What Happened to the Old South African Flag?

[@timmccarthy9917]

The answer's pretty simple, dont Boer us with the details.

[@shadesofpurple7283]

😂

[@childofgod.-gn6sd]

Very boering 😂😂😂😂

[@Soggy_SandwichwithCheese]

Boer is the Afrikaans word for Farmer

[@WonderCoral122]

​@@Soggy_SandwichwithCheese and sometimes used as a racial slur towards white people

[@Abbrevious]

@@Soggy_SandwichwithCheese No man. keep the joke in the comments local.

[@mildlydispleased3221]

Next people are going to ask "Why did Germany change its flag?"

[@typiclyjohny5114]

There's already a Video for that

[@cyrusthegreat1893]

Germany has changed its flag so many times. Which historical era exactly are you referring to?! If you mean this current flag 👉🏻 🇩🇪, then this is nothing new to Germany. This current flag has a long history in Germany since 1848. So, it’s not a new design. It’s just a restoration.

[@P4Tri0t420]

​@@cyrusthegreat1893Obviously the transition from the Brown Scum Bags to todays Germanys Flag which as you said was first flown in the German Revolution of 1848

[@BroMan-vm5gt]

​@@cyrusthegreat1893you know what he means, (Austrian painter flag)

[@briansean]

🙄

[@jrd1982]

You forgot to mention: The current SA flag was made in one week's notice to serve as a temporary flag in 1994 for the interim government, prior to the election. However, a new flag was never made to replace it, and it has remained the official flag of South Africa ever since.

[@Clark_Kent_ZA]

Woah really. So thats why we are a country of procrastination

[@qlue7881]

I could be wrong, but I think you may be referencing the actual flag that flew during Nelson Mandela's inauguration

[@siyayanhlapo8900]

And people have forgotten about it, even with the national anthem it was not meant to be Enoch Sontongas - Nkosisikela I Afrika, that's was meant for the transition purpose not permanent,

[@thesmithersy]

@@siyayanhlapo8900 And they only made the current one because it was just too long to play both Nkosi Siekel i'Afrika and Die Stem together.

[@thesmithersy]

@@Clark_Kent_ZA Even Kwazulu-Natal never adopted a coat of arms for about a decade and thus just used the arms of the old Natal Province and KwaZulu bantustan together.

[@FransHattingh]

What a delightful suggestion by the KZbin algorithm! As a South African I must say that your pronunciation of Afrikaans words is *chef's kiss*.

[@historywithhilbert]

Baie dankie! Ek is bly jou hier te sien! Welkom!

[@somethingliken]

​@@historywithhilbert Ek is bly om jou hier te sien*

[@carmendewaal1844]

@@historywithhilbert lees nuutste openbaringe van Judith de Beer, God se Woord van Goud nr. 1389, Afrikaans nr. 1649 ...;-)))

[@wijn_za]

​@@historywithhilbertlol wish I could like this!

[@MistHashira_Tokito14]

Hulle weet net hoe om ons dag te maak

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

My favorite flag symbolism is Bhutan's. The orange half represents Buddhist tradition while the yellow represents civil tradition and temporal authority, with the dragon between them to show their equal importance and evokes the strength of the sacred bond between sovereign and people. But the dragon is of course the coolest part! In Dzongkha, dragon is druk, and the country is known as Druk Yul or Dragon Country. It being white signifies the purity of inner thoughts and deeds that unite all the linguistically diverse peoples of Bhutan. The jewels held in Druk's claws represent Bhutan's wealth and the protection of its people, while the dragon's snarling mouth symbolizes Bhutanese deities' commitment to defense. Why a druk? According to traditional accounts, when the sect's founder, Tsangpa Gyare, 1st Gyalwang Drukpa, began to build Ralung Monastery, there was a violent storm. Thunder, or the "Cloud Voice," is seen as the roar of the dragon. Deciding that this was an omen, he named the monastery Drug-Ralung, adding the word "thunder dragon" to the name. The disciples were known as Drugpa, or "Those of the Thunder." I also love the celestial globe on the Brazilian flag! It reflects the sky over the city of Rio de Janeiro in November 1889 when the Republic was proclaimed. Not only that, but each star corresponds to a Brazilian Federal Unit, so the flag has to be updated every time a state is created or dissolved. When it was first adopted, it had 21 stars and was last updated in 1992 to include Amapá, Roraima, Rondônia and Tocantins for 27 stars. So there are 26 stars for the different states, and another for the Federal District (the capital Brasília). The green and yellow on the other hand come from the previous imperial flag, with green for the House of Braganza (Pedro I) and yellow for House of Habsburg (his wife).

