What happened to Gin? Gin in Chaos Tama Zoo Chimpanzee 202209

[@るいじんえんスキー]

字幕解説いただいてるのと、他の方々のコメントを拝見しながら自分なりに考えてこういう事何だろう...か？と想像してみましたが、よくわかりませんでした。でも、イブキ君が悩めるジンさんの気持ちを察して寄り添ってるのはわかりました。すごい3歳児。

[@GreatApesZoo]

この日、一番冷静に活躍していたのは、イブキのように見えました。 イブキの成長がますます楽しみになってきました。

[@jimmyjames2903]

Yes he is

[@ヲミイ]

概要欄も含め拝見しました👀 自分なりに色んな角度で考えてみました🤔 それにしても、イブキには良い意味で裏切られました…まだ3歳ですよね？ 凄い観察眼と正義感を持ち、行動できる子なんですね🐵✨ (ハルちゃんと重ねて見ちゃいました) 何度もジンのそばへ行き、落ち着かせようとしたり『ボクは味方だよ』と伝えてるように見えました😢✨ 挨拶スキルの高さは間違いなくモモコさんの影響ですね💡w プックリお尻のチェリーさんをジンが欲したのか、チェリーさんが欲したのか…その状況をボンボンが阻止したかったのか…？ 母と息子 二人三脚で這い上がったαの座、ジンがその座を脅かす存在だと認識し 出る杭を打とうとしたのか…？ 何か掟を破ったジンに対し制裁を与えようとしてるのか…？ 考えれば考える程、混乱します(🌀o🌀) ただ、ボンボンはジンに対して攻撃したそうに見えないんですよね… チェリーさんも、ジンを追い ついてまわってるけど…攻撃態勢には思えず…🤔 いつも冷静に見えてたジンが、あんなに表情崩して怯えてるのは心配になります💦 ジンもボンボンも貫禄あるから大人っぽく見えるけど、二人ともまだ十代ですよね…思春期から大人への階段を上る特有の何かでしょうか🤔 覚醒したサクラちゃんの攻撃パターンが “草むしりして投げる” だったのが、ちょっと可愛く思いました😂 勢いよく挑んで追いかけたものの、足で振り払われ、すぐ退散…本人は真剣でしょうが、やっぱり可愛いです😂 トラブルに首を突っ込むイブキを心配そうに見てるモモコさん、連れ戻したいけど、ボンボンが怖くて近寄れないんですね😅 ディルを抱えるミカンちゃんも、いつも以上に警戒してるのが伝わってきました。 何かあったらディルを抱いて避難しなくてはなりませんもんね。 チェリーさん、モモコさん、ミカンちゃん、この母親たちは それぞれの立場や状況で子供を守ろうとしてるんだなと思いました。 この日、ピーチちゃんとプラムも出てる日だったら どうなってたかな？とも思います。 忖度せず自分を持ってるマリナちゃん、好きです😄 一日中ピリピリして、みんな疲れたでしょうね。 一晩ゆっくり眠って、翌日は楽しく過ごせてると良いなと思います😊 彼らと話しができたら、私のオススメ動画を教えるのに🤣 るいけんさんもこの撮影は、色んな意味でお疲れだったでしょうね。 貴重な動画をありがとうございます🙏✨

[@GreatApesZoo]

ありがとうございます。🙏 至上最長感想文です。😚 ジンが頼ろうとしたのは、賢く穏やかなベリーと孤高の中堅社員のマリナでした。😅 チンパンジーのルールは鉄の掟、と考える長老ペコさんは、当然ながら[法はアルファオス也]、絶対君主ロビンの娘サクラもボンボンこそ絶対君主。 １対８の状況でジンに手を差し伸べたのはイブキ。 多摩ほどメスが多いと、いくらオスが権力を握るチンパンジーとはいえ、集団で襲われればアラシのような状況にもなりかねません。アラシは新人ですけど 円山のアッキーも同じ感じ。 これが毎日続くとボノボに変わって行くのでしょう。（妄想を超えた空想🤣） ピーチは、今や第一位の座より大切なものがあるので予想できます。 プラムを抱いて遠くに逃げる、これに尽きると思います。✨

[@ヲミイ]

