What Happened To The Other Provinces During The Oblivion Crisis? - Elder Scrolls Lore

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[@doctorsmiles2209]

*"GET OUT."* - Argonians "wow jeez okay" - Dagon & the Daedra

[@JadeSpecter]

Daedra: I fear no mortal, but that thing *glances at Argonians* its scares me

[@the9revan933]

The Hist was the ultimate commander during the Oblivion Crisis.

[@ireneparkin3360]

So all the provinces were wrecked in some form or other, except for Black Marsh. Black Marsh is still a independent state as of the events of Skyrim (according to the Elder Scrolls Wiki).

[@mehlodia9432]

Irene Parkin I read somewhere that Valenwood thought of unleashing the Wild Hunt and turning every Bosmer within the province into bloodthirsty shape shifting monsters to kill the Daedra. They ended up not doing it, since it would practically drive the race to extinction. That could also be completely fake.

[@b-1battledroid674]

meanwhile in tamriel: The Oblivion crisis meanwhile in oblivion: The Black marsh crisis

[@bastiisalive]

I wonder how the Akavir was doing during the invasion of Dagon. Unless Tamriel was his first goal

[@WillowTitov]

My headcanon for Skyrim citizens, particularly the Nords, not really recalling it (or rather fussing over it) is that war is literally the life for all true Nords, so a war with Daedra is just another reason to be a true Nord and fight or die trying, ending up in Sovngarde. Not to mention, Nords, especially during the times of TES: Oblivion, are quite strong people. Ever anger one by accident, and wind up running away like a pup with your tail between your legs? Yea, we've all been there. So, we can assume that is Nords in Cyradil were fairly strong, the Nords of Skyrim were no force to be reckoned with. Plus, the bastards are stubborn as all hell.

[@TheFlyingFish692]

Well, they got wrecked so they’re not as strong as they thought they were

[@UntrainableWizard]

For Skyrim, there's a good little bit of information from Winterhold. I believe they say that their hatred for magic came from the Oblivion Crisis, when half the town fell into the sea. I can't remember the exact information, but they talk about it around there, or someone does.

[@UntrainableWizard]

Ah! OK, I'm misremembering stuff then. lol Thank you!

[@SpudLab]

Hey Its SpudLab Again

[@SaeedG1999]

Argonians entering oblivion gates like its black Friday lol

[@mertmustafayalcn1860]

Sheiiiit free armor dawg

[@link670]

Hey, you live in blackmarsh and see a portal to a land that seems slightly more hospitable, better believe you are gonna manifest that destiny.

[@Jh5kRadio]

Black Friday in Black Marsh

[@onieni9779]

Random Native Khajit going into Oblivion Gate during late-3rd Era: "Cool, what can I use HERE to make drugs?"

[@raandomplayer8589]

In Cyrodiil, Oblivion invades you. In Black Marsh, you invade Oblivion.

[@ra_alf9467]

Argonians Soviet

[@Vencidious]

All of Argonian species: I serve the *Hist*

[@youtubeuser5210]

Vencidious no, WE serve the hist

[@Vencidious]

KZbin User no, All serve the Hist.

[@obijuanquenobi1911]

Vencidious no, All serve our hist

[@panpan1287]

Cyrodil: invaded by Oblivion Skyrim: invaded by Oblivion Morrowind: invaded by Oblivion Valenwood: invaded by Oblivion Summerset Isles: invaded by Oblivion Hammerfell: invaded by Oblivion High Rock: invaded by Oblivion Elsweyr: invaded by Oblivion Oblivion: invaded by Black Marsh...wait a minute

[@stephen6109]

For anyone interested this is a little more in depth of what happened to Black Marsh. The argonians worship a race of ancient sentient trees known as the hist. Some time before any oblivion gates where opened, the hist trees telepathically let all the argonians across every province of Tamriel know that they had to return to Black Marsh and defend their homelands. There was a great migration as argonians answered the call to come home and prepare the defense. Waiting in the swamps they consumed the sap of the hist trees, the hist sap tremendously enhances nearly all physical attributes of argonians. When Dagon opened his oblivion gates in Black Marsh the argonians were more than ready. They destroyed the first waves and rushed the oblivion gates, surprising the dedra forces now in their realm with such great numbers and ferocity, that Dagon closed his gates, and was basically forced out of Black Marsh.