[@Joel-if3ck]

Hey kim

[@GabrielZuc]

Our imperial flag is much more beautiful. Most of our state flags are generic and have no history. The Republic in Brazil is so bad that they didn't even have a flag, you have to copy it from the USA and then make a copy of the original

[@FrancoisBothaZA]

Did you notice that in the old flag, the Union Flag is deliberately upside down, so that none of the three small flags in the middle could claim precedence?

[@vincenttt8289]

It isn't upside down, just flipped horizontally

[@BroMan-vm5gt]

I homestly coudlve never noticed that

[@theduckcompany]

Complete honesty, the dutch flag bit nevergets old.

[@jeffbob1776]

What do you mean

[@Sharp_Stone]

Even during F1

[@televisedpork7993]

Same. I look forward to it on a lot of his videos lol.

[@televisedpork7993]

@@jeffbob1776Everytime Hilbert talks bout the Dutch, he plays that flag bit at 0:43. It’s a running gag on the channel lol.

[@OldRhino]

It's just a pity he's completely wrong.

[@phiwesharestheword]

As a black South African myself I love our current National flag, which I personally consider one of the best if not the best in the world and I can say most white South Africans love the flag and are very attached to it, I personally don’t thing the old flag is all that hateful as long as it’s being used in an educational manner, we have many great symbols in our country and for me they bring some of the most joy 🇿🇦 Great video by the way

[@bobdollaz3391]

Do you like load shedding? Institutional Ineptitude, poor infrastructure?

[@batrachian149]

@@bobdollaz3391 What do you think his opinion on apartheid is?

[@bobdollaz3391]

He should miss it. The murder rate amongst Bantus wasn't as high

[@batrachian149]

@@bobdollaz3391 That argument's more flaccid than your nads.

[@bobdollaz3391]

@@batrachian149 my nads are rock hard,

[@AndileKhoza-fd9dn]

Because it had to, it represented apartheid, pain and suffering for me.🇿🇦 This one represents unity

[@OldRhino]

You were born post 1994 so what pain did you suffer?

[@XhosaChildofGod]

This is such an ignorant question​@@OldRhino

[@PanAfrikkkanism]

​@@OldRhinostupid question

[@ronanstander3022]

As an afrikaaner who often has to suffer the ignorance of people who can't pronounce things right, I just have to say, absolute mad respect to you for going through the trouble of learning the correct pronunciation and getting it on point. Also thank you for all the effort you put into this, despite being afrikaans my parents gave me a very english upbringing, and now that I'm a young adult I realized how little the schools taught about my own and other peoples culture, so now I'm scavenging on the internet for the history of my people and my country.

[@AverytheCubanAmerican]

The Union of South Africa flag was created as a compromise as many descendants of Boers found the UK flag unacceptable after the Second Boer War. The Balfour Declaration in 1926 granted South Africa legislative autonomy, opening the possibility of a new flag. British South Africans wanted the UK flag, and the majority British Natal Province threatened to secede if the UK flag was removed, thus a compromise was reached with the three flags in the middle as the result, and the Prinsenvlag was selected as a compromise because they viewed it as politically neutral since the Prinsenvlag was no longer the flag of any nation. A further element of this compromise was that the British flag would continue to fly alongside the South African flag over official buildings, but this dual arrangement ended in 1957. As you mentioned, they unsuccessfully tried to remove the mini-British flag, and even after South Africa became a republic in 1961, they still kept the flag despite the country having left the Commonwealth (South Africa would of course rejoin in 1994). I'm glad they changed it in 1994, not just because it's better representative of the people, but it looks much better aesthetically, and it truly stands out as a unique design instead of just shoving other flags in the middle. It's one of my favorite flags alongside Kiribati, Seychelles, Barbados, Albania, Nepal, Brunei, Kazakhstan, Bhutan, and Brazil. Kiribati's flag is chef's kiss. The flag is the expansion of the coat of arms of the former Gilbert and Ellice Islands colonial flag, like how the flag of the US state of Maryland is just an expanded version of the banner of arms of Cecil Calvert, the 2nd Baron Baltimore. The insignia was designed by Sir Arthur Grimble in 1932. The bird on the flag is a frigate bird which represents power, poise, freedom and Kiribati cultural dance patterns. The sun rising refers to Kiribati's location astride the Equator. It has 17 rays to represent the Gilbert Islands and Banaba. While the waves are of course the Pacific Ocean!

[@C40gael]

I see you in every yt comment section lmao

[@nixonhoover2]

TLDR.

[@thomsboys77]

Boers are white colonisers who wanted to bring back slavery. Who cares about what they think

[@dannyarcher6370]

And where the hell have _you_ been?

