What Former Intelligence Secretary Christopher Mellon Thinks of Bob Lazar

JRE #1645 w/Christopher Mellon:
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[@miketeeveedub5779]

Asking a former Intelligence Secretary about confirming top secret events at a top secret area is useless. Might as well ask him what are the secret 11 herbs and spices used at KFC.

[@SunnySideUp360]

This is pure gold. And undoubtedly true.

[@kevinmurphy5878]

Bob Lazar knows the 11 secret herbs and spices

[@nyc9993]

Paid government schill toadie clueless worthless

[@SteaIthyMan]

Top secret isn't as serious as u think...

[@SteaIthyMan]

@@kevinmurphy5878 that's about all he knows

[@thenoobstation2519]

I like how this guy says "Nothing that the taxpayer would object too". Sounds like something someone working for the government would say lol

[@jayday1503]

I agree

[@joemama.556]

sound exactly like what someone would say if they were doing things that taxpayers would object to

[@coyotesmile8972]

How would he know what a taxpayer wants? He probably doesn't even know any taxpayers.

[@berto2125]

Sounds like someone who doesn't pay taxes 🤨🤨

[@MMAFreaks]

You mean Joe Rogan and Alex Jones are not CIA shill agents and have CIA friends shocking LOL

[@MrFrostCA]

so we go from "bob never worked on Area 51" 20 years ago to "he was the just the janitor" 10 years ago to finally "nah he was the radiation badges guy" ? Interesting.

[@tohellandbacknoface4091]

All in 5 mins too

[@kevinadamson5768]

It's called disinformation. Discredit the guy and muddy the waters to make him look a fool. That's intelligence for you.

[@maggotrawr]

@@kevinadamson5768 Bob is full of shit, end of story.

[@dhotnessmcawesome9747]

In 30 more years their kids will say "Bob was legit. We're dicks. Sorry."

[@horseclock6454]

​@@dhotnessmcawesome9747more like in 30 years they'll say "Bob, or who you know as Bob, was actually a hostile alien in disguise. Which is why the government had him eliminated and his body vaporized, now no one else mention him anymore."

[@Slevencolevra]

Mellon showed exactly who he works for.

[@clives344]

Yes hes reading from the same Government script

[@StefanRandall]

Yep exactly

[@drunkwolf2477]

you can tell right away he doesnt pass Rogans sniff test, but Lazar did with flying colors.

[@karp8]

So much of his story has been debunked, he is a grifter. Alot of people have done independent research on it you can look into... I dont disagree that once a spook always a spook but u should look into it more

[@KurtColville]

@@karp8 Yep. Both of these clowns are full of shit.

[@FH-cn3mg]

Government Backpedalling 1990: Bob is a liar, Area 51 doesn't exist. 2000: Ok Area 51 exists but Bob is still lying about working there. 2021: Ok, Bob did work there but he didn't do anything important...

[@leroilapue15]

Yeah the lies are so damn obvious now...it's about time we demand more from our governments

[@waynesanders1406]

2038: Bob Lazar dies of heart attack, later that year we find out everything was true, and he only described a tenth of the craziness that was actually going on there, but Internet information overload is so bad it's impossible for anyone who didn't already follow Joe Rogan by 2022 to find out.

[@ImRicWooo]

Explain why Lazar say they took the crafts out and made them hover or whatever yet they dont use them. Lazars story makes no sense. Hes there to figure out what makes these craft fly but they can take them out and fly them? So they know the commands or system to operate them but just wonder how its powered.. Such nonsense.

[@frankiesprul5046]

@@ImRicWooo isn't the government's response to his story making it bait tho

[@Wamagirii]

God help us all.....

[@MikeHaywood]

0:30 the cut was because mid shoot a couple of men in black suits rolled into the studio to intervene

[@PedroSilva-jl9bt]

This is a hint to take the conversation with a big pinch of salt, as Jamie doesn't let stuff like this slip away, specially in the exact moment that is was.

[@ethimself5064]

I saw 4

[@Mudvayne_187]

For reallllllllll

[@AntonioGonzalez-nc8tq]

Came here for this comment

[@ethimself5064]

@@Mudvayne_187 Now that I have thought about it, na -was 6

[@jasonwareing905]

I trust Bob Lazar much more than any government official

[@Toripusutashi]

Esp CIA - Once CIA, always CIA

[@toddschwarz5148]

Facts ❤ Bob Lazar lost everything and didn’t lie! The Government is lying

[@pahwraith]

How do you know bob lazar isnt a government agent running a disinformation propaganda campaign.

[@charleswest6372]

He is a government official.

[@joshuawhite3628]

Especially one worth $100 million and from one of the original elite families…

[@lm5085]

Cool conversation. I met Chris Mellon back in 96. A nice conversation with him. Was a interesting day for me. Met a lot of people that day. And yes I worked in the military at that time.

[@TheJokerEffect]

"I'll tell you another story off air." Joe: "Yay!" All of us: "Fuck!"

[@sitdowncomedyXD]

that's how you get Joe in the Matrix of lies. hahaha

[@wolfleon3460]

Tell me about it 😭😭😭

[@Nelson4207]

Its a way to prove a point without actually proving shit. Dude is a screwball, even ppl around him said so.🙈

[@xXKraNcaRXx]

And proceeded off air to explain to him in depth why Lazar is full of shit so Joe doesn't keep in embarrassing himself.

[@HornetBojan]

They say ... I'm skeptical ... And then ... I'll tell you off air ... Pure gold.

[@davismastrantonio1088]

Hi, sorry for the clarification, but the 115 element, MC, is called Moscovio, Laurentium is 103. Thanks. Your program is amazing. A big greeting from Italy

[@stevet8607]

Exactly 💯🔥 , this guy is a 🤡🤡🤡

[@UncleHaul]

Bob Lazar knew it was Moscovium off the top of his head just saying.

[@dr.ofdubiouswisdom4189]

I like the way Joe baits him - like he couldn't care less about who's telling the truth - to get him to commit into feeding derogatory statements about Bob. Bob's interviews are very detailed & he doesn't stumble on questioning. He seems very credible.