[@xavierlucky397]

Holy shit thats awesome

[@sancturillore]

and as a little added fun fact: According to the Hist, they were created by Sithis prior to the creation of Nirn by Lorkhan and the Aedra. The Hist hive-minded tree thus still worship Sithis, and since the Hists created the Argonian race, the Argonians of Black Marsh also have a cult for Sithis. Heck, all Argonians born under the sign of the Shadow are raised in the Black Brotherhood, or at least they were prior to the Skyrim game(since the Black Brotherhood lost much of its influence). Those Argonians were known as Shadowscales, and the ones who survive and who are in Black Marsh are also acting as assassins and spies for Argonia(the Argonian country in Black Marsh). As such, now with so little contact with the Black Brotherhood, the ones born under the sign of the Shadow are likely just trained by the remaining Shadowscales who work for the Argonian government, and they likely just contribute to that work too once they are trained.

[@Top_Weeb]

Why are there argonians during the events of Oblivion in cyrodiil and why is this never mentioned in game?

[@knavenformed9436]

Lore fleshed out after the game? There was almost no outside lore in game, Skyrim mentioned a couple of times. Also some Argonians might've not gotten into the migration business.

[@MrORIGINAL81]

Why didn't I get this call from the Hist tree during my play throughs in Oblivion lol I only use Argonian when I choose a race.

[@An_Ian]

The Argonians were given a heads up thanks to the hist trees turns out having telepathic trees that can see the future make for a great deity of worship

[@NewPaulActs17]

they came out of the trees, man! they came out of the trees!

[@ethanrich1618]

IM iii

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

They have a symbiotic relationship - like the Gungans and the Naboo ;P Seriously, though, the Hist need the Argonians to watch their backs, and in return the Hist acts as the eyes, ears, and support structure for Argonian Society.

[@T3hIluvatar]

Does a tree have a back to watch?

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

A tree is literally ALL back, my dude. They need a race of lizard loraxes to speak for them, you know how it is. To keep those Imperial and Dunmer logging companies from turning them into Hist-scented scroll paper.

[@dovah2162]

"Oblivion Portals arrives packed with demons appear" Lizard bois: WHAT ARE DOING IN MAH SWAMP!

[@ccody-long6915]

Thanks for leaving us to die, Neverarine and Vivec! *OBLIVION CRISIS FLASHBACKS INTENSIFIE

[@007RAJKOify]

Shogorath will always protect us. He is just waiting to tell others that Jyggalag is free. oh, what fubn that will be. He and Jyggalag made plans, I am 100% sure of it. Soon deadric princes will die off. Rest assured, Dagon cnat even scratch fully leveled hero of Kvatch and he can kill Dagon with mere thought.

[@ireneparkin3360]

@@007RAJKOify but Daedra are immortal. Even when they "die", their bodies and souls will get recycled and come back, whether it takes them mere seconds or decades or in Umaril's case, a few thousand years. Please note: Umaril was Aylied , but struck a deal with one of the Daedric Lord's, got a army of Aurorans and became a Daedra for lack of a better word to call him.

[@paladinheadquarters7776]

The Champion of Morrowind wait, I know you.

[@thischannelisdeadsopleaseg110]

@@paladinheadquarters7776 You're making a mistake...

[@ra_alf9467]

There's no mistake. You ran away when the Daedra attacked Morrowind, now what are you going to say?

[@gmaster634]

Hearing about the argonians made me want to start rolling an argonian. Bunch of badasses

[@ImYoDK]

That’s what I’m doing in Skyrim I’m like do you have any idea who you are messing with

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

Dremora: "alright, time to massacre these..." Argonians: "SURPRISE MUTHAFUCKER'S!!" *zerg rushes dremora*

[@Razzrazz90]

**Daedra Invade Black Marsh** Daedra: “Suprise muthafu-“ Argonians: “ *SURPRISE MUTHAFUCKA!* “

[@crazyinsane500]

Considering the near total absence of traditional Daedra in Skyrim, to the point where I think they only exist as summons and within Azura's Star, I think it's safe to say that they were successfully wiped out within the province.

[@marsnz1002]

They need to be summoned or come through a gate. Not many magic users in Skyrim. No gates either. Skyrim seems one of the most vulnerable to Daedra attack I would guess they got mauled.

[@falfun9655]

There actually is a voiceline in oblivion that says that from falkreath to windhelm skyrim was overrun with deadra

[@ivanrodriguez5402]

@@marsnz1002 Who knows how bad it was exactly, but Whiterun is literally surrounded by ruins, in fact there's so many ruins in Skyrim that makes you think that they never fully recovered

[@LTJProductionOfficial]

The hist trees warned the Argonians about the impending daedra invasion. I think ShoddyCast covered this.

