What Happened to the Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean? (Evolution, Thickness, Price)

[@ID-Guy]

Calling this one a "Case Study" - see what I did there? The Planet Ocean is a favourite of ours but it has changed so much over the years and seems to continually get bigger, wider, thicker and more expensive. Will there ever be an end to this? 🥃

[@JimWestrich]

Absolutely on point. Actually a PO in grey titanium was my first diver. It looked gorgeous and given the lightness of the titanium, it was easy for me to overlook how it actually wears .. but meanwhile sold it for others and the thickness was one of the reasons. The sad part about it is, that I'm left with the impression that Omega's marketing and the outer appearance (design of the watches) led to a form over function situation (i.e. applicable function in daily use not the 600m WP)

[@conorbarry1928]

Hahah brilliant !

[@certainly2509]

The other question is: are people's wrists getting larger to accommodate these bigger watches? No,from a biological perspective. Andfrom an economic perspective, people's wallets are not getting fatter!

[@drfathertime]

@@certainly2509 well it kinda depends on how you see it, are people getting fatter? Most definitely yes.

[@dingodave3966]

This is the end, hold your breath and count to ten. Haha, see what I did there…😂 Mr IDGuy, you rock. Plane and simple. ❤❤❤

[@Thomas_Burnett]

When I first saw the 2500 Planet Ocean with the orange bezel and orange strap I fell for it immediately and wished that I could afford one. It was perfect in size and the quarter Arabic numerals looked beautiful. Recently I saw the ceramic Emirates Team New Zealand Regatta timer online and couldn’t believe that it was 19mm thick. Bonkers! I love the Planet Ocean. It’s my favourite Omega Dive Watch. So much nicer than the SMP300m. I wish they would slim it down a little though. Ironically, saying that, I love the Ultra-Deep on the pass through strap but, that is a different beast altogether. Bring back the classic Planet Ocean for us Omega. We want a wearable Watch. Yet again, an excellent analysis of the topic boet. We need more puns too! 😉 Keep warm my friend and we’ll speak soon ✊

[@ericl755]

The best is the 2500, quantum of solas. Perfect size (42mm with acceptable lug to lug) , perfect bracelet, mat dial, nice presence and it s a James bond!! A futur collector as the 1st PO+007.

[@achuck4321]

Agree 100% with this analysis. My two cents: anyone can make a watch with any feature if the size constraints are removed. It takes a skilled company to create a svelte watch. Omega is skilled, but a bit lazy. They really need to focus on refinement now. Heck, if Longines can create slimmer GMT’s with the Spirit Zulu Time, why can’t Omega. A three hand Planet Ocean should be not be thicker than a Rolex GMT.

[@ID-Guy]

And it will only take a few adjustments to "facelift" these models and give them more life. Sometimes the best thing to do is to look back to where it all started and man... imagine using all they have now but consider the original 42mm & 45mm models as the baseplates (20 years later?) Lume the numerals, trim the cases, adjust the proportions... the community would go nuts! Well said here Chuck and thank you 🥃

[@garyboyle695]

GMT the same thickness as a true diver? You're having a laugh.

[@alvinmick218]

I thoroughly enjoyed your analysis regarding the size trend of the Planet Ocean. Perhaps an unintended consequence will be the renewed interest in their more “vintage” models of that line. Well done as always 🥃

[@ID-Guy]

Thank you Alvin and absolutely! I think more and more are heading towards 2010's pieces in general over 2020 models. Omega has somehow managed to drive many original customers to do it 🥃

[@lightorchestrator]

I do like the bronze gold 300M in the Vintage collection.

[@dukes70]

1000% agree and terrific analysis as always! I’ve always loved this model line but was hesitant in buying because of the wearability due to the overly thickness. Same with the SMP 300, that’s why u love my 2254.50 so much. Maybe I should pick up a 1st gen PO model as well. Sometimes the old ways are just better!!

[@marinlicinaify]

I really want to love the Planet Ocean. I own the 2500 which is actually wonderful, but I still find it a bit too bulky. And I owned the 39.5mm 8800 caliber one, but that one was way too shiny (a watch for a rich kid cosplaying as a diver) - and the proportions just don't work for me, it's thicker than the 42mm 2500, but smaller. If I could wish for anything, I'd love to see a titanium Planet Ocean at around 40mm, and a tickness of about 12 or 13mm. Make it more matte and tool-like, and you can take my money.

[@RichKovars]

I agree completely. To me the best model they have made is the 2200.50 with a 2500D in the back. Bring back that watch with a Liquid Metal bezel and they have an absolute winner.

