What Happened to Xiaolin Chronicles? Showdown’s WEIRD Sequel

[@Colby2D]

2:43 - 3:13 the voice actor is Jason Marsden NOT James Marsden. Jason is probably most know for voicing max in A Goofy Movie, sorry it was hot and I was dumb lol. Check out my other Xiaolin Showdown videos here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2G5d5euYqiiZ6csi=HYS_PaRmkPxoseii Like and subscribe so you can stay up to date with my new videos, and number go up make my brain happy.

[@shadow759]

Still a really funny mistake. XD

[@MyselfandComics]

I was about to correct myself if I didn’t see do it already one 🤣.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I can't believe they got Cyclops himself lol

[@terraventusaqua123]

I think we’ve all made that mistake at least once. At least, I’ve made that mistake. I mean, who knew “J. Marsden” was such a common first initial last name combo.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@terraventusaqua123 I used to think they were brothers

[@JennyBlaze253]

Honestly, what annoyed me most about this show wasn't the CGI, or the fact nothing really happens... It's more the fact that there's a severe lack of continuity from the previous show. Like, wasn't Wuya in human form? Isn't Raimundo leader of the team now? Like, this annoyed me so much that I never gave the show any chance.

[@natbatlightwood5288]

Apparently the changes (including names of Shen Gong Wu, and Dojo's colours) was because of a copyright thing. Apparently while the creator could still make the new show Warner Bros owned the names. So thats why they had to change names and even in Wuya's case why she's a ghost and how she was imprisoned by Dashi.

[@firerose4495]

I feel your pain too, cause that's the reason I hated the show too, and I still regret watching it too.

[@Colby2D]

I like alternate dimensions and OVAs and stuff, but I feel like I wasn’t as disappointed because I somehow didn’t know of Chronicles until it was already out. The lack of continuity episode to episode really bothers me more, but both ways make sense

[@Lolbitdrangonmaster]

​@Colby2D The alternate reality angle makes scenes, and I think it makes the most sense

[@waynehodges4913]

My disappointment was that there was no real ways to use the shen gon wu creatively in chronicles enough except the Honey Badger because that one speaks for itself.

[@Omnislash7]

To this day it still boggles my mind that they literally invented Omi with green glasses to add to the team instead of just bringing in Jermaine, who had multiple points of buildup in the previous series

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Maybe Jermaine was off limits...?

[@electrobob992]

Yeah.. Honestly if the respected the original, he should have been the betrayer. So obvious with Chase's original OMI obsession

[@Pandor18]

Heck, I would have prefer JacK

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

@@Pandor18 Jack we know Objectively they could use, because they did!

[@Pandor18]

@@youtubeuniversity3638 I miss Good Jack, but really he was there to get use but they just went with Omi 0.9

[@Bluemooque]

They brought in Ping Pong just to sideline Clay and Kimiko even more smh

[@Colby2D]

Raimundo didn’t even get a showdown but at least he was heavily involved in the original show. If you include chronicles, clay is actually the most neglected character in all likelihood lol

[@MidnightLucario1]

I will forever stand that Jermaine should've been the dragon of wood, not this Omi rerun

[@trevorweisberg8470]

Agreed, or at least make the new character literally something other than just...Omi. Again.

[@AnAverageGoblin]

Omi But Possibly Racist This Time is cursed.

[@TimeMakerMan]

Hated that freak

[@PhoenixEnforcer101]

Real missed opportunity

[@RedDragonForce2]

@@MidnightLucario1 Jermaine should be Dragon of Lightning/Thunder.

[@grungekitty77]

I quit watching Chronicles almost as soon as I started. The lack of continuity from Showdown was a major turn off (I wanted to see Raimundo as leader!) and then the gross out humor just got too be too much. I adored Showdown, but I refuse to acknowledge Chronicles.

[@Colby2D]

The video took me much longer to make then I anticipated because watching it was very difficult, if I wasn’t paying attention and writing notes the whole time I was pretty lost at points

[@firedemon43]

I Tried i think i got though 4 episodes and i loved the orginal

[@A88mph]

Goes to show that, sometimes, standards and practices actually DO have a point. Sometimes.

[@98sparkz]

@@Colby2D The show tries to act like a continuity to the original but it changed so many things it boggles my mind and is hard to follow then the end of the series is them flat out randomly saying Omi is related to Chase SOMEHOW.... And never explain why lmao.

[@shadowclaw7210]

Tomoko episode feels like some amateur fanfic. -Relative of main cast we never heard of out nowhere -Have some super important work like being spy -Manages swindle a once genius main bad guy -For some reason she has dinosaur pet Lot characters getting family members we never heard of Kimiko sister, Clay brother (wtf happened to his sis?) and Ping-Pong (even if it wasn’t confirmed. Also out of all characters we never see Raimundo family members, whose family members were often mentioned in Showdown (I think they were).

[@Colby2D]

Yeah bringing a character out of nowhere usually feels cheap, but should focus more on the development of the main character, and Kimiko didn’t really have any development here

[@shadowclaw7210]

@@Colby2D its just Kimiko felt like an only child. Like all she had her dad.

[@AeronSampson]

Ah yes Chronicles. The sequel I knew so little about that I genuinely thought Omi started wearing glasses for a while.

