What happened to the special shades??? PAT MCGRATH MOTHERSHIP X: Swatches + Comparisons + 5 Looks

[@ttsandra]

loved this collab with you and Hannah!!

[@Bekah_Sun]

love YOU

[@mariam.a.]

I too was sorely disappointed at the lack of baked shades and hope this is not a trend that is here to stay. Let's start a movement #savethebakedshades...let's buy Pat a new oven if hers is broken, anything to get us that sweet baked formula back 🤣

[@Axaxaxaxxaxaxxa]

🤣🤣🤣

[@rosasinger8565]

no way, you and hannah uploaded at the same time!!! so cool edit: so you guys did this on purpose :) still super cool

[@Bekah_Sun]

Haha, you noticed! :) I'm so glad you enjoyed!

[@shantellesoon]

Great review! I was a pat mcgrath fan for years before she came out with PMG labs. It took me a while to purchase anything (back then her prices seemed more outrageous than they do now … sadly) but once I started it was off to the races. I am super peeved that the baked shades are gone. I 100% think it’s a cost and consumer ploy. The baked shades, while absolutely stunning and unique, are not the easiest to work with. I think PMG is now more focused on the regular old consumer, which may not reach for those shades as often because they can be finicky and want more wearable colour stories. I’ll admit that I love my motherships but they’re probably some of my least used palettes. With that I’m trying to be very selective about purchasing any more … but I love the colour story of the non-mattes in this one so I will probably pick it up during her next sale and try out the non baked special shades. Hate the matte colour story though. Without the baked shades, it will make it incredibly difficult to justify purchasing future motherships though.

[@Bekah_Sun]

I hear you, really hoping the baked astral shades aren't gone forever. We'll see.

[@LucindaR]

I keep all my external packaging too; all the better to tell them apart. Two well spoken creators collaborating?! Give us more 😍

[@Bekah_Sun]

Aw, thank you! More to come :)

[@danithilette]

I just put this palette back on my wishlist after playing around with it in person. I've been looking at reviews. Thank you for how in depth this review is. I find it interesting that consumers have the audacity to put Pat McGrath in a box where she is not allowed to create other luxurious formulas besides the baked formula we are used to. The amount of reviews that put down this palette because of the alleged lack of special shades is ridiculous. The last 4 shadows are not some basic metallic. They are still extremely special too me.

[@becm963]

Positive note: I don’t need another Mothership palette. I like the ethereal look achieved by the baked formula. It gives my lids that glass effect. I like duochromes in deeper shades like in Huetopian Dreams or Divine Rose II. The Blitz Astral shades (toppers) are prettier, in my opinion, in the baked formula.

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'm with you!

[@notimportant123]

Thanks for talking about the loss of the baked astrals, nobody else is!

[@Bekah_Sun]

That's so surprising to me because it's a huge change!

[@janelleespinosa6247]

I love that you actually put the eyeshadow on!! Some channels aren't doing that anymore. I will definitely follow you keep showing us!!

[@Bekah_Sun]

Oh that's so interesting! I always love to see application too. Will definitely keep sharing!

[@SPMonz1219]

You spoke to my soul with the idea of a PMG labs take on murky mustards and grungy greens. Hopefully she hears our pleas! P.s. you and Hannah's reviews male me feel like I'm seeing the palette in person without having seen it! UK shoppers rely on videos etc as I don't know of any stores that carry PMG (at least not in Scotland). So thanks again.

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'm so glad to hear the reviews were helpful! Murky mustard and grungy greens are the dream.

[@methosimortal]

I think without the baked astrals, you're better off picking up one of her mega pallettes. Pat's metallics are outstanding and multidimensional while also being easier to apply than these glitters. Also the pallettes are far less expensive. That being said one of my friends is OBSSESED with Moonlit Seduction and the glitters in there. She doesn't own any other mothership so not knowing the astral formula, she doesn't care that these aren't baked. I guess this is one of those pallettes that is going to do well with people that are new to the mothership collection.