[@Kommiekiller]

“Nothing the tax payer would object to” Tell me you work for the government without telling me you work for the government

[@FedericoLucchi]

Must been been a deeply sarcastic comment... can't explain it otherwise.

[@noahmcdarby5417]

Tell me you dont pay taxes without telling me...

[@jd43tv56]

I don’t remember voting on that one, you?

[@davegoodwin1848]

Government: "Lazar never worked there". Also government: "I know his former supervisor there"....

[@bj3956]

He worked for a contractor that worked for the government, it says so in the directory where he is listed, so that’s why there’s is no record of him, and his jobs were low skilled jobs like checking badges at the door..

[@aliensoup7506]

Haha perfect 😂

[@_santos13]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@SunnyandNova]

@@bj3956 Yeah he checked badges and then went home and built flux capacitors and rocket propelled car engines from scratch at his home lol fk this guy he’s hating lol 😂

[@iassinjar1537]

@@bj3956 where does it say he worked for a contractor? Can I have evidence?

[@GeoffCK]

Bob Lazar passed a polygraph that was administered by one of the preeminent experts in the field in 1990. The polygrapher worked at a local police department at the time and they received a call from an unnamed government agency telling them to muzzle this guy. A few days later, the polygraphers house was broken into and it’s believed they were looking for the Lazar polygraph. They never found it and it wouldn’t have mattered because the polygrapher made copies of the document in anticipation of such shenanigans by the feds. I’ve been on the fence about the Lazar story for many years but the polygrapher is adamant that the story is truthful and I believe him.

[@olas591]

great data amigo

[@robr7200]

There is a reason polygraphs aren't admissible in court

[@GeoffCK]

@@robr7200 no one is talking about beyond a reasonable doubt here. We’re talking about a compelling case that appears to clear the hurdle for most reasonable people.

[@anon2414]

Who cares? I lied my ass off during the police background process and I passed the polygraph. You know how easy it is to pass a polygraph

[@olas591]

@@anon2414 shit of police you have in your town then mate, I feel sorry for you and your family, take good care of them I can only suggest.

[@ricardo.carrara.7062]

Dude is the most qualified disinformation inteligence agent nowadays, it's actually impossible to believe anything he says.

[@olas591]

you sense you can't even trust him by the tone of his voice

[@olas591]

you sense you can't even trust him by the tone of his voice

[@ricardo.carrara.7062]

@@olas591 for sure lol

[@StefanRandall]

So true.

[@selfishstockton6123]

Bob Lazar is not a misinformation artist

[@gavinminty4974]

“I knew his supervisor, and he only checked radiation on badges.” The US government claims he never worked there. Weird.

[@sayyid5869]

If you actually believe he reverse engineered UFO technology when he came last in his class God bless you.

[@MrNiceHk]

@@sayyid5869 Eisenstein failed his entrance exam to a Polytechnic, peace be with you.

[@sayyid5869]

@@MrNiceHk Lol why did Einstien flunk it? Cause the exam was in French, something he wasn’t fluent in at the time I can see how your trying to make excuses for this total fraud, a man who was charged for being involved in a prostitute ring and again for seeking illegal chemicals. MIT holds no records of him ever having studied there.

[@sayyid5869]

@@MrNiceHk Another thing if he actually did work on alien aircraft, he of course had to sign a bunch of NDA’s I mean how is not rotting in some military jail rn?

[@nshadoze1]

@@sayyid5869 Putting him in jail would confirm his stories are true then. Wouldn't it?

[@Tank4Life]

He says everything you would expect a former Intelligence Secretary to say.

[@savedfaves]

“Former”

[@CravenMoorhead_23]

@@user-gs2jg7fr9e like what? Care to expand on your statement? How about a little specificity?

[@johnmcgrath3842]

He doesn't look completely comfortable in the interview does he?

[@tylerleebash]

@@user-gs2jg7fr9e Such as?

[@irishwins4576]

@@user-gs2jg7fr9e what are the red flags? Answer

[@joshcantrell8397]

Bob was actually an electronics technician and was directly employed by los alamos. But was employed by a company that Los alamos lab contracted to work on their machines and equipment.

[@natemurray311]

Legitimate Sources please? Not from a KZbin Bob Debunk...

[@crunchycrackers7364]

He worked at Los Alamos not for Los Alamos. Kerk meyer was a contractor for Los Alamos.

[@joshcantrell8397]

@@crunchycrackers7364 ya that’s what I said. He was employed by a company that Los alamos contracted. He wasn’t directly employed by Los alamos. And yes, thank you kerk mayer was the company he actually worked for. He wasn’t an engineer.

[@joshcantrell8397]

@@natemurray311 umm I can’t share it here. But there’s a Reddit post with over 50 sources and links to the sources. It’s not that hard to find if you actually want to go research the “real bob” for yourself.

[@80s_Boombox_Collector]

@@joshcantrell8397 Dude's a clown who never would have had the credentials or clearance to work on something this secret. They're not gonna hire a guy to work on the most sensitive project in US history just because one person knew him.

[@smac919]

Lazar is a smart dude, he did build a hydrogen engine on his own, and.. if you can do that, you’re not just checking badges for radiation.

[@jd8184]

is there video of him building it?

[@benfrank6520]

ok how do you know? let me tell you i built a fusion reactor on my own interstellar spaceship built on kepler 438b when i was 2 years old. do you believe me?

[@ItsOkayToEatPlaydo]

"I've been to Area 51, I didn't see any flying saucers" he might as well said "I've been to Pakistan, I didn't see Bin Laden"

[@esketit1707]

Innit like there just casually laying around hell aliens probably having a beer getting a tan

[@ZeroFcksGven]

@esketit1707 innit? You're from the UK?

[@ETAisNOW]

He didn’t say it like that’s proof they aren’t there, he said like he immediately knew what the follow up question would be if he said he went to Area 51.

[@moomalrind8254]

Do you research Afghanistan

[@BB-yo9yp]

@@ETAisNOW Yes!!! But he was implying that Bob is a liar. In truth, I don't believe this guy?!!!!

