself watching videos with white surfer dudes having fun. They could be from California, Hawaii, Australia... but when you see gated homes surrounded by concrete walls crowned with barbed wire: then it's South Africa. A sad thing to be recognised by....

[@QEsposito510]

What does this mean?

[@Tome_Wyrm]

@@QEsposito510 We spend a lot of time, money, and effort trying to keep certain people out for certain reasons. It's rather sad to think that the South Africans inside and outside those walled compounds are pretty much the same, except the ones inside have money and invent reasons to keep the people who don't have money from interacting with them.

[@QEsposito510]

@@Tome_Wyrm I’d consider googling race-based crime stats in SA if you want to make sense of why those people stay in gated communities…

[@KarltheKrazyone]

I would love to hear you and Robert Evans talk about the doctored pager thing. He covered it well, and the facts are largely out there, but from a point of view of what can we do to help explain it to people who might freak out, and how we can respond regardless of where we are. Where I'm at, I've got a feeling if we do see legislation coming from it, it will a punitive over reaction (flew a week ago, domestic, and totally different security protocols in the two airports)

[@curtolocknkey]

You mean actually talk to each other face-to-face. What a unique concept? 😂😊

[@nullspace3980]

This is a kinda shift left thing and it's always been a huge fight in physical and cyber security unless maindated. Proactive/preventative is always passed up and thus we are stuck in a reactive posture which lasts for 2 weeks and then everyone forgets. I blame our stupid lizard brains.

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

I think there's 2 huge problems that make preventative action hard: 1) Lead time. You can react a lot faster than you can prevent. Prevention in the world of crime and poverty takes years to decades to really pay off, it takes minutes to install a security camera and days to hire someone to watch it 2) Skill set - physical security is a very different skill set to the sociological knowledge and skills required to tackle crime at a system level, which means that it's effectively out of scope for the physical security industry, they wouldn't really know where to start. Then there's all the structural issues - poverty is stigmatised in most of the world and a lot of people see mitigations of poverty as somehow rewarding laziness, the people paying for physical security aren't operating at a scale sufficient for them to switch over to prevention on their own (an individual school can afford gun detecting cameras but they can't afford to fix all of gun violence for instance), wanting to seem tough on crime etc etc.

[@chrisburns2172]

What you're talking about, the difference in values, is kinda what I see as one of the key cultural differences in thinking between the US and Western Europe.

[@mahohmei]

Did GSX have anyone hawking those "classroom barricade" devices?

[@DeviantOllam]

tons of them were there, yeah

[@Aradin56]

Also! What do you think of the MCX pistol chassis?

[@BurningMonkey]

that hoodie is amazing my heart aches that I am not able to make it to various Brutalities due to being out of work I would have loved to have seen it in person

[@kjworrell2952]

Voting only matters if every day after the vote we hold those voted in actively and authentically accountable

[@danielpirone8028]

Thank you for this and all you do! Hope to bump into you around Seattle sometime…

[@ImpactWench]

My dad changed a lot between the age of 45 and 60. Part of it was having to come to terms with his feelings about having a trans daughter. I like your videos a lot more now than I did a few years ago. At the same time, I'm sure it wasn't easy going through that and... idk. I'm talking about my dad, of course. Or am I.

[@indoorkangaroo3431]

Well said, we’ve got more recent issues over here in Australia of ‘youth crime’ and unfortunately the politicians are reaching for the ‘tough on crime’ phrase, not that being tougher means you’ll revive anyone who’s already died or prevent the next injury or death. It kinda reminds of the angle of a funny SMBC comic ‘SMBC - Superman: A Transitional Power Source’. People want to do immediate good but catching criminals doesn’t prevent crime, the hard unthanked work of taking care of our people and building communities prevents crime.

[@NatesRandomVideo]

Have always appreciated your candor and honesty even when I disagree with you at times, Dev. Being a tad older, I hear some hints of burnout and mid-life crisis starting to sneak in. (And that’s normal.) Hehehe. Somewhere around your 50s you realize you can (and will) continue to help people, but an awful lot of them don’t want or heed your help. And you can (and will) continue to help those who are receptive - but you also realize the rest will continue on … as will “the security industry”, “corrupt politicians”, any of the bad stuff that’s bothering you right now. And then a quick peruse or deep dive into any history book will confirm it. Love, self-sufficiency, and helping those who aren’t or can’t be, whenever you can … is all you can do. That other stuff will be still going on long after we are worm food. Do the best you can with the time you have. Had to pause and share thoughts while running errands. Going to go wave at a business’ motion detector door and chuckle as I head in to drop off some stuff. Cheers!

[@meatharbor]

I'm not exactly a big anarchy guy but I do love me some mutual aid and direct action. I'm particularly fond of the Black Panther model.

