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[@EarthPilgrim2012]

Even so, come, Lord Jesus! Maranatha!

[@jeanwidby8363]

It is hard to imagine anyone, especially Jews, who revere the prophets, not realizing that only Yeshua fits all prophecy of Messiah. There is just not one doubt.

[@restoredtheology3689]

Amen. Romans 11 says that there would only be a remnant of Israel who accept Jesus with most being blinded for the benefit of the gentiles.

[@dralgarza]

I don't understand you people who reject the Hebrew grammar of daniel 9:27. The "he" must go back to the antecedent which is Messiah, the proper noun. The "people" and "prince" are inproper nouns without the Hebrew article. Further more, the western dispensational view is not Jewish and never will be. We at the Judeo-Christian Institute have been waiting for a friendly debate from Ankerberg and nobody will contact us about this. The Jewish bible is not western literature.

[@GordieEggleston]

You apparently assume that the "prince" [Hebrew word is "nagid"] of Daniel 9:26 is the Messiah because you, like most people, assume that "mashiyach nagid" of Daniel 9:25 speaks only of one person and one coming, specifically the Messiah and his coming. I say this because you write "The "people" and "prince" are inproper nouns without the Hebrew article". What you are not taking into account is that the prince [nagid] IS a proper noun on the basis of his having his own coming ("the nagid who is to come") and that coming is NOT the previously mentioned coming of Messiah. Perhaps you think the Daniel 9:26 coming of nagid references the future coming of Messiah, but such an interpretation is disingenuous when you consider that the passage (Daniel 9:26) about that coming of nagid also speaks of the destruction of Jerusalem. The earlier reference (in Daniel 9:25) to nagid's coming is in the context of Jerusalem being rebuilt. Since we see, in Daniel 9:26, that the city is destroyed, the parameter of the prophecy requires that the city would need to be re-rebuilt BEFORE the 70th week could begin (just as surely as a rebuilding of the city had been necessary before the 69th week coming of Messiah, which did NOT usher in the 70th week). At this point, I'm guessing, you will object and say that Daniel 9:26 is speaking of the 70th week. If so, then you are not so much at odds with me as you are with the Jewish interpretation of the prophecy by the Jewish Messiah, Yeshua, AKA Jesus (in Matthew 24:16), since he says of the 70th week: "Then when you see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (the one reading, let him understand)...." The Messiah, who certainly had a "Jewish view" (whether that view happened to be "western dispensational" or not) spoke of that time (the mid-point of the 70th week) as being AFTER the gospel of the kingdom had been preached throughout the world (Matthew 24:15). So there's that.

[@ElCineHefe]

Dispensationalism is the religion of the Antichrist. Don't waste your time.

[@northstorm6248]

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[@belong2christ1]

What I'm getting at from my comment below is in the context of both verses 26 and 27, it doesn't fit what the gentlemen on this video says.. If you look at verse 26 it does sound like what he says.. But if you read it in context with verse 27, it doesn't. Hope someone understands what I mean..

[@belong2christ1]

But what I see after daniel 9:26, this.. And he shall enter into a strong and firm covenant with the many for one week [seven years]. And in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and offering to cease [for the remaining three and one- half years]; and upon the wing or pinnacle of abominations [shall come] one who makes desolate, until the full determined end is poured out on the desolator. So this verse 27 of Daniel sounds like the end times, when the Antichrist is here...

[@GordieEggleston]

Yes. And the "he" of "he shall enter into a strong and firm covenant" refers to the previously mentioned "nagid" (who was mentioned TWICE before, both times in the context of a coming that is preceded by Jerusalem being in ruins). The word nagid is a Hebrew word, and it is a noun... specifically a person. And that person is NOT the Messiah. Please see my post above.

