What Divided The Electorate In 2020 l FiveThirtyEight Politics Podcast

In this installment of the FiveThirtyEight Politics podcast, the crew explores the demographic and geographic trends that divided America in 2020. They also discuss how President Trump’s refusal to concede the election will affect the nation.
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[@zimluura]

Stop censoring Nate!! Or anyone else for that matter! I come here for statistical analysis and profanity!

[@TextOnlySword]

KZbin's algorithm can tell if you're cursing and it hates it.

[@DoctorIntrepid]

Political scientist here. Disagreement usually doesn't lead to violence when it occurs at the level of policy, but when it occurs at the level of process it leads to violence up to even genocide and civil war. That is, if folks think the process is illegitimate then they resort to violence to settle policy disputes. The US is not just a democracy, but a constitutional democracy. It is supposed too depend on the rule of law and employ fair and legitimate processes. So the Republicans are undermining the rule of law because they are undermining the legitimacy of the process. This is what makes it so dangerous. You all may have thought of this already, but I thought it is worth pointing out.

[@rickj9615]

I agree with you… Every morning I get up and I have this incredibly uneasy feeling in the pit of my stomach as I watch what’s going on in my country right now… This overwhelming sense that something is terribly wrong… And something is terribly wrong… Scary times

[@DoctorIntrepid]

I'm sure some Republicans, both elected and unelected, are completely supportive of constitutional democracy and for all the right reasons. Unfortunately, there is also a constituency within the politics that we often call realists and not idealists. Those folks see politics as about power and will do what they can to achieve it and maintain it. Under strict interpretations of this approach to politics the rule of law and constitutions really don't matter. It is about power. Think of some of the remarks of Steve Cannon lately. So you need a crucial number of people in the right places to maintain the rule of law.

[@DoctorIntrepid]

Yeah, Steve Bannon. That was autocorrect.

[@c.j.tonnes7648]

The thing with socioeconomic status is that it's socio AND economic. An assistant professor doesn't make more than a plumber but has more socio status. That's where pure income can become deceiving.

[@richardarriaga6271]

Prof ususally more less than plumber unless they are a tenured science, engineering, business, or law prof. Or possibly a dean.

[@andrewmastin4312]

“Smashing hamburgers and shooting heroin.” I love Clare.

[@bishopofapples]

Perry's comments about how minority voters might perceive the Democrats narrative towards them at 48:00 was insightful.

[@PetePineda]

Perry has great takes, it's great every time he's on the podcast.

[@chessplayer0106]

I am so glad we have a black guy on FiveThirtyEight. Perry really made it clear that a huge dividing line in this election is a person's view on racial issues.

[@sarahharkins182]

I agree.

[@PetePineda]

I know what you mean, but it's more Perry than just a "black guy". Perry has great analysis that is particular to him

[@chessplayer0106]

@@PetePineda Duh

[@jbradleymusic]

"Be healthy, don't smash hamburgers and shoot heroin." Clare is the best.

[@johnpotts8308]

Yeah, but you can't trust pollsters these days. Maybe that's the way to a long and healthy life!?

[@MrTomSmoke]

Biden won. Cope.

[@johnpotts8308]

@@MrTomSmoke I'm glad he did, but the Democrats were expected to make gains in the House and take the Senate, neither of which happened (well, they might tie the Senate, but probably won't)

[@VirginiaBronson]

As usual, Perry is spot on.

[@PetePineda]

More Perry on the podcast.

[@corwin32]

“Hamburgers and Heroin” sounds like a Hunter S Thompson novel.

[@burningsky23]

The sequel to "Drugstore Cowboy"

[@mselwalt]

I think Clare and Nate's follow-up to Perry's points were dismissive. Perry is talking about the growing diversity of suburbs. We all know neighborhoods are racially segregated but that's not his point. And maintaining the "Black" vote can be done if Democrats address the issues Perry raised (e.g., education). His points can stand alone without your correction.

[@ChrisRepp1987]

Ya, education didn't seem to pop much this year. Probably because it was all about Trump and covid-19. But I would hope that education is emphasized by the Biden admin over and over again. It's generally been in the Democrats wheelhouse.

[@IanZainea1990]

538 talking about class. FINALLY! Here's the basics of class: Do you hire people? or do you *get* hired by people? There's the most basic class distinction. Doesn't matter how much you make, that defines your class. If you *get* hired, you're in the working class. There are a couple gradations in the working class. i.e. Professional Managerial Class (PMC), where you have power over others in the working class, but you're not the owner.