[@DeviantOllam]

People's Free Ambulance Service FTW

[@danirizary6926]

Black panthers drag the carcasses of prey into trees to preserve them from scavengers. I guess this could be a model for disaster preparedness. I could hoist a yeti cooler into my porch rafters.

[@DeviantOllam]

@@danirizary6926 I believe you and i are talking about different Black Panthers 😂

[@that_morrigan6184]

7:50 yay surprise magpie mention! Loving her latest book! (Shameless magpie plug it's a fantasy book with a teen witch who swaps places with her friend to go join the witches it's so good!!) Sapling cage. Book one of a trilogy

[@DeviantOllam]

Absolutely, I know that one of my friends who had a surgery coming up wanted it so I sent her a copy. I often wonder if there are audiobook versions of her work... I could listen to her voice for hours and hours and hours

[@that_morrigan6184]

@@DeviantOllam I know she's narrated a number of her short stories and even the first Danielle Cain novella on various podcasts over the years and it's always great to hear her read her own works! The sapling cage audiobook is narrated by Jackie Meloche who does a knock-it-out-of-the-park amazing job!

[@x--.]

Spot on. Just a fraction, just a fraction of this "security" money could move the needle for so many people, save so many lives, bring so many lives meaning and yet.... here we are trying to build a better mousetrap.

[@OneNvrKnoz]

I can’t like this video and its message hard enough!

[@fredriksjoblom5161]

When the deviant is the most sensible person in the room... ❤

[@TitaniumTrial]

The Magpie shoutout!! Deviant on a CZM podcast when? 👀

[@philyork7347]

Thanks for this.

[@DeviantOllam]

Any time 👍

[@Aradin56]

What do you mean by your statement "Why have a border?"

[@cassandradawn780]

borders are made up

[@Tome_Wyrm]

Literally that? Ask yourself the question, and then question your answer, and then question your answer to that. Why have a border? What purposes do they serve? Are there alternatives? What are the harms? What are the benefits?

[@DeviantOllam]

other folk in the replies beat me to it. borders, like all nations, are made-up concepts that exist because people say they exist. plenty of folk question why we have borders at all. heck, look at the EU with the Schengen area.

[@Aradin56]

@@DeviantOllam I have never heard of the Schengen area, I'll look into it. I just can't imagine a world without borders though. I'll have to work on that.

[@thedownwardmachine]

Jim Jefferies once had an anti-gun comedy rant about how pro-gun people (like me) are supposedly concerned about safety yet never go to security door conventions. And he's right, most of us don't. A lack of concern for safety belies the fact that most people like guns for their appeal rather than for protection. This manifested most clearly when preppers refused to wear masks during the pandemic, once the disaster turned out not to fulfill their sexy post-apocalyptic visions. This is why I carry an IFAK on me everywhere, because if you don't care enough to try and save a life, you have no moral right to demand the capacity to take one.

[@iluvhistory2]

100% agree!

[@punksci6879]

So what I'm hearing is that the best security tool is a guillotine?

[@imark7777777]

It's the middle of the night, so I am not yelling and screaming that this is a West Virginia call out!

[@frep420]

I teach soldering at the library and also run the repair cafe once a month. Also, the Gambler 500 is the world’s largest trail cleanup. I attend 2 per year, and try to spread good will and pick up litter in East Tennessee. I also helped build SV Seeker in Tulsa Oklahoma, he lives on the Gulf of Mexico now. Do what you love, teach others that care. Talk to your neighbors, can some tomatoes, and buy some bitcoin!

[@CanadaFree-ce9jn]

Fear is good for profits.

[@kuukeli]

Thank you for posting

[@DeviantOllam]

You are most welcome

[@QualityDoggo]

AI focuses on a lot of "active" measures which tend to be the creepiest and riskiest. Stronger glass, doors, bollards? Cool. Works by default. Provides safety & durability even when there is no threat. Better scanners and cameras? Creepy. Has someone "watching". Only relevant while the thing they are supposed to deal with is happening. Of course, the latter gets a lot of hype and attention. It's definitely important to keep the purpose - better safety - in mind, not just which one will be more profitable for the vendor.

[@Greyboar]

Dev on Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff when?

[@DeviantOllam]

I've been on Magpie's other podcast (Live Like the World Is Dying) but i'd always join her for another session. Heaven knows what I'd talk about on CPWDCS, however!

[@Greyboar]

@@DeviantOllam Holy crap, my first KZbinr response!

[@DeviantOllam]

@@Greyboar if I were more of an expert there's a chance I could speak to that. I'd have to do quite a bit of reading first, however 😁💚

[@TheHumanSimulator]

Great video as usual! Question about the company using AI to look for patterns and get a pop up in front of a person's eye. Was that Zero Eyes?

[@kjworrell2952]

Did you post the link to the study you mentioned? I don't see it and I'd be very interested in reading it While I'm not personally part of the security industry I appreciate everything you shared.

