What Happened to the Old Romanian/Moldovan Flag?

[@superdrinkerb6432]

00:10 Romania adopted these 3 colours way more before Chad, in the middle of XIX century. Chad adopted the flag in the 1960. In fact, Chad contested Romania's right to these 3 colors, but international forums ruled in favor of Romania.

[@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658]

It's so funny that Chad demanded Romania change their flag, instead of changing their own.

[@christopherellis2663]

Nouveau Entitlement

[@micahistory]

that is a chad move on their part

[@ShemPayne]

It was a total Chad move.

[@bobmcbob9856]

Technically chad had that flag “first” in that when chad took it on, Romania had a Communist seal on its flag which served to distinguish it.

[@Nickster292]

​@bobmcbob9856 I agree but also the flag was used similarly before, way before.

[@ivansilviu7481]

Great video.Small corrections, the "eagles" present on the Romanian heraldry in the video are actually aquilas and in 1859 the Ottomans had no hand in the 2 principalities uniting

[@cristibrad6742]

thank you, I can not believe, with pictures in the video, that he could not see that about the polish eagle or the hungarian crow (black eagle so I make joke haha). Heraldry to me looked closer to Byzantyum (east roman) style rather than germanic.

[@abradolflincler726]

Matthias Corvinus was king of the HUNgarians, and Corvinus comes from the Latin word for crow...

[@costinel57]

I have to say that your pronunciation of Romanian names is very good, congrats!

[@seaman5705]

1859 Unification was inspired and encouraged by France , not by Ottomans . The goal was to have a unified state to oppose the Russian influence and expansion in the zone, after the Crimean War . Russia was already expanding here since the beginning of 18th century and was targeting the mouth of Danube river as a step on their advance towards Constantinople . Later they claimed to protect Orthodox Balkanic people from the Ottomans . In 1812 they annexed eastern half of Principality of Moldova which became Bessarabia and now Republic of Moldova . Romanian Principalities were invaded at least 10 times by Russia until the end of 19th century . They were even declared Russian Protectorate at a point .

[@allah547]

Exactly 😊

[@sticlavoda5632]

A couple errors. The 1821 revolution was not against the Ottomans, but against the Phanariot greek elite which it did, ultimately, succeed in deposing (although it was mostly a change of the times). And, very importantly, in 1859 Wallachia and Moldavia united IN SPITE of the Ottoman Empire and frustrating it greatly, because the Ottomans had only influence on paper in the region. There was an election for Alexandru Ioan Cuza, the Domnitor first elected in Moldavia and then here, in the south (I am from Bucharest, a city he turned into the capital). It is quite a major mistake, since under him we see the change from Cyrilic to the Latin alphabet, a massive Agrarian Reform, Secularization and the basis for a constitution which his successor Carol I would adopt. The eagle raven with the cross in it's beak is a Wallachian symbol strictly, extrapolated through conflation with the Roman Aquila into a symbol-at-large for the country's Latinity. Semi-independence already existed. Vassalage does not mean functioning as a federal constituent or governorate or whatever, but it relates to an independent country whose external policy is controlled and which has to pay tribute. But the Ottomans largely did not meddle in any internal affairs, they didn't even pass through here. Proof being the very very many periods where we switched hands. Look at any mapping video of any major conflict in the Balkans during the Ottoman period and you will see how, dozens and dozens of times, these "vassals" were to ally themselves with Poland, Austria, Russia, the H.R.E, etc. The flag was never given by any foreign official, they had no right to involve themselves that way, it would have been seen as quite unnatural. As if the Communist states of the Warsaw pact had their symbolism given to them by the USSR, which widely was not the case (and this is quite a faulty analogy, because satellite states bore less freedom than the Danubian Principalities!). Rep. Moldova is a region we know as Bessarabia. It is not the Moldavian heartland but a border-region. It bears the name of the Wallachian founding dynasty, rather than any Moldavian element. Mostly since it initially was a name for the coast, nowadays known as the Budjak region. The name somewhat migrated to encompass northern regions east of the Pruth as well.