[@forcastfascistfuture]

Why does it cut to a photo of Perry every time he talks but everyone else gets video of them talking?

[@grantsparks6554]

Watch Perry when there is a group-wide shot. You will see that, frequently, his video feed is not as smooth and his frame rate is not as consistent when compared to the other 3. It could be because of his recording software or hardware or (more likely, imo) that his connection has a higher latency and is (correctly) prioritizing his voice feed over his video feed. I agree with the decision (likely Galen's) to show a more flattering still of Perry than a stutter slideshow of his camera feed while he speaks. His mouth would basically never line up with his voice, based on the frozen video we do see of him. This is not the first episode I've noticed this.

[@chaotickreg7024]

I watched a few Newsmax videos out of curiosity and now it's showing up on my feed. I think I'll binge your videos to cleanse my feed. Here's a comment and a like so KZbin knows I like your video.

[@stuckin2003]

Clare is always 1000% on point. 🔥

[@zenfer]

I SWEAR if they say "small d democracy" one more time!!!

[@Kasz216]

Nate Silver: Sometimes people aren't dishonest, they are just really dumb.

[@trishaferrand1395]

And often, they are both.

[@bibliopolist]

The very definition of dumb is: "I'd say I’m somewhere in between being a libertarian and a liberal. So if I were to vote, it would be kind of a Gary Johnson versus Mitt Romney decision, I suppose." Nate Silver, 2012.

[@makisov]

💯

[@makisov]

@@bibliopolist you're talking about republicanism that doesn't exist popularly, anymore.

[@juliahaynie2910]

I think that the idea that problems with democracy don’t impact our everyday life, is one with a lot of white privilege. There’s a reason why black women are the most reliable democratic voters, and it’s because they see the impact of politics, without male or white privilege to help soften those constant blows.

[@buckyharris9465]

@Mitch Lang -- Julia Haynie specifically referenced Black women, not "blacks and Latinos." Apparently Ugh's gains among people of color were limited to men. (Also, remember that many college-educated people are paying off huge student loans and aren't feeling like a privileged class.)

[@ShanePHallam]

I think Perry made a great point about Biden's administration not needing as much "transition" since many will have worked in the White House when Biden was VP. Hopefully that helps a rocky transition not have much of a negative effect.

[@pokidoki9264]

I replayed that cold open three times. Hilarious.

[@prestonjensen6172]

Galen: Embarrassed Nate: Disappointed Clare: Confused Perry: Loading

[@zacharybarbanell1064]

Fivey Fox r34 when?

[@kookelly]

@@zacharybarbanell1064 what’s rule 34?

[@nikolaos9652]

Everyone's reaction!

[@TimC887]

If you can’t tell when someone lies to you over 25,000 times in 4 years you probably shouldn’t be permitted to vote....ever again.

[@PyckledNyk]

Nate, Galen, and Perry; you all are fantastic commentators. However, time and again Clare demonstrates why she’s my favorite of the bunch. I love her unique, funny metaphors

[@Barista.Nathan]

38:30 Not a single member of my extended family can identify with Latinx, to make a personal anecdote. A lot of them feel like it's just another White Intellectuals want to decide how we exist and are identified, and not ourselves who make those choices. Much like the constant discourse about, "How Hispanic folks identify" or whatever with the whole Ethnicity vs Race divide. Or even the "Intellectual" discussion about how it's bad that words have gender in Spanish, a discussion viewed by many as led by a lot of nonnative speakers and people who want to enforce Anglo ideals onto us. For better or for worse, that's how they feel, and even sometimes hoe I feel. Most are lifelong Democrats, but that aspect of Democratic messaging rings really hollow with them. For reference, I am third generation, and everyone from my cousins to mis abuelos feel the same way. They don't like Trump, but flowery Democratic language feels very fake and elitist. My dad harps on that a lot.

[@martypoll]

The political divide in America is urban vs rural. Everything else flows from that divide. And this has always been the case and is not unique to America.

[@martypoll]

You might want to discuss ticket splitters in this election as well.

[@darkprose]

It is Clare, you’re right. America itself is a philosophical conversation; our everyday lives in this social contract are inherently philosophical already. Elitism is a related but different problem. We are all philosophers as Americans.