[@Rob-t4z7x]

Avery, I am so impressed by your knowledge but am not sure if you are American or Cuban but if you are American I am even more impressed. From my experience of living in the US many years ago, but even more so now, I found that most Americans did not even know what other States bordered the one they actually lived in. I am a Brit and South African (dual national) and must add that the current SA flag is the best in the World and that our anthem is even better.

[@Og_Killen011]

Imagine going to school back then and had to draw the flag😂😂

[@elnino530]

Somehow I always think of this when I see that flag, must've been rof 🤣🤣🤣

[@jacoblamb3535]

Springbok flag from the 80’s is easily the best.

[@LRMay]

In terms of public display of any old flag is acceptable in an educational context at museums and historical monuments.

[@sphumelelesijadu]

This is not how we were taught the flag in school. They just told us what each of the colours represent. Nothing about the combination of other older flags. Interesting info indeed.🤔 And to answer the question about displaying the old flag, I do think it is a symbol of oppression. It should be kept inside the museum. As a child of parents who lived through Apartheid, it would honestly bring about PTSD for them.

[@ZentioArts]

There alot you can learn on internet then what school can teach

[@johanpetersson2195]

Ptsd for flying a flag? Come on 😂

[@Shujaa24]

​@@johanpetersson2195it's the flag of a regime that was dedicated to oppression. If you think that's not a big deal, go fly the nazi german flag in Israel

[@The_Ghost456]

As a South African, the video is approved of, the comments, eh not so much, julle poesse man

[@hings9529]

😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@ScarletRebel96]

By far my favorite video by you

[@IceFireTerry]

South Africa's modern flag is such a nice design

[@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271]

Too much

[@EKWEETREGTIGNIE]

ugly old one is better

[@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271]

@@EKWEETREGTIGNIE at least we both agree it's "ugly"

[@EKWEETREGTIGNIE]

@@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271 new one looks like every flag on earth the old one stood out with its vibrant orange and bkue and white coloura

[@itsnevertoolatetodotherigh3271]

@@EKWEETREGTIGNIE Nah the new is very distinctive, flags like the Mozambican, Kenyan, Zimbabwe, Uganda have almost the same pattern ..our flag is majestic doesn't look like anything else, while the old flag would compare with Nigeria's flag ohh and France there 3 colour pattern which doesn't really stand out,just say I like it because it once stood for what I believe, new one 🔥

[@krisstarring]

The post-apartheid flag of South Africa has to be one of my favorite national flags as a flag nerd. It's one of the few national flags that have 5 separate colors and somehow still made it work. It was a huge improvement over what it replaced. Honestly, the old South African flag was sort of slapped together, just taking the Dutch flag from the Age of Discovery and placing the British flag with two flags of the old Boer republics on it and sticking them in the middle, symbolic of the British colonial arranged shotgun marriage of the British settlers and Boers in South Africa. Not that I'm going to ignore the elephant in the room with the fact the flag disregarded the majority of native Black South Africans that lived in the country as well. Like you said, it is the "rainbow flag" that represents South Africa as an ethnically diverse state with multiple origins, leading South African anti-apartheid activist and theologian Desmond Tutu to call a new South Africa "The Rainbow Nation."

[@baba.mkhulu]

6 colours...if you count white. 🙏🏽

[@Oatmeal_Mann]

I don't feel represented by either flag to be honest. The older one, well, has the British flag on it. I have to disagree with you on the aesthetics though. I think that the old flag wins best looking flag, even if it was presumably "slapped together. " The new flag is too colourful for me personally I guess.

[@krisstarring]

@@Oatmeal_Mann IDK, I'm generally not a fan of flags with other flags on them. It would be nice if Australia and New Zealand would change their flags. For one, both of their flags look too similar, and secondly, having the Union Jack in their canton suggests that the two nations are still British colonies and not soveriegn nations in their own right as they are today. It would be nice if the NZ flag had some representation of the native Maori population as well which still make up a sizable percentage of the population.

[@thatoneguy7191]

"But not for long!" One of my favourite bits of Horrible Histories xD

[@Alistplay]

6:12

[@bbdanny]

wow, that vertical tricolor proposal looks sick

[@scarletfox2505]

SA went from a nation where the minority oppressed the majority, to exactly the opposite of that.

[@NkosanaMakhubele]

No one is getting oppressed now but racism still exists because of the European settlers

[@bafanamahlatse1923]

You sound ignorant.the minority still has alot of wealth,the have the smallest unemployment rate,go to the best schools,have the best health care. Yes this sounds like so much oppression

[@Shujaa24]

What goes around comes around I guess

[@televisedpork7993]

I always look forward to your videos regarding anything Dutch, cause I love that Dutch flag gag lol 😂😂😂

[@SeanIanThomas]

I think from my past observations the Dutch are much more tolerant of our people in our land. The fact that Afrikaans dialect tags a lot of Dutch isn't representative of the Dutch people as a whole. There are still many fucked up Germans in this country and guess what I say them fuck you'll

[@flextensioncord]

Hey man previously watched your video on Afrikaans and as a kullid I was impressed. Wanted to find out if it would be possible for you to do a video on the history of my tribe?