[@ID-Guy]

Great point about the ceramic shininess too! Matte Ceramic with Titanium would be freaking unreal. Considering their latest GMT combines these two materials and it looks phenomenal... albeit, gargantuan 😆

[@Leftystrat]

Loved my 2500d only needed the micro adjust and it would have been the best omega ever☺️

[@nisbetmba]

Outstanding review and take on the evolution of the Planet Oceans. I love both, with each having its place and expression of what it represents - the modern, more sizeable and ornate with all the proverbial bells, whistles, and options, but also really appreciate the early models that have the simplicity and refinement. Couldn't agree more that there is likely a growing interest in the earlier models for that reason. Omega seems to be doing a nice job of playing to a variety of tastes, but it is pushing the boundary of retaining the identity of the Planet Ocean. It will be interesting if this continues or becomes another model line.

[@georgemoscahlades7473]

Omega produces wonderful watches. They push boundaries and innovate. The issue is that they have to many variations that confuses the general consumer. Collectors might see a model they like but they have probably researched and know what they are getting. A consumer tends to look for a watch they have known through pop culture icons like the Rolex Submariner or Omega Speedmaster. Trimming down he options actually strengthens the appeal. I guess in the end Omega produce what they want. It’s their business and I’m sure they are happy with the results. Rolex, AP and Patek obviously have more mystique today. Omega can’t achieve this status by raising prices. Tag Heuer is producing nice pieces as well lately but suffer from a similar problem. VW ran into this problem with their autos in past years. They were making sedans that were starting to head into luxury pricing. Price alone can’t make you into a luxury item. It’s more important to be the best in your price range. Tudor has hit the sweet spot. Good watches with some heritage and a famous big brother.

[@jh-il5sb]

i have always been drawn to the PO over the SMP300. but i love the first generation models, i started with the orange bezel/black dial 2500 model (like the one in your video on the orange rubber). i was then infatuated and purchased the liquid metal limited edition PO, one of my favorites in my collection.

[@BAF605]

Those earlier dial designs are very attractive, though that could be because we are looking at them through eyes conditioned to the taste for retro and vintage. I'm happy to go along with dial and hand changes but thickness is where they have gone wrong,. Decoration. In house movements, see through casebacks, and Metas taking priority. That's not to mention price which is another matter!!

[@seaweed719]

The 39.5mm version is very wearable. Its thickness of 14mm and lug to lug distance of 45mm make it a highly versatile watch.

[@ID-Guy]

It's a real beauty in the family... Imagine how much fun they could have with this range if they expanded it?? 🥃

[@jspeakman53]

Same could be said of the Submariner. Partly explains the enduring vintage trend. Older designs are often more aesthetically appealing, as Tudor and other brands have discovered.

[@pauldevey8628]

Speaking of big, I love my Seamaster Chronograph. It is thick and large but proportionality balanced.

[@muddy250]

The original 2500 PO, which I still have, was a home run. They shoulda stopped right there, it just got worse with every iteration. Maybe they'll reissue it soon 🤣

[@davidb5720]

I love seeing the PO getting some airtime as I think it’s the best dive watch available ( biased Omega fanboy) 😀 The later ones have grown in every way and this follows the 300M in that way. They’ve lost the original charm and character. The new ones are technical power houses but maybe a bit, clinical? The pricing is off the charts now but this just follows all the brands. It’s pricing a lot of people out of the market. I got in early with my Gen 1 in 2011 and won’t part with it! 👍

[@drfathertime]

Solid ep as always! And I agree, the PO gen 1 with its 2500 was the thinnest, and "neo classic" appearance with open 6 and 9, and almost perfect. But as we always say, there's no such thing as a perfect watch, I mean for the sake of balance, they could've removed that date window and replaced it with 3. I don't need the helium escape valve. And is it just me? But there are just way too many text on the dial! Yes you are totally right about PO going all wonky when they moved to gen 2 and 8500, you see, I really really wanted that all white PO right? But every time I tried it on, it just felt way too huge. It's just toooooo thick. I couldn't stomach it. Also you mentioned that smaller PO that's at 39.5. Have you tried it on? It's very nice, but since it's rather thick... as always, the balance felt so off and top heavy. Lastly, no I don't like chocolate cake lol.

[@ErikL727]

The problem is, the 2500 has been the most problematic movement in Omega's recent history, having gone through 4 iterations before they finally moved on from it. That alone gives pause for many.

[@drfathertime]

@@ErikL727 Well you are totally right about that, but then again it's not THAT weird considering Omega more or less brute forced co-axial into 2892-A2. That being said, as far as I understand it, revision D was a very stable release? Don't get me wrong, I know that co-axial is a great invention within the horological world, what I don't like is that subsequent releases of omega watches are just getting thicker and thicker with the combination of thicker movements and see thru caseback. I mean come on, like PO Oreo at 17mm thick compared to my SMP GMT at 13mm, that's pretty significant.