[@fuguthefish]

And who was sending and controlling that Phanariot greek elite? Ah yes, the Ottomans.

[@sticlavoda5632]

@@fuguthefish By the time of the revolution they held a grip on all elements of Romanian political, cultural and social life. It wasn't a revolt to eliminate Ottoman influence but to regulate Phanariot hegemony.

[@thedamnyankee1]

Bessarabia et Romania!

[@Ciprian-IonutPanait]

The Phanariot were greek but were islamised greeks that were part of the ottoman empire government so it was against the ottomans

[@Se2n67g9r]

Lol. And who do you think put the phanariots in power in Romania? The ottoman empire.

[@mimisor66]

9:09 funny to say that in 1859 the Ottomans reformed the area. Factually, the Romanians profited from a loophole and elected the same ruler /domnitor in both Principalities. The Ottomans had to grudgingly accept the situation.

[@wallachia4797]

"Loopholes" like these don't really exist in international politics unless you can enforce them. The Ottomans didn't accept the new status quo out of some feeling that they have to respect international law, but because it was beneficial to France, Britain and Prussia which enforced upon them the "loophole" which you speak of.

[@cristibrad6742]

The top dogs in Europe were in favor, even if The British Empire was trolling, France made up for that. The Ottomans, after Crimea and the Ruso-Romanian forces commanded by king Carol I (post mortem named 'of Romania' house) crushed the turks and bulgars, went into full cope mode and wanted as much distance from Russia in the Istanbul region as possible. They said, let the russians deal with romanian revolts, we had centuries of it not being productive. They kept to taking taxes and bribes as a result, but the bier was out for full conqust and what that entailed. The ruso forces were beaten, then the tzar was like, ok king Carol, you go in with your army and whatever was left of the tzars forces that you think you can rally, but make sure Russia gets the international renown.

[@MMerlyn91]

11:58 It's split between Romania, Moldova AND Ukraine, there is a significant Romanian/Moldovan population living in Ukraine, in the Cernauti and Odessa regions that have been thoroughly discriminated by Kyiv for 33 years now.

[@th3rm4l__]

Your pronunciation of Romanian words is really good.

[@wojtekpolska1013]

The reason Moldova is split from Romania, is because what is now Moldova was stolen from Romania by the USSR, being directly annexed into them, while the rest of Romania was a puppet state

[@iscse]

Moldova was split by the Ottomans in 1812; in 1918 Romania attacked Russia and annexed (with violence) the part that used to be in the Russian Empire and in 1940 USSR recovered its territory.

[@iscse]

​@soumyajitdas1729, if you claim Moldova was independent "somewhere between 1916-'18", it means you also believe Crimea, Donbas republics, Kosovo or Lakota used to be independent for a short time.

[@cristibrad6742]

@@iscse the huns and germans would be like, 'Mackensen destroyed the romanian army and spoiled the capital, and you mighty bear say you lost to some french military mission trained peasants?' How is that for 21st century irony at its finest.

[@cristibrad6742]

@@iscse oh babby bot, crimea was for most of the millennium the Krimeean Khanate. Unless you accept that Peter 1 and Catherine the (not so) Great were heirs of Genghis Khan . Funny that you slipped Crimea in your script, as Moldova followed soon after the Crimean subjugation on the road to Constantinople.

[@iscse]

@@cristibrad6742, Crimea used to be a Greek colony; it was once part of Cuman, Avar, Hunnic states; after we throw away the current populations who should we settle there?

