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@MarquisDeSang Жыл бұрын
What about the USS Eldridge? Ho yeah, it dissapeared.
@mileswilson1776 Жыл бұрын
Could you do a vid on the new flraa helicopter and it’s status?
@montobo_beerus11 ай бұрын
Weather efects should not be a selling point in this day and age of gaming
@andyelliott3198 Жыл бұрын
The James Bond movie "Tomorrow Never Dies" features an exact replica Sea Shadow Stealth Ship which the villain uses to launch ridiculous drill head torpedoes at Navy ships in the South China Sea.
@GreenBlueWalkthrough Жыл бұрын
Makes you wonder about the darkstar in Top gun maverick don't it?
@soccerguy2433 Жыл бұрын
Exact replica. Oh okay buddy
@Peizxcv Жыл бұрын
The original was sunk as seen in the movie by the Royal Navy
@B0tch0 Жыл бұрын
@@GreenBlueWalkthroughindeed but we already kinda know what those designs would look like. The B2 and B21 are rather similar to earlier designs (including the German design) because it's the best design for a bomber. The potential SR72 and upcoming fighters will follow similar "tends". The prototype from top gun movie matches that kind of evolution but the devil is in the details.
@GreenBlueWalkthrough Жыл бұрын
@@B0tch0 Yep and it could be the aurora or an concept for the NGAD that was aged back... Or it could be the US Gov just messing with us... We won't know till 20 or so years from now if every. Edit: Assuming OfCourse it's not pure fiction which it very much can be.
@Werrf1 Жыл бұрын
The _Zumwalt_ -class failed mostly because it relied on way too many new, untested technologies all at once. Meanwhile other ships, like the Type 45 destroyer of the Royal Navy, have also incorporated stealth lessons from the _Sea Shadow_ quite successfully.
@jacobbrassard2776 Жыл бұрын
It’s cause it had a stupid gun and they didn’t build enough of them to even make the Amo worth buying
@Werrf1 Жыл бұрын
@@jacobbrassard2776 The ships cost $8 billion each. If the only problem was the cocked-up gun, they would've refit them with cheaper guns. They had multiple problems, not just a bad gun.
@jiaweizhang4166 Жыл бұрын
The Zumwalt class is unfortunately built for a purpose that never quite made much sense. She could have been wildly successful if the USN used the same basic design for an AEGIS cruiser to replace the aging Ticonderoga.
@tonamg53 Жыл бұрын
Imagine when they were building the first nuclear powered aircraft carrier and didn’t failed….
@Wannes_ Жыл бұрын
@@jiaweizhang4166 They're removing one of the radars, and will rip out the guns for a lot of VLS cells The original purpose isn't even talked about any longer ... Could have been useful in Yemen now
@erasmus_locke Жыл бұрын
It still allowed us to learn a lot and factor the knowledge gained into the production of future ships. Even if they aren't quite as stealthy.
@termitreter6545 Жыл бұрын
Yeh, almost all modern war ships have features to limit radar reflection, and a lot of that knowledge comes from that experience. Even with aircraft, "stealth" isnt really about being invisible, but just about making it a bit harder to detect you, track you and engage you. Even the F-35 doesnt need to be invisible, but just 20% increased survivability can be a big deal in war. Similarly "non stealthy" planes like Eurofighter or F-15 EX have a bunch of features to limit radar reflection. Then add modern electronic warfare (jamming, decoys, etc) to make it even harder to combat your plane, and everything adds up. The Zumwalt is a great example for when you try to force stealth so much that the trade-off makes a worse or just not affordable weapon system.
@minustheone8011 ай бұрын
Bruh it looks like an autistic almost sunken F-117
@coopereaton526311 ай бұрын
it seems very similar to early stealth planes like have have blue and tactic blue, they never entered service, but used lessons learned to make the b2 and f-117
@nzxt1234 Жыл бұрын
Sweden has had visby class stealth corvettes since the begining of the 2000s,1991 they had the HSwMS Smyge was an experimenta stealtl ship Swedish Navy used to test stealth technology , launched in 1991. was used while planning the Visby-class corvettes.
@k956upg Жыл бұрын
Maybe hunter Biden has taken them all to deliver his coke to the whitehouse…or sold them to China..
@shamanbhattacharyya9285 Жыл бұрын
@@YellowLab-bg3osyeah the Type 212 class, and then Sweden also has the Gotland class (which is also equally stealthy)
@hackmind Жыл бұрын
I think about the same! The Smyge came to mind.
@davidh5903 Жыл бұрын
I've seen both in the Stockholm archipelago in the 90's, one big and one small. They looked like nothing else, and obviously military.
@QalOrt Жыл бұрын
The Visby Class is a beautiful design
@martinkasper197 Жыл бұрын
Pentagon: Where is our stealth ship? Navy: we can't find it anymore...🤣
@MP-vc4nu9 ай бұрын
That is why you don’t allow AIs to be available in public, ChatGPT took over it 😤
@Bellthorian Жыл бұрын
The Sea Shadow was just a technology demonstrator. It was never intended to be a in service ship.
@Scorpio.1989 Жыл бұрын
February 2005, I was on a week long field trip to San Diego, and as I was taking a tour of the USS Nimitz we saw the Sea Shadow go past... really cool...
@phiksit10 ай бұрын
When I was working at National Steel and Shipbuilding in the late 90's I remember seeing it in one of their drydocks.
@sebastien3351 Жыл бұрын
It turns out the RCS of the Sea Shadow was "to low" Its RCS was much lower than the sea scatter caused by the waves. So a radar could not detect Sea Shadow but because the waves reflection was much higher than the Sea Shadow. The Sea Shadow appeared as a slow moving hole in the water in the middle of sea clutter! To much of a good thing.
