What happened to the air war in Ukraine?

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Imperial War Museums

Жыл бұрын

When the war in Ukraine began, there were estimates that Russia would establish air superiority within a matter of days. But 9 months into the war, the skies over Ukraine are still contested. Why have Russia struggled to utilise their air power effectively? And how has the war in the air changed as a result?
We look at how Ukraine's air defences have created a denial of air space, and the history of surface to air missile systems, which has led to a lot of the SAMS in the war in Ukraine dating back to the Soviet era. As the skies have become more dangerous due to advanced SAM technology, we’ve seen the development of new systems to resist air dominance, such as new surveillance and combat drones.
IWM's free photography display 'Ukraine: Photographs from the Front Line' opens at IWM London on 3 February: www.iwm.org.uk/events/iwm-lon...
IMAGE CREDITS
Russian footage via Mil.ru (CC BY 4.0)
Ukrainian footage via armyinform.com.ua (CC BY 4.0)
The crash site of a Russian Su-34 shot down over the private sector of Chernihiv via dsns.gov.ua
Soviet Air Defence Documentary Series by Wings of Russia Studio
Russian helicopter Mi-35 shot down by Ukrainian forces via armyinform.com.ua
Ukrainian servicemen with downed Russian drone via dshv.mil.gov.ua
Shahed 136 drone via Iranian ministry of defence

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@Steve-gc5nt
@Steve-gc5nt Жыл бұрын
Russia chose mega-yachts over an airforce.
@briant5685
@briant5685 Жыл бұрын
you cannot establish air superiority in a conflict with a vast nation with capable air defences,this is not some type of terrorist or insurgents which the US usually fights and people know it,the same problems US would face if they fought a country with well established air defences,vietnam was a good example,US lost dozen of planes
@VajrahahaShunyata
@VajrahahaShunyata Жыл бұрын
Special forces was in iraq a week before we invaded and took out Iraqi aiir defenses. We can do it. More proof you're not fighting NATO
@melt-down
@melt-down Жыл бұрын
this has nothing to do with people who are used to fighting terrorists and has more to do with everyone thought Russia had actually been putting money into their military and it turns out they even pocketed that cash to.
@jboydayz
@jboydayz Жыл бұрын
for you lot who were making long responses to this guys comment, it was a joke.
@carwyngriffiths
@carwyngriffiths Жыл бұрын
@@briant5685 yet still had a much better time with much less capable equipment than what Russia is having right now
@lem1137
@lem1137 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the video there is a comment, paraphrasing here, that using a very expensive missile to shoot down a $20,000 is not an ideal strategy. I’ve heard variations of this observation several times since the Russians started using cheap Iranian drones. However, costs of the destruction caused by a drone is relevant, not the cost of the drone itself.
@tomcardale5596
@tomcardale5596 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, but if you use a $20k drone to mop up a $400k missile that would destroy a $1m target, that's a pretty good way to wage an economic war. The defender has an immediate choice of losing a $400k missile or a $1m target. But they don't actually know where that drone is heading, maybe it's just trundling towards a field. Or maybe it's a $10m target. Or perhaps the drone is a decoy and there are a bunch of much bigger missiles following it and the enemy is hoping you'll waste all your air defenses on the little drones at the beginning. You also can't defend every target. All this confusion for the price of one pretty cheap flying moped.
@davidressler4292
@davidressler4292 Жыл бұрын
and it turns out that Iran can only make a few drones a week, so they were all sent out in the beginning
@nevoobrazimiy
@nevoobrazimiy Жыл бұрын
I believe this comment was made in defence of giving Ukraine systems which are already exist and purposely designed to counter such drone attacks
@AlexAnteroLammikko
@AlexAnteroLammikko Жыл бұрын
Allowing the drones to hit the civilians is unacceptable. Shooting down the drones is costly. Thats the entire dilemma and the point of their usage. Functionally they serve very little military purpose as they can't strike mobile military targets, but they can strike stationary civilian ones, a war crime but something Russia cares little about. So I get what you are saying, but at the same time the original statement is correct: it is not an ideal strategy to shoot them down with missiles that cost more than the drones do. Ukraine also knows this of course and is working to get (and has already gotten) cheaper air defense systems like anti air guns as bullets are cheaper than missiles.
@mm-hq4qh
@mm-hq4qh Жыл бұрын
begining of skznet ...
@mattyduncan4679
@mattyduncan4679 Жыл бұрын
I think the sophistication of shoulder fired anti aircraft missile systems has finally caught up with traditional airforce. Without being able to use aircraft over a combat zone.....I could see how some conflicts could be reduced back to trench warfare....which we are actually seeing in areas of the Ukraine. Kinda disturbing to think about tbh.
@natastudyN
@natastudyN Жыл бұрын
Ukrainian fantastic fighters (pilots, special forces, and artillery) shot down 308 ruZZian aircrafts and 293 helicopters (as of 04.18.2023). And most of experienced ruZZian pilots were also shot down. RuZZia still has a lot of "cannon meat" to recruit and grind in meaningless soviet-style attacks but most of ruZZia's professional army personnel and more modern weapons has been destroyed in Ukraine. Glory to Ukrainian heroes!
@user-vm5ps9ik8c
@user-vm5ps9ik8c 11 ай бұрын
@@natastudyN you seem really knowledgeable. Can I just ask a question? Why aren't the Russians using the Air Force? Is it because of their missile systems? They don't really need to have airplanes bomb? On the eastern front and maybe because trench warfare and the front lines are so too close to each other. I just don't get it. You would think they would be using their Superior Air Force
@BelovedChatter
@BelovedChatter 11 ай бұрын
@@natastudyNjust keep on sending the boys to the front is a classic Russian tactic.
@Caseytify
@Caseytify 11 ай бұрын
@@user-vm5ps9ik8c MANPADs. Ukraine faces the same challenge, but has made effective use of lightweight drones like various Switchblade models for attacking ground forces. Historically Russia has depended on massed artillery, but ATACMS and other missile systems have neutralized them.
@eugene937
@eugene937 11 ай бұрын
@@user-vm5ps9ik8c Other than the obvious answer which is the Air defence systems that were sent to Ukraine from the west. The main reason is that every hour of flying requires 17hours of maintenance, and at this point because of all the corruption, russia does not have enough engineers to maintain their air force not to mention during peace time they barely maintained any equipment which means they are probably trying to fix everything that isn’t working. This is also why you see so many training accidents in Russia where a jet just falls out of the sky. Another reason is that Russia relies very heavily on western smart technology for their electronics, and because of all the sanctions, they aren’t able to afford to lose many more. Just think about it this way, Russia (supposedly the second best army in the world) is now relying on north korea and iran for their equipment, that should give you a rough idea of how bad the situation is in Russia in terms of working equipment.
@jppalm3944
@jppalm3944 Жыл бұрын
The truth....Russia felt their NUKES would intimate everybody. That strategy, training, standard weapons, corruption, and fake inventory would not matter
@deeestuary
@deeestuary Жыл бұрын
Threatening Nukes was Putin’s biggest mistake after the invasion itself. It guaranteed to unite the rest of the world against him, even China must have been horrified. What was he thinking? Did he really think everyone would just cower in fright and let Russia do whatever they wanted? What it told me that there must be something very wrong within the Kremlin to make a threat like that.
@claudiohysi9203
@claudiohysi9203 Жыл бұрын
They still do ! Are you kidding i mean take a look a kim jon un he lunches one and makes every news world wide .
@jaykolinsky7103
@jaykolinsky7103 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. They think their nukes are their ace of a spades. The problem with that is, if you don't have anything to go with that ace, then you surely don't have a hand to play poker with, only a bluff.