[@superdrinkerb6432]

02:50 Michael the Brave, not the Great 😁

[@harryp3963]

Thank you dutchman, for teaching me/us many details about our flag! This was a very well presented tutorial and enjoyable to watch. 😊👍

[@porphyry17]

Transylvania is known for not having Romanian symbols on its coat of arms. but the German-speakers and Magyar's speakers appear. 1. the mythical hawk(black bird with an orange or red beak), called the Turul, that guided the Magyars on the steppes. 2. the Szekely blue sky with the crescent moon and sun. 3. the 7 Saxon fortresses(usually red on yellow background. or yellow on green background) 4. the red Austrian imperial strap. this is why the 1784 revolutionaries wanted to put eagles, lions or women with falxes on there. as there was no real representation for the Romanians who were 1. the natives and 2. the majority. speaking of, "Transylvania" is the latin translation(which was used by the Magyars in their documents since the beginning) of the Magyar "Erdely"(erdo-elve, land-behind-forest) showing the colonial element of the region. but this can be said for most Romanian regions, their delimitations and names were influenced by foreigners. Banat and Dobruja have slavo-bulgar legacy. Bukowina has austrian-ukrainian legacy. Moldova germanic. Bessarabia cumano-russian. Crisana romanian. Maramures romanian-magyar. Timoc romanian. and so on. i don't know, maybe we should just rearrange the province into "Agathirsia" or something and give it new borders. we might counter slavic and uralic imperialists that use pseudo-history and chauvinism to divide my country. anyway, going back to the subject. the 3 colours the Romanians have are known as "the boring colours". blue being the sky, red being the blood and yellow being virtue. and yeah, they have basis in historical flags and are attributed to regions as well(wallachia-blue, moldavia-red, transylvania-yellow). rep. Moldova is Romanian land so it has the tricolour, the local auroch animal and the all-Romanian encompassing animal, the eagle.(during the Dacian times it was the wolf. though the eagle was also important)

[@PopescuSorin]

you forgot to say that the Republic of Moldova was part of Romania until 1945

[@segarcea4106]

*1940 The Kingdom of Romania ceded Basarabia to the Soviets

[@Se2n67g9r]

​@@segarcea4106you mean the soviets gave Romania exactly 4 days to evacuate Moldova or else...

[@radudaniel7136]

​@@segarcea4106well yeah, and in 1941 we took it back by force. But I disagree with OP, we lost it in ~1944 a bit before we switched sides.

[@segarcea4106]

well yeah, that doesn't change the fact Romania ceded it

[@Se2n67g9r]

@@segarcea4106 you make it sound like România gave it as a gift. Nice straw argument. Try harder.

[@gabrielc6252]

Long story short: Moldova was a part of Romania

[@andreidiaconu8530]

Yeah for only 22 years, which is practically nothing. They've been part of russia for about 200 years, including the soviet era.

[@cristianflorinanghel2833]

The horizontal variant of the flag looked way cooler. I wish we would come back to that.

[@AyubuKK]

These are quite the cool flag designs.

[@alexandrub8786]

He coolest one is the one he didn't show (the Moldavian War Flag)

[@brav0wing]

You have failed to mention the modern Romanian coat of arms that includes the 3 principalities (including the Moldavian Aurox).

[@prywatne4733]

Fun fact about aurochs: the Polish word for them is "Tur" (which you can see at 1:57 at the top) and this word is actually an exact cognate with Latin word for bull "Taurus"

[@radudaniel7136]

In Romanian the normal ox is also called "Taur"/"Bizon". Never heard this naming "aurochs", but might be archaic. Romanian has a lot of synonyms for every word, usually one coming from latin, another from slavic and another from greek/turkish/german. Some of them easily get forgotten as people pick the variant they like the most and stick with that.

[@cristibrad6742]

in romanian, that now mythological cow is called 'bour'. Bull in romanian is called Bou and a very popular swear word in car traffic ^^

[@Claudiu_Dumitru]

Bedankt voor de video.