[@wobblysauce]

Classic the Haves and the Have nots.

[@AuthenticUnicorn]

Your heart shows so strongly here and I adore you for it. 💗

[@DeviantOllam]

Thank you so much, my baby ☺️👍💚

[@AuthenticUnicorn]

⁠@@DeviantOllamof course, my love 💜💚

[@AdMan-The-LabRat]

Back in ~2007 I got to go to a GovSec Convention in DC and it was very interesting to see the post 911 offerings. I left with the feeling that Security is similar to Western medicine, its meant to keep you alive, Vigilance, strength and health are the end users responsibility. Thanks for all you do, this smile is for you! :-)

[@Studio23Media]

Dev for Congress! 🙌🏻

[@MrXKOK]

Deviant for public office 20XX?

[@DeviantOllam]

😏👍🗳️

[@TomSidProductions]

What lav do you use?

[@DeviantOllam]

I'm playing with piping either a teeny Rode or a small Shure into my Rode Wireless pack nowadays

[@pault1289]

This, prevention is a lot more cost effective and you'd think that would appeal to a capitalist society.

[@MrGundawindy]

It would be nice if your country would provide mental health support, but given that it doesn't provide physical health support I'm not holding my breath waiting for mental health support. 🤷‍♂

[@nickolasthefrog]

Whistler: I want peace on earth and goodwill toward men. Abbot: We are the United States Government! We don't do that sort of thing.

[@DeviantOllam]

i adore that movie and love that scene, heh

[@Ron-n2o]

On the subject of disaster response, see also Rebecca Solnits book "A Paradise Built in Hell" (2009)

[@ChrisBigBad]

My spontaneous thought is, that the people at the levers are tough mofos who don't like to even give a little money to "The Slackers" but rather to the other tough mofo CEOs of the hardware-companies, because they Work For It(TM). Also the hardware companies probably produce paper that looks like evidence, while social improvements are not hard science and invite too many "but sometimes" (Hi, Alec!) and "what if"s. They rather spend 2 billion on Proven SolutionTM (their marketing girl said so) than *possibly* waste 200k on what the stoners think might work. Yeah. I feel ya. About "people just following money" - ya, no, maybe? There was a time, when a lot of people just followed orders... That wasn't great. But I kinda understand because it was very clear what happens when people decided to not follow orders. Dude, you're a great philosopher making me think all sorts of things.

[@turinggirl6432]

My opinion is phys security outside of healthclife security: is they keep trying to sell perfection and lie to you about it. With life security its more lets prevent fires or electricution etc.

[@cybergeek11235]

11:05 - uhhhh... _OHHHHH_ okay. I'm tracking.

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

5:50 But don't you realise? You can't give money to The Bad Peopleᵀᴹ. Funding poverty mitigation would constitute paying people to be lazy and not work, which would be giving money to the The Bad Peopleᵀᴹ, money that could be going to the noble tech trillionaires instead! /s

[@smokeysify]

Didnt Washington try decriminalized drugs and it failed badly?

[@DeviantOllam]

no and no. but thanks for sharing a made-up story in the comments, that drives engagement.

[@matthewsciarrotta2118]

And random person in the mirror😅

[@christopherlenahan3906]

I agree that the physical security industry is feeding on the lack of good policy on the front end.. Just to touch on de-criminalizing drugs. As a Canadian, It doesn't work. At least without a happy population and decent and plentiful treatment options. I believe it is the Scandinavian countries that handle it well.

[@rcmrcm3370]

Portugal has(had?) the best program to address it at society level.😊

[@DeviantOllam]

When you say it doesn't work in Canada, I would love to better understand what you mean. Arrests and prosecutions are way down, aren't they?

[@grdnsys]

we don't handle drugs super well here, you can say positive things about this place (Norway) but drugs is most certainly not one of them we have just as much of an issue with this as large parts of the rest of the world for good examples of this being treated well I would probably look at Portugal

[@ThomasAndersonPhD]

I don't quite understand the complaint (but I'm not American). e.g. I'm all for legalization of all substances, but what does that have to do with a company that makes doors or locks? In a world with legal substances, we would still need doors and locks. And substance legality isn't their domain so they don't have any special say in the matter anyhow. It would be like walking into a neuroscience department and saying, "Who needs all this brain stuff?! We should be curing cancer!" Yeah... the cancer researchers are working on that. That isn't the domain of the people working on neuroscience. Different people work on different domains of society's problems.

[@CWGminer]

Drug policy in the US has historically been used as a justification for over-policing marginalized communities. (See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_drugs) Over-militarization of police, sometimes also used to harm marginalized groups, is relevant to the physical security trade show in the form of various policing technologies. Don't worry, it's an easy connection to miss if you're not American.