[@GordieEggleston]

For those willing to consider what they have not previously considered: Daniel 9:25 mentions the coming of two different individuals. In the Hebrew they are called Mashiyach and Nagid. Most Bible translations combine these two words as a noun-adjective that speaks of only one individual, Mashiyach the Nagid ("Messiah the Prince" or "Anointed Ruler"). The problem with making them out to be one person is that Daniel 9:26 refers again to both Mashiyach AND Nagid... and when it does so it speaks of them in the context of their being a noun... specifically as two different individuals: "MASHIYACH shall cut not and the people of the NAGID who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary...." BTW... where many see the future crucifixion of Messiah being referenced in Daniel 9:26, it is prudent to bear in mind that the Hebrew says simply "mashiyach karath ayin" (Messiah cuts not). Since it is a 70 weeks prophecy, and only 69 weeks had previously been mentioned, a logical conclusion of what is meant by "Messiah cuts not" is that the Messiah, at his coming, does not cut off the final 70th week (of the 70 weeks that are cut off for the people and the city). That interpretation is reinforced by the very next sentence which tells that the city (whose rebuilding had kicked off the 69 week countdown) is DESTROYED WITHOUT THE 70th WEEK OCCURRING. In other words... the countdown to Messiah is NOT the countdown to the beginning of the 70th week but rather the end of the 69th (which would have been assumed to be when the 70th week would begin). If one is willing to consider the context of Daniel 9:27 as concerns the prophecy itself, it is NOT THE MESSIAH who is at the city when the 70th week begins (nor at the middle of it, nor at the end of it) but RATHER IT IS THE NAGID (The Antichrist) whom we see in the prophecy at that point. In other words, the 69 weeks countdown to the mashiyach (the Messiah) is NOT a countdown to the start of the 70th week. The 69 weeks countdown to the nagid (the Antichrist) IS a countdown to the start of the 70th week. It is the nagid whose coming is referenced (in Daniel 9:25) in regard to a countdown to the rebuilding of the city and then referenced again (in Daniel 9:26) in regard to the city being destroyed, thus requiring another rebuilding (since the 70th week could not occur until the city was re-rebuilt). The 70th week begins at the conclusion of a 69 week countdown to nagid's coming to that re-rebuilt city... a coming prophesied in both Daniel 9:25 AND Daniel 9:26! Note: The city that was destroyed in 70AD is NOT the rebuilt city that stands today. The re-rebuilt city that stands today was rebuilt by Sulieman in the 1530's. "The Lion's Gate" commemorates the word that had gone forth to re-rebuild the city.

[@daniyyel1492]

My understanding tells me that the entire description found in 9:24-27 is about our Lord. Not to disparage the erudite scholarship of Sir Robert Anderson, but the book of Daniel is said to be sealed until the time of the end, so I have my doubts regarding any prophetic insights unlocking the book of Daniel which were put forth close to a 120 years ago. I believe the seventy "sevens" in v24 have "two" meanings, one which is exclusive regarding the period of time involving the Jewish nation..

[@mireliom]

So glad to see many Christians below see that this man is so wrong after he only gets half of this right , as all of Daniels weeks are in fact about Jesus and not a Antichrist . Anyone with a suit and hair like his can’t be trusted :-))).

[@lindajoubert6205]

mireliom Jesus is man made, a fiction, a fable...he is NEVER mentioned in the Tanakh, which christians call the Old Testament.

[@jaytkadv2429]

Jesus is the Christ!

[@alfonsoleyson3962]