[@QuinnFisher-j6y]

Still waiting for Moldova to reunite with Romania in 2024

[@pitonsti]

Here we go again... It might sound surprising but Moldova IS a part of Romania already. There is no such state nor country as Moldova. It simply doesn't exist. It's what Russia wants you all to believe. The principality of Moldova (what was left of it after it was carved by neighbouring empires) united with Valahia in 1859 to form the skeleton of the modern state of Romania. Republic of Moldova is the ex MSSR - a pseudo state created on the 2nd of August 1940 by the soviets on Romanian land occupied and illegally annexed. Even in its own constitution it clearly says REPUBLIC OF MOLDOVA specifically to avoid any ambiguity and legal issues, as Moldova is a much bigger historical region and its legacy entirely belongs to Romania. Therefore even if its form of rule changes into monarchy in the future, it still will be called REPUBLIC OF MOLODVA. By trying to keep it simple, the world just further complicates it.

[@JIZZBAWS]

probably won't happen next 5 years sadly

[@caseclosed9342]

And who will Transnistria join?

[@TextMacKyl]

​@@pitonstiStill waiting for Central Bessarabia to reunite with Romania

[@pitonsti]

@@TextMacKyl Bessarabia is the land of the Basarab family, currently in Odessa region, Ukraine (geographically lies roughly between the Dniester, Danube, R of Moldova and the Black sea). The name was used by Russians since 1813 in reference to the eastern half of Moldova principality that they stole in 1812. Central Bessarabia is the town of Sărata (translated as Salty from Romanian), currently in Ukraine. Do you want a part of Ukraine to unite with Romania?

[@UsualYaddaYadda]

5:26 Or rather a chickenless head.

[@Gulitize]

0:32 I would call it its eastern neighbour instead of northern

[@kebman]

Awesome story! Always wanted to go to Moldova! Been to Romania, only Bucharest, but I also want to visit other places there. OMG I'm so looking forward to go! :)

[@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658]

There are attempts to bring the Aurochs back. Hope they succeed and it will be all over Europe once more.

[@alexandrub8786]

There are no attempts to bring the "bour" (auroch in english) back because they are extinct nw. There is an attempt to replace them with their bovine relative the "zimbru",known in english under many names those being: the Europea bison or the European wood bison, wisent, the zubr, or colloquially the European buffalo

[@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658]

@@alexandrub8786 I have read they are attempts to bring it back by back-breeding is a form of artificial selection by the deliberate selective breeding of existing animals, in an attempt to achieve an animal breed with a phenotype that resembles a wild type of an extinct ancestor.

[@alexandrub8786]

​@@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658so a faux-/pseudo-auroch. A simulacrum of one?

[@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658]

@@alexandrub8786 Yeah, technically it would be a pseudo-auroch.

[@ComradeMeow]

Romanian here. The blue, yellow and red colors of the flag have a very, very old meaning going back to the Dacians and their mythology. The Dacians, of course, had the famous "dracones" flag (later adopted by the Romans as the "draco"), which is the snake with the head of a wolf and it was painted in the same colors. The Romanian tricolor represents the cycle of life. Dawn, noon and dusk, or rather birth, life and death. The Dacians had a very interesting belief on the cycle of life, they mourned when a child was born and celebrated when someone died, because they viewed life as a "struggle," a difficult and painful chore given by the heavens that every man had to do for a time, before earning the right to die and go to the afterlife. So, in their worldview, births were sad and death was seen as good, it was when your labors ended, you fulfilled your spiritual duties and now you get to go to the afterlife and rest and find happiness. The Romanian flag harkens back to that belief and mythology. Also, if you've ever wondered why Romanians are so cynical and nihilistic, this is why. That ancient mythology still carries on to this day in the cultural subconscious, a belief that life is evil and death is good. Fun bit of additional trivia: When there were natural disasters, plagues, famines, or wars, the ancient Dacians would first shoot arrows at the sky as a warning to their god (Zalmoxis, the Dacians were monotheists). If the warning went unheeded, they would hold this athletic competition to select the strongest, toughest, meanest warrior and then they'd sacrifice him by throwing him off a ledge onto a bed of spears. They did this not to appease the god, but to send someone up there to beat him up until he stopped whatever natural disaster he was inflicting on the people. Yeah, we Romanians are that badass.

[@alexg6720]

Foarte interesant. multumesc.