[@mariosnyd]

I think they did

[@desertcamel5473]

Thank you for doing a video about the argonians. Could you do a lore video on sweetrolls?

[@colly407]

Uuuh.. they're very good... uh sometimes people got turned into them... and people would steal them a lot. There you go. Years of research all put into one comment.

[@iwasdruggedandleftfordeadi815]

I'm hungry and that stupid robot destroyed the cake. Give me that sweetroll you got from old lady palmer.

[@doctorstrangelove9055]

You forgot to mention the Argonian's success was due to the Hist, calling the Argonians back to Black Marsh and sending them in a feenzy once the gates opened.

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

Doctor Strangelove no. That is actually false the hist never told the argonians about the deadra coming they didn't even know the argonians only faired so well in the oblivion crisis because how deadly black marsh. All the info about the hist telling the argonians was just some fan story some guy came up with years ago I can't remember the name but people just stuck to it and they end up thinking it is canon when we have litteraly no record about how the argonians stormed oblivion in any of the games

[@doctorstrangelove9055]

Wasn't it something MK wrote up? I don't at all like C0DA but a lot of his work I do consider lore, I digress as you are write in that it's technically not canon but MK canon.

[@YOGI-kb9tg]

Doctor Strangelove no that' one of the many parts of TES c0da lore MK didn't create but people mistake it as his

[@doctorstrangelove9055]

I stand corrected.

[@kovenmaitreya7184]

HiiPER MaaDMaan lol people keep citing this all through the comments as if its relevant... And it turns out to not even be canon? Hilarious 😂

[@alexfxlll]

Its a huge shame they dont do more with the lore, its quite a surface level game

[@unholymalformationoffisto2131]

alex fxll I feel they definitely try to put the story in, but don't bother going in depth or explaining in any way other than superficially. Or it just seems like they have a complete blank spot in their memory to major plots in previous games that would have massive ramifications that if it were a real scenario, would be talked of for centuries. Slaying of an Ayleid? Eh, the oblivion crisis that threatened to end the world as it was known? Oblivion crisis? The hell is the oblivion crisis..oh right some dark elf kicked the bucket from a daedra when he was making an opus - Skyrim

[@ascanioscarpati8538]

@@unholymalformationoffisto2131 "Some dark elf" is our saviour Jiub, the eradicator of the winged menace

[@kerschi1421]

Finally when someone asks now, if i have heared any news from the other provinces, i won´t have to tell them that i don´t want to talk about it

[@deanmurray4776]

Kerschi 14 Have you heard any news from the other provinces?

[@the_blind_hearing6]

@@deanmurray4776 Lol

[@infecte1523]

@@deanmurray4776 I have been better.

[@myles3856]

Ok

[@willowhicks8952]

The Thalmor came into power because they saved the Altmeri refugees from the Crystal Tower right after it collapse and then made a campaign to fight off the daedra and close the gates. They actually saved Summerset from worse destruction. With the instability after words they started taking control of everything and even killed the current Monarchy so they could rule. Don't hate the high elves hate the Thalmor. Many high elves hate them because they kill their own people. I think 40 years after the crisis a bunch of high elf dissidents fled to Northern Hammerfell and were assassinated by Thalmor bounty hunters

[@stevengreen9536]

@Willow Hicks They also took credit for ending the Oblivion Crisis.Which at the time many high elves believed them since they were not immediately aware of the events that took place in Cyrodiil.

[@willowhicks8952]

Steven Green A course. Thank you I forgot to mention that.

[@noxflo897]

Man you can't trust Them tall long ear bastards. They don't even have respect to their bosmer cousins.

[@stevengreen9536]

@jahmerry h Yes the Thalmor are extremists.Even going as far as to commit the occasional purge of any bosmer clan or faction that does not subscribe to their policies of elven unification or supremacy.But you must remember not all high elves think the way they do.Chancellor Ocato who was part of the imperial government during the Oblivion Crisis.Did not agree with what the Thalmor were doing back in his homeland.He ended up getting exiled back to Cyrodiil.Along with other high elves seeking amnesty within the empire.

[@willowhicks8952]

Steven Green for all way know 60% of the Altmer could hate their government just like America and her president, but the High Elves live in fear of interrogation, torture and even death if they speak out.

[@law_boii]

Dagon is the daedric prince of change, as well. So maybe all of this change to the entirety of Tamriel was a large part of his plan, not simply trying to invade and conquer.