@markderonde622611 ай бұрын
almost like a shadow
@jonnda11 ай бұрын
@@markderonde6226Yeah like a shadow on the sea.
@PaulTomblin11 ай бұрын
They could have electronically added in some noise.
@katherineberger632911 ай бұрын
Any documentation on that? That sounds like the idea that the Ohio can be tracked by looking for an area of water that's "too quiet" - maybe theoretically possible but even IF you could do it, it's far too dependent on local conditions.
@sebastien335111 ай бұрын
YES, but where I don't remember. This information is many years old.
@WhiteJarrah Жыл бұрын
The inspiration for the stealth ship in _Tomorrow Never Dies._
@fahrenbryant Жыл бұрын
The sea shadow is my favourite ship in the world, shame it was scrapped
@randompanda876 Жыл бұрын
“It belongs in a museum!!!”
@hackmind Жыл бұрын
I still remember the Popular Mechanics article about this ship. The paints were fantastic, launching anti-ship missiles vertically. And a few issues later also a very small article about the swedish Smyge with a picture of the craft.
@aardque Жыл бұрын
So cool to see so many shots of the thing in the San Francisco Bay, I grew up there and in those days it was in the "secret" hangar over by Treasure Island. Later after I moved to the Gorge on the Oregon Washington border, they brought a different one up here for "stealth testing," because the Gorge is so deep we often can't even get Sirius radio. This one was semi submergible and super fast. I managed to see the thing from up on Underwood Mountain, on the highway between White Salmon and Willard. It threw up the biggest rooster tail I'd even seen.
@zeberto1986 Жыл бұрын
The inspiration for the stealth boat from Tomorrow Never Dies
@christiannoble5549 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to comment that. 🎉
@fuckyomamafuckyosisterfuck6136 Жыл бұрын
Wrong, the inspiration for tomorrow never dies, was the stealth ship..
@taitano12 Жыл бұрын
I thought they used the Sea Shadow as the Sea Dolphin II in that movie. Just looked, and I guess not. It's a good look-alike though.
@capnthepeafarmer Жыл бұрын
The Hughes barge was actually used to transfer the submarine capture vehicle into the moon pool of the Hughes Glomar Explorer. It didn't do any sub capture itself. It was merely used as a secretive transfer barge.
@Miamcoline11 ай бұрын
Very cool. I love how its super top secret and the engineer brings his two little boys and takes pictures! 😂
@bernieeod57 Жыл бұрын
The barge was originally built for Clementine, the UAV Claw used to covertly rise the Soviet sub. It is now a floating drydock used by a private shipyard
@1slotmech Жыл бұрын
Bay Ship & Yacht Co, Alameda CA USA. (Right next to the Main Street Ferry terminal. You can see it any day you take the ferry. :) )
@martinbose7163 Жыл бұрын
I worked at Bay Ship during that period. Part of the purchase agreement for the barge was that they had to demolish the Sea Shadow (which was inside of the barge) before they could take delivery, which they did.
@yxmichaelxyyxmichaelxy3074 Жыл бұрын
No Soviet sub has ever been raised by a foreign foe. Who gave you this lie?
@martinbose7163 Жыл бұрын
@@yxmichaelxyyxmichaelxy3074 Technically you are correct. The Hughes mining ship did get the grapple on one, but it broke apart as they tried to raise it, so they only got a small piece of it.
I believe the Swedish Navy got some stealth ships, the Visby-class should be a stealth ship
@tibrokillen111 Жыл бұрын
@@YellowLab-bg3os who doesn't love a curvy boat?
@user-McGiver Жыл бұрын
the French Frigate Belharra too...
@vodl123456 Жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5CcmqmthbyWldksi=xkxPpOG90537UgB7 Norway have the fastest warship in the world 🙂
@TomFynn Жыл бұрын
"So, how stealthy is our new ship?" "I'll tell you when we've found the damn thing."
@galeng73 Жыл бұрын
There was a Navy prototype just out in the open at a dock in Panama City, Florida. (On the not-good side of the inlet, not in Panama City Beach.) Once in a while it'd have someone in a Naval uniform hanging around, but it wasn't under wraps or anything. It was a prototype for their stealth litoral combat ship.
@JohnAnderson-ft8kf Жыл бұрын
It was so cool to see this ship everyday in the Suisun Bay here in California. Just as cool is that it was in a Howard Hugh's drydock boat. Unfortunately I believe both have been sent off to be scrapped.
@donovanchau3483 Жыл бұрын
So they only ever built one? Cause there’s a ship that looks very similar next to the USS Albacore submarine museum that for years was just sitting by itself across the river from the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard.
@alexattfield3885 Жыл бұрын
I could imagine them using this as as a landing ship for night raids
@DZ4295DBW Жыл бұрын
Special Operations Troop transport.
@haroldb1856 Жыл бұрын
Approaching the shore in shallow or restricted waters is a scenario where a stealth ship is better than a sub.
@richardpaquette835211 ай бұрын
Yes - they promoted spending - billions - to convert old SSBN subs to SSGN's as seal insertion - but how close to shore are you going to get with a 520 ft nuclear submarine. Totally laughable.@@haroldb1856
@ninehundreddollarluxuryyac5958 Жыл бұрын
One of the main uses for the navy is intimidation. Openly sending an aircraft carrier task force to someone's back yard tends to make negotiating go smoother. A stealth navy kind of defeats the purpose. The large number of warships travelling together and their overwhelming amount of firepower makes hiding unnecessary.
