I hope you all enjoy today's video! Been a while since I played an old cod game and thought I would go back and play black ops 1 and also discuss why we haven't seen anything regarding old call of duty games appearing on the game pass! Let me know your thoughts and opinions down below!
@Jebbydafry4 күн бұрын
I heard they have till wait till actvision deal with PlayStation to be over first
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
@Jebbydafry heard this too but surely mw3 and bo6 wouldn't be on the game pass yet if it was?
@swifty1212 күн бұрын
Black Ops is hands down the best call of duty ever made
@mrcaboosevg60894 күн бұрын
They'd have to fix them all, they're literally all security risks on PC and Console. Every single one of them is going to need a patch to fix the numerous risks and cheats
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
@mrcaboosevg6089 yes and is a big PR blunder in the making if they don't so I think the reality is they might not put these on game pass as it will require a lot of work to fix these games and could also hurt future sales.
@wingomadeit4 күн бұрын
they could separate the servers, like new gen servers/old gen servers
@derricksorrell1823 күн бұрын
They are not a security risk on console lol the worst that will happen is you getting booted offline 😂
@Eimmij3 күн бұрын
@@derricksorrell182nopee. You know there’s some dumb kid out there that’ll give up their account for *mods*
@mlgxxx8084 күн бұрын
Cheaters and hackers will lose multiplayer privileges
@Nitroh-4 күн бұрын
Definitely the 2 main reasons is cause it would take away from current Cods, and also cause of hackers. The old games are too far gone, if Microsoft couldn't stop JTAGs in 2010, what makes you think they could in 2024? If they implement a new system update on the 360 to try stop RGHs, it won't take long for it to be bypassed, won't do much good. Theoretically the most they could do is manually wipe infected theatre clips from Bo2, but the other games are honestly beyond saving at this point. Microsoft need to make a Halo MCC version for Cod, that is really the only way to save/preserve these games tbh.
@Altered.Frequency4 күн бұрын
Yeah, at this point it is impossible to make the Xbox 360 secure, it has been hacked too deeply plus Microsoft wouldnt waste resources on a 20 years old console that doesnt make any profit, especially after the stores were shut down. I see only 2 realistic options to revive old CODs which would fix the cheater issue. First one is to introduce a game patch that explicitly separates Xbox 360 players from Xbox One and Xbox Series players. (Xbox One and Xbox Series players would be in one pool together and Xbox 360 players in a separate matchmaking pool). The other option is if the online functionality of Xbox 360 gets shut down entirely. Then players would have to move to Xbox One or Xbox Series and afaik those systems are secure and there is no jailbreak for them. Which means that people couldnt hack in COD games anymore. And I dont rule out the option of complete shutdown of online functionality on Xbox 360, it happened for the original Xbox (classic) as well and 20+ years after release of the console, nobody should expect online support from the company that released the product.
@Nitroh-4 күн бұрын
@@Altered.Frequency I can get behind this. I don't own an XB1 anymore but would get another one if this could be a reality, or better yet if they just made a Cod version of Halo MCC, that way PC and Playstation can get it too with crossplay, since Steam has major RCE exploits that is just as unfixable as the console issues. I fully anticipate XBL for 360 getting completely shut down within the next 5 years, with the store already gone Microsoft really don't need to keep 360 running, the only reason they do is cause backwards compatible games run from 360 servers since it's emulated on the other Xboxs. If dropping 360 is going to happen and Microsoft does want these old Cods or just any backwards compatible multiplayer game to survive they need to be ported natively to the newer platforms, cause you can't play Cod on Xb1/SX without the 360 being online unless games get ported. Like recently R* ported RDR 1 to Playstation and Switch, Cod could do the same thing, don't change the game, just copy paste and re release.