[@psychedamike]

Nate really shines at 28:12 when he talks about how this year was different from 2016. Claire shines at 37:32 when she talks about ethnoburbs and 45's rhetoric. Perry really hits home at 48:00 when he talks about how to win nonwhite voters.

[@jeremyfranklinross]

Earnest polling question- What do voters in the Republicans stand for? What's the ideological locus of the Trumpian era Republican party?

[@robertplatt643]

I just bought a Fivey Fox tshirt to help me relive all this wonderful repartee.

[@HenhousetheRed]

My hunch is Republican leadership will really begin to let Trump go either after the actual electoral college vote in December or the Georgia runoffs in January. Their silence is showcasing their fear Trump circling the drain will cost them in the runoffs.

[@logananderson7881]

Nope. Trump himself maybe sidelined because the lawsuits, but his ideology has proven to energize the Republican voting block.(Americans are highly susceptible propaganda and racial gaslighting) They won't let the momentum die, we will have more Trumpian politicians(It is scary that Trumpian is a word now). We are in a period of party realignment, it just sucks that this time the realignment is Democracy party and Fascism light party.

[@theoldfinalchapters8319]

@@logananderson7881 Nothing light about the fascism the Republicans have become.

[@logananderson7881]

@@theoldfinalchapters8319 Let's not get hyperbolical, they have not called for us to annex Canada or Mexico, they have not banned elections, restructured the entire economy around a race system (we kinda already have this), and force mandatory military service. While children in cages are horrible, it is not mandatory sterilization and euthanization on an industrial level. The Republicans would need to change from Big Government Bad and Jesus Good to liberal democracy is obsolete and the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state is necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties.

[@theoldfinalchapters8319]

@@logananderson7881 You don't seem to understand that none of what you said makes Trump, and the Republican party that backs him, any less fascist.

[@buckyharris9465]

@@logananderson7881 -- Nazism wasn't the only fascist government we've seen. Mussolini, the original fascist, didn't go in for sterilization or euthanasia, and I don't think he relied on anti-semitism. Would you consider Putin a fascist?

[@deyesed]

Claire seemed surprised that she could say the president-elect acts like a responsible person.

[@negatiff3411]

I'm a easy guy- when I see Perry or Laura in the podcast, I press like. Simple as that!

[@AlabasterClay]

Perry Bacon for the win 48:00. You don't appeal to black voters by assuming they are all criminals, nor to Latino voters by assuming they are all worried about their immigration status. The Democratic party has to address topics like education and economics.

[@nathanjamesbaker]

Clare was really great in this episode.

[@OscarSotoJr]

🙄😒 I love how people automatically jump to the Hispanic vote being “terrified” by socialism, and yet the Hispanic vote is what gave Bernie Sanders Nevada, along with winning the majority of Hispanics in many state primaries. This was literally Spring 2020. Analyze better, pundits.

[@vikmanphotography7984]

Mascot paraphernalia sounds sexual? Is Galen a furry or something?

[@andrewmastin4312]

I laughed, but the word “paraphernalia” suggests drug use to me, not sex. “Toys” is more sexual.

[@RollTonight]

Folks say things like "small D democratic" to distinguish democratic processes from activities of the Democratic party. "Small D democracy" doesn't impart any meaning.

[@mrwho995]

That used to be true. But when the very concept of democracy has become so inextricably associated with one side, and its subjugation and suppression tied to the other, it develops a chilling new meaning.

[@masonm600]

Reversion to the Mean! Finally someone brings it up!

[@LiquorWithJazz]

I miss hearing what you're about to eat for lunch :-( Is everyone eating well?

[@GovenorMcLovin]

I made steak, baked potato, and wedge salad for dinner. Yesterday I had chicken taco salad. How about you?

[@LiquorWithJazz]

@@GovenorMcLovin I made a a butternut squash and apple soup.

[@hudsonlee977]

Apparently they're smashing hamburgers and shooting heroin

[@silentnomore3775]

That should be a t-shirt amongst the other Fivey Fox paraphernalia.

[@yeshayaamichai1512]

The cold intro with the "paraphernalia" remark was a good laugh but reminded me of some fan art done in a "Furries style" I, unfortunately, saw one time. Lol

[@1drummer172]

More precisely, “Who Divided The Electorate in 2020?”.

[@trickyfish100]

I could be wrong, but I'll take a guess that it's Orange and rhymes with "dump."

[@sevenfootrat1185]

@@trickyfish100 lump?