@nanonano2595 Жыл бұрын
defeats the purpose for america maybe, but a slow, inefficient, but super stealthy submarines has a myriad of practical uses in an actual war. Imagine if they had a small bunch of them just sitting around the bering strait, the black sea, red sea, any other important but relatively small area of sea.
@petermgruhn Жыл бұрын
Another main use for a navy is winning wars on the ocean. Bringing force to bear at times and locations unexpected kinda supports that role.
@razorburn645 Жыл бұрын
You say that yet subs are still a major component of most navies.
@termitreter6545 Жыл бұрын
@@razorburn645 I think submarines are a big part of what made "stealth ships" somewhat obsolete. You dont get much more stealthy than a submarine under water. Modern warships do use a lot of stealth design principles though, to make them just a bit harder to track and combat.
@Vot666 Жыл бұрын
I have been watching your videos for 2 years, I am happy to see how much your channel has grown, I hope you soon reach a million.
@williamprice3929 Жыл бұрын
Geee, wasn't that the ship in "Tomorrow Never Dies?"
@jonnda11 ай бұрын
The zumwalt was also made of aluminum in such a way that they are facing issues with corrosion, and the main weapon they were designed to use was to expensive to fire. It's one thing to have custom ammo for 30 ships, it's entirely another thing to have custom ammo made for two or three ships.
@ebrann Жыл бұрын
I have a friend who did helicopter testing with this ship out of San Diego. It so long ago I don't recall much other than he said his SH-60B flew missions with it for a week or so and then it was hard to find on radar, but the bravo radar was not great to begin with so...
@GuitarGunner Жыл бұрын
I took a San Diego harbor tour back '04 and part of the tour was passing by the Sea Shadow's dock. Not sure how it is nowadays but back then they'd leave the front door open so you could get a good look at it. Super cool to see in person.
@Bucketroo Жыл бұрын
Galoob made all sorts of real and concept Micro Machines toys, including the Sea Shadow, the Aurora hypersonic plane, and the Sanger spaceplane.
@UkraineWarAwareness10 ай бұрын
The problem with the Zumwalt Class Destroyer (most expensive Destroyer in the world) is that the West needs Destroyers as the minimal class to launch Tomahawk Cruise Missiles. Russia on the other hand, can fire their equally devastating Kh-101 Kalibr Cruise Missile from Corvettes, which the Russian's claim to have "Stealth Features". I don't know about those claims, but I know a Corvette is harder to spot than a Destroyer. I think the main issue is Cost for the Zumwalt class, same as why we're not going to be building any more Gerald Ford class aircraft carrier's (also most expensive in the world plus maintenance). Despite our US Military budget being higher than the world combined, a big chunk of that actually goes missing, and into projects that get costlier and delayed (such as the US Hypersonic Dark Eagle Project which again just got delayed).
@mikejamison4520 Жыл бұрын
I believe the part with the nacelles would be more called pontoons
@DaShaneo Жыл бұрын
During construction. Everyone in the HMB-1 referred to them as Nacelles. As my old man used that word so many times after that project and kept his word and never talked about it until his contract was up.
@boy_ka84 Жыл бұрын
Surprisingly, the stealth bomber made it through till to today while the stealth ship doesn't.
@robertw1800 Жыл бұрын
Probably has to do with the fact that Airplanes only need to deal with Radar coming from below the plane. While a ship needs to deal with Sonar, and Radar coming from two different directions. Sounds like it's 3x harder, and a ship is much slower.
@santaboy4818 Жыл бұрын
Plus submarines ARE stealth boats and have been doing a good job at it
@uku4171 Жыл бұрын
@robertw1800 There's also AWACS and other planes with radars.
@SnowmanTF2 Жыл бұрын
@@robertw1800 There is also hydro acoustics, unless the stealth ship is traveling relatively slow for a military surface ship, it's propellers moving can be heard for way outside of radar or active sonar range anyway. The US has had a network off it's coast that could detect/track ships/subs near Europe since the 50s. So unless there is a lot of other traffic in the area, kind of hard to not at least give away the general area operating in.
@Wannes_ Жыл бұрын
The Sea Shadow was an experimental ship Have Blue testbeds aren't flying anymore either ...
@andyhastings595011 ай бұрын
HMB-1 was built to service the Gloma Explorer's claw. This was also built at LMS at the Port of Redwood City. Believe me I was on it at the dock at Treasure Island why Bay Ship and Yacht when the were about finished with the salvage work.
@mobilemarshall11 ай бұрын
You just brought a memory I had forgotten back to the surface, these were so cool to me when I was younger.
@michaelhowell2326 Жыл бұрын
To have come out in 1985, it really does look like brand new tech, at least to the untrained eye. But was it just a proof-of-concept or could do anything besides stealth?
@brettbuck7362 Жыл бұрын
BTW the intro was quite false, it was built for a very reasonable cost, which is what the Skunk Works was noted for.
@MarcosElMalo2 Жыл бұрын
@@brettbuck7362 Worth noting that prototype cost can be much different (upward or downward) of production cost.
@brettbuck7362 Жыл бұрын
@@MarcosElMalo2 Point being, they didn't have "an unlimited budget", it was very modest for a ship of this size, and would have been even less had the Navy not pestered them to death with nit-picking (Kelly's unwritten rule).
@richardpaquette835211 ай бұрын
The Skunk Works had almost nothing to do with the Sea Shadow. It was built by Lockheed Sunnyvale at their Redwood City facility. And no - the Skunk Works is absolutely not know for reasonable cost..@@brettbuck7362
@MajorBorris Жыл бұрын
The big gold circle on top of those Polaroid cameras was sonar? I had no idea.