[@bird1311]

“Some people are just really good at lying” . this whole conversation is like a stand off and i love it

[@astyanax905]

lazar isn't even that good at lying, how anyone can watch him for longer than a few minutes is beyond me

[@Sleepszn379]

@@astyanax905 he's taken lie detectors with George

[@GuvernorDave]

@@Sleepszn379 I believe bob but "lie detector"s are kinda useless

[@koozie83]

… and most of them work for the government…

[@tonoornottono]

@@astyanax905 i’ve never heard him contradict himself. the only time i’ve been a little concerned he was lying was when he said “they were too far away to tell the size” right after describing a hole in the side of one of the crafts. but at the same time i could imagine a situation where you could see a hole in something that you couldn’t tell its size. i also don’t understand why he wouldn’t make up some detail, like oh they were this big or this big. why would he lie about knowing their sizes?

[@KeillaSellay]

No such thing as "former intelligence". Once CIA, always CIA.

[@terror-vk7jx]

cia wouldn’t wanna b ya!

[@thetruthchannel4634]

Right, you never leave the CIA . Can you believe that Anderson Cooper was CIA then went into media ? They had to move him. He hang out in the mens room constantly. He said “ I want to be the CIAs mouthpiece, so wham ….. CNN came calling. Still employed by the CIA. Has his own bathroom

[@tylerklimes4263]

@@thetruthchannel4634 he worked for 2 years as a intern a simple google search would let u know that

[@elperronimo]

Once a glowie, always a glowie

[@eurus2666]

Actually very false but okay.

[@parthenonx2697]

I love how every other answer and explanation is more considered and pondered than the truth.

[@Hambam123]

Well this guys job is and will always be to cover things up. That being said, the new videos of similar crafts he explained 30 years ago, are very compelling.

[@ryanmanley389]

the fact that Los Alamos Laboratory lied when they said he didnt work there when he actually did speaks volumes.

[@albinomma]

Why does that speak volumes?

[@tiffanyhendricks1860]

@@albinomma because they’re (Los Alamos) the ones lying, which corroborates his story.

[@DrMantisT0boggan]

@@tiffanyhendricks1860 it doesn’t corroborate shit haha That’s not how it works. All it means is they weren’t truthful about his employment status, there is no line to be drawn other than conjecture

[@albinomma]

@@tiffanyhendricks1860 the lab has done that with many other former employees too. It's their job to keep secrets.... duh.

[@Ghostrider-ul7xn]

@@albinomma And why would they keep the employment of employees secret? They wouldn't do that without any reason. That should immediately make you suspicious of them.

[@junkdnareviews2515]

This guy was on damage control from the start. That laugh he does when Joe says ‘what did you see’ says it all.

[@ThePolicenaut]

He's probably right about what he saw,the juicy stuff is supposed to be at s4 and i doubt even he would be allowed to visit it

[@myselfandeye3884]

Yeah he laughed because he knows that there are people like you out there who want to believe there are aliens at area 51.

[@zyyy1784]

@@myselfandeye3884 people like you i feel sorry for he’s clearly a puppet and btw there more invested in the tech not the infinite intelligent species of the universe

[@Crimin4L]

@@myselfandeye3884 Nobody is talking about aliens, we are talking about their flying disks, and everything was probably moved the second bob lazar put area 51 on the map. Would be stupid to keep anything there with all the attention around it.

[@guitarboy0211]

@@myselfandeye3884 gotta feel sorry for sheep like you that just buy up whatever news channels and celebrities tell ya.

[@mikebrannon4194]

Bob was the first to tell the world about 51, S4, UnunPentium/element 115 in the EIGHTIES! His story has never changed. The feds made his life hell, he got divorced, lost his job, and he still told the same story. did not make any $ off the story, didnt really even want to talk about it after all the drama. He seems real deal. Although anything is possible. Seems like a lot of people want to take him down and discredit him which is exactly what they do when they want someone out of the way.

[@eliasc1947]

He made a book (called Dreamland) and profited from it. Also, he sells stuff related to Area 51, S4 even signed sketches of the UFO on his website. How can you say he never made money from it?

[@olas591]

@@eliasc1947 he never wrote a book

[@Olsenator]

I do believe lazar. But the 115 thing isn’t a good piece of evidence. If you understand the periodic table. It’s very predictable. We know there are elements into the two hundreds. More than that. They can tell you exactly what numbers those are. Simply by following the clear pattern of elements. It’s very reliable. The problem is. The higher the number the less stable generally. That’s why the higher numbers have yet to be “observed” they dissipate so quickly. Element 115 as described by lazar was stable. Element 115 as described by science as we know it. Is not stable. The properties lazar talked about with his 115 are not the properties of 115 as we know it. I believe he worked with some element. But was it 115? Or something else?

[@imagiraffe2848]

​@@eliasc1947 It was George Knapp who wrote the book. It was a biography of Bob's life, mostly the Area 51 stuff and the events that took place after they told that story. Also, Knapp made the movie about Bob Lazar, it was never Bob behind those projects. I can't say he made $0 but he never profited as much as people would think. Again, because none of those were HIS projects.

[@O-Kyklop]

Elements have a place in the Periodic Table of the Elements even if they aren't yet discovered. That's the way Mendeleev worked out the Table, by calculating the properties of the unknown elements and placing them in their right order. As for his sufferings for telling the truth, well, this is not the way to take someone down who is not supposed to talk about heavily protected military secrets. Lazar is still alive, free to go where he wants to go and keeps telling his story.

[@lane522pendleton8]

“Nothing that the tax payer would object to” that sentence right there tells you everything😭

[@ToddJambon]

Joe: Do aliens like elk meat? Chris: I'll tell you after the show.

[@immortaltyger1569]

The real question is what the aliens think of DMT.

[@level9drow856]

@@harveyfarquard2327 You beat me to it, LOL. We SEE them tripping and looking into our dimension.