[@Colby2D]

I can totally see that, I always wondered if anyone thought this!

[@Nonjola]

I always liked Chase's dragon from in the first show, looked like a badass iguana. Now he looks like a crocodile with hair.

[@thomastakesatollforthedark2231]

I prefer his chronicles look to be honest. It looks so much more bestial and evil without being over detailed

[@AyameSohma1993]

Chase Young was NOT voiced by James Marsden. He's voiced by Jason Marsden. Also, before anyone asks, no, they're not related. Just the same last name.

[@bluehidra29]

Honestly, they need to have a Xiaolin Showdown to determine which one has to change their name. They're too close in sound and so far in blood, it must be done.

[@brandonlyon730]

I had a similar confusion once before between Hayao Miyazaki of Studio Ghibli fame and Hidetaka Miyazaki of Dark Souls fame.

[@Colby2D]

Wow, I can officially say Xiaolin chronicles rotted my brain because I have no idea how I misread and researched down that path lol. Thank you for noticing this

[@Colby2D]

I always think of Hayao when people say Miyazaki but 75% of the time nowadays it’s in relation to dark souls

[@Xylospring]

​@@Colby2DNow there are 3 Miyazaki for me to remember. Ghibli, Dark Souls, and that other one

[@deviantgazer4626]

I remember when this first came out everyone got excited. But then, the series continued. And after a certain point, fans of Xiaolin Showdown just started pretending that it didn't exist

[@Eddman368]

The older I get the more I realize how goated my childhood was, Digimon, Roughnecks, Teen Titans, Avatar, TMNT 2003/1987, Randy Cunningham, Batman TAS/Beyond, Static, Xaolin Showdown, Transformers Beast Wars, Jackie Chan, and this channel has proven to me It wasn't just nostalgia, literally spent my weekend binging the TMNT 1987 Marathon they have on Amazon Prime Video and I still enjoy the heck out of it. Despite a lot of shows being made to sell toys back then, they had actual heart and care put into them, the only things kids get these days is slop remake/reboots like Chronicles or Teen Titans GO that wear the skins of the shows we used to love, like some kind of uncanny skinwalker alternate. It shares the resemblance at a glance, but once you look closer you start noticing the uncanny differences.

[@Colby2D]

For me I don’t mind the slightly uncanny differences between reboots and the original shows, but I definitely prefer the writing and structure of the late 90s, felt like there was really just lightning in a bottle with what the creators could do to lead their shows, not the networks and corporations

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

We just had better stuff back in the 90's and early 00's, nostalgia be damned.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Don't let anyone convince you it's just nostalgia. This content was just good quality.

[@smilinmadman]

I was so happy when i found out that it was continuing. But the first episode when they changed the Orb of Tornami's name, i was pissed

[@Colby2D]

I definitely have gaslighted the names of several shen gong wu because of this like monkey spear / monkey staff

[@EnlightenedLazor]

To be fair, they had to due to licensing.

[@Smith-fg1qb]

For the longest time I taught it was supposed to be called the orb of TSUNAMI, not TORNAMI

[@smilinmadman]

@@Smith-fg1qb Fucking same lmao

[@brandonvortex995]

im convinced that Xiaolin Chronicles take place on alternative universe

[@Colby2D]

I think it splinters off a timeline after season 1 (or 2?)

[@herretik2287]

I remember being so confused as a child when this appeared on TV.

[@Colby2D]

I always felt like people could see Ping Pong and not even know there was a sequel

[@ThePigKnight]

Shaolin Chronicles had big “I have a project due tomorrow so I am going to copy Wikipedia and change names” energy. And Ping Pong was literally just a more annoying early s1 Omi. Why?

[@Colby2D]

I just can’t stand ping pongs voice, it’s grating

[@RedDragonForce2]

@@Colby2D Tara Strong is such a champ. It’s too bad not all of her characters are good.

[@frankspick7544]

honestly i hated that they revealed that chase and omi were related. Not that the idea was bad. But that they never did anything with it. Like this detail could have humanized chase and made his past actions be looked into a different light. Like was the reason why he was so after omi being on his side had nothing to with some sort chosen one thing or anything evil. Just a part of him wanting his family back in some way.

[@Colby2D]

Yeah the execution of it told me it didn’t matter and that I was dumb for caring about it lol, like clearly it’s inconsequential for them to be related. Chase also builds ping pong up to be this pure ball of potential but what made chase cool was he would have these private conversations with Omi in showdown and they’d learn they’re not too different, here he just whispers in Omi’s ear and puts ping pong in a cage

[@noblesseoblige319]

Not even pepperidge farm remembers chronicles

[@somebodyrandom27]

I feel that using CGI for the showdowns was a major double-edged sword. On one hand, it made them easier and cheaper to animate. On the other hand, it meant that some showdown settings got reused and only characters with 3D models could take part in showdowns. I feel like that takes away some of the show's appeal. Seeing minor villains or one-off characters get involved in showdowns was a really fun aspect of the original show. Now that I think about it, the CGI might also be behind why Ping Pong is just Omi with glasses. It was easy to modify Omi's model to make one for him.