@fixman889 ай бұрын
Yes, the later SX-70s had them, as well as some other models.
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
The WW2 Germans used an anti sonar coating on their submarines called “Albrecht”. Tested on 1942 it suffered from poor adhesion but this was fixed in 1944. A u-boat called the “black panther” caused the allies problems but it hit a mine. The Germans also used an anti radar coating called schornsteinfehger on their mast heads. Late 1944 tech so too late to make a difference.
@Sherwoody Жыл бұрын
The German submarine U-480 had the stealth coating. I think it was destroyed by a mine.
@deepbludreams Жыл бұрын
Big doubt, Sonar and Radar are two different things and no evidence exists to prove any of the German WW2 Stealth paint or coatings ever worked, when the HO229 was taken apart and studied (often called a stealth bomber by idiots), no evidence of the so called "stealth coating" existed. Sonar works by bouncing sound off the sea floor or whatever is in the water (subs, ships, fish, whatever) unless this WW2 German wonder project made a U-boat somehow have zero mass to allow sound waves to go though it, it did not work, *real* sonar protected stealth ships are stealthy to sonar by having very little of their hull in the water, sonar returns incorrect data. Radar works by bouncing fast as light energy waves off objects and measuring return samples, "stealth" aircraft avoid this by deflection or energy absorption and not allowing a return sample to the radar, this does not work on sonar.
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
@@deepbludreams The German Anti Radar Coatings and Anti Sonar Coatings were extensively investigated after WW2. I will link to the reports but if you google . " The Schornsteinfeger Project C.I.O.S Report XXVI-24 May 1945. " We have many reports and were found to work very. Don't call anyone an idiot because often the bit of an idiot may turn out to be you. The anti Radar Coating was a German Navy Project arising from Doesnitz's 1943 anti radar conference and had nothing to do with the Luftwaffe. Never trust Natgeo, Discovery or the History Channel even if Northrop Grumann is involved. -Schornsteinfeger was a Jaumann absorber used on snorkels with hundreds of subs subs were equipped. It absorbed 96% of radar and reduced detection range to only 15% for 9cm radar in calm seas. Worked also with 3cm radar and was more effective in rough seas due to the reduced signal to noise ratio It had 9 layers of cardboard impregnated with graphite to make it semiconducting. This was impregnated with plastic to make it water proof. The density of the graphite increased exponentially to absorb the radar. For a metal surface Think of a wave hitting a vertical harbor wall and a wave reflecting perfectly. The Jaumann absorber is like a gently slopped beach, the wave does not reflect immediately but is absorbed in pebbles and rocks as it surges up the slope. What little reflects cancels with the incoming wave. -The other absorber was the Wesh Absorber also used on u-boats. -This worked using ferrite (iron oxide) materials with crystal structures tailored to different wavelengths. Wheras the Jaumann absorber absorbed 96% at its optimal wavelength the 80% at 1/3d wavelength 3 wavelengths the Wesh worked at 90% but spread over about 10 times the range. -Wesh was only 2mm to 4mm thick and made of corrugated rubber. It was used on the curved pats of the snorkel and periscope where the jaumann absorber was harder to fit. -The two methods Jaumann absorber and Ferrite could be combined to achieve 99% absorption across a wide band. This was not used in service due to the end of the war. -Proof the Germans had effective radar absorbers.
@williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын
@@deepbludreams - I have posted above on German anti radar coatings used on their submarine snorkels and periscopes. I have given declassified Government sources. -Now I will post on the Albrecht anti sonar coating applied to u-boat hulls. -Albrecht consisted of metal mesh punched out with two or more sizes of holes. The holes were filled with rubber and the mesh covered in thin rubber. -The hole diameter determine a resonant frequency. Absorption of sonar and sound waves was at its p0eak at these resonant frequencies but also worked to either side creating a broad band absorber. -Albrecht seemed to reduce detection range against passive hydrophone sonar by about 15% which implies about 70% absorption of sound (power of 4 law) . It's effects against active sonar were to similar degree. In general a 50% absorption achieved only a 15% reduction in range (power of 4 law) but its usually 2-3 times more due to S/N ratio reduction.
@rex8255 Жыл бұрын
It's worth (IMHO) mentioning that part of the reason for no curved surfaces is that they just didn't have the computing power at the time to calculate a stealthy hull or fuselage with curves. Hence the reason modern stealthy aircraft DO have curves is that this isn't a problem now.
@richardpaquette835211 ай бұрын
That's funny
@joshuasturnfield7549 Жыл бұрын
😂I had a Micro machine or the like of this one. It came with space plane, and a stealth shuttle on the back. There was one of the Strike games series on the SEGA Genesis in the first mission area.
@bandit_no1211 ай бұрын
The “twin underwater nacelles” are called “torpedo hills” Very cool video!
@ClarkThompson_boats11 ай бұрын
On the SWATH ships I’ve been working on lately, we call them Demi-Hulls. The part attaching them to the cross deck is called strut. The interior structural brackets which take the bending moment are called haunches.
@chrisperry7538 Жыл бұрын
It was a classified project that we were not supposed to know about, so we called it the Sea Bat. Sailing SOCAL between 87-93 I had to dodge it too often.
@S0RELOSER Жыл бұрын
You saw it firsthand? What was your reaction to seeing that thing in real time???
@chrisperry753811 ай бұрын
@@S0RELOSER Yes, I saw it, while sailing on Southern California OpAreas. While Navigator of the USS Racine home ported out of Naval Station Long Beach, I preferred to night time steam a racetrack between Santa Catalina and San Nicholas Islands. I thought it was cool. I loved the Swath design and the Navy was testing it for sea keeping and loading abilities. It was a pain, because I wanted everyone to have a quiet night, so I avoided known operating areas & since they kept that one secret, I never knew if she would pop up in the early morning.
