What Does This Mean For Nijisanji?

[@sitarsenshi8512]

They should treat their en branch like it’s actually its own branch with its own culture. Meaning en managers, en merchandising, and en contractual norms.

[@aPopcap]

the merch seems limited, and when they do, sometimes its very simple or.. very mediocre quality, doesn't help that they were found out on how much split nijiEn gets compared to other orgs, it also seems like where Holo and other groups have the talent taking part in design or ideas of their merch, NijiEN seems like it is only certain things even get made, acryllic stands and basic tshirts, rather than the talent potentially coming up with something that appeals to them, or if they tailored a merch to something their fans would love

[@AmyXSpeed]

Lmao it will never happen look what they do to ID and KR they don't even wanna try.riku buy another yacht

[@BeforeON3]

Accelerate !!! 😂😂

[@ShrimpGaslight]

Or better They should scrap EN altogether because they are nothing but a cesspool of toxicity. See Hex Haywire for example, he's no different from Onision

[@Paako414]

@@ShrimpGaslight u say this like not every en branch has its own toxicity 🙄. Be fo real

[@SleepyRue]

welp i feel bad for niji talents, there is a storm coming I can feel it so everyone get ready for it there's gonna be so much stuff coming out I can feel it.

[@GoldRichness]

On top of the fact that they’re desperately adding new talents in shows that they think everyone is disposable. In other words, they think of talents as tools.

[@SleepyRue]

@@GoldRichness I agree the storm brewing and I have a bad feeling about it too it's not even a good feeling storm but a bad feeling.

[@ardantop132na6]

We'll hope that the talents have a contingency plan in an event that Niji screws over by having a connection to other agency or preparing resource to go indie.

[@GoldRichness]

@@ardantop132na6 I mean that’s assuming another agency can swoop in to adopt them , but that’s not plausible

[@JACQUEZ23]

​@@GoldRichnesseverybody tools on this world everybody get used when u think about it

[@wildfang2384]

We are not losing interest in the EN talents we are losing interest in Nijisanji as a company.

[@ausgod538]

nijisanji isnt a company, its their main branch in japan

[@Laevant]

​@@ausgod538Does it really matter what he calls it? Company, branch, trash bin, whatever.😂

[@_lynxninja_4783]

​@@ausgod538nobody gives a sht

[@maradyne_]

Honestly, yea. I occasionally watch like 3 people from Niji, but... After finding out how the company treats their people (revenue cuts and the deeper story behind the graduations), I just don't pay attention to anyone I'm not already interested in. Feels like Niji(en) is a ticking time bomb, and getting interested will only lead to disappointment when it blows. Even if it holds together, supporting the company no longer feels good Ihope the people stuck there can join a better company in the future, though, or find success doing their own thing.

[@druegnor1703]

Now, only Selen for me, I even watched more HoloID and Indie JP Vtuber..probably they are more to my taste

[@vectory674]

Honestly the hype died with a lot of decisions Anycolor take. And combine that with the fact that a lot of talent are shackled by the company and it's not a good look at all

[@GoldRichness]

On top of the fact that Yugo’s graduation was the start of the descent. His graduation marked the tipping point

[@vectory674]

@@GoldRichness arguably I'd say Zaion's termination was the nail in the coffin to show how out of touch Anycolor are with their announcements

[@GoldRichness]

@@vectory674 As I have said previously, Zaion was the true winner. She exposed the truth to the world

[@damianellnoir9318]

Well what do you expect? They promoted Luxiem boys over girls like for about 20 months & now their Japanese fanbase is losing interest in EN branch as a whole. Not to mention the incompetent management for obvious reasons.

[@bossnonlinonliyoyo]

@@GoldRichness I mean there are so much, SO MUCH controversies in Niji EN that Yugo's graduation seems like a drop of water in the ocean

[@vencelfoldi8236]

Being a fan of multiple Niji talents just feels like being stuck between a rock and a hard place. I really do want to support the streamers, they're great and highly talented people, but it just leaves a sour taste in my mouth, knowing that every minute I spend watching, or the few superchats/memberships I end up paying for, don't only support an amazing talent but also sligthly contribute to the sustainability of the predatory black corporation behind them.

[@ausgod538]

you can just say nijien because thats what you mean.

[@bubries]

i think they get more if you support them through streamlabs.

[@manusiabumi7673]

​@@ausgod538so you're confirming that niji are not treating their overseas talents well

[@GoldRichness]

@@ausgod538 says the machine

[@ausgod538]

​@@GoldRichnesssays the guy who never has any argument and only offends

[@sakiamira]

This is because its obvious that Niji prefers to invest in their JP talents over their overseas talents. Not to mention that theres a lot of lost Niji EN talents who left either by being fired or leaving the company.

[@user-bi8ko7kc6h]

It’s sad but understandable because if you’re in Japan you can randomly ask someone on the street and they know about vtubers even if they don’t watch them. But in the west, majority of people know nothing about vtubers, some believe they are AI. That’s why JP livers got huge amount of business sponsors while EN got little to none. Therefore AC is willing to spend more in JP.

[@Ty-zi7nx]

"a lot of lost Niji EN talents who left" 4 people, 2 who left gracefully, 1 was fired for being unprofessional, and the last one, well uh yeah.

[@GoldRichness]

@@Ty-zi7nx cope, seethe and mald, sheep

[@GoldRichness]

@zrevival3818 you can't be serious siding with a white knight

[@ausgod538]

@@holographicwing Completely false. Most JP events are hosted and paid by the own talents as well, only 3 JP tournaments are by the company: koshien, mario kart, NJU, outside of that just programs in the official channel like nijiquiz and others. Personal projects are all done in the same way as in EN. The rest are things that can only be done in japan like concerts and the like, which have been done before EN ever existed. Also poor kr and id? Hana just got focus on, nari got it too and shes going to be in 3D lol

[@dipperdawn]

Shipping is like, $40 dollars for a $3 key chain. OBVIOUSLY WE ARENT PAYING. We make our own merch. It's almost like...they didn't think anything through and they are bad at international business.

[@ryanbolt1841]

even at conventions you can get something similar for 3 to 20 dollars

[@NEETvDetective]

Shiping prices more then the merch itself.

[@lexigarcia5466]

this! Once the shipping is more than the actual product itself, it becomes a major turn off for me!

[@Sh12pen]

I think Japanese merch shipping costs are quite high in general

[@oj74829]

shipping something from japan is usually pretty expensive in general. i understand what your saying, but thats not just a nijisanji thing.

[@LMP19870]

Although I'm not a Niji Fan, I wish all talents the best. They deserve happiness, just like everyone else.

[@friendlyhobo6483]

Commerce for Niji EN is also struggling because fans know that the talent gets almost nothing for their merchandise. Fans want to support their Oshi, not the company.