[@Colby2D]

That’s a really interesting point, like Omi and ping pong probably have the same model, clay and his brother had the same model, master fung was a sparkle lol

[@kurokinari9721]

I was groaning about Ping Pong getting plot armor for shining in the talent show until he began singing. I wasn't familiar with his game.

[@Colby2D]

Right? I didn’t know he could slide like that, all is forgiven

[@aname3941]

fun fact. the five chinse elements are water, fire, air, earth, and metal/wood. thats why people were doing the jack as meatal, and why thats mostly imposible after ping joined

[@Jade_Bunbun]

actually not impossible, the chinese elements (wuxing) are fire, water, earth, metal, and wood with air not being a part of it at all. that said, probably couldnt have him join the team due to warner brothers shenanigans or something

[@flowerheart2054]

Isn't it Water, Fire, Earth, Metal and Wood? Like I don't remember Air being one of elements

[@velvi8359]

@@flowerheart2054earth, wind, fire, and air are elements based on the Greek elements, while water, fire, earth, wood, and metal are based on the Chinese elements, aka the Wuxing. Xiaolin Chronicles just kind of awkwardly meshed them together.

[@flowerheart2054]

@@velvi8359 yep, as i thought

[@mechajay3358]

Chronicles always felt more like a Reboot disguised as a Continuation to Showdown. The designs of the characters look a bit too different, all the previous voices for the characters have been replaced except for Omi's that just feels jarring, they added in a younger character (Ping-Pong) to appeal to a younger crowd, changing the name of the _Shen Gong Wu_ to just "Wu" and overall it lack much continuity from the OG series. Its pretty clear why intrest in this show dropped up fast.

[@LCSteeler16]

As much as I loved Xiaolin Showdown, I couldn’t get behind the drastic changes Chronicles made, it’s unfortunate because I look fondly on Showdown but Chronicles seems like a blur

[@Colby2D]

The changes were definitely jarring, not my biggest issue, but when everything else is going wrong it can definitely be the final straw

[@Whatsdogpee]

38:26 min in so dont know if it’s mentioned later but-I heard that the major issue was that this was made in Canada (where Christy Hui was) and the new Canadian laws led to a myriad of changes including VA. Like, the law required people to have Canadian citizenship which only Tara Strong had, hence only her being retained. Also, the humor was geared more towards Canadian humor which apparently was more body horror/gross out, hence why Dojo started having rashes or other skin disorders for other characters.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

That actually explains a lot.

[@shinkaiatsuya950]

I think from one season to another that had the biggest change would maybe be American Dragon or George of the Jungle. Chase Young was played by Cyclops and guy from Hop, easter bunny movie.

[@Colby2D]

I really forgot about the change of George of the Jungle. I feel like I really liked that show and I know if I go back it’ll probably be bad and I’ll be embarrassed I used to like it. But I also trust my taste wouldn’t change and I should trust my gut lol

[@Dave102693]

Or Johnny Test

[@haro_yemon]

Chase really said "if god can make a woman from a mans rib, then sk can I "

[@Colby2D]

I could see chase being a bit more of an evangelical villain, they seem to portray him like that a little bit with his creations and honor i feel

[@JammyJam5588]

I find it really funny how Ping Pong is considered THE THING of Chronicles but his involvement dwindled into nothing like not even halfway? You barely spoke of him after the billards lmao. WHY DOES HE EXIST. SHADOW SHOULDA BEEN THE 5th WARRIOR OR JUST JACK. Or screw it both?? It coulda been Shadow at first but when she abandons them its clear Jack has finally turned or something idk. Point is, screw Pingpong.

[@Colby2D]

Honestly having ping pong jack and shadow join the crew and we just have a big squad traveling around like one piece would have been kinda sick lol

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

7:21 Imagine if Shadow/Willow was a triple agent and we got a later on twist that EVERYTHING we had seen was so the Xaiolin Warriors could keep a close eye on Chase Young.

[@Colby2D]

I feel like that may have been an original path for her, they kinda gave tomoko the double cross, willow kinda reminds me of terra from teen titans

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

@@Colby2D Always fun to imagine how a not so good work coulda been better just by using the existing pieces better.

[@digitaltailsmon4096]

Honestly ideas from this season are not the worst for a new season. Having Shadow as the fifth member who pursues her arc as a villain turned maybe hero through getting out of the abusive relationship Chase has her in would be interesting. Also cause her element is always fascinating in fiction when you try to do good with darkness or shadows since they are usually dark or evil powers. Yet they could show the good or at least necessity of such an element. Also the finale giving us lore on other elemental dragons of the past and even the idea that the mystical items of the show are actually items made with the chi of former monks is interesting. It explains where this magic comes from and how Daishi made them yet also gives more understanding to the groups own personal weapons later in season 3. As like the first step in that making of idea. It's just this show is so horribly executed on a story perspective that they never could do that. Though since you watched Code Lyoko maybe once you finish you can do its terrible continuation and talk about which is worse. (My moneys on Evolution but that's just me :)

[@Colby2D]

I’m really excited to watch evolutions, My next 2 videos are code lyoko and mucha lucha’s second seasons, but I love watching through stuff in part so I can finally properly see the weird spin offs

[@digitaltailsmon4096]

@@Colby2D That's fair! I am just glad to hear the Code Lyoko marathon is continuing. I was a bit worried due to how much longer each seasons compared to other shows you reviewed.