@PaulTomblin11 ай бұрын
My brother (who was in the Canadian navy) claims he was on the bridge of his ship (City class DDE) when the Sea Shadow passed within less than a mile of them, but the radar screen was showing it 20+ miles away.
@borisjevic6338 Жыл бұрын
Loved it then and still do. A wonderful ship.
@icarussisyphus Жыл бұрын
I do remember seeing this ship on the gov auction website pretty cheap. I debated on bidding but I did not know anything about diesel engines and it was all the way in California. Did not know how to bring it to Florida and I figured it would cost me an arm and a leg in fuel to sail it.
@ThatChillWeirdGuy Жыл бұрын
Imagine using these stealth ships today as drone carriers. 👽
@geronimo55374 ай бұрын
ultimately what destroyed the concept was none of that. it was simply cost being somewhere around 20x more expensive then projected and some 50x more expensive than a traditional ship. I have no doubt we still have some form of these in operation in some far away from city eyes.
@SioxerNikitaКүн бұрын
There is also the crew problem of not having external decks to hang out on. Massively increases cost of crew, like Submarine Crews.
@erasmus_locke Жыл бұрын
As usual it was the high cost and lack of necessity. In a fully fledged war with a neat peer opponent like China or Russia I expect we'd see a lot of stealth ships suddenly pop into existence.
@aslamnurfikri7640 Жыл бұрын
And these ships would be unmanned
@timeshark8727 Жыл бұрын
Calling Russia "near peer" at this point is just silly, especially in terms of naval power. Actually, in terms of naval power, calling China "near peer" is silly too. China's total fleet has similar combat power to a single US carrier group... the US has 11 carriers.
@mynamejef7963 Жыл бұрын
Russia stinks at war lmaoooo
@NACLGames Жыл бұрын
@@timeshark8727 OK chest-thumper, calm down. Russia's navy has seen better days, but it would be unwise to dismiss China's navy. It doesn't need to be as large or as "powerful" in total, it only has to exert power where it's needed, which currently remains the South China Sea, and in case of a hot war, the Sea of Japan. In terms of technology and applied power within a region, China is comfortably "near-peer", and the USA having to work hard to ensure they stay ahead. Both countries has technologies and advantages the other lacks. That kind of hubris is the kind that led Russia to lose a modern battlecruiser. Fortunately for the USA, it's top military officers aren't as myopic as you are.
@artemplatov1982 Жыл бұрын
@@timeshark8727 then why Ukraine ain't winning
@Johnthedagger Жыл бұрын
Sea Shadow operated out of NASNI while I was stationed at Deep Submergence Unit. It was in and out a lot, but it didn't go out when the weather was sloppy, so it might not have done well in higher sea states. Cool ass ship for sure
@richardpaquette835211 ай бұрын
Never operated out of North Island; was at Naval Station SD and briefly at the sub base.
@Johnthedagger11 ай бұрын
@@richardpaquette8352 Did Subbase Point Loma two tours also. Traffic sucked at both😉
@brothergrimaldus3836 Жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't call it the (US) Sea Shadow
@DaShaneo Жыл бұрын
During construction. Everyone in the HMB-1 referred to them as Nacelles. As my old man used that word so many times after that project and kept his word and never talked about it until his contract was up.
@ronansmith9148 Жыл бұрын
I have heard that a downside of these stealth ships is that they are to stealthy, meaning that while you can't see the ship, your radar also can't see the water the ship is displacing, so it looks like a hole in the ocean.
@keirfarnum6811 Жыл бұрын
You mean it “can” see the water displacement?
@MayaHaddad-u6n Жыл бұрын
@@keirfarnum6811pedant 😜
@ronansmith9148 Жыл бұрын
@@keirfarnum6811 it sees the surface of the water. Stealth ships don't reflect anything, so it sees a hole.
@kimleechristensen2679 Жыл бұрын
I've read that too. An aircraft with surface search radar flying high enough, can indirectly detect the Sea Shadow, as the return signal from the ocean surface will be absent where the ship is, so its detected because it dosn't reflect enough of the radar beams back, to mimic what that the ocean surface does. 🤔🤔🤔
@許進曾 Жыл бұрын
@@ronansmith9148 It does reflect things back, but it will be too small and be filtered out by the computer as ground clutter.
@CokeCheese Жыл бұрын
The new destroyers were all built around a concept of a guided/highly precise ordinance gun (VGAS). A fancy and insanely expensive concept that was still in the planning stages when the ships were proposed and built. When problems with the guided munitions arose, it simply made all the other problems the ships were experiencing unbearable. With each round costing almost 1 million, well... Obviously the idea was scrapped with the munitions cost balloning to ludicrous levels. Basically the ships were built in anticipation of having cost effective guided munitions. Something the contractor promised but couldn't deliver. There are articles everywhere about it. Finger pointing everywhere, too. A real clusterfuck.
@fallty Жыл бұрын
Wasn't this particular prototype moored at the "ghost fleet" off San Francisco for a time? I seem to remember a series of photos of the ships with this among them.
@ConanDuke Жыл бұрын
8:18 Pontoon?
@__.111. Жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas Nick!!!
@maulana-160 Жыл бұрын
No matter how stealth a surface ship can be, it's no match for submarine's Stealth ability, and the fact that submarine can launch torpedo and missile while diving and being protected from air-strike makes us wonder why do we even need a stealth surface ship in the first place.