[@richardjohnson559]

Been reading several comments about the co-axial movements being the reason for the thickness of the 2nd and 3rd generation POs. The 8900 movement is in fact slightly slimmer than Rolexes 3230. So thickness is likely not due to the movement. My guess is overall design, including the crystal and sapphire case back.

[@richardwarren2024]

Excellent analysis. I agree completely. Omega have totally lost their way with the current generation Planet Ocean. For a good analogy, watch the “Taco Town” Saturday Night Live skit - it’s the same kind of excess that Omega is engaging in.

[@DSApOllo8OM]

i 100% agree! although new models, look colors, but still Omega fans prefer the ones from 2000’s to 2012 and im one of them..i bought many of the modern Planet Ocean, but they only long las for 1 year…now i am enjoying my Casino Royale PO . One of the best PO Omega ever released!

[@sanghoonlee5171]

I have the watch in the thumbnail, but in 42mm. It's an absolute gem, better looking and more wearable than anything the current PO lineup. A bargain too, barely $2000.

[@Xavier.B.33]

I tried both 39.5 and 43.5mm ... and the 39.5 wears too small but has a acceptable thickness ... bad the 43.5mm wears really big and thick (even though it wears smaller than its diameter suggests). The planet ocean collection lacks a 41mm with an acceptable thickness and that would be a banger

[@AZadeh-nd8vx]

I found exactly the same. I just don't know why they can't make a 43.5mm or better still a 42mm PO with the same thickness as the 39.5mm PO!

[@matt4590]

This is what annoys me with in house movements. So often they are worse in some measurable way than ETAs, in this case their thickness. If little Nomos can figure it out why can’t Omega?

[@HankEvans312]

Spot on review! I own the second generation 8500 series, 42mm. A bit thick but wears smaller than you would think because of the lug to lug distance. Huge fan of the sapphire case back. IMO, this is the best series, refined look from the 2500, matte dial and bezel, before the size increase, and glossy finishes came in. This watch has barely left my wrist since 2017. I did upgrade the clasp about a year ago to the new micro adjustment one though, and it is now the perfect watch!

[@garcimonte8796]

Tengo ese problema. Es un reloj perfecto, pero le falta microajuste. Podrías darme la referencia de cierre que le has puesto?

[@mt24Carson]

@ID-Guy Thanks much for this particular video. As you may recall I used to own the Gen 1 2500C PO. It is easily the best version of the line. Shame to see the subsequent iterations get so out of hand, to the point of becoming unwearable for many. If they kept it at the original size Omega would still be selling truckloads of them...I dare say it would rival the Sub on many wrists. Cheers and Happy Holidays from Montana. ⌚👍🎄🥃

[@ID-Guy]

I know how much you enjoyed your PO David and thank you for this. It is such a pity that they've gone this way now...where they still are some of the most gorgeous divers out there BUT Omega themselves have somehow turned them into beasts 🥃

[@mchoch4576]

I like the GMT ones, great video and thanks for your opinion.

[@ailo4x4]

I love my first generation 45.5mm, orange numeral masterpiece! It's my daily wear. I would like the liquid metal bezel vice the aluminum one, but that is the only thing I prefer of the later models.

[@B1llR-z4q]

Agree completely. Omega should have never changed the 2500 PO.

[@danieljunior7821]

Love the way they're nowadays !!!!!

[@rcmakingtracks18]

I love my planet ocean 43.5 with orange accents, and a rubber strap, it's a perfect time machine...

[@TurnRiver]

The planet ocean was never a "svelte" watch. The earlier ones tried to pretend they were, with a thinner midcase, but protruding case back The newer ones embrace thickness, and they wear quite nice because of it. The beauty if omega is in the case design. They cannot express this as well with thin case design.

[@davem8836]

Makes me appreciate my neo vintage 2254 even more.

[@6SpeedTA95]

I've got a gen1 PO and it's amazing was on my wrist almost exclusively for 10 years. It's amazingly well built, finished and durable. I don't find it too thick. I do agree the newer generations are too thick, although I'd still buy one. I've got watches from Rolex, Omega, Longines and a few others and still believe Omega builds the best overall piece of the bunch. My hope is the PO will get a little thinner on its next iteration and still provide top notch quality. The current PO is a real stunner but it is thick and doesn't go under a cuff very well.

[@WihGlah]

Love my PO as worn by JB. Still the best looking watch ever created IMHO.

[@Xavier.B.33]

The co axial movements are great but they are a bit too thick. Omega needs to work on a new generation of these movements, and focus on their thickness

[@jmac316]

What Omega need to do is roll out the case changes they made to the NTTD Seamaster across all the SMP300 then do a similar treatment to all their other watches.