[@briano9397]

These ppl will spill anything if there's no mic on and they like you

[@digitalhippie2336]

@@immortaltyger1569 they want to know what we think about DMT (if you know what I'm talking about 😏)

[@AustinfromNashville]

Why did this make me laugh

[@robm8746]

Joe Rogan: "I don't want to say too much because he told me not to talk about it so I'll tell you off-air." Remind me to never tell any secrets to Joe Rogan.

[@todds79jag]

Best comment …( A couple of tease bitches)

[@kcsov6]

Soft ass Spotify Joe Rogan. KZbin Joe Rogan would have been like "take a hit and we'll talk about it man"

[@sadbravesfan]

@@kcsov6 Not true because he has mentioned speaking off-air with other guests before joining Spotify.

[@kaptenkrok8123]

This is whar lazar the charlatan wants

[@Ilikemusic101]

Yeah this made me wonder, did Bob Lazar tell him stuff that he supposedly has never told to the public?

[@colinsmith8584]

I 100% believe Bob Lazar. In the early 80's my Mom dated an Engineer that described to me, some of the exact same things Bob did years later. To include the base in the side of a mountain and how he would fly in from LV to work there.

[@davismastrantonio1088]

I seem to remember that in early interviews, Bob Lazar called it ununpentio which is one of the first names given to the element.

[@MrJayehawk]

Always lots of fun to listen to a podcast where the host and guest agree to tell each other stories privately. Thanks a lot, guys.

[@UFCresultsweekly]

Yeah sort of ruined it as it makes you feel like podcasts are getting more censored but I understand not every convo is for the ears

[@BurnOldPeople]

Out of respect for the person who told him not to run his mouth on screen with what he said to him in confidence that he wouldn't. So if you were in his shoes would you tell the private story,? I highly doubt you would spill your guts like that or you wouldn't make it far in his shoes.

[@alang4190]

@@UFCresultsweekly yeah i thought it was kinda cool and mysterious. if all this is real then joe might be in the know of some craazy shit

[@jebediahblingfield8772]

very disrespectful to the people listening. they should be transparent about everything.

[@muaykaiser]

Its the next best thing

[@mickkev]

Christopher Mellon looks like someone who's sole mission is to hide truth.

[@RolandAshcroft]

He should smoke a cigarette every 5 minutes.

[@ryanjones5592]

@Jason Evans he is the Government 😂 Look up his resumé. Rogan is asking the lead agent in this psyop what he thinks about another intell agent used in a previous, but related psyop.

[@c.j.9072]

@@ryanjones5592 The government needs to do a little better than that, saying no he didn't work there...ok he did work there but his job was to check the badges for radiation. A brilliant scientist and that was his job give me a break, and what the hell is going on there where they would need to hire a guy to check badges for radiation. WTF that may have been the dumbest reason I ever heard on why they don't believe Bob Lazar.

[@ryanjones5592]

@@c.j.9072 ever think the government muddies the waters to make them seem deep?

[@JoelTGM]

Okay.

[@outoftheforest7652]

"I will tell you this story off line"... Uhg.. I WANNA HEAR!!!!!

[@Crimsonland1]

How do you explain that one? “Well there was a bar nearby.” LOL

[@Strype13]

"I'll tell you off-air. He told me not to tell anybody." Wow. That's awfully loyal of you, Joe. What a friend.

[@king_fool7815]

He said he was told not to talk about it on air!

[@chuknorris12]

You'd trust a former intelligence secretary with a secret better than most people

[@jestice75]

@@chuknorris12 But it was allegedly some awful shit the US. The same type of awful shit the intelligence secretary spent his entire career covering up.

[@Moviewer]

Never heard about those offline stories before. That was weird.

[@dieseljr7946]

This clip might as well be titled "Joe and Chris talk about what they can't talk about". Pointless

[@ufotv-viral]

🖖🖖👽

[@danielmarshall4587]

Well, maybe so, though it's nice to see "these government people" spin the party line.

[@anthonys239]

Exactly.

[@mpaforoufakis]

True but you find out more for free on spatify

[@caldiehard22]

@@mpaforoufakis it can be difficult for some to sit and just listen.

[@maceawa8132]

When Joe says i cant really talk about it, to This guy 😂

[@rajshivraj]

I love your interview style and your ways to take any word as either to believe or not to believe with balanced skepticism. I didn't know you existed until I listened to your podcasts over last 3 days and now I feel like I know you from a century ago.

[@afout07]

I'm skeptical of this guy's skepticism of Bob's story.

[@lorib360]

Ironically this is the first time I have questioned Mellon. It would be SO easy to erase a student's academic record...

[@mawortz]

what do you expect, he is a government intelligence guy

[@jari6560]

Bob is the most sketchy dude ever , look at his criminal history

[@jari6560]

@matthew bradley lol you tit

[@samuelthomson9765]

@@MrChristyCree lol yeah because scientists never lie. Ever. Cough cough covid cough gain of function research cough cough funding cough

[@ronaldp.vincent8226]

"You put a jet engine in your car? Can you check badges for us?" Makes sense...

[@neilsmith9066]

There's a lot smarter people than Bob Lazar that work at Area 51

[@stevesetzer3361]

Id bet Lazar would be the first to tell you the same. He said he was hired for "thinking outside the box". Who knows what is real. All the alien stuff coming out seems to me as an excuse for more military spending. But who knows. Maybe the aliens will all look like Kate Upton and take me for experimentation

[@neilsmith9066]

@@stevesetzer3361 Seems like a distraction so you dont pay attention to the only President that can't finish a sentence

[@ronaldp.vincent8226]

@@neilsmith9066 Kay. This in no way addresses my point.

[@neilsmith9066]

@@ronaldp.vincent8226 It should address the main point maybe not your point but the main point

[@Martyisruling]

Anyone who works in Intelligence and Counter Intelligence for a good length of time is great at suggestion. This guy never calls Lazar a liar, he simply suggests he might be and slyly introduces some other information that sounds very plausible, but of course he only HEARD this from someone. He doesn't know directly. It's a manipulative tactic to simply create doubt. And, doubt is enough.