[@rsabinioan]

Bro can pronounce Dragoș Vodă perfectly but completely butchers a simple word like Auroch 😂😂😂

[@ecurewitz]

Interesting, thanks

[@bernd_das_brot6911]

Maybe another video, what happened to the Habsburg double eagle?

[@levand3673]

For the next flag change video, could you please do one about why the country of Georgia 🇬🇪 changed her flags?

[@Ciprian-IonutPanait]

7:08 is actually an aquila or a golden eagle inherited through various paths from the romans. In romanian heraldics is sometimes associated with the bearded vulture.

[@e1m1heretic49]

Romanians didn't change their flag because the true chad doesn't call himself chad like a pretender from africa.

[@cristibrad6742]

lies! we joked about making the flag pink and adding a green leaf in the middle (not a maple leaf)

[@RobertMihalache]

Thanks for sharing this interesting video and all the regions have had changes during different invasions or regime changes. That Chad country or whatever is no one heard about them anyway should keep their mouth shut and change their flag and their mentality and to live us alone with our beautiful flag 🇷🇴

[@victor-manuelibanez9993]

I'd like to add which isn't explained the red and yellow are residues to the Roman Legions who founded Romania.Their flags are red and yellow bars which have the same origin as Aragon and Catalunia. The Legions also used the eagle at the head of their troops. The bull has it's links to the Hellenistic bull to which the horns became the symbol of constantinople, as the myth states to the region. The borbon blue I'm not certain about but someone with better historical knowledge to the French Court early on could advice. The ishtar moon and sun are also residue connections to the the tribes of the golden horde, the cumars, khazacts etc from the steps with their influence from haraapa and mesopotemia. The latter evolution which is well explained in the video, but doesn't go to the origins of the area. Hope this brief explanation helps.

[@caseclosed9342]

Romania should have sent Count Dracula to deal with Chad. Dracula is a giga-Chad vampire…

[@cristibrad6742]

Romania should have sent the wrath of Zamolxis down the chadians spines xD. For context, that means lightning storms for the most part as the dacians were gaga about that phenomena that is very common in that geography.

[@dantedetoussaint209]

We had a great history. Moldova was part of us.

[@jaumejoseoranies7948]

In the first part (flag of Chad) the Andorra's flag could be mentioned. The same colors but with and old and traditional coat of arms to be distinguished from other flags. Andorra, a tiny state between Spain and France with Catalan culture.

[@calinnilie]

As a Romanian I'm happy some more focus is given to this part of Europe!

[@tudstat]

Romania has an emblem on the flag as well, similar to Moldova, not sure if in response to Chad's demand

[@ChrissieBear]

Aurochs are not bison.

[@UlpianHeritor]

Romania itself also has an emblem with a Golden Eagle. This is actually supposed to be Roman Aquila, and it symbolizes Romania's Latin/Roman heritage.

[@Austin_Schulz]

They should go back to having the hole in the flag. That would be so cool

[@christopherellis2663]

Museum pieces

[@DariusPopescu]

hell nah

[@ExSpoonman]

6:42 I don't believe that the two-headed eagle is what the Habsburgs are known for.

[@tfmihancea]

The Eagle with a cross in it's peak(Aquila) =/=The black eagle with it's tongue out(Turul). One is Wallachian, the other one represent Hungarians.

[@alexg6720]

in romanian the region Moldovia is called Moldova the same in the word Republica Moldova (Moldovan republic)

[@Monkey-ud8bw]

I presume Chad’s flag is just keeping inline with the French one, just with its own twist. Maybe an episode on it?

[@OneDruid]

There are Roman historical accounts that the Dacian armies were painted blue yellow and red from flank to flank.

[@Zooollieg]

Nice

[@petrosz__]

The Transylvanian coat of arms did not include Romanian symbols. The bird represented the Hungarian Turul bird and the blue color with the sun and the moon represented the Szekely people

[@Monkey-ud8bw]

You say white eagle, I just see a duck.