[@ID-Guy]

Shorter lug span, thinner mid-cases... it's so simple to achieve and I agree. There's tonnes of refinement opportunities open to them here 🥃

[@Patterson101]

I presently since new have the 2011 45.5 non chrono version. Two services and still happy. Very legible and understated.

[@modernworldiscrap]

In my opinion, the only big disadvantage of omega is its thickness. They need to get closer to their 90s models.

[@ID-Guy]

It's such an odd thing because they can make thin watches if they want to (looking at older Co-Axial models) Why they've felt this need to make them beefier and thicker is beyond a lot of us 🥃

[@Tyler-sl6vg]

I probably wrote on the other video that i prefer my 2531.80 SMP 300 but strangely enough i have a current production 8900 Planet Ocean (44mm i believe) and i think the proportions are great. At the larger case width and due to the domed crystal and bezel the 15mm thickness does not seem out of place. The bracelet on this watch transitions well to a modern dive watch design. I was attracted the the 600m WR. I got other watches for dressier applications. I should be honest tho. I have handled vintage Planet Oceans and modern SMP 300s but never owned or worn them for any significant time period.

[@austinzizzi1142]

The planet ocean is arguably omega most important line because it’s the only link to the original seamasters but omega have completely lost their way with it

[@ID-Guy]

A Seamasterean Tragedy in a way, right? 😉

[@yvelf]

I still like the 39.5mm planet ocean. Its a great watch! The other bigger sizes are just that…too big for a normal wrist

[@jhoag2577]

I have the original and the only down side I have with mine is the crown can be hard to thread. I have stripped it once and had the stem replaced. I had it serviced in 2014 by Omega for almost half the price I bought the watch new. $2300 new in 2004 and $840 service by Omega in 2014. I have the rubber strap then bought the metal band and have collected six Omega NATOs for it. If I sold my collection it would be the one watch I would keep.

[@johnjuarez8005]

So, an Omega service is right there with a Rolex service. I swore I would never take my Sub anywhere else. My Planet Ocean not so much. I have bills to pay.

[@Potatowarrior89]

I always prefer older omega, classic and easy to wear. The new 8 & 9000 series of movement while nice to look at is too big and thick

[@weezkidtube]

A late find on this content but enjoyed it immensely. Wish they will bring back the Liquid Metal but I guess that process was too expensive to do.

[@maitrehg]

The current version is liquid metal.

[@thegorn]

The story of the Planet Ocean is ultimately a tragedy

[@ID-Guy]

Like some of the best stories are, you're right 😉 A Seamasterean Tragedy...

[@mickd4610]

I love my 39.5 as it is is very comfortable with a great bracelet. Solid watch.

[@BigFerg-hf6uv]

I have the original PO big size from Casino Royale and the SMP 300 from the same movie. Im a bit biased but they still hold up today in my opinion. No mess, no fuss just pure impact.

[@panorama4526]

There is no thickness problem. Even the actual 43,5 wears very good, though it is a chunky watch. I have a 45,5 from 2008, and it is remarkably slimmer. But it does not wear any differently. Together with my 41 Black Bay Steel these are the watches I wear the most, they are great. The real problem is the amount of money Omega wants me to pay for these watches. Even in the grey market the prices are crazy. There is no may I buy a PO for more than 5000 Euros. And even then you lose a lot of money if you want to sell. But don‘t forget: Omega sells more than half a million watches a year. To say they make mistakes with their portfolio is questionable to say the least.

[@Silentwitness1978]

I own an orange bezel 45mm from 2011 and wear it on a black NATO, and for me its perfect. I can't really wear a smaller watch they look a bit ridiculous on me.

[@44Magpie]

If you're not man enough to wear this watch then look elsewhere. Thankfully Omega designs watches that can be worn by real men with men's size wrists and doesn't cater to millennials and Gen z with their 6-in girly wrists.

[@garyboyle695]

Well said. They want a dive watch to make them look manly but don't want the actual hassle of wearing a real dive watch.

[@bobotmeister]

the ultra deep is very wearable relative to size. I have the Ti variant and I love it! It being chunky and all just makes me think "more watch" for the price.

[@marcdaniels9079]

Yup. I have one. I love it despite my minuscule wrists. It’s a beast 😅 !!!!!!

[@TariqQureshi-j6n]

metallic hockey puck. LOL. The first gen is the only one to have. I suspect these will continue to rise in value. The LMLE is the best PO ever made.

[@truxton1000]

I mean, I got a Rolex 44mm Deep Sea, I have two Subs plus GMT etc, but the 43.5mm PO is just SOOO nice, it is more flash than the Rolex’es, sometimes that’s fine!