[@ausgod538]

No it's not, they already had a downsizing in the quarter before, now it's just stagnation

[@youtubereplier1]

I honestly feel so bad for the talents

[@akira8393]

i dont

[@youtubereplier1]

@@akira8393 And why?

[@akira8393]

@@youtubereplier1 because knowing all of this and choosing to stay is one thing but the people who already know and still joins nijisanji, i have no sympathy left. you are asking to be kicked in the balls

[@youtubereplier1]

@@akira8393 Bro I meant talents, not the company, literally the talents are the reason the company still has some revenue left

[@akira8393]

@@youtubereplier1 i already said why. even without the talents, niji still have other places where they can churn new talents

[@GoldRichness]

It’s a matter of time before Nijisanji lands themselves in criminal trouble

[@deathwing1901]

Lol how? So far they haven't broken any laws in Japan. Yall need to stop thinking everything revolves around us, each country have their own laws and so far no criminal laws haven't been broken.

[@GoldRichness]

@@deathwing1901 the fact that you think so demonstrates your ignorance. Gundou’s incident, Selen’s art contest, Zaion’s exaggerated offenses. Look, if you can’t see the truth, you’re just as blasphemous

[@pyratheaegissotherhalfther9277]

Nijisanji has some of the best talents ngl but they are managing by very incompetent managers including a unlikeable CEO. Nijisanji members really deserve way better.

[@imutorln2470]

​@pyratheaegissotherhalfther9277 at this point, a lot of the talents from niji en and can go indi or to a much better company. Idrk what keeps some of them with niji.

[@GoldRichness]

@@imutorln2470 all I can guess is that copium they call hope

[@LuckyFoxLin]

Maybe it would help if the EN side hasn’t constantly talked about how they don’t get paid thus people are more willing to donate to them directly as much as they can or how they keep showing that NijisanjiEN drops the ball constantly. We love our streamers, not the company. Also, tend to find that the merch in general for EN tends to be… eh. Don’t know how JP side is, but a lot of the EN merch is so not worth the price + import fees.

[@ShamaD274]

I paid double the price of the merch for the shipping+customs alone :(

[@Solus749]

same on jp side, there have been smoke signals from the big jp ones for years

[@DeatGaming]

Thats a Japan problem, Hololive has a similar thing.

[@carylemaemackenzie3674]

Niji EN is affected with all this talk about. Isnt the merch being affected because they are saying that merch dont support the livers too much.

[@Bestname_Ever]

​@@DeatGaming bruh you really gonna compare "the shirts" vs the new debut merch? i just recently goes into vtubers and i still know what kind of effort nijosans gave their talents. i really want to support the based nijisan talents but the company IS the reason i dont want to invest too much in a bad company.

[@Raph___A]

In my opinion, Xsoleil was the beginning of the end of an era, a time where everyone in EN was still in EN. Sure, Mysta had already been considering quitting at the time, and Yugo was pretty much already on his way out, but at least we could still say "everyone is here". Then Xsoleil debuted and 1. We lost Yugo like less than a week after their debut 2. Zaion was unfairly thrown away after a month of being a member 3. We learned that the company keeps everyone's golden play buttons And last but DEFINITELY not least, 4. We learned about the 2% payment Plus, they didn't give enough of a fuck about Krisis to give them their own debut song. That's how you know they just don't care about quality anymore, if they ever have.

[@senny-]

Oh god, I never even realized the newest gen didn't get their own song. I feel so bad for them.

[@shiro-chan9378]

​@@GoldRichnessit says a week after Xsoleil debut

[@GoldRichness]

@@shiro-chan9378 ah right

[@jasonreynoso2103]

Actually, like the other two NijiHeroes groups that debuted this year, they have their own voice drama and I was expecting Krisis to have their own voice drama instead of debut song tbh.

[@tsugumorihoney2288]

Actually i'm happy that niji dropped Zaion and she can go her own way, which i like more than niji could offer, i actually almost stopped to watch niji after Nina left it, Nina bring me to niji and when she left i left with her

[@RamothElggur]

If the Quality would be high, people probably can forgive the high shipping costs more. The low quality stuff is not bad if it is bought locally or at least near your country so that the shipping costs are low, but recent merch screamed "low quality", and on top that it is confirmed that the Talents barely get anything from the sales, alongside other things that got exposed in recent months. All of this makes people not wanting to buy the smallest items from the shops. As you said, they need warehouses locally or at the very least deliver top notch quality.

[@shrimps616-tiktok]

Sadly its because of everything that happens since the cancellation of events from the nijiEN side. Not to mention losing talents like Nina whos the very foundation of EN. I sincerely hope none of the NijiEN graduates this year.

[@BeyondDaX]

Never get too comfortable when it comes to these things. Nijisanji's very structure is unstable and far too focused on short term growth

[@GoldRichness]

Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

[@highwindknight]

@@BeyondDaX I've argued before that Nijisanji adopted the old Subway model. That is to say, expanding rapidly without much scrutiny, causing an oversaturation of the market paired with a lack of quality control. Similarly too, the main branch of Subway provided little to no support for each individual franchisee, in the same way that Nijisanji doesn't provide much financial support to the livers to get them started, while also retaining much power that enforces restrictions to the franchisee that can ruin them.

[@christyclarissemercier6359]

Mysta was a huge loss as well

[@BetterthanButter]

@@christyclarissemercier6359 EXACTLLLY Mysta got me into vtubers so that was terrible

[@TheOneWhoReportsForDuty]

Honestly, I love the vtubers they have but if they (Niji) keep doing stupid stuff then I don't see why I would want to give money.

[@TheRealZura]

The main problem is that Anycolor doesn’t invest in their talents much, at least compared to Cover. Every major event/collab is always initiated by the talents themselves. The upcoming Prism Cup is produced by Selen and Vox. Rosemi did everything for her recent cover. etc… The second issue could be merch. Hololive maybe has better merch because they do go beyond the basic merch but the shipping is just as terrible. Lastly, I think Hololive and maybe even Vshojo just have a stronghold with EN fans. When new Hololive talent receive more attention than some of the Niji veterans it’s obvious of the popularity. Which is a shame because they do have really talented individuals. Anyways if you like latinas give Reimu Endou a follow.

[@ausgod538]

Cover also don't do anything for personal projects so idk what you're talking about lmao covers, originals and tournament are all done by the talents own money, that's the default for personal project in JP agencies

[@raestyles4694]

I’m still pretty uneducated about both niji and vtubing but I’ve also noticed in regards of EN, Lazulight is the only wave that’s done 3D debuts and only the one time? Obsydia crossed 2 years but the “new” things I’ve seen just as a casual viewer are just Selen and Rosemi’s new outfits. I also don’t know Japanese but noticed the JP branch has done 3D events with even younger waves. While I’m aware the JP livers are obv in JP and can access their studio, it just feels as though the investment to EN is so low that it is starting to feel similar as to why the other branches are called “ex-ID” and “ex-KR”, but this is all speculation on my behalf.