@@GreatApesZoo さん 至上最長⁉️ホントですか⁉️💦 今回は短めしたつもりです‼️(ウソです😜w) そう。ピーチちゃんはプラムを連れて避難する…私もそう思います…がっ‼️ そう思ってたイブキが最後までそうではなかったので、プラムだったら この状況をどう見て判断し行動するのかな？と思ったんです😊 ピーチちゃんは力ずくでも連れてくでしょうけど…妄想族の楽しみ、取りあげないでください🙄www もし、自分が、この場に居たメスだったら…なんて考えたんですが…🤔 おそらく、マリナちゃんと並んでウンチおやつにしながら我関せずだったかもしれません😅 女性たちに人気だったアラシさんが、女性たちに追われ…残酷な最期を… ジンに かつての悲劇が 起こりませんように…😢 アラシさんの血を継ぐフブキ、強く逞しく優しく成長して欲しいと願います。 チェリーさんとベリーちゃんは、メロンの妹だったり…ボンボンはイチゴとハローの従兄弟だな、とか…色んな気持ちを交差させながら拝見してしまいます…多摩は。 ジンの今後…もう何事も無かったかのように戻っててほしいです。心配です…。 今回のMVPイブキには、欲しいものなんでもプレゼントしてあげたくなりました🐵✨

[@GreatApesZoo]

@@ヲミイ それは失礼しました。😅 フブキは、当面ジンの下、最下位の大人オスとしての地位で修行が続くでしょうね。😏

[@ヲミイ]

@@GreatApesZoo さん るいけんさんは、その後の様子をきっともう ご存知ですよね？🙃 楽しみにしています😄 そしてこの瞬間も、どこかのコと会ってらっしゃる⁉️ 残暑もありますが、お気をつけて😊

[@GreatApesZoo]

@@ヲミイ ありがとうございます。 その後は、多摩に行っていないので私もわかりません。どこどきですね。 デッキーチーム、ディル、サクラたちで楽しんでください。😚 もち、イブキもいるでよ～!

[@中田圭子-j5s]

ジンは体も大きいし、女性陣にも人気があるように見えます。ボンボンは早めにジンの台頭を阻止しようとプレッシャーをかけている。。。と私は思ったけど。違いますよね。イブキは、ほんとえらかったですね。こういう不穏な空気でも、多摩なら離れたり、隠れたりできるからいいですね。

[@GreatApesZoo]

イブキ、偉いですね。 一日こんな感じでした。一触即発、サクラは、耐えられなかったみたいですね。

[@melissasaldiveri2555]

Today, on Days of Tama Chimps Lives: Cherry wants a little something and Gin turns her down (out of self preservation). Now Cherry, as a woman scorned, wants revenge. Will Bon Bon and the gang get him or will our hero stay one foot ahead of the angry mob?

[@gregbirkline2533]

🤣🤣🤣best comment yet

[@melissasaldiveri2555]

@@gregbirkline2533 Thank you, kind sir 🥰

[@troycote4503]

​@@gregbirkline2533so true

[@345soha8]

ジンは思春期を終えて 青年期に入ったので 悩むこと多いでしょうね～ 誰にもわからない ジンの心。。。

[@GreatApesZoo]

正確なジンのココロのうちは、誰にもわかりませんね。

[@345soha8]

@@GreatApesZoo イブキは、予感しているのかも?次男次女は適応能力に 優れているような気がします。

[@GreatApesZoo]

@@345soha8 私もイブキが最も社会性の高いチンパンジーだと思います。

[@Quokka838]

Poor Gin😪 When Cherry is in heat with BB around, Gin always has troubles. I bet no one would like to be in his shoes.

[@sharonb.9128]

Great video. Gin is wise. That missing canine tooth of Gin’s might cost him dearly in a fight with Bonbon. He will need all of his physical prowess to defeat him. The video with him poking at the tooth and it swinging out completely sideways was crazy! I wonder if it came out at the root or still has a piece embedded?

[@GreatApesZoo]

Thanks for watching.