[@mahazroko6753]

Thickness makes a big difference in how comfortable the watch is to wear. I have a pretty slab sided one and on top of it it used to have a protruding crystal and measured at 14mm thick but i changed to crystal so it now sits flush with the case and the thickness is down to around 12mm. It's still too thick and i rarely wear it for that reason, i find myself enjoying my slimmer watches, they're just so comfy to wear.

[@SuperMAYUSAMA]

will you ever consider talking about Pasha?

[@cos-9113]

Agree with everything. Would add that the depth ratings on dive watches has gotten ridiculous, probably mostly because the vast majority of purchasers are not divers. Also, Omega’s new co-axial movement is just too thick, and isn’t really any more accurate than any other movement, and now has a servicing interval matched by a lot of other, thinner and more practical movements. The Aqua Terra, the Omega competitor to the Rolex Oyster Perpetual/Date is now 2mm thicker at 13.2mm (dive watch territory). I think if Omega continues with the co-axial they will just be the really thick brand in the luxury segment. A shame as an 11mm Aqua Terra looks much better than the Rolex, but wears even thicker than its measurement while Rolex, with the more domed case back, wears thinner than their 11mm.

[@miabeatz80]

To give you a point of reference every model Tudor black Bay except for the 58 and 54 are the same or higher thickness than AT, 300m and PO 39.5mm. All while having a smaller diameter. That means smaller face and thicker watch that plenty of people buy. The vintage Brosnan era Seamasters and vintage PO were still at the time larger in thickness than it's Rolex counterparts. If you consider Rolex thickness has slightly increased over the years so why wouldn't Omega do the same? I get that many might prefer a slimmer watch but most who say that aren't interested in the slimmer options Omega offers. I own the 50th anniversary 300m that is the same thickness as the current speedy. Yet people complain about the thickness of the speedy. Doesn't make sense. Omega thickness shouldn't be compared to Rolex IMO.

[@jondavies4027]

What a great honest review.

[@David-ft7xz]

Was the original variant only 13mm? It thought it was over 14mm?

[@stanlob1223]

Exactly!

[@omegawatchfan]

"Aesthetically pleasing" is precisely what the 2500 series Planet Ocean is. I would argue even those models at 13mm would benefit from being slimmer. The current models are comically bloated and clowish looking.

[@hungabastahdeluxe3751]

Interesting & good points. I own a GMT Goodplanet.

[@paulchambers2296]

Love the look of the Planet Ocean, give a 42mm anyday but these are too thick for me, I don’t need. 600m depth rating, 200-300m is more than enough for the majority!

[@paulchambers2296]

Plus at 200m you don’t need the helium escape valve.

[@michaelbradley6488]

I could not agree more.

[@craig2100]

The planet ocean is a brilliant design, timeless. Daniel Craig is afraid of wearing his out of his love of not wanting to scratch it... sad since these are meant to be worn and enjoyed

[@ID-Guy]

Saw that interview too! His OG from Casino Royal (still with Madagascar's DNA in it) - I think with that piece (being quite a collectable) its hard to know what to do with it. But he should just enjoy it... I mean its so good! 🥃

[@Khanh.Nguyen369]

The 45mm PO identifies as a 39.8mm watch. 😅

[@omegafanboyian]

CK2913 , Did you say CK2913 , You did say CK2913 didn't you ❤

[@ID-Guy]

The One and Only 😉🥃

[@americanjedi5721]

For a company that copies everything out of Rolex’s playbook, you’d think they would ditch the Wort by now and have a thinner case🤷‍♂️

[@marktucker8896]

Is this the downside of an industry that is making watches increasing for watch collectors? Are we seeing watches that are designed to look good in a watch box, and in some cases like the ultra deep, not intended to be worn?

[@WestCoastAce27]

This line is as bloated as their catalog. And no taper bracelets. Nice review of the history of the line; some of those earlier pieces are amazing.

[@kevinr206]

I want a planet ocean no-date that is less than 15 mm thick

[@duncanidaho2130]

I'd take the Golden Eye quartz version any day.

[@dirkx2350]

To each their own, bought a 43.5 black dial PO 2 years ago before the price hike. Wonderful watch and fantastic build quality. Frankly, wears smaller to me but i have decent size wrists. Out of all my Omegas, it’s probably my favorite.

[@maynardjoseph]

Omega watches need to go on a diet

[@ID-Guy]

They need to cycle off the steroids, it's never worth it in the long run 😆

[@djdc81]

The earlier Planet Oceans look SO much better than the modern ones. This is the only watch I regret selling.