@Discohit
@Discohit Жыл бұрын
They don’t even know how many nukes they have, or even if they will work after sitting idol for decades with no maintenance. Under estimate NATO nukes.
@Discohit
@Discohit Жыл бұрын
Sophisticated pilots must fly their birds, and train with them, constantly, wx permitting. Maintenance must be top notch. Poor maintenance =poor performance.
@ycplum7062
@ycplum7062 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, the Russian Air Force effectively eliminated threats from the air, but they failed to knock out Ukrainian land-based air defenses in the opening days of the war. This is problematic since Russians do not do SEAD, suppression of enemy air defenses. US pilots get about twice the flight training hours as Russian pilots. However, US specialized SEAD pilots get twice the flight training hours as regular US pilots. Russian SEAD is effectively nonexistent.
@VajrahahaShunyata
@VajrahahaShunyata Жыл бұрын
Their airforce is in decline. Has been for years
@bigbengamer
@bigbengamer Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the OODA loop.
@robertspiller7093
@robertspiller7093 Жыл бұрын
THE RUSSIANS AIR FORCE HAS ELIMINATED NOTHING. THE RUSSIANS PLANES AGAINST NATO WOULD NOT LAST A MONTH.
@davidclaudy4822
@davidclaudy4822 Жыл бұрын
@@bigbengamer I would bet 90% of the people on this comment section and this video don’t know what the OODA loop is. I am former Army, so….
@eliasziad7864
@eliasziad7864 Жыл бұрын
Russia doesn't depend on their airforce like the US does. Different doctrine, the US will use aircraft to destroy enemy targets in the battlefield, and risk getting shot down. While Russia will use artillery to destroy enemy targets on the battlefield.
@Tyler.i.81
@Tyler.i.81 Жыл бұрын
Drone wars are terrifying
@DannyBoy777777
@DannyBoy777777 Жыл бұрын
@matt.81 I know, we had them at school. I'd say our geography teacher won.
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Жыл бұрын
Bow and arrows and spear wars are no picnic either.
@victorhankinson1530
@victorhankinson1530 Жыл бұрын
@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Exactly!
@JLSMaytham
@JLSMaytham Жыл бұрын
yes. The USA have been murdering people this way for some time with about 80% of the casualties being "collateral" - innocent bystanders. "Western Values"? No thanks
@Jabberstax
@Jabberstax Жыл бұрын
The world has learnt that the Russian armed forces as a whole aren't as strong as previously believed. The air force and navy have barely been involved.
@user-mu8kf5tx3s
@user-mu8kf5tx3s Жыл бұрын
Are you a sofa expert?
@SCARFACE-gp4fy
@SCARFACE-gp4fy Жыл бұрын
The navy apart from launching missiles have not much else to do ukraine has no navy to speak of plus airforce really only needs ground attack aircraft at the moment su 25 long range bombers why waste more fighter aircraft when the Ukrainian airforce poses next to no threat sam AA is the biggest threat from the Ukrainian side.
@loganamurray64
@loganamurray64 Жыл бұрын
@@user-mu8kf5tx3sHe’s right though, with it’s size Russia should’ve achieved air superiority within days, a week or two max and they still haven’t. Ukraine sunk Moskva without a fight and the Russians are barely even trying to bombard the shore with missiles anymore
@dogzdigital
@dogzdigital 11 ай бұрын
Thats because Russia understands that war is an economics game. Why spend a fortune on high grade weapon expenditure when artillery rounds will accomplish the same thing only much cheaper.
@Herr.Mitternacht
@Herr.Mitternacht 11 ай бұрын
@@dogzdigital At the cost of hundreds of thousands of young men? Great trade
@lobstereleven4610
@lobstereleven4610 Жыл бұрын
Ty for this video! 👍
@Thinkingaroundthebox
@Thinkingaroundthebox Жыл бұрын
Like the rest of Russia's military, their air force was massively over rated at the start of the war It is one thing to say that you have all this advanced equipment, but when corruption steals most of the money for that equipment your military is just a paper tiger The other issue with aircraft is that they require a lot of maintenance and Russia just isn't getting the parts to keep their planes flying and combat ready I'm sure they are stripping planes to keep others in the air, but that quickly reduces the size of your air fleet I.E. the blades in a jet engine are exposed to insane heat and have to be replaced regularly
@garythornbury9793
@garythornbury9793 Жыл бұрын
they have a major problem with replacing equipment, the aircraft carrier can't leave the port without a tug boat to make sure it can get back.
@alexa-wh4en
@alexa-wh4en Жыл бұрын
Got to ask just how advanced Russian equipment actually is. Their airframes are ok, but airframes and engines are pretty much at the dead end anyway, since 80s, discounting stealth, nothing of substance was done there. Electronics and weapons however, have advanced a lot, and we don`t see indication that Russians have managed to improve on that.
@sethrichardson8344
@sethrichardson8344 Жыл бұрын
There is the possibility Putin thought once the war kicked off that NATO would send air support wanted to wait till that happens.
@J.M.254
@J.M.254 Жыл бұрын
They are keeping their best, for the last.
@zacklp3844
@zacklp3844 Жыл бұрын
@@J.M.254 Then they are retarded this isn't a dark souls boss battle, why not use their strongest conventional weapons at the start of the war.
@Wpns175
@Wpns175 Жыл бұрын
You are dead right on the corruption and training issues. They are HUGE. I think the main issue was their doctrine. They lack the "set-play" type operational capabilities that Western air forces have. The Russian military has a lot of internal issues, and some of those issues make it impossible for Russia to develop the "Red Flag" type, high quality training systems. Defeating complex A2AD is a doctrine that takes a lot of time and practice to develop. I think the Russian AF is reached a critical point in it's combat effectiveness. The Russian AF is now likely at the point in which they cannot take more casualties without sacrificing their overall national security.
@karenhuff5045
@karenhuff5045 Жыл бұрын
Countries like Russia want quantity not quality in weaponry
@VajrahahaShunyata
@VajrahahaShunyata Жыл бұрын
Karen , Thank God they don't have both...
@michaelpettersson4919
@michaelpettersson4919 Жыл бұрын
@@karenhuff5045 And THAT will bite them. Cheap mass produced equipment that are hopelessly obsolete are no goid path to victory.
@richardkroll2269
@richardkroll2269 Жыл бұрын
@@VajrahahaShunyata Oh they don't??? Seems to me that since the new general is in place and they have mobilized more forces (anyone remember when Turkey denied us access to have a second front on Iraq?) there will be hell coming for breakfast when the ground freezes. The west has run critically low of 155mm ammunition amongst ATGM and any defenses against the swarm of drone technology in place by the Russians.
@castlerock58
@castlerock58 Жыл бұрын
The Russian air force has not taken a lot of losses. The Ghost of Kiev was a lie.
@MrBabylon
@MrBabylon Жыл бұрын
China and USA are learning very important lessons in this conflict, 1. Swarms of cheap drones can easily overcome even the most sophisticated air defence system, 2. West has very limited capability to build replacement missiles due to complexity. US/NATO have learned that a missile based system alone will not be enough, air defence will need a complete rethink and a new system with far greater capacity is needed. Something like a directed energy based system where electricity is the ammo.