[@avrilmcclure4600]

It was so sad seeing Gin like this today,Bonbon leave Gin alone.Sending Gin a big hug like little Ibuki gave him,such a loving Chimp is Ibuki.The whole of Momoko family are such caring chimps

[@ellenknell9645]

Wow, I usually dont watch the chimps, but this one popped up and I actually got into it. I went for the whole feast. 1 hour and 1 minutes. Excellent video. I should watch more then the gorillas since I love all primates

[@seankelly69]

haha i found this channel by mistake several weeks ago - now i cant stop watching all the vids. have noticed however that im now using my finger knuckles to support me when i stand at desks now though - maybe need a break ;)

[@ellenknell9645]

@@seankelly69 😂

[@gregbirkline2533]

I don’t think the zookeepers should let Gin out with Bonbons group if Cherry is in estrus. Not only does that put Gin through hell but it’s possible a big fight could happen between the males. I honestly think the zoo should move Cherry to Max group full time and let Bonbon be alpha without his mommy. It’s not fair how she bullies others and takes people food (only when she’s out with Bonbon) doesn’t pull that crap in Max group. Make it fair for all the Chimps or merge everyone together and let the chimpanzees work it out like they would in the wild

[@theodoredsmithjr.871]

Baby Dill is so damn cute! He looks EXACTLY like his father Decky! Spitting Image! He hangs on so very tight when he hears the commotion start; he knows he's in for a wild ride! It amazes me when I see infant chimps hanging on for dear life as their mothers run, climb and even fight at very fast speeds and perform daring jumps, turns and rolls all while the infant hangs on for the ride! 🙂 I really have no idea WHY Gin is waiting; must be because he's a Peaceful easy going Chimp, and just hasn't made up his mind yet; but GIN should kick the shit outta Bonbon! I've been saying it for almost a year now that Gin will be ALPHA MALE! Forget about the Breeding factor, Bonbon doesn't mate either. It's plain to see that Gin is bigger and stronger and even faster than Bonbon! Gin is not completely full grown yet either. He still has a lil growing left to do, and will even bulk up bigger than he is already! He's HUGE NOW, and FAST as greased lightning! full He's very, very strong! He hardly ever fully goes 100% erect and flexed in a full blown display of his power! He is also a Very Smart chimp! Contemplates every action before he does it seems when it involves politics in the group.Him and Bonbon are great friends, and I think that''s the real reason that Gin hasn't confronted Bonbon as of yet. Especially while Cherry is always there with Bonbon. Did you see that his Display was targeted at Gin mother and lil brother? It seems that Gin is really getting sick of Cherry's bullshit! He seems very concerned and stressed out lately over this, and I think things are coming to a head and reaching the boiling point! Gin knows that he'll be forced to fight Bonbon if he thrashes Cherry! But I honestly see it happening in the very near future! This is my opinion, and I know others disagree and think it'll only happen when Bonbon gets older. ONLY time will tell! But I think we won't have to wait very much longer to see it happen! 🙂 I think that the entire group has more respect and love, both young and old for Gin than they do for Bonbon. food is being tossed Gin NEVER grabs it away from the females and infants. He simply waits. Even though its his right to do so. I see him sharing at times and even giving some of his food to the youngsters.Not so with Bonbon. Did you see the way he cradled and helped lil Ibuki down when he came to greet him? Never happens with Bonbon. Everyone in the group sees this.While Bonbon rules by fear and intimidation! Gin will rule with Love and Affection and only get nasty to protect when needed or if someone does something very offensive and totally outta line in chimp life. I think the entire group and all of us viewers are in for an Awesome display of what a Male Chimp is capable of when Gin gets seriously pissed off and has had enough! I just hope no one gets hurt or killed because I dearly love each and every chimp in the group. I think Cherry knows all this as well as I do. Notice how she's tracking everything Gin does. She encourages Bonbon to act up around Gin as a result of her to knowing the future. But it's Bonbon who's gonna have to Pay the Bill when Gin SNAPS! I also feel that captive zoo life somewhat alters the chimps in ways. This would have been settled a long time ago in the wild! It would be done with and forgotten about already! 🙂 I KNOW I SAW that when Cherry and her recruited posse at 26:45 acted as though they were going after GIN, and Cherry was even pointing at Gin screaming "there he is, get him" that NOT 1 single chimp, including Bonbon got near Gin! His facial expression says it all! He knows whats going on and whats going to happen! Bonbon did a half hearten display to appease his Mommy because Bonbon wants NO PART of GIN in an actual Mortal Combat situation! If it comes down to self preservation, I think Gin will DESTROY HIM! 🙂 Cherry seems to be very stiff and moving slow today; you sure Gin and her didn't have a confrontation inside? Gin might of put her in her place! 🙂 Gin doesn't WANT a snack. Bonbon CAN'T get one from the staff. I think the inside staff KNOW something that we don't!