[@ausgod538]

@@raestyles4694 You really are new if you think EN is any close to KR/ID when they have much bigger numbers and much more investment than those two branches ever did before they died out. They have merch, sponsorships, voice packs, conventions and much more that those fans wish they got lol

[@blairfujin]

@@raestyles4694 more en members didn't get their 3d debut because those are done in their studio in japan they were meant to get their 3d debuts during the cancelled event but stuff that never got properly disclosed happened and I guess there have been no occasion to get more en members back to japan to do the 3d stuff as for ex-id and ex-kr, that's because officially nijisanji no longer has indonesian and korean branch - both were doing so badly that they got dissolved and streamers from them got moved to the main jp branch

[@LesGold.]

Hey Zura, many good points mentioned especially Reimu Endou! She deserves all the love and support

[@asuraaoki1925]

I hope all the talents find somewhere better to work or just go indie. We'd follow them anywhere and I hope they know that ): they deserve so much better.

[@thatonedrainedplatter5421]

As a fan I completely agree. Really hurts to hear that some of my favorite streamers are treated this way.

[@notinusesoon4975]

+1 that mate, i will spend if they go indie but not with nishit

[@akira8393]

exactly

[@EndoftheBeginning17]

This is the same problem that Hololive had regarding their EN merch a while back. The acrylic keychains and whatnot were not selling. When Myth did their 3D debut I noted a bit of an upgrade by having decent merch suh as a purse for Gura, or bowl cover for Ina, these were all custom designed and were probably pretty expensive, they could be bought individually or as a set - I'm betting sales improved when they went the more collectable route. Some years ago, Hololive had a deal with good smile and I bet you the dolls were flying off the shelves and those are pretty damn expensive

[@jonathangebert3006]

Agreed. Another thing to note is that HoloLive listened to the fans about the overseas shipping costs and they worked to lower it. Shipping has been way lower on my last 2 orders than it was on the first 2 despite the orders being bulkier/heavier.

[@greed-1914]

​@@jonathangebert3006True. I still tend to wait to order several items together, butI haven't seen the shipping prices that made me outright skip merch in a while

[@seki108]

@@jonathangebert3006 Is that recent? Whenever I was going to order the Beegsmol Sana a month or so ago, shipping was almost doubled (or atl least 150%) more than it was last year when I ordered the Sanalite plush. Don't want to imagine what it's like in Europe

[@JoshBarker]

I really wanted to get the new Hololive EN Council plushies but once I seen the shipping costed just as much as the set of them all together I just couldn't bring myself to hit order. It doubled the price making the total over $400 to get them. Even the shipping on the Gura 4 million merch costed me a lot. So can't really say they have fixed the shipping cost to us overseas fans. At least for us in Canada anyway.

[@HudaefCares]

It wasn't a purse. It was a bag. Blue bag. Bag with strap.

[@Tezasaurus]

I can't justify putting any money in Niji's hands knowing how miniscule the talent's cut of everything is.

[@Meonium]

Niji should let the talents make/design their own merch so we can get 'unique' merch like Kanata's t-shirt lmao. Even Hololive manager was at lost at what she designed for her first merch hahaha

[@mushroomsarethebestjsjsjs]

@@Meonium kanata from ensemble stars?

[@lolicunny2]

@@mushroomsarethebestjsjsjs Kanata from Hololive

[@mushroomsarethebestjsjsjs]

@@lolicunny2 ohhh okay, sorry i don’t really watch hololive.

[@hoarauthomas1006]

That's a real problem but by not buying or supporting you give no leverage to the talent to negotiate better retribution because : " well those don't sell so well so, you know, to keep making money and finance projects we can't give an augmentation on those percentage. Do better and will renegotiate." it's completely bullshit yes. But if you had worked once in your life in an entertainment company, of any kind, video game and movie industry too or worse in idol industry you've already heard that crap. In the company going to be ok. If nijiEn get close because people don't support anymore Anycolor don't give a shit closing it they will get immediate cash out of it. No the only victim will be the Talents and their supporters. The only way to counter it is by supporting the talent no matter what. Making them so important in the income that their voice and every protest from the public is a direct menace to the entire business. That's the only way to force a change in those kind of companies but it's harder with a Japanese company because they are not afraid to just hide themselves in Japan closings everything international to stop any bad advertising. So the more the Japanese public enjoying the EN content the more it will give leverage to the talent. Combination of those factors are the only way you can only way to get things the good way. Not supporting the talent because you don't won't to support the company will not do anything to the company only to their employees. Never forget that if you really want to fight an industry. They are prepared against boycott or things like that they have budget and insurance for it like any big companies they don't care

[@dezopenguin9649]

I mean, the reason people are willing to overpay (in terms of merch price and definitely in terms of shipping) is their desire to support the talent. Learning how little the talent gets from merch sales just makes fans want to support them in more effective ways. And if there isn't that extra emotional factor then merch purchases just get determined by quality vs. price, and crap quality for high price = lousy sales.

[@symester5o546]

In my opinion the best way for them to approach the business and merch problems would; 1) Buy a warehouse And 2) Allow for the livers themselves to come up with merch to pander to their own fans. Who better knows their own fanbase than the livers themselves? Fans aren't just attracted to the character model, they genuinely are interested in the opinions and interests of the liver themselves. Cheap acrylic stands and lazily designed apparel definitely won't cut it. I've seen countless Niji livers talk about their favorite artists, music tastes, fashion choices, hobbies, etc. If they allowed the streamer the creative freedom to come up with merch ideas that highlight THEM, I feel like the fans would be more intrigued or inclined to indulge. It could even be included in things like top tier memberships, it would both raise sales and popularity. That's just my opinion though, I won't pretend to know how a major corporation works or operates.

[@symester5o546]

I'm gonna add on a little to this, I don't think the company understands that each liver has a specific demographic. With the select merch they have, it doesn't entirely appeal to that demographic. Someone whose a fan of Luca Kaneshiro for example could be a young adult, potentially in college vs someone like Vox Akuma who has a predominantly older working female audience. Why would small acrylic stands and tiny keychains or beanies appeal to an audience like Vox's? (Not saying it won't, but) there'd probably be a higher chance they would buy other products that appeal more to them. Probably things like makeup bags, tote bags, work or office equipment, or maybe even cookingware (because Vox likes cooking, an interest associated with him). If you compare the quality of their merch to the quality and creativity of merch you could find from fans in places like Redbubble, or Etsy, there's a very obvious difference! Bro....I've been thinking hard about this all day, but did they really miss their opportunity to have the Mysta Rias hat themed bookbag??? I look at the merch on the official store and not gonna lie, its not as bad as everyone is saying. But there's also a very clear japanese cultural theme to alot of them. Which might be different or confusing to new fans who aren't particularly familiar with the idea of merch like the Japanese fans, hair pins, or concept of voice packs. If any of that makes sense.