[@goof421]

argonians - best race 2018

[@lestat305]

They have always been the best race

[@sundewgaming3675]

*for slavery*

[@kovenmaitreya7184]

Yeah, I've always loved the argonians, I just never felt compelled to play as one.. I just remember them having so much character in Oblivion, lol! Damn i need to finish that game. This video also made me respect them so much more.

[@goof421]

ironically enough, i don't think i've ever played as an argonian ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@niall798]

Eww

[@aeureus]

You can hear some people in oblivion idly talking to each other about summerset Isles and other provinces

[@sickofitall89]

yeah but they dont say anything meaningful.

[@StraightUpIrishJames]

New vid fams, finally got to do this topic and finish it. Remember to give your suggestions fro next videos. Hope you enjoy #oof

[@user-pd9ry9ic6l]

StraightUpIrish How do ya know all these things about the udder provences?

[@bghoody5665]

StraightUpIrish In all seriousness, Bethesda needs to use you (more specifically, your voice) in one of their TES games.

[@EnchantedSmellyWolf]

Neat! You also play ESO. I'm an Imperial!

[@nuggetplaygames]

miaq no maik

[@ireneparkin3360]

Gerfoe, One with the Cheese It's M'aiq.

[@Jorji_FCS]

There's a few clues about the Oblivion Crisis in the quest obtained from the Museum in Dawnstar, that one in witch you gain the Mehrunes Razor. The Mythic Dawn has an appearance there.

[@supercool1312]

Jorge Filêmom what are the clues tho

[@greekieshion4501]

They only tell us about the Mythic Dawn,no "Clues" about what happened to the provinces during the Obvlion Crisis.

[@chelsie2767]

If you have the dawnguard dlc, there’s a tattered mythic dawn banner in Lord Horkan? I can’t remember his name. But the banner is hanging in the castle, implying a, this vampire clan has been around for centuries, and b, that the oblivion crisis bled into Skyrim at least slightly. This isn’t definitive, just something worth noting.

[@wintertrooper7918]

Chelsie yeah that mythic dawn banner is a real head scratcher eh? But considering molag bal and Mehrunes Dagon are about as chummy as the empire and the stormcloaks it’s safe to assume that banner is likely one of Harmon’s spoils of war

[@blizzlichd1338]

Massive respect to the argonians. I started liking the argonians because of tainava from the darkbrotherhood.

[@allmyself666]

*Daedra* : "Your souls are ours mortals!" *Argonians* : *sips hist juice* "bet?"

[@Vencidious]

Argonians: WhAt ArE yOu DoInG iN mY sWaMp!¿

[@themadhattress5008]

For some reason I often think the Oblivion Crisis took place in Cyrodiil alone. Then I remember Mehrunes Dagon tried to take over ALL of Tamriel. It would only stand to reason that other provinces would be affected in some way or another. In that case, though, there ARE mods you can add that will put Oblivion gates in Skyrim, so there's that if you want your game to be more lore-friendly (there strangely seem to be none in the vanilla game, but with structures like Oblivion gates, whether shut or not, you'd think you could still find remnants of them 200 years or however long later).

[@ireneparkin3360]

The Mad Hattress there's a mod that can put dead Oblivion Gates into Skyrim.

[@filescout266]

I guess they ended up buried by snow

[@ireneparkin3360]

File Scout or destroyed.

[@filescout266]

Irene Parkin I was talking about the remainings, that rocks that stay in the ground even after destroying them.

[@stevengreen9536]

@The Mad Hattress You would think their would be Oblivion Gates still around two hundred years later.However i think their are at least two factors to consider.First within the empire i believe religious authorities would have gotten the government to tear most if not all of them down.As a " just in case " measure and to make sure they do not become gathering places for daedric worship.( especially for followers of Dagon ) If the empire missed any the Vigilants of Stendaar would have surely been keeping an eye out for any in their travels.Then wasted no time in tearing them down themselves once they got enough men and the necessary tools at the site.The rest may have suffered erosion due to various climate conditions and the weather.Then collapsed on their own.I am sure the other provinces may have torn down their's as well for the same reasons.But it is possible their might be some left in Tamriel and possibly even Akavir as well.