@chaosXP3RT
@chaosXP3RT Жыл бұрын
Good thing the US Navy has already built a laser weapon
@briant5685
@briant5685 Жыл бұрын
you cannot establish air superiority in a conflict with a vast nation with capable air defences,this is not some type of terrorist or insurgents which the US usually fights and people know it,the same problems US would face if they fought a country with well established air defences
@marrs1013
@marrs1013 Жыл бұрын
Point defense systems, like the Phalanx, has been a thing for a while. Just have sensitive enough radar to pick them up and a Gatling with a reasonable fire control system. Energy based solutions are unreliable in adverse weather conditions, like fog, snow, or rain. Not to mention the energy source needed to run them will be a massive target on its own. Put a Phalanx on the back of a truck with a diesel generator ticking over to power it and trailer behind it with a ton of ammo. Cheap, mobile, does the job for a fraction of the cost. Loosing some wouldn't mean much. Energy based systems might be useful in space, where you operate in near vacuum(nothing to scatter the beam), with energy being more available(fusion in space sorted) then material to throw at the target.
@Poliss95
@Poliss95 Жыл бұрын
You're talking about phasers? 😂Israel has its Iron Dome system that is pretty handy at shooting down rockets. Very few get through.
@start2957
@start2957 Жыл бұрын
@@Poliss95 guess what was the iron dome made for? Cheap hamas rockets it hasn't been tested with a cruise missile and such
@GeorgeSemel
@GeorgeSemel Жыл бұрын
The Russian Pilots don't get enough flying and training per year and they have never gotten into doing the Wild Weasel mission. This is a big part of the problem along with all the other issues within the Russian system.
@jtgd
@jtgd Жыл бұрын
It’s insane how little training they get compared to western pilots
@damien5748
@damien5748 Жыл бұрын
@@jtgd they are nothing more than Airshow pilots....and thats being generous. ...russia (as the soviet union as it was back then) got its ass kicked in Afghanistan...and then later (as Russia) got its ass kicked in Checneya,Georgia and now Ukraine.....am i saying its all one sided in favour of Ukraine?....no of course not but if invading Ukraine was ggoing to be the walk over they thought it would have been then they would have won the war months ago.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 Жыл бұрын
This is true. Before the invasion the average Russian pilot was getting about one third to one half the annual flying hours of his western counterpart. And he could be flying air defence with wild weasel the next. If you are not getting the hours, training or practise you cannot build up the required skills to the levels you need to do what is required.
@stc3145
@stc3145 Жыл бұрын
Only 70-90 hours a year compared to Nato’s 200 hour minimum. US pilots get upwards to 250.
@damien5748
@damien5748 Жыл бұрын
@@stc3145 exactly...defintly not up to the job.
@Crashed131963
@Crashed131963 Жыл бұрын
Brain Drain made most of Russia's trained young technicians leave the country. Russia has a hard time maintaining army truck tires let alone jets.
@jude_the_apostle
@jude_the_apostle Жыл бұрын
I think we’re watching the transformation of conventional conflict in real time and the reality has shocked us bc its never really been shown to us on such a scale before. Developments in anti-armour, anti-air systems, drone technology, cyber warfare and the internet have made many systems obsolete now. Our whole general philosophy of war has been based off conflicts that happed 50/60 years ago.
@minimal_enthusiasm5971
@minimal_enthusiasm5971 Жыл бұрын
Very true! Also the West has been very focused on counter-insurgency type warfare recently, and they were starting to question if large land-based forces of tanks etc were now obsolete; a relic of the Cold War. But Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the resulting land war in Europe has got them reconsidering that.
@brandonspence396
@brandonspence396 Жыл бұрын
Tanks may still beuseful for hitting well fortified locations with a resilient enemy. What Russia currently lacks is well coordinated combined arms skills that leave their elements exposed to weakness. IE: Russian tanks hit without infantry support.
@alvydasjokubauskas2587
@alvydasjokubauskas2587 Жыл бұрын
Well also they are not prepared like in 50 years ago, each side would had lots of factories running making amunition, now even US strugle to produce 2 tanks per month, when Ukraine loses 2 per day, while Russia loses 10 tanks per day...
@Sajuuk
@Sajuuk Жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, and to victory go those who are able to provide and adapt i.e. Ukraine. Russia still uses mostly Cold War Soviet tactics which have been proven to be ineffective. They are also extremely inflexible.
@r5141
@r5141 Жыл бұрын
тут такое.. чего вы не знаете,если что я сам нем не поняо,но понял,того что вы не поняли,короче ,че вам надо от Руси земель? куй вам.
@TokiDesha
@TokiDesha Жыл бұрын
A few notes: 1. Russia has a very modern, efficient and quantitative park of combat aviation, especially comparing to Ukraine - approx. 1000 combat vehicles (to 100 Ukrainian at 24th), but only 100 Russian pilots were combat ready for missions due to constant erosion of pilots from combat air-force to civilian through the years (better payment, work condition etc. - check the latest RUSI report for more info) 2. Historically, USSR had the best SAM systems in the world, both in quality and in quantity, in result both Russia and Ukraine has a ton of air deniability in their arsenal 3. As mentioned in the comments below, no SEAD 4. Medium and Long ranged SAM are denying high skies, while ground forces, highly saturated with portable SAMs (Soviet and donated by the West) were denying low skies. As a result, both sides are controlling their own aerospace under the cover of their ground forces and SAM systems, the only difference Russia has access to strategic aviation which it is using to launch long-range missiles at Ukraine.
@abrahamdozer6273
@abrahamdozer6273 Жыл бұрын
... but unable to deliver the goods. The brochure on the Russian airforce is better than the actual product.
@ernietech2256
@ernietech2256 Жыл бұрын
Let me explain why this is not quite as important as one might think. The F-22 has the radar signature of a bumblebee as does the B-2 bomber. The Chinese J-20 is years away from being operational and mass-producible. The Russian Sukhoi Su-75 is a pipe dream that will never make it into production. That leaves Russia with large-signature aircraft that are easily taken down by US and European produced AAS. The Ukrainian AF will not operate the F-16's as strike aircraft. They will rarely be in a position to be targets of Russian SAMs.
@elbruces
@elbruces Жыл бұрын
Airplanes require a *lot* of maintenance. And Russia has been discovering that decades of people pocketing money earmarked towards maintenance and supplies have left them with a small fraction of *working* equipment, compared to the total they were told they had.
@SeveredLegs
@SeveredLegs Жыл бұрын
​@@abrahamdozer6273 when was the last time the USA flew in range of S-400, Pantsir, and Buk systems? It's a huge liability for any air force, hence why nobody really does it very often.
@abrahamdozer6273
@abrahamdozer6273 Жыл бұрын
@@SeveredLegs Syria It'll be interesting to see F-35s flying over them. They likely already are with the Israeli air force.
@ginmar8134
@ginmar8134 Жыл бұрын
Their tank turrets spend more time in the air than their planes.
@christopherlamitie-pj8bg
@christopherlamitie-pj8bg Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as a “suicide” drone. It is merely a form of weapons delivery. It is no more “suicidal” than an air to air missile or a surface to air missile.
@Triple5live
@Triple5live Жыл бұрын
First decent report I’ve seen. I’m amazed of the lack of detail of the war in reporting.
@garyshepherd9367
@garyshepherd9367 Жыл бұрын
Tik tok news
@KuDastardly
@KuDastardly Жыл бұрын
Lately, I heard that the US is sending their anti-air Avengers to combat the Shahed suicide drones. Germany also sent theirs as well I think. I forgot what they were called though. Either way, these defense systems are intended to be cost effeicient in the long run.
@isaacflorian4171
@isaacflorian4171 Жыл бұрын
Gepards?
@firnen_
@firnen_ Жыл бұрын
@@isaacflorian4171 Gepards, but also the IRIS-T SLM, which is a modern, state of the art air defense system. I think it's the most modern surface to air missile system Ukraine now has access to, albeit only a single unit has been delivered so far.