[@eldias5387]

I've argued similar points Dev made here, specifically in conversations about gun violence. I don't intend to speak for him, but I'll offer my thought on how its connected together. If you take the context of firearms violence you can step up a level of abstraction and ask where all the violent crime in general is coming from rather than mere the firearm sub-set of that violence. When you start looking at things like that you start to notice that "violent crime" and "poverty" have heat-maps that are almost indistinguishable - the areas with most violence happen to be ones with significant socioeconomic hardships. That's, I think, why Dev brought up the "root cause mitigation" points like giving kids food, and expanding economic opportunity. As it specifically relates to drugs, the Illegal drug trade creates a lot of economic incentive that drives gang violence in areas that are impoverished. A similar thing can be said for consensual sex work. If we spent a fraction of a percent of what we invest in combating illegal drugs, or the 'war on terror' in to things that uplifted our fellow countryment we wouldn't need AI-powered security camera observers to activate bullet proof bulkheads in elementary schools or robots to harass the homeless.

[@bosstowndynamics5488]

To add to the other commenters by expanding your analogy, it would be more akin to redirecting a small percentage of the funding for lung cancer research to programs to reduce smoking and improve safety on job sites with dust and gas exposure. It's not as sexy as curing lung cancer but the best way to cure lung cancer is to not get it in the first place and while you'll never eliminate it you'll certainly reduce the size and complexity of the problem, making treatment easier as well.

[@trioptimum9027]

So, the American "war on drugs" was literally and explicitly begun as a war on Richard Nixon's political enemies: hippies and black people. That was the whole purpose. It still is (albeit hippies are no longer the vital political force they were in Nixon's day). Because of that, when you sell equipment that is used by police to prosecute the war on black people, and you know this, and you tailor your sales pitch and your product lineup to that end... Well, if you don't think that's a little fucked up, think about it for another few seconds. (Door King is not the typical vendor on that side of GSX, one might add.) We're also, of course, the country that imprisons more of its own people than any other nation. One might say "the least free country on earth," at least by that measure. So you might think "well doors and locks are a neutral technology, like MRI machines or chemo drugs." Not when they're prison doors and cell locks, they ain't. (And perhaps you believe that in a more just world, we'd still need prisons and cells. Maybe so, but in a world as just as, say, Iran or South Africa, we'd need less than half as many cells. And I like to think that Iran is perhaps not the limit of human ambition, y'know?)

[@ghostedyoutuber263]

Why do you always look at the camera with "SIDE FACE"?

[@Heizenberg32]

He gives the people what they want

[@rcmrcm3370]

It's friendly, not aggressive.

[@YouTube_username.]

looks like the front of his face to me maybe im just tripping

[@DeviantOllam]

😏

[@AuthenticUnicorn]

I can confirm his face is equally handsome from all angles, but everyone has their own preferences and opinions about that. 😉😏

[@vacuousrigger2026]

Deev, you keep expressing interest in fire protection. Do this shit long enough, you'll see dirtbags exist everywhere. Try reading the Technical Committee membership list for various NFPA standards. New rules/regs every code cycle for products/services conveniently delivered by a short list. Better field than some others, but still chock full of the natural course of capitalism. Fun though.

[@BryanTorok]

What are the root causes of violence in our society? Are there any studies to show that school meal programs and rec centers reduce crime? How about this: Studies show that children in poverty have about a 90% chance of climbing out of poverty if they; stay out of trouble with the law, stay off drugs and out of gangs, graduate from high school, and don't get pregnant. Studies show that children raised in a family with a father are about 3 times as likely to succeed. Unmarried births by race: Black: 78%. Hispanic: 58%. Asian: 31%. White: 30%. Prior to the Great Society programs of President Johnson in the 1960s, the rates were about half that. Giving money to unwed women who had children gave an incentive to have children and not get married. We need schools to teach core values, right and wrong, patriotism, and stop trying to feminize little boys into girls. There is a lot more I could write but consider this: If the USA and capitalism is such a horrible thing, why is it that people from every continent are trying to get in here. Now, I am going to admit that unfettered capitalism results in too much of the money centralized in the hands of a small number of people. But, unfettered socialism or communism is worse. Human nature being what it is, there will always be those who seek to accumulate money and/or power and will do so no matter the system.

[@phillipleighton9641]

Dude… As someone who grew up in the same area as you, I have always loved your content and sentiment. Saying “unhoused people” and what not is really polarizing. You have stood on your libertarian values for quite awhile. I’m in the same camp. May I gently suggest, you have started to become a bit political and left leaning. Love ya Brother! That is why I’m posting.

[@DeviantOllam]

what term would you suggest that might be somehow more appropriate? plenty of plenty of people without houses are not "homeless" given that they have homes... sometimes transitory ones (couch surfing), sometimes unsafe ones (squats, encampments), and sometimes theoretical ones (living in cars or simply relying on their community, even if they have no roof over their head)