[@DmGrimm]

Yea before I knew it got a spinoff, I thought i missed a episode of showdown where Omi actually got some style due to a shingonwo or some magic curse.

[@Colby2D]

I always think of how many people must have thought the glasses were just a shen gong wu

[@sandspada]

It's crazy how they went through the whole show without giving Raymundo a single Xiaolin Showdown

[@Colby2D]

I know he really went from arguably the most involved character to a background character just there to correct omi’s sayings

[@drackestalentorgen166]

I loved Shaolin Showdwn...and as a kid i didnt know this was a sequel show u thought it was a really bad 4rth season...it was one if the furst times u droped a show

[@Colby2D]

I believe people feel it’s an alternate timeline starting back after the end of season 1 or 2.

[@HarmfulParkRadio]

I had no idea there was a sequel! I’ll definitely be skipping it, but your video was very well done 💪🏽

[@Colby2D]

Thank you😎

[@andyblargextra]

My brothers and I sat through all of Chronicles and nearly died.

[@Colby2D]

I could only watch this show together with someone in person, it’s way too hard for it to keep my attention otherwise

[@RygasV]

I remember being kinda excited until I saw knockoff Omi. Also I would love to see a video on Loonatics Unleashed.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I was able to find both seasons of Lunatics Unleashed on DVD. Glad i have it in my collection. Always liked the show.

[@RygasV]

@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp glad to know I'm not the only person to know of this show.

[@Colby2D]

Taking an honest look at loonatics unleashed would be really fun because I’ve never seen it I’ve just heard it always in “worst cartoons ever” lists, but I know people that genuinely like it

[@theTrueLinkC]

The new red uniforms annoy me so bad cause it looks like they were using them backwards and i cannot unsee it every time it appears!

[@Colby2D]

I think the fact there isn’t a vertical black stripe makes it look like that, it’s pretty odd

[@bigdoubleu117]

If Omi's Hoedown comment was real... How did that get past censorship!? Lmao

[@Colby2D]

I guess you could say it’s like the farming tool

[@crazyluigi6664]

@@Colby2D Pretty much, yeah. That being said, I found new inspiration for Choicer Voicer now... 12:20 ;)

[@TheReapers520]

I really appreciate the way you go over material. Presenting alternatives ina manner in which you could see it improve but also not presenting only the negatives in the item you are talking about. Shows a good deal of writing skills and maturity to not just only focus on the negatives. Kudos.

[@Colby2D]

Thank you I appreciate it. Animation is really tough so I can understand why things go wrong, I just am not a big fan of how most animation KZbinrs are really angry and rage hairy and wanted to bring a more chill vibe lol

[@razezillian]

I believe in the Theory that this is one of the Alternate timelines with Kimiko being chosen as the leader instead of Raimundo being chosen, as well as the different named shen gong wu. Which I feel is an interesting way to spin and explain the different vibes. And the Idea of Omi and Chase connection being slightly interesting.

[@burner555]

Alternate, not Ultimate Ultimate implies this is the best timeline💀💀💀

[@xavierjohnson2321]

Apparently, Xiaolin Chronicles is a standalone series and isn't a continuation of the OG series.

[@brandonogden2210]

Very true. But Christy Hui stated that there would be a new Xiaolin Project that will continue in a format to that of Showdown.

[@MagillanicaLouM]

@@brandonogden2210 here's hoping she and the crew are successful this time. I can tell she's got a lot of love for this IP still after all this and appreciate and respect her. Just hopefully this next show has better conditions and more quality control

[@brandonogden2210]

@@MagillanicaLouM I really do hope so for Christy. Stay positive for Xiaolin to make a comeback.

[@CornelioLazarus-sg4gx]

To anyone who loves Xiaolin Showdown, get ready for Dec 21, at 11:30 pm, on MeTV Toons, for that may be the day Xiaolin Showdown airs once more on Television.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Aw, that would be the coolest thing ever! I forgot that WB made the show, and they're making MeTV Toons.

[@L.G.127]

Omg that's awesome

[@bigdoubleu117]

Sequels should grow with the audience. They made a "sequel," so it would have been cool if they upped the maturity.

[@Colby2D]

Definitely. I think nowadays there’s a lot bigger of an audience for animation outside of the 5-10 year old demographic because of streaming services and stuff, but that’s always an issue with reboots and sequels, though I feel like I can still enjoy a lot of shows from a slightly more objective point of view even if they skew young, chronicles was felt much more immature than showdown. A young audience really had no means to access chronicles, then go to showdown, so it didn’t help

[@Zetsui51]

I tried to watch this after watching your review of Showdown… and gave up after episode 5. Thanks for summarizing and suffering for us!

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Dang, you made it 5 episodes?

[@sola13colorblue]

Some ideas from Xiaolin Chronicles do have potential for interesting storylines. I think if they played up more of a parental relationship between Chase and Shadow with her vying for his attention but always falling short as he focuses more on Omi could make for good drama and be the main catalyst for her betrayal. At the same time I do like the explanation they give for how Shen Gong Wu are created and would be totally fine if that's the same explanation for them in Xiaolin Showdown.