The 70 weeks are a period of 490 days because in the first few verses, Daniel understood the 70 years of captivity are a result of failure to celebrate 70 Jubilees from the time of Saul unto their few years in captivity. Actually, they celebrated Jubilee only twice, once, during the birth of solomon and the next Jubilee they celebrated was during the inauguration of their Temple. Every 50 years, they should had celebrated 8 Jubilees and therefore, in there 451 years of history, they missed 70 Jubilees and only twice celebrated it. So, having kings and Temple doesn’t guarantee a right path to Yahweh but only make them sinned against Yahweh. So, the 70 weeks was not about rebuilding their Temple but rather points to the True Temple of Yahweh, his son, Jesus and his ministry. As a lamb of Yahweh, he must be of the first year, meaning, must be only year old as the length of his ministry, from his cleansing of the Temple unto the next year cleansing of the Temple again. It says the the roads shall be rebuilt again. Jesus being cutoff does not refer to his crucifixion but rather, him being chosen as the sacrificial lamb by his countrymen. This was Friday, after his 2nd cleansing of the Temple, five days before his death on April 28, 28 AD, Wednesday. One lunar year is 51 weeks but in 28 AD, an additional monty, Adar 2, was added before the Nisan 1 New Year, so as to wait for the harvest be ready. This makes the year 55 weeks and pushed the Passover to the end of April in 28 AD. The 70 weeks of Daniel did not started with a command of a Gentile king but rather by Yahweh Himself when Jesus was baptized by John on February 13, 27 AD, Thursday. Use 2003 calendar for this year. Add 7 weeks to it and this was the first entry of Jesus in Jerusalem, Thursday. The next day was his first cleansing of the Temple, Friday, for the after sunset Sabbath. Add the 7 weeks baptism to first cleansing to 55 weeks 2nd cleansing makes it 62 weeks where he was cutoff. Add 6 more days makes a total of 440 days. The 3 days and 3 nights from Wednesday afternoon to Saturday afternoon on May 1, 28 AD are not included. We still have 50 days more and this would be future. Add 66 times 11 times 1000 days takes you to January 20, 2016, the 7th year of Obama. Add 66 times 11 takes you to January 15, 2018, the 1st year of Trump. Add 11 times 28 or 11 lunar cycles and it will take you to the start of the covenant with many by the False Messiah. Trump’s days will only be 666 days. From Obama’s re-election on November 6, 2012, his rule was extended for 42 months. He will have to rule for another 40 weeks plus 6 weeks during the days of Tribulation. The last 50 days of the 70 weeks of Daniel will resume on the Days of Noah, the memorial of the flood, on the 17th day of moon wile the sun is at scorpio, on the 4365th year after the flood. It will be Saturday and jesus told the Jews to pray the their flight be not Sabbath day, for it will be on November 24, 2018 and it will be winter on those 40 days of Tribulation.

[@belong2christ1]

So it must be shown why verse 26 of Daniel chapter 9 is talking about the messiah in context, otherwise its open to refutation from our critics. I'm really keen for this verse to affirm our messiah, but is this honest teachings? The only way we can have strong apologetics, is if we can show in context, that a verse like Daniel 9:26 is really speaking about our Lord Jesus.

[@briankaz8786]

Messiah simply means the anointed. In scripture, there are more than one messiah depending on context. YHWH has anointed many in biblical history for His purposes. The anointed to die for the transgressions of the law of God is Yeshua. This was his high purpose. Yeshua told us there would be many false anointed ones in the last days. This video is a great example of people who believe they are doing YHWH's work, but are false prophets. The 70 week prophecy is not about Messiah Yeshua. It is about Principalities and powers. Daniel 7-12 is an answer to Daniels prayer as he wanted to know what would happen to his people and city Jerusalem. Gabriel brings the message regarding the 4 great empires and how they will effect the people. Beasts are empires, Babylon brings desolation, Persia allows the people to return and restore, Greece causes the abomination the will make Israel desolate, and "the people of the prince that shall come and destroy the city and sanctuary" Rome. Using the context of Daniel 7-12, We can simply see that Princes are Demons and Angels. Gabriel is stopped by the Prince of Persia for 21 days, but Michael, ONE OF THE CHIEF PRINCES, helps Gabriel. Gabriel goes off to fight with the prince of Persia then the prince of Greece. These Princes rule the principalities or empires while Michael watches over the people of Judah. And no, Michael is not Jesus, Yeshua is mentioned in chapter 7 as "son of man". Also note, Daniel does not know the name of Rome at the time of writing. He would have stated the prince of Rome destroys the city and sanctuary if he knew while writing of these empires or principalities. 2.5 billion "Christians are lawless and believe anything the false prophets say. That is why this sacred interpretation of Daniel 7 is never seen nor understood. Al Christianity is from Rome and Revelation is revealed for those who have eyes to see. However Revelation 14:23 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith in Yeshua. Rome receives a head wound in 410 AD and the western Roman empire falls. The other head is Constantinople and is where the murdering false religions come from. All lawless. Orthodoxy calls down fire from heaven in Jerusalem even today. Miracles in the sight of men. Catholicism places a mark on the forehead of ROMITI, or Roman men. ROMITI in Hebrew equals 666 and these ROMITI are the principality that makes up Catholicism. The head of the empire was revived, Rome, around 800 AD as the Holy Roman empire took over. Revelation 17 tells us who revived the head capitol city. Beware of this false religious deception, Yeshua told us to come out of her my people. Anyone who loves YHWY by keeping His commandments will see the revelation given by Yeshua. And no, there will be no 7 year tribulation or Antichrist character. The 70 week prophecy interpretation by the churches is false. To wrap this up, Antichrist was defined by John and has been changed by churches to identify a man. Antichrist means, the spirit that denies the anointed one, messiah, did not come in the flesh, or as a man. YHWH did not come in the flesh, the one anointed by YHWH came in the flesh. Those that say "God the father, God the son and God the Holy Spirit" are antichrist. It is as if Antichrist is the churches and they are always hiding themselves with false prophecy and false teachings.