@Altered.Frequency4 күн бұрын
@@Nitroh- ofcourse native ports of older CODs onto newer gen consoles (Xbox One/PS4 and Xbox Series/PS5) would be an option, however we all know that current day Activision wouldnt let those games 1:1 untouched as they were back in the day. There would be massive censorship on games like World at War and besides that they would add microtransactions, new skins and weapons to classic games like BO1, MW2 etc. Also they would implement SBMM for those older games. All of the aforementioned things is a nogo in my book, the og cod fans dont want to see any of that crap added to older classic cods. I dont want to see characters with pink anime outfits and rainbow unicorn guns in Black Ops 1. I agree that in the next 5 years XBL will most likely be shut down on 360. But that, in theory, should not be an issue though, cause Microsoft could kinda migrate 360 XBL functionality over to Xbox One and Series plattform. At least for the franchises that they own, like gears, halo and cod. For those franchises they would probably leave the online multiplayer functionality active in the background (even with XBL on 360 being shut down), but only on Xbox One and Series S/X. Honestly, the 360 needs to be disconnected from XBL that is the only way to experience the older cods without cheaters and hackers. There are a few ingame exploits in some COD games like the theatre mode exploit, but those can be fixed easily with a patch for those games. The biggest issue with the 360 is that there are stealth servers, that effectively hide jailbroken consoles from being detected online and because of that trash individuals can cheat in every single 360 game online without being banned. So yeah, XBL needs to be turned off on 360 and everyone will be forced to buy a used Xbox One or Series S/X and then the cheater problem would be solved all by itself in those older Xbox 360 online games. Thats the only realistic way things with cheaters would ever improve in those older COD games, Xbox 360 needs to have its online functionality completely shut down and people would have to move to Xbox One or Series S/X. In that case I would also buy a Series X console.
@CDogbruv4 күн бұрын
@@Altered.Frequency yet it nerds xbox 360 servers to run the games, also they need fixing on steam also on ps3 there just fine even tho a ps3 is heavily jailbroken its rare to see them on cod on ps3, + as no backwards compatability for them from ps3 does make the ps3 ideal for cod these days 🙂
@Altered.Frequency3 күн бұрын
@@CDogbruv I recently purchased a ps3 in hopes that in older cods there are less cheaters. Can you confirm that there are still enough players in older cods on ps3 and less people who use cheats? are you in europe mate if I may ask? I hope that there is some playerbase left in older cods on ps3 and not too many hackers mate. Another positive side of the ps3 is that you dont need PSN plus subscription to play online, unlike xbox 360 and newer consoles. A used ps3 can be bought for like 35-40 euros (the old phat ones), if you play more than 1 year online, it ends up costing basically nothing compared to xbox 360, which requires 45-50 euros for XBL Gold per year plus the initial price of a used 360, but they are really dirt cheap so it doesnt matter that much though.
@HoxMeister4 күн бұрын
i was looking forward to the old cods coming to game pass so much because me and my brother and cousins wanted to play all the old MP and zombies but it just costs too much with the DLCs. Such a shame.
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
@HoxMeister hopefully if they ever did the dlcs would be free the cod 4 dlc maps are free so it is possible but I do doubt it because I think activision knows if they did put bo1 and bo2 on game pass some people would probably pay for the dlc for those games even with how old those games are.
@HoorNon-dr2ii4 күн бұрын
I think it's crazy how you guys make up things in your head like it's been officially announced then get disappointed at the voices in your head 😂
@Python09044 күн бұрын
We'll most likely see more cods next year, When xbox bought Bethesda it took at least a year before Bethesda games got on gamepass
@santiagogarciamata13514 күн бұрын
I start my CoD journey back in 2007 saludos mate XD
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
Started in 2010 for me 😅
@HoorNon-dr2ii4 күн бұрын
Wow you guys are so cool..wow
@thebodykeepsthescore28284 күн бұрын
@HoorNon-dr2ii Cooler than you, it would seem. Envy is not an admirable trait😂
@cmemix14 күн бұрын
Yeah I miss these games once in a while I’ll get on but to much hackers
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
Exaxtly what happened in this video first game I was enjoying it next game find a hacker only 2 games in. Would love for them to be on game pass to revive the playerbase but microsoft/activision need to deal with the hacker issues otherwise there is no point having them on game pass 😬
@cshark2733 күн бұрын
Screw all the new COD’s to this day I still play the old COD’s. Especially the zombies. BO1 & BO2 zombies are GOATED.