[@akira8393]

maybe not finana, she's not educated enough to give a damn

[@AidynNyx]

My issue is that Anycolor/Niji weaponizes their fanbase on their graduating talents. They basically threw Yugo under the bus with vague details about their graduation but made it sinister sounding so people were left with harmful speculation than the full picture causing some split between the community on the accusation of "Bad behavior" which that could have been ANYTHING under the sun. Essentially discrediting him on purpose and it felt incredibly malicious. Then you have Zaion who I felt absolutely terrible for, she had her name dragged through the mud on multiple occasions and Anycolor didn't care and even encouraged the onslaught of harassment with lies and overexaggerated explanations. The poor girl was getting DEATH THREATS and being DOXXED. Then the whole payment stuff and merch just solidified my disinterest in the company all together. I think I follow like a couple of my favorite talents but I'm definitely not watching them and its not out of spite but I cannot in good faith give my time or money when I know none of it is going to the talents and it going into Niji/Anycolors when they don't deserve as big as a cut as they get. Then it all just went downhill from there and I stopped watching which sucks but I don't want to give my money or even my views to a corrupt company that's willing to hardly pay their talents for their hard work and I don't think they can bounce back from this. They showed their true colors multiple times now and I do feel horrible for all the EN talents but at this point they would be better off graduating, create their OWN talent agency, and actually get paid properly and with their own dignity in tact instead of Niji just bleeding them dry unnecessarily.

[@natsudragneel-ir7sr]

This is an industry based on goodwill and likability of people, and Anycolor have failed on being likable with how they treat their talent even if the talent they have are likable.

[@RuneSlums]

Please understand, Tazumi NEEDS his 4th mega yacht with that money

[@ausgod538]

@@natsudragneel-ir7sr Is that why they are posting record revenue and profit on the last 10 quarters? thats not how things work in reality dude.

[@ausgod538]

@@RuneSlums Ridiculous assertion made up by idiots. The salary of a CEO isnt that high in Japan for this to be possible and the CEO of a company isnt the one who invest their own money into the company like this, its the company itself that do under middle management, and the like, which it does happen if you look more into things other than a drama channel that only relates drama and negative news.

[@RuneSlums]

@@ausgod538 Tazumi is japans youngest billionaire you troglodyte.

[@ZadkielTheGreat]

I too feel bad for the talents. I'm also not really willing to pay 50$ for shipping each time I'm buying merch.

[@akira8393]

well i mean if you feel sorry then buy the merch, easy

[@MafuMizu-sh8or]

​@@akira8393 i would if the quality is not god awful

[@memegumin]

There is also a cultural difference that we need to take into account here, japan are strong in their oshi culture, as long as they love a character they will make it their personality. The difference with western is that most of us are a trend surver, new waves get more love than old waves unless the character has a spike in popularity like luxiem and ethyria, not only that but we also listen to A LOT of drama, for most a bad news can make them to drop 90% of their trust in the character or company.

[@akira8393]

even so the numbers for them (for the most part) are pretty stagnant

[@Morrigi192]

Even those of us who aren't trend surfers tend to be reluctant to put good money after bad.

[@l.a.m.b.a.o1511]

Sorry I cracked up a little, if you start at like 10:39 there a user consistently defending niji under most of the critical posts and it just makes me giggle.

[@GoldRichness]

That person is clearly the twitter version of the same person KZbin. There’s no other explanation

[@Nematoda4ever]

average niji-stan ~ usually they are on youtube comments, its suprising that they haven't come out.... lol

[@GoldRichness]

@@Nematoda4ever please don't jinx it

[@Nematoda4ever]

@@GoldRichness i think they already come out ~ lol just seeing other comments and yeah, it seems they preparing the keyboard first before defending their Yacht God.

[@GoldRichness]

@@Nematoda4ever where Edit: nvm I saw. Another luk clone.

[@CyclingNeko]

Compared with Hololive, Cover even pointing someone/company to handle with Hololive ID merchandise to be sold in Indonesia. The good thing is, the price is rather normal because we are not charged with base price + international shipping + import fee + taxes + local shipping. We only charged the base price + tax + local shiping. Thus, make the Holoive ID merch is basically affordable because the MSRP is basically the same with Japan price. The only down side is, the company are only focusing on Hololive ID merch only. JP and EN branch are not in the list in our local seller.

[@akira8393]

interesting...

[@calenduar]

Sigh it reminds me of the time when Niji ID fans were spoiled with official merchs and even got the Poco smartphone collab. Aaand now we have... this situation

[@CyclingNeko]

@@calenduarI just receive a news, another three niji id talents are sacked.

[@mdhatemchipli8849]

I do feel bad Niji but they need to shift their direction when it comes to their merch

[@renaosaka6479]

Being a fan of NijiEN since Noctyx debut, i see how Niji treat the EN talents, the cancelled AR live, only Lazulight has 3D model, low quality of merch, many projects/collab disapproved, talents graduation, etc. EN talents bring much money to Niji, but they don't get what they deserve. In a highly competitive vtuber society, talents has to come up with new ideas from time to time to attract viewers, 3D model and collab with others are strongly support the talents to show their ideas. However, it seems Niji can't support EN talents.

[@vii_BLU]

I love the talents! Unfortunately, after my oshi graduated, the low quality of the merch and last year's cancelation of AR live, I've lost interest.

[@akira8393]

your oshi is actually doing you something good. they are saving you from the hell

[@Shadow_Fox71]

Might help if niji didn't play favorites and promotes everyone equally. Most of the time I forget half the talent waves

[@EndellionQT]

Nijisanji aren't the only ones that are suffering from high shipping costs, Cover have that problem too. The only reason I haven't bought any merch from them is it costs more in shipping than the actual product.

[@rexx5031]

Yep. Prices are a huge issue with Hololive merch. Nijisanji seems to have multiple issues compounding to make matters worse. Quality concerns and the rumor that talents gets a poor cut on sales is not good for them.

[@Ms666slayer]

The problem with Cover is that they started to use DHL because in the pandemic EMS didn't ship to multiple countries that included the US, so yeah it made sense, but i still i dunno why Cover doesn't star to use EMS, maybe is bacause of a contract with DHL, i really dunno.

[@darkrow8488]

@@Ms666slayer Probably contract, seller doesn't get any shipping money right (i don't understand this kind of stuff so...)?

[@Sillimant_]

at least the cover merch is usually worth the price

[@Hirome_Satou]

If they want to grow the EN branch, it boggles my mind why they would stop Selen from hosting tournaments.

[@vxicepickxv]

Ironically, the best way to grow the EN branch is to not saturate the ground with too much talent.

