What Happened To Mono Quantum? - Honkai Star Rail

In this video I will talk about the reality of mono quantum, including topics such as how it first started, its downfall and much more explained in this one video! #honkaistarrail #honkai
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Timestamps:
0:26 - The Beginning
3:01 - The Rise Of Mono Quantum
4:20 - The Downfall Of Mono Quantum
6:10 - The Current State Of Mono Quantum
7:05 - The Future Of Mono Quantum
7:58 - Overall Thoughts

[@FaleTale]

Do you think mono quantum will ever make a return?

[@yngluckdevil]

Yes, my life at HSR comes down to the quantum. I currently reach numbers of 400k without Seele's cone, it may take a while, but one day there will be a really strong quantum DPS. On that day my team will already be closed with all the eidolons at my disposal 🍷

[@FaleTale]

@@yngluckdevil That’s great that some still use Seele, resurgence is what makes Seele fun to run, as well with constantly hearing “butterflies” the time will come where we will get that needed unit!

[@nishikazudagamer5981]

me watching this, still using Qingque, Sparkle, Silver Wolf, and Fu Xuan, and not looking forward to a new quantum dps because I will never replace Qingque, unless she gets a five-star version. It'll be great if mono-quantum makes a return, but I could never tell because I always use this team alongside Firefly's.

[@FaleTale]

@@nishikazudagamer5981 I feel like it will come eventually, the question is when, and especially if they’ll be decent compared to the dps/meta at the time, QQ is always a fun unit to use though 🙂

[@inapostle8th]

This honestly, I don't understand why people think just because something is less broken it means it's not viable. Who cares about Cycle 0/1 as long as you can clear the content ?

[@FaleTale]

@@inapostle8th 100%, the main reason i guess is ease of build, and power. Which the majority of new units are built for that moc specifically granting specific buffs, whereas them older units don’t have that buff. As long as you can clear the majority of content you’re fine, even older limited dps units are still fine, like blade, jingliu, and other units. The only benefit to 0 cycle is satisfaction.

[@inapostle8th]

@@FaleTale I do understand that, my FF can 0 cycle pretty much everything that cross her path, it's fun, but honestly, It feels better to use my gacha gremlin to nuke everything by throwing tiles with a smart set-up than to just click Ult + spam skill with FF, it feels more deserved you know ?

[@FaleTale]

@@inapostle8th 100% agree with you, it’s more satisfying using characters who are considered “weak” or underrated to clear compared to “click e and win”, it’s more of an accomplishment.

[@bewitted1169]

mono quantum was good during fu xuans release back 1.0 era. Now its pretty mid due to hp inflation and no other new quantum hypercarry units. DoT suffered the same fate, but worse since it died after one patch which was during black swan's release.

[@FaleTale]

@@bewitted1169 I agree with you, both them factors hugely effected the current state of mono quantum, personally though I feel like dot isn’t in as bad of a state as mono quantum is, characters like Kafka, black swan and Acheron make dots actually somewhat useful, compared to mono quantum who rely on weaker dps units

[@bewitted1169]

@@FaleTaleAcheron indeed made dot better, but thats because its acheron lol, whereas mono quantum team still mainly uses a 1.0 dps (seele or qingque). Now that jiaoqiu released, people moved on from dotacheron so dot is back to being mid without acheron.

[@julesandrewsusvilla4657]

Once our lord and savior Sunday's banner releases, he will resurrect the hypercarry teams. I don't think powercrept or dead is the right word but not "in the meta" for the moment. For later patches break team and FUA are the best but time will come for hypercarry and DOT team to be back in the mix.

[@julesandrewsusvilla4657]

Once our lord and savior Sunday's banner releases, he will resurrect the hypercarry teams. I don't think powercrept or dead is the right word but not "in the meta" for the moment. For later patches break team and FUA are the best but time will come for hypercarry and DOT team to be back in the mix.

[@FaleTale]

@@julesandrewsusvilla4657 Honestly this is probably true, metas change all the time, all it takes is one character.