[@vessela7484]

Oh boy! exchanging stories offline. Sure is and exciting podcast

[@lmak7696]

Mellon admits he doesn't know much about it, but tries to find every way he can to try to make Lazar seem like a liar

[@mattw1829]

Lazar is a liar. How can you possibly believe Bob is ready and willing to expose what would be by far the most sensitive, classified, earth shattering, course of humanity altering secrets any government has ever managed or even tried to keep hidden, but when it comes to his education background he simply can't reveal the truth that explains why there is no evidence whatsoever proving he attended a school. It's just too secret, he can't reveal what explains that massive hole in his story. Well, he can, but only off the record to Joe Rogan. Give me a break. He can't name a single professor he worked with while earning a Master's degree. Nobody at MIT when he claimed to attend has ever come forward even to say "yeah the name was familiar." He has never tried to prove the government told MIT to destroy the records by naming a single faculty member he worked with. It's like item #1 when people say they don't believe his story, and rather than make even the tiniest effort to vindicate himself, it's all simply too secret for him to talk about. The guy exposing Area 51's secrets. Think.

[@tyc6268]

It’s not hard. He’s literally claiming the government has alien vessels and super advanced technology hidden from the general public. You don’t have to know much to know that’s far fetched. If that were true do you really think that only one guy would come out and tell people about it?

[@hendricksonrunner5015]

He failed, I don't believe this guy. Just mumbo jumbo

[@tyc6268]

@@hendricksonrunner5015 I’ve seen lots of liars on planet earth, I’ve never seen an alien. But I guess that’s just mumbo jumbo.

[@AnEnquiringMind]

I found that interesting too……. Apparently his boss said he just swiped the radiation badges. As soon as he said that I knew he was still under orders to shut him down.

[@masserphi2534]

I trust Chris Mellon about as much as I trust the WuHan labs investigation team

[@outdoorloser4340]

Trust the science!!!

[@darthfootballmaniacs7589]

Lol hysterical all the comments

[@jasoncharles8651]

How about you just come online and tell us all you are going to talk about the interesting stuff and the conspiracys so we cannot hear it, sounds like the start of a great show of lies!

[@outdoorloser4340]

@@jasoncharles8651 You tell em' Jason, trust the science and the elites huh?

[@jayrodriguez497]

I lol’d to that

[@nystagmus]

Element 115 is labeled: Ununpentium (Moscovium). Not whatever christopher mellon called it

[@deafinseattle1]

I am here having another look at C. Mellon's glasses. I have never noticed a pair of glasses that are 'so' nearly invisible on video. Very interesting. Hardly any glare or shiny parts, barely perceptible frame. I notice the screw. Amazing.

[@Peedarb]

Never once got the sense that Bob Lazar was lying or even being deceitful yet this guy's my alarm bells have gone off several times already

[@AQT187]

Kinda on the fence with one foot hanging on the side that thinks he's lying. However, this guy is 100% government lying shill and he only makes me lean to the other side of the fence

[@itze_]

The part where they talk about good liers lololol

[@christopherrose343]

yep

[@Justin-tp1mx]

You must be really really bad at sensing deception then. I bet you think alex jones is really like that, yep got a normal wife and kids but is constantly in a manic state, winking don't mean anything either... Tell me if I'm lying here: "I was abducted by aliens today. I'm not gonna do any interviews though, I've got classes at MIT. You know i dont have classes? That was the aliens, they canceled my classes... no i still can't tell you what happened, because I would be attacked for... telling the truth, everyone knows that people hate when you are honest right? Ok geez stop asking, I'll do the interview but i have a really bad migraine with no symptoms and that's gonna be why my story doesn't make sense and I'll use it to get out of questions." Can you honestly tell whether I was abducted by aliens or not?

[@amiii5950]

Same

[@virtualee2000]

Sooo, Chris was so eager to debunk Lazar, that he unwittingly confirmed that Lazar worked at Area 51.

[@RapCity101]

You are stupid if you believe Lazar. Everytime he gets challenged he has a migrane

[@CutThroatJuggalo]

@@RapCity101 I love when people stupidly make that point as if he has had a migraine for 30 years. Lol

[@dewaynewilliams3710]

He had 1 fuckibg migrane calm down😭😭 lord forbid you have a headache

[@Kate-cg6ii]

Which Joe and Jeremy said all three of them had some drinks the night before when joe went to dinner with them and Bob said I haven't drank in years .. I think he was basically hung over that's where his headache came from

[@BobBob-bv5xc]

No he never worked there. And if he did he only scanned badges for radiation. So he never worked there and he has no educational background. But he probably could build you a laser😂😂😂😂

[@edwardbliss8931]

In the Lazar interview, my favourite line was bringing back a motorcycle back to the 1800s. Yes they could turn it on, but wouldn't know what to make of the plastic fender

[@ulfhdnr]

The fact the government tried to say he didn’t work there convinced me.

[@C-Murph]

The best part of that interview was the part we didn't even hear...

[@discgolfinrude]

I haven't signed up for spotify yet. Is it worth it? Do I have to sign up or can I listen as a guest?

[@rickmann5227]

@@discgolfinrude He was referring to the fact that this clip had a huge edit. What they cut out was likely the best part. It won't be on Spotify either. Spotify sucks , but sign up is free

[@EnduringCrow]

Been a Spotify prem. subscriber for many years and it's been great. Except for JRE(almost specifically). I will confidently claim the podcast was waaaay better off on KZbin; aside from fiscal concerns, of course.

[@accidentalpatient4152]

@@rickmann5227 well where's the rest?

[@namier1570]

@@discgolfinrude I think it’s pretty decent!

[@coreybooth5088]

This dude matches the curtains perfectly.

[@thomasblackwell9507]

That is how an intelligence officer works; they blend in the background.

[@shadyganley8877]

I thought he was half invisible

[@MrGrokthis]

Best fucking comment!

[@Allison_Chaynes]

Not perfectly..... technically.