@LegoFerrari3 күн бұрын
I only play the numerous bot mods for these old cods it really recreates the fun from that time.
@RSkrub4 күн бұрын
Considering these games are peer to peer servers it may not happen. Peer to peer servers are pretty big security risk leads to things like ratting, and other forms of getting info on people. The new games are not peer to peer
@makeshift10123 күн бұрын
Certainly would help out with the player numbers of these games, considering I like to go back and play them myself
@vihaan46624 күн бұрын
If they do not want to add them on gamepass atleast lower the prices like cod 1 is still going for 20 usd in sale like that game was released in 2003
@Mark-MTZ3 күн бұрын
I played BO1 on game pass a month ago, it was a blast
@travit6663 күн бұрын
3:26 I'm also going to assume that they're trying to figure out what they can do about things like plutonium or IW4X I would assume they'd want to get rid of that as they did with the one mod that was supposed to come out that would remaster modern warfare 2
@ArkiSouls2 күн бұрын
They would loose so much player retention and they'd have to fix so many bugs and exploits I doubt it would ever happen. Intentional neglect.
@J-Dito3 күн бұрын
Search and Destroy won't load for me, keeps putting me in domination instead 🤦🏻♀️
@TheDoats3 күн бұрын
I always encounter invisible people on BO1
@spadesofpaintstudios17194 күн бұрын
People saying old cod would take away from the new are nothing but blind, look how many sales they make in new cod alone
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
Counter argument to this is everything we seen with the h2m mod and activisions response to that. So there is an argument to say old cod games on game pass could have the same effect and maybe that is why they aren't on the game pass currently. There is also the argument these games aren't safe either which is also very true and need a massive fix for them to be put on game pass.
@spadesofpaintstudios17193 күн бұрын
@@TazXGold This is true although with a company like activision being that big and releasing a game every year, you’d think something like this wouldn’t cause that much of an issue right ? People are still buying their game even if it’s old but ig they aren’t going to be making as much money from the old, them being unsafe is a major issue though and they haven’t been able to or haven’t bothered to fix them In years
@tripps_on_knives4 күн бұрын
Brah the old cods making their way to gamepass was never a reality. Microsoft and Activision have both given up on those games. they are filled with hackers. Activision doesnt want you reliving past glory days, they want you buying into their new season pass.
@EricSanchez-ds3yu4 күн бұрын
Call of duty is a predatory billion dollar company why would they bring old games back their job is making money on new cod games
@Inscryption93 күн бұрын
What’s crazy is Mfs don’t get anything from cheating on these older cod games like how bored are you 😂
@TazXGold3 күн бұрын
Yeah I really don't understand it when I do go back and play these games why people cheat on them there is hardly anyone to cheat against anyway and what does it actually accomplish I have no idea very weird behaviour 😅
@Iamsamg9113 күн бұрын
Black Ops III is 9 years old :o
@TazXGold3 күн бұрын
Well that's me officially feeling old then only feels like 6 years ago 🤯😅
@Macho_Man_Randy_Savage4 күн бұрын
nostalgia is a hell of a drug...these games are cool to jump into but you quickly realize the issues they had and the frustrations...the hackers are an issue too. it's too bad we'll never get a remaster of like mw2/bo1 but it's too far gone at this point we just gotta move on.
@toomuchstarbucks67874 күн бұрын
Haven't finished the video yet but why would Acti/Microsoft want people on the old games. All the MTX/valuable statistics are in the current games and the people who'd be interested in playing the old games are people who already have the old games bought.