[@supercool1312]

i think black marsh was waiting the oblivion gates to appear because the hist warned them and instead of daedra rushing out the argonians rushed in XD argonians are the best

[@supercool1312]

also the nords probably annhialated the daedra tbh

[@gearoidfolan4933]

I have a few video ideas 1: why you should kill/not kill Cicero 2: why you should not kill Alduin 3:why you should not kill Mercer Frey 4:what happend to the other provinces during the Dragon crisis 5:why was the emperor okay with you killing him 6:ranking the elder scrolls games 7:why the blades are dicks 8:what is the best guild in skyrim 9:beyond skyrim Burma play through 10: I cant remember the name of the mid but it is the one that has 3 faction either imperials irks or a local jarl it it based on the skyrim border it is like beyond skyrim Burma

[@O.M-]

Gearóid Folan Great ideas 😀👍

[@stayfro5ty214]

Weißt du den Weg

[@strodex]

These are interesting questions so I'll answer them from my view! 1. I didn't kill cicero because he was just trying to help. The night mother to him is like his actual mother, and hearing everyone in the brotherhood pretty much say "She shouldn't be here" made cicero angry. I think he was reasonably correct in what he did, especially considering the times that he is in (Where people could kill for a sweetroll) 2. Because he is meant to end the kalpa. Not much you can do, so you may as well enjoy what you've got. 3. Hahaha no. 4. Can't remember lel 5. There was a theory about the emperor hiring the brotherhood himself, you should check it out! 6. From my least favourite to most favourite: Morrowind is a 1/10 for me. Oblivion is a 7/10 and skyrim is a 9/10 (I enjoy good graphics and open world) 7. I'd love to know that myself. 8. Personally, the college of winterhold. I enjoy the magical aspect of the elder scrolls series. I loved the design and lore of winterhold, because it really is mysterious! I'll expand on why I didn't choose the others: Companions: They were my 2nd favourite but I love magic too much haha Thieves Guild: This is my 3rd favourite because I loved the abilities you get from this, and it's also fine to use my magic (Illusion) Dark brotherhood: They had like one amazing quest (My fave quest in the game too) but not much else. Idk, this dark brotherhood didn't have the charm of the oblivion one. ---- DLC ----- Dawnguard: It was amazing and mystical but I hated the characters. Lord Harkons court: My least favourite, I don't like vampires. 9. Uhhhhhh 10. That's called Lordbound, and I'm super hyped for it.

[@mvmsma]

The Blades aren't dicks. Delphine is a dick. The Blades from TES IV - Oblivion are pretty cool.

[@peachyjam9440]

Quin B Why is Morrowind 1/10? Mario Vinicius Agreed Gearóid Folan What is Dragon Crysis? Do you mean the return of Alduin?

[@sir.spider]

for Black Marsh the argonians worshipped the Hist which were trees and were the first life in tamriel. They drank the sap from the Hist and it told them the future. The Hist realised that the argonians weren't strong enough so the made their sap stronger and the argonians were ready.

[@charlesf6247]

What about the other providence nothing I would like to talk about

[@chickensandwich6400]

I wonder if Pyandonea was ever affected because I feel like it could’ve been the same way with the Argonians. Although they were surprised by the invasion the Maormer live in a tropical rain forest that is to many uninhabitable due to the things there and for that reason the Maormer have an advantage. Also they for the most part always have a strong military

[@randalthor741]

The Maormer don't have the Hist backing them. The Hist are the only reason the Argonians turned back the invasion: the Hist knew that it was coming, altered Argonians to make them more powerful and more aggressive, and had these beefed up Argonians mass in the locations where the Hist knew the Oblivion Gates would appear. They made the Argonians ready for the invasion.

[@kaneslives]

The Hist seems to be a really chill hivemind. It warned them and can call them back to Blackmarsh but didn't force them to come. That's how I see it because there are Argonians still in Cyrodil.

[@sadsworth4605]

It's my favorite deadra god I think they really do care about blackmarsh

[@dovah2162]

Daedra: invades Black Marsh Argonians: wHaT aRe YoU DOiNg iN mY SwAmP!!!

[@herniaherne737]

You sound like you be on RTE news :P

[@DawgPoundGeneral]

I can't agree with you about the Argonians. Yes, they defeated the daedra(with lots of help from the Hist trees), but they couldn't easily over run the Dunmer of Morrowind after they took massive casualties from the Oblivion crisis and the entire island of Vvardenfell becoming a wasteland after the Red Mountain Eruption. For a race that had to rely on their sacred Hist trees to empower them to defeat the Daedra, the Argonians, without Hist magic, could not defeat the already dysfunctional Dunmer of Morrowind that barely had a leg to stand on.

[@ignispurgatio7400]

Skyrim belongs to the argonian

[@wiibrockster]

I guess Thanks To The Oblivion Crisis along With The Mythic Dawn and Mehrunes Dagon,The Thalmor Rose to Power in The Summerset Isles...Huh,I guess It's like a Chain Reaction

[@anitawiglit1806]

Im heart broken i never played Oblivion, when it came out i was in a bad place in my life, ive played every other elder scrolls game, with Morrowwind being my favorite. i'll give it a try!