[@kaybass520]

Christ's appearance in Matthew 24: 29, 30: signs in Sun moon and stars and a tribulation. Sorry; the heavenly bodies are all here now and there is not another seven years left in it.

[@edwinpurovitz]

he Hebrew in v25 is "dvar" which means "word" not commandment. This is the same as in v23 and v2 where it is a reference to the divine word of God to Jeremiah. There are multiple problems for those who insist this chapter is a messianic prophecy of Jesus because of gross mistranslations. Furthermore, I would ask anyone who insists these verses are about Jesus the following: Gavriel states in v23 that he is going to give Daniel understanding (regarding the timelines). So if it is the first year of Darius which most historians place around 539-537 BCE, and the angel is going to tell Daniel when the timeline starts, how is this of any help to Daniel to find understanding if, according to Christian apologists, the timeline starts with a "commandment" which is to be issued either in 457 or 444 BCE? (take your pick-Christian apologists cannot agree). The angel does not state the timeline starts with any specific commandment and either of these will not happen for at least 80-90 years! This does not give Daniel any understanding at all. The only way Daniel gains understanding is if the timeline has already begun- with some event in the past (ie in Daniel's own lifetime). Only then can he sort out the problems he was having in contemplating the calculations referred to in v.2 Show less

[@zdaleeuwarden]

That happened when Prince Titus (Roman), destroyed the temple and Jerusalem, the Christians fled, and the jews who werent part of the flock said peace, peace, and a great destruction came unto them, that was the abomination of desolation. en(dot)wikipedia(dot)org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(70)

[@charlesphillips5723]

Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Those are all the stock answers that go back many, many years. I don't expect the prophecy given to Daniel through Gabriel to be reveled to the masses of people. (no pun intended)

[@daniyyel1492]

..the second showing that there are to be 70 "periods" of seven regarding the Messiah and the time alloted until the consumation of all things. I believe that the "sevens" following in v24-27 are of differing lengths, in a nutshell; v24 - 70 sevens(Jubilee years,49) - Mosaic Covenant v25,26 - 69 sevens(Sabbath years,7) decree until the Messiah v27 - 1 seven (the Abrahamic Covenant week) the promise made to Abraham and its fulfillment upon our redemption)

[@digital07071]

Rearrange one verse and see how clear Daniel 9 becomes: Daniel 9:25-27 (KJV) 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

[@GordieEggleston]

Granted rearranging the words of Scripture is not the same as adding to or taking away from the words of Scripture, but... really?