@marcalvarez4890 Жыл бұрын
An order of magnitude cheaper...thats why.
@maulana-160 Жыл бұрын
@@marcalvarez4890 Dude, even the least expensive submarine is cheaper than average surface Stealth ship, and yet it still stealthier than them.
@maulana-160 Жыл бұрын
Damn i used too much stealth
@deepbludreams Жыл бұрын
Subs don't have "stealth" an undetectable sub does not exist, nor a "stealthy" one, good reason why subs spent the entire cold war tracking each other. Subs only have "Stealth" with in X distance of destroyers, it's why modern sonar systems are such a heavily protected state secret. They are just hard to surface detect because modern ones can just stay underwater for their whole patrol, surface ships can and do detect subs with hydroacoustic systems of various flavors, and after a torpedo or missile launch they pretty much instantly die from return fire in the form of surface ship launched torpedoes or helicopter anti-sub torpedoes/depth charges Also on the surface or at launch depth they are pretty easily detected, the destroyer is still the natural hunter of subs, subs have not displaced surface ships, hell even an entire class of aircraft exist to kill subs, not to mention aircraft dropped submarine detection systems. So no, Subs are not protected against air strikes, if anything they are the least protected, they cannot really defend themselves and any hit will in most cases sink a sub.
@Veldazandtea Жыл бұрын
@@deepbludreams Turn off the subs power. There. Stealth sub.
@CheeseDanish8510 ай бұрын
There was a Micro Machines model of this ship. I have one. It has a door along the top that flips open to reveal round missiles of some kind, ready to launch.
@johnbradshaw2347 Жыл бұрын
Looks like that stealth ship from that James Bond movie.
@havokvladimirovichstalinov Жыл бұрын
It is. That boat was based off of if not directly used the Sea Shadow
@TheMadSlavik Жыл бұрын
The one in the movie is shown to be much bigger though. I wonder if they were able to use the real ship or used a miniature. The timing looks right as well since it was just declassified when Tomorrow Never Dies came out and the ship wasn't destroyed yet.
@jonm2438 Жыл бұрын
the Villain in the James bond film “Die another Day” used that ship as his flagship. It was neat
@charlesolinger9735 Жыл бұрын
Easy answer is. The sun comes up every day. Stealth goes away. Kinda lame.
@mirthenary Жыл бұрын
Then explain stealth aircraft🤔
@protogenxl Жыл бұрын
Flat black dot on a already dark colored north sea ocean in a shape to readily recognized as a ship
@sandsandwich9217 Жыл бұрын
@@mirthenarysimple, stealth aircraft have the speed advantage and could outrun and outmanuever missiles and other aircraft, while a stealth ship has the disadvantage of not being able to hide in the clouds like a jet fighter does, also Stealth Submarines have the advantage of outmanuevering and counter enemy fire by diving or deploying dummy submersible's to confuse enemy torpedoes. Generally Stealth Ships have the disadvantage of not being able to hide their radar cross section efficiently and not being able to outrun their enemies without depleting their weapons and other assets, once that ship is spotted enemy aircraft will be sent for support and destroy it, all in all stealth technology is only highly feasable on submersibles and aircraft.
@theradlad5615 Жыл бұрын
@mirthenary Three words, sky high clouds.
@taitano12 Жыл бұрын
Eh, the daylight visibility thing can be solved with the right paint job. Maybe an updated Dazzle design so the angles don't stand out so much. That's all I can think of... Not much better than current designs.🤷
@Eluderatnight Жыл бұрын
How to make a stealth anything; make a scifi movie and say "its just a prop bro"
@NinjaMan47 Жыл бұрын
The thing is we already invented Stealth ships over a century ago, they are called Submarines.
@grimmlinn Жыл бұрын
Which are significantly slower and vulnerable while surfacing. The sea shadow was for quick insertion of special forces.
@Themaritimes99 Жыл бұрын
@@grimmlinn lol
@konstantinavalentina3850 Жыл бұрын
I think the model is wrong. There was a boat called "Ghost" built by Inventor Gregory Sancoff who wanted to make a cool boat for the Navy had propellers in the front of the torpedo-looking pods. The propeller in the front design created a supercavitation effect allowing the boat to go much faster. The Sea shadow takes many design elements from Gregory Sancoff's design. Whether or not Sancoff got anything out of the Navy "borrowing" from his concept is probably locked away behind security clearances and NDAs.
@timeshark8727 Жыл бұрын
Frankly, stealth ships are redundant. Being able to find, and more importantly hit, a ship in the open ocean with long range guns or missiles is already incredibly difficult. When attacking fleets with planes you are often within visual range, which there is no stealth for. Then there are submarines, which are an entire class of stealth ships.
@Demonslayer20111 Жыл бұрын
You can see a ship of any decent size at hundreds of miles with radar, basically to the horizon, which can be extended with aircraft. If you can't see it on radar you would need to visually acquire it, which fair weather is about 30 miles or so. Not to mention the fact that stealthly ships DO exist. There are many full stealth, and reduced radar cross section ships, the new Gerald R Ford carriers being one, as well as the San Antonio class amphibious dock ships.
@mirandela777 Жыл бұрын
"When attacking fleets with planes you are often within visual range" 🤣Yeah, sure, is not like we have radars, and airborne radar, who can "see" ships at hundreds of KMs, or sonars, who can "hear" ships at THOUSANDS of KMs ! Or satellites / drones, who can see a ship trails from space !
@Wannes_ Жыл бұрын
Just about all newly constructed warships have some degree of stealth measures, like angling the sides, hiding anchors ,lifeboats, fittings, behind screens or inside the superstructure, cutting off corners, weird shaped stanchions, less black paint, ...