[@liz54321]

I appreciate that your and Hannah's reviews are so very different because you have different motherships to compare it to.

[@Bekah_Sun]

I thought that was an interesting contrast too!

[@jenhesse22]

I was also dismayed that the original astral formula wasn’t included. This palette is fine overall, but it isn’t my favorite by any stretch of the imagination. I’m hoping she (mother Pat) will redeem herself in future launches. I think her audience is waiting for new and exciting color stories that do not lean so pink and rosy.

[@mellissacrowley2310]

100% agree! X

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'm hoping for the same!

[@ninjademochic]

I definitely would love to see some greens in a future pallet. Like a deep deep olive green as the lower row far left shade, and a matte and/or astral mint ish leaning color, and absolutely a mustard not quite green not totally yellow matte would be a dream in her formula.

[@Bekah_Sun]

Ugh yes, that's all I want.

[@sleepychamaeleon]

Yes please!

[@ArchanaRagu]

so interesting bc i bought huetopian dream as my first pat palette and i think i would prefer creamier special shades than the baked glitters! curious to swatch this palette in sephora. thanks for the review!!

[@cherylb_88]

I much prefer this one than the Huetopian Dream. This one is actually my favorite mothership out of all of them and I have them all except decadence which doesn’t truly count imo lol

[@zusamy20]

@@cherylb_88 I don’t use my huetopian dream as much for that reason , the glitters are chunkier than other Motherships.

[@cherylb_88]

@@zusamy20 same

[@Bekah_Sun]

I think that totally makes sense. It's definitely a preference thing in terms of textures. I do tend to use a glitter glue when I use PMG baked astral shades because of the flakiness.

[@Texasgirl4ever23]

I agree. I enjoy both actually but the moonlit seduction is my favorite

[@vidatalab8301]

I think the most valuable piece of information you offered is the comparison among the pink/mauve palettes. I didn’t know how different they were in tone and atmosphere, I guess. Still, the fact that the last four motherships have been in the pink/mauve family has rightfully disappointed a lot of makeup lovers, myself included. Here’s to hoping that the next mothership doesn’t have pink

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'm so glad you found that helpful! I agree with you.

[@johannamichel7945]

I agree with you : it's a costumer friendly palette, those are money based decisions we are getting. I'm personally disappointed, and won't be being the palette: I don't want to pay this price point if I can dupe the vibe with the mattes I already have and a few singles from more indie brands. I hope the next one will be more fun and artistic, but I prepare myself to be disappointed again.

[@Bekah_Sun]

I hear you. Still waiting for the murky grungy palette of my dreams!

[@johannamichel7945]

@@Bekah_Sun I would personally love a green and blue palette, or a real rainbow one (I was really hoping the Mothership VIII would be a colour rainbow...)

[@corasephora]

Classy, eloquent and knowledgeable. I cannot buy a palette before your review!

[@Bekah_Sun]

Thank you so much for trusting me!

[@charmedbymeghan]

Came over from Hannah's channel ◇ Loving the 2 reviews

[@Bekah_Sun]

Yay, welcome!

[@thatjedininja]

Loved hearing both yours and Hannah’s thoughts. I still want the palette even though I can dupe the vibe. I’m going to simmer on for a bit though. I don’t think PMG will move this direction with her formatting her palettes moving forward. There’s a big no makeup makeup trend happening and sheer washes of colors in most lux eyeshadow this year. I think PMG is following through the trend. I think next year will be a different texture. Anyway, great video and comps!

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'm so glad you enjoyed! I'll definitely be keeping an eye on what they come out with next too.

[@gigi2k326]

Came from the HLP show 🤪 I only have the V, bc it was the new cool palette when I discovered beautyYT and I don't love it. Bronzes aren't my love, but I didn't know that then. I'm a fan of rosey shades, so basically anything other than V should be in collection, but yet here I am oh well. Lol You're a gorgeous sight for sore eyes! Highlight isn't my thing, but I'm going to check your description box for deets on the cheekbone glow.