[@Nova7o9]

This seems so painful, thank you for your sacrifice.

[@Colby2D]

🫡

[@PrincessNine]

No Chase Young was voiced by the OTHER Marsden. JASON, from boy meets world. MAX Goof from the goofy movies, Noel from ff13-2, etc.

[@Colby2D]

Thank you, I don’t know why i thought it was James, I think I’m gonna clip out those 30 seconds, (in case it does get clipped out not to make your comment look random) I appreciate it, I hadn’t really heard of Jason before but he is pretty iconic. My favorite role besides Max he’s done is probably Tino from the Weekenders

[@tevineleven11]

Chase looks like he jumped out of Courage the cowardly dog!

[@Colby2D]

Definitely resembles return the slab’s cgi style lol

[@deazee2288]

I learned about this show not too long ago and it still feels like a fever dream

[@CappyRose]

I would just like to clarify that Chase Young was voiced by Jason Marsden and not James Marsden. They have similar names but are not related. Jaseon Marsden is a pretty great voice actor though who's done a lot of work in TV and Gaming. He's the main voice of Max Goof from the Goofy Cartoons as well as a Goofy Movie. He's also a lot of characters in Skyrim and Fallout New Vegas.

[@mechajay3358]

2:45 A bit of correction here: Chase Young was voice by veteran voice actor "Jason" Marsden, not hollywood actor James Marsden.

[@RedDragonForce2]

I watched MAYBE the first 8 episodes, got bored and moved on. Clay having a Younger Brother shouldn’t surprise me, but it did. So Clay has an Elder Sister, Jessie, and a Younger Brother. How many other siblings are conveniently left out?

[@youtubeuniversity3638]

Younger Sister Older Brothee would complete the set, unless we acknowledge identities outside the binary.

[@Jade_Bunbun]

@@youtubeuniversity3638 cant forget possible twins too, maybe clay has a twin borther and sister, as well as anyone out of the binary

[@fundamental7366]

My least favorite part is how they massacred Chase Young. He went from formidable foe to... magic Jack Spicer.

[@Colby2D]

He’s just so creepy to me in this one, he lost all his swag and became a goofy villain

[@chrisschmidt8454]

oh hay I watched it when it was on Netflix, was confused when I watching thinking it was the original

[@Colby2D]

Lol I can totally see why, just with another Omi

[@petergriscom3431]

I think I watched 4 episodes of this before giving up on it, so kudos for having the patience to watch it all the way through. If you hadn't done this video, I never would've heard David Kaye singing _In The Good Old Summertime_ , which is a real treat for someone who most prominently remembers him as Beast Wars Megatron, so thank you for that. I almost forgot that this got a whole season. IIRC they aired a few episodes as a "sneak preview" and took a hiatus before airing more. My cable company's on-demand service never bothered to put up more than the first few episodes, so I couldn't even keep up out of morbid curiosity. I do remember being very mad at Warner Bros for the copyright shenanigans, it feels like the stuff they had to change took the wind out of their sails as a continuation. I do appreciate that they tried to make light of the changes though, I remember some meta joke in the first episode about Dojo always being yellow. The way that the showdowns have such a loose connection to the plot of the episodes makes me wonder if they animated a bunch of them in one big batch before the scripts were finalized, kinda like Silver Age Superman cover art.

[@Colby2D]

I wasn’t sure if ping pongs rendition was by David Kaye but that would make the most sense! And yeah the shen gong wu copyright was kinda pointless, since it’s not like they were even doing anything with the original

[@UnifiedEntity]

Didnt continue off from where the original ended. - no so good redesigns - The tone shift - THE DAMN CGI

[@maxordman4100]

Certainly not my Xiaolin show! The people who made it obviously didn’t want to completely piss The fans off, but they did. I could barely watch 5 episodes of this series! Thank you however for handling this review with care and respecting the curious fans. For me there will always only be one true Xioalin Showdown!

[@Colby2D]

Agreed. Thanks for watching and your comment, I appreciate it

[@A_Sterling_Rose]

I was ready to like this show when it was first announced, but then I watched the first five minutes, and I never looked back.

[@plains7000]

Thanks for memory refreshing there, I've already seen all of the episodes of Xiaolin Chroniceles on wco stream last year. You've change my perspective on XC and i sorta agrere with a lot of you're dialogue, thoughts and opinions in this video on Chase Young, Raimundo, Ping pong, Jack Spicer and the 26 episodes.

[@Colby2D]

That’s cool to hear, thanks for watching! Hope you stick around for some future stuff too🙂

[@w413857]

Really brought back memories! If I could make a recommendation could make a video on Martin Mystery! For some reason I can’t shake the feeling it’s part of the Totally Spies universe!

[@lazyyog7203]

That's because it is

[@MissJasmine305]

It is! I'm pretty sure there was a cross-over episode at one point, but I could be mistaken.

[@Dave102693]

It is

[@Colby2D]

I definitely want to cover the show soon, might do a season one retrospective sometime in the next couple months

[@qwefg3]

For me it was the three reasons. 1) the lack of plot. 2) The CGI... The fights just feeling random/not connected. 3) The new characters... Willow was a shrug as I still had no idea why they added her. Discount midget... Less interesting especially if we could have had Jack join in as the fifth warrior or have him join in mid way.