@sesuneiro4 күн бұрын
these damn cheaters ruin these gems man, wish we could get a way to only play these games thru xbox one- series x|s and remove 360 from matchmaking. i hate for that to happen but that would help with the cheating issues on these games
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
I can't imagine there are many playing through the 360 anymore to be honest the longer time goes on the less there will be because I wonder how many still have a working 360 😅
@Nitroh-4 күн бұрын
They would need a native port to current gen, since backwards compatibility is emulation it has to be a re release to take 360 out of the equation. Also, even if they could just port them to new servers on the existing versions, it won't stop cheats like the guy in this Firing Range game had, double health/god mode classes can be used on normal 360, xbox one and series x, someone with a modded 360 just needs to put them on your account, I bought them off a friend in 2015 lol, I don't use them ofc but have done in the past. Same with Bo2 theatre infections, can use them on any console.
@Nitroh-4 күн бұрын
@@TazXGold I have 2 360s and they both work flawlessly. I sold my Xb1 to get a PS4 in 2016, anytime I play these old Cods it's on 360. 360 is honestly the best place to play them anyway, the controller is better and there is no input delay, since it's emulated on the newer consoles they have notice input delay, so 360 is better for that reason.
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
@Nitroh- 360 is the best for playing these old games I agree but the problem for most is having a 360 that works and will continue to wokr So I would advise most to get an xbox series s when looking to play these old cod games and still have a console that can be used for the current games!
@Nitroh-4 күн бұрын
@TazXGold I have no need for a series, all modern games I play either on PC or PS5. If my 360s break I have a good local retro store that can supply good quality refurbished ones. Plus I like collecting game discs so a digital only console would be useless to me.
@derekellisCAN4 күн бұрын
Too bad XDefiant is rife with cheaters. Played about 5 games and 3 of them had cheaters.
@tocooh68384 күн бұрын
Always Last.
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
Worlds fastest to being last!
@alex____56022 күн бұрын
I haven't seen the vid yet but I'm assuming they're waiting to do it after the bo6 launch window to now conflict with sales
@Altered.Frequency4 күн бұрын
Yeah, at this point it is impossible to make the Xbox 360 secure, it has been hacked to deeply plus Microsoft wouldnt waste resources on a 20 years old console that doesnt make any profit, especially after the stores were shut down. I see only 2 realistic options to revive old CODs which would fix the cheater issue. First one is to introduce a game patch that explicitly separates Xbox 360 players from Xbox One and Xbox Series players. (Xbox One and Xbox Series players would be in one pool together and Xbox 360 players in a separate matchmaking pool). The other option is if the online functionality of Xbox 360 gets shut down entirely. Then players would have to move to Xbox One or Xbox Series and afaik those systems are secure and there is no jailbreak for them. Which means that people couldnt hack in COD games anymore. And I dont rule out the option of complete shutdown of online functionality on Xbox 360, it happened for the original Xbox (classic) as well and 20+ years after release of the console, nobody should expect online support from the company that released the console.
@ChamiIion3 күн бұрын
answer: Games will be releasing on gamepass right with BO6
@0ffendingeverybodyyy4 күн бұрын
if they added old cod to game pass with online no one would play there new crap games
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
I think they do fear this as shown with everything that happened with the h2m mod this year 😅 I can imagine they see old cod on game pass having a similar impact so might be why we may never get old cod on game pass 😬
@derekellisCAN4 күн бұрын
I just got the xbox ultimate game pass for pc, and I'm playing MW3 and having a blast.l
@DXNVSTY4 күн бұрын
it wouldn't be a problem for microsoft. The most important thing would be that the games run on Microsoft servers. Unfortunately, it is unsafe to play older Call Of Duty games on Steam.