@linusa2996
@linusa2996 Жыл бұрын
Not enough of them
@joshuarich7527
@joshuarich7527 Жыл бұрын
The US version sent was the "Avenger" anti-air Humvee
@thekinginyellow1744
@thekinginyellow1744 Жыл бұрын
Only four avengers sent. Not enough. I think the issue is that stinger production was basically idling when the "Special Military Operation" started. I expect that they should be fully ramped soon and more avengers will show up in Ukraine.
@DonVigaDeFierro
@DonVigaDeFierro Жыл бұрын
The Russian air force is large and modern. Except the large part is not modern, and the modern part is not large.
@cheezeball6109
@cheezeball6109 Жыл бұрын
Doesnt need to be when you have the checkmate...
@yuriy5376
@yuriy5376 Жыл бұрын
@@cheezeball6109 What's that?
@cheezeball6109
@cheezeball6109 Жыл бұрын
@@yuriy5376 the nuke boom 💥
@yuriy5376
@yuriy5376 Жыл бұрын
@@cheezeball6109 nuke is not a checkmate. It's more like a suicide bomb.
@Mugdorna
@Mugdorna Жыл бұрын
10 hours a month is barely enough to maintain their skills, but not to be able to adjust to changing mission roles and interservice co-ordination.
@GordonjSmith1
@GordonjSmith1 Жыл бұрын
Informing - my thanks.
@sigmundlisiza9484
@sigmundlisiza9484 Жыл бұрын
@IWM again please match the pictures to what is said. It is becoming a pattern at your channel that the audio content is great but the video makes it not trustworthy. Example (2:56): first showing marching soldiers, fine to make the point about the Cold War but still showing a SAM would match better. But talking about surface to air missiles and showing a katjusha Surface to Surface parade next is just wrong as it gives people not knowing what they see a wrong image. I truly don’t understand how either you don’t check the final video or set the quality standard so low and let it go through. And having a person looking up the stock material / editing the video that has no idea about the topic is a strange idea to me too… I expect more from you as you can do better!
@bremnersghost948
@bremnersghost948 Жыл бұрын
Ego caused Russia to Underestimate Ukraine like Germany did Britain in WW2.
@georgehollingsworth2428
@georgehollingsworth2428 Жыл бұрын
In the 1990s the Russian aircraft were often unable to fly in bad weather because pilots and ground crews had stolen the alcohol based wiper fluid.I am sure that type of situation still exists.
@douglaswatters7303
@douglaswatters7303 Жыл бұрын
We did the same thing in the US Navy. There was a alcohol that was kept in the medical department but a maintenance check called for one ounce of it to clean the heads on a computer tape drive. We would take the maintenance card to medical and get a ounce of that alcohol and put it in a jug of water and the electronics techs would drink it and get messed up. Good old days.
@MK_ULTRA420
@MK_ULTRA420 Жыл бұрын
@@douglaswatters7303"Good old days." Before they replaced it all with Isopropyl, I assume?
@georgehollingsworth2428
@georgehollingsworth2428 Жыл бұрын
@@douglaswatters7303 I'm sorry, but you fellows being creative and having your bit of fun is NOT on the level of systemic Russian military corruption. I was an analyst and also taught Soviet Politics in the late 1980s to mid 1990s. I once saw a report stating that, on average, almost 40 percent of Soviet military equipment was arriving at its destination from the factory with so many parts being stolen that they were inoperable. Corruption in Russia was so endemic and all pervasive that we came up with the term :"Kleptocracy" to describe their form of Government.
@douglaswatters7303
@douglaswatters7303 Жыл бұрын
@@MK_ULTRA420 I think it was grain alcohol. I didn't drink it myself I'm not much of a drinker. I would just take the card to medical and say the tape drives needed maintenance and get the alcohol needed for the cleaning. The card said one ounce but you only needed enough to wet a couple q-tips. The guys would put it in a jug of water and drink it. It messed them up so I guess that stuff is too strong to drink straight.
@jameslumisden5581
@jameslumisden5581 Жыл бұрын
Great comment Steve!!!
@robertodavalos5430
@robertodavalos5430 Жыл бұрын
Surface to Air and Surface to Surface missiles are becoming the story of this war.
@bobwoods1302
@bobwoods1302 Жыл бұрын
Flying NOE (nap of the Earth) is not only dangerous but tiring for the pilot and takes their attention away from the overall battlefield.
@VajrahahaShunyata
@VajrahahaShunyata Жыл бұрын
Sop
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 Жыл бұрын
the loss of air superiority and the vast influx of anti-aircraft support…same story as WWI, WWII, and other major wars. even though they have planes, they are fearful of losing them to Ukraine forcing drones to do the hard work on the front lines while planes shoot from safety of Belarus and Russia
@karlharrison2449
@karlharrison2449 Жыл бұрын
Thats funny, Russia have flown over 38,000 sorties since the start of the conflict
@classicgalactica5879
@classicgalactica5879 Жыл бұрын
@@karlharrison2449 👈 Fake account. Russian troll bot.
@karlharrison2449
@karlharrison2449 Жыл бұрын
That is incorrect.
@henryhsu7314
@henryhsu7314 Жыл бұрын
This is an excellant article.
@carloscostaXX
@carloscostaXX Жыл бұрын
Constant undervaluation of your opponent is a good strategy in which manual?
@user-fu2sg4vt3d
@user-fu2sg4vt3d Жыл бұрын
I hope that in next war generation will emmerge a new level of airdefence and air denial complex containing long range high attitude, price and radioactivity systems like s-300, patriot or samp/t being defended and supported with c-rams, automatised low and mid range air-cannons, cheaper and smaller airdefence rockets and even concentrated energy weapons(lasers) with their own sensors or dependant on info from other sources including mentioned long-range sams to effectively be able to cover all air menaces excluding probably only artillery shells, multiple launched rockets and cheap frontline strike drones( thus front threats should be dealed with preemptive strikes, camouflage, movement and other basic frontline practices) making next generation wars to go away from a straight military budget comprasion that air war is
@volvo145
@volvo145 Жыл бұрын
What would be interesting if it would be if an expert sort of talked about each of the Russian planes and helicopters and gave us a better idea what you’re capable of etc. that would be interesting
@Caseytify
@Caseytify 11 ай бұрын
Check Wikipedia. Russia has new 5th gen aircraft, and their 4th gen aircraft are half obsolete. Ditto for helicopters. These days their greatest capability is "target."
@phoenixrising9785
@phoenixrising9785 Жыл бұрын
Ukraine should also acquire more AAA like the Gepard. They can be used against slow flying drones and cruise missiles. And even ground targets a when needed. Better to use few rounds of ammo than the more expensive SAM rockets.
@Minutemman
@Minutemman Жыл бұрын
This is just a problem for most nations, this is because the U.S. has something called SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses) this role is almost non-resistant in Russia and in a lot of countries too. Without SEAD fighting a war against large amounts of SAM's will attempting to field a large air force would be almost impossible. We can look back to Operation Desert Storm when America launched many SEAD operations against Iraqi SAM's and pretty much controlled the skies throughout the conflict.