[@GrumblingForesight]

Same here. I’m keeping an eye out for a mint 42mm gen 1 aka the Quantum of Solace Planet Ocean.

[@svfutbol20]

@@GrumblingForesightI was in Japan last year and found a very good condition 2201.50 42mm and picked it up for only $2800! They didn’t charge tax either because I had a U.S. Passport.

[@GrumblingForesight]

@@svfutbol20 ooh thats a gorgeous beast! Wear it in good health

[@AliasHSW]

Same with the original release circa 2000 of the TAG Huerer Link series. Then it evolved and devolved from its original release.

[@slashdotism]

I've been saying this for years. Omega needs to make a Planet Ocean 300. No HEV, monochrome palette, 41mm, closed caseback, maximum 13mm. Ceramic dial and bezel insert. Just make the best possible version of the OG Seamaster 300. No faux patina, just use the design language of the OG 300 and make a modern professional diver with it.

[@Thabosshoss]

Here here! Huzzah! What this guy said! 👆

[@Gogugogugogu]

Oh, so just like my Steinhart Ocean One ceramic 42 mm😉

[@David-ft7xz]

Absolutely. If they did that - combined the best elements of the PO with the best elements of the 300 - they’d have the dive watch to beat all dive watches.

[@corner559]

why tf would you want a closed caseback? Worst idea ever.

[@stocksxbondage]

@@corner559guys are obsessed with slim and small at all costs… they basically just want every diver to be a Tudor Pelagos. Very nice watch! But boring. Nobody that actually dives for a hobby takes anything over $1000 as the crystal and case gets destroyed, you’ll have to service it, and check its water resistance frequently. Some folks are struggling with accepting that we’re spending thousands and thousands on toys/jewelry, not a “tool”. I think every watch should have an exhibition case back! Who cares about 1-2mm of thickness?

[@Koboldius1987]

Although I can understand that some find the current PO too thick and there would certainly be room for a thinner version with 300m water resistance in the range, the 43.5 mm version is exactly what I was looking for in a sports diving watch. In my opinion, the Submariner is far too often or almost always used as the reference model against which other watches have to be measured. I find this disastrous, because although the Sub is an icon, not every diving watch has to be elegant, flat and somewhat dull. For me, there are two watch categories in particular that can be larger and thicker: Flieger (45 mm no problem) and diving watches. the latter can also be more colorful and a bit fancy. And that's why I bought the PO in 43.5mm and orange/white. It's a cool summer watch with great contrast and a pinch of fun factor. Exactly what a Sub or Sea Dweller is missing. The thickness doesn't bother me at all with a wrist circumference of 19.5-20 cm. I think, however, that the ceramic version and also the watch on the rubber strap appear thicker. Going back to Rolex: If I were looking for a sports watch that I could wear almost anywhere, I would always prefer the GMT II over a Sub. That's why I'm on the waiting list for the new "Bruce Wayne" 😅

[@PietroCozziTinin]

The thickness problem. You hit it on the head indeed. I have a little thickness problem too so maybe that's why those watches suit me so good. Being old, ugly and a little obese, the watch I wear has to distract people from all that. Nice vid. Still waiting for a live one in the future.

[@REALHARSH]

I just brought the Planet Ocean 43.4mm on the orange and black rubber strap. I’m a big lad to be fair and the watch doesn’t look that big at all. I love some of the Aqua Terra models and also some of the Constellation models but they would simply look feminine on me. They are indeed a niche watch but maybe that niche is simply properly built men 😂

[@giovannibucio]

planet ocean is a deep dive watch for tall ppl or big ppl if ur medium then get a 300 pro. OMEGA has so many models for every ocassion if there expensive its bc of different materials and technology. i have my daily SM300pro bkl dial with sedna gold i bought the leather band with gold clasp, i also have my aqua terra all gold brown leather 41mm master co axial brown dial like wood paneling and the globemaster all gold for wen i go out 41mm this one is thick. i tried the planet ocean and it was huge not for me. thickness is not for everyone. you dont like thick then go Deville or aqua terra or Vision time or constellation. women love thick watches these day i seen one with a PO 39mm sedna gold brown ceramic and it was awsome.

[@GrumblingForesight]

I’ve always loved the Planet Oceans. Had the first two generations in the past, both in black, and I loved the to bits. The build quality is second to none for a mass produced dive watch. Even in the first gen from 20 years ago can still hold a candle against current dive watches in terms of the build and finishing of the case and bracelet. To my eyes, they are some of the most handsome divers ever when seen from the front. However, like you said, it is its growing thickness that has stopped me from pulling the trigger on the 3rd gen models.