[@Bekah_Sun]

Yay, welcome! I totally get it. V is very warm-toned. I bet you'd love Mothership I! On my cheeks is good old CT Flawless Filter.

[@ralphandleosmom9075]

I’m bummed about the new formulas. I prefer the original blitz and astral versions. The palette looks flipping amazing on you though. And your skin is so beautiful and glowing!

[@Bekah_Sun]

Thank you so much! Totally agree with you about the formulas.

[@qveenissac]

Prob the most comprehensive review of the palette. I appreciate the in-depth comparisons most as it really dissects the similarities & differences vs. the other Motherships but also puts aside the "newness" factor to bring to light what I like or don't most about the palette...or maybe that I might prefer what I already have!

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'm so glad you found the review helpful!

[@megan_mackenzie]

I enjoyed this Collab! Especially liked your comparisons since I've been back and forth between this one and Huetopian Dream, despite them being so different. Thank you!

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'm so glad you enjoyed! I think the two palettes are really different on the eyes, despite both having rosy shades. I can't remember if I linked it but I have a full review of Huetopian Dream too kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYjPp5iPbdxsjtU

[@sashaminium]

I would have loved more blues, grays, or taupes in place of the seemingly ubiquitous rosy and gold tones. I love rosy and gold tones, but just not in every single Mothership.

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'm with you!

[@yehfish88]

just discovered your channel because I was looking for Asian reviews on this palette. I really like your delivery and then I found out you're friends with Hannah (she's my favorite), that make sense why I'm instantly drawn to you!

[@chaosofthestars]

you and Hannah are my fave to watch at the moment! so excited about this collab 💫

[@Bekah_Sun]

This makes me so happy - thank you!

[@BRATTERSTEIN]

My first time watching you. Headed over from Hannah’s video. You are A VISION. My god.

[@Bekah_Sun]

Thank you so much - I'm so glad you're here, welcome!

[@choosebetter]

Would you consider making a ranking video of the PM palettes? Or share your thoughts around pros and cons of each one? I’m looking to make my first purchase now that there are 10 but it’s overwhelming to choose, whether going for a work horse everyday palette or a special, creatively inspiring one. Thanks! ❤

[@nailinthefashion]

You know your taste best tho. Would you get a lot of use out of a very luxurious everyday palette? I take mine to work and can be quite dramatic with my looks so I never worry about the shine being too much. If it would be for you, then maybe one with your favourite color in it for more casual settings is fun too. I'll pop the VR shades all over the lids, or as a browbone highlight, to make the lashline or inner corners pop. Also consider them as highlighters, and the mattes or satins as blush or bronzer. I've has mine for like 3 or 4 years now and I keep good care of them, occasionally wiping the pans and spritzing them with rubbing alcohol. They're a great investment, and imo, you can't go wrong if you see a color story that speaks to you.

[@choosebetter]

@@nailinthefashion thanks for sharing! I do get that a lot comes down to personal preference. I just find the selection overwhelming especially because the colors can look so different on different skin tones. I happen to have a similar skin tone to Bekah.

[@nailinthefashion]

@@choosebetter most of her palettes lean warm and rosey except for Subliminal which is very cool, and Midnight Sun which is neutral. What's your favourite color in general? Do you have maybe a staple cheek product that could guide your choice? I usually wear a bright red clownish cheek so I mostly just avoid blue and going full Bozo. I'm golden olive so I love wearing golds and olives the most, with pink and violet right after. I get a lot of use out of Midnight Sun as a work horse and consider it my true nudes for work. I use Sublime or Divine Rose 2 as more poppy moments. Bronze Seduction leans more peachy/bright on me because of the olive in my skin but you might find it quite suitable as well. My personal advice would be to wait for a deep sale, like 30%, be spontaneous and just order the one you think you'd wear the most. Watch some Alicia Archer videos for more context and just enjoy the ride 👍🏾