@JudgeLazar
@JudgeLazar Жыл бұрын
I think people tend to forget one extremely important factor in the Russian strategic and tactical mistakes early in the war. Putin gambled that he would be able to take the country in less than two weeks and take out the government in 3 days. That's why they didn't go all out in the early phase of the invasion. They didn't destroy a lot of Ukrainian assets or infrastructure because they wanted to take it intact to more smoothly consolidate the victory and subjugation of Ukraine. That gamble did not pay off and as a result Russia not only lost a lot of their logistics capability as it came in behind the combat troops assaulting towards Kyiv. Those combat troops then had to fight their way back out of Ukraine and do so with inadequate supplies and equipment and exhausted troops. This cost them dearly. They lost high ranking officers, trained and willing combat troops and special forces units. Meanwhile western support poured into Ukraine making the UAF counter attacks on retreating Russian troops even more effective. Not to discount or downplay the Ukrainians impressive performance and resolve, but Putin's arrogance and Russia's poor intelligence apparatus played a very large role in how the early war progressed, especially around Kyiv.
@user-mu8kf5tx3s
@user-mu8kf5tx3s Жыл бұрын
Putin said that he would capture Ukraine in 3 days? Or journalists?
@user-mu8kf5tx3s
@user-mu8kf5tx3s Жыл бұрын
@@thejsffenix6365 Since when does Putin do what journalists want? Are you friends with your head?
@user-cp1qi4wy7j
@user-cp1qi4wy7j Жыл бұрын
они вложились в атаку полностью. все боеспособные части пошли. поэтому они объявляют мобилизацию - армии у РФ нет. ты не аналитик.
@user-mu8kf5tx3s
@user-mu8kf5tx3s Жыл бұрын
@@user-cp1qi4wy7j зато ты у нас диванный эксперт. Только, на твое экспертное мнение всем пох. и мне тоже. По твоей логике армия украина наступает назад а российская армия отступает вперед. 🤣
@user-cp1qi4wy7j
@user-cp1qi4wy7j Жыл бұрын
@@user-mu8kf5tx3s что за армия России? зачем вам армия, если есть зеки и вагнер?
@yodaz101
@yodaz101 Жыл бұрын
Russia has a completely different philosophy of air power. They see them as airborn artillery...Wheras US has combined strategy with ground forces and air dominance... one of reason for huge casualties... Ground forces getting decimated.
@seadrifter8975
@seadrifter8975 Жыл бұрын
A lot of their jets are engine less or mechanically unsound, possibly?
@greenhat7618
@greenhat7618 Жыл бұрын
This contrast really shows how impressive the coalition’s air campaign is during Desert Storm.
@stc3145
@stc3145 Жыл бұрын
This is what happens when your defence minister lives in a 18 million $, mansion with a 200 000 $ yearly salary
@VajrahahaShunyata
@VajrahahaShunyata Жыл бұрын
Sounds like members of congress and the house of representatives.....🤔😲
@Boxing01Fan
@Boxing01Fan Жыл бұрын
It’s the portable Sam units that are making the difference, plus all these Russian jets are flying VERY low! Whihc makes them ideal targets for these mobile launchers
@grantsapain
@grantsapain Жыл бұрын
Blown to bits...
@MylesDavid
@MylesDavid Жыл бұрын
Great video!! In fact, please do more videos like this on the Russian invasion of Ukraine! They way this video explains everything was very helpful in understanding for example why the Russian military is utterly failing! More please! 😬👍🏼👍🏼
@JLSMaytham
@JLSMaytham Жыл бұрын
you woudn't like a small side bet on the Russian failure would you? best start preparing the excuses.
@1976athletico
@1976athletico Жыл бұрын
Utterly failing, then why is Ukraine military pleading for weapons to be given to them within weeks?
@MylesDavid
@MylesDavid Жыл бұрын
@@1976athletico Because it is taking massive amounts of ammunition and artillery munitions in order to do so. Both sides are using an enormous amount of munitions right now. The reason Ukraine is holding the line and making positive gains is because they are better trained and are being supported by other nations with weapons they do not have. Russia had serious issues with manpower but they have a lot more weapons even though their weapons are old, their strategy is to wear down the Ukrainians over time until Ukraine runs out of fighters and munitions. This is why it is crucial for Ukraine to receive much more weapon’s immediately. If they can force Russia out with an overwhelming counteroffensive, Russia will have no choice but to withdraw!
@DardaniaLion
@DardaniaLion Жыл бұрын
It’s sad how we speak about power and this or that. What really is happening in Ukraine is people like you and me with body parts tearing apart. People like you and me losing parents, siblings and other loved ones. It’s so sad how some people without any emotions are allowed to destroy the life of others.
@kerriwilson7732
@kerriwilson7732 Жыл бұрын
Allowed? Determined.
@robertmaybeth3434
@robertmaybeth3434 Жыл бұрын
Russia too, nobody in Russia wants this war. Russia already has more land and resources than they could exploit in a hundred years, they are the largest land mass in the world - but the resources in Ukraine are just a little easier to get to instead of the frozen wilds of Siberia!
@chrism415
@chrism415 Жыл бұрын
Yes, they are called psychopaths and thy planned the entire war.
@woodrowpreacely7521
@woodrowpreacely7521 Жыл бұрын
Yes yes those folks have such a long sad history of hating and killing each other.
@flyoptimum
@flyoptimum Жыл бұрын
This is true in all conflicts, and yet they still happen. You cannot wish the ugly of this life away. You can however do what it takes to ensure your family doesn't have to see the worst of it.
@mlbull2000
@mlbull2000 Жыл бұрын
Also since Russia does not effectively use high tech targeting pods they have to fly low to accurately hit a targets. Flying low they are are super vulnerable being shut down by shoulder mounted stinger missiles. Russian planes are big a powerful but they are very visible to radar unlike US and Euro non stealth planes with less radar signatures.
@thetruth7633
@thetruth7633 Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha too much Hollywood for you
@leonkenedy4616
@leonkenedy4616 Жыл бұрын
Acatually I believe is not about the cost of taking down a drone if the damage it can cause is superior to that of the weapon used to shut it down.
@TheArklyte
@TheArklyte Жыл бұрын
Russian planes have the same problem as russian tanks - corrupt command working on already tight budget that misuses them on tactical and strategic level, doesn't provide sufficient training and regular preventative maintenance and apparently just doesn't care. At all. If NATO and Russia had switched equipment, but retained all other factors, we'd now be watching videos about how bad and obsolete are F-35 \/(-_-)\/ And no amount of field modifications would change those problems as regime doesn't want to change or even admit that there are problems. Russia did to legacy of soviet military the same thing as it did to legacy of education(in technical fields) and industry. The only shocking part is that we were surprised by the former while being witness to the latter for decades. Rot and stagnation aren't things that limit themselves to single niche...
@williamyoung9401
@williamyoung9401 Жыл бұрын
And now that Russia doesn't have a usable air force, they're resorting to the terror tactics of suicide bombs. Just like Hitler did with his V1s and V2s...
@freemanfree9958
@freemanfree9958 Жыл бұрын
Ukraine has been supported by NATO in a way that some NATO countries have a shortage in some type of ammunition, plus Ukraine receives all kind of air defence systems, drones and jet fighters, add to all, in the first 8 months of war, Russia avoids attacking infrastructure ( roads, power electricity, train stations..) this makes the Ukranian army capable of reinforcing and getting support easily.
@renewklear
@renewklear Жыл бұрын
But at-least Russia has an ultra advanced fleet of Super Yachts, fully manned with highly trained Instagram models and armed with the latest golden flaked Champagne bottles… in your face US Navy!!!
@Arashko6052
@Arashko6052 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the hundreds of power full military base luxury mansions deep inside European soil manned with high ranking military officials and trained prostitutes
@dons618
@dons618 Жыл бұрын
Yes yes...in your face US military with two moms
@Native_love
@Native_love Жыл бұрын
They win the 'bling' battle.