[@GordieEggleston]

Apparently you DO realize that "the prince that shall come" is NOT referring to the Messiah. But by your rearranging the second part of Daniel 9:26 to come after Daniel 9:27 you thereby attribute the "he" of "he shall confirm" to Messiah when, in fact, according to THE ORDER THE VERSES OCCUR IN SCRIPTURE, the "he" must be attributed to the preceding noun/person... that is, to "the prince that shall come" (whom Jesus, in HIS interpretation of Daniel 9:27 -- found in Matthew 24:15 -- attributes to someone coming in the future, NOT to himself!) Just because you want Scripture to agree with your own interpretation does not give you permission to twist verses like you do here to make them agree with you. You are not The Author. And The True Author does not make mistakes that He needs you to correct.

[@kaybass520]

As regards the heavens, to Jehovah the heavens belong. But the earth He has given to the sons of men" Psalms 115: 16 Psalms 37: 11: "But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth, And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace." Psalms 37: 29: "The righteous themselves will possess the earth, And they will reside forever upon it." We hear a great deal from persons who say they are going to heaven; but who speaks for those who will continue to live on the earth in the Paradise Luke 23: 43 promised by Christ?

[@rolysantos]

Artaxerxes did not give the first command to rebuild! He was one in a serie of 3 kings who gave authority to rebuild. (Ezra 6:14) The FIRST to give the command was of course, GOD, but Cyrus was the first King to give the command "In order to fulfill the word of the Lord spoken by Jeremiah.." (2 Chron 36:22, Ezra 1:1-4). No the chronology does not seem to work out but we know that over time chronology has been corrupted by man (think about what Calendar we use!) God tells us plainly that Jeremiah predicted it and God chose Cyrus (an unbeliever) to fulfill it! That's the end of the discussion!

[@Phoenix-oz7nx]

Isaiah was the one who prophecies about Cyrus Not jeremiah

[@rolysantos]

Rick Huntling rather than argue back and forth, do this. Read the writings of Philip Mauro. He was a lawyer by trade and a brilliant biblical scholar. 'The 70 Weeks of Daniel,' 'The Hope of Israel,' 'The Number of Man,' and more are all available for free online. Take the time to read them and I promise you that if you don't change your mind, (but you probably will) at least you WILL be blessed and have greater understanding. BTW, if you look at Isaiah 44:28 it says ------------------------------------------------------- "who says of Cyrus, He is my shepherd and will accomplish all that I please; HE will say OF JERUSALEM, "Let it be rebuilt" AND of THE TEMPLE, "Let its foundations be laid." ______-BOTH-_______________________

[@mjt532]

Read Isaiah 44:28 and 45:13. It clearly says that Cyrus would give the word to rebuild the city, not just the temple. There is also a quote from Josephus re Cyrus' decree to allow the Jews to return home to rebuild Jerusalem. By the time Nehemiah had come around, it would seem that the city was already mostly rebuilt. It lied 'in ruins' because there were breeches in the walls and gates. If you read the whole book of Nehemiah, all that happens is the walls and the gates are repaired. There is no rebuilding of houses, streets or anything like that. Which makes the word of Artaxerxes to rebuild the city questionable.

[@rolysantos]

mjt532 You are correct! In Nehemiah 1, the damage was new damage, not the damage done by Nebuchadnezzar 100 years prior. Read the writings of Philip Mauro on 'The 70 Weeks of Daniel' and I promise you will learn a lot. I did! I don't consider myself an expert but I find it hard to dispute what Mauro says.

[@rolysantos]

Rick Huntling Have you read Philip Mauro's writings like I suggested? I'm guessing that you follow Dispensational teaching regarding eschatology. It's sad that America is awash in erroneous Dispensational theology and Christians don't take the time required to study the scriptures.

[@eirvingdiaz7185]

Time 4:00 jesus never said that

[@yolandosoquite3507]

..The close of probation will coincide with. when Sunday Law is imposed...The Protestants and the nation of Israel in the past were given 490 years(70 weeks) to determine all righteousness , to depart completely from Catholics-ism from Sunday worship(Peter asked Jesus ,how many times should one forgive his brother..its 70 x 7) The 70 weeks prophecy(490 years) and the 7 years(baptism ,death and resurrection)(7 plagues) are given to the Protestants and the last generation, to become remnants of her seed , of the 7th church and separate completely from the 8th church and 8th beast which is Catholic-ism ...Sunday is the mark of the beast!..666 =18..1 is first day of the week, 8 is the 8th day of the week and both are Sunday.