[@Colby2D]

The cgi didn’t bother me even though it’s a bit ugly, but it seems like there has to be some connection between the weak plot and cgi for the showdowns, because if half the showdowns were 2D, running and jumping would have no intrigue

[@qwefg3]

@Colby2D sometimes when it comes to digital animation (cgi) being supplied to a show they cut costs by having another studio produce it. This isn't always the case, but it may explain the disconnect between the fights and the show as they gave the other company a list and then the studio welded the CGI fights to the best episodes they thought it would match. As there does feel like a disconnect between the fights and the episodes themselves

[@TheDrewsViewsShow]

Chronicles was...something. When I first saw the intro back in the day, I was hyped to see the gang fighting evil...then the actual show happened...

[@1996squareenix]

i've literally never heard of this and i was a huge xiaolin showdown fan

[@Colby2D]

That’s funny, I also didn’t really hear about it until incidentally coming across it on KZbin

[@agorthagoth-vq3jj]

I used to love Showdown but never cared for Chronicles. I'm surprised it came out in 2013.

[@chriszepeda7873]

14:32 The willow origin feels like an adam and eve reference because god makes eve from one of adams rib

[@Colby2D]

I think they make chase seem like an evangelical villain at random points this season, but yeah it’s just kinda throwing a bunch of random imagery together and didn’t work out too well. I feel like they wanted to go more of a final fantasy villain route with this, but yeah I didn’t even think of that when this happened

[@walpoleandworcester]

I never saw the sequel, but know a ton of the voices were changed and they got Eric Bauza on board.

[@Colby2D]

That’s pretty cool, he’s an interesting voice for Jack, probably the most noticeable change in voice, not in a bad way

[@geonunes10]

The possible reason they took the sheng on Wu names from the scroll was probably due to localization reasons. They would either need to reanimate the frames where the name appears in the target language or break the immersion

[@Colby2D]

Right, I guess they would be the ones responsible for changing the name for each language. It was a nice touch in the original, but they may have been stuck between a French or English audience to prioritize

[@geonunes10]

@@Colby2D Even back then (even back when the original show was on. Xiaolin showdown was the exception), and specially kids shows, American productions would have in mind a worldwide distribution and avoid having writing in it. If we watch the Japanese version of Yu-Gi-Oh, they show the full card layout with text in Japanese explaining the card effect and everything, just like a real world card. But the 4kids version of the animation they just have the picture of the card with attack and defense points for monsters and nothing written under it for spells and traps.

[@Colby2D]

Yeah I think with anime it makes sense because it’s outside the target audience, also I can’t imagine English text being nearly as legible as Japanese text that says so much more with less

[@michaelbachmeier5478]

I think you mixed up James Marsden with Jason Marsden

[@nellewoodruff6337]

Was looking for this comment. I do think Jason would make a good sonic though. His Richie from Static Shock gives me jaleel white vibes

[@Colby2D]

Wow… I’m so stupid. Lol thank you for pointing this out, Chase being the voice of Tino from the Weekenders is still goated

[@Darkstriker133713]

​@@Colby2D and max goof from goofy movie.

[@0b13F4st3]

@@Darkstriker133713 - And Chester McBadbat in the later seasons of "Fairly OddParents" after Frankie Muniz left the role.

[@ericasutton3147]

I was 15 when this series came out. I grew up with the original. Loved the show. Had a crush on Clay🩷 I tried to give Xiaolin Chronicles a chance. But the some of the characters changed too much, the new names for th e Shen gon wu were lame. Dojo was more gross than he was in the original. Like I know he got his rashes and scales shedding whenever there’s a new wu, but in the chronicles series it was WAY more gross than his original. And his weird obsession with Master Fung in the series was a bit much. Thank god for fan artist still making their own OCs and comics to this day. I’d take the original any day than the new one.

[@Colby2D]

That’s really interesting, I’ll have to check out more fan work on future videos that sounds cool

[@ronaldmcdaddy9273]

Like I said in one of your Xiaolin Showdown videos, Raimundo’s character is pretty much assassinated and non-existent besides one episode where he doesn’t even get his own showdown. Like he didn’t even get his own individual showdown here. Raimundo became forgettable to the point where if someone told me you mentioned Master Fung more than him throughout the video I would believe it. And that’s solely because the show didn’t care for him at all. It’s truly a waste of potential for the best character (in my opinion) with the best development in the previous show.