@purplepidgin
@purplepidgin Жыл бұрын
@@dons618 😂😂😂
@thetruth7633
@thetruth7633 Жыл бұрын
send your children
@walterwikeepa5448
@walterwikeepa5448 Жыл бұрын
In case you didn't know drones and Sam's still kill saving aircraft and pilots it's called strategy.
@ac-uk6hs
@ac-uk6hs 11 ай бұрын
Minute 5:49... is that Michael Scott from the office holding the Bazooka
@phaexus
@phaexus Жыл бұрын
[ 5:48 ] - Oh my god. It's Michael Scott shooting a bazooka 😁
@G_Demolished
@G_Demolished Жыл бұрын
Their Air Force has a bring your own plane policy.
@bigantplowright5711
@bigantplowright5711 Жыл бұрын
They have the "world beating" S-57, where is it????? Same as the A-14 tank, where is it??
@start2957
@start2957 Жыл бұрын
It would be a waste, any plane or tank can get destoryed so why not send in something cheaper with the same firepower
@bigantplowright5711
@bigantplowright5711 Жыл бұрын
@@start2957 why waste money developing new stuff if you not going to use it??
@puellamservumaddominum6180
@puellamservumaddominum6180 Жыл бұрын
@@bigantplowright5711 to sell on world market for needed cash. Ukraine did same thing before war. Sell the new stuff. Use the 50 year old cold war crap for defense.
@Rob_F8F
@Rob_F8F Жыл бұрын
Russia may have about a dozen of each. Not enough to make a difference. An embarrassment if lost. And a treasure trive to the West if any were recovered by Ukraine.
@rayvaughn5658
@rayvaughn5658 Жыл бұрын
BLOOOD UP SIR........
@mm-hq4qh
@mm-hq4qh Жыл бұрын
same problem everywhere ...
@SapienAnamoly
@SapienAnamoly Жыл бұрын
Can they put the sensors from the man pads onto a chase drone? If the problem is hitting a smallish maneuverable object, can u use another drone to destroy it?
@ruslanhoncharenko2179
@ruslanhoncharenko2179 Жыл бұрын
Shades aren't that maneuverable, the most cheap solution is technical with machine gun which is currently used
@izhamroslan7400
@izhamroslan7400 Жыл бұрын
Human lives is more cheap than using air force..rip
@MadMax-iz4vm
@MadMax-iz4vm Жыл бұрын
For up to date information on the war: Watch U.N Arms Inspector Scott Ritter, Colonel McGregor and Redacted.
@divye.ruhela
@divye.ruhela Жыл бұрын
I ate SAMs like breakfast while playing HAWX 🤣 Evading them is a piece of cake. 🤣🤣
@joshuajgrillot
@joshuajgrillot Жыл бұрын
I think what has been learned the most is that Russia cannot stand against NATO allies in any effective way. If Ukraine has given them this much trouble, just imagine what the US and its allies would do to Russia on the battlefield.
@karlharrison2449
@karlharrison2449 Жыл бұрын
Ukraine was NATO trained for 8 years and equipped with the latest weapons it was the largest army in Europe. Ukraine had fortified towns and cities in the Donbass for 8 years on a scale not even seen in WW1. Russia with its 120,000 man army less than 20% of its total troop strength has destroyed the 260,000 man army Ukraine had at the beginning of the conflict and taken 20% of Ukraines land! NATO are too scared to fight Russia and with good reason.
@jamesk0ua
@jamesk0ua Жыл бұрын
@@karlharrison2449 Ha ha. Keep drinking Kari
@karlharrison2449
@karlharrison2449 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesk0ua The E.U put out a press release admitting Ukraine had over 100,00 KIA then withdrew it! The West/NATO are running out of weapons! This war of lies is about to bite the West on the ass! You must be stupid to believe it.
@joynalmiah549
@joynalmiah549 Жыл бұрын
Do people forget nuclear weapons exist?
@karlharrison2449
@karlharrison2449 Жыл бұрын
@@nikolas.2732 Correct, but distance makes them useless in this conflict.
@andrewbloom7694
@andrewbloom7694 Жыл бұрын
It'd probably have helped if the oligarchs didn't steal all the money that was supposed to upgrade their air force. Also, it would help if the average russian soldier was even vaguely competent...
@paulocallaghan3714
@paulocallaghan3714 Жыл бұрын
There is an important factor not discussed here ,NATO is running all long range detection systems allowing the ukraine air defence to be dormant 90% of the time .Western combined arms is only tested on countries with inferior military standards it has yet to face peer opposition
@markendicott6874
@markendicott6874 Жыл бұрын
Hard to gain air superiority over Eastern Europe from a Super yacht in the Caribbean.
@alantoon5708
@alantoon5708 Жыл бұрын
During the early '80's this joke made its' rounds thru NATO circles: The Russian hordes finally stormed over the Fulda Gap, defeated the NATO armies, and took over continental Europe. Two Russian general officers were sitting around in the former NATO headquarters having a victory dinner when one asked the other: "Tell me Comrade General, who won the air war?" What we are seeing now is almost a First World War fought with modern weapons. And tactical air is having a hard time when most everyone has a MANPADS.
@bigblue6917
@bigblue6917 Жыл бұрын
Ironically combined arms dates from 1918 when the British 4th Army drove the German army back in the campaign which ended the war.
@John_Hemingway
@John_Hemingway Жыл бұрын
Any time you see someone compare the Ukraine-Russia war to the first world war, you can pretty much guarantee they have no idea what they are talking about.
@Marvin-dg8vj
@Marvin-dg8vj Жыл бұрын
It would never have happened like that. Apart from anti tank weapons the armoured columns would have huge supply trains squeezing through choke points..These would be bombed to destruction without air cover.
@VajrahahaShunyata
@VajrahahaShunyata Жыл бұрын
Ukrainian pilots and maintenance crews are in America training on F15's-16's and A10's now. They will have an airforce soon...
@dakedakinson64
@dakedakinson64 Жыл бұрын
It's simple: Ukrainians are throwing more soldiers than Russians have bombs and missiles.
@kingspawn2412
@kingspawn2412 Жыл бұрын
That is the big mystery and one million dollar question of the war .
@serviceaccount1406
@serviceaccount1406 Жыл бұрын
Listening to someone who is competent and not ideological (Ukraine will win!) Is priceless. Refreshing to see in the assessment of this conflict
@diegokokoromamirou9680
@diegokokoromamirou9680 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw their pilots wearing motorcycle helmets I knew they would lose.
@marrs1013
@marrs1013 Жыл бұрын
Flying over enemy territory was always dangerous, and it will remain dangerous forever. Costwise it's not the price of the aircraft shot down that mattets, but the damage is prevented made by that aircraft. So a 100.000USD missile taking out a 20.000USD drone is a perfectly reasonable deal, given you potetntially protected a billion USD piece of infrastructure.
@dakedakinson64
@dakedakinson64 Жыл бұрын
You know in most cases multiple missiles are required to shoot down single drone?
@marrs1013
@marrs1013 Жыл бұрын
@@dakedakinson64 I guess you are yright. Let them just bomb the critical infrastructure into oblivion, sending the country back to the stone age. Imagine how much we will save on the missiles! Who need infrastructure anyway...
@dakedakinson64
@dakedakinson64 Жыл бұрын
@@marrs1013 by now it's obvious Ukrainians only protect some areas. For example, Odessa.
@marrs1013
@marrs1013 Жыл бұрын
@@dakedakinson64 They defend what they can. Big country, lots of targets. You can't protect everything.