[@YcRNF-ZA]

i would self like to see that

[@ElleDiablo]

I'm not sure if you changed it because of possible censorship, but i think it would be helpful to the creator to say "coloured" if they're not South African, coz they might not understand...anyway, awe!

[@ethanscott3066]

wonderful video, could you make one on the flags of the Boer republics?

[@chantellsmith410]

I would also love to see that 😊

[@AmandaCalvinNdlovu-sh2tv]

I love white people so much

[@happysoup6649]

​@@AmandaCalvinNdlovu-sh2tvwhy you pretending to be black?

[@NkosanaMakhubele]

😂😂😂

[@OldRhino]

​@@AmandaCalvinNdlovu-sh2tv As you should, yes, because your very existence is thanks to white South Africans.

[@caseclosed9342]

Are you planning in getting married in South Africa, Hilbert? The Wedding March is an interesting choice for this video…

[@RastaAfricanGentleman]

🤣🤣🤣 Afrikaans people going ham in the comments, such a sensitive lot. This was a flag transition video with no hate intended by the content creator yet I see anguish comments

[@chantellsmith410]

Thank you for doing video's about my country, our history and my language. 😊I have never yet been insulted or gotten irritable watching your videos where you speak Afrikaans, if I didn't know better I would have thought you a local. 😅 Your pronounciation is impeccable, I appreciate the research you always seem to do with the content, and enjoy the obvious interest you have for South African history and Afrikaans. I've said this in a previous comment on a video you did about Afrikaans, "knap gedaan".

[@chisom253]

i would've guessed that the Y shape was due to the cross on the union jack. so they just used half

[@dannyarcher6370]

I'm South African. Never heard it referred to as Die Seskleur.

[@ElleDiablo]

How old are you? I haven't heard it, but 1) im not Afrikaans so wouldn't be hearing it in the first place and 2) it was probably called that earlier when it was considered "one of" the flags (say 1994-1996) because there's no reason not to just say the flag now...

[@dannyarcher6370]

@@ElleDiablo I'm 44 and spent a lot of time around Afrikaners.

[@elnino530]

I've only heard it being used once in like gr1 or 2 while we were learning about the flag and its meanings and then never again

[@OldRhino]

​@@dannyarcher6370 Me neither. I've heard it called a lot of names, not all very flattering, but never that.

[@dannyarcher6370]

@@OldRhino And you're Afrikaans so would have been more likely to hear it.

[@Seth-w9q]

I think both flags are cool and the old flag banned kinda dismantles free speech but if you just like the old one better and you get arested for diplaying it, that so uncool.

[@toparadise9641]

It changed from something to be ashamed of to something to be ashamed of 💅🏻

[@ramasodimalete2699]

Well, the other one was worse. It had centuries to change its ways, but kept shiting its bed. This flag is young. It'll do better.

[@ralphehlers849]

The new flag is much nicer than the old one

[@balpreetsingh6834]

What about the south asian origin population in South Africa? Don't they deserve some recognition?

[@Losangelesharvey]

I was wondering the same thing clearly they don’t rank power wise for some reason

[@vbx5028]

They certainly do.

[@JL-ti3us]

One could argue the same for the Cape Coloured community.

[@JL-ti3us]

Coloured and South Asian people in South Africa constantly complain about being forgotten about by the predominantly Black ANC, although the ANC has historically had a number of Indian origin members and Al Jamah, the Muslim party in South africa has historically had a close relationship with the ANC

[@PresidentSquigglyMiggly]

​@@JL-ti3us they had special rights under the national party until 1994. Everyone had it better under the national party

[@Chris-bn1vt]

Interesting is that Transvaal was never known as "die Suid-Afrikaanse Republiek" it was "de Zuid-Afrikaansche Republiek" the Union happened in 1910, when the British Cape colony, British Natal, Oranje Vrystaat and ZAR was united to form the South African Republic. The Oranje Vrystaat and ZAR was never Afrikaans, they were Dutch. Afrikaans only became official in 1925.

[@bradgarling463]

Hilbert good luck in finding the current flag of South Africa that has an orange/red combination! Flag manufacturers don't seem to understand as with the shade of blue in the flag of Tanzania!

[@BrunoRibeiro-po2bv]

Context is everything, I think

[@Lettersfromhome18]

Our beloved flag turns 30 tomorrow.