@mirandela777 Жыл бұрын
@@Wannes_ - true, but only an idiot ( or mafia and corrupted DoD, like the US ) will invest zillions ( zillions like in Zumwalt, the murican failed withe elephant ! ) only an idiot will invest millions in a full stealth ship - is just impossible to "hide" a big surface ship. Is NOT just the Radar - is the visual acquisition from Space, the IR signature, and, crucial, the NOISE. You simply CANNOT move FAST ( over 20 knots) and remain silent. Especially on the surface. Modern satellites can spot the trails of medium/big ships from thousands of KM, then extrapolate instantly the position of the ship. Any decent navy who want stealth ships will build subs. Corrupted idiots will build Zumwalt.
@timeshark8727 Жыл бұрын
@@Demonslayer20111 Being able to find the general area of a ship and being able to hit a ship are very different things.
@ralphrotten6912 Жыл бұрын
Got to see this ship in its covered floating dock at MARAD in Benicia CA. Impressive.
@ultrajd Жыл бұрын
The original Sea Shadow was likely retired either scrapped or is being held in storage somewhere. However, see that the idea of a stealth surface ship is bonkers in my mind is being too shortsighted. Now a lot of people seem to get terms, mixed up or mixed together. For instance, I’ve seen people basically use the phrase stealth to equate to essentially invisibility. Now stealth doesn’t necessarily mean being visually unidentifiable or detectable. Current stealth technology is all about being invisible to sensors. After all, even on a flat featureless ocean , without advanced optics and stuff even trained naval personnel likely will not actually see a ship coming until it is at the point of which we would call on the horizon. And by the way, the average human can only see about I think it’s 10 miles before their brain essentially can’t discern what something is in the distance without enhanced optics. The sea shadow itself I like to think it was more of a proof of concept. Rather than an outright idea for a ship. Now the kind of technology that it used to float, and all that stuff is a well understood technology. In fact, there are private companies that are developing Both pleasurecraft, and even potential rescue vehicles that have a similar design in terms of how they go through their locomotion. One of which is very interesting, where the screws actually aren’t on the rear of the vessel they’re actually at the front. And they act like the propellers on an airplane, pulling the vessel through the water instead of pushing. But again, I’m more than willing to bet that the technology that was used for the development of the sea. Shadow is probably still highly classified and newer versions are likely on the drawing board, if not in small scale, prototyping tests. Vessels like this would be ideal for the deployment of special forces units, or even to be used as scouting vessels. Hell, another idea would be use the overall design, but shrink it and turn it into an un spy device or something. Honestly, the overall idea of a vessel like the sea shadow at least I personally feel is scientifically and tactically sound. Think about it this way. The Comanche. The space age looking stealth helicopter that would’ve probably supported and then maybe it some point replaced the attack helicopters such as the Apache and cobra. Allegedly that program was also shelved, but we also need to take any consideration. The fact of the alleged stealth Blackhawk helicopters that were used during operation Neptune spear. Something tells me that the stealth attack chopper idea didn’t pan out at least as much as we know they likely use the data for the development of these stealth versions of the Blackhawks. They say that the project has been canceled likely does not mean that the project truly has been canceled. It may simply be stated that way to pull it out of the public eye. Perhaps something was discovered that required more in-depth and secretive testing.
@1slotmech Жыл бұрын
Sea Shadow was scrapped. Its hangar, after sitting in the Suisun Bay mothball fleet for a number of years, was sold to a ship repair company for use as a floating dry dock; Bay Ship & Yacht Co, Alameda CA USA. (Right next to the Main Street Ferry terminal. You can see it any day you take the ferry. :) )
@Phil_Goodman Жыл бұрын
I originally watched your channel to help me fall asleep, but now I am watching it even on my free time.
@bryhens Жыл бұрын
What would happen if the ship was made into a stealth aircraft carrier with stealth planes?
@F-14D_Tomcat Жыл бұрын
Its still kinda hard to make a carrier stealthy from things like satelites
@Phantom-bh5ru Жыл бұрын
would be hard unless it does not keep any planes on deck. even stealth planes. if a bunch of them are lined up on a carrier deck would be a beacon
@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462 Жыл бұрын
The stealth planes and stealth aircraft carriers would just crash into each other and sink day one.
@MostlyPennyCat Жыл бұрын
We built it. Then we lost it, we forgot where we parked it and now it's gone forever
@F-14D_Tomcat Жыл бұрын
@@YellowLab-bg3os true that satellites have time windows, but those time windows are very short. But even if you managed to stealth the entire support fleet, the enemy are bound to notice something. Also the sub carrier worked, but it probably couldnt carry enough fighters, ammo, or jet fuel to be effective
@ComboBreakerHD Жыл бұрын
World of Warships ads are so funny like look how realistic every single detail is also here's Godzilla using a stack like a stripper pole
@Stealth_Pilot Жыл бұрын
Sharkbite looking ass ship
@sonofeyeabovealleffoff5462Ай бұрын
Nod has this thing as a capital ship (The Sea Shadow) in the mod for Command and Conquer called Dawn of the Tiberium age. It launches napalm cluster missile artillery. At heroic rank it fires off Tiberium Chemical Cluster Missiles, poisoning areas.
@dzzope Жыл бұрын
Ahh yea, the stealth ship, something they had already solved even more comprehensivly with submarines and without the drawback of just being visible.. Wonder why they didn't catch on 😂
@bluestingray8955 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment, it’s so true
@petermgruhn Жыл бұрын
If that were true, then there'd be no other warships. There are other warships. They aren't very stealth. Wouldn't it be nice if they were? Let's build a testbed to see what we can learn. To apply to the non-submarine navy that we already have and expect to continue to have.