@robbiejames1540
@robbiejames1540 Жыл бұрын
The problem is, the cost of a weapon system is set by how difficult it is to produce. So while, in the short term, using the missile on the drone to protect expensive infrastructure is the only choice, on a longer timeframe, their rate of drone production will beat your missile production. And then eventually, the drones will start getting through anyway.
@chaosXP3RT
@chaosXP3RT Жыл бұрын
MANPADs (like Strela, GROM and Stingers) are only a threat to low-flying aircraft, like helicopters. However, Russian fighter jets are also being forced to fly low because of Ukrainian SAMs, which are a threat to any aircraft flying too high above the horizon. Destroy the SAMs and the threat of MANPADs is significantly reduced.
@nobodyherepal3292
@nobodyherepal3292 Жыл бұрын
That requisites SEAD aircraft and tactics. Something the Russians appear to be lacking in.
@user-fu2sg4vt3d
@user-fu2sg4vt3d Жыл бұрын
That means destroying a mobile position-changing low range sam systems with low range strike in a environment with many distracting signals and area control and denial possibilities(frontline) or penetrating first level of air defence and destroying s-300 what is possible only using cruise missile/drones, first ones profittable to destroy and easily controllable (via intelligence and/or satellites) and second being slow and also also spottable, not counting Ukraine airforces having its own capabilities, so i personally hope that era of direct military budget comprasion-wars in a form of airspace superiority contestment got ended
@mm-hq4qh
@mm-hq4qh Жыл бұрын
cant emp disable drones?
@agnelomascarenhas8990
@agnelomascarenhas8990 Жыл бұрын
Radio controlled drones are jammed or interfered with EM devices. I don't know if GPS can be tampered. Inertial guidance is not going to be impacted EM devices.
@puellamservumaddominum6180
@puellamservumaddominum6180 Жыл бұрын
@@agnelomascarenhas8990 yes GPS can be tampered
@darkart-mr8wu
@darkart-mr8wu Жыл бұрын
Plus there whole army is divided. Infantry separate unit. Tanks separate unit. Artillery separate unit. Special forces separate unit. Medical troops separate unit. Helicopter logistics unit. Attack helicopters separate unit. Command and control separate unit. Logistical support separate unit. supply chain separate unit. Kitchen crew separate units. Intelligent gathering aircraft separate unit. Attack aircraft separate unit. It's a modern army still using world war II command and control tactics as well as troop layout. They like a lot of small units with high rank officers. Then that where the problem begins it's called the trickle down effect.
@blue387
@blue387 Жыл бұрын
A modern fighter jet requires many hours of maintenance for every hour spent in flight. An F-22 fighter needs about 30 hours of maintenance for every flight hour, Russian aircraft are probably similar. The Russian air force has little experience with SEAD missions or close air support outside of a handful of scripted exercises that look good for cameras. The Russian air force is also dealing with western sanctions, internal corruption and the lack of spare parts and trained crews. Russian pilots also do not get the same amount of flying time as western and NATO pilots.
@cheezeball6109
@cheezeball6109 Жыл бұрын
Sanctions aint doing a dent to Russia...
@david2727
@david2727 Жыл бұрын
Because Russia's army and air force is just like the last matrix movie all hype no substance.
@VajrahahaShunyata
@VajrahahaShunyata Жыл бұрын
Without any woke messages though.....
@black-uh1df
@black-uh1df Жыл бұрын
Yea how's that going for them? (Hint: not well)
@david2727
@david2727 Жыл бұрын
@@VajrahahaShunyata "You keep using that word woke. I do not think it means what you think it means" The movie was a rip off of the original and didn't do anything new that's why it didn't have substance.. nostalgia only can get you so far.
@Zoydian
@Zoydian Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your insightful and professional videos. This is not a cheap propaganda outlet, which is also shown in the comments to the video's. Much appreciated in the 'fog of war' we're currently in.
@jesuschrist2284
@jesuschrist2284 11 ай бұрын
You've seen the tomtoms gaffa taped inside downed ruski planes right? Or the egg cartons inside erg ?
@X00000370
@X00000370 Жыл бұрын
One of the problems with using expensive assets is... they can be destroyed. But if you don't use these assets why did you build them? Germany and Italy had this problem with their surface navy units in WWII. In the end, they were sunk without any strategic value. The bottom line is to use it and win or lose everything...
@AppleSauceGamingChannel
@AppleSauceGamingChannel Жыл бұрын
Right....the hundreds of thousands GRT they sunk before getting sunk or permanently docked themselves had no strategic value. That's why the Royal Navy was so desperate to trap and sink them. Because that's how military decisions are taken, waste resources on fighting assets that don't pose a threat and are essentially valueless targets.
@mikekenney8362
@mikekenney8362 Жыл бұрын
Russia Air Force development was designed for air shows. Real Air superiority comes from supply and maintenance. Not only does it provide combat missions, matériel provides a platform for pilot training. Effective air wing efficiency plainly does not exceed that of Ukraine. NATO engagement would look like Iraq shock and awe
@karlharrison2449
@karlharrison2449 Жыл бұрын
Nothing can fly over Ukraine unless Russia lets it.
@maryginger4877
@maryginger4877 Жыл бұрын
NATO aircraft can not even get off the ground in Ukraine, let alone land. The only NATO aircraft that could operate in Ukraine is the Griffen, and we scrapped all the Harriers.
@save_theworld
@save_theworld Жыл бұрын
@@karlharrison2449 They don't know that. Every single pro Ukraine/NATO person is speculating without knowing what is on ground.
@superpieman5773
@superpieman5773 Жыл бұрын
@@karlharrison2449 so Ruzzia let Ukraine blow up the Crimean bridge? Let Ruzzians flag ship get sunk? Left kerson so disorderly that people thought it was a trap thinking no modern military could be that incompetent? All that was on purpose?
@karlharrison2449
@karlharrison2449 Жыл бұрын
@@superpieman5773 Watch what happens next smart arse.
@chrismair8161
@chrismair8161 Жыл бұрын
The bubble of Self-Armed Stinger style weapons make me scared. You go below 15000 feet? Triple A and shoulder held Weapons?
@LasanthaNawarathna
@LasanthaNawarathna Жыл бұрын
They keep those as backup.
@SNOWDONTRYFAN
@SNOWDONTRYFAN Жыл бұрын
During the early part of the air war, the Ukraine air force did a great job in luring the Russians into ground air defence killing zones where the well camouflaged UA positions would go active at the very last moment to shoot down the Russians, who quickly had to to adapt to that by standing off at greater distances and not engaging in dog fights !
@shepardsmith3235
@shepardsmith3235 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that got missed big time. The dogfighing of previous wars and top gun is almost a thing of the past. Too much going on underneath them and we have completely missed. The F 35 lightening which is the most expensive weapons system we have ever produced. Its a stand off figher/missle launcher tied into the electronic battlefield which now covers the war zone. The F 35 helmets are nex generation and the map of the battlefield with with combatants is shown inside. You should see it on U Tube. So for example when the Russians take off the F35 , over the horizon is notifed and their A to A missles vectored in to knock it out as they take off and land and god knows what else. And of course the drone war which is new will play an enhanced role in the future. I was in the Golan Heights last Summer and saw some of this. Its the future now.
@frankrenda2519
@frankrenda2519 Жыл бұрын
to bad the russian airforce destroyed the ukraine airforce
@shepardsmith3235
@shepardsmith3235 Жыл бұрын
@@frankrenda2519 You absolutely do not know what you are talking about and you should fact check statements like this before you make them. Basically the Russians Air force has been grounded.