[@ID-Guy]

Summed it up excellently and thank you for sharing your experiences with these. Makes you think, with all they've managed to do in the last 20 years, how great would it be for them to readdress the original design now with all the tech (and modern components) - starting from scratching with a fantastic template? Unlikely to ever happen but hey🥃

[@GrumblingForesight]

@@ID-Guy agreed. hope we can all collectively will it into being. On another note, with how quiet Omega has been this year on the release front despite strong releaae from competitors (Rolex, Tudor, etc) as well as their own siblings (Longines for example), could it be due to the fact that Omega is doing just that? Going back to the drawing board after realising their areas of improvements? I sure hope so

[@TommyRibs]

I love OMEGA. I own a Speedy Mark 40. Great little watch. The Planet Ocean is really meant to be a true diver. The Planet Ocean shouldn’t be looked at as to how it fits under the cuff, but rather it’s true tool specs. Omega has some other excellent divers that can be worn as everyday watches. I have a 7” wrist, and I don’t know that I would wear a Planet Ocean as an everyday watch. The early 2000’s Planet Oceans are great watches, no doubt.

[@Stona999]

I personally love the current PO and own two of them. I also own a new Rolex SeaDweller and find the PO a nicer watch and at half the price. I'm considering selling my Seadweller now because it doesn't get worn much since i prefer the PO's much more

[@marcdaniels9079]

Totally 👍

[@marcodellapi8683]

What is the ref # on your SD and price you are asking?

[@oysterman962]

The 40mm non ceramic SD4000 is better than both the new SD and any PO. That's a proper toolwatch.

[@derekbrettell8121]

Omega should just admit defeat and mimic the case size of the Rolex Submariner dimensions. Im an Omega fan btw but Rolex absolutely spanks them when it comes to case dimensions and bracelets. Not even close.

[@ID-Guy]

Have to agree with you here Derek. After all these decades, Rolex has never lost the edge by making monstrous cases (apart from their Deepsea's etc) The fact that even today you can find OP's, Datejusts, Subs, GMT's all in that 12.5 - 13mm thickness bracket and with excellent proportions, speaks volumes. - shows how great consistency can be when it comes to longevity 🥃

[@Spook291]

I’ll go as far as saying this model Planet Ocean is Omegas best dive watch, from a looks, variety, sizes, price, one watch collection standpoint.

[@RichKovars]

I am not a fan of the modern 'gloss everything' esthetic that all of the brands are doing and the current PO turns this to 11. My perfect Planet Ocean is the 2200.50 with a 2500D in the back. If they brought back something like this with a Liquid Metal bezel I would be all over it.

[@JeffreyMcMahon]

My friend lent me his 2011 42mm Planet Ocean for a couple of weeks & it was perfect. Current models seem too ostentatious, so I agree with your observations.

[@ID-Guy]

I've been tumbling down the rabbit hole watching your latest clips over the weeks Jeff 😉 Your "Cul-De-Sac - Childhood Home" analogy was perfect...really made me think... and forced me to look up my childhood home that has been ransacked. Alas, we can never really return home 🥃

[@JeffreyMcMahon]

@@ID-Guy Awesome. Thanks. I love your content.

[@MrJSTroy]

I have the 39.5mm version of the Planet Ocean in black on steel bracelet and it’s a fantastic watch for everyday wear. I was considering the 43.5mm version but I was worried for everyday purpose it would be too thick

[@franky3fingers337]

I agree. I have the 39.5 and it’s one of their best divers at the moment. It really doesn’t get the attention it deserves.

[@mtp1979]

Fun fact : I wish I would enjoy the 42mm SMP 300 but after trying on this and the 43.5mm PO I had to come to the conclusion that the PO gives a better wearing experience. And this comes from someone with a small wrist : the lug-to-lug is shorter on the PO and the bracelet is way better. I have smaller and more refined pieces and I like that the PO is the chunky and crazy watch in the box with splashes of orange.

[@ErikL727]

Cheesy wave dial, skeletonized hands, dated, non-tapered bracelet, scalloped bezel that doesn't work when wet...the PO fixes everything I dislike in the 300M.

[@ID-Guy]

I can understand this Seb, L2L and bracelets can change the entire experience of a piece on the wrist. And must say, their Orange and White model has me returning to it again and again... it's always the small details that make all the difference. Thanks for sharing this 🥃

[@adamfenyves3972]

I have the exact same experience, both comparing it to the SMP300 and to my collection. The L2L and the bracelet make it more wearable, and just as you say, it gives that extra ruggedness to my collection. Of course, it's no longer that versatile desk diver that James Bond could just pull of with his tuxedo, but even Omega has that covered by other models already. I rather see the evolution of the model as the result of better segmentation within the Omega portfolio.

[@JamesIdentity]

Great storytelling and accurate diagnosis of the problem. Omega sacrificed wearability for showing off technology. Hope they will course correct in the next decade.