[@charlesphillips5723]

Solar years, Lunar Years, Prophetic Years. All are a bunch of nonsense. It is just another example of man trying to put something into the equation that is just not there. The Eternal God of the universe told how to count the years in the book of Exodus. If you take into account the extra months that are added occasionally to the God's Calendar, you will come very close to a Gregorian Calendar.

[@BertGraef]

where in Exodus? And Solar years are based on the original Julian solar calendar, replaced by the present Gregorian system. What is a "bunch of nonsense"? You call hundreds of years of research by very learned and intelligent men trying to figure out ,painstakingly and precisely exactly how long a day is , the start of the seasons, trying to determine latitudes, longitudes with crude instruments and timepieces , painstaking astronomical observations in all kinds of weather, at night during frustrating cloudy conditions, a "bunch of nonsense|. You sir, are a CLOWN.

[@rolysantos]

Daniel 9:26, AFTER the sixty-two sevens the Annointed one will be cut off (what does after mean? what number came before the 62? Answer: v25.."there will 7 sevens and 62 sevensl.." 7 + 62 = 69; Therefore, v26 refers to AFTER the 69th week! Therefore, when was the "annointed one cutoff?" Answer: AFTER the 69th week or DURING the 70th week; No future 70th week yet to come!

[@rolysantos]

Tony Eaton I'm sorry but that makes no sense! Jesus was indeed 'cutoff' in the 70th week. Before you respond read this (below). Understand, I am not a full preterist or even a partial one, but Philip Mauro was a scholar among scholars. www.preteristarchive.com/Books/1921_mauro_seventy-weeks.html

[@rolysantos]

Tony Eaton Replacement Theology? Answer me this, if you have a baby and 17 years later a friend asks you "Where's your baby? Did you replace him with that 17 year old?" What would be your answer? In the same way, God did not "Replace" Israel with anyone. At ANY given time in the OT or NT the ONLY people who were "God's people" were those who were of faith! There's too much to go into here but Paul, The Apostle, makes it clear that 'Flesh counts for nothing' NOT a little bit, not some, NOTHING! It is NOT the children of the flesh that inherit the blessings but the children 'of the promise.' ONLY those who are of the faith of Abraham are "God's Children," Jew AND Gentile! Read Ephesians 2, read Galatians 3. The Apostles and Prophets are the FOUNDATION of the Church with Jesus Christ being the Chief cornerstone. The bible uses several analogies for the Church; a building, a tree, a bride. If the Apostles and Prophets and Jesus are the foundation of the house of "The commonwealth of Israel" (Eph 2) then what 'Spiritual House' are the gentile 'living stones' being built into? (1 Peter 2:5). If Israel was the tree that God lopped off the branches from, then what tree were/are the gentiles grafted into? The answer in both questions is ISRAEL! There are 2 Israels (After the Flesh/and After The Spirit) This is why Paul says in Romans 11 "NOT ALL who are descended from Israel ARE Israel" OR, Just because they are Fleshly Israel does not mean that they are have the faith of Abraham, or "The Israel of God." (Gal 6) Believers in Christ are God's Israel, always have been, always will be! If you think not, then consider what Jesus told the Pharisees who were 'Hebrews among Hebrews' and Physical Seed of Abraham. He called them "Children of Hell" and even told them Abraham was not their Father! What did Paul call his PHYSICAL heritage and pedigree? He called it DUNG! " For we who worship by the Spirit of God are the ones who are truly circumcised. We rely on what Christ Jesus has done for us. We put no confidence in human effort," Philippians 3:3

[@rolysantos]