[@bendthebow]

The auroch symbol is very cool 🐂 Maybe the Romanias could have integrated the circle where the hole was into the flag

[@cristibrad6742]

The romanian coat of arms (stema) has the symbols of Romanian Principalities in the middle of the Aquila, in addition to a crown for being a noble people, the aquila holding a priest baton in reverance of the orthodox church and a sword that does not require explanations . When I first learned about warhammer later in life I was like 'damn, the imperium sure has some snazzy style to it xD'

[@eem8039]

that is not an eagle but the Phoenix , sometimes the pyre apears It doesn t look like an eagle at all

[@romanianisraeli]

Hopefully one day Romania and Moldova will become one country.

[@Se2n67g9r]

Keep the colors but on the horizontal like during the Tudor Vladimirescu revolts and put the dacian wolf in the middle.

[@michaelsalcau6010]

Where did you find jews and how many ?

[@rursus8354]

12:54: flags shouldn't be that complicated. When Romania and Moldova merges, they should use the tricolor only. They should also adjust the blue and yellow to look more like the Ukrainian colors, since that signifies liberation, democracy and a civilized world. The Ukrainian color nuances should be adopted by the entire Europe.

[@revinhatol]

I disagree.

[@cristibrad6742]

Since you said 'dutch' I will give you a pass as dutch history is underrated to what it deserves in grandeur. Small notes in addition: 1. The Kingdom of Moldova used to be for the better part of the millennium the now romanian moldova region and Basarabia stretched to the Black sea as it is natural, with the now ukrainian side not being very populated due to geography. The problem is that when the russian tzars pacified Crimeea and general Ukraine, they were on a highroll and outright annexed half of the Kingdom of Moldova. That triggered the Cuza event and unification of the rest of free Moldova with Valachia (valachia is some medieval german mumbojumbo, it was always called locally, Romanian Country in annals). 2. Out goes the tzar and in with the red scare during WW1. The Kingdom of Romania had a ruling monarchy, government and international recognition by all the top dogs and even the bankrupt Ottoman Empire. So Basarabia went apeshit and voted to rejoin historical romanian lands as they also were more on the white russian side (they had a target on them like the ukrainians). 3. The oil fraternity between Romania and the Z guys got the J guys going apeshit, and since they backed the soviet occupation of Basarabia a few years prio despite the ukrainian holodomors next door, they did all they could to undermine the romanian national government. The guys doing on the streets what the Z guys were doing in their home (assasination of politicians regardless of ethnicity and everything bad imaginable on the streets directed mainly on the J guys), god destroyed by the Dictator and were forced to seek asylum with the Z guys. So easy there tiger with the blame train, its not 100% black and white but those were the times and no sane person wants too ever see again in Europe

[@alansmithee8831]

Hello Hilbert. Such a lot of history for a tricolor. To those who remember the overthrow of the communist regime the flag will always be holey.

[@nonbisco]

Nice pronounciation bro

[@char1721]

Разве ты не видишь? Ты одна на минион 😂😂😂

[@andreijunie1095]

Dreptate justice Fratie brotherhood

[@cristibrad6742]

lets keep it more latin focused: Dreptate = Justitie = justice, Fratie = Fraternitate = brotherhood, Egalitate = equality.

[@vladulupan]

Republic of Moldova is eastern neighbor of Romania.

[@JIZZBAWS]

thanks sherlock

[@micahistory]

romania should adopt the moldovan flag and end the controversy

[@mimisor66]

What you want to say is probably that Romania should put its coat of arms on its flag.

[@Ciprian-IonutPanait]

it is on some versions. on official documents when it comes to the military and so on

[@RaduRadonys]

There is no controversy though, nobody cares about Chad.