@NightDark_Films2 күн бұрын
Would be hapy cause i have be one of those people who kinda did miss out but didnt i start with 0ps 2 on my pal ps.3 in 2017 first i own on was it waw p.c. and wii b01 but wasnt too much. My first i ever own was ghost, b03 wnd love to have the opportunity. .
@Junebug8792 күн бұрын
I played bo2 yesterday and every single game I played had hackers it’s a shit show
@alex____56022 күн бұрын
And they've even tried updating it twice this year too
@Newdaystoday4 күн бұрын
Well I did put my ps5 in the cupboard and bought a Xbox one so I could play bo1 and bo2 zombies
@empirednw66243 күн бұрын
It won’t happen. They aren’t coming.
@dotexe55games314 күн бұрын
They make Bo6 look like 🐕 💩
@draxlerm96334 күн бұрын
it's over brother
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
At this rate probably, but I think it is one that activision and Microsoft are keeping in the back pocket for when cod takes a nosedive or a new game isn't well received 😅
@Altered.Frequency4 күн бұрын
Would say its over mate. Yeah, at this point it is impossible to make the Xbox 360 secure, it has been hacked to deeply plus Microsoft wouldnt waste resources on a 20 years old console that doesnt make any profit, especially after the stores were shut down. I see only 2 realistic options to revive old CODs which would fix the cheater issue. First one is to introduce a game patch that explicitly separates Xbox 360 players from Xbox One and Xbox Series players. (Xbox One and Xbox Series players would be in one pool together and Xbox 360 players in a separate matchmaking pool). The other option is if the online functionality of Xbox 360 gets shut down entirely. Then players would have to move to Xbox One or Xbox Series and afaik those systems are secure and there is no jailbreak for them. Which means that people couldnt hack in COD games anymore. And I dont rule out the option of complete shutdown of online functionality on Xbox 360, it happened for the original Xbox (classic) as well and 20+ years after release of the console, nobody should expect online support from the company that released the console.
@fireballmagic94364 күн бұрын
They have been secretly updating 5th gen titles such as infinite warfare giving me hope they are readying them for a game pass release
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
Is that normally just an update to promote the next cod coming out? Used to see it with black ops 2 promoting advanced warfare etc
@Noxis074 күн бұрын
@@TazXGoldI doubt it, those updates usually stop after a certain point. MW3 (2011) promoted Advanced Warfare but stopped. Black Ops 1 is still promoting the Resurrection DLC pack. MW2019 promoted MWII and stopped there. They only do this when there's still a sizable amount of players in the games. Doesn't make sense to as far back as World at War to promote Black Ops 6.
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
@Noxis07 fair enough just assumed that might be the case don't know why they have gone back and updated infinite Warfare but would also make sense to release something like infinite Warfare to the game pass first. It wasn't a very well received cod anyway and probably wouldn't hurt future sales compared to the classics that people do want on the game pass so I could see that happening.
@robinson329934 күн бұрын
I want to become a hacker just so that I can kick people out of the games who are cheating
@richpoor1462 күн бұрын
Would the dlc maps come free?
@TazXGold2 күн бұрын
I would hope so we have seen the cod 4 dlc maps be listed for free so anything is possible. I personally think it would be a massive oversight not to but we also know activision likes money so there that too 😅
@nikoserkku22884 күн бұрын
There is no bundels in older games so its not going to happen
@ProphetOfDoubt4 күн бұрын
So I understand Xbox should be getting all the old cod games, but will PlayStation be able to play these older games at some point too?
@dennistomaschek4 күн бұрын
On the Day we get ghost of Tsushima
@fromaguez4 күн бұрын
free dlc in game pass would be golden
@TazXGold4 күн бұрын
I think that should be a guarantee with how old these games are and is definitely possible as cod 4 map dlc is free for everyone so there are signs they would do this if and when they do add them!
@fromaguez3 күн бұрын
@@TazXGold hope i can hop on mw2 dlcs if it happens one day, want to try out storm