[@kevink.7597]

Could it be... Donny Drumpf❓ Personally... I want revenge❕ I want to see the laws of this country do their damned job. Donny 'strike 5' will never submit to the same laws that govern the rest of us.

[@jonathanclowers3161]

@@trickyfish100 it’s not him it’s the left dividing us and calling us racist when we don’t agree with political views they think it racist vs non racist when there are a few racist on both sides but mainly most people aren’t racist

[@linzithelord]

When Nate Silver said that you could not trust the poll, you know the things are really bad.

[@makisov]

On two Americas: you can be educated and be lower-middle class or blue collar and make upper middle class money. The votes could still look vastly different./ On suburbs: If it's a democrat state, you'll find class attracts class and suburbs are more diverse. For example: Microsoft neighborhood

[@josephcorridon9314]

"Asshole Casandra" is a striking phrase

[@realStevenWalk]

"Latte Larry's" at 1:40! Clare with the Curb Your Enthusiasm reference :)

[@eyeofthesquid5787]

How does Perry talk without his mouth moving? I think u guys should just keep the video playing even if it's laggy. Seems awkward to keep cutting to his picture

[@trickyfish100]

What do you think are the 538ers MBTI types? My hunch: Nate: ISTJ. Galen: ENFJ. Perry: INTJ. Clare: ENTJ.

[@codymorse2484]

What is MBTI type?

[@trickyfish100]

@@codymorse2484 Myers Briggs. It's not a perfect science but is interesting.

[@davidwilliams6966]

On my gah, it's like Gilligans Island

[@ohmygoddahal]

why do they use a picture of perry when he's talking instead of the video? :o

[@HA-be5xk]

Why doesn't Perry get a close up?

[@Keil253]

I enjoy this content, but the quality of the presentation could improve. When Perry is in focus, there is no video, only his pic.

[@sarahharkins182]

I didn't realize how much I missed y'all!

[@petuniapop7819]

12:17 - Nate, quick correction. I’m Vietnamese, that ethnicity historically leans HEAVILY HEAVILY republican. They are Vietnam war refugees who left and have very negative views on democrats as being pro-communist. Viets are like Cubans on steroids in this regard. This is the issue with putting all Asian Americans as one group, probably more than any race. You’re talking about half the world, and leaning from Vietnamese extremely conservative to very blue Bangladeshis.

[@psychedamike]

How much of this Republican-ness was passed down to the second generation tho? More recent immigrants (at least younger ones) I know don't seem very Republican either

[@joshuaflask1677]

It also depends on the candidate and their messaging and you are missing the generational gap and variables

[@everettjohnston8259]

‘Hamburgers and heroin’... album name. I got dibs... Also this incredibly sad for our democracy, thanks for your clear reporting.

[@WalterBurton]

Thumbs-up for Galen and Clare and Perry. Nate can take a long walk off a short pier, for all I care.

[@federizz686]

YES! I was waiting for this 😍

[@c.j.tonnes7648]

37:38 *ethnoburbs

[@YoungSchiebsUnleashed]

What about susceptibility to fascism? It seems like the GOP and Trump are using fascist politics and there are probably certain groups that are more open to fascism than others. It could be interesting to explore that as a divide in the electorate.

[@sandeesandwich2180]

I really don't know how you can extrapolate the future of the parties from this election where the number one voting issue was Trump -- against or for.

[@daveclark8337]

Intelligence divided the electorate. If you google the '10 Least Educated states' the vast majority will be Trumpster states. Conversely, '10 Most Educated' went to Biden. Gotta be 9 out of 10 at least.

[@davidgustavsson4000]

I think it's dangerous to assume that's intelligence. "Most educated" could mean upper class. And educated people are more likely to support policy that helps educated people. To say anything about intelligence you'd need to do an IQ test, or at least cross reference grades.

[@buckyharris9465]

Dave Clark -- I just Googled. Among the 10 least educated states, Ugh won 8 of them -- he lost Nevada & New Mexico. Among the 10 most educated states, Biden won them all. David Gustavsson -- You're right, more education doesn't mean more intelligent. But educated people -- probably -- tend to be better informed and to value education. Maybe they're also more likely to trust and value institutions, and to score more highly on "social trust" -- a concept that Nate has invoked to explain why polls over the past several years have been skewed toward more educated respondents. .

[@davidgustavsson4000]

@@buckyharris9465 yup, I have no quarrel with "better informed".