[@micahistory]

@@mimisor66 sure

[@micahistory]

@@RaduRadonys it has caused several diplomatic incidents

[@Grey-ub5ds]

Well i like the monarchy flag of roumania change my mind

[@christopherellis2663]

💙💛❤️

[@GreatHunters2]

Hello

[@iSRS28-ov3ps]

ROMANIA WAS THE 1st to use such tri colour flag but in 1948 I think we were forced to change flag to a more communist flag at the force of stupid Russian influence 😂simple

[@surtexX]

There is no such thing as "Moldavia". Only Moldova.

[@sc1338]

Isn’t that just the russian name for that region

[@surtexX]

@@sc1338 no

[@liviuconstantin9960]

Romania and Moldova should reunite and adopt Moldova's flag. It's really cool and representative.

[@Acro1918]

Moldova's flag only represents Bessarabia so nope

[@Ge0rGi.]

💙💛❤

[@Un_pelican_pe_varf_de_munte]

As a romanian I dont have a problem that other countries have the same flag as ours; if we like the same thing why should we change for the sake of “different national flags”? Like the point of the actual world isnt it to be global, everyone the same, with the same rights and value? Tell me if Im wrong.

[@Se2n67g9r]

Because it creates confusion.

[@andreijunie1095]

Chad has to change there flag because ours was first ever if it was in center a simbol so Romania 🇷🇴 Moldova 🇲🇩 Andora🇦🇩 and Chad 🇹🇩 same fag's with fue change

[@ligayamatira2293]

What happen to the Old Philippine Flag please!!!

[@sander...444]

I am curious, are any Romanians jealous of the Moldovan flag?

[@ismail-paine-de-circ]

both are the same for me. btw, romania and moldova are one nation splitted by bolsheviks.

[@Nickster292]

​@@ismail-paine-de-circas a Moldova I agree

[@valentinovidiucornea4525]

Was Vest Germany jealous of the Est Germany flag?

[@mimisor66]

The Romanian coat of arms include the auroch head, so why should they be jealous of the Moldovan flag?😂 You do realise the Moldovans adopted the Romanian flag, but with only Moldova's coat of arms, when it became independent after the fall of the Soviet Union? P.S. check the Romanian coat of arms, its very cool.

[@wallachia4797]

As a Romanian, I am jealous of the Moldovan army flag

[@davidpopovici7784]

Many moldovans, including me want a redesign of the flag.

[@Robi2009]

Weird thing: the horizontal flag has the red on top. So according to the heraldic rules when they switched to vertical design, red should have been put on the left and blue on the right 🤔

[@alexandrub8786]

Some rules are more guidlines

[@iscse]

You should never talk about anything "Romanian" before middle 19th century, because that's when Romania was funded as a state and that's when Romanians emerged as a people.

[@Acro1918]

😂? Romanians exist since the 600-700 I think you're trying to say that they defined themselves in the 19th century Btw youre the mosy obvious Hungarian i have ever seen!

[@iscse]

@@Acro1918 those people were not Romanians, they were Oriental Romans (or Vlachs).

[@Acro1918]

@@iscse really cool, and what the fuck do you think Romanians are

[@Acro1918]

@@iscse exactly, Romanians

[@iscse]

@@Acro1918, yes, the only Romanians are the citizens of Romania - the state that emerged in the late 19th century; before that, the 3 peoples were Wallachians, Moldovans and Transylvanians - 3 people, none of them was "Romanian".

[@ppn194]

Stupid fairy tales.

[@cosmincasuta486]

Red, yellow - colours of Rome. Plus blue - Legio XIII Gemina located in Alba Iulia (Apullum), the only rroman legion which had blue shields! Aquila - from Rome also! The North castrum at Potaissa was ocupied by Legio VII Claudia Pia Fidelis - them standard was a yellow bull on red a red flag - from that region Dragos whent to Moldova, he was the head of the romanian population in nortth Transilvania, the head of the bull! You have to start your heraldic from long time ago! The Gemina had a heraldic sign a lion. Rome payd it's legions witth coins having the averse the emperor and the reverse with the legion marking, in this case a lion. The romanian name for money IS LION! Everybody want to prove things which are very complicated, when the unswer is so simple! Just open your mind!