Tony Eaton You're missing the point Tony. Read Paul's words until it sinks in. "I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. "...........God did not reject HIS people WHOM HE FOREKNEW. Look back at Romans 8 and he tells you what 'Foreknow' means. Only those who are of faith, Jew and Gentile. ...........You and others want to look at the Physical Earthly nation called Israel and say "Look, those are God's people." But the Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 16:22 "If anyone does not love the Lord, let that person be cursed!" Was the current earthly/physical nation of Israel formed because of a love for Jesus Christ? Do they love him now? IN 1 Peter 2:9, Peter, speaking to the Church, those of faith in Christ, Jew and Gentile said "But you are a CHOSEN PEOPLE, , a royal priesthood, a HOLY NATION, GOD'S SPECIAL POSSESION that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light." Notice that Peter is using the SAME words used in Deuteronomy 7 and applying it to the Church, why? Because ONLY those of faith are "God's chosen people!" .............................What you call 'Replacement Theology' is a misnomer and a misunderstanding of the doctrine. ...................God said that he would "leave a stump" of the tree in the land (Isaiah 6:13) THEN he grafted Gentile branches on to the stump (Romans 9) So did God "Replace" the Israel tree?" NO! It's still the Israel Tree, but now there's Gentile branches on it and it's called "The Church!" "to him be glory in THE CHURCH and in Christ Jesus throughout ALL generations, FOR EVER and ever! Amen." Ephesians 3:21

[@rolysantos]

Tony Eaton I don't pretend to be a Prophecy expert but I'm able to read and use logic (not saying you can't). So, when I see Daniel write "there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens." I know that that is 7 + 62 = 69. Then he writes, "After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing." What comes "After" 69? In my way of counting, the answer is 70. Yes, during the 70th week Messiah was 'Cut Off' and accomplished ALL of the things the Angel told Daniel he would accomplish. Jesus told the Pharisees to"Fill up the measure of sin of their fathers" in Mathew 23. They had already killed prophets sent by God and now they were going to kill the HIS SON (read Mat 21 for the parable where Jesus describes this). Has Jesus' sacrifice taken away the power of sin? (see 1 Cor 15:56-57) Has Jesus made atonement? Has Jesus given us everlasting righteousness that comes when we are saved and given eternal life? Were the things prophesied about Messiah accomplished (Luke 24:25-27). Whether "The Most Holy" is referring to Jesus or God's Tabernacle in Heaven, BOTH were anointed The verse can mean "Most Holy One" which is Jesus: (Acts 10:38, Hebrews 1:9) Or it can mean "Most Holy Place" which is God's tabernacle. WHO or WHAT is God's Tabernacle? 2 Corinthians 5: "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens." It's us, WE are God's building (1 Corinthians 3:9) We are God's "Holy Temple" (1 Peter 2:5) If you want to read what I believe is scholarly work on the matter, please read Philip Mauro's "The Seventy Weeks and the Great Tribulation." Don't let the name of the website dissuade you. www.preteristarchive.com/Books/1921_mauro_seventy-weeks.html

[@rolysantos]

Rick Huntling What Calendar are you using to do your calculations? How do you know you are using the calendar used by Daniel? So, did Jesus accomplish the things listed by the Angel in Daniel 9 or not? I don't remember if I have asked you but have you read Philip Mauro's writings for a different perspective? I understand that our Lord is precise but I also understand that men are able to confuse God's word and settle on a 'timeline' that suits their view as Dispensationalism has done in my opinion. If God meant for Messiah to be cut off in the middle of the 'week' are you saying he wasn't cut off in the middle of the week? 3 1/2 years into his ministry?

[@gkelly9448]

News alert for Christians, the Messiah already came his name is Jesus Christ, stop waiting for prophecy that will never be fulfilled. All the prophets ended at John.

[@TheThrone4ever]

Well the messiah and prince are the direct object in the passage. Messiah and Prince can both be the same isn't Jesus considered a Prince until his millennial kingdom is set up on earth? God didn't crown Jesus yet and give him dominion over Israel so Jesus is a prince (Messiah, Prince) The war and desolation a decreed refers to the sword Jesus brought to divide.