[@Bestow3000]

Technology that is let's be realistic here no better than Rolex by a large margin either.

[@buckethead84]

The whole big watch trend needs to run its course already. I suspect it's a thing because as watches became more expensive our monkey brains want to equate size and heft with value.

[@kojiattwood]

That's actually an interesting theory, that has never occurred to me.

[@Leftystrat]

Omega want to compete with other brands at the expense of not listening to their customer base, maybe I’m wrong but suu ok is omega😮

[@roylobue7125]

“What ever they are feeding is obviously working” it’s the bulk phase, gonna be really ripped once they start cutting weight

[@ID-Guy]

Winter bulking for sure 😉 Man, there is so much they could do with these... a beautifully face-lifted collection would incredible! 🥃

[@Anonymouslyme1]

Great video and absolutely spot on, Omega are missing the mark with too many of their watches. It’s a shame, I’d like to collect more of their pieces but I just prefer slim watches.

[@jameshoward9700]

Yup. As the G-Wagon evolved into an AMG monstrosity and Defender into a Chelsea tractor, so the Seamaster has run to the Planet Ocean. Omega needs to go full Ineos and go back to basics. Get rid of the showroom bling and slim to 15mm max. At least, if it's to be the suburban SUV of the watch world, they could make one version that was paired-back, purposeful, focussed, lean. But that takes confidence and I'm not sure modern Omega (beyond Speedmaster Pro) has that. Instead they over-rely on sugar and froth.

[@ID-Guy]

Great analysis. Feels like many modern watches are aiming to be that Suburban SUV... which is why when models like the Pelagos FXD arrives on the scene (and many others) people are shocked 😉 Something tells me that Omega won't be going down that route of streamlining these (unfortunately) for the prices they ask of them today... maybe they feel it needs justification with all the shiny polished ceramic and bulbous cases? 🥃

[@jameshoward9700]

Absolutely, but they're not picking up the reactionary desire for more focussed design that is hitting cars. Check out Toyota's next gen Landcruiser and Ineos's Grenadier. Tool is true and function is back!!@@ID-Guy

[@AbdulRWatches]

Omega done great with that line from a technological perspective, but from UX standpoint it stood still. It definitely needs a slimmer profile and an updated look. Thank brother for the great video 👍🏽🙏🏽

[@ID-Guy]

Imagine how great this range would be with a "facelift" - trimmer cases, neater proportions, matte finishes on the most important parts. Man, they'd have a winning formula all over again... and as always, my pleasure Abdul. It was fantastic chatting last weekend brother 🥃

[@3000waterman]

Outstanding content. And correct, too. Rolex get sizes right. I wonder why Omega don't quite get that simple truth.

[@valjean3141]

To each his own. Obviously lots of people have been complaining about the thickness of the PO for years. But I wouldn’t change it if I could. Either you’re someone who enjoys the wearing experience of this, or you’re not. It’s a bit like the old Panerai Luminor that way. Not to say that folks shouldn’t continue to complain about the PO, if they want to. But the reason there continues to be a market for this is that there’s an audience for whom this is not a flaw, but a feature. Ymmv.

[@Valera_Scotland]

Man ... we've said this for years...Omega can do amazing stuff... but they really should take it back to basics. Slimness, elegant refinement... at this stage I'm only interested in older Omega unfortunately, and won't be buying one any time soon. Let's hope they stop injecting them with the steroids soon, as I would LOVE to love a modern Omega E.g. early Aqua Terras 36mm and 39mm), Railmaster 36mm, older piepan dials, first gen Planet ocean... there are so many great older Omegas but nothing modern I'm crazy about Oh... and the prices... come on!

[@ID-Guy]

It is a real pity that a lot of us (me included) spend more time looking at the older variants because the modern one's lack "something". There's also no knowing where these collections will go. If they will continue to get bigger and bigger or after the "Summer Blue" collection, they slim them down? One thing's for sure... prices will never go down 😉

[@Valera_Scotland]

@@ID-Guy I'll stick with my Mark XVI

[@martinpearce7420]

Hii own a 2015 45.5mm 16.9mm thick to me its perfect, way more comfortable than a seadweller i used to own and more accurate, to me mot missed the mark in any way shape or form, i personnally could not make one better ;]

[@modernastronomers2596]

I wear the current model black dial PO as a daily, really don’t find it that large, and I’m not an overly large bloke.

[@mattonthewater]

It peaked at the 2500D 2201.50.00 and has declined ever since.

[@ID-Guy]

Definitely seems like more focus has gone into the SMP300's over the years and the PO has "stagnated" somewhat 🥃

[@Leftystrat]

No argument here