[@akira8393]

@@vxicepickxv i mean the formula still work

[@SeinenNinja]

She still can, but only for the EN branch. She can't host international ones.

[@Hirome_Satou]

@@SeinenNinja That doesn't exactly fix the problem of the EN branch having less international support and them saying they want to increase EN's presence internationally. My point still stands, it doesn't make sense that if that was their goal, they would prevent Selen from doing exactly what they wanted.

[@DeatGaming]

We lost interest in NijiEN merch when we learned Nijisanji was paying the talents less than a pittance.

[@anoukpepin5669]

Still, they can't even keep all the money they received during streaming. I don't think anycolor take only 2% of their donations.

[@UnknownGamer40464]

​@@voidboi781If people just wanted a cheap shirt they could have it printed themselves for way cheaper. If they just wanted a plushie, they'd pay a handicrafter to make one for them. Both cases cheaper People buy the official (highly marked up) merch because it is supposed to support the talents. Without that, there's no reason to buy it. Idgaf about anycolor's margins, idgaf if you can rationalize it because "corporations be corporationing". 2% is a travesty when others get within the range of 50%.

[@rakiraccoon]

​@@voidboi781Hololive gets 50% of profits after deducting production costs and taxes, they are even allowed to design their own merchandise, Compare this with Anycolor which monopolizes merchandise and talent which only gets 2%, this sounds like a black company, And to add salt to the wound, Hololive also gets a monthly salary and all the money received by Cover Corp Used to support their talents, such as setting up a state-of-the-art studio worth 20 million dollars

[@cikame]

I love when a company refuses to admit their mistakes.

[@akira8393]

i mean even vtubers refuse to admit theirs.... im not surprised if their company doesnt

[@GoldRichness]

@@akira8393 they will eventually

[@akira8393]

@@GoldRichness if nintendo isnt going to give in, so too does nijisanji.

[@GoldRichness]

@@akira8393 there’s only so long they can keep this up before they break eventually

[@ausgod538]

@@GoldRichness you are completely delusional with reality, amazing.

[@sinimeg]

I feel bad for the talents, but it’s true that I’ve also kind of lost interest for Nijisanji, idk but the talents I watch seem off, like it’s not the same as before. Maybe they’re just burn out, maybe it’s just that the excitement of debuting calmed down or something like that, but it just doesn’t feel the same, they’ve lost something. Despite this, I still like them a lot, they’re still my favs and oshis, I don’t think they’re bad streamers or entertainers or anything, is just that it feels like they don’t like it as much as before, and you can feel it as the audience Edit: And yeah, I’d buy more merch if it had better quality and the shipping wasn’t as expensive as the item itself. I mostly stuck to the voice packs because of it, and also because the livers get more money than if you buy the merch

[@thatonedrainedplatter5421]

Honestly yeah. I thought it was just me and then I started questioning if they’re just leaving the honeymoon phase of it all. I’ve also been noticing less fun clips lately on one of my oshi. Maybe serious talk clips but not many ones where he’s having moments of fun pure chaos that’d make you laugh, flustered, or I dunno.

[@akira8393]

i think it's more of burning out. when it comes to vtubers that feels the same and nothing fresh it gets stagnated and dies out over time. that is what i was like for vshojo. because you watch the same plain thing you felt like something was missing but it was never there to begin with. It's nice to know you still like them but i hope it doesnt pushes to the point of force watching because then it gets mentally draining. they arent bad streamers but not really much entertaining either. i cant even blame them when nijisanji itself is going against them.

[@akira8393]

@@thatonedrainedplatter5421you're in that phase right now. just be more moderate to not grow bored over them and youll be fine

[@akira8393]

@@holographicwing that's what i was like with ironmouse. eventually i just middle finger and left for good

[@Raxin5]

I peaced out when mysta graduated. I only watch mika sometimes

[@luiseatoll6368]

People have no issues taking the brunt of shipping costs. It's mainly a matter of worth and how much a fan is willing to go through.

[@akira8393]

exactly

[@thatonedrainedplatter5421]

The livers are what makes this company so it should be common sense to treat them with a heck of a lot more respect tbh. Pretty sure the livers are the reason people can keep up with how many gens Niji keeps putting out instead of wising up and fixing things internally. Their family dynamic is what keeps people coming.

[@akira8393]

i mean you can slap anyone in and it would just be fine.

[@cyan7635]

I agree with the idea of opening warehouses overseas like in the US for example but also I think it would also be a good investment to allow major anime merch selling stores to sell official merch as well. I know kinokuniya already has some but from what I'm aware of (not a US resident but have friends that are), they sell a lot of goods that aren't all accessible to people that don't speak Japanese so branching out to stores like Hot Topic would be a good idea. Another option if signing partnerships with specific companies is not something they want, they could maybe have deals for companies buying large amounts of stock similar to what 100yen stores offer so local anime stores that aren't chain companies can sell them as well

[@jimmyinnit]

NijiEN is the only group that I really really enjoy and the only group where i like to actually keep up with the new members and hop around everyone's streams... it really sucks that their management is absolute ass.

[@Sillimant_]

fascinating to see how hard AC is coping. >it's not that people are losing interest in the company >it's not that people aren't buying the bad merch >it's because JP consumers aren't buying EN merch, actually

[@kurosumomo]

A) They need to create merch that people want B) They need to price and distribute it accordingly, how hard is it to open a depot somewhere in US & Europe so Americans and Europeans don't have to pay tons of shipping costs? C) For the Japanese fans of EN, how about include the EN talents in the events over there in Japan and vice versa, half of the EN talents are pretty fluent in Japanese anyway, just send them over for concerts, games and all the other things, include them in yearly game events, do promotions like you did with WIXOSS TCG, Caffes etc. Include them in those things. D) It's a recession, most of the world is fighting with increased pricing on everything, people aren't as crazy about spending on little nick-nacks like they were before the recent situation. E) Non official merch is usually more appealing and cheaper, which brings us back to point A & B.

[@citizenspaghetti]

D, is likely the major cause. Especially for the US fans, shit is expensive here and it keeps going up the last thing Ima spend money on is a keychain with a 45 dollar shipping fee lmao. Sadly the Canadian EN talents are going to run into problems with overseas collabs now that Canada passed some bullshit laws effectively limiting the streamers to making "more Canadian" content. basically forces them to shill their own country in streams lol

[@akira8393]

a. they do make the merch that people want. i think hololive makes more merch that people arent even expecting but at least it's very well made and they welcomed it. b. for the price would probably have something to do with the manufactures, i know how things are when it comes to printing. and yes it does come pretty hard, it usually takes months ahead. for nijisanji, i assume they take the shortcut ones that are like a little earlier and more efficient. c. i dunno really, that also depends on the talents as well, how often kotoka is involved and vice versa. e. non official merch is more appealing because it is made of passion or solely based on the algorithm of what people mostly like, if people like vox, they can just google it or make their own art. other stuff like local manufactures is a lot easier than places outside materials are pretty cheap if you make them yourself and my friend even makes them for a hobby. the shipping is the expensive ones but usually shopping apps can cover the cost for you.