[@AlexSampies-iw7lv]

i think that the castle of good hope should fly all the flags together to remind south africans of the periods and circumstances we have overcome

[@darkguyitsme]

I dont think this one needs much of an explanation

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

I'm glad South Africa changed its flag. The old one is unoriginal and just doesn't look as good. The new one is easily one of the most aesthetically pleasing flags in the world and is a lot better.

[@Hannodb1961]

That is a matter of taste. The old flag was, and still is, the most beautiful flag in the world for me.

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

@@Hannodb1961 WHY!?

[@Hannodb1961]

@@MatthewTheWanderer Having grown up with it is probably the root cause. My favorite flag designs is a horizontal tricolor with the lightest color in the middle, and an emblem in the middle. So, basically flags like that of India, Argentina, Egypt, etc. Then, the Orange white and blue combination is not only very beautiful (orange and blue being oposites on the colour wheel, therefore being a good combination) but also very unique. Most tricolours are either red white and blue, or orange white and green. South Africa had the only tricolour in the world that had the combination of orange white and blue, making it both simple and unique. I liked the historic flags placed in the middle, it was a unique thing to do, and it tells a story. I also like the way the three flags was organised in the middle. I used to experiment with lots of different combinations, but nothing felt quite so right as the way they were. One would argue that I shouldn't like the union jack in there, but I do, and I have no idea why. I tried to recombine it using different Boer flags in the same configuration, butbit just doesnt work. My giess would be that that is due to it being the flag of my childhood, and so I like it because I like it. But politics aside, I think the flag was simple, elegant, unique and beautiful. I would go to my grave loving that flag. Its quite a pity that people decided to associate the flag with a political ideology, that was actually something that happened post 1994. Before then, the flag was seen as a national symbol above politics.

[@Mabena430]

The new flag looks like shit

[@MatthewTheWanderer]

@@Mabena430 WRONG!

[@Sharp_Stone]

Thaught I heard the National F1 anthem for a moment 🇳🇱

[@LeonKotze70]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Jobe-13]

Yep, the modern South African flag is much better than the previous ones. Looks nicer.

[@ENU-bc9xt]

Woke opinion.

[@JM-qb2kd]

It just looks like a mishmash mess of a bunch colors and angles just like all the other “modern” designed flags

[@Namodeus]

@@ENU-bc9xt Ahhh yes, preferring a normal flag over a monstrosity of a flag that consists of 3 other flags is considered woke. Do you genuinely not understand what the previous flag represented? It represented the racist regime of Apartheid South Africa that had segregation.

[@zealotza]

Nuh uh

[@ReesesChannel]

@@ENU-bc9xtThere. That right there. That demonstrates that woke means absolutely nothing.

[@realdoctortenenbaum]

I think orange, white and blue would be better colors for the Netherlands. Red white and blue are just too common and almost every country uses the colors in their flag in some way.

[@petterbirgersson4489]

It's a mystery. How could it be that they changed the flag?

[@BertusLabuschagne]

Lol 😂 there is no such thing as apartheid flag ! It was called that because it reminded people about those dark years. The SA flag that came out in 1994 was sepose to be a united flag presenting the rainbow nasion as equal, but that is and is still today a falsely corrupted flag of Nelson Mandela,s terrorism and lies to South Africa, He never had any attentions to unite and equal all South Africans in our rainbow nasion. I never believed in the old flag because it didn't represent South Africa but different countries. I will never seport South Africa,s current flag because its government still seport the apartheid unequal racist law. The only difference is that the victims have different skin colors today...

[@elnino530]

They were always happy with the apartheid ideals, they were just not happy with the race in control of it -- or so I've heard many say on twitter

[@Freakcent]

Heel persoonlijk, ervaar ik een toenemende ergernis bij de onzinnige trend, om overal een muziekje onder te gooien. Helemaal wanneer het veel te groots/heftig (afleidend) is, dat moet functioneren als een simpel achtergrondmuziekje. Ik denk niet dat Mendelssohn deze functie in gedachten had, bij het schrijven van de Wedding March. Verder louter lof voor jouw video's!! Zij hebben überhaupt geen achtergrondmuziek nodig.

[@oliviahunter-smith4188]

As someone from South Africa, I’ve been wanting to figure this out for a while so when I saw this vid I got quite excited

[@royliu1409]

6:12 "But not for long" Horrible Histories reference spoted

[@Losangelesharvey]

Hey Hilbert! Does any other country flag have (be dominated by) a political party flag like this ? Thanks

[@solomonngubeni3667]

I am a South African, I love my country and my flag too.

[@elnino530]

It is actually pronounced "boo-r" (like a ghost saying boo and then the "r" like in room), - however many English speakers will say bore since it sounds more natural if they haven't heard the actual word being used before Anyway, great video, thanks!