[@menghao737]

Straight out of Argonia! Spitting fire like a drag-an, so don't call me a lizard, man! Or else you eat'n a prehensile tail slam. Closed Dagon and his portals out, while giving Sithis a big shout. Shadowscale till the day I die, then back to the Hist for another life! So coming talking that trash in the B. Marsh. Get sent to the void real harsh!

[@DaRealGG]

I was playing oblivion recently and I recall some bandits talking with each other about how Skyrim was getting devastated by the daedra. Idk the exact line though

[@DG-nv4pf]

Winterhold was invaded in skyrim

[@Aenygma_]

*Daedra:* Black Marsh will soon be ours! *Argonians:* LOL. *Daedra:* Understandable, sorry for any inconvenience we may have caused you, have a very nice end of era.

[@maxhaly1612]

Daedra: "Excuse me, can you tell me which way is Black Marsh?" Argonians: "Yea it's back the way you came." *Cocks shotgun*

[@edelzocker8169]

Argonians: *knock* *knock* Daedra: HELP!!!

[@gigachadsigmamale380]

daedra: try and invade blackmarsh argonians: hippity hoppity get off my fucking property

[@GoddessOfCats]

*Oblivion gate opens in Black Marsh* Daedra: Why do I hear boss music?

[@loganmitchell4405]

In my opinion, you are one of the best skyrim you tubers as you as a funny tone to your videos, and explain things well. You are really awesome to watch

[@thomaskelly4855]

Have*

[@LordMorde]

Dagon: Invades Black Marsh Argonians: *AUTISTIC SCREECHING

[@gangrel321]

In tes4 the empire abandoned all of the other provinces to focus only on cyrodiil. That's how the thalmere take over the high elves because it was they who saved the high elves. As a result the high elves devopled a burning hate for man and then thr great war happened

[@repoocsrepoop]

*thalmor

[@kalabaster357]

Maniacal Laugh have you even played oblivion?

[@fearthepiggaming2998]

So this is just a theory on my end But I think that for those remaining 4 provinces 3 of them probably did OK During the crisis and that would be valanwood elsweyr and hammerfell. Allow me to explain The redguards are naturally skilled Warriors considered to be some of the best warriors in tamriel combined with the deserts of their homeland being difficult to traverse I could see them having a sizable combat advantage. I could actually picture them using guerrilla tactics to defeat the deadra like they did against the Thalmor. Also redguard cavalry aint nothing to fuck with so ya if Their people were smart and fell back to the deserts they could easily defeat the deadra BUT I feel like taking the fight to them like the argonians did....yeah they would get smoked...pun intended... The wood elves would actually have done surprisingly well at first. Guerrilla warfare is something they are great at and I guarantee you that deadra would not know the forests as well as they do. So ya snipers dream! Downside unlike the deserts forests can be destroyed and I imagine that a good chunk of their forest would have been burned.....like a lot! So for the wood elves I have to say strong start weak finish. Now our beloved Kitty friends. I know this is gonna sound really lame but guerrilla tactics again! Given the terrain of their homeland they have A LOT to work with. The cats have forests and deserts as well as murky water like the argonians and the genetics of their people as a whole is an advantage! Kahjeet come in many different varieties and all of these varieties are capable of interbreeding with each other so if one breed wasn't good for fighting the deadra guess what the species continues. This is a lot of advantages however in terms of head on combat they would probably get destroyed so I imagine that they had to resort to guerrilla tactics even more than the rest. Now for my favorite race the bretons...... Yeah they're fucked! Like there is no doubt in my mind that they got completely destroyed during the oblivion crisis. Breton kings have a bad habit of feuding and they aren't very good at uniting even under crisis scenarios so the province would have been shattered the second this started and even allied lords would have probably been separated from their allies due to the size of the invading armies. And while I feel like Breton knights would be capable of holding their own against Deadra I doubt they would be able to do so for a long. And while Breton castles are impressive the common people yeah they got screwed HARD. And any lords that didn't have extra stocks of food would have probably died in their castles while their lands burned. So yeah long story short I feel like 3 out of the 4 provinces would have done OK but high rock probably got screwed which definitely accounts for the sorry state of the Empire currently.

[@kovenmaitreya7184]

Fear the Pig Gaming Excellent analysis!