[@larrys9879]

I listened to Lazar’s entire interview. Nobody is that good of a liar. I believe Lazar story. I tend to take government representatives analysis of Lazars story with a large helping of salt. If a government official verified Lazars story they’d be fired and their life destroyed just as they destroyed Lazars life.

[@vinzettoducama7065]

“Hey, there’s a bunch of cool stories about this but we’re not gonna tell you any of them...”

[@valac4447]

Just a bunch of click bait

[@TR13400]

@MMA vs BOXING Man you really linked a book that cost money

[@jasonablah7702]

@MMA vs BOXING No one is going to buy your book of schizophrenic ramblings.

[@BubuH-cq6km]

But in the meantime remember Slick Willie was a "Regular" on "Lolita Express" in meantime remember "Iran China Venezuela " Are the Enemy Yet Look at Military Bases Maps .....Last Time I Checked they called it South China Se NOT South USA or South UK Sea.........

[@WaxPaper]

I'd be willing to bet that guy didn't want cast Lazar in a negative light, considering he was a guest of the show and an acquaintance of Rogan's. He probably just told Joe why he thinks Lazar is lying.

[@Strype13]

Well, there's certainly nothing more riveting for the fans of a show than to keep hearing, "shhh, we shouldn't talk about that. I'll tell you offline." I'm so glad we got to be a part of that.

[@madpriest7822]

Right? WTF so annoying and of course the liar Bob Lazar told Joe "secrets" off air too

[@hrbllc4206]

He went to a bar and overheard that they were working on alien crafts? Cool, thanks for admitting it 😂

[@johncollier7795]

Why was ep #331 removed with Dr. Steven Greer? Can someone please help explain.

[@maluminse1]

Defense department: Never worked there. Defense department: He worked there but he only scanned badges.

[@nielshenrikdavidbohr7947]

Defense department: He worked and do other stuff too, a little.

[@oosa358]

@@nielshenrikdavidbohr7947 just a smidge

[@pedromiguel391]

Yeah they got a guy who mounted a propulsor on a car and made news about it to go to a secret base to scan badges

[@pedromiguel391]

Makes perfect sense

[@julian_arness1320]

Sounds like Callen talking about how he never hung out with D'elia

[@anthonygiambattista6922]

Lets take Bob over there, he's got a complete knowledge of propulsion systems and physics, He'd be perfect for scanning everyones badges. Sounds legit.

[@samerhannah5530]

He was doing the dishes

[@fuckgoogle6047]

Anthony.....good one ! 👍

[@Doug7RM]

Love it

[@schayneryburn5887]

Riiiiiight?!! Lol.

[@joeyjuiice]

Thank you 👏🏼. I believe in being skeptical to an extent but rather how joe explained it, it’s better to be objective instead of just looking for shit to disprove. But that makes zero sense for someone to be hired somewhere that completely tried to wipe out any evidence or info of him working there simply for scanning badges.

[@supabadd1233]

No more off air conversations man!

[@joustingjay]

This intelligence guy said that all Bob did was scan badges. Bob put a jet engine in his Honda. You don't hire a guy like that to scan badges.

[@awarism7020]

The fact that someone would claim to be his boss while they also claim that he didn't work there, just makes bob lazar seem even more authentic. They did this to Lou, they claimed he didn't work there and then suddenly they claimed he did but had less power. If Bob was just the badge guy why didn't they just say he was the badge guy up front, and all of this could have been avoided. Now I believe his story even more. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Jade-jp7ny]

Exactly great point!!!

[@philipkellettaol]

Good point!

[@grimalteruism8641]

and u can look at Bob's face and this cats face which face do you believe

[@1183newman]

Its ridiculous for them to claim a guy like Bob only tested radiation. I mean if you watch his recently leaked video of him discussing and demonstrating his hydrogen powered corvette, he not only built the thing but he also built a particle accelerator in his garden to make Hydride which is an illegal substance to buy but there is a loop hole in that it isnt illegal to make. He fully demonstrates how it all works how he makes hydride and how safe the whole thing is.

[@awarism7020]

@@1183newman yea, the fact that they erased his education makes him appear more authentic as well. He clearly went to the schools he claims he did. And saying he didn't, gives him so much credibility. Theres a lot of things people can BS about. But you cant Lie your way into understanding quantum physics lol.

[@Olole]

Christopher Mellon: "A friend of mine told me..." Joe Rogan: "YOU DARE USE MY OWN SPELL AGAINST ME"

[@anthonysalonek1509]

a friend of mine told me , what a laugh

[@TheDjt1992]

​@@anthonysalonek1509 I feel that's how ALOT of Americans get their "facts" on stuff. Friends and coworkers.

[@mcbeardthebat8589]

@@TheDjt1992 nah 'a friend of mine told me' is American for "I'm about to blindly make some shit up right now and pass it off as a fact" 🤣🤣

[@ArnaldoRiveraAnglero]

first time I have chills of curiosity.

[@Pedigreedotexe]

He really did work there, "allegedly" lmao

[@John-4649]

“Maybe that person’s full of shit. How about that?” Love how Joe isn’t afraid to stand up for others.

[@richie9878]

Cameras go off.. Joe: i just wanted to say you look cute today

[@GranmaSam]

Feeling pretty! Let's have a drink and tell Bob Stories.

[@ibnsina9486]

@Walter White Stop spamming

[@clonetrooper84]

Best comment.

[@battlersbeware7095]

“That sounds right but I couldn’t tell ya” When people go from formal to answering a question w/ an attempt at syllable changes in order to seem relatable & truthful it’s so damn obvious lol

[@TR1P_L3G3ND2]

Lol “I heard there was a bar off base he frequented” sounds like some government BS right there

[@naumpitropcevski4197]

Joe talks to Chris offline. Eddie Bravo: They got Joe

[@itsjacks4992]

SHITTT they got Joe😂

[@vduk]

@Random X what happened to good old edgy brah, is he no more regular on his podcast?

[@mofo264]

“I saw nothing the taxpayers would disagree with” 😂

[@mofo264]

@Do One who the fuck even talks like that. Our government is in much worse shape than we realize. The worst examples of humans are in charge.