[@bayapomampare6673]

At some points in the video. They used Botswana 🇧🇼 flag as the background

[@matthewhodgson7388]

I wonder why. This was a bit of a bloody obvious one

[@bullitzfromabove5376]

Better question: what happens if you wave the Old South African flag

[@ZentioArts]

It's a crime sadly you be sent to jail for waving it. That what I know so far idk if it's true . I just heard of it.

[@bullitzfromabove5376]

@@ZentioArts strange, cause I understand about the nazi flag but the South African colony flag???

[@ZentioArts]

@@bullitzfromabove5376 yeah that part is still head scratching to me.

[@hans-peterknegjes616]

I was born in South Africa while the beautiful old flag was fluttering. Living in the Netherlands I still keep the old one and I can't sympathize with the idea that in SA it's forbidden.

[@AmandaVanDenBergh-m2s]

The ANc has distroyed our country

[@Koos-uf6io]

Yes it has

[@lefachris125]

As it should destroy the legacy of apartheid

[@BigPiel]

ANC is kak but I'd much rather live in this south africa then to go back to apartheid south africa

[@elnino530]

@@BigPiel Everyone would rather live now than during apartheid, but that doesn't excuse the massive failure of the ANC... Please vote for change, the ANC is no longer as honorable as it was back then, and it is time we accepted that they've played their part, we'll remember them for it, but new leadership is needed

[@BigPiel]

@@elnino530 I'm not voting ANC? Of course ANC has been a massive failure when it comes to leading the country in the right direction. But the ANC still played a huge part in getting rid of apartheid so I can't just say they just destroyed my country. I understand that the ANC is nowhere near of what they once were and i don't think anyone should vote for them this upcoming election but the ANC is a big reason the majority of South Africa is able to live freely today

[@JohanGebhardt-fg9ik]

No one ever calls it the "ses kleur" or the "reenboog vlag" your facts are not correct there. We did and still do call the old flag the vier kleur

[@michaelowino228]

Good video.

[@stevebikojnrdaking3115]

But how ANC got their flag

[@kgalalelolesiane]

You speak Afrikaans so fluently dude. Teach me your ways I struggle speaking Afrikaans in school so I really need the help.

[@DeanO71866]

He is close with the pronouncing the words, but there are a few hiccups. So I wouldn't say fluently, but close.

[@Jeroeny]

4:12 why is the African National Congress flag in the wrong color order? Dankje.

[@armandslabbert5493]

Whether it is reversed or not, it is the the addition of the colours of Umkhonto we sizwe(ANC spear of the nation) into the old Boere vierkleur(old boer republic colours) I guess they swapped the order of the ANC black/green/yellow/ so it would fit with the vierkleur green/white/(red-blue) instead of being black/green /yellow/green/white(red-blue) I think

[@samuelodoi5545]

What other groups did they mix with

[@johnphillips1683]

Lol, not sure bicycles were around in 1652 🤣. Good pronunciation of the various Afrikaans and Dutch words, though!

[@Alistplay]

6:12 loved that Horrible histories reference😂

[@alansmithee8831]

Hello Hilbert. Who said all those old flags were a Boer? This flag is like a flag nerd's dream. It is sort of pretty too, or am I just too much of a flag nerd myself?

[@steven3837]

Damn, I'm South African and didn't even know this.

[@sbongadlamini388]

Ah take me back to the good old days of Vorster and Verwoed🙄

[@brynlowe2408]

Everything has to change in South Africa. Everything must be destroyed. 😢

[@superlight575]

I don’t know.

[@artificialanimeuniverse5063]

Ngl I like the current one more than the old one!

[@dcrggreensheep]

The old South African flag also included the pre-Northern Ireland Union Jack

[@glennfolau6959]

As a New Zealander, I am glad that the South African flag has changed, the old one just reeked of colonialism, and a sad and complex history. The current South African flag is brilliant, and I see many "Saffas" display it with pride. I was a proponent of changing the New Zealand flag, it too reeks of colonialism, and is perhaps outdated. We are a sovereign nation in the South Pacific, and our own flag ought to reflect that.

[@thomsboys77]

Well, your country voted No so get over it

[@glennfolau6959]

@@thomsboys77 Not as simple as that.

[@glennfolau6959]

@@thomsboys77 I certainly didn't vote to retain the old flag, I suspect the next generation will vote to change.

[@thomsboys77]

@@glennfolau6959 Yeah, keep coping 😂

[@thomsboys77]

@@glennfolau6959 Doesn’t matter if you didn’t, the majority of you still voted to keep it 😂

[@parmentier7457]

Please do why France flag change its color?