[@KevinJL]

We love Clare

[@stephenleblanc4677]

Sexual paraphernalia? How about T-shirts with the slogan "Blew it again!"

[@jpoeng]

Have any of you studied the design of experiments from a technical perspective? I find myself wondering why the corrections you discuss seem to be focused solely on a few gross demographic factors that may have only loose correlations to how people feel and vote. It doesn’t seem like you have anyone there who is into social psychology or actually understanding the voters as people. Without that, you’re always going to miss root causal factors and key interactions. It seems like you’re just shotgunning at first order effects based on demographic factors alone.

[@barrylane4164]

I was disappointed in this discussion. Yes, the tactics were talked about, but not much of the big picture. These folks should be aware of (read) Thomas PIckety's work and also the numerous excellent academic texts which deal with American polarization which is now the prime mover in voting shifts. The works of Ezra Klein, Amy Chua, Thomas Carothers, Liliana Mason to name a few of the better known.

[@mikebaker2436]

12:57 ...kind of a weird tangent. 🤔

[@mikebaker2436]

Intersectionality is key to understanding why arbitrary voting blocks aren't monolithic. If I am a minority who happily works in the oil industry, which candidate tangibly threatens my future the least? Apparently (at least according to early anecdotal evidence coming out of various news outlets) that wasn't an easy call to make this time around. This needs to be better quantified with hard data, but it is clear that there aren't really things like "the typical hispanic voter".

[@larkendelvie]

LOL it's probably really really bad that I know who Piketty was and only have an Associate degree and also watch 538 and am female. From my perspective folks are using the results all wrong - it's not just education, it's not just women, it's not just uninformed -- proximity of opportunity does sound more realistic (thanx Claire). Hopefully the pandemic teaches corporate America that where you are at doesn't matter, work can be done all over this country. But it's not only rural America - it's also equality in the cities -- they are becoming too expensive for average Americans to live in. Honestly both parties are in danger if a group in the middle crafts a future that features a practical, fair long term platform, that focuses on spreading out opportunity across the country. Edited to add - Perry is highlighting a problem with both parties -- They need some new folks in there, the older folks need to retire and mentor the younger and both parties need seek out new ideas. I know that I personally believe that there should be a mandatory Federal Government retirement age of 70. Not that those over 70 aren't valuable but they can volunteer and provide their expertise that way. Many of my family members took a lot of convincing to go out and vote - they are all convinced we're in a rut and it makes no difference what they do - the same folks will always be in charge.

[@jimmytommyjojo]

Latte Larry's!

[@octavia2]

The US population is only a third college-educated?? Good grief.

[@martypoll]

You only just learned that? Good grief!

[@dianahollenbeck9986]

And 70% of Americans never read another book after high school or college.

[@martypoll]

@@dianahollenbeck9986 The Pew Research Center says it is 27% but I suspect that what most of the rest are reading is not encouraging. www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/09/26/who-doesnt-read-books-in-america/

[@shyft09]

had to rewind because I thought I misheard - but the US word "college" might be misleading to Brits at least, we would say university, Americans are one third university educated. Still low compared with OECD average, but maybe what you would expect from a country that is low tax / high cost of education & health care

[@liamfbules2999]

Another important thing about Klain, he's a Hoosier

[@shabbydabbydo314]

Fear of loss of unearned privilege?

[@mai_komagata]

no fivey plushies though...

[@BrandonPooley]

Have i been pronouncing extremist wrong?

[@PhiltheMoko]

Nope, I've never heard anyone pronounce it how Nate did.

[@andrewmastin4312]

No, it’s pronounced ek-stree-mist, not ek-strem-ist.

[@buckyharris9465]

@@PhiltheMoko -- I have. I thought it was a Britishism, but I just Googled, and apparently not. Then there's "cretin," which tends to be cree-tin in the US and crett-in in the UK.

[@shuttlemanjack]

Slightly off topic maybe... Am I the only one getting a lot more annoying ads pop up on fivethirtyeight?

[@silentnomore3775]

5 min in and Claire gives us hamburgers and heroin. Yay! Lovin' it.

[@iii-ei5cv]

Same people that always divide

[@heavenlyblue]

Great Job Nate for your help to get Biden elected!!!!!

[@buckyharris9465]

You used to claim that Trump was gonna win. Did he lose after all?

[@michaelg2607]

whoa, nate pronounces "extremist" really bizarrely 7:30

[@MrHmjg]

what about redrawing congressional districts...makes america look 3rd world!