[@Colby2D]

Thanks for following up and checking this one out! I think 90% of his lines in chronicles are just correcting Omi’s slang, which is pretty boring, he isn’t really antagonizing either, kinda like early showdown, he’s just “the stoic cool one”

[@ajsadventures601]

i was so sad that chronicles wasnt anywhere near as good as showdown i remember looking forward to it and being extremely dissapointed

[@Colby2D]

I wasn’t even sad I think I just pretended nothing ever happened,

[@darklordlarc8960]

It's like someone was able to have the foresight of you praise for the art from Code Lyoko and just the OG series, so they combined it. Unfortunately, it seems they didn't see this video

[@AuroraPaintBrush4444]

The Chinese elements, Wood, Fire, Water, Fire and METAL. The Greek elements: Earth, Water, Fire Air. I really thought the "twist element" would be a Metal warrior. With Jack Spicer becoming Good/Neutral But I could not get past episode 2 to find out lol

[@Colby2D]

I never knew metal was an element before hearing people talk about Xiaolin showdown, I feel like avatar made a lot of kids in the west familiar with the elements system

[@AuroraPaintBrush4444]

@Colby2D I had a phase of learning all about the "Chinese zodiac", and I learned through that interest, that not only do the animals have a cycle, but there are Elements attached to them. The book I had, had a list of historical figures, and some celebrities, and had their Zodiac sign, and their element. It was a fun little book. It would be hilarious if that got incorporated into Avatar the Last Airbender. Aang, the Air Bison sign lol

[@CycleMantis]

There's a lot to pick at here but "Chase Young laying an egg" is where I draw the line

[@OnizukaAllMighty]

Single best glow up in Xiaolin Chronicles is the Chase Young redesign, he looks more draconic and cooler than the previous lizard with humongous head and small appendages

[@Colby2D]

I think the hair looks a little goofy but I like his anatomy more for sure

[@OnizukaAllMighty]

@@Colby2D there is no such thing as perfection in Xiaolin Chronicles/showdown 🤣

[@HouseAsura]

One thing that upset me was that the crew seemed a little weaker and the character growth we got kinda disappeared

[@DarkEclipse23]

My friend put it best. They became at best caricatures based solely on their one quirk from the original.

[@Colby2D]

Definitely see the caricature aspect especially with raimundo, like they took him being cool and made him so boring and uninterested

[@DarkEclipse23]

@@Colby2Dit’s mainly because most of his only lines involved correcting Omi’s improper quotes, sayjng a girl is hot, or being dumb.

[@EtherSalad]

I'm glad I found this. This is the Billiam video he never made, that I've known I'd wanted. Gonna have to start following to see more stuff.

[@Colby2D]

Thanks very much🙂

[@mimibspooky7650]

"I don't recall any details of Raimundos childhood or family ever ." are we just going to forget when in the original Xiaolin showdown he said He has 8 brother and sisters on Chinese new year Also whats with the circus backstory ? Rai was established to be a surfer from Brazil he mentioned through the series ! so this must be an alternate universe .

[@Colby2D]

He said he had a big family but we never saw them, but yeah we saw Kimiko and clay’s family, it would’ve been nice to have seen his family or have them involved in a plot in the original

[@DarkEclipse23]

@@Colby2Dexcept the series did everything in its powers to make Raimundo a background character for 99.999% of the time.

[@Titan990]

Xiaolin chronicles is the Temu version of showdown

[@Colby2D]

We got Xiaolin Showdown at home

[@cruz5531]

When this show was being aired I remember being really disappointed with it and wished they just played reruns of the original series

[@Colby2D]

I remember watching the first episode and feeling nothing, no joy, no anger, I just turned it off and forgot about it

[@positiveproductions6699]

I wasn't even aware of this show had a sequel I just thought the original show ended and that was it

[@Colby2D]

Yeah as a big fan of the original, I found it odd I hadn’t heard of chronicles until it was already out.

[@randomreviews4278]

If only you can find Xiaolin Showdown. You can find chronicles easy. Not Showdown i wonder why

[@Colby2D]

Probably because chronicles was on Disney XD, and Disney stuff is easiest to find officially and on streaming

[@scarletnight1077]

It's available on lots of websites and daily motion! Just not to buy sadly

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

You can get each season of the Showdown show on DVD

[@scarletnight1077]

@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp Ah yes! It's probably available in other countries actually

[@nostalgiajunkiespodcast]

Great video! But Xiaolin Showdown had Jason Marsden (Max Goof from Goofy Movie) not James Marsden (Cyclops of X-Men)

[@benjamindenison9034]

The image of Jack with the tiny master Feng is wild.

[@calebpribyl5152]

I remember when I was VERY little! (I was like 4 or 5 in 2005 or 06!) Me and my brother loved xaolin showdown! And then for some reason the show just vanished from existence! And then in 2013 it came back on DISNEY XD! (And then vanished again!) And it reminds me of this show that nick aired for a few months (due to some weird controversy about a scene) and nick pretended that this Tom and Jerry clone never existed!

[@notoriouslego8204]

Imo kids wb did that a lot. I loved JLU but it was pretty much 3 seasons of no plot( it did have some plot they followed) but a lot was just showing off different dc characters

[@Colby2D]

That’s interesting, I never really watched JLU, it always felt a bit too stoic for me as a kid

[@DarkEclipse23]

Well in fairness that was justice league as well. The difference was that JL had multiple part episode stories while JLU was mostly 1 episode tales. But they also had theme. Especially with. Cadmus focused storyline in 2 and everything leading to darkseid in 3.

[@stella4228]

This show was my introduction to the franchise (via Netflix) and i was so confused, but it was easy enough to follow.

[@jacobee._]

I wish i never knew this existed

[@nintendolife25]

Hello Colby2D. I just wanted to say thank you very much for uploading such an in depth review of this sequel….reboot…..following(?) of Xiaolin Showdown. I can tell that it wasn’t easy for you due to clearly lacking interest as you cover more episodes. I never understood what was the point of Ping Pong. As you said, he’s just another Omi.