[@gerhardtnell5541]

Please note that this new flag represents the demise of a once wonderful country.

[@mikehart5619]

I think that the current SA flag is really well-designed. IMHO, in a historical context like the castle, it is ok to display the historical flags. I'd have a similar attitude to the display of CSA flags in the United States. In a museum or battlefield, yes. Otherwise, no. However, I'm not a South African and don't know if the apartheid flag would have the same meaning and viseral response as the Nazi flag would in modern-day Germany. In that case, maybe it's best not to fly it outside.

[@worldkat1393]

As a South African, seeing someone use the flag is no different then seeing them swing a swastika. Its disgusting, it will get you shot.

[@YcRNF-ZA]

but i'll fly it anyway

[@worldkat1393]

It does help when racists wear it so proudly, makes you easy to find and deal with.

[@emmerentiagroenewald3694]

Have you ever tried to draw this new thing?? Impossible.....😢

[@GryffieTube]

As correctly stated in the video, the current South African flag was designed by Frederick Brownell. However, according to Brownell, the colours of the new flag have NO OFFICIALLY ASSIGNED MEANINGS and he NEVER ascribed any specific symbolism or meaning to the new flag himself. Brownell's stated intention was that people take their OWN meaning and interpretation from the new flag's design. I would agree that the colours and design of the new flag have obvious similarities with related historical symbols but no matter how similar, specific historical associations is not what the flag's designer intended. You are supposed to assign your own meaning and THAT is what makes South Africa's flag so inclusive and unique. I prefer, to respect this idea, that everyone is entitled to their own interpretation, rather than try and assign definitive meanings as the video is attempting to do. The suggestion in the video that the red in South Africa's new flag is somehow a mixture of both the Dutch "Prince's Flag" and the Union Jack is unofficial and purely interpretive, and in my opinion a bit of a stretch. Colour interpretation is highly subjective so I would love to see precisely how someone arrived at that conclusion. I could equally, or perhaps even more reasonably, speculate that the designer had crimson and chilli available on his paint pallette and decided to go with the chilli because it doesn't clash so much with the green, virtually right next to it. Red and green are exactly opposite on the colour wheel, any artist will tell you that the combined use of red and green can therefore be visually jarring, OR perhaps he just didn't want it to look too much like the logo of an Italian pizzeria? That being said, just like the old National Party assumed the then national colours into their own party political symbols, I find your interpretation that the inclusion of the ANC party colours into the flag were deliberate, unfortunate and equally controversial and potentially divisive. Political party symbols have no place on a national banner, just like some would argue that colours associated with South Africa's colonial past should not appear on South Africa's national flag either. By your same reasoning I could also argue that the inclusion of green, gold, red and blue represents the Democratic Alliance (DA party) or that the red, white, green and gold represents the Inkatha Freedom party, and why is the VF party colours not fully represented? Far worse, one could argue that the inclusion of red, white and black in the flag represents Fascist- or Ultra Nationalist movements like the AWB or that the red, green, black and gold represents Julius Malema's, equally offensive, EFF party. No, I think it is divisive and dangerous to assign any ideological or party political meaning to the colours in South Africa's national flag, but the flag's multi-colour design does not have to present such a dilemma. I would argue that, if colour symbolism is so important, there are alternative and more appropriate meanings to choose from. Of course, in the spirit of reconciliation, anyone can assign whatever meaning they want, the above is simply MY opinion. The meaning of the Y-shape in the design is also merely someone's individual interpretation, probably by someone who is Anglican. Anglicans make up up a mere 3-4% of South Africa's total population so the idea that the prominent Y-design was intended to somehow represent the Anglican faith, while the vast majority of South Africans are in fact protestant, is absurd, where are the protestant symbols? Of course, if you happened to be Anglican, then why not? You can assign any interpretation you want, just not definitively like in the video. When Brownell presented one of the earlier designs to his family to guage their opinion, his daughter Nicole noted that the design strongly resembled the "peace sign", that Christians interpret as a symbol for the upside-down cruxifiction of early Christians, and may thus be seen by many South Africans as highly offensive. Brownell subsequently modified the design into the more "dynamic" Y-design that we see featured in his final design today. As a side note, South Africa's current national flag was officially intended to be only temporary during a period of major political transition.

[@scooterbois4177]

when i heard the dutch national anthem i just thjought of the 2023 F1 Season with Max Verstappen

[@WilmereeBezuidenhout]

How are we supposed to teach our youth of the past when we destroy the evidence of our lands history?

[@bafanamahlatse1923]

Which evidence is destroyed

[@WilmereeBezuidenhout]

@@bafanamahlatse1923 Remember the vandalism of memorial statues?