[@troycote4503]

Cherry will be gone in a couple days and then I think Bonbon and Gin will get along much better. Gin is one of my favorite chimps but he's afraid of Bonbon. I don't see anyone pushing Bonbon from the Alpha position. Bonbons come a long way in the last few years. I've seen Gin put Cherry in her place when she goes out without Bonbon. He is a very smart chimp and was raised by humans, where Bonbon learned from Cherry. Seeing Sakura hang out with Cherry is shocking also. Decky taught Gin how to be a good chimp.

[@Quokka838]

@@troycote4503 don't forget wonderful Sazae, Gin's foster mother. She came from the wild with great skills that chimps raised in captivity don't have. She was a cute, small, intelligent sweet chimp. ❤❤❤

[@troycote4503]

@@Quokka838 I heard about her but she was a little before my time. I heard the group isolated her.

[@Quokka838]

@@troycote4503 Isolated? Well, I don't know if it's correct, however her rank was low but she had great dignity, I mean not much a "cozy up" girl. If you're interested you can watch the old videos of caramelribbon3 starting from 2013 until 2017 (year of her death). So you can have a personal opinion. There was another nice channel but now I don’t remember the name, you know... I'm getting old....😊

[@jimmyjames2903]

😅 you wrote a book 📖 Bro

[@seankelly69]

A hard day at the office for Gin. Cherry knows fine well what she is doing, and its not got too much to do with reproduction. She’s force marching both Gin and bonbon. Makes Gin look weaker, gives him worries and Bon Bon looks stronger as alpha under her direction. Bon Bon’s displays are looking far more impressive these days he is an impressive male. It’s a fairly dangerous situation for gin, as much as he is liked you saw the females chasing him with Bon Bon, and gin didn’t have any backup apart from ibuki, who is a very socially aware young chimp. Does anyone know how Gin lost his top left canine tooth?

[@patrickflug4605]

I believe the theory is he broke it biting down on a nut. It took a long time for the tooth to fall out. Gin was miserable. Hard to watch him go through that. An important defense weapon missing now.

[@theodoredsmithjr.871]

I haven't heard about his tooth missing by anyone. The way Cherry and him came out and what took place with Cherry trying to get the group to go after Gin, and the was Cherry is moving awfully slow and looks to be very sore today; I think Gin and her got into it and that's what happened to his tooth and why shes walking and moving like a 100 year old chimp today!

[@patrickflug4605]

@@theodoredsmithjr.871 yeah the canine has been missing for awhile. There are lots of videos on other channels. Nobody has a definite reason why. The last documented video with both canines showed Gin swinging in the private enclosure. The next video showed it broken and hanging. They opted not to risk putting him under for surgery. Waited for it to fall-out naturally. Sucked watching him go through it.

[@theodoredsmithjr.871]

@@patrickflug4605 Thank You 🙂

[@seankelly69]

@@patrickflug4605 poor guy. i havent seen that vid. thank you for explaining what happened to it :)

[@everythingsbakery8146]

Baby dill had and still has the most gorgeous ❤eyes, they draw you in. Love little Dill

[@Ivan-oi8un]

Is Dills birthday in a few days? Can't believe he's gonna be 2 already. Also this is an older video. I saw Peko is 63 years old. Is she still living? Also when is the zoo going to take Sakura off her BC and let her have a little one of her own, might make her grow up lol lol😂😂😂

[@GreatApesZoo]

Peko is doing well.