[@c.j.minster4292]

Agree with nail in the fashion. Alicia Archer convinced me to get Midnight Sun when I thought PMG was crazy expensive…. And um, now I own 9 of the 10 palettes. Honestly, I very rarely wear the special shades and love the artistry of the other shades. Plus, I hate how much fall out is in the baked shades. Also (and also because of Alicia), I’d get Viseart on sale from their site (when they have a deep discount sale). I also think there’s a definite difference between the quality in a holiday mega palette and a Mothership or a quad.

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'd love to do a ranking video! I've never done one so that sounds really fun. I can say that there are two palettes that I think are the most versatile. Mothership I if you like cool/neutrals, and Mothership V if you like warm/neutrals. Both create everyday looks as well as more glam/creative looks.

[@nailinthefashion]

Do you have any of the quads? I wish she'd do another one akin Iconic Illumination or an olive themed one. The baked shades are where it's at in my opinion, so unless there's a green color story in the future I'm done buying Motherships. Sublime, Divine Rose 2 and Midnight Sun are my top 3. A ranking video would be really fun 💖✨️

[@Bekah_Sun]

I have Ritualistic Rose and Interstellar Icon. I'd really love to see her do more quads with all special shades, like Ritualistic Rose. Definitely considering doing a ranking video!

[@nailinthefashion]

@@Bekah_Sun those suit you so well haha. Here's hoping she takes the feedback to heart! Other than the motherships they're my favourite pieces of makeup 🥲

[@nancyquixotic2422]

New subscriber coming from Hannah's! You both did a great review and despite its flaws, I still want this palette. I think I'll wait for a large sale. I use my Pat palettes as face palettes and can see myself using this one like that as well. They make beautiful, smooth blushes and highlighters

[@zusamy20]

Same to everything you said n.n

[@Bekah_Sun]

I think a sale would be a great time to dip your toes in to this palette! It's much easier to digest when the price point is lower. I think her sale of up to 30% off is still on right now actually.

[@kellywolfe5930]

The palettes do look beautiful I would definitely keep the cover art 💙💛❤💚💜

[@terrilabeth]

New to you and subscribed. I came over from Hannah. I have enjoyed your review Bekah and your in-depth analysis. Thank you! 💗

[@Bekah_Sun]

Thank you and welcome, so glad you're here!

[@beckyc.5743]

Thank you Bekah. I always enjoy your thoughtful reviews.

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'm so glad you enjoyed!

[@laurenkinnear5141]

so thankful for thorough reviews like yours and hannah's! well done!

[@charmedbymeghan]

Oh that makes me sad to think that Pat Mcgrath may not make any of the more interesting color stories that the first Motherships were. I realllllly hope she goes back to her roots

[@Bekah_Sun]

I really hope so too!

[@DungNguyen-ti9dk]

Your eye look always captures my attention. I learnt a lot of useful tips because we have similar eye shape. Thank you 🥰

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'm so happy to hear that!

[@nidiadoherty5405]

Great review. I’m a collector, so I’ll probably pick this up during one of Pat’s sales, but I’m in no hurry. I’m most intrigued by the platinum dusk and vr sextacy shades, but I have some possible dupes in my collection that might give me that ‘oil spill’ look you and Hannah have me craving!

[@Bekah_Sun]

as a fellow collector, i hear you!

[@sleepychamaeleon]

I enjoyed your review. I see what you mean about the formulas being different and colours slightly different to other motherships. But really, would anyone notice the difference between say, this bronze and rosey brown, and that bronze and rosey brown, on the eyelid?

[@danielletaylor1501]

Hi Bekah, new to your channel and new to PMG. Would love to see a ranking of your Mothership palettes in the future!

[@Bekah_Sun]

Ranking video is definitely on my list to film! And yay, welcome!