[@Stealthy_Mouse]

the Americans discovering the shipping cost issues that Australians have always had, so poetic.

[@quangtuantran7181]

Nijisanji was very popular in Japan, and they thought they could replicate the same success on a global scale, but they fked up. This has happened time n time again, open a new branch, said branch gathers attention n success, but then the cracks start to show because they do half assed jobs, the branch seemingly "fail" ofc not because of their management, and then it just falls apart. You d think that they d learned their lesson the first few times, but here we r again. And again, the talents r the ones who will suffer. Or it could just be a money laundering scheme, but I guess thats giving them too much credit. At least everyone is getting paid in exposure amiright.

[@rhezeqfirmanchung1172]

"The japanese company likes to replicate their business tactics to international market" This's the problem

[@RejectHumanityReturn2Monke]

Septembers almost over yet were still getting more Niji drama 😂😂😅

[@theartistsan2375]

The fact they used to basically be at the top....guess they are flying too close to the sun now

[@GoldRichness]

More like flying closer to the supernova or black hole.

[@ausgod538]

? Nijisanji still is at the top. NIjiEN never has been even close to holoen

[@akira8393]

i mean even disney falls on their knees

[@vkarvanzer4243]

10:52 i was actually waiting to read the comment Luke gonna drop on this one too Lmao

[@tako_ro]

So instead of capitalising and helping out their existing talents, they decide to debut MORE talents to gather more fans. Jesus christ we can't even keep up with the talents what the fuck. Niji really just in it for cashing out talents and fans, can't even feel an ounce of care.

[@BeyondDaX]

Apparently they figure if it worked with JP, it would work on EN I GUESS. heh

[@FuMiO02110]

​@@BeyondDaXuhh it kinda didn't work for JP too, like if you ask whos nijisanji they still gonna answer Kuzuha,Kanae,Inui,Kenmochi, compared it to Hololiven where ReGloss even with all the scuff and question mark...Hajime and Raden are kinda the hot stuff now

[@ausgod538]

​@@FuMiO02110yes it did work for Jp. It's their biggest and most successful branch and larger than all hololive branches together in revenue

[@GoldRichness]

@@ausgod538 bigger doesn’t mean better

[@ausgod538]

​@@GoldRichnessirrelevant as the matter here is about success

[@anon2447]

I used to watch a lot of NijiEN back in early 2022 specially the minecraft streams because seeing the server grow was fun to me and I had some background noise and suddne laughs because I was still working form home thanks to the remnants of the pandemic, kinda lsot track of them when I got returned to the office and couldn't find other remote jobs, now with 60-90 minutes commutation times between my house and the workplace I dont feel like just sitting and watching a stream instead of just playing the games myself, But my situation has nothing to do with the talents, they are great people and very entertaining

[@closed429]

I already had feelings that something isn't right. Mysta and Nina leaving in 1 month just "because of bullying" feels like BS. They probably felt that something bad is going on in NijiEN. And we'll see it. Later. I'm just hoping that before the end they will form some final team "finem mundi" of newcomers to make the ending of their story, not just leaving us with unanswered questions and blank endless "will they continue?". But that will be most naughtiest scenario. And i hope it will be not.

[@akira8393]

honestly that would be the most interesting thing nijisanjien has done so far

[@Koriography2929]

i’ve ordered from both holo and niji and the shipping from niji is insane! it was $19 to ship vesper’s bday teapot but was $40 to ship a pomu and selen puppet? the math ain’t mathing. recently i’ve just been having a friend get me niji merch from kinokuniya and ship it to me because it’s cheaper. niji isn’t actually trying to get merch to us, much less make it worth our while.

[@akira8393]

it's trying to make you hate them more but you keep buying

[@Morrigi192]

@@akira8393 Their target audience in EN is way too cynical for that to actually work long-term.

[@akira8393]

@@Morrigi192 it is and they dont care

[@Morrigi192]

@@akira8393 Then NijiEN will go out of business sooner rather than later, when they could have forged a media empire. Wasted potential. Simple as. NijiJP will likely follow, albeit much more slowly, as their reputation is slowly worn away by endless scandal.

[@omrmajeed]

Nijisanji EN is my primary source of Vtuber entertainment. Would be devastated to see it shrink or close down. I actually agree with Anycolor management that EN branch should focus on exapnding their American/European and Asian market instead of focusing on East Asian content so much. EN needs to set itself apart from Japanese identity a little bit. The fears of merging EN are misfounded, the article states that Anycolor wants EN to focus on overseas market and expand there instead of Japanese cosumers.

[@zeno2909]

lets go kris got into a khyo video

[@starbeam2021]

I almost feel bad for niji

[@saniharuo]

Almost.

[@its_myo]

dont. feel bad for their livers because they dont do the decisions and are stuck with nijis dumbest decisions.

[@FATDADDYSACK]

Niji?? U mean just the talents, niji is a sellout full of greedy fucjing investors. Less % from merch towards the talents and less support for other branches too.

[@Ty-zi7nx]

no you don't, if you did you wouldn't be posting a dramatubers channel

[@GoldRichness]

@@Ty-zi7nx white knight freak without a human heart detected

[@frimeldarottize]

You can't forget about how the concert was cancelled and they gave a cheap excuse that the talents themselves called out on. Or how some like Selen has to constantly fight to do things like pay artists out of pocket for an art contest while the company wanted said artists to forfeit all rights to work. There's also how she's being barred from holding international tournaments / events now. Things like that really matter to people and their image of a company. I'd like to buy some of their merch, but yeah, as many stated: quality, S&H, prices, and the 1/2% talents get... I really feel bad for the talents, they just want to share their love, joy, passions, etc with others. I wish them nothing but the very best.

[@jeykritov5123]

the concert cancellation excuses weren't actually cheap,it's just people n luxiem members focusing too much on ONE of the excuses that is covid

[@frimeldarottize]

@@jeykritov5123 very true. Using the word cheap was a poor choice. The virus was the only known reason as the others were under various. The virus was the main focus because of that (imo) The event is also postponed (as stated and stressed by several talents), but the company used the word cancelled, which just looks worse. Setting up something this massive takes a lot of time, effort, and resources from everyone; to have ir cancelled only about 10 days after it was announced must have been extremely frustrating to everyone (talents and staff alike) The talents might have known a little more as the various other reasons, but can't speak about it so they point at the one that was made obvious, the virus.