@kurousagi8155
@kurousagi8155 Жыл бұрын
@@frankrenda2519 the Russian Airforce seems to be MIA. Definitely not making a major, decisive impact on the war. Probably the most useless branch of the Russian military.
@frankrenda2519
@frankrenda2519 Жыл бұрын
@@kurousagi8155 so they destroyed the ukraine airforce and you call them usless you shoukd go play with your self
@JoseLopez-xu8ue
@JoseLopez-xu8ue 7 ай бұрын
Through Air combat using theory's now needed
@PJ-om2wq
@PJ-om2wq Жыл бұрын
"they've had to change the way they use their airspace"; it isn't THEIR airspace. It's Ukrainian airspace.
@ebenezeramponsah8314
@ebenezeramponsah8314 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why this other alternative idea hasn't been explored or discussed by many western commentators. My view is that Russia initially didn't see this operation as a full blown war but an attempt to simply intimidate the Ukrainian govt while not turning the Ukrainian people against them. So they perceived that an ariel campaign like the ones Americans conducted in Iraq, would have caused so much damage.
@mirzanuh8381
@mirzanuh8381 Жыл бұрын
I know that many western media are propaganda, they tell their people that Russia is weak, corrupt, and many bad argument so they can have people support to send their money for war. You see how much sanctions given to Russia, thousands... but the war is still going on... 🤔
@scubascoob7441
@scubascoob7441 Жыл бұрын
except the tried and failed to take the capitol, it's way more than intimidation
@lordfedjoe
@lordfedjoe Жыл бұрын
@@scubascoob7441 stop talking
@kevin-parratt-artist
@kevin-parratt-artist Жыл бұрын
Error contains the seed of its own destruction.
@hibco3000
@hibco3000 Жыл бұрын
What air force?
@ltv..123
@ltv..123 Жыл бұрын
It’s obvious that Russia does not know what to do. They punched the Ukrainians but they did not flinch. Slava Ukraine
@russeljohn3471
@russeljohn3471 Жыл бұрын
Someone has been watching Peruns channel. 😉
@marsspacex6065
@marsspacex6065 Жыл бұрын
Proper air defence can contain a sub standard Air Force.
@yodaz101
@yodaz101 Жыл бұрын
They have good aircraft.. They are not using them in combined arms.. It's hit or miss... And they seems not willing to engage them .
@KittyKarenpoo
@KittyKarenpoo Жыл бұрын
Russia was on a back foot in the beginning because Ukraine shut down and moved their air defense during the first 3 days of war. Now, Russia has air superiority because the Ukrainian air force can see them half as far and shoot half as far. The Russian pilot is afraid to move into Ukrainian territory due to ground to air defenses. As those are consumed, Russia will be bolder at deploying its air superiority. The solution is twofold: 1) Ukraine needs more ground to air defenses (high altitude). This appears to be coming, according to recent statements from our Pentagon. 2) Saab Gripens. (a poor substitute might be the American F-15). With new aircraft, the shoot window doubles, and the shoot range doubles. That would set the Russian air force well back of the front line, and this is critical for a victory that pushes Russia back to their border.
@johnhopkins6260
@johnhopkins6260 Жыл бұрын
Classic case of Russian air force vs. Raytheon (..."they do have some fantastic aircraft...": As do the Ukrainians... Poland needs to *finally* unleash their redundant NATO-standardized, former East German, MiG-29 fleet to the Ukrainians... *NOW! NO MORE EXCUSES* )
@gregs7562
@gregs7562 Жыл бұрын
I'm hopeful the UK will pass on the RAFs retiring tranch 1 Typhoons in the future. They'd be a step change for Ukraine.
@arturdobrzynski6531
@arturdobrzynski6531 Жыл бұрын
Chill. Dont yell. Those Migs have most likely been sent to Ukraine many months ago, that's why noone talks about them anymore.
@jamiegray6931
@jamiegray6931 Жыл бұрын
@@arturdobrzynski6531 Poland has been using Mig-29 for Baltic air policing as of September 2022, unless they get replacement aircraft in the short term its unlikely they will go to Ukraine.
@jamiegray6931
@jamiegray6931 Жыл бұрын
@@gregs7562 UK officials have been asking BAE at the prospect of upgrading those Typhoons for continued service given the crisis. It's unlikely they would go to Ukraine.
@123Goldhunter11
@123Goldhunter11 7 ай бұрын
Should be interesting to see if France does to Niger what it did to Libya. Land based anti aircraft equipment may be making jets obsolete as hypersonic missiles do with aircraft carriers.
@Peregrine_1
@Peregrine_1 Жыл бұрын
I thought Russia's Air Force was comprised mostly of tank turrets.
@closetcleaner
@closetcleaner Жыл бұрын
Russia is not as much of a military power as I thought it was. It takes several generations to recover from that, not counting the corruption.
@one-metallica4156
@one-metallica4156 Жыл бұрын
The Russian Air Force of 2022 is a broken shadow of the Soviet Union Air Force. During the Soviet Union, Russian pilots were actually some of the best pilots in the world, especially during WW2 and during the Korean War, Soviet pilots who flew the MIG15 were actually a formidable challenge to American pilots flying the F86. Putin has shamed Russia and it’s military and if the Russians actually get rid of him, they have a chance to become a respectable and wealthy nation again. Believe this, the Soviet Union after Stalins death wanted a peaceful co-existence with the West and was respected as world nuclear superpower.
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720
@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 Жыл бұрын
Not so. The soviet union was continually 100% the antithesis of the United States of America, of freedom and assistance and opportunity for most. The russians and chinese have been the oppressing, lying murdering enslaving life-ruining demon-servant enemy of goodness. And Still are.
@one-metallica4156
@one-metallica4156 Жыл бұрын
@@senatorjosephmccarthy2720 true, these hold some answers. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipyVloNoiZejsJo kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6ulgH5sbqucqLc
@aural_supremacy
@aural_supremacy Жыл бұрын
If you haven’t worked it out yet is that they are getting rid of surface to air, defence batteries with drones and artillery then will come the aircraft
@williamrukaria7358
@williamrukaria7358 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Russia wants to risk its airforce in this war... planes are hella expensive to replace even compared to tanks
@Scar626
@Scar626 Жыл бұрын
I think people look at the Russian military with a Western lenses. To understand what the Russian air force's role is vs Western air forces just look at Allied vs Soviet air forces during WW2. It's actually very easy to figure out -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/aZOxo5KBltOqrq8 If you look at some of the infographic videos where they were comparing US vs Russia air forces, you saw a lot more spending on air vs ground forces for the US. This was especially prevalent when you saw the amount of Russian and Soviet artillery and tanks made vs how much US artillery and tanks made. A large part of it has to do with logistics as well. Much easier to get a plane across the ocean than tanks eg. The chieftain had a great talk about it. The challenges from WW2 are pretty much the same as today -> kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqisnaV3pNiMn68
@briant5685
@briant5685 Жыл бұрын
you cannot establish air superiority in a conflict with a vast nation with capable air defences,this is not some type of terrorist or insurgents which the US usually fights and people know it,the same problems US would face if they fought a country with well established air defences
@VOVA08090
@VOVA08090 Жыл бұрын
Натовки уже сменили памперсы вас сша ведёт на убой и вопрос у вас хватит духу с нами воевать и памперсов?!!!
@kurousagi8155
@kurousagi8155 Жыл бұрын
@@briant5685 Iraq was a major military power during the Gulf War. 2003 invasion was not as easy as the USA made it look.
@UnitedUA
@UnitedUA Жыл бұрын
Russia Fails #PutinWarCriminal 💛💙 Slava Ukraine!
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