[@coryce258]

I disagree with paying taxes

[@mofo264]

@@coryce258 you and me both. Its more like theft under the threat of violence and imprisonment. I get especially chapped when they spend it on crazy shit that directly harms me, my ability to earn a living, my safety, etc. we pick the worst our country has to offer to make rules for us (that they dont have to live under/be a part of)

[@noahninetyone]

What an odd statement tho. It’s mainly the “disagree with” which means he saw some pretty crazy things that he feels he could justify to tax payers.

[@lisashhotwife2732]

It's a cringy lie ha

[@zer0tzer0]

Checking Radiation Badges? That was James Bond's cover in Diamonds Are Forever! Klaus Hergesheimer. I heard that Lazar was led into this by John Lear.

[@jeffgeorge5722]

"He checked radiation on people's badges" 😂ffs...

[@TheMattj88]

So, let’s ask the guy responsible for covering things up what he thinks about the whistleblower. Sounds legit…

[@terror-vk7jx]

the facility needs your id before you can re-enter.

[@Morbid_12]

Bro the fact he's been constantly raided by the feds makes me believe him

[@scottmartinets1000]

it's incredible the guy is still alive. much respect

[@Brahkolee]

He got raided by the feds because he was selling radioactive material all willy-nilly without the proper precautions or licensing lol

[@ahmetakgun5358]

He was jailed for being the leader of a prostitution ring 🤣 do you really believe that pimp?

[@claytonreid996]

@@Brahkolee Lol don't comment such things on JRE unless you want people to go "nah bro, that's just what they said to cover it up" 😂

[@Brahkolee]

@@claytonreid996 I know right? I just want people to understand that there’s no power in believing a guy like Bob Lazar. Conspiracy theories are like intellectual junk food. Tastes great going down, gives you a rush of happy chemicals, but ultimately leaves you lacking. I used to believe Lazar… when I was like 16. But there’s enough information out there to paint a clear picture of what the guy really is. Some dude who had a low level technician’s job at LANL and maybe Area 51, got fired because his personal life made him a security risk, and came up with a wild story to save his dignity.

[@lordrichard64]

The story he told Joe was about how Bob Lazar was a Brothel owner.

[@princesstakaloo]

I really feel this guy was trying to say with the way he answered and his body language and the timed pauses before answering...he was saying believe bob lazar

[@ciandarcy5682]

If I had a dollar for everytime I heard Joe say what's interesting about Bob is that he has told the exact same story since the late 80s, I'd have 18 dollars.

[@NoirTech83]

I don’t think someone telling the same story forever means they must be telling the truth. If I’m going to lie about working on a spaceship, it’s not hard to stick to the same story. It’s not like I’d suddenly forget the plot to a movie I’ve seen a hundred times.

[@josephjones357]

There is video proof of his story changing slightly.

[@gollese]

Why lie about such thing though. I doubt hes looking for thumbs ups

[@N-e-o1]

@@NoirTech83 exactly my thinking. Joes iq level is stunningly low.

[@N-e-o1]

@@josephjones357 give links, not cliffhangers. Or at least give us a clue as what to search for.

[@gasolinewine801]

Los Alamos: He’s the best badge scanner we’ve ever had. Area 51: shit, let’s hire the dude.

[@Heyemeyohsts]

Lol he was the Wyatt Earp of badge scanners

[@thegloomining1955]

you guys do know los alamos would probably lie about the level of his clearance to keep things quiet and under control just as they did and or tried to do with the Nuclear Bomb right? like why would they be like oh bob? yeah he was good at mechanical engineering.

[@publiusventidiusbassus1232]

@John Kennedy Then why did they need to lie about him not working there? Why not just say "nah, he was a low level clerk, here look at the evidence". Once they couldn't deny it they had to move the goalpost. Bob is a shady guy, and he has 100% exaggerated stuff, but the sheer amount of coincidences; all the stuff he said that was proven right and the inconsistencies in his "debunking" really prove the guy knew some deep stuff.

[@jshooper7819]

Makes absolutely no sense. This guy is just trying to discredit Lazar with silly bullshit. Besides the fact that Bob said they had a primitive form of Biometrics back then to serve as your key card. Why would they need an actual person to scan badges? Just dumb disinformation

[@ErikLosLobos]

@@publiusventidiusbassus1232 who says they lied. They wouldn't give a journalist private information. So being a good journalist they turn it into a story. All the information that builds Bobs story comes from 1 or 2 people.

[@MarkusVolcanz]

Laurencium is element 103, not 115, from what I know Bob Lazar was talking about element 115 in 1989 which is called Muscovium, but this element was not discovered officially until 2003, which is crazy when you think about it.

[@rizzywise1336]

That PART!!

[@nedmclovin8095]

Former intelligence secretary of course didn’t see anything suspicious at Area 51

[@ufotv-viral]

🖖👽.

[@Orcawhale1]

Well yeah, because it's military base like any other. Area 51 was established, because the CIA needed a test site for the U-2 spy plane. This site would then be reused for A-12, which evolved into the SR-71. Then in the late 60s, it served as a testbed for recently acquired aircraft from defectors like Munir Redfa(Mig 21). and Viktor Belenko(Mig 25). This squadron was called the Red Hats, and operate still to this day.

[@emodude35]

Replies like this just show how biased and stupid people are. "It's aliens or the government is lying! No room for anything in-between!"

[@Orcawhale1]

@@emodude35 Because there's nothing inbetween, they are both absolutes. What's more, if you know anything about the Fermi paradox, and Kardashev scale. You quickly realize that's its litterally impossible for aliens to be at Area 51.

[@DocOrtmeyer]

There is no "INTELLEGENCE secretary"

[@justinoneill2837]

i can't wait to never hear all these stories offline

[@dreadfuljack2694]

me too bro,im so stoked

[@Baddawg_313]

Yea omg cant wait!!