[@chakamz9809]

54:38 にモモコさんがロープでジンのそばを上っていったのは，ボンボンとの関係修復を促しに行ったのではないかと思います．モモコさんは下位の立場なのでボンボンやジンから暴力を受けたとき，自分が悪くなくても自分から頭を下げにいくのです．サクラもジンに，なんで謝りにいかないのよ！という意味かもしれない．モモコさんやサクラからはチンパンジー社会の生き方を知ることが多いです．（上下関係の理不尽が見ててとてもつらくなったりしますが） ディルくんデビューからまた全体の空気が変わった気がします．ジンは年齢的に不服従な気持ちがめばえてきたかもしれない．マックスと遊んでいたモモコをジンが襲った動画（8/11）を見ましたがとってもこわかったです．当分ハラハラしそうです． イブキ🐵💕は群れのリーダーに適任👍

[@GreatApesZoo]

ジンがボンボンに頭を下げていれば、終わっていたのでしょうね。 イブキは、ジンがお気に入りですね。 チンパンジーのオスは３０歳過ぎてから本領を発揮するという人もいます。 どうなっていくのでしょう。

[@chakamz9809]

@@GreatApesZoo ボンボンが変わっていくのかそのままなのか，そのままだったらみんながそれを受け入れ続けられるのか…とか，チームのリーダーについて考えてしまいます．確か淡路島の猿たちのボスは，弱者を思いやるタイプが選ばれてきたようだし，群れのものたちが選べないこともない．ズーラシアのカズヤとタマエは，自分たちだけよければいいというのでなくまわりが元気にしてるか気にするタイプですよね． イブキの１番の見本はジン．それに，イブキは癇癪起こしたサクラをひとりで慰めにいった素晴らしい行動力✨フブキもイブキも自分の意思で動けるように育てたモモコさんも素晴らしいです．

[@GreatApesZoo]

イブキがどんな大人になるか楽しみです。

[@patrickflug4605]

Gin is smarter. He will run today but remember tomorrow. Gin gets to come outside everyday and has the ability to discipline all of the females who did not support him. I would be gunning for Cherry first.

[@monkeytimestamps4915]

41:21 IS THAT A SPIDER OR MORE THAN ONE SPIDER?! Shouldn't the chimps be making an alarm call for a spider that is the same size as a pineapple?

[@Ivan-oi8un]

I heard that when chimps make that smiley face, it means that they are scared. Is that true? Then why is Ibuki Smiling like that when he says hi to Gin at 3:03?

[@PSandmore16]

It's always the same. If Cherry is in estrus, and she is out with Gin, she follows him and wants to mate. Bonbon as the alpha and Cherrys son does not approve and he will go full berserk mode if Gin trys to mate. So poor Gin tries to escape from Cherry, but that's not as easy as it sounds.

[@troycote4503]

Nailed it!

[@AzNativezw1]

I’m surprise the chimps are not eating the fungi on those tree logs hanging by chains. There like a bright red or orange and they are covering those logs. Does anybody know what species that is or if it is even edible? 50:58 56:30

[@aravel13]

omg Sakura blew the fuse again,and ofcourse she made a $hit show in there,giving golden showers too lmao😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@theodoredsmithjr.871]

Good thing Fubuki wasn't out today. That could have added a whole new twist to whats going on here! 🙂

[@badmonkey2222]

Too many adds!!

[@non_serviam]

Does Bonbon discipline Gin for trying to mate with anyone, or is it just Cherry? I know most alphas are strict about mating rights, which usually aren't allowed for younger males, and those who are lower on the totem pole. I've only been following the Tama chimps for about a year now, and haven't seen this behavior from him yet until now.

[@tek5692]

I wish they would keep BonBon inside when Hook Butt (aka Cherry) is in estrus.

[@badmonkey2222]

It's amazing some chimpanzees are disgusted by poop and others will poop right in their hand and eat it with a look of satisfaction. 🐵💩

[@tamcole1203]

I HATE how Cherry seemed to be starting trouble between Bon and Gin! She would not leave him alone and I wanted to slap her. But bless Ibuki for being such a good friend.

[@debracalabrese5737]

Seems my nickname for Cherry (hook butt) is making the rounds on KZbin 😂

[@troycote4503]

I like Gin. He's awesome but not Alpha male material.

[@ironhead3903]

What happened to max I thought he was the alpha male. So is bon bon the alpha male now? Where is Fubuki and deckie ?

[@GreatApesZoo]

Bonbon is an alpha male. Gin is the only one that can belong to both Bonbon's Troop and Max's Troop.

[@ironhead3903]

@@GreatApesZoo seems to me Max's troop are the same chimps as in bonbons troop?

[@GreatApesZoo]

They care more about Bonbon than Max.