[@jacoblee4709]

Honestly, calling Silver Wolf a strong debuffer is a stretch. She's a ST debuffer who needs to use SP to Implant her Weakness, and can't keep up with Seele's Resurgence without massive SP cost for her team. Even under the optimal circumstances, unless the enemy has like 40 Quantum Res, Silver Wolf straight up gets outclassed by Robin. The top Seele teams all use Robin, heck, the Gallagher-Bronya-Robin-Seele core has been proven to 40k this Pure Fiction. Sometimes even Pela is better due to her AoE Def reduction that can be applied from Turn 1, and now that Jiaoqiu is here you can even use him for truly permanent debuff application. Silver Wolf is the whole reason Mono Quantum exists, and yet she is ironically its biggest dead weight. Coming from someone who has E2 S1 and recently achieved a hypercarry 0 cycle with her, I don't see how she thrives unless Hoyo specifically caters the new Quantum DPS to her.

[@FaleTale]

@@jacoblee4709 the reason she’s strong is only for single target, specifically bosses, aoe wise there’s way way better choices, like you said characters like Pela and Jiaoqiu provide way more value. In which nowadays we have stronger buffers to use in place of her until that right unit arrives. Hopefully at some point soon

[@jacoblee4709]

@@FaleTale For sure, hoping fr. We'd need a new Quantum unit that can thrive in pure ST for Silver Wolf to be relevant again, and due to how Resurgence works, Seele isn't that DPS

[@FaleTale]

@@jacoblee4709 100% agree with you there, that would make sw actually worth

[@jonathanaguirre2754]

I always love the way you talk about the meta's history :D I've never had a quantum team but I love it because of the characters and it's gameplay! 😊❤️ And thanks for the video!🤗👍

[@FaleTale]

@@jonathanaguirre2754 Thank you for the kind words as usual! And no problem, I should’ve done this video before but felt like the right time now as 2.6 is close 🙂

[@oyfum2638]

It was always a bad team with decent synergy between mid characters. This team needed E2 sparkle to be on par with any Seele team with E0 Robin.

[@FaleTale]

Up until 2.1 is was a decent choice, but when robin was released, as well with better dps choices, it pretty much lost its use as a team, now them characters are way better off in other teams.

[@juniorraya1023]

Tbh Monoquantum works in MoC with 3-4 cycles avg and AS 1650-1700 which is more than enough for 3* On PF i would not use that team,since Seelee needs speed and actions, so wind set with robin/hanabi and tyng is her best team Also Seele so far is inmune to powercreep, shes the only unit that has been doing 0 cycles since day 1 in MoC, she does really god in AS and in PF 40k with her is easy too

[@FaleTale]

@@juniorraya1023 For most cases she’s honestly still great, the main issue is most use the top dps units, and compare Seele to that, dps wise there is obviously a big difference, however seele with resurgence is still op when used to it’s full potential

[@meowk123]

Sw was busted until they nerf her to oblivion during beta

[@FaleTale]

@@meowk123 How times change, now she’s practically unheard of…

[@vazinaypeter]

The core unit of the team is also the weakest part of it so its not surviving. sw is pretty weak so this team isnt gonna return unless we get a dps that needs 3 quantum teammates

[@FaleTale]

@@vazinaypeter The only use for her is for implementing that quantum weakness + lots of other debuffs, it can be great for a new mono dps if they can take advantage of it more compared to seele.

[@peachy_cat]

Interesting topic but this video almost put me to sleep... Try shifting the tone of your voice a bit more, maybe add some background music

[@FaleTale]

@@peachy_cat interesting suggestion, I tried this before and didn’t hear much about it, perhaps il try this again in the future, thanks for your thoughts 🙂

[@jonathanaguirre2754]

@@FaleTale I don't dislike your voice. Don't feel pressured to change your voice if you don't want to, there's no reason to do it if you don't see it as necessary. unless you see it useful ;)

[@FaleTale]

@@jonathanaguirre2754 I wouldn’t change anything from that, the main change would be some background music for either guides or the history in hsr (the longer videos usually)🙂

[@daviddo6974]

the team has always been mid, its only catch is the word mono and all the Genshin players coping hard cus le single element so good xd. Its just lazy team building so it deserve to fall even further. It has never "break the game" bro is coping hard

[@FaleTale]

This breaking the game only referenced early on with silver wolf, as mentioned in the video, it was viable for most up until robin came out who was practically way better in support capabilities than sparkle in most teams.