[@AP-xf1bz]

damn i'm all new to vtubers (almost just a week) and this is what i come into. the en talents are so fun to watch, i feel bad for them;;

[@magboboterski]

if Selen, Pomu, Millie and Enna graduates.. i think its time for me to completely forget Niji

[@Zydlik7]

Niji paying their livers pretty much nothing, low quality, shipping costs, along with me living in Europe (add another 2 fees on top) is why I never buy merch. The last 2 points apply to Holo as well.

[@Joeshinhwa123-jw4um]

At least in holo, merch split is better and the quality is pretty good. 😂

[@YourTypicalMental]

This randomly popped into my feed 8 months later (post Q4 results). The foreshadowing in this is bananas.

[@cagethemick5404]

I don't think a 16% drop off is reflective of a lack of interest in EN, I think it's reflective is the insane economy in the US specifically. People can't afford their bills right now

[@EliiixirArts]

Buying goods + shipping for Canada. One niji puppet is $12 cad. With shipping, I would be paying a total of $43.61. The shipping is way more than the item and knowing the talents don’t receive a lot of the money from the merch? Not worth it imo :/

[@chickenleg5359]

The fact twitter ppl and niji haters don’t realize half the reason sales were down 16% was cus the community would rather join a hate mob against them rather than support them

[@jeykritov5123]

have mixed feeling,always have been fan of Nijisanji(jp) since 2019. although i only like some talents of EN,but i still feel really bad knowing how they don't get close the treatment of Niji jp talents.

[@Tizjiz]

8:03 I believe this happened with HololiveJP as well. Myth and Council brought in a HUGE EN audience and naturally they bled into JP talents. Let’s not forget Coco as well!

[@biiyen8458]

I always thought it was just a meme but Anycolor really did choose Black lmao

[@crimson9714]

I just feel bad for Millie. If she only accepted Moona’s offer a long time ago, she should have no worries in funding her projects.

[@ivanpaijolin9128]

But hey we cant get ethyria without millie joining niji. But yes the current state of niji is very awful (i feel bad for how they try to trip selen growth so bad). I still remember millie say that she didnt regret joining niji... I hope she stay strong just like how she overcome her sickness

[@HudaefCares]

Why tf are people saying this? Moona's offer (more like suggestion) was that Millie lie and pretend that she's _Indonesian._ Ofc she'll turn it down, she has real Pinoy Pride, unlike "proud Filipinos" that will gladly ditch their culture on the first chance they get. Millie is quite in touch with her Filipino roots, but she's Canadian. She's still a better fit in NijiEN than HoloID, coz gurl can't speak Indo like at all.

[@hirotakakira]

​@@HudaefCaresI think she probably meant like joining the EN side and not the ID?

[@HudaefCares]

@@hirotakakira There's a clip of Millie's PL talking about this offer from Moona. Millie explicitly told viewers to be hush hush about it so Moona won't get in trouble. I was a SiniGANG so obviously I've seen that clip but it's annoying that people bring that stuff up. _Parang mga batang di mapagsabihan._ I don't remember the clip word for word, but I'm pretty sure she did say that she refused coz she wants to represent the Philippines. Personally I was never interested in the culture over at Nijisanji so I didn't follow her there, but I was still happy for her when she debuted. If only Anycolor fricking shaped up.

[@seasnow6073]

​@@HudaefCaresi meant moona can refer her to join holoen gen2, so she can join more easily just like sana.

[@lmontea]

i dont really watch niji a lot, mostly only ethyria, but i do really hope for the best for the en talents.

[@DrakeIgneelson]

I know I have been in this industry for a year, but I NEVER heard of Nijisanji Korea! I know that ID closed shop, but wow!

[@apple_pines]

One of the possible reasons there's a stable sale of EN merch in jp is that fans in jp would collaborate with fans overseas and start a group buy which would greatly reduces the shipping costs.

[@Sillimant_]

that's so absurdly schizophrenic a solution I feel like it has to be true, that's hilarious

[@hau6552]

LMAO THE DOWNFALL IS NEAR😂😂

[@ogueyratogeyrat7448]

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 lfgggg

[@Lemon_Corona]

I haven't paid attention to NIJISANJI since all 3 of my Oshi's graduated. I'm not bored of VTubers I'm just bored of NIJISANJI pumping out talents every other month and not spending time to help their workers and fund them better or pay them better

[@kasupy_barrett85]

Hololive has felt the tsunami first. Now is the time for them.

[@BSGA22]

For me it mostly comes down to the shipping cost, I've seen some stuff I really wanted but i'm not paying double the cost of the item for shipping. It seems so weird they haven't found a distributor in here North America at the very least.

[@randomguy9584]

Man it does suck as a NijiFan, since they just have the best lineup of talents IMO. It just feels like watching a group of friends do dumb shit on stream than them being a company, it is just amazing. Anycolor/Niji do have to realize that many of their merch are just ASS, I only found some merch that I do like but the fee!? Nah... I hope Niji would actually support NijiEN, because they have to realize that their talents, are actually unique. Wish them luck.

[@ausgod538]

You aren't a nijifan, you are a nijien fan lol

[@randomguy9584]

@@ausgod538hmmm...yeah I guess you are right, kinda hard to say I am "NijiFan" when I mostly just watch EN

[@GoldRichness]

@@randomguy9584 do not believe the white knight. He’s an online mercenary sent by Riku Tazumi to silence us

[@kane3383]

they should also start listening to viewers more ... hire a different branch for the management. Also do pop up shops, have your EN talents or your brand sell their merch at conventions!

[@kusogoi]

if they pushed Luxiem so much last year, than it is a no brainer if in comparison to this year last one was better. Raise the liver share and get them involved in the merch that would help alot...even if you make a 50/50 cut with the talents doing the heavy lifting with commissioning and advertising in their streams you make passively money. This way livers get merch they want/stand behind and Fans get merch which they deserve. The last batches of merch were actually insulting to both fans and livers.

[@akira8393]

that isnt gonna change if the price is more expensive than my own phone

[@T33K3SS3LCH3N]

For comparison, a piece of Hololive merch I enjoyed: -base price around 100€ -additional shipping and tariffs 40€ -quality and design were well worth the base price -40% extra for shipping was acceptable for me, because I really wanted that particular design and feel good because the talent got a decent share That's the kind of experience that make me consider to do it again if a piece catches my attention. But that's obviously not the case with whatever the hell Niji has been putting out recently lmao

[@Granox]

LETS GOOOO

[@Mintn1m]

I'm hoping none of the talents get disbanded... because here we go again with Yugo Asuma situation flashback where everyone eventually found his old account (he deleted pictures of himself in that old account but some saw it already) then he re-debuts...

[@ETG715]

This does not surprise me nijisanji finding themselves in a life a crime. But yesterday FalseEyeD talked about a Vtuber graduation that happened 2 days ago and that was the graduation of a Vtuber name Lola loading

[@akira8393]

oh, i never heard of her?