@bluestingray8955 Жыл бұрын
@@petermgruhn the modern surface fleet is not designed with stealth as the main priority, their roles are completely different. The reason people don’t make stealth ships is that there is no obvious advantages to them over submarines which are inherently better at being inconspicuous. I can’t name one thing a stealth surface ship can do that a submarine can’t do. Wanna sneak up on an enemy ship and sink it with torpedoes? Use a submarine. Wanna conduct reconnaissance on enemy naval activities? Use a submarine. Want to deliver special forces soldiers inconspicuously to an enemy shoreline? Use a submarine. In conclusion stealth ships aren’t a thing because which have submarines which are objectively better
@neves508311 ай бұрын
You're going to make an vídeo on that SWATH destroyer right 3:32 ?
@poucxs9246 Жыл бұрын
The cartoon drawing @ 2:24, is there a name to the style in which the drawing was made?
@EverythingRomeo_8411 ай бұрын
I remember looking over and seeing this thing while driving on base at Norfolk Naval base. Looked so cool. Would have been fun if they gave us a tour or told us about it. It was out in the open no hanger or anything they just didn't give it any press like it was a dying ship no one wanted to talk about. Like fast and the furious Tokyo drift.
@Erik-rp1hi Жыл бұрын
During testing they kept it a San Nicolas Island. I'm a scuba diver and when we had a chartered a boat out to there we were told the island was closed for that time.Only later we found out it was Sea Shadow doing test ops out of its barge. I went and saw the ship when it came to San Pedro for the public to check out. I read it was to good and made a blank spot on radar.
@richardpaquette835211 ай бұрын
We visited San Nicolas once to demo a seal insertion. Never stored there.
@phenomagator Жыл бұрын
Maybe they got so stealthy we can't find them anymore.
@13thravenpurple94 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video 👍 Thank you 💜 and Merry Christmas 🎁🎄🎅
@Insomniacsloth10 ай бұрын
What are those "+"-like marking on the side starting at the water line?
@herosplays7981 Жыл бұрын
seems like an interesting concept
@dontcarejustwatchvid11 ай бұрын
I got to speak to a former member of the DoD (1950s/60s) and they spoke whole heartedly about the technology available to the US military. The stuff you actually have, and HAVEN'T seen. I feel like the secrecy featured in this video is a testament to their information.
@randompanda876 Жыл бұрын
The fact that at one point this was a real ship is actually crazy
@EPluribusUnumSemper Жыл бұрын
Back in the early 2000s my ship was moored on the same pier as this ship at the San Diego Naval Base 32nd St. wet side.
@jasonpoland5507 Жыл бұрын
I love this used the sinking barge for Project Azorian / Glomar Explorer
@twistedyogert10 ай бұрын
"The SONAR focusing on my camera isn't working." *"That's the secret. It's not supposed to work."*
@1337flite Жыл бұрын
Seems to work for RN SSNs - take a look at the Astute hulls.
@MrManerd11 ай бұрын
6:50 "Twin hull under the surface",,, I believe that is called catamaran hull?
@gelinrefira11 ай бұрын
The FREMM, Visby, and pretty much most of every new frigate and destroyer built today are based on LO. Just look the PLAN ships, look at the type 055, it's the culmination of stealth tech in ships.
@patricksanders85811 ай бұрын
I actually got to see this ship in person on the SF Bay. It was like a black shadow crossing the water.
@mattevans437711 ай бұрын
Honestly I think this kind of ship makes the most sense as a transport. Drive up to a shore undetected, unload a special forces team, and then back off and let them do their thing, before coming back for them later on.
@stillamarine100111 ай бұрын
In 1995 I was stationed at North Island Naval Air Station. Can’t say what I was doing on that base but I did see this ship come in while on duty. It was all hush hush stuff.
@harrishayes5120 Жыл бұрын
I’m a masters naval architecture student designing a swath wind farm support vessel and even I don’t fully know quite what to call the “nacelles”. People call them sponsons, pontoons and demihulls from the papers I’ve read.
@harryjohnson9215 Жыл бұрын
Talk to the R class battleship about stealth Bombarding a port without the port knowing it was there
@QalOrt Жыл бұрын
I had a toy Sea Shadow as a kid and the top part near the stowage bay could open and reveal four missiles.
@Sagart9999 ай бұрын
Sea Shadow was being designed while I was assigned as a junior officer to the NAVSEA Preliminary Design Branch. Sea Shadow was one of those programs with a huge "need to know" sticker on it, and the powers that be decided I didn't have that particular need. So, independent of that team's work, I actually designed my own stealth corvette. I had done my post-graduate work on SWATH hullforms (like Sea Shadow), but I based my stealth design on using a single large lower hull on the centerline and a pair of sloped "outrigger" waterplane areas like you see in this video. There are certain minimum dimensions associated with propulsion machinery components, so by packaging them in a single slightly larger diameter centerbody, I was able to make the overall vessel smaller than it would have been otherwise. What comes around goes around and fifteen years later I became part of the DDG 1000 design team.
@1980Baldeagle Жыл бұрын
Saw a stealth ship on the Washington coast when i went salmon fishing in October. Looked cool. Tried looking it up online but i couldn't positively ID it.
@piergaay Жыл бұрын
09:40 The project was so secret only todlings had permission to view. 🤣
@chanchkj Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you shrink it down, would it make a good attack drone?
@steveshoemaker6347 Жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT VIDEO.....Thanks very much from an Old F-4 Phantom 2 Shoe🇺🇸