[@fearthepiggaming2998]

Koven Maitreya hey thanks man

[@jjtomecek1623]

I think that all makes sense. I imagine that's what most likely happened to the other provinces

[@repoocsrepoop]

*khajiit

[@diegojimenez5937]

*daedra invades black marsh* Argonians: *YOUVE COME TO THE WRONG HOUSE FOOL*

[@adamhurd1560]

...well, damn. Those Argonians weren't messing around. I find it so hilarious that the daedra just popped in to try and conquer black marsh and just immediate like millions of lizard men were just on them. Go Argonians!

[@XxPaganHeartxX]

"But yeah, Morrowind got smashed and pretty beaten up during it" or in straightupirish's words: "Butt chyah Marruuwin god-smasht n priddee beet'nup durin eet." I love this line. not only because of the accent but because jesus that's highly a highly amusing tldr if i've ever heard one LOL

[@notorious213x]

The one npc dialogue in oblivion that mentions skyrim basically only mentions the daedra lay siege to the old holds

[@rhithym]

fuck with the hist, get the lizard fist.

[@TheDrakanMaster124]

Beyond Skyrim but Oblivion

[@Jaggosaddo]

Great video, I am a new subscriber. How about you do a video on skywind and say what you think or your favourite immersive mods for skyrim. Great video :)

[@iNIMATEstudio]

So argonian is like russian in tamriel

[@user-lv2em1me6q]

nothing i'd like to talk about

[@kayleecaca]

I am so glad I found your channel... you are the funniest elder scrolls youtuber I have ever watched.😂

[@AskiFin]

MISTAKE: It's is wildly accepted as a fact, what you said about Argonians. However sources for that lie outside of games. That was mentioned in a book by Gregory Keyes called: "Infernal City". Whether or not it is canon is up to a debate. (until beth either references it in game or denies it)

[@jmm1233]

Speaking of black marsh , some the hist also made to be part of the infernal city incident , which also dropped a seedling in skyrim

[@Scoooot]

Really cool topic! you should cite your references so I can nerd out and find/read the books?

[@gluttony3044]

skyrim has ruined oblivion gates littered through out if you haven't noticed them theres one in whiterun behind the talos statue and one in solitude among other places

[@Mrghost271]

BAR CODE that’s if you have that oblivion gates mod I believe

[@gluttony3044]

no, but there is a mod that adds map markers to all of the oblivion gates. they are there in the base game

[@dezmondrobinson4060]

I honestly Think Hammerfell handled pretty well since they were able to beat back The Aldermeri Dominion back by themselves and have them abandon that campaign completely!

[@BigEvan96]

Don't the dark elves worship the Daedra? Were they surprised when they were attacked?

[@benschlahmilch3168]

ive been waiting for someone to make this video and who better than you Irish, thanks buddy!

[@650shaggy]

ben schlahmilch No

[@deutchecheems7678]

I belive the stat of the forts in skyrim be so poor as caused by the Oblivion crisis, because by i know skyrim has not been afacted by the great war (Other than by manpower/soldiers and volunteers)

[@sanguiniusonvacation1803]

Black Marsh : " nice place you got here, WE WILL TAKE IT " *Confused Deadra Screaming and argonian warcrime noises *

[@awesomeal3603]

Argonians... who would have thought.

[@dakotastein9499]

6:17 Riley from the boondocks said it best: "man i musta been blind cause i sure didint see THAT asswoopin coming."

[@nancydawson3870]

Love your accent btw. Also, there was an interesting thing is skyrim, in the inn "The bee and Barb" There is a dark elf with the last name "Dreth" I think, who says his ancestor fought off all the daedra, and saved Martin Bean, and his ancestor was Velen Dreth, who was the guy opposite yout cell, taunting you (who you thankfully can kill in the dark brotherhood)

[@kyousukekoyomi9160]

In real war fortification are extremely important. There are real life cases were 35 people in 1 castle protected the castle form 500 or more people for more than 6 month's since the Argonions already know that the invasion was coming they had the chance to fortify. If the Dark Elf's already knew that the invasion will C U M them they would have fortified and Woop some Daedra A S S.