[@SilverLimit]

I think there is far too much analysis and second-guessing on class/education here and not enough focus on the fact that Trump was an incumbent celebrity. Remove those elements from future elections and I’m sure the landscape would be very different.

[@csudab]

Piketty 💙

[@travcollier]

"regression to the mean"

[@hbrown6563]

Campers, Am I wrong here or does the refusal of Perry to allow proper illumination of his face a distraction? A quote from Earl Moore, drummer from 'Clown' the Ike Willis band from the 70's on beach in LA ... "Yuh notice how the further the bloods get down the beach, the more their features fade?" Hey, if Sidney Poitier can accept lighting arrangements, Perry can. It''s hurting the show. h.

[@IanZainea1990]

honestly this probably has more to do with auto-exposure being prejudice toward light skin tones. The camera thinks his face is shadow and doesn't expose properly for it. It exposes for his wall. Notice how Nate/Galen/Clare have super blown out background? It's because the auto-exposure is recognizing their face and exposing for it. I'm not making this up, it's an issue in image recognition in computer programming and back in the 80s there was a big issue with Kodak making film that rendered darker skin tones badly. And it was/is in their marketing materials now how you *can* expose for both light and dark skin tones. In the past, you just couldn't get a good rendering of dark skin tones on kodak film. It wasn't *made* do to that.

[@buckyharris9465]

Perry's lighting has gotten a lot better recently. But his internet connection remains a problem.

[@IanZainea1990]

@@buckyharris9465 nate needs to get our man some fiber!

[@richardsmith3021]

Get Perry a better internet connection!

[@davidwilliams6966]

They're back, they're back!! Just don't ask 538 to predict elections sheeeesh!!!!

[@jpoeng]

OMG you guys are all so deeply steeped in establishment elitism. Please read “The People, No!” by Thomas Frank to understand how elitist your comments about “fear of democracy” are.

[@BlairWaldorf2013]

Why do they *CONSISTENTLY* show all the white contributors faces and then the SECOND the Black Guy starts talking all of a sudden it’s his photo?

[@buckyharris9465]

It's geography, not race. Perry, in Kentucky, probably has the worst internet connection. Nate's used to be bad also (even though I'm pretty sure he lives in NYC), but it's improved over the past month or two.

[@fizgizan]

Impeached one termer, not a king, sorry, not even remotely sorry Don.

[@IanZainea1990]

Ron Klain isn't anti-Left, which is why the Left isn't pissed about it. He isn't a leftist, but he's open to discussion.

[@drwho9437]

Mean reversion isn't just a thing on polls, its a thing over all. I'd bet on normal 4 years and very normal election in 2024.

[@samjan718]

Here early!

[@johanmuller7321]

7n9r 08

[@Ompasikom]

"...you know..." No, we don't know. That's why we're listening to you. Please join Toastmasters. The "...you know..." and "...umm..." fast became annoying.

[@harmonie3671]

Dear people, it does not matter which religious community you belong to or not, how you pray or meditate. :) The main thing is to lead a life of charity. Jesus died on the cross as an atonement for all. Fully spiritualized, He ascended to heaven. Since then our Almighty GodJeus has been spiritually with everyone and eagerly waits for recognition, exclusively in his own heart! See Matthew 7: 7 God is very much alive, He knows every heart, He knows that every person will create their trials on earth, he always holds fast to Jesus, whatever happens !! Our Almighty God is spiritually and spiritually we have to want to find him and that only happens in ourselves in the heart. He loves us very much and longingly patiently waits for every responsible person (all those in need of protection are God's children anyway) to communicate with him mentally and spiritually. Trust in God's presence, repent, repent, also pray for your loved ones ...... go into your heart !!! According to the Bible, we live at the end of the end times. Sodom and Gomorrah in the most violent measure can no longer be overlooked in our world! This time the ark is Jesus himself and if you don't ascend, you will perish.......amen

[@jackgallo5616]

538: your polls were wrong. Atrociously wrong. It is a sad day that Rasmussen Poll now has more credibility than you.

[@reverendbarker650]

Sadly, between one commentator saying "you know " and the other saying 'like' every third or forth word, I found this extremely hard going.... you guys need to brush up on your skills......

[@BERNARDO712]

Does 538 hire any straight men?

[@buckyharris9465]

Yes. There have been several, though no one on the staff seems to publicize their sexual orientation. Micah Cohen is said to be straight.

[@Bobbobbob984]

First