[@bafanamahlatse1923]

@@WilmereeBezuidenhout I think this is all about perspective.i don't agree with vandalism.but removing some of those statues is necessary. Let's look at Rhodes for example.he might be a hero to White south Africans .but to the African population he was a colonial English administrator. It's like name changes.i grow up in a village named bakenburg.noone there speaks or understands afrikaans.but the area was named by an afrikaner.weve called it garamohoshome .was it erasing history for the whites to name the area after them ? . Or was it erasing history when Germany removed all nazi symbols and renamed things .

[@enginetension]

The old South African flag is and will always be my flag.. The only thing that has to go would be the Union Jack - that is the only part I never liked.

[@shanicejones8332]

💩

[@Ruhann-Vanzyl]

As a South african, it's nice seeing our old flag again. I miss it.

[@shanicejones8332]

💩

[@MistHashira_Tokito14]

A famous South African singer got locked up when he showed the old flag in public

[@zinzincoetzee1934]

Jimmy Nevis

[@wijn_za]

Ima saffer born in the eighties and this is a cool video about our flags.

[@OldRhino]

You are mistaken. It isn't the Dutch flag that was used, it was the Vierkleur.

[@Sgffhl]

❤ thanks 😊

[@ThomsoyaWires-mb3wk]

Amazing research.

[@pholelamapeyi4589]

research is nothin but kak ..!! our flag has nothin to do with the dutch or English flags ...our current flag speaks to the diversity or our country ,,,from what our country was to what it is now... this whole video is bullsh***....

[@jst4572]

Without watching this video I know exactly why it changed. One word. Apartheid.

[@andriesdutoit6524]

Is the 68/69 I think sugestion not the basic idea of the current Dorp Orania flag?

[@mrbrown3748]

Sheldon cooper presents fun with flags.

[@saddammall3337]

People should not erase history...its educational...leave castle to fly them...and leave monuments...the jews let the camps stand as reminder....we Africans have some questionable pollution's....they removed the rider in Windhoek why not let it tell history even if cruel...

[@bafanamahlatse1923]

Why did they remove swastikas in germany.nazi symbols where removed.was that " erasing history"

[@tebogomochela9074]

the colours on the south African flag represent 3 political parties that will forever rule in SA Black & yellow = ANC RED = EFF BLUE = DA the green Y part represent us the people, the voters , the citizens

[@SeanIanThomas]

Stupid question. Why did it change. It fucking represented all Apartheith in our past

[@gbone7581]

geez, you cant even spell it?

[@sethunyac]

I think you keep using the flag of the republic of Botswana as the background

[@wandaworx1217]

I USED THE OLD FLAG AS A DOORMAT UNTIL MY CAT TOOK IT.

[@Steveman766]

South African here, love your vibeos keep it up.

[@bonnaventuremwela9859]

🤯🤯🤯 Why didn't they teach this in South African schools???

[@windsurfer8824]

Afrikaans is just a dialect of dutch. It didnt change much or "evolve into its language". This video is biased towards the dutch and the dutch speaking whites.

[@KingEmjay3355]

😂😂😂 go back to groinger

[@OldRhino]

It's not a dialect of Dutch, it is recognised as completely separate language, as it should be.

[@robert-trading-as-Bob69]

The old SA flag was controversial because it was a compromise, in fact neither the Afrikaaners or English-speaking citizens were happy. The new flag was derided as looking like Y-front underpants by some locals. The mixing of the red and orange to represent white SA shows how little the ANC knows of the completely different cultures of the white tribes here. It is typical of politicians to whitewash history, the Afrikaaners wanted the Union Jack removed, and suppressed the fact that people of many nations fought against the English in the 2nd Boer War, telling us that only the Boer fought the Khakis. (From the colour of their uniforms: khaki.) Banning the old flag is an attempt to change our history, to whitewash a significant period of SAs timeline. It also goes along with the new racist laws enacted here, prohibiting white citizens from getting jobs that they qualify for through hard work and study, and giving the job to anyone else, provided they are not white. It's called Black Economic Empowerment. That is the reality of SA today. This sound very right-wing to you? I'm not. I believe in SA, but one that should respect ALL of it's citizens instead of repeating the mistakes of the right-wing National Party. Forget Apartheid, welcome to Blackheid, or Blackhate if you wish. You won't see any European country standing up against the new racist SA though, because then they'll be called racist by a black government! The real change here in SA is in the peoples attitudes to each other. We show more respect to each other every day, helping to heal old wounds and rebuild our country from within, no thanks to our inept government.

[@MigaelDuPreez]

F1 fans hearing the duch national anthem 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@mhtmht3604]

Thanks for the education

[@wisedoge-p5c]

lol i go to swellendam every holiday and never new it had a flag