[@SpecsCloud]

You can get some info from conversations between npcs in oblivion. I heard earlier while playing someone say "The situation in Skyrim is grim, from Falkreath to Windhelm the daedra are attacking". They mispronouce Falkreath lol, they say FALK-REE-ETH

[@flavourtowne228]

Can we do another kahoot stream I missed the last one

[@aleksapetrovic6519]

It was never explicitly said how events unfold, but many books casually mention Skyrim holds were in ruins which probably means Nords fared very poorly during the Daedra invasion. The fact Windhelm and Blacklight were waging war probably didn't help. As for Morrowind, Irodil and Dres were ineffective since fall of Tribinal (Irodil) and abolitionists (Dres) weaken those houses. Talvani individually tried their best to stop it, but since they weren't a united force, they were mostly ineffective except on local scale. One Talvani wizard tried to recover Mehrumes Razor, but we fucked him up. Redoran was the one who took the charge and organized Dunmer into the effective fighting force. We don't know how good they were, but since Mournhold and Blacklight stood ground, it is safe to say they were decent.

[@Feber2001]

Dremora: Cool province, bro. By the way, we're invading you. Argonians of Blackmarsh: *COWABUNGA IT IS!*

[@StruckenOGSlop2008]

The elder scrolls travels oblivion on psp has anwsers for high rock

[@maximaldinotrap]

Giant Crab: **Exists** Daedra: Awww, that is cute Lizards: **Exists** Daedra: **HORRIFIED SCREAMING**

[@deadknight1402]

The Argonians won because the Hist had empowered them after recalling almost all the Argoians across Tamriel back into Black Marsh, where the Hist also sent the Argonians visions that the Oblivion Crisis would happen before the Mythic Dawn assassins came after the Septims. Fun fact: After the Oblivion Crisis, the An-Xileel had instilled the Argonian people with a strong sense of nationalism, and would lead in a mass racial-cleansing, killing off any non-Argonians in their homelands, and flipping the bird to the Hist for no reason. Now they're being chased down by the Redoran Guard, and are probably on the hit list of pretty much every single province, with no aid from the Hist... The An-Xileel are just racist, dumb-ass pricks that got too high on their superhuman powers from the Oblivion Crisis.

[@ichigo_miruku_qt843]

In Skyrim, the Dawnstar Museum is run by a man who is part of the Church of the Mythic Dawn - they helped Mehrunes Dagon and are basically the Church of Scientologists - who sends you on a quest to retrieve parts of an ancient sword called the Mythic Razor, which has enough power to suck the lifeforce out of any mortal (if it was activated). You then go on a quest with him to give the sword to Dagon at a shrine. Afterwards Dagon will command you to kill him - there are two choices. 1st: kill museum manager and gain the influence and affection of Dagon or; 2nd: don’t kill him, Dagon will then proceed to summon two Deadra to kill you. There is no way to obtain the Mythic Razor as you must retrieve the parts and the sword cannot be built. You must give the parts to the manager who then keeps it to give to Dagon.

[@rivetingeel2389]

Remember when you would close an oblivion gate and be like “Yes! Im a hero!” and then you would go two feet and see another oblivion gate and you would just go “Fuck...”

[@Vencidious]

All of tamriel: No!!! You can’t just kill all the Daedra like that! You have to actually use combat! Argonians: hehe oblivion go brrrr

[@crossbones5428]

Not only did Vivec and Nerevar go away somewhere, the Imperials took all of their troops out of Morrowind to protect Cyrodiil, pretty much leaving the Dunmer fucked.

[@pj1789]

there’s a quote in Oblivion saying the daedra were fucking Skyrim’s shit up pretty bad, “from Falkreath to Windhelm”

[@My_name_is_I.P._Freely]

An Akaviri invasion? Not in Black Marsh. And I'll bet the Argonians would follow the retreating Akaviri across the sea.

[@Scorchcast]

I'm not questioning your knowledge of the lore but didn't the Nerevarine leave before the Oblivion Crisis? As far as I knew he wasn't even aware it was going to happen but I could be wrong. Good video though.

[@galacticquasar9944]

im not saying it will happen, but it could (you never know ;). If the Oblivion crisis happens here, who will join me?!

[@TeCHnORiOT]

Yeah invading Black Marsh ended up bad for the Daedra, but at least they didn't try to invade Chicago or Detroit, now that'd be bad.

[@viktorreaper9748]

You did make a mistake I'm afraid, you bailed on woodelves.. we will free our land from the altmer yet! The camorans will arise again and retake our trees! And the last the purging thalmor will see shall be the shadow of the wild hunt falling upon their backs! For Eplar!

[@KajiRider1997]

Kell'teph killled all the Deidra by farting in their direction, he had moonsugar beansoup that night. Many died, many suffered. both parties banned khajiit from town before resuming their battle.

[@wintertrooper7918]

I mean TECHNICALLY both neraverine and Vivec both left/fled/disappeared a few years prior to it