[@mondachewon2873]

Loooool

[@DaWoundedWarrior]

Exactly..Lol

[@WMsandKFCisBackMOFOs]

Ok. Heres one, did you know that Bob Lazar owned a brothel? That's not a joke. Apparently at a certain point in his life, he got in some financial trouble and started a whore house with a friend. Its was eventually busted by the feds and he was arrested. I believe it took place in late 80's but I might be wrong about that time frame.

[@sarinhighwind]

omg, I shoulda kept listening before my comment. "Bob got all his information from a bar"

[@treljaengo]

So you hire a rocket scientist to check badges? Brilliant!

[@YouRegolo]

4:28 "I've poked a bit into this" sounds a lot like "i've been extensively briefed on how to answer to that"

[@gvl1260]

You can bet your life savings there was intense preparation and briefing before this interview that's for sure. Dude talks about how some people are pathological liars while for these people lying and bullshit spinning is second nature. There are task forces solely focusing on spreading lies and disinformation by these professional bullshit artists through the UFO Community. You don't see the same involvement in the bigfoot community that's for sure, and that alone should be telling. I don't understand man, even if you only pay attention to the things that's been verified by official sources and legitimate individuals you can't deny the fact that's this phenomenon interested the government great freaking much. Just looking into Bob's story, you know, government doesn't erase a man's entire life from birth certificate if he's telling lies for he's own amusement.

[@clipsedrag13]

This man is a born politician. Bob is a man of science and hard work.

[@olas591]

I call it sense of humanity. Worked at a dark government shit and managed himself to get out, SURVIVE and expose the most important truth of human history. Justice.

[@williamstynes5051]

I’m glad you told him what you know

[@mjsox13]

"thats what HE called it" haha he was careful there

[@kslanov]

"Lets tell each other all the cool stories offline" and then Joe is still wondering why is the gov hiding the truth lol

[@stockontruthchannel2631]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ml62ameiotqlpdk

[@TheRastafarianStuff]

rogan been working for the same system hiding stuff lol and posting stuff like this with "experts" shitting on facts

[@jaytheslayer7703]

Secrets within secrets. Even Joe can't tell 😄😄😄😄

[@richfan10]

In it? I love joe but why have a subscription podcast if they are gonna talk off air 😆

[@byrde4329]

Because it's the governments job to tell the truth, not the people. Joe keeping something told to him confidentially by a "friend" or acquaintance isn't wrong. Imagine if he told everyone's secrets, as one of the top podcasters in the world who would want to talk to him? So you can get some dirty little secrets told to him in a private conversation?

[@teremaa91]

“Nothing that a tax payer wouldn’t object to...” What a load of bull

[@futtspoppin6348]

seriously, if he felt the need to say that there's sth wrong

[@shailonnoelle7175]

Lol they're all In on the fact that we are too dumb to decide how to run our country democratically so they run it for us with their secret little secret clubs and their orgy parties and their insider trading

[@socialmediaego]

@@shailonnoelle7175 yup and they subtle tell us… people like this have to answer questions like that or they’ll end up dead…

[@jamesgannon4514]

Am I misunderstanding something? Nothing a tax payer would NOT object to. Vs nothing a tax payer WOULD object to. Can someone help me see the gripe?

[@DannySullivanMusic]

that's right. entirely true!!

[@henrlima87]

Joe's "of course not" when the dude said the taxpayers wouldnt oppose it 😂😂

[@Alreadyup-pr4ty]

This entire show was dedicated to a private discussion. Brilliant! Thanks Joe

[@thelucasstorm]

I love this podcast format where the host and guest allude to all of the interesting things that they will both discuss in private. Riveting.

[@keeflayton4310]

so we never get to hear all the evidence from people not on the podcast...there is obviously more to the story....annoying as fuck

[@lewisjh8962]

It is really stupid because if you tell someone off air, that doesn’t mean they aren’t going to tell everyone else 😂

[@sativarosegold3604]

@@lewisjh8962 exactly. Would an agent sworn to secrecy risk that Rogan has a recording device somewhere or people listening in....secrecy means secrecy period. I think they say shit like this to look cool and he probably said vague shit off air

[@jdiuplz]

@@runningbear6391 didn’t know you were such an authority and expert - please do tell us more of your knowledge and wisdom...

[@fordyce94]

@@runningbear6391 everybody who reads this story knows that element 115 will obviously exist, it comes after 114 and before 116, you're not smarter than everyone who believes the Lazar story just because we happened to name the 115th element we found. What you should consider though is what element 115 would look like in a stable form, because thats the whole point

[@greg_snow2090]

I really respect the way Joe defends Bob

[@d.s.5157]

Unfortunately people like Joe and yourself can be duped with feelings and bullshit. If Lazar was working on *ABOVE* top secret stuff, that could give a country an incredible advantage over it's rivals not to mention change course of human history, he would not have been allowed to talk about it for last 30 years. They'd come up with fake charges and thrown him in jail or killed him off and made it look like an accident. Sure it would catch the news but after months or years it would fade away from public memory.

[@ssherrierable]

By saying maybe he’s full of shit idk? 😂

[@astyanax905]

yeah he's enabling him like a parent with a fat child

[@Turbotony773]

Same here

[@podunkest]

I love how it's saying 5 replies to this comment yet I see only one... =/

[@kravvormagagor9595]

Damn it Joe I want to hear about the terrible experiments

[@Thunderony]

behind the scenes pls :D

[@healthfadsfade]

The fact that the Government deliberately lied about him working at Los Alamos proves his entire story in my book.

[@savedfaves]

I don’t know if it proves his entire story, but if we don’t know by now that powerful people cannot be trusted then we can’t be helped.

[@healthfadsfade]

@Plentus Yes sir. It just looks like they're covering up his entire story.

[@healthfadsfade]

@@savedfaves At least it proves that they're trying to cover up something he is saying. Could be as simple as the logistics at s4 who knows. Not a purely scientific opinion on my part but the gut feeling.

[@chrismellblom7443]

He worked in los alamos, not for los alamos. He worked for Kirk Meyer a sub contracting company as a technician. His name has a KM next to it in the phone book. He is not a physicist.

[@JangoBango18]

The fact he lied about going to MIT solidifies the fact that he lied about the whole thing