[@Colby2D]

Thank you for your kind words I appreciate it. I think maybe they set up ping pong as a key to Omi’s backstory and family, but without more show, it’s hard to say if that would be the case. It would be nice if they included hints to this

[@mohamadhalabi2086]

I remember chronicles like a fever dream you not sure you want to remember

[@procow2274]

Nor every showdown was cgi at least 1 was drawn

[@Colby2D]

The one time we saw raimundo they drew him in 2d and made it look cgi half the time, which is so weird to me, like I almost think they didn’t have a model for him and that’s why his only showdown is as a zombie that doesn’t look like him

[@vezokpiraka]

In the Romanian dub of the show, Dojo or Barky in the episode he appears calls the other "tree soup" which makes no goddamn sense and I still use it as an insult. What are you? Some kind of tree soup?

[@Colby2D]

That’s really funny, do you feel Romanian dubs have more whacky jokes or get lost in translation more often?

[@vezokpiraka]

@@Colby2D It really depends. Some dubs are absolute bangers like "Life with Louie" which is beloved by everyone here. Others are just bad or don't work. "Uncle Grandpa" for example is even more cursed. Most of them are serviceable and the actors are top notch. Xialin Showdown had a great dub that made it really easy to watch. Xialin Chronicles had some absurd mistranslations that I have no idea how they got in. The show was pretty good for looking at it high, especially the Good Jack episode. In Romanian he was "Marele Jack" as in Great Jack (or Big Jack idk) and that flowed so well and it was said so often we were dying laughing. One of the best dubs was for Samurai Jack where Aku voice actor was fucking insane. Different than the English dub but absolutely insane none the less. The intro is still referenced in many memes.

[@Colby2D]

@@vezokpiraka I will watch Romanian Aku and get back to you, that’s so cool thanks for sharing

[@brandonlyon730]

@@vezokpiraka Out of curiosity does Romania have any pointless dub vs sub debates?

[@vezokpiraka]

@@brandonlyon730 Not really. With the exception of cartoons which are for kids and need dubbing because kids don't know English at birth, everything else is subbed and in the original language. And even cartoons got dubbed in the last 25 years. Most people will watch everything with subs except some cartoons that remind them of childhood. And mostly everyone agrees the original language is better, with the exception of the truly great ones where the actors put a lot of soul like the afore mentioned "Life with Louie" or "Ed, Edd & Eddy" or "Jack the Terrible pirate". Like you knew when the voice actors did a standout job.

[@zanygamerx]

I actually tried watching this recently, completely forgetting i already did once before. I am incapable of getting past the pilot. You are most diligent for being able to not only watch through it, but to do so multiple times. I find it strange to take a show from when we were kids, slightly age up the characters, then write it for people younger than us. An anime adaptation or at least a version animated by a Japanese studio would go so hard. Imagine a showdown sequel made by someone like studio trigger.

[@Colby2D]

I’d love an anime adaption, even a 60 second short in the trigger style would be so cool

[@finally9902]

Chase's cgi model keeps reminding me of the King Ramse model from that one episode of Courage the Cowardly Dog. Especially when he talks

[@Colby2D]

After recently rewatching that I can totally see that lol, especially with how smooth and untextured they are

[@rga1605]

I never knew this existed or that Xiaolin Showdown had a sequel

[@Scalesthelizardwizard]

I had no idea Chronicles was a thing until your videos got me to look back at Xiaolin Showdown honestly after this video I'm just going to ignore it

[@Kuchito08]

Salvadore's komodo dragon design just reminds me of Dimitri from Sly Cooper 2 for some reason lol

[@Colby2D]

I was thinking of Sly 2 or gex lol

[@newbrowny]

great video. this series was one of my favs as a kid, and mostly because it was on at times it was hard for me to watch. so when i happened to see it on, i watched every episode that it would play because i loved the animation and style, and the characters as well. i had never seen chronicles, but its interesting seeing what they did. even if it was very...not good.

[@Colby2D]

Thanks very much for watching, yeah I kinda had a similar experience with showdown growing up too, I feel like I caught it more when it re-aired on Cartoon Network than late Saturday mornings on kids wb but even then it wasn’t very often. Fortunately people uploaded both to KZbin so I could actually give them proper chances

[@ztsquid3000]

BONUS ROUND !!!FIGHT!!!

[@Kyarudaga_Yoshire]

🤓Barjpgl4 : Hello, my name's Boris Antonio Rolf Jean-Pierre Gaulle Legrand IV that's "B.A.R.JP.G.L.4" All of them: Said it Again, but mostly slow down please? Nevermind, You know What we'll called it you by "Pin-Pon"! 🤓Barjpgl4: "But, but… that's not my na-" Master: "Congratulation Pin-Pon! You're now one of us. Did you said something?" 😎Pin-Pon: Nope nothing of all, I changed my mind and I'm fine with my new nickname Master. Horray/Yay!

[@mattelwood980]

Ping Pong was actually the fuckin worst

[@remixchild]

Guess they never got the memo to never poochie a show

[@Colby2D]

Ping pong really annoyed me, it’s mainly his voice is just so grating