[@ETG715]

@@akira8393 have you heard of yfu baby before

[@DiaryXinyi]

This year in NIJISANJI EN they lost a lot of popular members like Yugo Nina and Mysta they were counted as the most popular members

[@Casualplayer1306]

i mean shipping cost is a thing but not full picture. first , after leak infor NIji fan see how little money they spent on Merch go to Talent that make them less interest .Also, I think it's much easier if you're a hololive fan and want to buy FIgure at local stores, which makes the purchase more comfortable, I've never seen a NIjisanji figure anywhere where I am currently. In the end maybe it's because they have too much drama and some fans feel discouraged by it.

[@akira8393]

i mean because i dont remember nijisanji has that many figures to begin with. collabing with figures takes longer than acrylic stands and keychains

[@boxofsanders]

Also I mean aside from shipping costs and quality issues, they also don't care to make multiple sizes of things anymore. Like I got one of the lazulight 1st year tshirts because it came in a size I could wear. Even if the new shirts were good I wouldn't buy it since it wouldn't fit me LMAO. Same with those Ethyria flipflops. I think the large was like US men's 9. I'm a short guy with fairly small feet and even I can barely fit into a 9 so ya know. You gotta make merch people are willing to pay for. Also they do ship like those first step acrylics from a warehouse in the US so theoretically could they not up that operation to ship more things from there?

[@missazumane]

i wanted lucas new hoodie and wanted to purchase it oversized but it being “one size” is so wild

[@Luna_Sloth]

So shipping for me is £20 from Japan to England, so I don't buy any merch unless its anniversary or big event merch, bcs £20 is not the worst, but its certainly not good, especially if you only want to buy an acrylic standee. Also, the merch recently is not really good. Ofcourse, there are those terrible t-shirts, but I also felt that ILUNA'S 1st anniversary merch was lacking compared to others. They've also been adding more jp liver niji puppets recently and focusing a bit more on that, which I'll be honest I don't watch JP branch, so I don't care for the merch. And then there's the percentage to the livers. Overall, there's alot of issues going on with the merch store, it's not just one thing it's a multiple of things.

[@Luna_Sloth]

Also, I'm annoyed with the fact that there is no ID niji Livers merch in the EN store

[@TheBasedDonHoly]

Kyo grew some knees and shins finally

[@duduvec5971]

Isn't that just a managing problem? If it favours to be japanese when supporting nijisanji EN (in relation to merch and events) then it makes sense that the sales drop. Japanese fans will cater towards japanese entertainers eventually, it's just normal.

[@martinbudinsky8912]

Ah yes... "Money money money is always funny in a rich mans world."

[@ryanbolt1841]

"nijisanji has two groups" WOOOOW not even considering KR or ID as part of nijisanji

[@previous_slide]

In niji's eyes, they're both a part of the main branch now.

[@blairfujin]

since the merger there are no official niji kr or id branches and the streamers from those branches are under the main nijisanji branch, that's why those streamers are often referred to as ex-kr or ex-id

[@ryanbolt1841]

@@blairfujin well that's even worse

[@blairfujin]

@@ryanbolt1841 well, kr apparently had some god awful management and from what I heard ex-kr streamers have adapted pretty well to being part of the main branch and are actually doing better than before as for id, that just what happens when you don't make enough money - that's just capitalism

[@ryanbolt1841]

@blairfujin well even though it was good for KR, ID suffered badly because of it.

[@rakiraccoon]

Too many talents debut almost at the same time, making it difficult for them to build a solid foundation, especially since so many talents debut in a year Making their fandom experience bored, Just like you like eating burgers, but if you eat burgers every day, 3 times a day, after a while you will get bored, Added to this is the many dramas that occurred at Nijisanji EN, graduation and incompetence in management

[@momo8563]

ppl are losing interest bc the company is bullshitting everyone includiçng their talents

[@akira8393]

anycolor and they chose black

[@JDJeanMichel]

That investor call/newsletter really lays it out. A lot of people would probably buy more merch if the personalities got a larger cut, because they want to support the personalities, not the company. But the company sees merch only from the benefit of the company. This news letter is not convincing me that management has the best interests of its personalities in mind. Sigh.

[@ariswiryanta7038]

_*sip coffee while watching the sinking ship with my reborn NijiID family_ also watching the white knight fighting the mass, I see you AnyColor's ass wipes on every comment lol

[@rpc808]

Nice

[@ausgod538]

Ah yea the sinking ship that just had record revenue and profit with it mainly coming from nijiJP lmao

[@biiyen8458]

​@@ausgod538 yeah a company with record profits that can't even spot their talents a couple grand for a fan contest organized for the talent's growth. If Anycolor can't shell out for their own employees then you're in no way getting a piece of that pie no matter how hard you gargle Tazumi's nuts.

[@ogueyratogeyrat7448]

guess where they from china 😂😂

[@ausgod538]

@@biiyen8458 Livers aren't employees and its the default in japanese agencies to not give money for personal projects, anyone watching japanese agencies know that. VSPO, 774, React and even hololive works like this as well. Ask out there if your favorite holo got any money to pay for their covers, original songs, games and other things. They all pay with their own money, dumbass.

[@Haru.Maguro]

The shipping price is pretty much the killer for me, I have had SO much I want to buy so badly from the shop, put it in my basket and everything, only to have to decide no due to the crazy shipping cost.

[@daisukeniwa402645]

I hope you talked about haachama video she put out

[@Khyo]

In the next video

[@daisukeniwa402645]

​@@Khyothe title and the white background of her video did scared me a little bit

[@GoldRichness]

@@daisukeniwa402645 I guess that’s what happens when we are accustomed to it being something bad but that doesn’t mean we can’t get caught off guard.

[@art_of_Miko101]

I am pretty sure that I am heartbroken and feel bad for the talents ngl. I am just copuim with the Hope that this Anycolor co. need to fix the quality good merchs and such.

[@missazumane]

at this point,this sounds bad but i’m waiting for my faves to graduate so i can support them better when their indie. at least i’ll know they’ll make more and be able to explore their creativity better

[@akira8393]

i cant really say for sure they would numbers well but in terms of freedom, hell yeas

[@missazumane]

@@akira8393 it’s better to have 100% of a little than 2% of a lot

[@akira8393]

@@missazumane well you're not wrong but i dont think someone like finana is that educated enough

[@seasnow6073]

Just hope that ur favs will continue to stream and not just dissapear completely

[@teamagbitang7928]

The fact that a simple nijiEN shirt with a basic, vanilla print in front is as expensive as one of hololive's well designed and premium dakimakura says a lot!

[@thebeeskneesop]

I only support the talents not the company

[@jpachu16]

When they had niji merch available at animate stores in the us, that was the one time I bought a lot of it. And a lot of it was sold out. They should just distribute their stuff to media stores like that to solve their merch issue. I mostly only buy digital merch from their shop cause I don’t wanna pay $40 in shipping for a $20 thing.