[@goodnessgracious2325]

Can you do a video showing the best way to showcase the special shades of Pat Mcgrath palettes? I agree we all bought them for that and I want to get my money's worth by using it in every look I do with the palette. I have trouble with fallout even with glitter glue and a mixing medium though. So some tips on that would be a plus.

[@monishabathija18]

Can you please share your fav PMG palette? Great review 🙂

[@kellywolfe5930]

Thank you for your videos 👍👍you're right Pat McGrath has been on my wants list for a long time now because I want to try those special shades an experience one of her palettes. I do think she has way too much gold in her palettes at least have a white gold in there every palette I look at I feel like I see two to three different kinds of golds and to justify even thinking of saving up for something that cost so much I'd have to want to use every shade in the palette or want to at some point💙💛❤💚💜

[@jessicagoodman7023]

Loved this video and the versatility of the palette. Thanks for showing a variety of looks. I don’t own any of these but you made me want this one.

[@Bekah_Sun]

I'm so glad you found it helpful!

[@beautyrevisited7857]

Yes! A mustard Pat shade!

[@Bekah_Sun]

we NEED

[@Texasgirl4ever23]

It's my favorite one lol. I only have 5 or 6 motherships though.

[@dakotastarfesi6245]

I concur with the hope to see more greens in this launch. She missed an opportunity to seize consumer dollars by not jumping on the green trend. Rosey eyeshadows have been overdone.

[@BeautyByAge]

Your skin looks fantastic. Can we get a tutorial on how you did that?

[@Bekah_Sun]

Thank you so much! I kept it really simple with Dior Backstage Foundation in 2WO and Charlotte Tilbury Flawless filter in 4, a little translucent powder around the t-zone. I used the skin prep and application techniques I share in this video kzbin.info/www/bejne/q17JpYOrnL2aa5Y

[@AroxTheMutilator]

I think Pat should use the non-baked special formula to replace metallics and the special shades should remain baked. But maybe that’s just me.

[@yanah.965]

As with any artist, makeup artist, Pat McGrath can create whatever she wants to- it’s her art and her company. If she likes and wants the bulk of her Mothership palettes to revolve around the rosy based shades over, and over and over again, I guess that’s her artistic contribution and vision. However at this point she’s just giving her loyal palette buying customer- who for 5 freaking years have been asking for less “Variations-On-The-Theme-Of-Rosy”the big double barrel finger. I stopped buying from the brand entirely. McGrath’s message to her customers is received loud and clear. I’m done romanticizing the brand and the woman.

[@Mdwdeanna]

Have you looked into getting the isamaya palette?

[@Bekah_Sun]

I've had it living in my shopping cart for week! For some reason I can't seem to pull the trigger on it - probably because I don't gravitate toward large palettes as much these days. Still considering it though!

[@xoxjelloxox]

Can you share your skincare routine? Do you use any preventative measures like Botox? Just subscribed

[@Utriedit215]

I think that when Pat made this palette she had darker brown skin people in mind this palette is fabulous on brown skin everything can’t be about y’all🤷🏽‍♀️

[@Bekah_Sun]

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts and I agree with you - I think this palette is beautiful on brown skin and deeper skin tones. It's a gorgeous palette overall and I'm a huge fan of Pat McGrath. My one real wish for this palette was that I missed her glittery special shades. I do try to keep the full spectrum of skin tones in mind in my reviews and across my content, especially deeper skin tones. But I recognize that I'm limited by my own embodied experience, of course, and there's always room for reflection on how to be more inclusive. I'll keep your comment in mind.

[@redolentkate]

♥

[@Marian304]

I think these need to come in smaller sizes. It’s too much eye shadow especially if Pat keeping up with new ones so often

[@Bekah_Sun]

i hear you!

[@cindicleee]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@caliinthevalley24681]

I think all the bad reviews are only coming from people who already own all of the Pat Mcgrath palettes.